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- The Turian race created C-sec and joined the galactic Council, but they only got where they are by decimating others and bending them to their will.
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I love that in a galaxy filled with metallic cops, psychic tentacle monsters, super genius lizards, and nearly invincible battle turtles, the most terrifying creature is a human with unlimited freedom and some friends.
Just to explain the First Contact war a little more accurately.
Humans, at this point not being aware of other alien races, were attempting to activate an inactive Mass Relay which is illegal via council law, which of course Humanity had no way of knowing. A Turian ship came across the humans doing this, and instead of communicating they attacked the human vessels believing them to just be pirates or smugglers (or something similar). One of the human ships escaped thus began the First Contact War.
The Council called it a War. Humans (at the time) considered it a skirmish. In Mass Effect: Revelation, there's some additional details that gives reason for the Council to be scared of humanity. Apparently other races have 20-30% of their population in the military while humans only have 3%. In their first tussle with the turians, the dedicated military arm of the galactic civilization, they broke even with them, causing the Council to intervene before it could break out into a full scale war (by human reckoning). And then in the 30 years since the First Contact War, humans have already expanded out to large chunks of the galaxy, including the Terminus System, where it took others hundreds, if not thousands of years to do the same.
It's a lot of detail unfortunately left out of the games that just makes the Council look like a bunch of human haters and not legitimately scared of a race that did so much with so little and in such a short amount of time.
@@MaxUltimata People often hate what they are afraid of, and for good reason, fuck them aliens, this my galaxy now.
I may be compleatly wrong since I’m not that well read on the lore (only some odd details outside the basic stuff) but didn’t the humans also fight the batarians during the first contact war? Also a sidenote I may have forgotten to feed my fishies time and again but I never forget to salute commander space hamster (which for some reason I usually refer to as mouse). I purposefully call him commander to in my mind piss off ashley with giving him a higher rank than her, cuz fuck Ashley
@@lucask.aasgaard2880 It wasn't during the First Contact War. When humans expanded into the Skyllian Verge on the edge of Citadel Space, batarians complained to the Council and tried to get exclusive rights to the sector. When that failed, they closed their embassy and engaged in an aggressive seizure of the sector by attacking Elysium, the oldest human colony in the Verge, with a fleet of mercenaries and pirates in what is known as the Skyllian Blitz. Regardless of your chosen background, Commander Shepard participated in the Blitz.
@@MaxUltimata Ahhh thought the skyllian bliz happened while the first contact war was still going. Thanks for the clarification tho, feel like i need to get invested more in the lore now and that's a perfect exuse to get start a new playtrough of the trilogy lol. I salute you my good sir!
Favorite Turian quote:
Shepard: "I should let you go."
Turian: "'Let me go?' Do humans view conversation as a form of imprisonment? That would explain why so few are willing to sit and talk."
Humans were trying to activate a relay, this was forbidden since thise led to the rachni wars so the Turians started shooting, then they followed the human survivors back to a colony world and started a little bit of an orbital bombardment, then more humans showed up and the Turians were like "wait, this isn't your home planet?" but then the humans blew up the Turian ships.
basically.
opening fire on engineer ships without warning is a war crime in human standards trhe turians by human standards comitted several war crimes
First contact war was a massive fuck up on both the Turian heirachy and the Earth Alliance, joke like the first contact war between Earth Aliamce and the Minbari.
@@ARGHouse504 turian hierarchy yes. Human government no
@@ARGHouse504 Everyone in-game except for a couple butthurt turians acknowledges that the 1st Contact War was 100% the fault of the turians. The Council did and the turian Hierarchy even paid reparations to the humans.
My favorite Garrus moment is when you read his kills in the Shadow Broker DLC and he killed a Quarian serial killer with a cough. Also every kill was a headshot
And he apparently uses his Visor to play music in combat... naturally he most commonly listens to the Turian National Anthem but he also likes some of the stuff you need to mention to maintain Morinth's interest during Samara's Loyalty.
Shout out to Garrus, my favorite space velociraptor.
he really is your bro through thick and thin. big shout out to the brolociraptor
Garrus really is a bro and chad shout out our brolociraptor
Garrus is my favorite Battle-Chicken
Shout out to Velociraptors, my favourite Earth Turians.
Shout out to Garruk, my favorite Interdimensional Viking Monster Puncher
The thing about Star Wars is a bit misleading though.
Alot of the well known Planets there are one-biom because thats what the technology for the OT allowed them to do. In the Prequels, outside of Geonosis, that problem doesn't exist. (and the sequels then have it again cause Abrams is a uncreative hack)
Additionally, George put a *shitload* of thought into a load of aspects, to the point were he asked the animators to switch out specific Weapons or Ships in The Clone Wars because he wanted to imply things 90% of the audience wouldn't notice.
To say that he didn't care about background-info or finer details is just wrong.
This is totally true, and I love the star wars universe immensely, it's just a shame that the mass effect universe isn't able to be expanded like the star wars one has...
...What kinda alternate universe are you talking about? Naboo, Tatooine, Coruscant, Kamino, Geonosis, Utapau, Kashyyyk, and Mustafar were all single-biome planets. That's the list of every single planet we see for more than a minute over those three movies.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 Naboo had grasslands, mountains, swamps, oceans and forests. All just in Episode 1.
For Kashyyyk we saw the coast-regions in EpIII, specifically because it was already known most of the Planet was either mountains or Forest and they wanted some Variety. To see those other parts, look at supplementary material, like Republic Commando.
Tatooine was already established, that doesn't count.
Coruscant is a Ecumenopolis, that's not a natural Biom and doesn't count.
There's also Saleucami, were several different kinds of Biomes were designed, then one used in the Film (the desert-regions) and the others eventually in other material (Savannas & forests, respectively).
Oh and Alderaan. Mountains, plains and oceans.
@@ironvader502 Are you kidding me? You allow supplementary material in to justify the prequels but discount it for the sequels, and claim the biome of 'fertile valleys' to be three different biomes just to-
Tatooine has massive seas of sand, rocky mountains and dry valleys. It's as varied as Adleraan (mountains, valleys, and oceans), and Naboo (deep water, cliffs, and swamps). If Tatooine is mono-biomed, Naboo, and Adleraan are too.
Coruscant doesn't stop being a mono biome just because they wrote 'city' instead of 'desert' or 'valley' or 'waterside.'
You have to press down on one end of the scales to make this look anything close to reasonable.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 I'm not discounting anything for the Sequels because there *IS NOTHING* that expands on any of their planets in any meaningfull way. The only "supplementary material" for the Sequels so far is Resistance, which barely offered anything in that regard at all. Everything about them is painfully underdeveloped, even the few novels they have spent way too much time tryint to just find justifications why everything in the galaxy is back to Square one after 30 years.
Most of the different Environment for the Prequels had been developed for the Movies, especially for EpIII. Either for scenes meant for Order 66 that didn't end up being used (or extended versions of scenes that were) or for a different opening that was supposed to show the Republic attacking a bunch of different Separatist Worlds, which ended up being scrapped in favour of the Battle of Coruscant. But they were still developed for the Movies, and some were also *in* the movies in unfinished, preliminary Cuts. That the public only got to see them later on when their concepts were reused doesn't change that.
Naboo has more than "deep water, cliffs and swamps". Just in Episode 1 we saw two to three different kinds of Forest and Grasslands on top of those, then in Episode 2 also inland lakes and beaches.
The slight overbite they have with how their armor molded itself just makes all of their faces adorable to me.
I agree with this.
>:3
Also I really like how much emotion they can convey with their 'jaws' specifically the 2 side pieces that's unique to them being separately movable.
Fist instance that really hit me is Nihlus in the comm room doing it like a ticking way. Like my father used to always grind his back teeth with intense thought in a serious situation wich give of a weird pulsating effect at the back of the jaws. Same nonverbal message and 'emotional state' shown on a different physiology.
And the other latest is in Andromeda, with Vetra moving them on a larger slover movement. Like a jawdrop of "D'awww" and blushing. Turians can't physically blush, but damn it I recognize a turian blushing and it's so F'in' adorable.
They look like saber tooth tigers to me, hence cute.
I love that when you take the paragon option and miss the shot, Garrus will start gloating and will say "I'm Garrus Vakarian and this is my favorite spot on the citadel." since thats phrase is essentially what you can say as an add they'll record for literally every shop to get a discount.
And such is the phrase I would shout as a proud Turian in his boots.
Edit: with my own name of course. If i would have reached his level of calibration I would nearly ascend to maybe god adjacent.
“Space opera” flashbacks to Mordin Solus singing to shepherd
"I am the very model of a Scientist Salarian!"
I save the council because I am a spiteful person who spent the rest of the games holding it over them that I was right the entire time and they should just get out of my way.
when ever i play fem shep, i always do the same. so satisfying when you shut them up
Same but I also always save the council because there’s a longer space battle cutscene and longer space battles are always better
For me I saved the council not to save them but the Destiny Ascension, I haven't finished Mass Effect 3 but I hope that ship will be useful in the final battle.
I do that too, but I make it a point that I saved them not because they're the council, but to show that humanity is BETTER than they are. They would have gladly let the council die, especially the turians.
I also hang up on the council at every opportunity because I have stuff to do
I wished there was a paragon interrupt to break the "turian" "councilor" "Sparatus'" stupid fingers when he came to Udina's office with the audacity to beg us to save his planet. Asshole, if it were up to me I would put you and your buddies on trial for gross negligence and have you executed, but for now enjoy the smell of 5 million fried turians per day.
A bit heartbroken that First Contact war was just a a mention, it was my favorite part of the lore back when I played the game.
I remember it going something like this:
1. Primitives Primates (Humans) discover a Mass Relay in Mars., and activate it.
2. The space cops (Turians) go to investigate, they find a bunch of chimps playing around with technology they don't understand and proceed to eliminate them.
3. (Don't remember the bit about the one ship escaping) The Human Nations put their differences aside and send the whole planet's fleet to take out these aliens.
4. The Turians battle cruiser is destroyed.
5. The Turians learn of their loss and prepare for a full out war, they send out their fleet.
6. The council intervenes, stops the Turians and communicates with the humans.
7. Humans join the intergalactic civilization and the Turians hold a grudge against them for destroying their cruiser and being welcomed in, instead of being punished.
Just this incident alone could be a cool game.
Humans were discovering more relays and were just activating them haphazardly, unbeknownst to them, it was illegal as decreed by the council, because they deactivated them during the rachni wars. The turians were afraid that this “primitive” species would cause a lot of damage and instead of communicating, they just simply fired upon the ships
I think the relay was orbiting Pluto not Mars, they found ruins on Mars that lead them to the relay
@@gamingnerd3476 they didn't deactivate them. The council were activating relays willy nilly before the rachni wars, and every inactive relay remained inactive after the war.
I also love how Shepard has to intentionally miss because of how much of a fucking badass they are
13:04 I just love how awkward Garrus is while he's trying to use that to flirt with FemShep in Mass Effect 2 at the culmination of their romance. "So, your, uh, hair looks nice and your waist is... very supportive."
Marader Shields wasn't the final boss. He was a hero who died trying to save us from witnessing the horrible ending
He is hard as F. I've only defeated him once (well, it's better than seeing space brat)
It was pointed out to me that in the first game, the twist is that Saren wasn't the master mind. He was Darth Vader, and the Death Star was the fucking Emperor.
The "Death Star was the fucking Emperor" daaamn, you killed me with that line. But also the Death Star is Cthulu and the Terminator at the same time, and is just one of many.
Keep calm, and the turians shot first. Seriously they didn't like us messing with the relay so opened fire.
There is only 2 efficient forces in that universe, one is Shepard, the other is the Mako.
Last boss of ME3: Marauder Shields....
30 seconds before: Shepard gets glassed by Harbringer and walks it of...
i love to think that Marauder Shields is actually Nihlus
You hate star wars, but Star Wars was the first to really put effort into a space themed story.
Star Wars walked so mass effect could run.
Just because star wars started something doesn't mean they perfect it.
I like star wars and most sci fi movies and games.
However Star wars is far from perfect if your not into rebels and the media and books around it.
However it does not mean that someone can take from the idea and write out a more flushed out "better version".
I hate PUBG but I love warzone and it doesn't mean that PuBG is a bad game but I think warzone made it better, even if PUBG is the reason Battle royals games are popular because of PUBG
@@m4taylor780 hence why they said
"Star Wars walked so Mas Effect could run"
star wars wasnt the first. star trek pre-dates it. and i think valerian too.
doesn't make it good reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@@namekman01 Yyup, Star Trek, Dune and Valerian all predates Star Wars.
And Lucas got a crapton of inspiration from the Valerian comics, then obv. the mehh Valerian movie gets accused of copying Star Wars. Tho Besson 100% copied the Mass Effect title font for the Valerian movie title font.
But Star Wars did brought sci-fi out of the closet and to the mainstream. Wich is integral to other teams seeing it as a good venture.
mass effect trilogy aliens: super detailed morphology, with unique features, each one feels like its own separate species
mass effect andromeda aliens: eh, whatever
Good thing they are just gonna pretend andromeda never happened
And the remaster comes out in a couple days
@@coredefect6134 remaster will have censored scenes, buyer beware
have you even played Andromeda? because that is bullshit. people always compare Andromeda to the whole Shepard trilogy which is so not fair.
Super late to this party but as much as I love mass effect I can’t ever put aside the massive plot hole that is the Asari counselor.
She really is everywhere
You would’ve seen a female Turian in the ME3 multiplayer, as there are certain characters, such as the Turian assassin that can fire razor poison rounds from a gauntlet on her arm.
i love to think that Marauder Shields is actually Nihlus
I love how you create a mood board of the entire video behind you as the video progresses
In Star Wars, there are some planets that do have multiple climates
Naboo has large plains, forests, swamps, and oceans. Alderan has some plains and forests as well, along with having seasons like winter
but yes, alot of planets only have one climate
Imagine if the Turians clashed with the Klingons, man that would be a conflict and a half..
i feel like krogans vs klingons would be more fun and turians vs romulans too
@@Etherian87 fair enough though the encounters would be interesting.
The toryans? A truly frightening race indeed
On the citadel you can find a store that sells an auto feeder for a few hundred, or thousand, credits.
I got Mass Effect legendary edition for my birthday. When I got Garrus in the team, I didn't think much of him and just stuck with Wrex and Tali. Then I started playing Mass Effect 2 and then I started to realize how much of a bad ass he is.
Turian military protocol:
1. Fuck around
2. Find out
I still remember playing ME2 for the first time and finding out arkangel is garrus fkin epic
Wrex mentions that Turians and Quarians are more resistant to damage than Humans, Salarians or Asari.
You all are fabulous, you brighten my day with fun facts, thank you
I like how Mass Effect throws established stereotypes out the window. The Turian heirachy are assholes, like a lot of human politicians, there are a lot of good Turians though like Garrus, Nyx and Nyreen who have wicked humour and strong ethical back plates. Also thanks for em was assets.
There are also fuckwit level Turians who join the Blue Suns and I’m quite happy to pop their helmets, those ones I am quite happy to throw them against the Reapers as cannon fodder.
Lots of in-game stereotypes being broken in Mass Effect. Wrex and Grunt are insightful and none of asari in Shepard's team are wishy-washy bimbos. Most viciously villainous character after Reapers is asari as well.
Buy the robot that feeds your fish, never understood why the hamster thing survives
I play on PC so I've modded the shit out of my games. Earlier this year an enterprising modder released a mod that I have been waiting for since 2012. The FemShep Appearance Consistency Mod. They managed to backport the ME3 default femshep into the first two games. Now my femshep looks great (and indeed consistent) across the trilogy.
I played a Shepard that was mostly paragon but also didn't take shit from anyone
for me its all renegade except when its in regards to a character i like
Always play Paragon, but always headbutt the Krogan because that's the best way to get their respect, and punch the reporter, because we're tired of her disingenuous assertions
Saving the council in one is pointless because they act like dbags anyway, in fact if you let them die I think you get a little more respect from the new guys
The fact that markings denote which colony a Turian comes from probably comes from the military of the German Empire during WW1. Soldiers would have two badges on their hats, the colours of the German Empire itself and another showing the colours of the state they came from (Prussia, Bavaria, Saxony, etc)
"Its so metal that that tattoo where they from"
Sadly for humans it would be less cool if it reads LONDON on your forhead
I wanna replay Mass Effect now.
13:59 Also just flirt with Kelly Chambers until she offers to feed them.
I've played 4-5 time over the entire trilogy during lock down, I played default the first time, then I found my niche in engineer male Shep with more paragon, and romancing Tali, after a bit of fiddling with the customization, and I've gotten the survive ending to ME3 every time after the first one.
Oof.. Starship Troopers was a book first, and is very good. The bugs started the war with orbital bombardment wiping millions of humans out of existence in one attack.
It really pisses me off that people assume that the book and the movie are even remotely similar. Veerhoven tried to portray them as space Nazis when they're exactly the opposite in the book.
@@literalsarcasm1830 and even in the movie he fail at that.
@@literalsarcasm1830 That's because Veerhoven wrote them as heroes, but they're actually awful. Veerhoven just had some weird ideas and upon examination people realised the federation are pretty bad.
@@mitchwilliamson5552 in the movie, perhaps. But the book is completely different.
@@literalsarcasm1830 My bad, I was saying Veerhoeven when what I meant to say is Heinlein, the author. I had mixup because I read Verhoeven in your post.
In Heinlein's work, despite the fact tbat they're the "good guys" in the book, the hyper jingoist and fascist society depicted in the book has had many criticisms. While Heinlein promoted them as a great society, many readers noticed that they're nazi like.
Verhoeven shared this opinion, and his depiction while satirical was only an exaggerated view of the book.
The interesting thing is that if you look at our solar system, Earth is pretty much the only multibiome planet, at best Mars is 2 biome, (desert and arctic) and all other planets are single biome, so really you could argue single biome planets are "normal" and Earth and Mars are freaks
Currently also replaying Mass Effect. So it's nice this just poped up on my feed
Legend says, Karl is still taking about mass effect to this day.
You people are the reason I played mass effect
Funnily enough it was the TURIANS who initiated war between themselves and humanity, not humanity attacking the turians
I love how the camera got bored of the conversation and was just like "Yeah I'm done, you don't pay me enough for this"
thank you for keeping me that much more sane during quarantine btw.
The thing about Saren is he was an ass but he thought he was going to save some organics. Then he got indoctrinated over time.
Their outro music reminds me of the old racing game Sega Gt 2002. If I remember correctly this badass racing game had like jazz music in the menu
Can I watch this video later, I'm in the middle of some calibrations.
In the third game their is an auto feeder for your fish. Not sure if you knew that.
So many opportunities to start other trilogies in the universe
4:55 the Turians shot first
Thank you... i've just downloaded the ME Trilogy again thanks to this video.....insanely good game, so can't wait to lose days and days to this again 😊😊💯💯
Turain skin does not have any ballistic protection. It is even written in the Codex
To this day I am pissed I couldn't romance Garrus as male Shep. Had a man crush the entire time and couldn't do anything about it.
It is so weird hearing my name so often in a fact fiend video.
I hope you guys do a video of the Quarians eventually
tali is best girl
I feel like the Turians are the same race as the Prawns from District 9 or at least from the same system
I love Garrus so much it’s unreal
I know I'm late but you said graphic novel for starship troopers. I don't know if that exists but the book Heinlein wrote is probably my favorite book of all time. You should read it because it is very good and you will understand that the reference to the army in the book is actually quite a compliment. The total war only aspect isn't very conducive towards likening to the book though.
I agree with the Salarians, surprise away, not about the Krogans.
auto fish feeder
To be fair, most planets in our universe are likely single biome. Earth is an outlier.
Yeah but those planets don't have life.
One thing that always bugged me about ME1is that the lore states that Turians have a thing about other turians with no face markings. They believe them to be untrustworthy and with no honor. And then Saren(?) comes along and just proves their point. And they never mention any of it. That really seemed like a potentially huge thing that never amounted to anything.
Are the gonna stream a playthorough of mass effect legendary edition?
Why the the turriens ship look like a gun?
The toothbrush chick, talk her into chess, after that if you talk to her she'll keep them alive. Just dont let her die lol
In a game where with enough paragon you can talk saren down to fighting the reapers
How can he be completely dishonorably
I know this is months old but read mass effect comics, Saren is pretty evil. But he’s a spectre(?) so everything is hush hush.
we need one for the asari and salarians now, Right?
I hate it when a game tries to force a best friend or love interest, etc.
Always found Garrus extremely boring and forced.
Give me Wrex, Samara, Mordin or Vega, etc. as a best friend.
actually it was the turions that fired first because the humans where trying to activate the mass relay
I'm pretty sure you can get someone to feed your fish for you either kelly or your love interest I don't remember lol
I need to replay the whole series again yes I played soldier on my very first playthrough of the entire series
vanguard renegade for life my dude
@@commandershepard9312 why engineer never gets the love it deserves, I will never know. Why try to take everything on yourself when you can adopt a method of putting more and more guns in the field? If it worked for the Russians, it can work for me.
@@samreid6010 i can understand why people like engineer, personally i just prefer to be up close and personal in combat, its more fun for me
Marauder Shields will be remembered.
I always thought the turians got based off crab like features
As far as I know Turian is basically taking a hawk, scaling it back in evolution toward a raptor, but a bit more humanoid. Then add anti-radiatin scales/carapace. Yyup, that carapace is reminiscent of a crab/insectoid chitin exoskeleton, but should be more in line of a bulkier dinosaur's skin.
Live the insectoid to the protheans
For some reason I thought they looked cat like.... I don't know why..
But it is why as FemShep (best Shep), I romanced Garrus.
Who else refuses to miss that shot?
If you want to win, then win. I refuse to simply hand victory to anyone. I'll handicap myself; but you are carrying your own ass over the finish line.
Yet humans survived the first contact war.
I love the Turian. :)
Why don’t they do a podcast? Seriously it would make it so much easier for them to make content but with the same outcome and quality. The visuals are cool and all but they really aren’t necessary.
They have a podcast im sure
The original book of starship troopers is entirely different to the films though and the guy who made the first film admitted he never read the book.
Also female Turians are hot, in their own way, well defined face plates.
u should do a video about the asari
Lol how badly you messed up first contact
No humans didnt open fire lol turians opened fire on civilian engineering ships from a neer by colony then chased the ships back to the colony and carried on their range of war crimes by orbital bombarding cities and starbing civilians their first goal was to break the civilian population to force the army into surendering for the sake of their people as in a literal war crime
I always save the council, there is more people in the destiny ascention than in the aliance ships that got destroyed.
Got here after finding out about the ME trilogy remaster
Be fair the old man winston in John wick 3 shot him to leave him alive
The terions are by far my favorite race there so cool
Click the link and go off on a 45 minute lore dump for Mass Effect. I'm okay with this.
Now do another one on the Yahg
Could listen for another several hours of just you two BSing about this fantastic game series/world. I hope to see you stream the upcoming Legendary update, especially the 1st of the series. That will be especially awesome.
The voice of the main speaker is so low in this one.
It’s so funny being female Sheppard, and sleep with this companion, and he is like are you shure? my species has a much larger physical make than your use to. 😂😂 I cant remember exactly but yea too big hehehe
Ddo quarians next