It's great to have conversations with kids about morals and ethics. They are the future, and for them to learn about compassionate choices, is very valuable. Way to go, Cip💚
Gah, it's frustrating that the parents listening were just getting triggered instead of learning about the injustice they demand by the purchasing/consuming stolen flesh and secretions from sentient beings who cannot consent to their treatment.
Well done Cip, another great convo! I have a couple suggestions: When doing the “what if it were dog (or human) meat” hypothetical”, i think its easier to grasp if you present it as “what if you suddenly discovered the meat you have been eating all your life was actually from dogs/humans…” This way the carnist doesnt have to think about an alternate universe where they were conditioned differently. The alternate universe type of hypothetical can also be useful in trying to show them that their moral intuitions are not necessarily a good guide because they are subject to cultural conditioning to be desensitized to evil practices, but in the context you are presenting the hypothetical (ie the urgency of going vegan) it is better to keep the carnist engage in the current universe. One other related suggestion is that when you come up with carnist who say they will consider changing without making an on-the-spot commitment, I think it is useful to try to extract a promise that they live as a vegan at least until they have finished thinking about it. After all, if you arent sure eating something was poisonous you wouldnt eat it or feed it to someone before you did the research to be sure it is safe. Similarly, now that they are considering whether animal products are a moral poison (unjustifiably harms animals), it is unreasonable to keep eating them while you are in the period of contemplation and investigation.
There are varying levels of cntrol by human parents to their tens whom are begging to ask why they wer lied to". But it refects the dissiculties indoors too ( in some cases) . They are inexcusably disturbed.
That was very good Cip....maybe new vegans on the horizon, hopefully not to far away . Typical parents worrying incase the girls go vegan , and might be confronted with their own cognitive dissonance .
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i just noticed the parents were putting pressure in the background. thank you for taking a few extra moments to ask that important question.💚🌱
Exactly. 😮💨 upsetting
Looking back I feel like I should’ve let them talk more. But, as there was a time constraint, I wanted them to have the full picture
@@veganpowerlab You were great and still planted more than a few seeds. 👏👏👏
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David 🤗💚 I appreciate you
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Ban it all!
Ban veganism.
The dilemma of young people like them is, that they are living with their parents, and they get to eat what is put on the table.
Really great talk! The what if all meat was dog meat from this point forward made an impact.
I hope so. It was interrupted by the parent, which kind-of sucks, but I hope they got something from it 🤗💚
That was great cip, they seemed to really take in what you said. Great job ❤
They definitely left with extra information and a seed planted. I wish I had more time though 🤗💚
Great outreach :)
It's great to have conversations with kids about morals and ethics.
They are the future, and for them to learn about compassionate choices, is very valuable.
Way to go, Cip💚
I think a seed planted at a young age can mean a lot, yes
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How are you an omnivore for the animals and the environment?
Gah, it's frustrating that the parents listening were just getting triggered instead of learning about the injustice they demand by the purchasing/consuming stolen flesh and secretions from sentient beings who cannot consent to their treatment.
It is frustrating, indeed. But, they realize that it would mean they also have to change and it seems hard to them, I guess 🤷♂️
Well, if they can't consent then we have no choice but to steal their flesh and secretions.
RoidRage using the logic of r**pists to justify their actions
@@veganpowerlab I don't really know any rapists so I wouldn't know.
Well done Cip, another great convo! I have a couple suggestions:
When doing the “what if it were dog (or human) meat” hypothetical”, i think its easier to grasp if you present it as “what if you suddenly discovered the meat you have been eating all your life was actually from dogs/humans…” This way the carnist doesnt have to think about an alternate universe where they were conditioned differently.
The alternate universe type of hypothetical can also be useful in trying to show them that their moral intuitions are not necessarily a good guide because they are subject to cultural conditioning to be desensitized to evil practices, but in the context you are presenting the hypothetical (ie the urgency of going vegan) it is better to keep the carnist engage in the current universe.
One other related suggestion is that when you come up with carnist who say they will consider changing without making an on-the-spot commitment, I think it is useful to try to extract a promise that they live as a vegan at least until they have finished thinking about it. After all, if you arent sure eating something was poisonous you wouldnt eat it or feed it to someone before you did the research to be sure it is safe. Similarly, now that they are considering whether animal products are a moral poison (unjustifiably harms animals), it is unreasonable to keep eating them while you are in the period of contemplation and investigation.
Great work as always!
There are varying levels of cntrol by human parents to their tens whom are begging to ask why they wer lied to". But it refects the dissiculties indoors too ( in some cases) .
They are inexcusably disturbed.
Great work. Thank you.💚💚💚
Great work as usual, thank you 💗💗
Great conversation Cip! They seemed receptive to learning more about veganism. 🌞🌱💯💚
Great job, as always!
It is good to see young people receptive to the message.
That was very good Cip....maybe new vegans on the horizon, hopefully not to far away . Typical parents worrying incase the girls go vegan , and might be confronted with their own
cognitive dissonance .
I didn’t wanna push them too much. I feel like they understood something and I hope they watch themselves and reflect.
@@veganpowerlab yeah lets hope so 👍👍
Thank you for speaking up for animals 💖💖💖💖
What is the full list of supplements that this outspoken vegan takes please..
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Cip, do you have an email address where I and others can get in touch?
Yes, I do! My email address is ciprian@mbe.ro
@@veganpowerlab Thank you very much, CIP,🙂
“Bart Kay”… disagrees.
If it is a "moral stance", why the f are you taking about the diet?
Considering the fact that 80 billion farmed land animals get killed every year for food, diet has a lot to do with it.
Great work Cip😊 they seemed to have some willingness🙏
Everyone should go vegan now, be kind to animals😊🙏❤️❤️❤️🐮🐷🐔🐇🐟🐝🦢🦆🐐🐀🐋🐑🐁🦃💚💚💚
Everyone should be vegan! It’s the bare minimum! 🤗💚
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