Brand New Onan Generator is CRAP ~ Roof Reseal Update From Quartzsite
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Onan makes a great generator if owners would maintain them according to the owners manual. It may have nine hours of use, but how long has it been installed? They must be run monthly once fueled.
A simple decal on the front of the generator telling people that would be helpful.
Here is a silly question: Why not get the generator fixed on warranty? If it is brand new with only 9 hours on it, it should be covered by warranty right?
Novel concept, eh?
You have to find a place to fix it. But most place that will work on them (CamperWorld type places) will tell you there are 14 other vehicles ahead of you in line for repairs/maintenance/service. But don't worry they should be able to get to you in a few months.
Although it does look like there are a couple of cummings service centers in Phoenix. Probably would not hurt to call them to see about warranty service. BUT typically for RV work, they have lots of work backed up, and you might be waiting a long time for them to get to your issue.
This new RV has been nothing but one issue after another.
All RVs have one issue after another. That's just the way RVs are.
every RV has issues
I live in mine full-time in sub zero temps. I know how RVs are. That one is a lemon. They don't break weakly!@@richardowens9061
I'm on my fourth RV in twenty years, very few issues.
Operator errors🤣
When he drinks and watches NASCAR he becomes the Dramatic Fanatic-
But he is one hell of a good meteorologist
I think he became “Dramatic Fanatic” in this video.
LOL, with a string outside, the wind is blowing when it is moving...when it is wet, it is raining,,,
On the bright side, Lake Mead's water level is 6.5 ft higher than the same day last year.
I had problems with my Onan too. In Quartzsite, I found the one guy in the country that was able to fix it. It ran well for years after his repair. An RV repair shop in Brenda gave me his name.
I've been working on my Onan for over 2 years. 2 new carbs, new fuel pump, 3 new spark plugs, I've seen every code in the book. One thing for you to check, my sisters class C had mice that chewed holes in the rubber fuel line just outside the truck tank. Gen would start, run out of fuel sucking air.
Grab fuel can full of fuel, use a 3 or 4 ft piece of 1/4 new fuel line, connect underneath gen at the fuel pump, other end into gas can. Prime until fuel fills float bowel and start. If problem cleared inspect your fuel line back to tank. Also, unplug existing fuel line going into carb, run fuel pump to prime, if strong flow of fuel pump is ok, if it dribbles pump might be bad. Or, do like me, toss the gen and buy a 4,000 watt solar generator with 1,000 watts worth of panels.
Worst thing people can do to a generator, not use it. Especially with our fuel our government insists on mixing with corn. I never have any problems with my toy hauler, I only fill it with corn-free fuel, my class C is the pain in the ass.
You can’t say that they are a garbage company when all their old gens run fine. I just sold one from my old RV that was built in 1976
My 1981 tioga has original Onan 3000 with 280 hours and works every time. I mainly use it for is for the original air conditioner. I think quality now days is the problem with every product.
This is the point I am making. Mine was a 6500 as long as I had gas and oil it started and ran ever time
I hate when people think solar will solve everything. We have solar on this RV and it does good but you said it perfectly.
If the sunshine is not enough you still need a generator.
Safe travels
Nomadic fanatic:
Has a perfectly good rv, buys one of unknown quality, proceeds to make videos of it continually failing. Repeat...
'doesn't do it for the views'
Bigfoot is insulated for year round.
We found our that there a recall on brand new ones. They had to send a tech out to us with special cables to reprogram the board, and tell it what it was.. working like a charm ever sense. It only had 1 hour on it . Took 3 techs and a visit to Cummins in Arizona to figure it out.. the tech actually told us he was training others on this problem .
I don’t understand why he hasn’t contacted Onan about the problem, especially since it is probably still under warranty. I guess it’s just easier to trash a company than to give them a chance to fix the problem.
@@jeffsnodgrass9747views ...that "great" Bigfoot is looking like a lemon the longer he has it.
Wasn’t it a few videos before that he basically implied that the generator was the best feature on the rv?
Have you checked the altitude setting on the Onan? I had a friend up in 6000ft alt that was having issues like that and I adjusted the altitude knob and it ran like butter.
That is a good suggestion - explains the symptoms perfectly.
Had the same issue...
You'd think these two guys would think of that. But, the shop for the dealership I bought from didn't figure that out either for mine. They were gonna sell me a new one, but then I remembered that I'd recorded their tech on the vehicle tour adjusted it... Or misadjusted it. Simple fix after they spent two days with the vehicle. And a problem they caused. LOL 🤦🏻♂️
@@davidwheeler7503 this may have been the worst video Eric has ever produced. This video is a lesson of impatience and ignorance, driving an emotional and erroneous conclusion.
@@davidwheeler7503 Brand new generator = no fuel in carburetor to get gummed up
I got the distinct impression from this video that Erics generator isn’t working. But I could be wrong.
Somehow Eric has slid down a dark path in his quest for power! Let us all sing Kumbaya to soothe his soul! lol.. get mad, get another brand , and you might as well name your packrat, your sleeping with him.....
Wonder if Tater has water in his fuel? Onan has been around a while and are known to have a good product. Let’s figure out it’s probably the Tater.
I live in western Oregon Where it rains 5-6 months of the year. I have 300 watts of solar on my camper and a 100 amp/hr LiFePo battery. I do not have a generator, nor do I charge from my tow vehicle. And yet, I've never ran out to battery power.
Are you running a fridge, toaster, microwave, note even a TV?
It totally depends on the loads you want to run. Most folks who fail with solar are trying to run like they are tied to the grid.
Code 36 means the engine stopped without a shutdown command from the Genset control panel. This could be caused by a bad fuel pump, clogged filter, crimped fuel line, dirty carb, out of fuel, etc. You will first want to check for these potential causes on the fuel system side and mechanical side of your generator
And make sure there's more than 1/4 tank of gas. I'm sure Wayne would check this.
the backup genny you had a whiles back was one of the smartest moves I ever saw you pull - propane gennys are quieter, cleaner, and reliable
They do produce less output then gas like the Onan 3600 propane vs 4000 gas.
But don’t put out as many watts.
Check the fuel line from the fuel tank for cracks, leaks? It sounds like carburetor is losing its prime. Maybe check for loose fuel fittings at the tank? Rodents may have gnawed at the fuel line?
Wouldn’t it be something if he discovered the problem was due to the critter he mentioned later in this video?
If you preformed routine maintenance run of generator for an hour a week you won't have problems. Likly to be sticking cut off fuel valve. OR STICKING FLOOTS IF GENERATOR BEEN SITTING FOR MONTHS WITHOUT BEING USED .SO REQUIRES CARB CLEAN..
When I was a generator mechanic in the army, there was a toggle switch. One side was for auto start , the other side was for manual start with a pull rope, if the switch was in the wrong direction, it would not run. Just an idea. Hope this works.
The Onan 4000 only has a pole switch on or off for 30amp breaker .
Gee , mine (onan 5500) has only lasted 23 years. I must be doing something wrong.
Mine, 14 yrs and still cranking up. You have to stay on top of the oil changes and filter & plugs
FYI, at 10pm after cloudy day Freedah sits at 93.6 percent. Thanks for doing it right.
Our Onan Gen is 14 years old. Still working like a champ. Just kept clean oil in it, changed the plugs & filter constantly and changed the carburetor once. Still working like a charm.👍☺️
Eric. Remember Generac is owned by Onan. So be aware of that. You might check for water in the fuel. We had an onan 4000 found it to be water in the fuel. We used HEET in the fuel, to help dry it out. Then we had to drain the fuel, and start from scratch.
Your Onan was created a Lemon! We all sure learn a lot from you Eric, and thank you. 🙏☕️👍🏻🇺🇸. 🫵🏻. 🍺
I have an Onan QD6000, QD is Quiet Diesel, 6000 watts, 7 years old, 1,400 hours and it has never failed me. I do maintenance every 150 hours. Didn't you once had the problem where the generator would run for awhile then stop and after trying several fixes, you finally found it was an easy fix?
Disconnect the oil pressure switch and then ground the wire to the block of the motor. See if it stays running. If that fixes the problem make sure your oil level is correct and then replace the oil pressure switch.
I've found that mine runs best when the oil is a little low. I need to have it at the bottom of the hash marks on the dipstick.
My parents bought a 1972 Winnebago brand new back in the day, and it had a Onan 3800KW generator in it that was always messing up. We had to replace the carb/governor all the time because it would either get stuck on choke or would not maintain the right speed under load.
The Onan has a fuel problem ... hook up a small tank of fuel and run the line in to the Onan and it should run fine. I have seen this before.
I have had the same generator many times and they all needed help. If you put a clear fuel filter in line you can then verify if you are getting fuel to the carb
My almost 20 yr old onan generator had problems staying on. It turned out to be a small leak in the gas line.
I took it to a specialized onan technician to figure out the probably, after
I spent hundreds of dollars at a rv dealership who failed to diagnose the problem.
PLEASE READ! Clean the carb, they stop up real quick if sitting even for a few weeks. I had the gas line on my Class C get weak and collapse when the gen starts pumping. Did exactly what yours is doing. Run a line into a gas can a see if it will run ok. Could they have replaced the gen and the problem was a gas line??
Ok. I’ve had 2 different Rv’s with Onan Generators and have been fortunate enough to only have one issue with either one. But the problem was with me and what I did when I changed the oil. When I changed the oil and I moved the throttle spring over when I put in new oil. I forgot to put it back in place when I was done. The generator started but would not keep running. I found it and for the next 3 years had no problems.
Best of luck on your generator.
Eric, My Onan did the same thing. For me it was something in the fuel tank, which I have not fixed yet. Somehow it would no longer draw fuel from the tank. Like something in the tank broke or let loose as far as the fuel line to generator. I figured this out by taking a 5 gallon stand alone fuel can, took an extra fuel line I had and put it directly onto the fuel pump that comes out the side of the generator. Take the gas line that is connected to the generator fuel pump into the 5 gallon gas tank. my Onan generator would run until the 5 gallon tank was empty. Put the fuel line into a fresh 5 gallon tank and it would run until that was empty. So for me it turns out that its NOT the actual generator, but something to do with how it draws fuel from the main gas tank. Try this to see if it works for you......
My mom,s RV had the Onan generator removed and she has the Predator generator from Harbor Freight to plug into when she has no solar power.
Too loud
I agree! I am hooked up to shore in Apache Junction, and it is freezing! Mountains have been snowed on, and am SICK of Rain!! It has been cold and rainy most of this winter hope it's not 120 again in the summer. Hoping to be heading to MI in the spring. Good luck on getting a generator and stay warm, sorry dry will be a challenge, lol.
Sorry you are having so many problems with the generator. We have had Onan in 3 different RV’s over the years and never had any problems. My husband would exercise the unit for 1 hour every 4-6 weeks under full load. You are just jinxed.
I wish you luck. 😮
I'm curious why was it originally replaced? Check the fuel line/pump/filter going to the chassis fuel tank.
The Onan I had in my last RV was VERY touchy about gumming up the carb if not run every day or two. I let it set fo two or three months once and it would not start. Since the carbs are sealed, I had to buy a new one (what a pain to replace). It started first time, but I then used both Stabil and SeaFoam gas treatment and never had another issue. Try adding a bunch of SeaFoam to the gas and kept trying to run it a little at a time. See if it won't clean it out.
I swear by Seafoam. Used it in my boat every fall for 12 years and it always started right up every spring after.
Get you some "Victor" brand Rat snap traps. They're the big wood ones. Bait with a tiny bit of peanut butter. Catch em within days. Then focus on sealing entry points under RV
The roof looks super great! Sorry about the generator being a bust. It's always something... 😕
you probably have the gen set fixed by now but a code 36 usually has to do with fuel. My problem was a bad fuel pump. One other thing I found was that when I prime the system for a count of 30 (seems like forever) it always works.
I have an Onan w/ 350 hrs from previous owners. It’s been serviced and was working. Though I’ve barely used it, I am now having the same issue as you. Won’t stay on. I was hoping you had a solution. So frustrating.
You need to run these generators often.
Also,key is using a high tech gasoline stabilizer,like PRI-G .
The ethenol in untreated gasoline pulls water to it,creating layers of gunk in carburetors + fuel injection systems.
Also,change gas filters to generator.
@@Bubba-wx7lpyes I’ve been told I need to run it more. Thanks for the advice.
After that rant, IF you can fix the problem are you going to recant your condemnation.? I am not there, but I have seen problems like this that have stumped many good mechanics. If I were there and had my tools the first thing I would do is take the fuel line off and run a line to a small 1 gallon gas tank I took off of an old lawnmower decades ago , hold the tank up high as the hose would let me and try to start it. And let it run long enough that I would know the problem is or isn't in the engine on the generator and if not trace the fuel lines back to the tank to see if there is a pinhole in it anywhere. If it wont run with the tank held high giving it fuel then you know the problem is the engine on the generator and make the guy that sold it to you eat it. While you have a little pressure on the carb you can see if it is flooding out because of a little dirt or something under the needle valve in the carb. IF it runs with fuel from a tank as described check all fuel lines, make sure that if the RV has an electric pump supplying fuel to the genset that the pump is 100% too much pressure is just as bad as not enough pressure.
I also wonder if he will retract his comments/criticism if he finds out it wasn’t an Onan problem.
We had same trouble with generator and it was the oil level..they are very picky and we had over filled a little bit on its first oil change.
The pac rat could be your generator problem…chewed wires….we have it constantly here in the Calif high desert!
It was good to see you again the hardware store the other day. Hopefully you were able to find what you’re looking for as I did but took about 30 minutes to put my plumbing parts together. I’m wondering if you brought that pack rat from your property? Remember, February is typically the wettest month of the year in Arizona.
I can recommend the Predator 3500 from Harbor Freight. I have almost 1000 hours on mine and its run well. Not perfect or without issue (no electric start w/ a frayed pull start) but I run it days at a time while at Dega and it works perfectly and never lets us down. Good luck!!
Poor ol' Tater ! lol
hey Eric, your generator is starving for fuel and the internet says "Code 36 means the engine stopped without a shutdown command from the Genset control panel. This could be caused by a bad fuel pump, clogged filter, crimped fuel line, dirty carb, out of fuel, etc. You will first want to check for these potential causes on the fuel system side and mechanical side of your generator."
take out some oil i have that happen to mine if its too full
My ONAN has ran perfectly fine for the last 8 years, i cycle it at least once a month or so and service it every year with a kit made for it, not sure what your problem is
9:53 we're over here in the Q24 area. We got a mouse, too 🫣 and ours seems to be hanging out in our heat vent, too. We got some sticky traps, a snap trap, a spinny trap thing, and some poison. None of the traps have a mouse yet but we haven't heard it for a few days. Maybe he left our rig & ran over there to you. Hopefully your cats get it!
You don’t need to get rid of your Onan. Buy some carb cleaner and some VP Performance fuel. I got mine working again. I got an Onan tune up kit from Amazon. It needed it anyway. But that still wasn’t the problem. I considered replacing the carburetor. Instead I bought a can of VP fuel from Tractor Supply. I bought a 2ft or so piece of fuel line. I installed the spark plug and gas filter from the kit. On the gas tank side of the Onan fuel filter I installed the 2ft fuel line and put the other end in the VP can. The air filter cover was not installed yet. Spray carb cleaner into carburetor and turn over the generator. When it sounds like it’s going to die, quickly spritz more carb cleaner. While doing this, VP fuel is being drawn into the engine. VP is 94 octane straight fuel. No ethanol. The carb cleaner and VP dissolved the gum a little at a time. When it could stay running on its own I left it run for an hour then shut it off and let it sit overnight. The next day it fired up no problem but sounded a little rough yet so I used my can of VP as the fuel source again, not needing carb cleaner this time. I let the generator run for an hour again, shut it down and let it sit overnight. By the next morning it ran fine so I connected the regular gas line again. It’s been fine ever since.
Wow the Bigfoot looks fab
It ain't backwards. You got yourself a much better RV than what you had previously. It requires work to get it up to par, but that's because Par for your RVs is set very high. It's got to be a full time Power HOUSE. :)
Harbor freight isn’t a favorite of mine, but I’ve had the predator generator and must say it’s with every penny. Down side. You have to move it every time you travel
My friend went to Parker and picked up a generator last weekend 🤷♀️ Closer than Yuma
Maybe get someone certified on Onan generators?
Eric, I have the same generator, and had the same problem. Found out the oil dipstick is faulty, the generator detects too much oil and shuts down. You have to take enough oil out to the line on dipstick that says add oil, and that's actually full. It will probably start right up. Mine did. Now I always keep it at the add oil line and it has run great for a long time now.
i have never had a onan generator not run! they always run for myself. i worked on onan warranty
I have seen many people have issues with Onan and they added a little more oil, and it worked.
ONAN GENERATOR's headquarters that can be called for assistance is in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.
My 8000 QUIET ONAN DIESEL GENERATOR has a lot of hours on it with never once letting me down'
@ ERIC THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS VIDEO. ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANKS YOU WAYNE.
❤😽❤😽
Just maybe it's the "OPERATOR?" LMAO😅😅😅
Eric, does the generator have any warranty in it? If it’s brand new, it should.
I have the same generator in my 83 Wanderlodge and the code 36 directly applies to the fuel system. My issue was my installation missed an old fuel filter inline that was clogged. They put in a new one but missed the old one. The fuel pumps are horrible for those as well
I heard that they shipped with too much oil in them. My hubby googled and that’s why it shuts down.
Reduce the oil and it should be fine!!!! Hope it saves you a ton of $$$$$ and time.
Good luck!!! Vicki
I had that problem with the Onan and it was a wire with a bad spot (bare) touching the top of the unit
WOW, love my 10kw Onan. Works GREAT for me, all 50 states.
As does our 6k Onan diesel.
Class A 6 year Onan Generator. Runs great. Done an oil and air filter change and still runs.
We had a similar issue. They had to run an exhaust out of compartment. It was not getting enough air
Eric, it sounds like it may be fuel supply issue. On a rig as old as yours I would not be surprised that the fuel filter going to the genny is clogged. I don't know, I'm not there but I would check the simple stuff first. Good luck.
There's a RUclips video I came across that helped my onan 4000 run.
The advice was to not follow the oil line they provide and to take a turkey baster and suction out a pint of oil.
My onan magically started. 😊
as I said on patreon having same problems with new generator. I saw a post on the Onen RV generators FB group that the oil dipstick may be wrong and if you keep oil at the 1/2 it may run. I have to check that next.
We used to have three NASCAR drivers from northern Indiana--including the Rocket Man, Ryan Newman. Now we don't have any that I know of, although I haven't been following as closely since Newman was forced to retire from Cup racing.
Whine with your cheese? What a negative video.
I thought you had solar on your trailer that you were able to hook up to.
I guess that won't help much with more rain coming.
You'll have an amazing system when Wayne is done. 👍
It's got to be tough to be without power now, though.
I hope you find a dependable generator soon.
Eric I'm willing to bet its on your end and I think it has something to do with the oil system its that or the fuel filter packs up after a little time. I Love Onan Buddy good luck.
My last Onan ran great every time not one hick-up. My current Onan Diesel 8K runs even better, I have 1300 hours on it now and it starts and runs for hours at a time. I think one problem people have with them is not running them under load for 2 to 3 hours at a time at a minimum once a month. I also have a Honda 3k that seems to be hard to start 6 or 7 pulls unless it is warm I don't work that one enough is its problem. Call Onan and check on the warranty. Good luck.
Novel concept to have it looked at under warranty. I wonder why he hasn’t done that. I guess it’s just easier to trash the company.
Have you considered a second alternator to go with your DC-DC Victron charger? Then, you could use the vehicle engine to charge your batteries while driving and in a pinch when the Onan isn't working.
My 7500 onan I have have for 20 years and have had no issues other than basic maintenance. it is diesel however.
Eric when you get to Daytona there is a Onan generator shop here we have great experience with. They fixed my sisters and worked on my buddy's. No problems after. I'll have to look at the paperwork to get the address. It's one of those ext roads that crosses over Nova and goes down to Ridgewood Ave. It's in a ent a bldg park.
1st thing, run the genset on a jug of fuel. Hook straight to the fuel pump. This eliminates your fuel line.
I have a 24 year old Tioga with a 4000 W Onan. At the moment, my gas is too low to run it, bit I have never had any problem with it. Maybe getting a good one is a fluke.😊
Not a fluke at all. Our 6000 watt Onan in our ‘13 Thor palazzo has had almost 800 hours put on it since we bought the coach in ‘21 with ZERO problems.
Have pretty much same genny and same issue... came with my new unit in 2018 and it's been a POS from day 1. I bought a new carb for it but I haven't installed it yet. My research tells me these carbs are a problem and get clogged very quickly. Old timer in an RV park told me everyone who has these carries a couple extra carbs on hand at all times cuz its so common. How these have such good ratings is beyond me.
Instead of bashing Onan, find a local Cummins dealer that services Onan generators. Because it's new, it will be under warranty! I had a similar issue with the one that came with our toy hauler. It would run for 15-20 minutes, then shut down. Turns out it was a bad carburator. Cummins replaced it free under warranty. I was also told to run strictly ethanol free gas. Small engines DO NOT like fuel with ethanol. 🤷
Novel concept to pursue the warranty.
Like someone said below , Yank the Onan out and wire in a Harbor Freight Predator . Simple maintaining and you shouldn't have any more problems . My Onan in my 1992 motorhome is a beast , but , the date says it all . This one is a 32 year old Onan ( not one of these new junkers they make ) . I put a new spark plug in it every year and change the oil every year ( or 200 hours ) and never failed me so far . Owned the motorhome for ten years now . Oh and once a month if not in use I run it for three hours under a load to keep things lubed up and the rings wet .
The generator being so new would it not be under warranty? It wouldn't be a quick fix I'm sure.
Your New Roof On Your RV, looks very very very very Cool 😎 Eric.
I have an Onan generator and it's worked great. I think you need to check the fuel line coming into the generator.
Mine was putting out too many hertz so it had to be backed down and now it runs and of course there is an altitude adjustment. I assume Wayne has checked the output to make sure its putting out enuf hertz to keep it running. Good luck I just went thru what you are now.
It's a bad fuel line coming from the tank. Original and dry rotted probably sucking air. Camper van Kevin had the same problem with his. And some older mechanic fixed it.
PS- wheres that small portable backup generator you had??? 🤔
More rain coming! Glad you got roof sealed.
I have a Camel item, that I didn't see on your shelves.
Bummer 😮!
Have faith in Wayne! He won't quit till it's fixed. A problem with the install, most likely. Good luck!
I'm seeing this video Monday. night. Harbor Freight had a SALE which ended last night, and guess what they had 😮?
PREDATOR 3500 Watt SUPER QUIET Inverter Generator.
Perfect for most Class C motorhomes. I had my eye on this for a while. Thought I was going to get one for sure when I got my '88 Lazy Daze Class C. My RV Tech rebuilt my on board ONAN Generator instead. Purrs like a kitten.
But... I've always liked that PREDATOR 3500. Just last year, I think it was over $900.
Through last night, it was on sale for $699.00
I've never seen it that low!
You'll land on your feet like all cats do... thanks to Wayne!
What product did you use on your rv roof I need to do the same thing thanks
He showed product can in last video.
If the generator is brand new, call for warranty service. Don’t let anyone “ work “ on it because it could possibly void your warranty. My Onan generator is 22 years old and we have NEVER had any problems with it! WE HAVE POWER!!!!
Already tested fuel flow with the gas line off. We have fuel and spark. Stupid piece of crap just won’t run.