Never seen such a healthy discussion of a movie in the recent past. More than the director, the Producer Sashikanth's take on Films and production amazed me. Wish Tamil Cinema to get more such producers. Ashwin's thoughts on 'Marma Desam - Vidaadhu Karuppu' was nostalgic! Slightly disappointed that my question wasn't asked but totally loved the session
Wow. I'm sad majority of people are too dumb to enjoy this brilliance of an art form. If this was an hollywood movie, Americans would've celebrated ashwin like jordan peele recently
Thanks for bringing in Jordan Peele Did you bring in Jordan Peele because u had a feel of watching "US" while watching "Game Over" ? Even though he makes dark thrillers with certain points for laughter..
This changed my idea about the film. There are so many nuances to it, it's difficult to absorb all of them in one watch. I think this deserves a second viewing.
Here tattoos are metaphor of games life lines..the other girl who was killed was a metaphor for some other player who lost the game of life and since her dead remains was on tapsees tattoo it means tapsee was given the game to play ...on a dream sequence the girl had 3 tattoos and later tapsee also had 3 tattoos just like 3 life lines....wow great genre bending films...the killer's face and motive is not important...he actually didn't kill tattoo girls for any psychological reason..the tattoos are life lines of game on the second half on the film and it's natural that in action games killers will try to kill us irrespective of motive...the narrative of the movie is just like the matrix where the agents trying to kill the players.....this film is for truly educated audiences. Loved it
I believe that the killers are death, depression and other internal demons we all face. Amudha kind of gave in to death in the process of her struggle with her demons which is cancer. The lessons from her suffering coupled with Swapna's own internal strength helps her overcome her demons. So, I believe that it's perfectly alright to not reveal the killers at all. Because it is different for each of us.
This doesn't strike to me as a decoding, Q&A session. It's more like 3 ardent CBSC educated movie buffs talking about an amazing work for 40min. Ashwin more power to you.
Firstly when I saw the movie same questions haunting my self but great explanation for those questions and I'm totally convinced. What a maker's producer, director, actors, background score composure take a bow.
Kudos to the director, he has utilised his skill n creative writing in black and white n screen play, #GameOver type of movie mostly directed in foreign movies where we applause n acknowledge. But in our industry we don't pay attention as same as supra mentioned. This man definitely going to be one of the best creative director if he writes in different perspective in terms of subjective
i took popcorn and nachos and as soon as the second half started, i knew its going to end very quick so i ate quick and just got to finish my snacks... uff close call...
This is amazing! Getting to know the thought process from the makers themselves was fascinating and really interesting. More #askBR with the directors and/or producers please :P
The second half is exactly what happens in a afternoon dream on a weekend for me. Everything i heard, everything that i came across will join hands and act up into a single horror sequence . I like how they brought out the same sense in the movie. The second half was a dream and i deny any other theory. DOT Only wrong decision i see from my perspective is... They should have kept the first scene as the one where she wakes up when maid opens the window. That would have prepared for the psychologically disturbed girl that we have here. When u start off showing her jogging around, i thought she was a normal creative person. Go hard and make it dark next time
Game over is actually a great reference to the game pacman ! In the second half when the killers actually come to her house , they show the pacman on the screen with one player and three villan character in game , then they show the quote dejavu ! So after her first life ie: after one of the villan dies ..in the second Life version , there are three villans again ! What does that mean ? Let me say ..a game has three lives for you but for each life the same number of villans come ! They first have a particular purpose and way of killing but they in the process change according to the character (hero) decisions ! So observe in the second and third lives they first take the mocktails to throw into house !(ie: same way of killing designed to them but on course changes by decision of hero
Sashikanth as a producer added value to the product.This is the way how it works in the west i guess. YNot studios is the new thing you wont have a second thought about going in. I am excited to see what he has in the queue..Congratulations
Rangan sir pacman is not a simple game it's a conspiracy theory...and the map of pacman is a labyrinth and life is like a labyrinth maze where our decisions decide our fate
That gives the perspective of the incident is happening in her head think about it, that's what the flim is about if u come up with a logical Question there will be a different perspective explaining these loopholes
4:46 Hm... Maybe that scene is still Swapna's subjective experience. Whatever they show in the prologue is Swapna's version of the event happened. She got to know through the news that it's been 1 year since a girl has been found dead on the outskirts of Chennai, maybe whatever happened during the prologue was Swapna's version of the actual even made possible by her vivid imagination (remember, she's a videogame designer). It also better explains why the killers were stalking the girl, with the camera. It's Swapna's past influencing her thinking. 23:56 ruclips.net/video/FY_HXK_MOuQ/видео.html 46:43 Ah finally someone agrees!
Although the director and producer justify the context of the film, the sad truth is that the audience isn’t matured enough to understand severe complexity. You cannot blame them for that neither can you blame the team for trying to showcase their skill. But a word of advice would be that they narrate the script to various people before commencement of production. That way they can understand the psychology of the audience better
Don't... If you are planning to watch, it gives you a lot of spoilers... Watch the film and come with the questions in your head and get them answered..!
Game Over. There is catharsis for the lead character but not for the audience. There's no justification for the violence the movie begins with. The film is too subjective.
Watched this film in Netflix today. Definetly missed this one in theatre. Just one thing : As the director rightly mentioned about the subjective narrative of this film and he just wanted the victims emotion to be reflected to us rather than showing us about the motive of the killer and setting a up flashback for Swapna's assault. Before amutha and swapna's assault the killer is having a photo of both the victim and there is a number mentioned with an #hashtag and amutha was 4 and swapna was 10 if i am not wrong, and the killer is having an image of victim in tattoo studio. My doubt is whether the motive of the killer has anything to do with the tattoo studio. As the rest of the 8 people who was killed by the same killer has anything to do the with this studio? we are only shown about the 2 assaults and rest of the killings are only mentioned in news
Vivek Acharya above all the sound design is just like cyberpunk...retro synthwave...something new to Indian cinema...made to cinema hall experience...especially when the killer is showed at the second half
Oh, this shouldn’t be that painful for Taapsee.. Every married man experiences anniversary reactions multiple times more profound.... wouldn’t be much of a discomfort watching this movie... in fact watched this movie with my wife... the movie was a cake walk for me and the jump scares were really funny 😂 ...
Three times cancer battling patient's brutal murder for no reason, just to make audience panic is very cruel pathetic and unresponsible writing :( and why Amutha's spirit didn't helped while Taapsee was sexually abused and videotaped during new year party ???
Its not like the supernatural factor alone that helps Swapna to fight at the end but also the mental strength that she obtains after knowing the story of Amutha which she doesn't know during the time of new year party.
Lol. Ishanth Varma, you dint understand the film I guess. Amudha has survived fighting cancer for three times. The serial killer is reflection of molesters/problematic people for women in society who doesn't know what these women undergo in their life. It's like how much ever inner pains we face and overcome, there are idiots like this in society. Somehow she couldn't survive from the killer. Whereas Swapna who overcomes and fights them back and survives is a closure ending. Amudha , three times cancer survivor being killed by killer is definitely not for empathy. Film never tries to go that way. Also the spirit of Amrutha never helps her directly. In the second half she shows the vision (dream or illusion or whatever), everytime Swapna becomes stronger to fight back, is what it is about. I and definitely most of the audience understand this way. Thank God , you dint ask (not asked, btw) Why amudha spirit dint kill those serial killers? (Like a typical Bollywood Bhoot)
@@sasf8181 as you mentioned ("Somehow she(Amutha) couldn't survive from the killer") is all my question, and that's i quoted irresponsible writing. and i dont need the molesters, swapna fight back,.......explanations which everyone knows.....phew!
@@sasf8181 and i don't question logic or theories in typical bollywood tiger zinda hai or bhoot ... But when you claim or preach that we are making high concept movies, i am going to change Indian cinema these questions are expected i just don't want writers to fool the audience or to dread unnecessary horror to show their pseudo brilliance, as the movie crew talks like IIM sessions.
@@ishanthvmn I think it's very clear. Amudha was alone at home. She can't fight with killer with all those weapons, who comes all of a sudden. And so, she dies. And when her mother comes to Taapsee, she says about the cancer thing and how she was fighter in her life all along, also she says her daughter wants taapse to be strong, I don't see any irresponsible writing here. Taapse fights back because she had the vision. I don't think there is a need to ask much logical questions here as well. There are so many Hollywood films which doesn't give logics (A quiet place is similar kind of film, I had so many questions while watching but that's a film I should not ask, in film like Interstellar also we can ask for logics) Because I feel the two questions you asked why she dint fight / spirit of amudha dint save Amrutha are pure silly questions. Psuedo intellectuals like you may have selective hatred because of some other reasons (may be for taapse or south Indian or something else) which can be seen by your words like 'Psuedo brilliance' & 'IIM talks'. They have made fucking damn film which was applauded by so many audience, which made them to give your so called IIM talks. Watch the director's first film Maya starring Nayantara and then call psuedo brilliance. Enjoy in your own bubble calling others psuedo brilliance. EOD, mr.psuedo intellectual.
Pure brilliance, Sasikanth is a perfect example of how a producer should be..
True very brilliant producer
Two Visionaries whom I know and had the absolute pleasure to work with ! 😊
My hat goes off for you my man! You gave me the most discomfort throughout the movie!!
Ron Yohann ur bgm is the soul of the film..excellent ..
Thalaiva bgm meratita 👍👍👍
Bro your bgm was as powerful as ratchasan's
Was such a great delight to listen to your bgms!!!!
Not revealing the killers was the most brilliant move 👏 gave every viewer a perspective of their own
Anupama Chopra should watch this to understand the movie 😆
True😆😆
Yes 😊
So true now I doubt her ability to judge a movie
@Z may be. But Anupama never mentioned that in her review.
She is just dumb
Never seen such a healthy discussion of a movie in the recent past. More than the director, the Producer Sashikanth's take on Films and production amazed me. Wish Tamil Cinema to get more such producers.
Ashwin's thoughts on 'Marma Desam - Vidaadhu Karuppu' was nostalgic! Slightly disappointed that my question wasn't asked but totally loved the session
Ashwin is best 👍👍...he will reach more heights promising director in kollywood...
Thanks Ashwin saravanan for taking our Tamil cinema to another level. Game over is undoubtedly Hollywood material. ✌️
Agreed!!
Wow. I'm sad majority of people are too dumb to enjoy this brilliance of an art form. If this was an hollywood movie, Americans would've celebrated ashwin like jordan peele recently
Mayyur Sudarsan exactly.
Thanks for bringing in Jordan Peele
Did you bring in Jordan Peele because u had a feel of watching "US" while watching "Game Over" ?
Even though he makes dark thrillers with certain points for laughter..
This changed my idea about the film. There are so many nuances to it, it's difficult to absorb all of them in one watch. I think this deserves a second viewing.
Here tattoos are metaphor of games life lines..the other girl who was killed was a metaphor for some other player who lost the game of life and since her dead remains was on tapsees tattoo it means tapsee was given the game to play ...on a dream sequence the girl had 3 tattoos and later tapsee also had 3 tattoos just like 3 life lines....wow great genre bending films...the killer's face and motive is not important...he actually didn't kill tattoo girls for any psychological reason..the tattoos are life lines of game on the second half on the film and it's natural that in action games killers will try to kill us irrespective of motive...the narrative of the movie is just like the matrix where the agents trying to kill the players.....this film is for truly educated audiences. Loved it
Brilliant conversation. I think this is the best decoding that had been done for Tamil movies.
Vidathu karupu 👌 nostalgic. Hearing it after very long time. Very talented guy ashwin saravanan
We all have anniversary reactions closer to our birthdays. Mentally and physically we are more active.
I love how he talks about vidadhu karuppu..
One of the best series of the 90s era..
Shanmugapriya S I'd like to watch this show. Do you happen to know how I can get it?
@@srilakshmir5927 they have now released it in RUclips. Just search for it, you will get the episodes
Shanmugapriya S thanks:)
I believe that the killers are death, depression and other internal demons we all face. Amudha kind of gave in to death in the process of her struggle with her demons which is cancer. The lessons from her suffering coupled with Swapna's own internal strength helps her overcome her demons. So, I believe that it's perfectly alright to not reveal the killers at all. Because it is different for each of us.
What about news flashing, 😂 everything a dream
That's a good theory.. But I wanna talk about your username dude..😁
what about her mother carrying Ashes???
3 times cancer battling patient's brutal murder for no reason just to make audience panic is very cruel and unresponsible writing:((
This doesn't strike to me as a decoding, Q&A session. It's more like 3 ardent CBSC educated movie buffs talking about an amazing work for 40min. Ashwin more power to you.
CBSE education! .my ass.
another interesting detail is that, the name swapna means dream
One of the best step by step breakdown/review of this movie!
Hats off to Ashwin and Sashikanth!
Firstly when I saw the movie same questions haunting my self but great explanation for those questions and I'm totally convinced. What a maker's producer, director, actors, background score composure take a bow.
Wow ... The philosophical angle is brilliant ... Multiple "points of view (you)" exist simultaneously and continues to stay relevant ... 🧡🙏🏼👍
Kudos to the director, he has utilised his skill n creative writing in black and white n screen play, #GameOver type of movie mostly directed in foreign movies where we applause n acknowledge. But in our industry we don't pay attention as same as supra mentioned.
This man definitely going to be one of the best creative director if he writes in different perspective in terms of subjective
i took popcorn and nachos and as soon as the second half started, i knew its going to end very quick so i ate quick and just got to finish my snacks... uff close call...
Am i the Only one who sees Shasikanth and got reminded about his Cameo in Tamizh Padam 2 😂😂 *En Producer ku paavam car eh ila da*
Lol Felt for the security guy Anwar 3 times pure death no espcape !!!!!!!!
See that, 1st chance all 3 died 2nd chance 2 died 3rd chance 1 died
@@kasikasi9072 lol second chance had more death
Swapna , kalama , Anwar Anna , 2 policemen and a psychokiller
@@prashannabalakrishnan8453 yeah. In the hands of killer itself
@@kasikasi9072 pardon ?
This is amazing! Getting to know the thought process from the makers themselves was fascinating and really interesting. More #askBR with the directors and/or producers please :P
Well BR is smiling when his thoughts are close to director's
Is it only me or does the producer look a lot like Joe Russo (Russo Brothers - Endgame)?
The second half is exactly what happens in a afternoon dream on a weekend for me. Everything i heard, everything that i came across will join hands and act up into a single horror sequence . I like how they brought out the same sense in the movie.
The second half was a dream and i deny any other theory. DOT
Only wrong decision i see from my perspective is... They should have kept the first scene as the one where she wakes up when maid opens the window. That would have prepared for the psychologically disturbed girl that we have here.
When u start off showing her jogging around, i thought she was a normal creative person. Go hard and make it dark next time
Words of the day: objective and subjective😅😅
And perspective 😂
Game over is actually a great reference to the game pacman ! In the second half when the killers actually come to her house , they show the pacman on the screen with one player and three villan character in game , then they show the quote dejavu ! So after her first life ie: after one of the villan dies ..in the second Life version , there are three villans again ! What does that mean ? Let me say ..a game has three lives for you but for each life the same number of villans come ! They first have a particular purpose and way of killing but they in the process change according to the character (hero) decisions ! So observe in the second and third lives they first take the mocktails to throw into house !(ie: same way of killing designed to them but on course changes by decision of hero
Sashikanth as a producer added value to the product.This is the way how it works in the west i guess. YNot studios is the new thing you wont have a second thought about going in. I am excited to see what he has in the queue..Congratulations
It feels great to see all my understanding s about the movie is accurate 😍 thanks for the session BR
This is the film discussion we want
How did Producer Sashikanth grow his hair back?
This is amazing BR! It cleared off a lot of cloud in my head and now I can say it's a really good film.
This how filmmakers should be!!!!!
Really liked this interview. Very helpful screenwriting tips.
U killed man ...u made my whole night think of the film
Of all the movies i have watched this is the most intelligent movie i have ever watched
8:08 "Vidathu Karuppu " Reference by Ashwin Saravanan.
Waiting for this video..
Rangan sir pacman is not a simple game it's a conspiracy theory...and the map of pacman is a labyrinth and life is like a labyrinth maze where our decisions decide our fate
When Kala Ma shuts all the windows and door in Swapna's room(During Swapna's Second Life), where did all the blazing molotovs come from?
That gives the perspective of the incident is happening in her head think about it, that's what the flim is about if u come up with a logical
Question there will be a different perspective explaining these loopholes
We need new dynamic,admire their work.
Is their any chance to release iravaakaalam to release in ott ash
Masterpiece
Please make part 2 happen!!
4:46 Hm...
Maybe that scene is still Swapna's subjective experience. Whatever they show in the prologue is Swapna's version of the event happened. She got to know through the news that it's been 1 year since a girl has been found dead on the outskirts of Chennai, maybe whatever happened during the prologue was Swapna's version of the actual even made possible by her vivid imagination (remember, she's a videogame designer). It also better explains why the killers were stalking the girl, with the camera. It's Swapna's past influencing her thinking.
23:56 ruclips.net/video/FY_HXK_MOuQ/видео.html
46:43 Ah finally someone agrees!
Uffff brilliant 🔥 just brilliant thinking ❤🤗
We needed this thank u
brilliant movie. loved it.
Although the director and producer justify the context of the film, the sad truth is that the audience isn’t matured enough to understand severe complexity. You cannot blame them for that neither can you blame the team for trying to showcase their skill. But a word of advice would be that they narrate the script to various people before commencement of production. That way they can understand the psychology of the audience better
Don't blame the audience... if the audience don't lyk the film then the film is trash
Why no questions about the killer's characterisation only through subtle actions?
I haven't watched the movie yet. Can I watch the show?
Kamal Kolandai Don't...
Don't
Don't... If you are planning to watch, it gives you a lot of spoilers... Watch the film and come with the questions in your head and get them answered..!
I wonder what Anupama Chopra has to say now :P
those who played "friday the 13th" game, you can easily understand this whole movie.
Game Over. There is catharsis for the lead character but not for the audience. There's no justification for the violence the movie begins with. The film is too subjective.
Watched this film in Netflix today.
Definetly missed this one in theatre.
Just one thing : As the director rightly mentioned about the subjective narrative of this film and he just wanted the victims emotion to be reflected to us rather than showing us about the motive of the killer and setting a up flashback for Swapna's assault. Before amutha and swapna's assault the killer is having a photo of both the victim and there is a number mentioned with an #hashtag and amutha was 4 and swapna was 10 if i am not wrong, and the killer is having an image of victim in tattoo studio.
My doubt is whether the motive of the killer has anything to do with the tattoo studio. As the rest of the 8 people who was killed by the same killer has anything to do the with this studio? we are only shown about the 2 assaults and rest of the killings are only mentioned in news
Nobody talked about the sound design....
Vivek Acharya yeah....sound design was brilliant...I wish they would release the soundtrack
@@apurbaroy5992 rightly said. We could understand what agony the protagonist was going through thanks to sound design.
Vivek Acharya above all the sound design is just like cyberpunk...retro synthwave...something new to Indian cinema...made to cinema hall experience...especially when the killer is showed at the second half
@@apurbaroy5992 yes something new we got to listen to 😊😊
Of course of you, the tamil language is down going.
Oh, this shouldn’t be that painful for Taapsee.. Every married man experiences anniversary reactions multiple times more profound.... wouldn’t be much of a discomfort watching this movie... in fact watched this movie with my wife... the movie was a cake walk for me and the jump scares were really funny 😂 ...
What if the whole movie is a video game?
No mention of Hollywood movie Happy Death Day(2017) from which has this same core plot?
There are many movies like happy death day...it's not a plot it's just cinematic technique(btw happy death day is a shitty movie )
Three times cancer battling patient's brutal murder for no reason, just to make audience panic is very cruel pathetic and unresponsible writing :(
and why Amutha's spirit didn't helped while Taapsee was sexually abused and videotaped during new year party ???
Its not like the supernatural factor alone that helps Swapna to fight at the end but also the mental strength that she obtains after knowing the story of Amutha which she doesn't know during the time of new year party.
Lol. Ishanth Varma, you dint understand the film I guess.
Amudha has survived fighting cancer for three times. The serial killer is reflection of molesters/problematic people for women in society who doesn't know what these women undergo in their life. It's like how much ever inner pains we face and overcome, there are idiots like this in society. Somehow she couldn't survive from the killer. Whereas Swapna who overcomes and fights them back and survives is a closure ending. Amudha , three times cancer survivor being killed by killer is definitely not for empathy. Film never tries to go that way.
Also the spirit of Amrutha never helps her directly. In the second half she shows the vision (dream or illusion or whatever), everytime Swapna becomes stronger to fight back, is what it is about. I and definitely most of the audience understand this way. Thank God , you dint ask (not asked, btw) Why amudha spirit dint kill those serial killers? (Like a typical Bollywood Bhoot)
@@sasf8181 as you mentioned ("Somehow she(Amutha) couldn't survive from the killer") is all my question, and that's i quoted irresponsible writing. and i dont need the molesters, swapna fight back,.......explanations which everyone knows.....phew!
@@sasf8181 and i don't question logic or theories in typical bollywood tiger zinda hai or bhoot ... But when you claim or preach that we are making high concept movies, i am going to change Indian cinema these questions are expected i just don't want writers to fool the audience or to dread unnecessary horror to show their pseudo brilliance, as the movie crew talks like IIM sessions.
@@ishanthvmn I think it's very clear. Amudha was alone at home. She can't fight with killer with all those weapons, who comes all of a sudden. And so, she dies. And when her mother comes to Taapsee, she says about the cancer thing and how she was fighter in her life all along, also she says her daughter wants taapse to be strong, I don't see any irresponsible writing here. Taapse fights back because she had the vision.
I don't think there is a need to ask much logical questions here as well. There are so many Hollywood films which doesn't give logics (A quiet place is similar kind of film, I had so many questions while watching but that's a film I should not ask, in film like Interstellar also we can ask for logics) Because I feel the two questions you asked why she dint fight / spirit of amudha dint save Amrutha are pure silly questions. Psuedo intellectuals like you may have selective hatred because of some other reasons (may be for taapse or south Indian or something else) which can be seen by your words like 'Psuedo brilliance' & 'IIM talks'. They have made fucking damn film which was applauded by so many audience, which made them to give your so called IIM talks. Watch the director's first film Maya starring Nayantara and then call psuedo brilliance. Enjoy in your own bubble calling others psuedo brilliance.
EOD, mr.psuedo intellectual.
Film actually flopped big time 😬 so too much complexity is ok if you want to make a box office bomb