Well done the 2 legged ones plus the added calming effect of the beautiful 4 legged ones. Rich and Ewa from On The Road really rated these boxes on the Voge bikes they rode in the torrential rain . Very impressed with the look of them. May they serve you for many fun adventures in the future. Stay safe and happy folks.
I bought a mounting plate and adv top box off Ali Express, only £100, lined with a pocket in the lid, and it has been perfect. The box is easy on/off and rock solid.
Used Uncle Wang for my Benelli TRK 702, and I agree. It’s great kit well made and it’s a lot cheaper than other places. I was happy to wait 4-6 weeks for delivery too.
Good effort. When fitted mainstands in the past I've sometimes fitted the springs to the stand first, then pulled on the stand. It's much easier to get hold of and someone can pull on each side. But, well done. Ride safe 👍
Another really nice video. The whole team did great on fitting Bella for her big adventures. As this summer (after a camping trip with my husband and his aluminium boxes), I decided to go aluminium panniers for my Tracer 700 (was so fed up with having to hold everything in my plastic ones to not have all of the camping gear fall out). Got a really good deal on SW Motech lightly used side panniers. The Chinese counterpart would have been about the same. But for a top box (really always had trouble fitting anything proper in my plastic one), I could not find a used one SW Motech for a decent price. So I decided, after a lot of research to cave in and got one a Chinese model off amazon. I was so very pleased with it! Great quality. My liner has white stitching lines, on the pics it looked a bit...gaudy, to be honest. But in real life, I really like it, protects anything nicely. The only thing I will change that I will add closing flaps to my lid pockets. Really love your pannier liners. Might have a look whether these are available separately. Or make them myself? Should be doable.
The support brackets that connect to the bobbins on your paddock stand are on the wrong side and need to be swapped. It will make life easier and safer.
Yep the spring installation for the main stand is a lot of work 😅. Mine have been sitting for almost a month before I got all the right tools I needed to install it and yes ratchet strap also did the trick for me. Grats
Christmas came early for you Charlie😁Centre stand springs are notoriously difficult to fit, I did a few in my day and lost a lot of skin and maybe said some swear words😉Bella is looking magnificent all dressed up now👌Lack of instructions is a pain but you got there, great work by Master Jay👍
No. It looked like the springs were fitted through a T shaped plate with two short slots on either side with a longer slot down the middle on the frame end. This plate looked like it had been fitted the wrong way around. Which meant that the springs would have to be stretched further than intended. I hope this helps.
No they are definitely the right way around. The narrow end of the teardrop shaped hole has to go on to the peg. The other way around is way too slack. Thanks for your input though.
Nice registration plate Charlie. Nice luggage, protection bars and a centre stand. Don't forget to jack up the preload when you have filled those boxes.
He's certainly got buckets of engineering and bike knowledge, enjoys a puzzle and is pretty patient 😊 ( I did have to check that your comment wasn't from him tho!)
With the dogs scrutinizing the humans handy work, like they say on the A-Team...it all came together!!😂😂 The bike looks awesome... regards from Wroughton 👍👍👍
Looks great Charlie, ready for the next adventure. You are so lucky with Jay as your friend. Taking calmly his time and finding out what to fit where without throwing tools around your garage :) Fitting springs on a center stand are always a pain in the....behind. The panniers look good. Nice pockets in the lids for small items. Looking forward to your next trip. Take care, drive safely!!
Hi Charlie and Jay Looks good quality (nothing wrong with things made in China), fits well and you both got a mental workout thrown in for free. Outstanding 👍👍
Fab video. New parts are always very exciting - even the dogs looked pleased! Might nip out on Maggie (Himmy 450) tomorrow for a bit. Will be lowering her soon and putting heated grips on. I need to book a proper adventure too. Take care and ride safe 😎
Hi Charlie, Well, that is amazing, Great, looking set up, plus the pockets on the inside of the panniers Are great. Jay has a lot of patience for fitting things like that though you have an awesome looking and functioning adventure bike looking forward to your next video. Thank you.
Thanks for the video appreciated. I am hopefully going to have a sit on the MT450 at the NEC bike show in a couple of weeks. I don't have a local dealer so it'll be my first look. All the accessories you fitted are what I would be after. You have an awesome friend there to help with the install top man. Take care..
Nice too get some gear on the bike even if it took a fair bit of fettling. I'm not a huge fan of top boxes or hard luggage for that matter but it looks the part an hopefully your happy with it. Cheers for sharing Charlie
The doggies look cute. Where are they going to sit? Uncle Wang's accessories look rather impressive. My only concern is that the bike is now the width of a pantechnican (furniture removals lorry).
I really like the bike and accessories. I’m downsizing from my beloved BMW 1200GS as I’m 75 now and could use a lighter/lower bike. CFMoto, NX500, Himalayan 450? The search continues.
Wow Christmas & Birthday came all at once 😂 looks amazing quality 👍 Great video, charlie you need a 3rd hand 🤷♂️ it would come in Handy😂…..you two are a really class act really enjoy your videos Great entertainment value 10/10 and hey your now going to have to go on an adventure to try it all out 😊. M 🏍💨
Bella is looking like a GS for a fraction of the cost. It's going to be a great touring bike. In fact, dare I say, it's better than Roger ever could be? 😢 Just need to pack Bella with your camping equipment and find a camp site to test out the new expansion. On a slightly different topic, I was watching Sean and Suze on the Mindful Motorcyclist channel and I was shocked to hear that the Royal Enfield Meteor 650 was 240kg in weight! Then I watched Chopsy testing the all new 2024 1300GS Adventure and that's 269KG and that's a tank of a bike. I had no idea how heavy Royal Enfield's were. Looking forward to seeing Bella's big adventure ride. It was worth waiting 6 months after all!
soft bags for any riding. Hard are okay but are extra weight and not nice if or when you fall. Im waiting for the 2nd hand market on these bikes. t7 are just expensive and i love the sound of a twin 270° crank.
I do believe that on an Adv bike where your legs are further forward that the hard panniers actually protect in the event of a fall. I do agree about the weight tho.
Slightly "off piste" with this comment but I have put this sort of box arrangement onto another marque of adv bike. The resulting practicality is superb. I am sure you will appreciate the benefits of the boxes over soft luggage immediately. The wait was long but I think well worth it!
Everything is made in China anyway, the only difference with this company is that they aren’t trying to pretend their stuff isn’t! Looks great quality!
The bikes looking great, I've heard mixed reviews about Uncle Wangs. Quite a few complaints about missing parts and late deliveries, how did it go for you? we're you pleased with their service? Edit, forget the questions, I've just got to the end of the video where you say it all went well. Oops!😁 That'll teach me to watch it all the way through before commenting!
Looks good. I have same scenario with overseas parts, but love the price and I adapt Harley touring parts to my VL 1500. I have to say that I use the same torque settings as your installer! We are not building space ships. Great video!
Wow it looks fantastic with all the add ons I have taken a risk with a soft pannier rack from uncle wangs to try fit my old himmy panniers on to the mt fingers crossed carry on
Having a main stand on an adventure bike is essential. why do the manufactures skip them is not good as cost at time of manufacturing is a fraction of retail price as aftermarket accessory .
Hi great video 👍I am waiting delivery of my CFMoto 450mt in Jan/Feb can’t wait, can I ask what model crash bars you ordered please? So many to choose from 😮thanks
That stuff looks great. I'm feeling distinctly envious of your bike tbh. If I could still throw my leg over a seat, I'd be giving very serious thought about getting one. As it is, I'm now thinking of panniers for my Burgman 650. And nice job fitting those bits by Jay & your good self. Those pockets in the cases are a great idea, too. Now to give them a try with kit in!
Great video, I would practice loading it up with your stuff but weigh each item and balance the weight evenly, it does make a difference when cornering, also practice picking it up loaded, , great looking bike now.
It looks like you've put the spring plate for the centrecstand spring on the wrong way around which would explain why the springs were so hard to get on. Good vid. The boxes look nice, just out of interest how big are they.
Hiya RDR, I'd like to get the luggage and the top and bottom bars. Do you have a parts list you ordered so I can reference it? Sorry to be lazy! Fellow 450MT sapphire blue owner ..... Chris
@@zcsccg1 it comes with EVERYTHING if you get the 3 boxes, look at the link on the website and scroll through the pics and you'll see everything it comes with. Plate, brackets, all the stuff.
@restdayrider thank you!! I'll let you know how I get on, planning to order before Saturday. Presumably the top and bottom bars are pretty straightforward.
If you need to to unbox and fit a load of stuff, make sure you get a bloke with a beard to help, they always have the edge on the clean shaven types ....
Bella looks awesome Charlie and that kit looks like excellent stuff. Jay is an absolute Star 🌟 , you are fortunate to have such a good friend and ‘mechanic’, love his sense of humour too. I loved this Vlog. I just need to go and find your tits and hips section now 😂
Maybe, but I need it for touring, soft bags are no good to me for lap tops and camera kit, and I'm not risking that plastic front without crash bars! Plus, that small bike is pretty capable of carrying a pillion, so the kit will be no problem. 😊
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They look great and them little pockets are very good addition
Love a pocket!
Well done the 2 legged ones plus the added calming effect of the beautiful 4 legged ones. Rich and Ewa from On The Road really rated these boxes on the Voge bikes they rode in the torrential rain . Very impressed with the look of them. May they serve you for many fun adventures in the future. Stay safe and happy folks.
Many thanks! 😊
I bought a mounting plate and adv top box off Ali Express, only £100, lined with a pocket in the lid, and it has been perfect. The box is easy on/off and rock solid.
Used Uncle Wang for my Benelli TRK 702, and I agree. It’s great kit well made and it’s a lot cheaper than other places. I was happy to wait 4-6 weeks for delivery too.
Good effort.
When fitted mainstands in the past I've sometimes fitted the springs to the stand first, then pulled on the stand.
It's much easier to get hold of and someone can pull on each side.
But, well done.
Ride safe 👍
The panniers look amazing !! I really like the small pockets on each box !! Can't wait to see them in action !!
I thought that was a great detail too!
really spot on job waiting for the next adventure
Another really nice video. The whole team did great on fitting Bella for her big adventures.
As this summer (after a camping trip with my husband and his aluminium boxes), I decided to go aluminium panniers for my Tracer 700 (was so fed up with having to hold everything in my plastic ones to not have all of the camping gear fall out). Got a really good deal on SW Motech lightly used side panniers. The Chinese counterpart would have been about the same. But for a top box (really always had trouble fitting anything proper in my plastic one), I could not find a used one SW Motech for a decent price. So I decided, after a lot of research to cave in and got one a Chinese model off amazon. I was so very pleased with it! Great quality. My liner has white stitching lines, on the pics it looked a bit...gaudy, to be honest. But in real life, I really like it, protects anything nicely. The only thing I will change that I will add closing flaps to my lid pockets.
Really love your pannier liners. Might have a look whether these are available separately. Or make them myself? Should be doable.
The liners are a sort of neoprene material. 😊
Fantastic job and it looks great
The support brackets that connect to the bobbins on your paddock stand are on the wrong side and need to be swapped. It will make life easier and safer.
Wow, how good does Bella look now. Ready for lots of new adventures. 😊
Absolutely!
Yep the spring installation for the main stand is a lot of work 😅. Mine have been sitting for almost a month before I got all the right tools I needed to install it and yes ratchet strap also did the trick for me. Grats
It's a full on challenge!
Christmas came early for you Charlie😁Centre stand springs are notoriously difficult to fit, I did a few in my day and lost a lot of skin and maybe said some swear words😉Bella is looking magnificent all dressed up now👌Lack of instructions is a pain but you got there, great work by Master Jay👍
Hopefully it's something we'll never have to do again!
No. It looked like the springs were fitted through a T shaped plate with two short slots on either side with a longer slot down the middle on the frame end. This plate looked like it had been fitted the wrong way around. Which meant that the springs would have to be stretched further than intended. I hope this helps.
No they are definitely the right way around. The narrow end of the teardrop shaped hole has to go on to the peg. The other way around is way too slack. Thanks for your input though.
Fantastic! They all look great. I like personal number plate. 👍 looking forward to seeing your adventures on Bella.
Everything looks very cool. 👍👍👏👏
Nice registration plate Charlie. Nice luggage, protection bars and a centre stand. Don't forget to jack up the preload when you have filled those boxes.
Your mechanic friend is an absolute diamond !
Without diagrams or instructions that job would have cost hundreds at a bike shop.
He's certainly got buckets of engineering and bike knowledge, enjoys a puzzle and is pretty patient 😊 ( I did have to check that your comment wasn't from him tho!)
Thanks! I’ll take the praise where I can get it 😅
Hi Charlie she looks great , well done Jay 👍👍👍
Thank you ☺️
Having seen the crash bars, they look good and solid. Those boxes look very nice too.
Christmas has come early Charlie . Happy days .
With the dogs scrutinizing the humans handy work, like they say on the A-Team...it all came together!!😂😂 The bike looks awesome... regards from Wroughton 👍👍👍
Thank you Julian. 😊
Looks great Charlie, ready for the next adventure. You are so lucky with Jay as your friend. Taking calmly his time and finding out what to fit where without throwing tools around your garage :) Fitting springs on a center stand are always a pain in the....behind. The panniers look good. Nice pockets in the lids for small items. Looking forward to your next trip. Take care, drive safely!!
I just edited those bits out. ( Not really, he's very calm when working on the bikes 😊)
Those panniers looks great, really liking the 450, great bike overall. Looking forward to your next adventure.
Hi Charlie and Jay
Looks good quality (nothing wrong with things made in China), fits well and you both got a mental workout thrown in for free. Outstanding 👍👍
Thank you. 😊
Proper nice job. Well done jay. Your apprentice wasn’t bad either 🤣
🤣
Bella is looking awesome Charlie!
Uncle Wang came and delivered quality stuff! 🙂
Absolutely 😁
Fab video. New parts are always very exciting - even the dogs looked pleased! Might nip out on Maggie (Himmy 450) tomorrow for a bit. Will be lowering her soon and putting heated grips on. I need to book a proper adventure too. Take care and ride safe 😎
Heated grips may be a thing for me too, never had a bike with any before. 😊
Hi Charlie, Well, that is amazing, Great, looking set up, plus the pockets on the inside of the panniers Are great. Jay has a lot of patience for fitting things like that though you have an awesome looking and functioning adventure bike looking forward to your next video. Thank you.
Thanks a lot ❤
Thanks for the video appreciated. I am hopefully going to have a sit on the MT450 at the NEC bike show in a couple of weeks. I don't have a local dealer so it'll be my first look.
All the accessories you fitted are what I would be after. You have an awesome friend there to help with the install top man. Take care..
Thank you. 😊
Bella is looking very good. Great video. 👍👍👍
I like that the panniers are lined already! other companies could learn a thing or two!
Regarding small scratch dust spray with Autotek Satin black .....it blends in, and you will never tell it was marked 😊
I'll give that a go!
They look good kit Charlie well done to Jay great video go enjoy 👍
Thanks, will do! 🙂
Great job, looks the business 😍
Thank you. 😊
Looks good stuff. Tip fit the springs first then put your pivot bolts in. Ready for the dragon rally now 👍👍.
Bella is coming on nicely.
Love Jays noise at the torque setting…….class.😂
The stuff looks quality
Thank you 😊
It’s a recognised setting in many garages across the country 😂
Bike looks BadAzz, good job you two & the dogs
Thank you 😊
Thanks 👍
I just did a 2 night camp on my lil honda forza 125cc... loved every minute of it
Really good work that man, you did ok too Charlie! Glad the waiting was worth the saving. Al, the best….Cam x💐
Hahahaha thanks!
Thanks Cam x
Nice too get some gear on the bike even if it took a fair bit of fettling. I'm not a huge fan of top boxes or hard luggage for that matter but it looks the part an hopefully your happy with it.
Cheers for sharing Charlie
Thank you 😊
Look’s quality accessories, your bikes ready for another big adventure 👍
Can't wait!
The doggies look cute. Where are they going to sit?
Uncle Wang's accessories look rather impressive. My only concern is that the bike is now the width of a pantechnican (furniture removals lorry).
Its like a cat, if the whiskers fit through, the rest will follow! 😊
I really like the bike and accessories. I’m downsizing from my beloved BMW 1200GS as I’m 75 now and could use a lighter/lower bike. CFMoto, NX500, Himalayan 450? The search continues.
I tried all of those before I settled on the CF 😊
Palarva? Much!!!!!! Looks fantastic and worth the effort.
Sure was! Very pleased with the results. 😊
Wow Christmas & Birthday came all at once 😂 looks amazing quality 👍 Great video, charlie you need a 3rd hand 🤷♂️ it would come in Handy😂…..you two are a really class act really enjoy your videos Great entertainment value 10/10 and hey your now going to have to go on an adventure to try it all out 😊. M 🏍💨
Absolutely! Can't wait. 😊
I do love torque measurements. Made my day.
It's all very technical. 🤣
I’m full of useful things like that. Im glad you enjoyed my brand of humour.
Good video. The new panniers and top case have enough capacity for the long way round. I think the dogs want to go with you.
Now there's a thought!
Bella is looking like a GS for a fraction of the cost. It's going to be a great touring bike. In fact, dare I say, it's better than Roger ever could be? 😢 Just need to pack Bella with your camping equipment and find a camp site to test out the new expansion. On a slightly different topic, I was watching Sean and Suze on the Mindful Motorcyclist channel and I was shocked to hear that the Royal Enfield Meteor 650 was 240kg in weight! Then I watched Chopsy testing the all new 2024 1300GS Adventure and that's 269KG and that's a tank of a bike. I had no idea how heavy Royal Enfield's were. Looking forward to seeing Bella's big adventure ride. It was worth waiting 6 months after all!
The RE really are very chonky! Can't wait to get out there on Bella. 😊
Looks great Charlie! I think Jay is A bearded mechanic.
He'll like that!
Thanks for that. I would love his workshop that’s for sure 😂
Job well done by you both😊!
Thank you 😊
Thanks
soft bags for any riding. Hard are okay but are extra weight and not nice if or when you fall.
Im waiting for the 2nd hand market on these bikes. t7 are just expensive and i love the sound of a twin 270° crank.
I do believe that on an Adv bike where your legs are further forward that the hard panniers actually protect in the event of a fall. I do agree about the weight tho.
Bella looks AWESOME Charlie. 😊😊😊
Well done ready for next ride
Nice job Charlie/Jay I had the same problem with a main stand spring looked at utube ended up using a rachet strap panniers look great
It's a full work out! 🤣
Not for the feint hearted! Good work
Slightly "off piste" with this comment but I have put this sort of box arrangement onto another marque of adv bike. The resulting practicality is superb. I am sure you will appreciate the benefits of the boxes over soft luggage immediately. The wait was long but I think well worth it!
I can't wait to try them all out on a tour. 😊
Everything is made in China anyway, the only difference with this company is that they aren’t trying to pretend their stuff isn’t! Looks great quality!
It really is! 😊
The bikes looking great, I've heard mixed reviews about Uncle Wangs. Quite a few complaints about missing parts and late deliveries, how did it go for you? we're you pleased with their service?
Edit, forget the questions, I've just got to the end of the video where you say it all went well. Oops!😁 That'll teach me to watch it all the way through before commenting!
Hahahaha😊
Looks good. I have same scenario with overseas parts, but love the price and I adapt Harley touring parts to my VL 1500. I have to say that I use the same torque settings as your installer! We are not building space ships. Great video!
It's a technical thing the torque setting, gotta be just right! 😏
Two gnars on all Harley parts 😂
The only difference between this and a bearded mechanic video is, you finished your project 🤣🤣🤣
There is that! I do love his vids tho. 😊
I love watching his vids. Really funny. But it’s frustrating when he doesn’t finish the project
Wow it looks fantastic with all the add ons I have taken a risk with a soft pannier rack from uncle wangs to try fit my old himmy panniers on to the mt fingers crossed carry on
That'll be interesting!
Ah so, belly intelesting!! Confusious say, “many hands make the stand work” 😂👍😎
Looks fantastic
Very slick and neat
Having a main stand on an adventure bike is essential. why do the manufactures skip them is not good as cost at time of manufacturing is a fraction of retail price as aftermarket accessory .
Careful when filtering now :) Swindon mirror smasher 😂 looks like good quality kit 👍
Hahahaha ! 🤣
awesome
Amazing!
Hi great video 👍I am waiting delivery of my CFMoto 450mt in Jan/Feb can’t wait, can I ask what model crash bars you ordered please? So many to choose from 😮thanks
I bought the set of upper and lower together. 😊
That stuff looks great. I'm feeling distinctly envious of your bike tbh. If I could still throw my leg over a seat, I'd be giving very serious thought about getting one. As it is, I'm now thinking of panniers for my Burgman 650. And nice job fitting those bits by Jay & your good self. Those pockets in the cases are a great idea, too.
Now to give them a try with kit in!
I can't wait to get out there on a trip with the kit to see how it all works out. 😊
It does look some quality items,only just realised that you transferred the number plate from rodger
I did! 😊
very smart !
Might be an idea to spray some afc or wd 40 under those plastic covers to keep moisture out .
Not a bad idea 😊
Was that you with Henry Cole at bath&west autojumble? Just watched and looked like you.
It was indeed. 😊
Great video, I would practice loading it up with your stuff but weigh each item and balance the weight evenly, it does make a difference when cornering, also practice picking it up loaded, , great looking bike now.
She will get practice picking it up soon enough 😂
Whaaaaaaat? 😭 Bella's not going to get dirty on the floor!
😅😅😅@@restdayrider
A Halloween 👻 nightmare for your friend fitting these 😄
And nearly a messy ending!
😂 festive jokes. Very good 👏
It looks like you've put the spring plate for the centrecstand spring on the wrong way around which would explain why the springs were so hard to get on. Good vid. The boxes look nice, just out of interest how big are they.
So you mean the 2 spring clips either end of the springs?
An early Christmas for you.
Hi, where did you buy the foot pegs? They don't look original. Thank you
They're the original out of the box pegs. 😊
Very nice 😀
Ooooo, pockets! Every woman's dream 😂
Exactly that! 😊
Main stand springs, garenteed to lose knuckle skin.
It certainly seems like it!
@restdayrider too late now,bit saw a trick where you hook it over a screwdriver and lever it on.
@theyorkbiker.8214 we tried that too, it needed a ratchet !
Avec de la patience et de la jugeotte on y arrive
😊😊
Absolutely. 😊
@@restdayrider 👍👍
That came by the trans siberian railway.
Already well travelled.
I should put stickers on! 🤣
Hiya RDR, I'd like to get the luggage and the top and bottom bars. Do you have a parts list you ordered so I can reference it? Sorry to be lazy! Fellow 450MT sapphire blue owner ..... Chris
Put these into the web site:
450MT Aluminum alloy box (set of 3)-B
450MT Bumper （G）
@@restdayrider does the top box not need an adapter?
I think there were a few listed so I didn't know which one to match.... groan
@@zcsccg1 it comes with EVERYTHING if you get the 3 boxes, look at the link on the website and scroll through the pics and you'll see everything it comes with. Plate, brackets, all the stuff.
@restdayrider thank you!! I'll let you know how I get on, planning to order before Saturday. Presumably the top and bottom bars are pretty straightforward.
hej meget flot mc du har fået, stort tillykke.
Presumably outie555 hadn’t uploaded his centre stand install video before you started your work?
Sadly not, this was about 10 days ago. 😐
All done though! And still have all my fingers 😂
You must have doubled her weight Charlie! Have fun on her. :)
That was the only way I could get the spring lon using a rachet strap
It's nails!
Unbelievably strong springs 😅
i feel like buying the bike solely for those pockets in the boxes
🤣
When you were fitting the centre stand i spotted rust.
Well done?
I can however assure you that apart from the chain needing a clean, there isn't any.
If you need to to unbox and fit a load of stuff, make sure you get a bloke with a beard to help, they always have the edge on the clean shaven types ....
That’s so true. Thanks 😂
Dónde comprar las maletas
enlace al tío Wang en la descripción
Are you and jay together as a couple? He is a great bloke!! It all looks good stuff 👍x
He's definitely a handy bloke to have around. 😊
@ lol 😂 diplomatic Answer?😂😂told you before I am very nosey 😂😂x
I hope all the frame work comes with a pre drilled hole to aid water retention problems😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Oh probably. 😏
6 weeks??? Did they send them by donkey?
Possibly!
Bella looks awesome Charlie and that kit looks like excellent stuff. Jay is an absolute Star 🌟 , you are fortunate to have such a good friend and ‘mechanic’, love his sense of humour too. I loved this Vlog. I just need to go and find your tits and hips section now 😂
🤣 Paaahahahaha! 🤣
As nice as it looks I don't wanna know the weight u have added to the bike... Kinda defeats the point of a small light bike 🤷
Needs must, and I don't plan on throwing it around green lanes with all the boxes on. I'd rather know the front is protected if she has a lay down.
10-15kg would be my guess
If you’re going to go touring you need luggage 💁🏼♂️
Wow that’s a lot of weight you just added to that small bike. Must be an extra 40kg.
Maybe, but I need it for touring, soft bags are no good to me for lap tops and camera kit, and I'm not risking that plastic front without crash bars! Plus, that small bike is pretty capable of carrying a pillion, so the kit will be no problem. 😊
No where near 40kg10-15 max
Just be wary of the plastic hinges breaking, other than that they are great I paid £53 for my top box of same seller 👍😂
Good to know! 😃