2024 Mustang GTD vs. Camaro GT4.R? |
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
- The 2024 Mustang GTD has been revealed; what makes this different from the Camaro GT4.R? Let's discuss it.
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obvious by many of the comments, many dont even understand who really made this car or what it really is.
Clearly...
Right 😂😂 great car none the less
Multimatic, a company that has built great race cars in the past built this Mustang GT3 for Ford.
People generally don't understand these types of cars. They allow you to buy a turn key legal race car.
We build time attack cars out of gen 6 ss, zl1 1le, and c7 z06s that set faster laps than all these gt4.r, mustang gtd or whatever. Maybe not the mustang gtd but besides the point. The reason that you buy one of those cars is to be legal in a series and have all the safety, so it's not about lap times but about a turn key legal competition car that's competitive in a set class. Camaro gt4r is off pace of a zl1 1le with slicks and a real wing. Actually a dead stock zl1 1le would probably beat a gt4r camaro around a single lap. The flip side of that is you couldn't beat it over 15 laps cause the zl1 1le would lose brakes and probably over heat at full 10 tenths pace with a professional driver. I race a c7 z06 with 580 wheel hp, mcs coilovers, and a little aero with gy3r tires and it runs 2:16 around cota and 1:45 around Buttonwillow a gt4r camaro would probably be 2:20 and 1:50 on better racing slick tires. Hope that helps with understanding purpose of these cars. Grated the mustang gtd is likely faster but still wouldn't be a single lap hero over say a unlimted class global time attack car. So just a higher level like you said but still not record setter
Race cars are restricted to a class that it races in restricted power to weight BoP...
Well, another reason why Barra should been replaced (I have been posting that for years, especially when the new Trailblazer came out-I had'07 Trailblazer SS so I was very disappointed*) hey she started out with interiors so what does that tell you? Good for Ford and smart because it will only help dark horse -(Shelby without paying Shelby*😮) at least they have not folded yet.
GTD is a GT3 class, just runs under it's own BOP and name for IMSA specifically.
Corvette has not had a GT4 car since the C6, only GTE/GT3 . Camaro also had a GT3 car with the 5th gen, but it was built by a German company and very much unknown to most.
The Camaro GT4.R was built by Pratt & Miller, with assistance from GM, similar to the C5.R - C8.R.
The GT4.R loses it's homologation at the end of the 2023 racing season so I do not think it will be available anymore from P&M, mainly because they have shifted focus to the new Corvette GT3 customer based program. And FYI, the GT4.R is not a street legal car, it is strictly a racecar for the GT4 racing class.
Just a few extra facts for anyone who wants to know. Feel free to ask anymore questions if anyone has some.
I never had the money to pursue anything over $100k! I’m just as happy with the SS/ZL1’s to build myself. Plus I can afford those lol! Mustangs are pretty neat vehicles. I’ve owned one in the past but since buying a camaro I haven’t looked back. I’m not a hater I just preferred Camaros. I currently have a C6 Corvette but still also looking to buy another Camaro ZL1 in the future. I want add that this newer mustang body style favors the Camaros 🤔 and now with them entering the racing scene with the GT4.R spec makes me wonder why they waited so long to go with this along side the Camaro. I wish them luck!
I made the mistake a few years back of getting rid of 2016 2ss, now I'm down to building an 86 iroc- miss my 2016
thanks
Love the videos Matt but even more, love the Steelers hat! You are definitely a man after my own heart!
On the Mustang, my budget can't handle the $100k dealers are wanting for the C8 Corvette, no way I can even entertain the idea of something like that. I just can't bring myself to get excited about a car that costs more than my house.
Yeah, same.
My god, that Mustang is sick.
Lets line em up i got a 2022 camaro 1ss 1LE manual
Great video, perhaps best looking mustang I’ve ever seen. Still a Camaro lover
Does GTD stand for diesel?
Mustang is another Level!
That mustang is absolutely sick but for 300 thousand dollars I would get me a Ferrari or lamborghini huracan when is the 2024 Camaro coming out save the camaro good video 📹
I brought this concept to you years ago.... GM has these parts in the warehouse, GEN 7 Corvette leftovers....dry sump and rear trans... could have been done better and much cheaper on the camaro ... maybe Z28 ?????
$300k is pretty damn high for a mustang. But Ford will need to beat back applicants for the GTD. From traditional mustang fans (but with money) and supercar/track-centric buyers (those who prefer 911 GT3, Lamborghini Huracan STO, AMG GT Black Series, etc buyers).
There are quite a few channels who are, generally, supercar owners that indicate they’ve gotten an allocation for GTD.
Not 2024 it is 2025 mustang GTD so they test compared 2016 Ford GT and they test timer on new mustang is very fast car beat Porsche in IMSA racing
Were from the town with great football team we cheer the pittsburgh steelers Matt the mustang is cool but ford is not customer friendly 300 grand . Or you could apply for a 500 grand gt.. Or you could get a rainbow rapter FORD NOWAY
The GTD is a street version of the GT3. However, the active aerodynamic spoiler is illegal for racing.
Ford has 4.6 million cars recalled last year. So let’s make a track car and hope everyone forgets our quality issues.
Chevy did a lap at CTMP several weeks ago, the new C8z did 1.22.10 which almost catches porsche gt3 cars. :) You can get a c8z instead.
The GTD is not a race car. It is a carbon fiber super car to compete with Ferrari, Aston Martin, Mercedes AMG, and the likes. Ford has GT3 and GT4 mustangs. They will be racing for now 2 GT3 teams in Le Mans. They also have the Darkhorse R which is the off the shelf face car anyone can buy and will have their own racing series. I believe Multimatic is building all these cars.
The GTD is based of the GT3 race car. It’s the road version of the GT3
300k in this economy says everything about the GTD but it's gaod to see these companies still making special cars. That Nurburgring time will be crucial for the GTD
Invitation only sure they have enough collector buyers...
Those exhaust throws it off in the back. Look like it doesn't belong. They need to be dual round tips
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Unfortunately I only saw one Camaro GT4R racing in the Fanatec GT World Challenge last year. They also race the Camaro GT4R in the USA but never saw one in the IMSA series.
Rebel Rock Racing fields one in the IMSA Michelin Pilot Challenge series, they actually took 1st in their class two weeks ago at road america. You can stream all the races on Peacock
Camaro GT4R
Didn't even know the Camaro gt4.r existed . General motors always does such a half a**ed job with their vehicles that I honestly don't know why they're still in business.
I almost feel like I need to turn in my Camaro fan card for not knowing about this. :(
I'm pretty sure that the mustang couldn't race in GTD with 800hp. last I knew they didn't allow that much hp in the class
It runs a 5.4 coyote limited to class...
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Pratt makes awesome cars, they are kind of the go to for that space! Another reason to be pissed that Ford is taking full advantage of everyone pulling out and why we need a new Camaro! Great video, hurricane heading your way stay safe out there guys! - Mark
When the Camaro actually wins something then we can talk!😂
What is your take Lethal? No b.s. rhetoric!
The car is a street legal GTD spec car that is for someone who wants to race. It’s a cool car just like the GT4.R cars and they might make 25-50 of them.
Lethal garage camaro gt4r.
Matt have you heard the rumors of GM building a Z28 as the last Camaro hurrah and it would be a 2025?
It’s not happening
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The mustang gtd should be the car that price should be 70k not dark horse
Camaro is still alive in motorsports. They run a ZL1 in Nascar, the Camaro GT4.R in IMSA, multiple classes in NHRA, and the newest one is in the Australian Supercar series. That Camaro in the supercar series is whooping up on the mustang and is seriously awesome, look up some 2023 supercar races if you haven't seen it yet.
Mustang runs restrictor in Gen 3 they have changed weight and aero balance and throttle bodies to match cars parity...
So all the people saying the new mustang looks like a camaro, what are yall saying now?
This is a full departure from a Mustang.
Camaro? Never heard of her.
All of us in the comments... we are all gonna end up owning a Mustang if you haven't owned one yet. Seeing the Darkhorse sold me enough that this will be my next line of vehicles... my Chevy gold got tainted Ford Blue slowly...
It's cool but....$300 gz for a stang??!! At that point I would go with an exotic name brand! Also it's automatic only!! No thx
Coolest part about that Mustang is the inboard rear suspension and that they made it a transaxle.
No way I would ever spend that much money on any car. Let alone a Mustang
FORD has STOLEN the body style of the CAMARO.......
That's okey.
lol camaro do death and i’ll make fun of mustangs and poke fun at them but there is a point where you can’t and the whole 7th gen mustang including the gtd is better then anything chevy has done in a minute with the camaro, the COPO’s are cool but it’s not like ford doesn’t do cobra jets
The GT4.R nope the floor with the GT4 Mustang, the GTD car here would be disqualified from racing in the GTD circuit I have found out. Cool car, but it’s a publicity stunt.
Not worth 300k
Something is worth whatever somebody is willing to pay for it.
800 horse and $300k, so unaffordable and so unpractical. Glad Chevy didnt try to do it for a street car.
Sure you are 😅
You mean impractable? Of course....just like any other supercar or muscle car is.
This is a special project from Ford and Multimatic...and probably Tremic was involved as well.
You want impractable? How about the $34,000,000 Rolls Royce I saw today. You might not like it but this Mustang GTD is badasss for what it is.
GM,
What is your damn four cylinder Corvette going to do now? Gonna race the blazer against this Mustang
I guess they wanted something to compete with the Challenger Demon 170
The 170 can’t take a turn at 130
Challenger is a straight car
@@ricklp1861 I think it identifies as LGBTQ
If they wanted to compete with a Challenger they should’ve cancelled the mustang faster
@@teamcaveman1 trick boat 😮
Isn't ford gt supercar?
Ford GT is no longer in production
Yes.
U think fords doing it right I thinks it’s a waist of 350k
It’s a street legal competition car, no one is buying this for the street, they want it to compete in the GTD series.
@@Lethalgarage it's road legal car, it wont be allowed to compete anywhere. GT3 mustang is the one to compete in GTD series.
The name is just a reference.
@@LethalgarageThe GTD Mustang is just the name Ford used for the car. This is the road legal street version of the GT3 Mustang that is raced in the GTD Series. This is a street only Mustang that cannot compete in any racing series with Active Areo and 800 HP. This car is the same as the outgoing Street Ford GT.
@@fasttime823 would be pretty easy to turn off or remove the active aero.
Wow GM! All the four cylinders and electric cars….. Corvette is going to get its ass whipped. High revving, small displacement engines! Now you all are in trouble. Should have put more effort into the Camaro. I am not bout IG a fifty thousand dollar four cylinder! Ford just whipped their ass on Chevy. What are you GM ladies going to do now
Problem is Tadge has said many times of not wanting to build a ACR/ Senna type Corvette. Camaro ZL1 1LE was already there. Only needed more attention. What is GM going to do will be interesting.
Ahhh.. NOPE. It's a mid engine afterthought patchjob... and I'm sure nobody here is paying 300k+ for it... irrelevant babbling on this video is all it will be.... and the darkhorse is BS, bring back a Mach1 or the Shelby... Mustang owner all my life and I hate gow Ford destroyed the brand, starting with the 4 door electric SUV... Ford is sending me pre approval letters every week, 0.9 financing, telling me to come get my Mustang... and for the first time in 30 years I'm not in the least bit interested.
No one wants the Camaro . Why do you think it's being discontinued? Because its popular? No! Because its sells have dwindled down to nothing. You have to ask yourself for a car that's so popular, track worthy, and capable what happened to all the buyers? Actions speak louder than words.
I used to love Camaro and it was one of the first cars i learned how to drive in.
The Mustang is just a more desirable nameplate, with better marketing, and more loyal following. And trust me when i say!, They will sell every last one of them at Three hundred thousand.
Camaro is coming back with revenge because Ford just back handed gm in the face.
Yup, Ford just showed how it can be done. Unfortunately, no one at GM is paying attention. They're no longer in the car business as we want it. They see themselves as an electric luxury vehicle maker.
GM could give a shit.
Does not look like a Mustang at all. Coming for a crowd near you!!! 😂 Ugly
The Mustang hasn't looked like a true Mustang since the S197's.
We know GM made it. They just got whooped I'm not a mustang fan but it looks sick
Anyone who would pay $300K for any American muscle or performance care needs to have their head examined! That kind of money, you can get into certain Lamborghinis or Ferraris!
Not everyone likes those POS cars.