I suggest jujiken (十字剣) which means 'cross sword' because if a japanese blacksmith produced something like this back then after being inspired by european swords they would probably name it something similar
At 8:30 I'm with Tyranth on this. It is a falcion. If he'd re-riveted the scales after trimming them to match the exact shape of the tang (I'd hate to try wielding a sword with that thin of a handle) then it'd be a messer. "Scimitar" really is just a term to imply a xenos (alien, as in from outside of Western Europe) manufacture to add a "coolness" and awe factor to something that really isn't all that different from what was made locally.
The "Cross-Guarded Katana/O-katana", shortened to the "Guarded Katana" or "Cross Katana." Or the "Cruciform Katana." A lot of swords have descriptive names so I thought these would fit!
Although rare, some historical examples of re-hilted katana blades did exist. I recall europeans being quite fascinated with katana blades and I do believe certain wealthy collectors had katana blades rehilted in a messer or falchion-like manner. I need to track down some sources.
So... This is basically a katana blade on a longsword hilt. It would be interesting to see how it compares to a longsword blade with a katana-style hilt.
@@TheChiog *"That's basically the same thing!":* Looks and sounds slightly less annoying than the _"literally"_ one so, I'll take his way in this case _(but yes, you're "basically" right as well \s)._
Based on how Miyamoto Musashi talks about swords, I've often thought that he might have wielded his katana more like a military saber than a longsword. To that end I'd like to see a swept-hilt or basket-hilt katana and wakizashi combo.
That's the thing, this clickbait channel tries to get you to click by saying dumb things like "katana SUCKS, we made it BETTER!" when in reality the katana wasnt supposed to be used like a longsword where youd get into these grapple binds with a huge cross guard. If that's what you find yourself doing when katana sparring then you're doing it wrong. Obviously the Japanese didn't feel the need to have a larger guard otherwise they would have made them larger easily. And we do find examples with larger guards occasionally.
Doubt it. He emphasized using a shorter than average katana with both hands for control and speed over anything else. His dual wielding gimmick is just that, a gimmick; when talking about real.combat he preferred things that were more reliable and gave the user the most options, including grappling.
@@leonardomarquesbellini That's literally the opposite of what Musashi says in his book. He emphasized learning to wield a sword in one hand from the start of your training. He says he doesn't like two-handing a sword, because it limits your movements and restricts your hands. He actually says that it's not speed, but rhythm that wins a duel; striking too fast makes your blows sloppy and too much power puts you off balance. As far as calling dual wielding a gimmick, rapier/dagger duelists would disagree. Regardless, the way Musashi views it, he effectively said that because the swordsmen of his country wore two swords, it's better to use both to survive, than to die with one of them dangling uselessly at your side. There's a whole lot more evidence for Musashi's dueling style being one-handed, but I'm not writing an essay here. If you take the time to read Musashi's words, there's no way you could mistake that his dueling style was anything other than one-handed. He probably didn't dual-wield in all situations, but I'm very certain he preferred one-handed, because he said so himself and I'll take his word over yours.
I looked up an anagram generator for katana and messer and found a name I love… the “Eastman saker”. Saker is a type falcon that’s located across Europe, Asia and North Africa so I kinda think it fits.
@@PremonitorWhiteCrow I just looked up a random site but it’s Inge's Anagram Generator. Also it doesn’t provide you with a definition or breakdown I just saw what interested me and looked up the words meanings to see if it made sense
Ochion is my suggestion for its name. O from O-katana, chion from falchion. Sounds like Ocean which means vast sea and I think that metaphorically represents the Asian and European elements.
@@mundanestream5524 yeah I gotta say that works better, or just really kludge it up like Falkana. just sounds rad. the o- prefix just means 'big' so... it shouldn't be all that the katana part is contributing to the name. Apparently the word falchion derives from a root meaning 'sickle' so one could maybe do a translate and add 'kama' into the name of this thing.
Great work once again, the finish on this one is super clean!!!! This is like something you might find half way along the silk road in ancient times, made by an excentric wondering blacksmith with a passion for weapon fusion!!!!
I feel like it’s going to be very top heavy without the long sword cross guard. As for aesthetics, though, I think it’s going to look pretty cool and unique. Like a long gladius without a pommel. 🤔
@Totsy30 I agree, it would probably be a very bad langsword and a very top heqvy katana, although on the katana comparison side you also gain a second edge and reach so it might be worth it depending on the blade used as a base for the conversion 🤔
This is basically what I always thought Mihawk's giant sword from One Piece which you covered in an earlier video was: A giant katana with an even more oversized crossguard.
A comparison between this european hilted O-katana and the Ronin Katana Falchion would be very interesting to me. I also think that Swords of this style would be very popular if manufacturers were to start selling them. I've been adoring this series of videos up to this point. It's ignited a fire inside of me for something I didn't even know I wanted!
For the name, let me recommend calling it the OSHAtana. Because this one has proper hand protection. Edit: for non-Americans, OSHA is the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. It's a government agency that fines you if your property doesn't have guardrails in the right places and stuff like that.
For an actual name to give the sword itself, how about '西風' - as written it means 'West Wind', and could be pronounced either as 'Nishikaze', or 'Seifū' (which can also mean 'a breath of fresh air').
Yeah, the depictions of a "tachi" that I'm seeing online are more about the handle part being complimentary to the blade part's curvature. Even the ones that seem to have straight looking handles still imply a little bit of curvature at the ends of them and I guess it comes from the hilt's curved or curved-ish (at the end of it I mean) shape inside.
Usually was but doesn't have to be. It's more about the way it's carried and the edge geometry. And length but that's more when compared to a Katana and not Ookatana.
@@oxvendivil442 yeah most katanas indeed have curved hilts. Unlike most swords that have curve on the hilt curves towards the blade. Katana handles have slight curve towards the spine almost like the entire sword has slight continual arc. Tachis usually tend to be more drastically curved from the hilt
Just called it a Heron Blade in reference to the Wheel of Time's Heron Marked blade, because both this one and the first one both match the description of those swords to a frightening level.
Yes, but didn't Jordan describe the quillons as more similar to the longsword that Tyranth is holding at the end of the vid? Still a great name! I Second!
My favorite weapon in blade and sorcery (from the mmp mod) is the bastard saber, which is extremely similar to this. So I suggest that it’s a bastard saber.
Some name suggestions: Scimi-tachi seitachi 西太刀 (lit. west tachi) wayo- tachi 和洋太刀 you know, because o-tachi becomes wayo-tachi, literally meaning a Japanese-western hybrid tachi
I honestly like both of the blades you did Tyranth. Yes the first one was made with cheap metal parts sub par material but you did the scimitana well. Now what I call the scimidachi looks amazing. And is one of the things I was doing with my next sword build.
It's a good theory, don't wanna look like a dick, but, it is in fact just a katana with European falchion style guard and a Chinese crossbowman sword hilt construction and a European pommel. The katana is the blade part, so fitting a katana to different fittings doesn't make it not a katana
Hi guys! I dunno if you know about the Honor Harrington scifi books, but the setting features a nation, Grayson, which basically reverse engineered their swordsmanship from books and movies. Hence their swords are basically described like this.
Yōro-tachi ("Euro-Tachi"). It encompasses the unholy fusion of the two designs, as well as its striking similarities to certain European blade designs.
It's for this reason why I considered the Tachi/Ogatana the equivalent (in terms of length) to bastard swords rather than the Uchigatana. THe blade lengths are more comparable. On the other hand the Uchigatana is closer to an arming sword with a longsword (two-handed) handle
I still stand with these being Tyranthian style swords. Although, I must say (while a misnomer) "Tyranthanmesser" sounds pretty cool too, if I do say so myself.
What would be the pros and cons of a katana with a swept hilt like many renaissance rapiers have? Not all rapiers had a full knuckle guard extending to the pommel and in theory a swept hilt with an extension of the handle to accommodate a second hand could look and perform amazingly well.
You know, Red Dragon make a steel version of that pommel form the synthetic training swords that was used as a replacement on the original katana conversion.
crafter's pride, and then Shad just cuts that noodle like a chef cutting a cucumber to pieces, cackling crazily... what a sight. :) a possible name could be hayabusachi, because falchion = falcon... at least it sounds like it. also this sword seems to be fast. I bet it offers an extra attack each round, just like that.
A Western crossguard may be advantageous, and a pommel may improve balance, but a threaded rat-tail is the WORST possible way to hold anything together that will ever be subjected to impact and vibration.
Maybe a faltana would be a good name? As for new ideas and cursed combinations, really the only oddity that I'd want to see tested would be where do you draw the line between a sword with a really long handle, and a spear?
Personally I think it would have been better to just made a tsuba with a crossguard. Inspired by a crossguard with dual side rings. I'm picturing a larger more protective version of the Musashi style tsuba with quillons. That way it wouldn't be moving as far away from its traditional Japanese design. But rather, keeping the overall Japanese design and feel, but bringing in the idea of more hand protection.
@@dhampirdp3489 Yeah... But that was an abomination of terrible design. It was basically a tsuba with a god awful and pitifully small crossguard above it. Also, it was ugly as hell and blatantly just a tsuba and a crossguard that were never intended to go together, slapped together on a single sword.. What I'm picturing could be made from a single piece of 5-8mm sheet steel. By either cutting it out by hand, milling it or laser cutting it out. Some filing work to round over the edges. Then assemble the sword.
I had a similar thought. Maybe a long tsuba, not full crossguard size but bigger so that it can actually protect the hand kinda like a flat, oblong cup hilt lol
@@benjaminotalora363 historical Katana and Tachi did have larger tsuba. The smaller type we commonly see these days comes from the standardisation of Katana during peace times.
Would be cool to see same thing but with katana hand wrap instead of simple thin cord. Probably would have been able to improve balance by starting with oversized pommel and grind it off, checking balance till you get it right. That or could do a sectioned pommel where one could add spacer weights to tune balance slightly forward or back. Loved the format, excellent episode! Tachimitar maybe? Only need to drop the s from scimitar and h jump one place forward to interlock both. Tashadtar to bring channel into it!
I think my favorite thing about this video, is the concept that, in between filming Shad likes to stand in his backyard... alone... stare at pool noodles... and occasionally practice slapping techniques.
Katilij. Spirit of the Katana and Kilij. ... or go all Japanese, maybe "Tsurugi no Tamashii" (剣の魂), which translates to "Soul of the Sword" or "Spirit of the Blade." This name captures the essence of the katana while alluding to its fusion with the crossguard or "bodyment of the cross,"
Here's an idea for another freaky hybrid weapon! How about a sort of "two-headed long-mace"? Essentially taking something like a bo staff, and putting mace heads on both ends?
How to make a messer: Step 1 Buy a katana Step 2 Give said katana a longsword handle and cross guard Step 3 Enjoy your "home made" messer Edit: i stand by my messer comment Even If they say its a falchion or a scimitar
@@GerdLPluu What you mean is Carcinisation (the one about the crabs). So, it'd be more like *Falchionisation* I think (that is, if we consider that the blade itself has made the change to adapt to its user/environment) xd.
Health and longevity's cultivation's blessings to you and all shadeversity bros and your familys🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🙏🙌🏽🙏🙌🏽🙏 . Great content as always 😂🤘🏽and hope you all are able to work together well and good like this onwards as well.🙌🏽🙏🤘🏽🔥👏🏽🙌🏽 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉. The katana looks great👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾. Just thought that the handle seemed less in its length or maybe it is my my mind in confusion 😅. - mad guy out
A Katona isn't a messer because it doesn't have a full tang, It's not a falchion because it doesn't have a peended pommel. The difference between a falchion, and messer is how the grip is attached. You made a falchion because of how you attached your grip.
The only thing I would say is, in future rehiltings, try grinding down and threading the tang itself, rather then welding on the thread of another sword. Just thinking of long term durability, other then that, this is a beautiful piece and one I would love to own.
Basically a heron marked sword. The bevel of a katana would be the best design on a sword that never loses its edge and is almost indestructible, and the European guard design would be the ideal hand protection. Though I think a complex guard more akin to a swiss saber would better pair with a long o-katana like blade for a fantasy sword like the heron marked blade.
Here’s an idea that I find interesting and would really love to see: “fix” the longsword next by thinking in mostly the opposite terms and making the longsword fit the usage of a katana. Dull it on one side to allow for easy noto (sheathing), give it a hard wooden scabbard, remove the bulky cross guard that only gets in the way and instead add a smaller disc that’s enough to keep your hands from sliding onto the blade and allow for breaking habaki during unsheathing. And so on and so forth, you get the idea. If there’s time you could even go one step further and try to get the longsword to also fulfill the other important role of the katana as a spiritual item, “the soul of the samurai”, by imagining what “the soul of the knight” could look like and what that would mean for a longsword beyond “just” adding some christian imagery. I think the results would be really interesting! :)
I love these rehilting videos. I would like to see you guys get more creative with designs like this (curved crossguard, made from scratch handle as opposed to repurposing the tsuka, maybe find a way to use loveless bolts as fasteners). I would LOVE to see you give this treatment to a moroha-zukuri (double edged tip) katana blade.
Im going to rehilt a Coldsteel Kreigsmesser soon so im loving this video iv been waiting for it for a while the original Scimitana video is why i subscribed now im waiting for the full review video and the rehilting of the Longsword with Katana fittings as inspiration for my own rehilting Every notification iv gotten from shadiversity and even RUclips in general iv gotten all excited hoping it was the full review of this Scimitachi
It's probably challenging to make, but I want to see something like a spear with a cutting part added near the tip. Similar to a swordstaff, but much more focused on the spear design, while still having the ability to cut decently so your only attack isn't a stab.
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Obviously it's a scimitachi.
I don't know I think it should be more like O-Simana.
That actually is more clever than scimitarna hahah
@@TheHorzaboraScimōtana
I thought he called it the Sword of Content in the video?
-"this sort of content"- *"this,* Sword of Content"
@@kingmasterlord the Sword of Content is not it's type but its title. We need to decide what type of sword is such a magnificent sword
This is much closer to what I imagined what Rand's sword looked like in Wheel of Time.
Finally, another Wot fan🎉🎉
A perfect balance to dance with blades.
I suggest jujiken (十字剣) which means 'cross sword' because if a japanese blacksmith produced something like this back then after being inspired by european swords they would probably name it something similar
NICE!
LOVED IT!!
This is freaking genius, I absolutely love it. I like how you fully went on with a Japanese name, it's just so much more natural.
There we have the name.
Give this guy a raise
At 8:30 I'm with Tyranth on this. It is a falcion. If he'd re-riveted the scales after trimming them to match the exact shape of the tang (I'd hate to try wielding a sword with that thin of a handle) then it'd be a messer. "Scimitar" really is just a term to imply a xenos (alien, as in from outside of Western Europe) manufacture to add a "coolness" and awe factor to something that really isn't all that different from what was made locally.
We need more cursed weapon combinations…. Anybody got some good ones ?
A Jian and rapier
Put a basket hilt on one, or on something else it shouldn't be.
@@sakun117 Double basket hilts on nunchuks. Confuse and amuse at the same time!
Flambarge with a bell guard
I just want to see more judicial dueling weapons, those are out there
The Honor Harrington series had swords designed this way in Weber's "Field of Honor", a katana pattern blade and a Western style hilt.
Oh yeah! Except they just called them swords. Sooo not sure which name I like best. Either way, that is one of my favorite series.
The "Cross-Guarded Katana/O-katana", shortened to the "Guarded Katana" or "Cross Katana." Or the "Cruciform Katana."
A lot of swords have descriptive names so I thought these would fit!
Cross Katana sounds pretty good.
There is already a classification for that, which is a Nanban Tsuba, a Western style guard.
Cruciform katana has a ring to it
@@Tradleyor you could continue with the word blending theme and call it the crucitana
You had me at Cruciform Katana
Although rare, some historical examples of re-hilted katana blades did exist. I recall europeans being quite fascinated with katana blades and I do believe certain wealthy collectors had katana blades rehilted in a messer or falchion-like manner. I need to track down some sources.
Oh god, the closing statement. That is going to be a bloody eldritch horror.
So... This is basically a katana blade on a longsword hilt.
It would be interesting to see how it compares to a longsword blade with a katana-style hilt.
Not sure why you said "basically", that's literally what it is.
@@TheChiog *"That's basically the same thing!":* Looks and sounds slightly less annoying than the _"literally"_ one so, I'll take his way in this case _(but yes, you're "basically" right as well \s)._
There is the term Nanban Tsuba where the tsuba was western influences. Maybe a Nanban O-katana since they changed the whole grip.
I think it will have a balance problem, since a longsword relies on the weight of the pommel for balance, and a katana hilt has no pommel.
@@ccelik97 how about "this is a katana blade on a longsword hilt" and leave out the "triggerwords"
I am so in love with these "Asian fusion" blades you guys have done. In a fantasy setting I think they are the ultimate elvish blades. So cool.
Just call it a Heron Sword.
The wheel turns.
Absolutely needs a heron engrave on the blade
The wheel weaves as the wheel wills
Came here to say this. Just needs some herons on the Habaki.
I was thinking the same.
Tyrone clearly eager to show chad his new blade and shad eager to receive gives me good vibes thanks gentlemen,great duo
What?
That sword is clearly a Shaditana.
Correct
This is the one.
I agree with this, on the provision that it only gets to be called the “shaditana” after it gets a custom back-mounted “shabbard”.
You mean Shatana.
Thats the shorter version
Well done, Tyranth. Lovely craftsmanship.
Based on how Miyamoto Musashi talks about swords, I've often thought that he might have wielded his katana more like a military saber than a longsword. To that end I'd like to see a swept-hilt or basket-hilt katana and wakizashi combo.
That's the thing, this clickbait channel tries to get you to click by saying dumb things like "katana SUCKS, we made it BETTER!" when in reality the katana wasnt supposed to be used like a longsword where youd get into these grapple binds with a huge cross guard. If that's what you find yourself doing when katana sparring then you're doing it wrong. Obviously the Japanese didn't feel the need to have a larger guard otherwise they would have made them larger easily. And we do find examples with larger guards occasionally.
@@shepherd2148 The question is if being able to do that sort of grapple binds makes you more likely to win
Doubt it. He emphasized using a shorter than average katana with both hands for control and speed over anything else. His dual wielding gimmick is just that, a gimmick; when talking about real.combat he preferred things that were more reliable and gave the user the most options, including grappling.
@@leonardomarquesbellini
That's literally the opposite of what Musashi says in his book. He emphasized learning to wield a sword in one hand from the start of your training. He says he doesn't like two-handing a sword, because it limits your movements and restricts your hands. He actually says that it's not speed, but rhythm that wins a duel; striking too fast makes your blows sloppy and too much power puts you off balance.
As far as calling dual wielding a gimmick, rapier/dagger duelists would disagree. Regardless, the way Musashi views it, he effectively said that because the swordsmen of his country wore two swords, it's better to use both to survive, than to die with one of them dangling uselessly at your side.
There's a whole lot more evidence for Musashi's dueling style being one-handed, but I'm not writing an essay here. If you take the time to read Musashi's words, there's no way you could mistake that his dueling style was anything other than one-handed. He probably didn't dual-wield in all situations, but I'm very certain he preferred one-handed, because he said so himself and I'll take his word over yours.
@@yashuacanno8019 as another who tries to understand musashi-donos words completely , i would agree you are right on the money .
I looked up an anagram generator for katana and messer and found a name I love… the “Eastman saker”. Saker is a type falcon that’s located across Europe, Asia and North Africa so I kinda think it fits.
Damn! U got a link for that generator?
@@PremonitorWhiteCrow I just looked up a random site but it’s Inge's Anagram Generator. Also it doesn’t provide you with a definition or breakdown I just saw what interested me and looked up the words meanings to see if it made sense
Ochion is my suggestion for its name. O from O-katana, chion from falchion. Sounds like Ocean which means vast sea and I think that metaphorically represents the Asian and European elements.
Okay i like it
But what about Faltana?
@@mundanestream5524 yeah I gotta say that works better, or just really kludge it up like Falkana. just sounds rad. the o- prefix just means 'big' so... it shouldn't be all that the katana part is contributing to the name.
Apparently the word falchion derives from a root meaning 'sickle' so one could maybe do a translate and add 'kama' into the name of this thing.
Ochion man, take me by the hand
Lead me to the land that you understand
My vote is Ochion
Ochion (or Olchion) sounds really good. Take my vote!
Great work once again, the finish on this one is super clean!!!!
This is like something you might find half way along the silk road in ancient times,
made by an excentric wondering blacksmith with a passion for weapon fusion!!!!
Longsword with katana fittings next, hell yeah!
I think that will end up being the worst of both worlds.
I feel like it’s going to be very top heavy without the long sword cross guard. As for aesthetics, though, I think it’s going to look pretty cool and unique. Like a long gladius without a pommel. 🤔
@Totsy30
I agree, it would probably be a very bad langsword and a very top heqvy katana, although on the katana comparison side you also gain a second edge and reach so it might be worth it depending on the blade used as a base for the conversion 🤔
I definitely think adding the original stingray/snake skin, wrap and pin from the katanas handle would really pull one of these together
This is basically what I always thought Mihawk's giant sword from One Piece which you covered in an earlier video was: A giant katana with an even more oversized crossguard.
You both are absolutely precious
so lets take the Ka from Katana, and the mitar from scimitar and call it a "Kamitar", alternatively a "Katar"
Scitana?
Skitana
Kitar is already a weapon. It's an Indian push dagger
"Kami" (God) + "~tar" (sharp/~cutter) = *"God Cutter"*
@@gostislavszaposki Hail Satana!
A Swaxe - a sword blade with an axelike protrusion on one edge, at or near the the tip of the blade.
Would love to see a katana or wakizashi changed to a one handed saber with a knuckle bow and finger ring.
Look up kyu Gunto
Yes thatd be awesome
@@dhampirdp3489 The ww2 saber, right? Isn't that two handed?
a Trench Katana. I'll love that.
@@asahearts1 both depends on the blade used
I love it. Kinda like a Bastard Sword variant. Bastard Falchion? Bastard Scimitar? I say scrap naming conventions all together and call it the Tyranth
Oh no! They actually did it.
A comparison between this european hilted O-katana and the Ronin Katana Falchion would be very interesting to me. I also think that Swords of this style would be very popular if manufacturers were to start selling them.
I've been adoring this series of videos up to this point. It's ignited a fire inside of me for something I didn't even know I wanted!
Call that your "Messer in law"
Or if Skal got his Skalchion, then this can be the Shadchion.
Bloody artist! Looks stunning!
For the name, let me recommend calling it the OSHAtana.
Because this one has proper hand protection.
Edit: for non-Americans, OSHA is the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. It's a government agency that fines you if your property doesn't have guardrails in the right places and stuff like that.
yes
I propose that this fine blade be officially dubbed the Tyranth! After its creator.
The 二重鍔 “Niju Tsuba” literally meaning double guard
You could also use 十鍔 because it looks like a cross. They did that for some types of yari IIRC.
@@kaltaron1284 how does that sound?
I’m calling it Steve O’Brian.
For an actual name to give the sword itself, how about '西風' - as written it means 'West Wind', and could be pronounced either as 'Nishikaze', or 'Seifū' (which can also mean 'a breath of fresh air').
This is brilliant
是古?
Nisikaze' no Jujiken 西風の十字剣
cross sword of the west winds to fuse with @jackmcslay 's suggestion
OR! Or... hear me out... it could also be called "Aldieb". That's "west wind" as well...
...in the Old Tongue.
That looks REALLY nice, well done man.
I believe its only considered a Tachi if the grip/tang itself is also curved.
Yeah, the depictions of a "tachi" that I'm seeing online are more about the handle part being complimentary to the blade part's curvature. Even the ones that seem to have straight looking handles still imply a little bit of curvature at the ends of them and I guess it comes from the hilt's curved or curved-ish (at the end of it I mean) shape inside.
Usually was but doesn't have to be. It's more about the way it's carried and the edge geometry. And length but that's more when compared to a Katana and not Ookatana.
Most katanas also have a slightly curved hilt/tang.
Along with the relevant scabbard ornaments.
@@oxvendivil442 yeah most katanas indeed have curved hilts. Unlike most swords that have curve on the hilt curves towards the blade. Katana handles have slight curve towards the spine almost like the entire sword has slight continual arc. Tachis usually tend to be more drastically curved from the hilt
The look directly into the camera after this exchange is perfect 11:03
The o-bastard
The wanderer's blade (since a person who travels might have come across different swords and decided to integrate parts of them into his own blade)
Just called it a Heron Blade in reference to the Wheel of Time's Heron Marked blade, because both this one and the first one both match the description of those swords to a frightening level.
Once the heron, to set his path.
Twice the heron, to name him true.
... _Huh._ That is literally what's happening here.
Yes, but didn't Jordan describe the quillons as more similar to the longsword that Tyranth is holding at the end of the vid? Still a great name! I Second!
@@LangThoughts Maybe? It's been over a decade since I read Wheel so it very well could
My favorite weapon in blade and sorcery (from the mmp mod) is the bastard saber, which is extremely similar to this. So I suggest that it’s a bastard saber.
Some name suggestions:
Scimi-tachi
seitachi 西太刀 (lit. west tachi)
wayo- tachi 和洋太刀 you know, because o-tachi becomes wayo-tachi, literally meaning a Japanese-western hybrid tachi
Talchion ( Tal-tion) a mix between Tachi ( The original blade) and falchion
Talchion the Sword of Content, i like how it sounds 🐈
Katalchion could work too.
Nodalchion
This
Faltana?
I say longsaber. Take the edge side of that crossguard and turn it into a knuckle guard for the primary hand.
I honestly like both of the blades you did Tyranth. Yes the first one was made with cheap metal parts sub par material but you did the scimitana well. Now what I call the scimidachi looks amazing. And is one of the things I was doing with my next sword build.
I love the use of the Hanwei Tinker hilt components. They’re really plain and simple but I like them
In theory its actually becomes a two-handed falchion or a grand-messier or two handed/great or bastard saber
It's a good theory, don't wanna look like a dick, but, it is in fact just a katana with European falchion style guard and a Chinese crossbowman sword hilt construction and a European pommel. The katana is the blade part, so fitting a katana to different fittings doesn't make it not a katana
Hi guys! I dunno if you know about the Honor Harrington scifi books, but the setting features a nation, Grayson, which basically reverse engineered their swordsmanship from books and movies. Hence their swords are basically described like this.
I can't wait for the cursed longsword with katana hilt
Yōro-tachi ("Euro-Tachi"). It encompasses the unholy fusion of the two designs, as well as its striking similarities to certain European blade designs.
It's for this reason why I considered the Tachi/Ogatana the equivalent (in terms of length) to bastard swords rather than the Uchigatana. THe blade lengths are more comparable. On the other hand the Uchigatana is closer to an arming sword with a longsword (two-handed) handle
I still stand with these being Tyranthian style swords.
Although, I must say (while a misnomer) "Tyranthanmesser" sounds pretty cool too, if I do say so myself.
The Okatimatar.
What would be the pros and cons of a katana with a swept hilt like many renaissance rapiers have? Not all rapiers had a full knuckle guard extending to the pommel and in theory a swept hilt with an extension of the handle to accommodate a second hand could look and perform amazingly well.
You know, Red Dragon make a steel version of that pommel form the synthetic training swords that was used as a replacement on the original katana conversion.
Call it a Falshimatatachi, Falchion Simatar Tachi.
Great content. Always love seeing you build and test weapons and equipment.
If tyrinth wants a different name for it how about Falchana with the ch pronounced the same way as it is in Falchion?
I like this. I was thinking "Faltana," but yours might be a little cooler.
How bout falc'hata?
@@dustinbrandel59 Sounds too much like falcata imo... unless that was intentional.
crafter's pride, and then Shad just cuts that noodle like a chef cutting a cucumber to pieces, cackling crazily... what a sight. :)
a possible name could be hayabusachi, because falchion = falcon... at least it sounds like it. also this sword seems to be fast. I bet it offers an extra attack each round, just like that.
Seeing Tyranth use a Dremel makes me feel like less of a layman 😄
A Western crossguard may be advantageous, and a pommel may improve balance, but a threaded rat-tail is the WORST possible way to hold anything together that will ever be subjected to impact and vibration.
Maybe a faltana would be a good name? As for new ideas and cursed combinations, really the only oddity that I'd want to see tested would be where do you draw the line between a sword with a really long handle, and a spear?
Something like a Naginata?
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Personally I think it would have been better to just made a tsuba with a crossguard.
Inspired by a crossguard with dual side rings. I'm picturing a larger more protective version of the Musashi style tsuba with quillons. That way it wouldn't be moving as far away from its traditional Japanese design. But rather, keeping the overall Japanese design and feel, but bringing in the idea of more hand protection.
Windlass heron marked blade had something like that
@@dhampirdp3489 Yeah... But that was an abomination of terrible design. It was basically a tsuba with a god awful and pitifully small crossguard above it. Also, it was ugly as hell and blatantly just a tsuba and a crossguard that were never intended to go together, slapped together on a single sword..
What I'm picturing could be made from a single piece of 5-8mm sheet steel. By either cutting it out by hand, milling it or laser cutting it out. Some filing work to round over the edges. Then assemble the sword.
I had a similar thought. Maybe a long tsuba, not full crossguard size but bigger so that it can actually protect the hand kinda like a flat, oblong cup hilt lol
@@benjaminotalora363 historical Katana and Tachi did have larger tsuba. The smaller type we commonly see these days comes from the standardisation of Katana during peace times.
@@RainMakeR_Workshop ohh really? Guess I'll have to make some research. I've only seen display pictures where its not easy to look at the details
O-Falchiana for the name.
Would be cool to see same thing but with katana hand wrap instead of simple thin cord. Probably would have been able to improve balance by starting with oversized pommel and grind it off, checking balance till you get it right. That or could do a sectioned pommel where one could add spacer weights to tune balance slightly forward or back. Loved the format, excellent episode! Tachimitar maybe? Only need to drop the s from scimitar and h jump one place forward to interlock both. Tashadtar to bring channel into it!
I think my favorite thing about this video, is the concept that, in between filming Shad likes to stand in his backyard... alone... stare at pool noodles... and occasionally practice slapping techniques.
Madmen all of you!
Calling it now, the longsword with katana hilt is gonna be like a two handed Jian. A "Chu Jian", I believe they call it. 😂
Katilij. Spirit of the Katana and Kilij. ... or go all Japanese, maybe "Tsurugi no Tamashii" (剣の魂), which translates to "Soul of the Sword" or "Spirit of the Blade." This name captures the essence of the katana while alluding to its fusion with the crossguard or "bodyment of the cross,"
Here's an idea for another freaky hybrid weapon! How about a sort of "two-headed long-mace"? Essentially taking something like a bo staff, and putting mace heads on both ends?
How to make a messer:
Step 1 Buy a katana
Step 2 Give said katana a longsword handle and cross guard
Step 3 Enjoy your "home made" messer
Edit: i stand by my messer comment Even If they say its a falchion or a scimitar
That’s pretty ‘messed’ up my guy
I agree pal, that def is a kriegsmesser with a more curved blade. I don't see why so much babble.
@@GerdLPluu What you mean is Carcinisation (the one about the crabs). So, it'd be more like *Falchionisation* I think (that is, if we consider that the blade itself has made the change to adapt to its user/environment) xd.
@@ccelik97but didn't Anthony Kiedis sing a song about Falchiornication? And then there was the TV show about it starring the guy from X-Files?
@@blackjacktrial Meh.
I like your enthusiasm for work, I have a lot of ideas, but execution is my Achilles heel.
Yessssss
@TYRANTH_ It's an Aumetachi!
Cause it's was made by Australians, and it's a Messer tachi
Shad being in the middle of casually slapping the sausage when Tyranth arrives LMAO.. this is the sort of stuff that makes this channel so wholesome
Cackatana.
You're welcome.
I find it hard to believe that a thousand years of Japanese sword smiths did not come up with a adequate cross guard.
I really love your work, Tyranth :)
I have been waiting for this for a little bit. I’m pretty excited.
Messy-Tana!
Gross Messer-katana.
Great build, and God bless!
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🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉. The katana looks great👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾. Just thought that the handle seemed less in its length or maybe it is my my mind in confusion 😅.
- mad guy out
A Katona isn't a messer because it doesn't have a full tang, It's not a falchion because it doesn't have a peended pommel.
The difference between a falchion, and messer is how the grip is attached.
You made a falchion because of how you attached your grip.
Beautiful
two handed Oschim Sword
We've had Bastard Swords.
Now meet: The Whoreson
The only thing I would say is, in future rehiltings, try grinding down and threading the tang itself, rather then welding on the thread of another sword. Just thinking of long term durability, other then that, this is a beautiful piece and one I would love to own.
I would just call it Bob
Basically a heron marked sword. The bevel of a katana would be the best design on a sword that never loses its edge and is almost indestructible, and the European guard design would be the ideal hand protection. Though I think a complex guard more akin to a swiss saber would better pair with a long o-katana like blade for a fantasy sword like the heron marked blade.
I think it looks like a Talwar honestly, just with a longer handle.
Here’s an idea that I find interesting and would really love to see: “fix” the longsword next by thinking in mostly the opposite terms and making the longsword fit the usage of a katana. Dull it on one side to allow for easy noto (sheathing), give it a hard wooden scabbard, remove the bulky cross guard that only gets in the way and instead add a smaller disc that’s enough to keep your hands from sliding onto the blade and allow for breaking habaki during unsheathing. And so on and so forth, you get the idea. If there’s time you could even go one step further and try to get the longsword to also fulfill the other important role of the katana as a spiritual item, “the soul of the samurai”, by imagining what “the soul of the knight” could look like and what that would mean for a longsword beyond “just” adding some christian imagery.
I think the results would be really interesting! :)
I love these rehilting videos. I would like to see you guys get more creative with designs like this (curved crossguard, made from scratch handle as opposed to repurposing the tsuka, maybe find a way to use loveless bolts as fasteners). I would LOVE to see you give this treatment to a moroha-zukuri (double edged tip) katana blade.
Im going to rehilt a Coldsteel Kreigsmesser soon so im loving this video iv been waiting for it for a while the original Scimitana video is why i subscribed now im waiting for the full review video and the rehilting of the Longsword with Katana fittings as inspiration for my own rehilting
Every notification iv gotten from shadiversity and even RUclips in general iv gotten all excited hoping it was the full review of this Scimitachi
I would love to see genuine kendo Japanese master reaction and review on both of those swords.
me too aryan homophobe!
It's probably challenging to make, but I want to see something like a spear with a cutting part added near the tip. Similar to a swordstaff, but much more focused on the spear design, while still having the ability to cut decently so your only attack isn't a stab.
ok now turn a katana into a rapier
An arming sword with Japanese fittings would look a little bit like a Gladius.
Man at Arms: Reforged audition tape comming along nicely
05:06 - Well, everybody should know by now that's what adults do with their time.. Slapping pool noodles like that is actually.. a growing trend now 🤤