How Apple Destroyed The Netbook
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- Опубликовано: 10 апр 2019
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Apple is known for creating revolutionary devices that redefine their product categories and disrupt various markets. Take the iPhone for example, it forced us to reimagine what a smartphone was and how it could be used. But it also made devices like music players obsolete, which began the decline of the iPod. And in this video we’re going to explore a very similar situation as it pertains to the netbook.
Now before we discuss how Apple destroyed the netbook industry, we need to begin by defining what a netbook even is. And that includes understanding the state of the tech market back when netbooks were first introduced. In 2007 Apple introduced the iPhone, which was arguably the first modern smartphone consumers had ever seen, and it helped establish the beginnings of the mobile tech revolution. You see, up until that point, mobile devices weren’t very capable machines. Sure you could answer emails and do some rudimentary internet browsing with something like the Blackberry, but there were serious limitations that prevented it from delivering a desktop-class experience. iPods were also very popular, but they were designed for very specific purposes. For example, listening to music or watching tv shows and movies you bought from iTunes. And keep in mind modern tablets like the iPad hadn’t been invented yet.
So if you wanted a traditional desktop experience on the go, your only option was to lug around a notebook computer. Which weren’t as thin and light in 2007 as they are today. Many computer manufactures identified this gap in the market, and decided to bring back a product concept that had been attempted in the past, but failed virtually every time. And that product was the netbook. Netbooks were basically miniaturized notebook computers that included only the most essential features in an attempt to be as affordable, compact, and light as possible. Now as I mentioned, this history of product goes back before 2007, but had never seen much commercial success.
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1GB ram is what destroyed the damn things...
The sad part being the original iPad had a mere 256MB of RAM.
+Lauren C
But the optimization was what really helped it
@@Lauren_C But it didn't run MACos
@@sosopwsi829Jjw9 but it’s compatible with the macOS, due to the infrastructure
I'd say it was the Atom processors being so pitiful coupled with the manufacturers loading them up with so much bloatware. A netbook installed with a clean copy of Windows 7 and none of the manufacturers crap ran considerably better, although they were still slow. Weirdly, the final netbooks on sale before they were replaced by the likes of the HP Stream (which in were also awful) were actually alright. The final ones, such as the Packard Bell me69bmp, used a baytrail Celeron and was actually quite useable (and dirt cheap to buy).
Today, we call netbooks a chromebook running linux.
Not quite though. Netbooks cheap out on a lot of things like screen, keyboard, processors but chrome books are pretty well spec and usually have good screen and full keyboard.
@@s3cr3tpassword galaxy chromebook for example, the most ultra-high specced chromebook i have ever imagine
Seven V Most schools have migrated from iPads or cheap windows laptops to Chromebooks now.
krishnugget that’s a downgrade
@@shakinspider A very large downgrade
in the last several weeks, not a single poll was shown to me in my mobile activity feed. Thanks RUclips...
@Tim for me it's never ever shown up. I've subbed and turned on notificationd
Ishan Kumar it showed up on mine
I hate how the iPad Version of RUclips has no support for polls or posts
@@32BitLink me too. i'm on a android tablet 😣
It works on a netbook lol.
If Steve Jobs was still alive he would be proud of the IPad
@@TheSwagGuy5000 How would you know? You're not him.
“who wants a stylus?!”
badmoose01 ooooof 😂
@@badmoose01 that aged horribly
TheSwagGuy5000 actually Steve always wanted a buttonless device, so he would love it, Steve also liked simplicity, so he would have loved the flat design. And he was also a fan of removing old technology, like CDs or Adobe Flash, so he would not complain about no headphone jack.
The best netbook was, ironically, the 11 inch Macbook Air.
yep, one of the only reasons i ever gave apple computers a shot was because all of my coder friends, ran WINDOWS on MacBook Airs, I was like - is this an ironic hack? and they were like... "no it's the best windows laptop on earth" I was shook.
Sony vaio 👌
GPD Pocket 2.
I have that one. Wish it had an SD card reader.
true
The guy from 6:27 appears at the apple conference 5:08 lol
Nice video btw, my first netbook was a HP mini 210. I loved that thing.
Whoa man, you have sharp eyes
how did you see that
I noticed that as well
wow you notice that.. in my eyes all white skinned western looks the same. Like indians
This channel is great, it's not about reviews or apps, just history, nice essays and interesting topics. You are a great channel, keep it up!
This guy made video about that sim ejector pin! As if no one knew it before!! How the hell this is a surprise for anyone
@@asifmetal666 I literally just watched that video and it had stuff that I didn't know about the thing. Yes, it might be useless knowledge, but it was well made, offered new information and is less than 3 minutes, how can that be harmful or bad?
I dont even use Apple devices but you took the time to hate on something like this, why?
I can’t even imagine living without my iPad. I do video editing, photo editing, watching movies and youtube videos everyday. I think it is the most innovative product Apple has ever released.
Me too. Used my iPad until I realised I don’t really need my computer anymore.
koolkatken I actually went out and bought a MacBook because my iPad Pro couldn’t do everything. There are one or two tasks I still need a computer for but with a little bit of software tweaks and availability of more powerful apps (or even better programs) the iPad could replace any computer. I’ve found procreate to nearly as good as photoshop and Luma Fusion to be 10x better than Vegas Pro (for what I need it to do.)
@@doctorwhomemories8939 agree, even today, the iPad is powerful enough, but software limitation makes us still need computer iteration, but who's know the future, right? Apple decided to use ARM chip on their MacBook which is the same chip as the iPad Pro, so it's just a matter of time
@@adlirifqi Actually, there are some pieces of software (at least ones from Apple) that will probably never make it to the iPad unless Apple changes their business strategy. They currently limit a lot of apps to one platform only to channel buyers to that product (think Final Cut Pro).
My uncle still has his and uses it from time to time. It’s still slow and clunky as it was back then. His refusal to ditch it for an iPad or even a Chromebook is impressive.
I bet it has a nice chunky barrel charger.
As long as the slowness and clunkiness didn't bother him...
2019.. iPad finally offers mouse support
What’s a mouse?🤔
Yep! I was going to just get the 2018 budget iPad as iOS wasn’t advancing as quickly as the pro hardware. But after iPad OS was announced i went with the iPad Pro instead..
wHaT's a cOmPuTeR?
WHO WANTS A STYLUS?
@@Tonabillity ... a cute squeaky rodent. My cat loves them.
Amazing how the iPad and ultra-portable PCs/Macs have basically replaced these. My portable computing setup is entirely my HP Spectre X360 and an iPad Air 3 - with me mostly using my Air 3 on the go.
The way the mobile workspace evolved is just insane. I remember being in highschool with those $200-400 acer netbooks which was just enough to play Runescape or GTA San Andreas and run windows movie maker.
you're young and have no say asshole
try scrolly wheels and no gui, MS-DOS command prompt oldie
I thought iPads were stupid back in the day. Now, my iPad doesn’t leave my side. In fact, I’m watching this video on it right now!!
the iPad was the best Apple product. You can’t change my mind.
Same, I’m also watching in it. Rn.
Same! ✌️😎
Same
because it was all thought out product. people just love to judge or quickly assumed something they dont know
I always thought the 11 inch MacBook Air was also a major blow to netbooks. True, it wasn't cheap, but it offered a very light and small notebook that didn't skimp on power, nor usability. No wonder they advertised it as "what if an iPad and a MacBook hooked up" back then.
It's as if they hooked up a keyboard to an iPad
[turns head to see Apple making first party keyboards for iPads]
@@doctordothraki4378they did that for the ipad pro almost a decade ago
I remember when I was in middle school we had to use these. They all ran on Windows Vista in 2013 and they took forever to start up and once loaded up, the class period was almost finished. I remember specifically one time when one died right in front of me and started smoking up after running too hot during startup! (It only worked when connected to a power source. 😂) The next year I didn't see a single netbook and the year or two after we started getting Chromebooks. Those days are long gone and now I've got my own MacBook Pro in college (the one with the touch bar).
Dude, you’ve seen so much change in just under a decade. The iPad 2 quite truly revolutionized my college life, and wirelessly shooting up my Power Points through the Apple TV adapter on the projector in my Comm 101 classroom blew everyone away coming from this strange new “iPad”.
Now as an adult, I enjoy using the iPad for like 70% of my computer needs, and adore the Mac for the rest.
there were Tablets around the time of the iPhone's release but they were big, clunky and usually came with a full sized keyboard instead of an on screen keyboard and used a resistive touch display requiring the use of stylus instead of using a capacitive touch display like on the iPhone but at least they ran the full version of Windows (or maybe even Linux) with the same CPUs as a regular Laptop since all they really did was take a laptop, change the laptop hinge so that the display can sit on the keyboard while in usage, as well as changing the display type in order to support a touch screen.
wclifton968 tablets then were only seen on pimp my ride
@@JackEstacio tablets then were quite expensive so I can see why you'd think that they'd only been seen on TV.....?
He said *modern* tablets yo
you're thinking of windows "tablet pc edition" laptops, they were aweful, i set up hundreds of them, non stop shit show every one of them. a lot of that can be blamed on microsoft too though, for a horrible out of box experience (the average tablet pc of that era took 1-4 hours on first boot just to install it's own OS from it's own HD) and only to be hamstringed by a lousy windows 95/98/ME UI with the worst handwriting recognition ever devised, terrible viewing angles on low-res 'rotating/flipping/tilting' screens, and huge thick plastic chasis, and don't even get me started on battery life on those. plus carrying around an external floppy and cd drive.
Neonode n1m(2005) had on screen keyboard,swipe to unlock and other gestures.LG prada was the first capacitive touchscreen smartphone.Apple combined all these technology and features in iphone.
I'm glad I live in an era where light and powerful laptops are very affordable.
if you accept 3kg, you can get lots of power for under $1200
Small cheap laptops are still around, just nobody bandies the term netbooks around that's all. I love my iPad, but I think the original criticism was quite warranted.
If you want a netbook today, you can still find 10" low powered cheap windows laptops easy. No one is calling them a netbook anymore.
Netbooks just diverged into Chromebooks, Ultrabooks, and Transforming Tablets. They're all fundamentally the same idea just with very slight variances.
NiGHTSnoob I think Chromebooks are a close thing, but you can buy a $200 10 or 11” HP windows laptop. It’s under powered, small, cheap, runs windows or Linux. It’s exactly what a netbook is. Ultrabooks costing as much as they do and tablets practically being a different thing, you can say they are something that took over the netbook.
A $50 Amazon fire tablet could be argued that’s the obvious successor. It emails, RUclips’s and surfs the web.
With Chromebooks basically just being an alternative OS for the form factor and super cheap compact laptops still being for sale. I think it’s just the term that went away. The device is still available everywhere.
@@sloppynyuszi With the right Linux distro, You'd be surprised what an "under powered" machine can do!
No, not a Windows laptop. I bought a used MacBook Pro 13" mid 2010 some years ago. Could update the OS several times until now High Sierra 10.13.6 always for free! It runs like a dream. The only things that hangs some times are Word and Excel nothing else. The Windows punishment has an end, no more Microsoft crap for me. I recently also got a used iPhone 7 and an iPad 9.7" both 128 GB and now iOS 12.4, soon to be iOS 13.
Had Samsungs and a LG Spirit LGE before with too small memory, every time I needed an other App I had to erase several other, got fed up with it.
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What actually destroyed netbooks in short words: Microsoft, Windows 7 Starter Edition, MacBook Air, iPad
2:33 I want to taste that Pepsi, which is made with real sugar.
Hello, old comment. Pepsi with real sugar is available where I am. That’s all we buy.
@@ephektz They still sell those?
@@lenadams854 Indeed. It’s usually in stock at Target or HEB.
“Netbooks are dead”
*Laughs in school chromebooks*
They're running an operating system that is much more lightweight to run on the specs that these laptops have and have bigger trackpads and keyboards so are a better experience.
I thought that the netbook market was brought down because of the fact that most of them used Intel Atom CPUs, which effectively had a time-bomb within them.
I worked at staples during this time. In 2007-2012. And no one bought the netbook. We sold one like once every 3-4 weeks. So we only had like 4 models on display and 2 on hand one of each and the other 2 had to be ordered.
My dad bought a brand new OG iPad on launch day. He used it for about a week then gave it to my little brother who still uses it to this day.
Hes been using it for approx 11 years?
@@bullymaguire6388 yup lol
Great vid!" You should make a video about Macbooks glowing logo. Why it dissapeared
Disappeared because it was merely a cosmetic feature. All it did was make the device thicker, and Apple's products have been going slimmer and slimmer by the year. Apple would slightly throttle their Macs instead of increasing the speed of its fans. It's simply a user experience and enjoyment thing. And Apple is really good at that.
The new displays are too thin to have the glowing logo powered by the backlight. If you shine a light on the glowing logo, you could see the apple logo on your display, which is now rectified with the removal of the glowing logo. It used to look cool though.
alysdexia you must be fun at parties
It did not fill the high standards of Apple
Battery killer for NO REAL USE.
"I've release the iPad and it was so successful"
"What did it cost?"
"Depressions"
Woah just woah ..
Edit : I miss you Steve jobs
We**
Apple products are so good that 7 years ago I ended up using my iPod Touch more than I used my lap top
Watching this on my iPad, and I owned a netbook during the late 2000’s 😂
Idk why but my idiot brain bought the $1800 MacBook Air Gen1 . The next year I facepalmed by self so hard it left a mark 😂😂😭
Same. I had owned two HP notebook and one Lenovo. Nostalgic times.
When I got my 2rd gen iPod touch and eventually the iPhone 3g I always thought that a device similar to the iPod touch and iPhone but bigger would be a great device for content consuming, months later they announced the iPad and I still remember all the criticism from tech bloggers, however I loved the idea and got the iPad day one. Since then I always have had an iPad and even though I have the galaxy note 9 I still the use iPad every day.
I remember being one of those people who thought the iPad was pointless. I think I was more specifically in the “ why do I want a giant iPod touch” camp. Then I got an iPad 4, fell in love and have been buying iPads since. Currently on the iPad Pro, and still loving it!!!!
I remember being overseas two years ago when my laptop's motherboard broke, so I needed a cheaper device for work. Looking through the price and specs, none was appealing whatsoever. If netbooks are to stay alive, they would need to significantly further decrease their price in today's market.
This wasn't the only reason netbooks disappeared.
As their market share rapidly grew, sales numbers for higher-end (and more expensive) laptops decreased. This obviously isn't what companies want as profit margins were lower; because of this, they were effectively made worse.
Microsoft also has a major role in the fall of netbooks. As Windows XP (the OS on nearly all early models) was becoming more outdated, Windows 7 Starter became the version of choice for OEMs. The issue is, it was properly dreadful -- deliberately. Much more restrictive than XP whilst still being less lightweight.
That's all there is to it, really. After a few more years, they were dead. However, in my opinion, netbooks have lived on in the form of cheap 11.6 inch laptops, and Chromebooks.
that i was saying
The biggest problem with Chromebooks is privacy. Google's biggest business is selling their users personal data, and collect as much personal data as possible.
Hans-Jørgen Kristiansen You’re thinking of facebook. Google collects data but the don’t sell it like Facebook does.
@despacito 2
Unlikely
IMHO
Yet another awesome video. Keep it up.
My English teacher still uses a Windows 7 netbook even today! And she even used it for school-work.
I own 3 PCs of various ages, and seldom ever use them....I tend to live on my iPad....Im an illustrator, and even that is covered now.Ironically typed on my old Kindle, cause it needed some love.
My mother-in-law had a netbook. I hated that thing with every fiber of my being.
And how was the netbook?
I had the blue acer in this video and loved it
AsakuraClan LOL
The Chromebook is the netbook perfected. No clunky pc software or desktop OS, just a browser and the web. And now they are essentially android tablets too. I bought a Chromebook on a whim and fell in love. It’s just a great experience.
I use a netbook for computing on the go: a GPD Pocket 2 running Lubuntu. I use it because it fits in my pocket, it gives me a better desktop experience than a tablet, and it runs on mostly free/libre software.
I just realized I used to have an acer netbook like the one you showed at 3:55 back in the day, I just didn’t know it was called a netbook, for me it was just a small pc
Why do you sound like tech Altar ?
Not even close..
He doesn’t ... but I am shocked there are fans of Tech Altar. Love that guy.
The old netbooks they showed in the beginning look like those kids toy laptops they sell at the store just a little bigger lol
The thumbnail looks like Steve Jobs found out Tim Cook took a crap In his coffee.
MacBook Air 11” is Apple’s short lived “netbook”.
...no
@@aeonjoey3d yes
They will continue as 13" devices, but while it lasted, I think the 11" air was a great device, perfect for on-the-go use. Even though I have since purchased a full-sized 15' laptop, I still use my personal 11" Macbook air at my job around the building as a work notebook now. I simultaneously keep my work-issued Lenovo laptop docked to my monitors as a "desktop computer" instead (I work in IT, and I am often on my feet). It allows me so much more freedom to get things done because of how fluid Apple's ecosystem is.
I also mapped my Windows network drive we all get individually for work storage to my Macbook, while also utilizing iCloud to pass some things through as an additional backup just in case (I ignore my work Google Drive/Stream account, because it's unreliable with syncing and a total shit-show), and if I need to remote into servers, Windows RDP app works perfectly on MacOS. Honestly, with Apple, keeping the best of Apple on a Macbook along with incorporating the best of Windows that Microsoft has gotten right, makes for the PERFECT workhorse laptop. It increases my productivity every single day.
@@NKWTI Realised the 11" MBAs could have fitted a 13" screen in the same-sized body if the bezels were thinner
My 13 inch macbook pro is smaller and lighter than my old 11.6 inch netbook. People forget how bulky netbooks were.
Netbooks still exist, they’re called chrome books
Yeah there only used for school😂
Anyone remember those Augen E-go netbooks that came with a locked down and outdated version of Windows CE and 128mb of RAM.
When I was a college student, I owned one of those netbooks by Toshiba. It served its use for a couple of years until I convinced my parents that I'll have macbook pro as my graduation gift. I also thought the iPad was a glorified oversized iPod touch. It took me years later when I realized its use: one of which, in Japan I've been to at least 2 restaurants that utilized iPads as digital menus, and your orders after submitting go straight to the kitchen and you wait for your food to arrive. Eventually they became digital sketchbooks, especially when the Pencil (and other equivalent stylus on tablets) came around. If i want a mobile cinematic experience on a slightly bigger screen than my phone, an iPad or a tablet is an option. And there are apps that try to have the tablets as a second monitor with varying degrees of success. Steve jobs was and is way ahead of its time. Also, my 2012 macbook pro still kicking provided i recently gave it storage and memory upgrades and I was too stupid to accidentally make the cd drive cry. XD
Your video is right on point. I had an HP and Acer netbook before getting my first iPad. Due to the weak specs, pretty much the only thing I used my tiny Netbook for was web-browsing. The ONLY reason I caved-in to the iPad (I was very skeptical of the iPad when it 1st came out) was because I had put in my 2-week's notice at Target during that time - and I wanted to take advantage of my employee discount before losing it. Turned out that was the best decision ever. The iPad costed the same and allowed me to do all of those "recreational" activity (e.g. web surfing, reading articles, e-mails) better; and is much more portable.
shoulda bought a laptop and get off celerons.
newb
in the future... traditional desktops & laptops will be used by people who need to type... ie everyone
Pcs will never go away, there's always a gaming PC with an army of PC gamers
For the costs in the production of the chassis type. The type X chassis.
Thanks for making this video. Apple delivered a double blow, 1) iPad and 2) MacBook Air. The iPad not enough like a computer for your needs? The MacBook Air is thin, light and easy to take anywhere you might need it. As the iPad got better and the MacBook Air got smaller (i.e. 11 inches), there was simply no market left.
Like an ad lol 😂
>Came to learn about netbooks
>Ended up discovering caffeinated chocolate
Important lesson of the day: Critics always get it wrong every time a product like the iPad is introduced.
So... Several years ago I bought a netbook with an AMD processor because it was cheaper and more portable and, ironically, got better battery life than any other laptop I was considering. What did I use it for? Developing 3D video games that would run on a mid-range gaming PC. You can't exactly do that with an ipad, but with a bit of work you can do it with a mid-range Chromebook.
For the record, that netbook was a one of a kind using a very rare AMD processor that provided the graphics power of an it, making 3D game development in unity possible. I wasn't making a cell-shaded low-poly game. I was developing a voxel polygonization engine. People think they need more power... What they need is more efficient software. Web browsing was as slow as generating millions of polygons, and watching a RUclips video was as demanding as rendering millions of polygons (yes, I got up to millions of polys on it).
That computer cost less than $400, got 4-6 hours of battery life, ran windows 8, and weighed less than a MacBook pro with a better keyboard than a modern MacBook (minus the backlight) and more ports. I am really excited for a new line of AMD integrated graphics.
Sorry, nostalgia rant.
the new iPad Pro is amazing! I also have the iPad Mini 4 and I love it. I miss Steve Jobs and his innovations.
Neither of which were innovations by Steve Jobs...
But the irony is i am watching this video on Windows Laptop. But i must say that phones are far more comfortable.
How is that ironic?
My roommate in the Army back in 2010 used a netbook for all his main and only computer. I, on the other hand, was using a top of the line MacBook Pro. He would mercilessly tease me over my expensive Apple computer that performed the same tasks as his $400 netbook. I still recall how he howled with laughter when OS X was incompatible with the Army websites and software that we sometimes used.
Me receiving my first smartphone: a slate???
Me when first seeing an iPad: a slate...?
Me now seeing a laptop: a slate...?
Me years from now seeing anything: A SLATE!?
Bought my first iPad in 2013 and have been loving it ever since
Thats good
IMO I ithink it 's the Macbook air that destroyed the Netbook's market not the IPad
John Blackwood it’s probably both
Keep in mind how much more expensive the MacBook Air was compared to a netbook. I think the iPad was the device that truly destroyed netbooks.
ARS yeah! considering that at least in south america it became pretty popular back in the day to buy netbooks for pre teens or children to do their homework and stuff, ipads dethroned them and took the place and parents started buying tablets/ipads to do that
@@Mohit50325 i think also regular full size laptops became so cheap that people just started buying cheap laptops instead
$20 for chocolate that’s outrageous
Apple Explained: How Apple destroyed the Netbook
Me: Horrible battery life, horrible network, horrible software, AND OF COURSE, APPLE'S REVOLUTIONARY IPAD
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You've become a big youtuber and your channel is making thousands of dollars. It's about time you get some soundproof foam. Other than that - I've been enjoying this channel for many months. I like how you made it work with just pictures.
sound *absorbing* foam would make more sense. he needs to get rid of the room echoes, not stop the sound going into other rooms necessarily.
Always love an Apple Explained video, keep it up! :)
Thanks Amy!
@@AppleExplained Should be more like Apple answered
@@AppleExplained You are great
I still have a netbook that I use. It has an old version of iTunes that still has power search for the iTunes Store. I also use it for monitoring when I stream on RUclips.
this is slowly becoming my favourite channel
The MacBook Air killed the netbook as much as the iPad.
The MacBook Air WAS a netbook.
Thanks for making this video. In 2010-ish I had a Lenovo netbook with an intel Atom, and I was wondering where they went. My next computer was the 11" MacBook Air, which was SO much more powerful. Now I have a 12" MacBook with an i7 (really an m7) and 16gb RAM.
It’s crazy seeing how much technology has changed in just 10 years
fr tech a decade ago looked so clunky and primitive but now it looks so clean and sleek and a billion times more powerful
I agree with most of what was said. I own a dell laptop and iPad Pro 10.5 (Smart Keyboard and pencil). I love my 10.5 and use it everywhere even at work. My laptop gathers more and more dust. I realized I rarely use my laptop, but miss the bigger screen. 2 days ago I purchased the iPad Pro 12.9. We also use iPad Mini 4 at work. (Former Dell Netbook owner)
3:50 with these statements, you've never owned a quality higher end netbook..
well….. i have a toshiba satelite click mini XD
I have the feeling the macbook air would also fit to the needs of a netbook. Or also the microsoft tablets, because they run windows, so not just mobileapps. But both are too expensive to purchase just for the needs of occasional mobile usage of a computer. Netbooks were also from a time when smartphone-displays were to small for longtime-usage.
Dude my old computer had an 1 hour battery, and drained 5% every 1 minute...
I hope Apple can get their act together and make another great product in the near future.
It's wild how you posted this right before they completely changed desktop and notebook computers forever by making ARM devices that didn't suck ass, now im genuinely optimistic their crazy vr headset can pan out. apple's future seems brighter now than its ever been lol
Netbook was pretty useless
we only use them in data center for pinging and trace route etc light stuff test
in 2010 my high school had HP Mini's for every student. they were total pieces of crap. They always broke and we constantly had to go to the tech office and have them fixed. Then in 2012 we got MacBook Airs. They were 20x better and everyone loved them.
Awesome video as always :)
Netbooks: *exist*
Apple: I’m about to end this man’s whole career.
I love iPads for what they are, however I don't even completely agree that they are better than a Netbook at everything. They have no actual addressable file system, you can't install third party software outside the Apple app store, not many peripherals can be used with it, etc... Even a decade later iPad Pro should be on a new iPad OS that works more like a real computer.
Sean C. Have you seen the new keynote about iOS 13 and iPad OS?
Correct! The iPad is NOT a laptop "replacement" in the same way a Netbook could be. An iPad is NOT MacOS, but a Netbook can be Windows or Linux, Like a "real" laptop or desktop. A "Chromebook" likewise cannot be a "true" laptop/desktop replacement. It's about the software. A netbook/ultrabook uses REAL desktop/laptop apps.
James Slick And the iPad uses REAL mobile device technology! Thanks to the procreate app, I barely touch photoshop anymore 🧐
I did an exchange with a rich school and the choir director had an iPad in the first month of them being sold. Tripped me out
Hi Greg hope you’re having a great day and thank you so much for your great videos
remember when my parents prefered buying a new netbook every 1-2 years instead of buying a good laptop that lasted. glad i finally switched to the mac side of things (macbook pro 15" 2018).
Chromebooks are overpriced, slow and have awful software.
Doctor Who Memories I’m with you all the way
My school uses them sadly
The first two things you stated are patently false. There are Chromebooks i have used in the 200 dollar range which were much faster than any pc in the 500-700 dollar range. The third is debatable because it really depends on what you need out of the os. It is howver not bad software. It is a hell of alot more stable than windows and even mac os in some cases with how barebones it is.
Actually they are half decent and are good for normal tasks, but I got to say an iPad is way better and faster than a Chromebook.
@AppleGuy80Games I used to go a school were we had to pay £300 to have one (yes it was ours to keep after school). We could have done the exact same things with the budget iPad and it would have been 10x quicker. What can a chrome book actually do? We pay £300 for a machine that can surf the internet. I agree with you, they are slow and painful to use.
Man, I’ll try Awake with a cup of coffee!!!😆
my entire school uses chrome books, which is a huge improvement from the trash MacBook airs that they were using
I’ve always found Apple much easier to use. When I was in high school, our computer class was all Microsoft, and I couldn’t understand most of it, even the basics. Then that year, my parents brought home a MacBook Pro for me (I was always on the family computer writing stories). Never went back to Microsoft again!
I have never liked the IPad. If it was running a fully fledged OS like OSX then i could understand. But it is just a big screened IPod.
The netbook's issues are both the OS and the hardware. If they ran a lighter OS (something like Xubuntu) and were made out of nicer materials and had smaller bezels, then i think they would be more popular. The problem with chomeOS is the locked down nature. This is why people are less likely to go for a chrome book.
iOS works incredibly differently on an iPad than on an iPod or iPhone. The software makes it not “just a big screened IPod [sic].”
The netbook conversation went all the back to Jobs’ and Ellison’s neighborhood walks in the mid- ‘90s. Reporters were listening to what both had to say and wrote stories about it. It was somewhat framed in the Windows ‘95 era of dominance. I think the first successful shot fired was the clamshell G3 PowerBook. It was like a netbook, but focused on wireless internet. Right product and the right time. However the iPad is certainly the most important device to talk about. For one, it’s just now coming into its own as we see more separation between an iPad experience and an iPhone experience. The current iPad Pro is poised to do great things once Apple and developers work out a few issues. The hardware is certainly capable. I love my iPad Pro.
Netbooks were born out of necessity in the times of 2008 recession, when many people could not afford full power laptops. Apple didn't kill it, Apple refused to enter low-cost market ;)
This is the real answer. The netbook killed the netbook. This was not a product that was meant to last long in the market. Everyone knew it was a huge compromise. No one was confused about that.
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I'm not a fan of Chrome OS. That's my opinion.
Chrome OS is just Google chrome. You can download chrome on windows and MacOS and, boom, you have Chrome OS; as well as another complete operating system.
VanMan 23 Chrome OS runs on laptops. Chrome is a browser too but not the OS itself. I can also agree with you because all Chrome OS is, is just a browser OS.
The Asus EeePC 1000HG was my first real portable computer. I started on a Windows 3.11 laptop but it never had a battery. The EeePC served me 4 years or so before I replaced it with a polycarbonate MacBook.
The iPad did destroy the netbook market at first, but then it had a resurgence with the Chromebooks. The fact is that people still wanted laptop functionality at a low price, and the iPad didn’t have many of those features. Most notably, the lack of a proper file management system, a desktop browser, and external storage support made the iPad more prone to competition from Chromebooks.
With that said, iPadOS finally gives those features to the iPad which means it could finally kill off the netbook. The iPad, with iPadOS, gains most of the laptop functionality that people wanted and it still retains the touch-oriented UI that people like. At this point, Chromebooks have no purpose left. It’s not as capable as the iPad on iPadOS due to the lack of app support for Chrome OS. Not even price can save Chromebooks because iPads start at $330 or even lower when bought in other retailers. Overall, iPadOS would be the final nail in the coffin for the small market netbooks and Android tablets have left.
Apple didnt destroy the netbook because it didnt die . Now they just call them Cheap laptops or tablet -with keyboards and ultrabooks still exist and they destroyed the tablet sales. Original netbooks where by design BAD laptops with too small screen to work . they just got better and bigger
I still prefer my netbook any day. Even if my current desktop is 11426% faster.
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I bought an HP Mini netbook in 2013 as my first portable computing device. It came with Windows 7. The thing was so slow and had so few RAM that sites like Facebook would take forever to load, if at all. I replaced it with a real laptop just one year later because the tiny 50GB hard drive had already failed.