I couldn't imagine not printing my photos. I hang them everywhere in my house, I think you should always be your own favourite artist and celebrate your own talent and skills
Fan of Hahnemuhle Photo Rag as well. Another good Hahnemuhle paper to check out is William Turner. It has a stronger texture and more of a matte finish that looks like canvas. Works well with images containing fine detail and textures.
So glad to see you continue pushing the 'print your photos' narrative. I try and tell every and any hobbyist who asks me about my work to go print their own as it really is such a great feeling. It truly transforms it. If you have a chance, try and get a print on Canson's Baryta Prestige paper. My last exhibition was done on that paper and I've been completely won over! It feels more like a semi-gloss and the texture is there but not overtly aggressive. And that barium sulphate highlight shine is... Bueno!
I have always said "you are not a photographer until you print your photographs". Literally to me everything is about the print, the camera I own to the printer I use, it is always about that finished product that gets nailed to the wall. It drives my Photo-friends nuts when I get a Fuji GFX because it will help me make better prints, and I am not bothered about speed and spec's. It was really interesting and helpful to see how different papers affect a photograph, thank you for that. I personally love two Epson papers and I use them all the time. Epson Exhibition Fiber, it is a wonderful semi-gloss smooth paper. The second favourite is toss up either Epson Hot Press Bright or Legacy Fiber for my mat papers. All three of these papers are wonderful with Black and White, especially the Exhibition Fiber. I have always been impressed with Hahnemule and Canson papers, I enjoy experimenting with them. I have always printed my own, I like the control of the final product. That said any thing bigger than 16x20 always gets sent out to the pro labs. I will have to try out that C- type it very interesting.
Thank you so much Kyle for this video, since the last one I looked into whitewall and couldn't decide on the paper and methods. Since I'm in France I guess I can receive the prints fast enough. I think they can print small sizes for a small price so one can choose easily. So thanks again every single of your video. It's a pleasure every time. Gorgeous content.
Been looking forward this follow up. I had a print done on the Hahnemuhle William Turner paper really loved how it turned out. Will be getting my next print framed
The maxima is the best paper i have ever used for color, the colors, depth and detail are incredible, it does need test proofs and color profiles to make accurate colors, the sharpening tho seems very close to a screen, so just make it look good on your computer and it’ll look good on the print, no need to exaggerate sharpening like on other papers., and the ultra gloss isn’t really a problem once it’s behind good coated glass, that way it looks truly stunning (altho all papers benefit from that glass besides the ultra matt ones). The fuji silk is really weird, i used that surface on fp100c some years ago, and I found it quite weird, but the other three WW have are regular surfaces and quite good. The ilford one can get really really nice blacks, you just need to edit the file so they print that way, and you really should try the baryta ilford paper, it’s basically the same as darkroom printing, and the inkjet one can’t truly compare to it, altho they try their best to imitate it. Inkjets are convenient and you can get good results without proofing quite easily, but the depth a good ctype gives when you edit for it is amazing. Too bad kodak has ceized production, as their paper was noticeably warmer than fuji’s, which as you said can get quite cold in tone.
Thanks for sharing this. Yeah, I can see the c-types shining with proper proofing. As mentioned in the video, was interesting to not adjust/proof and see how all of the papers look. I think I'll have to try some c-type with proofing in the future. Especially the baryta.
Thanks very much for this one. I’d never heard of that company until you mentioned them in one of your other videos. Assuming they ship to the United States, I’m most definitely going to have to try them out.
@@KyleMcDougall Great to know! Thank you. I'll use your link on my first order with them. Also, thanks for printing on all those papers as, based on your results and what I am looking for to print my Hasselblad and Leica work, I'm planning to use Hahnemühle Fineart Baryta for prints and Fine art print on aluminum dibond (using again the Hahnemühle Fineart Baryta) for some gifts I want to prepare for csome family members.
Nice video very informative, I have my own printer for producing my work, what I like to do is rotate my images on my walls so that when people come over they always see different sets of images and as a working Fashion portrait photographer in Los Angeles I’m always creating new images so it’s cost-effective to print my own work!
On the subject of printing, I have a question about print sizes. I resently made a print for someone as a friendly gesture, my first thought was to make the print as big as possible. But when I saw the final print it looked to big for the subject matter. Any thoughts about choosing print sizes ? I know this is subjective and depended of how the print is shown, but any pointers would be helpful.
I think a big thing is just thinking of where / how it will be displayed. Not everything needs to be printed large. I would go on a case-by-case basis depending on how it will be used.
Yes don’t do it, if you skimp on the printer you will never be happy with your prints, and even if you go and buy an ok to nice printer, with the amount of money you put upfront you could have had it printed somewhere by people who know what they are doing. Tlr.: skip the headache and the long time savings of doing it yourself are pretty small
This really all depends on what your end goal is. Are you looking to sell those prints, or simply just starting to learn more about printing? If you want to sell them and aren't going to be doing large volumes, I'd recommend using a lab. A professional printer that doesn't get used much can get finicky. I've had issues in the past with ink nozzles clogging. Nowadays I've switched to doing all my printing with a lab. But, if you simply want to start seeing your work printed, you could always get a small printer like the Canon Selphy, which is great to make 4x6 work prints which can help with building out projects. That isn't an inkjet, and won't teach you much about the technical aspects of the printing process though. Other than those two options, you could look into a cheaper inkjet printer. Unfortunately, I don't have much experience with any so I couldn't give you a recommendation. But I'm sure there are some out there in the £200ish range that would do a decent job. Again, all comes down to your needs.
maybe I'm looking in the wrong spot but I can't find half those papers in just the print section on the website. I like the hahna paper and would love to see it before I get it framed. Either way great vid man thanks!
So important to print photographs. It gives them the life they are deprived of as a digital file. I've gone the whole hog and created a C-type RA-4 darkroom. Good paper is hard to get as Kodak have pulled out the market and Fujifilm have increased prices wildly. But my local lab (Ag Photolab) can source rolls for me, and the Adox and Bellini chemicals are fairly widespread. In a world of AI and digital enhancements a complete analogue process is kind of soul cleansing.
@@KyleMcDougall Its as exciting as learning to master photography. I finally feel like a craftsman, an artist. Something I never truly felt taking the photo and leaving the rest to labs or my computer.
I think Matte paper for film photography, especially B&W film, is a goated combination, it’s really nice. That being said, I love the grainy texture and the depth I get out of Canon’s brand of Pro Lustre paper, it’s really pretty and reproduces contrast very well without making it too much more vibrant, not to mention it works seamlessly with a Canon printer. Just started printing, I have a few sample packs of Hahnemuhle smooth fine art and textured fine art paper and I’ve printed on some of it and liked most of the paper I’ve printed on so far, framed one picture I did and it frames really nicely.
UK printing peeps shout out: have you found any photo papers that are recyclable? HP has a glossy photo paper, in A3 and A4 size (no A3+ or larger) that works with non-HP printers, provided they can ingest the thickness of paper. I'd rather print on other paper types besides glossy, so any recyclable paper tips A3, and A3+, are welcomed, thanks!
Nice video - sorry if you've covered in a previous video, but why do you opt for non-darkroom prints? Not any judgement, just wondering what you're reasons are. Since doing some darkroom stuff last year I've only wanted to print that way as it's great fun!
I’m using White Wall regularly. Good quality but unfortunately absolutely horrible UX, and if you’re in Germany you must use German site, and German is the only language.
Hi! We are sorry to hear that you're not satisfied with our UX. Could you please let us know what exactly you mean and we will work on this. Thank you!
I couldn't imagine not printing my photos. I hang them everywhere in my house, I think you should always be your own favourite artist and celebrate your own talent and skills
i have so much of my work printed and hung around the apartment.. i'm usually embarrassed by it though but this was the gas up i needed
Fan of Hahnemuhle Photo Rag as well. Another good Hahnemuhle paper to check out is William Turner. It has a stronger texture and more of a matte finish that looks like canvas. Works well with images containing fine detail and textures.
I'll have to try that one out in the future.
Hahnemuhle Fine Art Baryta is my favorite paper stock, hands down.
I can see why, Tom. Such a nice paper.
So glad to see you continue pushing the 'print your photos' narrative. I try and tell every and any hobbyist who asks me about my work to go print their own as it really is such a great feeling. It truly transforms it.
If you have a chance, try and get a print on Canson's Baryta Prestige paper. My last exhibition was done on that paper and I've been completely won over! It feels more like a semi-gloss and the texture is there but not overtly aggressive. And that barium sulphate highlight shine is... Bueno!
I actually used that paper for one print in the last video, and I agree, it's really nice!
Couldn't agree more on the importance of printing. These videos on printing were very nice! Cheers from Greece!
Thanks, Chris!
I have always said "you are not a photographer until you print your photographs". Literally to me everything is about the print, the camera I own to the printer I use, it is always about that finished product that gets nailed to the wall. It drives my Photo-friends nuts when I get a Fuji GFX because it will help me make better prints, and I am not bothered about speed and spec's.
It was really interesting and helpful to see how different papers affect a photograph, thank you for that. I personally love two Epson papers and I use them all the time. Epson Exhibition Fiber, it is a wonderful semi-gloss smooth paper. The second favourite is toss up either Epson Hot Press Bright or Legacy Fiber for my mat papers. All three of these papers are wonderful with Black and White, especially the Exhibition Fiber. I have always been impressed with Hahnemule and Canson papers, I enjoy experimenting with them. I have always printed my own, I like the control of the final product. That said any thing bigger than 16x20 always gets sent out to the pro labs. I will have to try out that C- type it very interesting.
Cheers, Drew! So many different paper options to choose from, which is part of the fun!
Thank you so much Kyle for this video, since the last one I looked into whitewall and couldn't decide on the paper and methods.
Since I'm in France I guess I can receive the prints fast enough. I think they can print small sizes for a small price so one can choose easily.
So thanks again every single of your video. It's a pleasure every time. Gorgeous content.
Glad you enjoyed this one!
The black floating frame look is super nice. Love that image too 👌
Fabulous video, I print at home a few times a week but it's nice to have a professional option that comes recommended by someone I trust.
Cheers, Morris. Glad you enjoyed!
Great work. Thanks for the effort. These videos helps a lot
Glad you enjoyed. Cheers.
Been looking forward this follow up. I had a print done on the Hahnemuhle William Turner paper really loved how it turned out. Will be getting my next print framed
Cheers, Benjamin. I've heard good things about that paper.
The maxima is the best paper i have ever used for color, the colors, depth and detail are incredible, it does need test proofs and color profiles to make accurate colors, the sharpening tho seems very close to a screen, so just make it look good on your computer and it’ll look good on the print, no need to exaggerate sharpening like on other papers., and the ultra gloss isn’t really a problem once it’s behind good coated glass, that way it looks truly stunning (altho all papers benefit from that glass besides the ultra matt ones).
The fuji silk is really weird, i used that surface on fp100c some years ago, and I found it quite weird, but the other three WW have are regular surfaces and quite good. The ilford one can get really really nice blacks, you just need to edit the file so they print that way, and you really should try the baryta ilford paper, it’s basically the same as darkroom printing, and the inkjet one can’t truly compare to it, altho they try their best to imitate it.
Inkjets are convenient and you can get good results without proofing quite easily, but the depth a good ctype gives when you edit for it is amazing. Too bad kodak has ceized production, as their paper was noticeably warmer than fuji’s, which as you said can get quite cold in tone.
Thanks for sharing this. Yeah, I can see the c-types shining with proper proofing. As mentioned in the video, was interesting to not adjust/proof and see how all of the papers look. I think I'll have to try some c-type with proofing in the future. Especially the baryta.
Hey Kyle. Thanks for this. These are the videos that need to be made. Excellent presentation and as always, great work.
Glad you enjoyed this one, Lawrence. Cheers.
This is extremely helpful. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
You're welcome. Cheers!
Thanks very much for this one. I’d never heard of that company until you mentioned them in one of your other videos. Assuming they ship to the United States, I’m most definitely going to have to try them out.
I used them often when I was in Canada. Shipping was always very good.
@@KyleMcDougall Great to know! Thank you. I'll use your link on my first order with them. Also, thanks for printing on all those papers as, based on your results and what I am looking for to print my Hasselblad and Leica work, I'm planning to use Hahnemühle Fineart Baryta for prints and Fine art print on aluminum dibond (using again the Hahnemühle Fineart Baryta) for some gifts I want to prepare for csome family members.
Nice video very informative, I have my own printer for producing my work, what I like to do is rotate my images on my walls so that when people come over they always see different sets of images and as a working Fashion portrait photographer in Los Angeles I’m always creating new images so it’s cost-effective to print my own work!
I like the idea of rotating images.
Most of the time (not always) I prefer matte paper over glossy paper. They look so elegant and is more subtle but still produces wonderful colors.
I could see it growing on me.
I tried to get some of mime printed at wall greens and oh boy 😅
Thank you! great video!!
On the subject of printing, I have a question about print sizes. I resently made a print for someone as a friendly gesture, my first thought was to make the print as big as possible. But when I saw the final print it looked to big for the subject matter. Any thoughts about choosing print sizes ? I know this is subjective and depended of how the print is shown, but any pointers would be helpful.
I think a big thing is just thinking of where / how it will be displayed. Not everything needs to be printed large. I would go on a case-by-case basis depending on how it will be used.
any suggestion for someone who want to start printing photos at home on a medium low budget? like what kind of printer and paper? thank you.
Yes don’t do it, if you skimp on the printer you will never be happy with your prints, and even if you go and buy an ok to nice printer, with the amount of money you put upfront you could have had it printed somewhere by people who know what they are doing.
Tlr.: skip the headache and the long time savings of doing it yourself are pretty small
This really all depends on what your end goal is. Are you looking to sell those prints, or simply just starting to learn more about printing? If you want to sell them and aren't going to be doing large volumes, I'd recommend using a lab. A professional printer that doesn't get used much can get finicky. I've had issues in the past with ink nozzles clogging. Nowadays I've switched to doing all my printing with a lab. But, if you simply want to start seeing your work printed, you could always get a small printer like the Canon Selphy, which is great to make 4x6 work prints which can help with building out projects. That isn't an inkjet, and won't teach you much about the technical aspects of the printing process though. Other than those two options, you could look into a cheaper inkjet printer. Unfortunately, I don't have much experience with any so I couldn't give you a recommendation. But I'm sure there are some out there in the £200ish range that would do a decent job. Again, all comes down to your needs.
Very helpful. What size paper were you showing when you were going through the different paper types?
The image size was 13x16"
maybe I'm looking in the wrong spot but I can't find half those papers in just the print section on the website. I like the hahna paper and would love to see it before I get it framed. Either way great vid man thanks!
Kyle, who is your hat dealer. I must know. 10/10 hats. Photos also very good.
Haha, I'll let my buddy know. This is one from his production company.
I’d also like to know!!
So important to print photographs. It gives them the life they are deprived of as a digital file. I've gone the whole hog and created a C-type RA-4 darkroom. Good paper is hard to get as Kodak have pulled out the market and Fujifilm have increased prices wildly. But my local lab (Ag Photolab) can source rolls for me, and the Adox and Bellini chemicals are fairly widespread. In a world of AI and digital enhancements a complete analogue process is kind of soul cleansing.
That is one thing that I'd like to do at some point-darkroom printing.
@@KyleMcDougall Its as exciting as learning to master photography. I finally feel like a craftsman, an artist. Something I never truly felt taking the photo and leaving the rest to labs or my computer.
Kyle, I like the image but I'm not liking the vertical streaks on the right side of the B&W prints.
he shoulda turned off the rain smh
Yeah I noticed those, over the derelict building
As mentioned, it's rain. :)
Very interesting - thank you..
I think Matte paper for film photography, especially B&W film, is a goated combination, it’s really nice. That being said, I love the grainy texture and the depth I get out of Canon’s brand of Pro Lustre paper, it’s really pretty and reproduces contrast very well without making it too much more vibrant, not to mention it works seamlessly with a Canon printer. Just started printing, I have a few sample packs of Hahnemuhle smooth fine art and textured fine art paper and I’ve printed on some of it and liked most of the paper I’ve printed on so far, framed one picture I did and it frames really nicely.
Nice. Yeah, I could see matte papers growing on me, with the right image. Something I want to experiment with more moving forward.
My god, that green Buick and red tail light... 🥲♥
White Wall is very very exspensive
UK printing peeps shout out: have you found any photo papers that are recyclable? HP has a glossy photo paper, in A3 and A4 size (no A3+ or larger) that works with non-HP printers, provided they can ingest the thickness of paper. I'd rather print on other paper types besides glossy, so any recyclable paper tips A3, and A3+, are welcomed, thanks!
Does anyone know how the film simulation classic crome is made. ? Except from Fuji?
Canson rives is the best paper.
Nice video - sorry if you've covered in a previous video, but why do you opt for non-darkroom prints? Not any judgement, just wondering what you're reasons are. Since doing some darkroom stuff last year I've only wanted to print that way as it's great fun!
What border size did you get
Can you please recommend a good printer to buy?
I just tried your code on whitewall but it says it’s invalid 😢
I’m using White Wall regularly. Good quality but unfortunately absolutely horrible UX, and if you’re in Germany you must use German site, and German is the only language.
Hi! We are sorry to hear that you're not satisfied with our UX. Could you please let us know what exactly you mean and we will work on this. Thank you!