Painting Warhammer for MEN

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @SimonClark
    @SimonClark 3 дня назад +91

    Thank you so much for painting a model for Movember Marines Guy!

  • @Ciaphas_Cain69
    @Ciaphas_Cain69 3 дня назад +123

    I'll be honest, as a young man with depression and a history with alcoholism (10 months sober now and no bad thoughts) this hit a little too close home.
    Thank you and Hatty for doing these awesome models and your efforts on educating about these issues.
    Stay safe boys, we're all gonna make it, pinky promise!

    • @sdrrshock5594
      @sdrrshock5594 3 дня назад +11

      Well done on 10 months! I’m a ex heroin addict with almost 11 years clean and I still work at it most day! Keep it up dude

    • @martind5565
      @martind5565 3 дня назад +5

      well done lads :)

    • @0griggs
      @0griggs 3 дня назад +4

      Youre doing great

    • @rump438
      @rump438 3 дня назад

      Imagine being guy and having Ciaphas fucking Cain commenting on your video
      dead ass tho congrats on the sobriety.

  • @drpretzel2086
    @drpretzel2086 3 дня назад +20

    Sometimes when I jokingly say “Painting the Tiny plastic men keeps the depression away.” Sometimes it doesn’t feel like I’m joking.

  • @LuckGod84
    @LuckGod84 3 дня назад +34

    Thanks so much for making this video. Im a therapist in essex and we have some of the worst rates of men ending their lives in the country. It really is so important that men destigmatise talking about how they feel and getting the help they need.
    Thanks again

  • @chrisboger2750
    @chrisboger2750 3 дня назад +5

    Being a single father is rough, co-parenting is rough... the weeks without my kids are rougher still. I got into Warhammer to occupy my time in the evenings after work while the kids are gone and have been watching your channel for around 5 years now. Glad you got a good reaction from your littles with the new facial hair. My youngest gets upset when I trim my beard, I haven't seen my face going on 15 years.

  • @Wr3cking8a11
    @Wr3cking8a11 3 дня назад +36

    Nessa looked like she was one of the data brokers being discussed in the ad spot. Too guilty, too suspicious. Excellent video!

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 3 дня назад +1

      Nessa would never. She's a good girl!

    • @cabe_bedlam
      @cabe_bedlam 3 дня назад +3

      Data borker?

  • @nicholassmith5206
    @nicholassmith5206 3 дня назад +33

    Beautiful video mate. I've struggled in the past with mental health issues myself and it's so nice to see people champion these causes. ❤

  • @leowest2203
    @leowest2203 3 дня назад +112

    White Scar for charity? Missed opportunity for a pun:
    Cause'arro Khan

    • @soupalex
      @soupalex День назад

      coarse hair-o khan

  • @someguywhopaints692
    @someguywhopaints692 2 дня назад +2

    Hey Guy, thanks for raising these issues. Recovering alcoholic, attempted ending my own life this time last year. Psychiatric hospital, medication, relapses, but hey, it's a year later, still here. Keep up the good work my friend, love your work as a fellow Essex lad :)

  • @SomeDudeOnYouTube
    @SomeDudeOnYouTube 3 дня назад +2

    I have suffered from depression long time and have been open about it. Offline and online at various occasions. Once I got a reply on one of those occasions from someone thanking me for talking about it because it helped them. Men, we need to talk. About those things. Talking helps. Even it's only there to show you: you're not alone! So thanks Guy for putting this out there and make it seen. Cheers.

  • @alextv4930
    @alextv4930 18 часов назад +1

    I’m homeless and watching painting minis like your videos actually helps me keep some hope as I’m a very creative person who love painting like this and this is my only outlet for it as I can’t afford any of it

    • @MidwinterMinis
      @MidwinterMinis  14 часов назад

      I hope things turn around for you soon, mate! You'll be painting again in no time :)

  • @novahthemisfit6569
    @novahthemisfit6569 3 дня назад +28

    16:13 "What was noise?"
    "The sound of progress, my friend."

  • @KateHolden
    @KateHolden 3 дня назад +11

    I really love how the mini painting sphere has embraced Movember. There are a lot fewer socially acceptable hobbies involving creativity, self-expression, and quiet reflection for men than women. It's important to have that sort of space in your life. Look after yourselves, lads ❤️

  • @wesleymiles8756
    @wesleymiles8756 3 дня назад +6

    White Scars, Iron Hands, and the Raven Guard definitely deserve more love. They're all such extremely cool and unique chapters. Im hoping the Khan himself and Corax will return from their warp escapades eventually.

  • @magnusmillerwilson
    @magnusmillerwilson 2 дня назад +1

    Guy, I really appreciate how open and REAL you are about things while diving into toys and allowing yourself and all of us to escape from the darkness of real life to enjoy some communal crafting, painting, hobbying, and nerdy joy. COVID was a dark time, and definitely triggered the depression that I’ve always struggled to keep just barely at bay. Finding Warhammer, painting, your channel and a few others like Black Magic Craft and Goobertown Hobbies helped me find a creative, quiet space where I could get some solace. Rock on! 🤘

  • @HilbertGerald
    @HilbertGerald 2 дня назад +2

    Dude, everything u have to go through is meant to lead to something greater. We all were for eternity bound together by Love throgh space and time.

  • @MLiskindagay
    @MLiskindagay 3 дня назад +5

    It really feels like Guy recognises his position of relative privilege and uses it to help a lot of people, and he doesn’t try to present himself as a saint. He’s a good man from what I can see

  • @Darkreaper1982
    @Darkreaper1982 3 дня назад +22

    @18:28 "Magnum Pork-pie"
    🤣

  • @aqua7734
    @aqua7734 3 дня назад +4

    Great work for a great cause.
    Thinking back to 2020 when I first watched your Speed painting Ultramarines video, which inspired me to think maybe I can try this painting thing for myself rather than just watching other people do it. Thanks again.

  • @paintballgoose263
    @paintballgoose263 3 дня назад +5

    It's nice to hear someone express genuine concerns and care for mens mental health awareness. Thank you ,Guy. I also feel like the Khan would do the same for his sons. He would want them to be at their best to be the fastest they can be.

  • @dr.sommercamp3435
    @dr.sommercamp3435 3 дня назад +5

    Suffering from depression myself, I'll just type an ❤! Stay safe and greetings from germany!

  • @BewilderedDuck-e5l
    @BewilderedDuck-e5l 3 дня назад +4

    Thanks for helping out such an important cause and speaking openly about it.
    Magnum P.I.? More like Ned Flanders 😂

  • @GoblinsLoft
    @GoblinsLoft 2 дня назад +2

    OMS! They're using contractions! How time flies

  • @TheTankArtist
    @TheTankArtist 3 дня назад +94

    Guy is just one of the most wholesome humans on the planet

    • @MidwinterMinis
      @MidwinterMinis  3 дня назад +22

      I'm absolutely not, but thanks! Haha

    • @TheTankArtist
      @TheTankArtist 3 дня назад +12

      ​@MidwinterMinis no, seriously, you only make videos which make others happy and raise alot money for charity too!

    • @AutismGal
      @AutismGal 3 дня назад +5

      Agreed

  • @JayfromTerra
    @JayfromTerra 3 дня назад +3

    Now that’s a small world: one of my favourite exo planet podcasters being mentioned on my favourite mini-painting RUclips channel.
    Someone please tell me the odds!

  • @eastoforion
    @eastoforion 2 дня назад +1

    almost exactly my HH whitescars recipe, except I airbrushed it instead of sponging. your sponging gave a fantastic effect!

  • @enricofatzanatas4088
    @enricofatzanatas4088 3 дня назад +2

    Thank you for raising awarness Guy. Sadly a problem alot of people dont want to hear about.

  • @gasknight
    @gasknight 3 дня назад +7

    With only the moustache you look like Peter from Deadpool 😂😂😂. Sick ‘tache though

  • @coleviloria3800
    @coleviloria3800 3 дня назад +1

    Very happy my friend Dan recommended your channel for when I started collecting Warhammer models in September/October. Thank you for doing a charity model marine for Movember. Stay strong mates, I know it’s cliche but you’re not alone. Much love from across the pond.

  • @Doombastico
    @Doombastico 3 дня назад +1

    Shweet! Absolutely huge White SCARS fan, so it's awesome to finally see one painted up on this channel, and for a fantastic cause no less.
    Very nice work on the Khan there, looks damn good!

  • @andrewbehrens3540
    @andrewbehrens3540 3 дня назад +5

    I suffer from major depression disorder. I’m a suicide survivor. I do therapy, take my medication and I am still here! No one should struggle alone talk about your feelings, go to therapy. Do the work you can get through dark times. Also to quote Scott hall “bad times don’t last but bad guys do.” Much love to all.

    • @lukespicer1982
      @lukespicer1982 3 дня назад

      What do you do when you've done a lot of therapy, tried a lot of meds, rang every helpline etc and nothing works? I rang the Mind info line and told them everything I've tried and asked them what next and they had no advice for me, just feel completely hopeless.

  • @jackkyle8414
    @jackkyle8414 День назад

    Guy, I am currently painting up my Leagues of Votann that I got last year for Christmas while I listen to your videos. I don't do a lot of painting over the course of a year, I usually just do it when I need to relax.
    And this time's no different. I've recently started on a new medication to help with my depression, and it's caused some distressing side-effects for me while I'm at work. I can tell you with certainty that the videos you upload to RUclips of yourself painting a toy (8:30) do help to a degree with this process of mine.
    Your videos are so, SO relaxing. If I couldn't listen to your videos while I painted, I think the next best thing would be some slow, night time jazz.
    Point being, I hope that you value yourself and these videos you make as much as I do.

  • @wietsesartsythings969
    @wietsesartsythings969 3 дня назад +2

    Guy.... Flanders?!?! 😮. Wonderful work on the mini and the good cause, super job!

  • @tristram4711
    @tristram4711 3 дня назад +3

    Cheers for a positive video (not that you arent normally positive). Just a big hug for dads that need it. Consequence and circumstance are all subjective, don't neglect youself. reach out for help if you need it.

  • @victormata7665
    @victormata7665 3 дня назад

    As someone that has struggled with mental health issues, I am grateful of this channel, it has helped me in some of the darkest moments in my life. Thank you for everything Guy.

  • @reytheist
    @reytheist 3 дня назад +2

    Lovely video for a worthy cause. If you play with oils again, foam eyeshadow applicators work better than cotton swabs.

  • @rhenford3687
    @rhenford3687 3 дня назад +1

    Guy looks exactly like my brother. It's always funny to see guys face talking with a British accent, because me and my brother are from Alabama, so u can imagine how we talk... lol. Love the content. Thanks guy!

  • @andrescholz6124
    @andrescholz6124 3 дня назад +1

    Wahrscheinlich das für mich angenehmste Video des Jahres auf dem Channel. Nicht aufgrund des Bezugs zu männlicher psychischer Gesundheit, sondern weil es zeitgleich sehr ernst und doch mit der nötigen Offenheit für solche Themen an den Start gekommen ist. Gute Arbeit !

    • @andrescholz6124
      @andrescholz6124 3 дня назад

      @Guy Have Fun translating it with Google. :D

  • @jamesbalchin7573
    @jamesbalchin7573 2 дня назад

    Guy never listen to the people bringing you down in the comments what you're doing is amazing and people really look up to you

  • @schaaf9637
    @schaaf9637 3 дня назад +2

    For the Khan and the Emperor.
    Soulblight Grey Shade is excellent for painting White Scars over White Primer (quick and easy).

  • @Velcraft
    @Velcraft 2 дня назад

    Ending the video on such a positive note after tackling the why of Movember (very professionally, mind!) was a great choice - chuckled at the twins' reactions to the "Magnum Pork-Pie" look. Thank you for using your reach for such a good cause!

  • @Abefroman-lq3md
    @Abefroman-lq3md 3 дня назад +4

    Another belter Guy!!
    Salutations from Belfast Northern Ireland 🇬🇧

  • @thelazerbunny7905
    @thelazerbunny7905 2 дня назад

    Guy is such a nice person loved meeting him a while ago and the causes you support just lovely.

  • @Micsma
    @Micsma 3 дня назад +1

    Oh Guy. I've been strictly building for models for like two months now and the sheer amount of mould lines I've scraped with the back of my xacto is insane. Those skulls though? I feel your pain.

  • @baalrog887
    @baalrog887 3 дня назад +3

    Just imagining Hatty colour grading footage of her colour grading... Woah... Trippy...

  • @facucolipi
    @facucolipi 3 дня назад +1

    Great video and incredible mini👍👍👍
    Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱

  • @monsterforge884
    @monsterforge884 3 дня назад

    Thank you for taking part in this cause. As someone who suffers from mental health issues, it means so much to hear that other men deal with it and that people from all over the world truly do care. Beautiful work as always, Guy!
    Rockin 'stache, bro!!!🤘

  • @danhowe1
    @danhowe1 2 дня назад

    I suffer more with depression than anxiety. While I was getting the christmas decisions down, I found my oldest brother's GW and started painting many years ago, which helped loads

  • @MrExeetor
    @MrExeetor 3 дня назад +1

    One of ur best minis tbh!

  • @Rhaumar
    @Rhaumar 14 часов назад

    While I don't mess around with Warhammer stuff, painting miniatures is my stress reliever. I do Battletech and use the time painting to relax and recover from crazy days at work. Working in a jail can make for some dark moments in life. Recently, things were going wrong at work that kept me from being able to actually work and it was taking me to a dark place because I could not provide for my family properly. No one asks a man how their mental health is. They always ask how they are and if a man shows weakness, we are thought of as defective and weak. We have to maintain an aura that betrays what is really going on inside. Painting, playing games, watching others paint...these help with the darkness and brings me back to the light. Fortunately, the issues at work have been resolved, I am back working, however, those dark thoughts still haunt me from time to time. I still paint, every day, even if for just a few minutes.
    I am glad that you are doing things for men's mental health. Not enough is truly said or done because, as I mentioned, it makes us seem weak, fragile and defective....things that women and other men see as failures. The man who maintains and pushes forward is stronger than you can imagine. Thank you for doing your part!

  • @adaml8827
    @adaml8827 2 дня назад

    Using the putty to add facial hair on that mini head worked really well! It looked totally sculpted and fit the theme perfectly.

  • @adamwood3220
    @adamwood3220 2 дня назад

    Fantastic video as always Guy and such an important topic. By the way for removing oil/enamel washes I highly recommend makeup sponges. I found that cotton buds leave fibers on the model and they're generally a pain to use. Makeup sponges can also be cut into useful shapes.

  • @humantwist-offcap9514
    @humantwist-offcap9514 3 дня назад +1

    Watching to see how you do the white because this is how I want my World Eaters to look

  • @Fushu713
    @Fushu713 20 часов назад

    Love the old school single model style once again. That Blood Angel Captain is pretttttty nifty. Maybe a you vs Hattie (sp? so sorry!) and then auction them????? Please???? I'd be easily convinced to drive prices up. You were one of the first painting channels I followed and I'll always support your stuff, Guy. Love you and your channel!

  • @benelgermosen
    @benelgermosen 3 дня назад +1

    Those oil washes really makes the final miniature look Blanche-esque.

  • @LouisBidmead
    @LouisBidmead 3 дня назад +1

    Moustache surprisingly good. Keep it for a few months!

  • @Mosaic117
    @Mosaic117 3 дня назад

    Guy if we’re all being honest, as much as we love your huge projects, I’m sure most of your fans would watch anything you put out :))

  • @zieg0r
    @zieg0r 3 дня назад

    I'm totally gonna loot that spongestick idea. Also: Important subject you're tackling there, I'm a 38 yo father of three, and Gork dammit there are days when the answer to the question "How do you tackle all this stuff?" is just "I don't, sometimes I just don't because I can't." I'm in therapy for about 2 years now and it's helped me enormously, so did going to the gym. Hang in there ladz, you got it. Embody your inner Ork, yoo'z neva beaten, always anuva chance for a propa scrap out dere!

  • @arrownymouse1811
    @arrownymouse1811 День назад

    Wow looking forward for the collab with HfH, love both of you!

  • @HomieGamal2
    @HomieGamal2 День назад

    As someone suffering from Dysthymia (persistent depressive disorder) and Asperger syndrome I fully support that society is speaking more open about mental health issues in men. Sadly the "real men don't cry" attitude is still strong with most people, that definitly needs to change! The model itself looks nice, just dont like White Scars. But probably an awesome model to kitbash a proper and good looking Inquisitor Coteaz^^

  • @blamedexter
    @blamedexter 3 дня назад

    really enjoyed this video of showing the day along with the painting. Neat idea

  • @PROJECTTANK
    @PROJECTTANK 3 дня назад +3

    guy i been watching your tube for a long time. aside for your content being amazing , must say your one of the most kindest genuine placid guys iv ever seen online, your kids seem to have a great dad,
    much respect to you and i truly wish you the best in life,

  • @joemacleod-iredale2888
    @joemacleod-iredale2888 3 дня назад +1

    Strong Ned Flanders look at the end there sir!

  • @garryame4008
    @garryame4008 День назад

    That TTcombat red paint is really vibrant and fun!

  • @whiteboy7thstreet
    @whiteboy7thstreet 3 дня назад +1

    I mean this in the kindest, sweetest way but guy with a moustache looks like someone I would run into in the IT department of a semi-large corporate firm

  • @Thatoneww2collecter
    @Thatoneww2collecter 3 дня назад +1

    Love the video by the way could you pls show off you ork army like you did with your necrons I really like your death skull scheme on them.

  • @charleswatson2605
    @charleswatson2605 3 дня назад

    great video Guy, mental health issues are 100% real, I struggle every day, and finding someone to listen is hard.

  • @Bluecho4
    @Bluecho4 3 дня назад +1

    It's a very easy mistake to think painting white means starting from a white base coat. Much like you don't paint a model JUST the deepest black and nothing else, you need to start at Less White and build up to a white highlight.
    Really love the way the sponges created the almost textured effect on the armor here. Very nice.

  • @B__C__
    @B__C__ 3 дня назад

    I am a fan of the White Scars (novels, general aesthetic and tabletop play-style), but as always wanted to do my own thing with Space Marine-side of the 3rd Edition 40k box I bought twenty years ago, so my bifurcated Dark Angel-ish green and orange boys with their yellow helmets and dark brass aquilas were born. They hail from a warm rainforested world so not as many bikes and a more South American/Amazon Jungle-kinda vibe, but everything else is pretty much the same.
    I feel a bit conflicted. I bought a couple of those Chibi-style Space Marine figures to paint over in my scheme. (You know, for the planet's Rio-style Carnival parades--every chapter of marines needs a mascot.) So I got a White Scar and a Tome Keeper marine off of ebay after the price on the blank, Sprue-gray marine went through the roof, figuring they would be easiest to paint over, but now I kinda don't want too except to grimdark them up a bit.
    Well... maybe I'll still paint over the Tome Keeper. 😉

  • @GoobiestGoober-mh4xp
    @GoobiestGoober-mh4xp 2 дня назад

    Really Channelling those dad vibes with that mucstash

  • @B__C__
    @B__C__ 3 дня назад

    I have to say that the mustache started out looking very biker-guy from the Village People there for a minute, but you pulled it out in the end. Cheers!

  • @Eli-cr1eh
    @Eli-cr1eh 3 дня назад +1

    This guy opened up about his family because of a month this is a great man here

  • @drfugorocks
    @drfugorocks День назад +1

    in amongst all the lovely comments just to say i'd stick to proper artists solvents for diluting oil washes, i use them a lot and i discovered early on straight 'white spirit' that stinks can damage the base coat even through varnish and it'll break up and slide off, and might be why his leg fell off.
    the fancy stuff still has a hint of that smell so you can still sniff it all you like, just like in art class! shit, just me..?

  • @isisnmagic1812
    @isisnmagic1812 2 дня назад

    Great fun video, also nice to know that Hattie is part of midwinter.

  • @Draekal
    @Draekal 3 дня назад

    I find 2:3 mix of oil to spirits does well for an oil wash. I am also going to look at using a makeup blending egg for removing excess oil paint when it has started to dry :)

  • @britinmadrid
    @britinmadrid 3 дня назад

    $45... for one sprue of plastic? Uh huh. That was plastic, mind you.
    Well done on supporting Movember!

  • @brotquel1592
    @brotquel1592 2 дня назад

    GUY SUDDENLY TURNED INTO NED FLANDERS?
    All jokes aside, great video, you're awesome!

  • @thehallway4228
    @thehallway4228 2 дня назад

    12:27 timestamp for when Ness sees a small fluffy dog. Very important.

  • @samlivera4915
    @samlivera4915 3 дня назад

    Speaks volumes that this is the first time I'm hearing about movember

  • @mastermavrick
    @mastermavrick 3 дня назад +1

    Nice video to highlight a great cause, one often ignored and or downplayed.. Awareness is the first step so here is hoping it helps/pushes someone to help.
    Enjoy Blasphemous great game and it has a sequel if ya want more. Now I realize surprised I have not seen any mini's close to it, well maybe a few things from the recent Trench Crusade stuff.

  • @benn1181
    @benn1181 2 дня назад

    I love my White Scars. I use oil as well to make em nice and grungy.

  • @SILOZANE
    @SILOZANE 3 дня назад +7

    Makeup smudge tools and glasses cleaning cloths are a great alternative to cottonbuds for removing the oil wash, and don't leave wispies.

  • @baphometsvomitcomet2350
    @baphometsvomitcomet2350 7 часов назад

    Thank you for this both the model from one of my favorite SM chapters, and the great cause! I'm a woman and am excessively left-wing, and even I recognize that claiming men do not have societal issues that need addressing just inevitably leaves nowhere for a lot of men to go but the man-o-sphere and its sexist, racist, and capitalistic grifters

  • @lolsovs
    @lolsovs 2 дня назад

    Wonderful video Guy, thank you for helping to raise awareness... If I may ask, how is it with your living situation? You mentioned some issues with your landlord and a desire to get your own place some videos ago.

  • @idontwanttopickone
    @idontwanttopickone 3 дня назад

    If you have a mould line like that one on the power pack, where there isn't much detail but you will struggle to get your knife to all of it. Instead of damaging the part with your blade, simply put some plastic glue on it using something thin and firm that's not plastic. The glue should dissolve the edge and you can then push any remaining bits down to get a smooth edge.

  • @DavidHesselfeldt
    @DavidHesselfeldt 2 дня назад

    "Magnum pork pie" the self burn, epic.

  • @barneymcwhat6241
    @barneymcwhat6241 4 часа назад

    not gonna lie, going by the title, i was excited to see guy do a howtobasic take on minipainting.
    this is better.

  • @9daywonda
    @9daywonda 3 дня назад

    Brilliant details.

  • @jmc7034
    @jmc7034 2 дня назад

    Fantastic vid. ❤❤❤❤

  • @ashjay1973
    @ashjay1973 2 дня назад

    Thanks Guy, really struggling at the minute, think it’s time to find help

  • @minihali
    @minihali 3 дня назад +1

    8:35 Just to share a bit of a personal story too. I've been out of a job for a pretty long while, but luckily, I am not the type to sit still. So I've been keeping busy. And it isn't like I am going to be out of a house or food on the table. But, there are still some part of some days when that looming dread will rear its head. And I think it took me a long time to realize what I felt may be depression, anxiety, whatever. It just didn't occur to be that was an option.

  • @infernostorm7446
    @infernostorm7446 3 дня назад

    I painted a white scars kill team a few months ago but I’m gonna go back and do it with a similar scheme to this one absolutely love it.
    #movember

  • @SnorlaxMinis
    @SnorlaxMinis 3 дня назад

    Terroriser is also part of movember and he recently had been gifted a spacewolf inspired armor for his samoyeds

  • @Apache_Cox
    @Apache_Cox 3 дня назад

    Magnum pork pig got a laugh out of me 😂

  • @Christian_from_Copenhagen
    @Christian_from_Copenhagen 3 дня назад

    Super cool seeing your filming setup, what focal length do you use for the painting shots?

  • @mattybbg6850
    @mattybbg6850 День назад

    The Keshig approve of this action.

  • @RightHandInteractive-RS
    @RightHandInteractive-RS 3 дня назад

    I love this video, keep it up!

  • @lukespicer1982
    @lukespicer1982 3 дня назад

    Great video! I've suffered with depression and anxiety my entire adult life and things often feel hopeless. Despite people saying help is out there its actually incredibly hard to get the help you need, I still haven't found anything that helps.
    Where did you get the super thin files from? Been looking for something similar.
    And what the hell was that dinner?!

  • @yoenderrebel
    @yoenderrebel 3 дня назад

    "here i am, in the woods, doing an ad read with my moustache very much intact'

  • @tanman729
    @tanman729 3 дня назад +1

    kind of a shame you posted this video at the end of the donation drive/month & not 11/1😕. semantically, i thought the idea is to keep the stache / not shave for all of november. but more importantly, a lot of people (such as myself) get their paychecks 1st of the month, and would've been able to give more without it chipping into their christmas budget.