ECU Tuning for Idiots - Standalone vs Piggyback vs Re-flashing

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  • Опубликовано: 1 мар 2024
  • Most people have no idea how to tune a car or what's involved, and I don't like that. TUNE ALL THE STUFF.
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  • @GrumpyIan
    @GrumpyIan 4 месяца назад +87

    "And luckily I speak fluent idiot."
    *Gasp*
    Brother?!?!

  • @HanhiEmo
    @HanhiEmo 4 месяца назад +76

    activate windows had me 😁

  • @patrickcrabb6212
    @patrickcrabb6212 4 месяца назад +32

    Problems occurred, uncle Rodney stuck in the dyno fan.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +13

      What are you telling me for? Get him out

  • @foxtrot1770
    @foxtrot1770 4 месяца назад +17

    Instructions unclear piston number 3 now has a Pentium 2 shaped hole.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +9

      The Pentium II goes in the dumpster, not your engine

  • @Vaino_Hotti
    @Vaino_Hotti 4 месяца назад +21

    Someone had effed with the transmission tune in my 6L40e and I literally could not find a person in Finland willing to flash the PCM for me as LT1 PCM flashing has a brick-y reputation (and I was about 20 years late). So I googled a ton and I did it myself. Software to read/write and a good tuning software to modify LT1 pcm files are free online, so why the hell not. Only needed an OBD1/ALDL cable.
    I haven't done much, but by downloading a stock tune and a bunch of modified tunes I got the idea of what to do and by copying and pasting bits from the here and there. After a few weekends and test drive, I have a tune I'm pretty happy with, I managed to fix the nonsense with the trans, didn't brick the PCM and learned something new.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +7

      Re-flashing is definitely a viable option, you just have to be very careful and do your research like you did. I'm currently attempting to re-flash the tune on my Sentra, there's a lot involved and all the software is open source.
      When you mess up when using a standalone or piggyback you just reset it and it works again, mess up when flashing a stock ECU and it's usually a couple hundred dollar mistake or more.

  • @surpeer12
    @surpeer12 4 месяца назад +33

    If this for idiots than i must be the biggest dumbass in the world😅

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +25

      You can't be the biggest dumbass in the world, I'M THE BIGGEST DUMBASS IN THE WORLD!

    • @GrumpyIan
      @GrumpyIan 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@HatersGaragewell that makes atleast 2 of us.

    • @karelpgbr
      @karelpgbr 4 месяца назад +3

      @@GrumpyIan At least 3 now

  • @SomeoneElse0
    @SomeoneElse0 4 месяца назад +9

    I simultaneously understood and had no idea what you said. I'm intrigued though

  • @kingnull2697
    @kingnull2697 4 месяца назад +15

    Thanks for the breakdown, been interested in getting into car stuff & it's nice to know how new & old stuff works.
    Oh yeah, & the EPA drown in a ditch (politically). Can we get regulatory frameworks that don't involve government bureaucrats using '70's frameworks to screw us over?

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +10

      Unfortunately the rest of the country is slowly being "Californiafied"

  • @linkerspinkers
    @linkerspinkers 4 месяца назад +7

    Thanks for the video man keep doing cool stuff

  • @putinslittlehacker4793
    @putinslittlehacker4793 4 месяца назад +7

    God I wanted to get an ecu for my model a, thank God you let me know how!

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +4

      I unironically want to tune a model A one day

  • @jackverna339
    @jackverna339 4 месяца назад +6

    Holy fuck, the Godsmack flash, that goes hard

  • @widgex343
    @widgex343 4 месяца назад +6

    I’ve been going the reflash route with my car. The programs available for my car are pretty limited unless I want to buy a tune. I’m going to try to decompile the ecu file or create a more in depth definition map before resorting to buying a tune from the only guy who can do it. Got the engine light for my cats off last week and it seems to be getting better gas mileage.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +5

      Yeah that's a big issue I have with re-flashing. you usually have to rely on other people to change certain stuff

  • @crystalzues4712
    @crystalzues4712 4 месяца назад +3

    Would love to see more videos diving into the process of going standalone. Currently working on trying to put a b16a and a haltec in a 1989 Honda Prelude.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +2

      I love 3rd gen preludes, I don't see them often enough. Just persist long enough and you'll finish it

  • @disco_mobile79
    @disco_mobile79 4 месяца назад +4

    Big fan of your Sundance. I have a 1993 Plymouth Acclaim with a 2.5 and have been wanting to do a 2.5 turbo swap.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +3

      There's enough of a cult following for our cars that a 2.5 turbo swap shouldn't be too difficult. I think fwdperformance sells the OEM ecu's with different tunes for it.

    • @disco_mobile79
      @disco_mobile79 4 месяца назад

      @@HatersGarage So true. I've seen the price of these things double as of recent. Thanks for the pointer pally.

  • @eliasdidit
    @eliasdidit Месяц назад

    Bro your channel is nuts, definetly expected way more subs than that

  • @surpeer12
    @surpeer12 4 месяца назад +3

    Yey new vid 🎉

  • @captainchicken8983
    @captainchicken8983 3 месяца назад +1

    sweet lil sleeper you got there, kinda crazy seeing that mpfi intake on a 4 door sundance lol

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  3 месяца назад

      Yeah it's been a fun platform to mess around with

  • @timo1294
    @timo1294 3 месяца назад

    Companies like ECUmaster also make Plug and play adapters for some vehicles. And for my car my tuner did custom wiring to the oem ecu harness. I just had to route an imap tube to the intake (ecumaster has a sensor inside the ECU) and hat to wire a wideband to the ecu.

  • @ackey3363
    @ackey3363 4 месяца назад +1

    Doing brain surgery blindfolded, that had me rollin

  • @piatas5646
    @piatas5646 4 месяца назад +1

    the postal music

  • @Noble4Truths
    @Noble4Truths 4 месяца назад

    Yea, Godsmack!!

  • @garielgrenadius7564
    @garielgrenadius7564 Месяц назад

    Short and sweet. Perfect video, especially the 2% comment. So very true.

  • @zyzuchkavlog
    @zyzuchkavlog 4 месяца назад +3

    Good video, but IMHO soldering is not the best way since it will oxidize quite quickly (3-4 months). Not a problem if wire is new and isolated correctly, but it happens rarely. Twisting wires works great (if there's not gonna be a ton of current flowing)

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +4

      I haven't had any issues with soldered joints years later. Also I understand crimping, but TWISTING?!?

    • @zyzuchkavlog
      @zyzuchkavlog 4 месяца назад

      @@HatersGarage slav ghetto techniques

    • @ToTheGAMES
      @ToTheGAMES 2 месяца назад

      If soldering is that bad, why don't electronics like computers de"solder" themselfs?

    • @zyzuchkavlog
      @zyzuchkavlog Месяц назад

      @@ToTheGAMES they actually do from time and thermal cycles, but here oxidization and possible strain on wires could speed up this process.
      ps im not telling soldering is bad, but twisting is a real alternative for THIS use case

    • @tupcho33
      @tupcho33 Месяц назад

      Twist and solder - soldering keeps it at place , twist is making the contact "better" , but in general, as an electrician for about 15 years now , i have never had an issue

  • @YEmilio
    @YEmilio Месяц назад

    its the first channel that make me sub on the first one with out the like and subscribe BS (basically if a channel side i dont do it)

  • @air-headedaviator1805
    @air-headedaviator1805 4 месяца назад +1

    Tuning cars are one of those things that are talked so casually, yet is way more complicated than most are willing to explain. At the end of the day the number-one rule is it costs a lot of money and time, and is wrought with potential failure, so don’t do it to the daily

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад

      You can do it somewhat cheaply, my Microsquirt setup for example was about $800 sensors and all. It took me forever to install my first standalone, but I'm confident I could do a simple setup in a couple months now.

  • @docjoecornpusher5966
    @docjoecornpusher5966 4 месяца назад

    ok so id like to add, (from my own car on "ecutek" with pro license self tunes from stock file) its not just rom. they open up the full operating power of the ecu to allow for extra tables, im talking in the 100's most of you dont see. it add 6 inputs and 4 out puts for signals, so it can run a v8 on a stock brz ecu or add your extra sensors like afr psi e85 ect. and make you own table with xy info and reaction. It complete gets rid of the factory firmware where a dealer can not see the ecu anymore. so yea basically a standalone now with stock. even a boost controller on a na ecu not 3rd party lol

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад

      That's actually wicked cool. They really left the security for those ECU's wide open, huh? You've basically got all the features on an MS3. Most people don't have that much tunability out of their stock computer unfortunately.

    • @docjoecornpusher5966
      @docjoecornpusher5966 3 месяца назад

      thats just ecutek is goat. ms3 v69 is what im currently doing for my buddy's and yea its all the same just ms3 is germen and they have f'ed up naming@@HatersGarage

  • @nuxter6210
    @nuxter6210 4 месяца назад +2

    am gonna reflash my 60hp shitbox now thanks

  • @anotheryoutubeuser9633
    @anotheryoutubeuser9633 4 месяца назад +3

    Like your channel Broh, have a lot of potencial, so. I hate everyone too , okbye

  • @ChasePhilport
    @ChasePhilport 4 месяца назад

    how do i turbo my subaro i pot avideo on my channel but it isnt worke

  • @altarismichaelszone2747
    @altarismichaelszone2747 4 месяца назад +1

    So you're telling me, I'm gonna need more than a hammer??

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +2

      Depends how good you are with a hammer

  • @sodapop6012
    @sodapop6012 4 месяца назад +1

    You ever run a microsquirt? Thinking of running one on my MR2.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +4

      My Sundance is running Microsquirt, I like it. They just came out with a mini MS3 that's similar to Microsquirt but with more features.

  • @quadracycle4000
    @quadracycle4000 3 месяца назад

    Hey, I'm also an idiot! You forgot the zeroth ECU type: writing software from scratch on a microcontroller. Talk about involved 😂

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  3 месяца назад

      Yikes, hard pass on that.. lol

  • @poprawa
    @poprawa 4 месяца назад +1

    Yup, a year with poorly driving car is indeed about a minimum for uncommon setup, that you will mess around as a pioneer.

    • @poprawa
      @poprawa 4 месяца назад

      But on the other part, for properly common setup it is like 10 hours lol

  • @kdesikdosi5900
    @kdesikdosi5900 4 месяца назад

    ah ok good to know

  • @SS-mk2zi
    @SS-mk2zi 4 месяца назад

    time to turn the toaster into a racecar

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  4 месяца назад +1

      Most race cars begin as toasters

  • @Die_Landkaninchen
    @Die_Landkaninchen Месяц назад

    Will you ever activate windows🤔

  • @lhgt1324
    @lhgt1324 4 месяца назад

    I wish bosch ecus were a bit more cheaper🥹

  • @riotcailin
    @riotcailin 4 месяца назад +1

    I am gonna install windows 11 on my ECU, wish me luck.

  • @novosactos
    @novosactos 4 месяца назад +2

    Speeduino

  • @gtaashwagandhaman7551
    @gtaashwagandhaman7551 4 месяца назад

    What do you recommend for OBD1?!🤔

  • @cafn8ed74
    @cafn8ed74 2 месяца назад

    Since this is intended to be an idiot guide, here's an idiot question. If your car has a MAF sensor, does that take the place of the MAP sensor? If so, is one easier to tune than the other?

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  2 месяца назад +1

      Usually it's other way around, A simple setup will have a MAP sensor but no MAF sensor. you can add a MAF sensor to aid with tuning, but it's not mandatory.

  • @cmbp435
    @cmbp435 4 месяца назад +1

    thanks, i hate it

  • @haileybrooks8658
    @haileybrooks8658 4 месяца назад

    🫶

  • @ObsoleteGamercom
    @ObsoleteGamercom 4 месяца назад

    Hell yeah nice to see the Sundance in action!