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  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 10 месяцев назад +464

    Shad:"its against the laws of nature when it comes to swords"
    "Its a perversion against the natural order!"
    Also shad:currently wielding a longsword with a katana handle

    • @DanielMWJ
      @DanielMWJ 10 месяцев назад +15

      Checks out.

    • @Fallenangel_85
      @Fallenangel_85 10 месяцев назад +13

      The funny thing is, it's already been done historically and used a lot.
      The Korean Sain-Geom has pretty much a Tsuba like guard and a double edge.

    • @JustArt-ro3lp
      @JustArt-ro3lp 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Fallenangel_85 ooh a Korean sword? Not gonna lie I’ve never heard of such weapon thank you for enlightening me.

    • @MikePhantom
      @MikePhantom 10 месяцев назад

      and promoting AI crap

    • @H20No
      @H20No 9 месяцев назад

      @@Fallenangel_85looked at some pictures and the guard looks not much like a suba. Nor does the handle have a similar length to the sword in the video, it’s just an eastern double edged sword.

  • @RainMakeR_Workshop
    @RainMakeR_Workshop 10 месяцев назад +609

    I still want you to put a Katana wrap on the Kriegsmesser with the uncomfortable grip.

    • @blacknblueblanket1627
      @blacknblueblanket1627 10 месяцев назад +13

      That is katana

    • @jordanezell5132
      @jordanezell5132 10 месяцев назад +2

      Agreed

    • @makisonoda7925
      @makisonoda7925 10 месяцев назад +8

      A Katana is not double edged. It never will be, never can be . Putting a Katana grip and Tsuba on a double edged long sword tang does not make it a Katana nor anything equivalent to it. What Tyranth made was an abomination as he said it was , it isn’t built to last. In fact the pin to hold the long sword tang in the Katana grip was achieved only by a metal pin and glue to keep the handle on the tang. Yes the “original “ sword looks interesting, it’s fiction. Functional or not, it’s fiction. And I honestly don’t like the way a double edged blade looks with a Tsuba ( Japanese Sword guard) , and a Japanese Sword hilt looks. But that’s my personal opinion. It doesn’t matter what my opinion is. If it works, it works.

    • @DanielMWJ
      @DanielMWJ 10 месяцев назад +48

      ​​@@makisonoda7925But it's literally not fiction? It's a real thing he made. It's certainly *ahistorical*.
      And Kriegsmessers aren't double-edged if you're talking about that.

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner 10 месяцев назад +27

      @@makisonoda7925 What are you talking about? Are you sure you posted this comment in the right thread?

  • @robertjensen1438
    @robertjensen1438 10 месяцев назад +262

    I was confident I could win the duel until my opponent swung his sword at my ankles.
    Alas, I was de-feeted.

    • @michaelcamu625
      @michaelcamu625 10 месяцев назад +15

      That was terrible 😂

    • @philtkaswahl2124
      @philtkaswahl2124 10 месяцев назад +27

      As a soon-to-be-father, that's going into my future dad joke arsenal.

    • @robertjensen1438
      @robertjensen1438 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@philtkaswahl2124 Congratulations on the future little one.

    • @philtkaswahl2124
      @philtkaswahl2124 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@robertjensen1438 Thank you.

    • @Giosuke_Giogashikata
      @Giosuke_Giogashikata 10 месяцев назад +3

      Excellence at its finest, my friend

  • @gameragodzilla
    @gameragodzilla 10 месяцев назад +318

    Btw, as a Chinese person myself: Jian (剑) literally translates to sword but the main definition means double edged sword, whereas with dao (刀), which literally translates to knife, the main definition means single edged sword. That’s why the single edged sword in China is often called dadao (大刀), which literally translates to big (大) knife (刀).

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 10 месяцев назад +13

      What are small double edged knives/daggers called?

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla 10 месяцев назад +36

      @@mandowarrior123 Bishou (匕首), though I admit I never actually heard of the term before looking it up, so evidently it wasn't all that common compared to dao or jian.

    • @bigolbearthejammydodger6527
      @bigolbearthejammydodger6527 10 месяцев назад +24

      oh thats wonderful.. so a dao is literally a messer (german for knife), wonder if weird tax laws was the reason in china too.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla 10 месяцев назад +21

      @@bigolbearthejammydodger6527 Not in China because dao is literally defined as being single edge where length isn't really a legal factor, whereas the messer, I believe, is more defined by the handle construction. I'd say the more comparable legal situation to the messer and knife guilds would be how "short barrel rifles" are defined in the NFA as having stocks in modern USA, so if you have a sub-16" barrel AR-15 with just the buffer tube, it's legally a pistol (not regulated by the NFA) rather than a short-barrel rifle (regulated by the NFA). That's also why the whole pistol brace thing is in legal limbo right now.
      There's also this monstrosity to get around the AWB from 1994 to 2004: ruclips.net/video/CcNS4JdprWc/видео.htmlsi=4psFhgN-6J7Wkm_1

    • @bigolbearthejammydodger6527
      @bigolbearthejammydodger6527 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@gameragodzilla thanks for reply. interesting none the less.

  • @VegetaLF7
    @VegetaLF7 10 месяцев назад +257

    I think one of my favorite parts about how things have evolved since Nate and Tyranth joined the team is just how much the three of you guys bicker with each other. It genuinely feels like a group of friends goofing off and I love it.

    • @jeroenceulemans3715
      @jeroenceulemans3715 10 месяцев назад +14

      Yeah! Their chemistry is fantastic and it makes the vids so fun!

    • @TheSteam02
      @TheSteam02 10 месяцев назад +10

      Often times, channels that introduce new members tend to fall off quickly. Not with this channel. I genuinely believe that the content has massively improved due to the inclusion of Nate and Tyranth.

    • @benjamincoulter5237
      @benjamincoulter5237 9 месяцев назад +3

      Their friend group chemistry reminds me of the top gear chemistry

    • @LelouchVee
      @LelouchVee 8 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, the channel has this 'Top Gear with swords' vibe, in a good way

  • @richard_n
    @richard_n 10 месяцев назад +183

    I just have to say that I've really enjoyed this series on swapping out parts of swords. It's been highly educational.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla 10 месяцев назад +3

      I can imagine if guns weren't invented, there'd be Bubba Swordsmiths doing this kind of stuff like Bubba Gunsmiths already do now with guns (alongside Bubba's Pakistani cousin Ali Bubba if you look at some of the weird shit from Khyber Pass. Lotta AR/AK hybrids there).

    • @makisonoda7925
      @makisonoda7925 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah , it educational. But there’s a reason why European and Asian sword parts were not intermixed with each other. They aren’t designed to work in tandem. Although it looks interesting. Maybe it could work, maybe it does. I just prefer to keep my swords Authentic and original to the ethnic background it was made in.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@makisonoda7925 Well yeah, obviously there will be cultural differences as to why certain designs and styles came up. One thing I find fascinating is the Americans developed quick draw techniques for handguns for the same reason the Japanese developed iaijutsu. Despite the two being very different cultures, they both came up with very similar concepts for very similar reasons, to the point where there's a lot of cross-pollination between Westerns and Jidaigeki movies. That's why I always wonder if the Europeans had their own quickdraw techniques. I'd figure if two very different cultures came up with the same thing for the same reasons, then the Europeans also should've done it for their swords.
      As it stands, the main reason why the katana is still my favorite sword despite me thinking the longsword is better once the swords are already drawn (kenjutsu in Japanese swordsmanship) is the katana is much more developed for draw techniques, and as an American (who lives in Texas, no less), I very much place a high degree of importance on quick draw, both for practical reasons and because it's really cool.
      Still, there probably could be ways to combine the two, much like how there are some professionally done hybrids of the AK/AR. The Sig 556 is a gun that's very much based mechnically on the AK, but incorporates a lot of AR ergonomics.

    • @cmaslan
      @cmaslan 10 месяцев назад +1

      Synthetic swordology

  • @aliesterus1.023
    @aliesterus1.023 10 месяцев назад +70

    This video entertains me so much because Nate is usually the most positive of you three, but here Nate is spouting the most vitriol and Shad and Tyrinth are just a couple of kids having fun.

  • @tposingukiki
    @tposingukiki 10 месяцев назад +136

    Question: what sword would be the closest one to being called “The Throngler”?

    • @m0-m0597
      @m0-m0597 10 месяцев назад +18

      idk but I know about the Shlongler

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn 10 месяцев назад +3

      Whipsword.

    • @tposingukiki
      @tposingukiki 10 месяцев назад +16

      @@5peciesunkn0wn I was thinking more of an… overly dramatic Flamberge

    • @eliaspanayi3465
      @eliaspanayi3465 10 месяцев назад

      ​@tposingukiki it's also really flexible so when you shake it it makes the laminated 'fwubwuwubwbwbwb" noise as it bends

    • @മദ്യപാനം
      @മദ്യപാനം 10 месяцев назад

      Probably some sort of spiked khopesh

  • @Totsy30
    @Totsy30 10 месяцев назад +64

    Shad's face at 25:04 suggests to me we might see a perfected abomination in the future. Katana hilt, longsword crossguard, and that same blade. I doubt Tyranth would be thrilled about it though lol
    Truly the merging of best attributes.

    • @josephjoestar953
      @josephjoestar953 10 месяцев назад +9

      Maybe even a pommel ( if they even can put a pommel on a katana hilt )

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@josephjoestar953 the longer handle acts as the pommel, as the extra length of handle adds the weight a pommel does.

    • @WJS774
      @WJS774 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@jamoecw The extra length of the handle in no way adds the same weight as a pommel. It's only made of wood, it is _far_ lighter than a pommel.

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@WJS774 depends on the handle, the tang, and the weight of the sword. the sword in the video weighed as much as a sword of comparable length with a pommel. maybe the original sword was much heavier despite being thinner, or maybe the weight of the pommel it had weighed less than you think.

    • @WJS774
      @WJS774 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@jamoecw Are you for real? You think that the overall weight is what the pommel is about? The total weight of the sword means _nothing._ The pommel is to control the point of balance. And it makes a big difference whether you want to admit it or not.

  • @racoondraws6045
    @racoondraws6045 10 месяцев назад +21

    I still believe that, this sword in particular it's not an abomination, it actually resembles a little bit to a Japanese ancient sword called tsurugi, this swords were actually double edged and iirc, were inspired by Chinese jian, so if you ask me...I'd say with a little tweaking on the hilt (like making it more centered) would make a good or at least decent sword design!

  • @popularopinion1
    @popularopinion1 10 месяцев назад +17

    Watching the balance of revulsion and admiration in the boys is heartwarming.
    Also, they should commission a purpose made version of the longtana, so it doesn't have the brass pin/epoxy issue

  • @illuminous7937
    @illuminous7937 10 месяцев назад +106

    Heyya Shad, would love to see a video where you debunk whether fighting with your Sheath/Scabbard as a secondary weapon is worthwhile in combat (To block incoming blows ect in your off hand)
    Excellent content as always

    • @dantegallardo1974
      @dantegallardo1974 10 месяцев назад +8

      That's so cool I want to see that

    • @zsDUGGZ
      @zsDUGGZ 10 месяцев назад +6

      That'd be fun to watch. hope Shad and the crew see this.

    • @jerryandersson4873
      @jerryandersson4873 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, do not need to use a real sheet.
      I am sure they can make something of wood.
      Dunno how acessable/cheap wood is in Australia tho.
      I do hope they go to building material stores and not hobby stores.
      Are there junkyard around for scrap metal stuff?
      Over here we have recycling centers here and there, wich can have some amazing stuff, and if you get friendly with the owner/workers and perhaps throw in some compensation, I would imagine load of useful fun stuff could turn up over time, both wood and metal.
      I miss being able to work with metals and Mills and stuff.

    • @MylesKillis
      @MylesKillis 9 месяцев назад

      Um so a dual wielding good?

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky 8 месяцев назад

      Unless it's a metal scabbard, I don't see it. Scabbards were usually wood, lined with fur and covered in leather and obviously hollow on the inside. The wood is very thin such that you might break it if you sit on it accidentally, so I don't see it doing a good job.

  • @Mikael_Ore
    @Mikael_Ore 10 месяцев назад +23

    Yup, very supportive of this project, hope you guys make it and have fun!

  • @asahearts1
    @asahearts1 10 месяцев назад +47

    One hand on a 2 hander gives that extra reach when you need it. Plus it frees up the other hand for grapple, pocket sand, whatever 😂
    Incidentally, the jian is typically used with mostly one hand 😂

    • @rohdri
      @rohdri 10 месяцев назад +1

      The typical jian also has both a shorter hilt and blade, and is also lighter by a bit. .7-.9 kilos instead of 1.2 kilos. Also, they typically had a pommel, and a different hand guard. Apples to banana/orange hybrid.

    • @DrahcirII
      @DrahcirII 16 дней назад +1

      I'm now adding pocket sand to my arsenal XD

  • @RanOutOfChannelNames
    @RanOutOfChannelNames 10 месяцев назад +89

    Oh look, Shad made a Wrongsword.

    • @ilovejettrooper5922
      @ilovejettrooper5922 9 месяцев назад +6

      That has no right to sound as perfect as it does.

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky 8 месяцев назад +14

      @@ilovejettrooper5922 Even better when you realize that it sounds like a Japanese person trying to pronounce "longsword" 😂

  • @IamHattman
    @IamHattman 10 месяцев назад +15

    If you're going to try and make a more specific fusion of the Katana and Longsword, I'd suggest checking out the Ask Seki Sensi video where he actually tries some things with a trainer longsword. Just for the feedback from the Katana side of things.
    Off the top of my head, I would suggest trying to machine a mix between the cross guard and a tsuba, likely with a single quillion along the 'true' edge, a rounded central section in the style of a tsuba, but with a notch to accomidate moving to thumb-grip. I think that manages to adjust the guard for the benefits both camps have prefered while also addressing some of potential problems.

  • @aced4fun
    @aced4fun 10 месяцев назад +13

    The Shadoversity intro is still awesome and one of the few intros persisting on modern RUclips
    I wouldn’t change a thing :D

  • @Joyful_Rob
    @Joyful_Rob 10 месяцев назад +13

    The dynamic of the three of you discussing your opinions is the best part of this channel. 😁

  • @mansfieldtime
    @mansfieldtime 10 месяцев назад +151

    The next abomination, orientate the cross guard to be perpendicular to the blade at 90*. It sounds like a horror project.

    • @alexmashkin863
      @alexmashkin863 10 месяцев назад +19

      You'll have to invent a completely new construction of the cross guard for that, or just cut quillons off and weld them back the other way

    • @allopez8563
      @allopez8563 10 месяцев назад

      @@alexmashkin863 This is not that uncommon, check sword collector forums for "Frankeswords" you might get many ideas.
      Back 8 to 10 years euro hilts were much easier to come by now it is harder.
      I guess dark wood armory and the Australian medieval fight club are still around, but independent forges are more expensive and cast steel crossguards for the Hanwei Tinker line are not made anymore.

    • @FlexxibleFree
      @FlexxibleFree 10 месяцев назад +1

      Oh yeah!

    • @Notmyname1593
      @Notmyname1593 10 месяцев назад +2

      Could be a helluva stabber.

    • @commode7x
      @commode7x 10 месяцев назад +1

      So, like what DemolitionRanch did?

  • @jackson01357
    @jackson01357 10 месяцев назад +11

    I love watching Nate be so peeved that he likes it. That's a rare thing, from what I have seen - to see him be so bothered that he likes something weird that he made, or at least helped make. I haven't watched that video yet.
    It brings me joy 😂

  • @drunkardhu6517
    @drunkardhu6517 10 месяцев назад +11

    3:08 Sir Shad, you got it right on the first try. Jian is what we call double edged blade in Chinese. And this particular design with 8 surfaces (or whatever the proper term) is an design from the Bronze Age. Hence the Jian is smaller because blade made of bronze cannot go too long or to large.

  • @dustingreene8602
    @dustingreene8602 10 месяцев назад +7

    I'd suggest centering the blade and adding a bigger tsuba. It would deal with the foward balancing and add more hand protection.

  • @BellhenderOfficial
    @BellhenderOfficial 10 месяцев назад +5

    Man I love this new content here. Every video done this year has been PLATINUM! Keep doing guys. You are the best

  • @TheMegaOnyx
    @TheMegaOnyx 10 месяцев назад +3

    Stretched out gladius is what i think of when i see the sword...

  • @williamr.s.5693
    @williamr.s.5693 10 месяцев назад +16

    I’ve noticed you often forget to change the tags from the previous video, maybe double check it next time ;)
    #anime #boomerang
    Anyways really cool testing on the longtana! Or you could call it the abomitana… or abomisword… or abomina…

  • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
    @FortuneFavoursTheBold 10 месяцев назад +10

    Shad is getting better at this, which is a testament of how much one can improve by actually using swords and reflecting on the usage afterwards.
    I have cut with katana with back-edge techniques like zwerchau and schielhau by temporarily reversing the blade and holding down on the grip while placing the thumb on the grip instead of thumbing the flat of the blade. It works. Slightly awkward but Shad is correct here that on a well balanced nimble sword like many longswords, temporarily having 1 inch point of balance further away may help the cut gain more momentum thus letting the mass of the sword doing more work for you. When you are done with the cut, you immediately hold back onto the the part just below the guard to gain more control. It works with a tip heavy sword like katana, it definitely works with a nimbler blade like the longsword blade (more profile taper and more distal taper).

  • @manoz6194
    @manoz6194 10 месяцев назад +51

    I love Nate's character development in this lol

  • @Kraleck
    @Kraleck 10 месяцев назад +13

    It seems to me that the wielder's affinity for strength, speed, defense, or balance pairs better with the handle than the blade. The tsuka of a katana is advantageous in deft hands to allow more fluidity of motion than a hilt with a crossguard, allowing them to strike rapidly (much like Tyranth shows). A strong wielder would prefer the opposite, using a blade's crossguard with a strong grip to brace against an attack then following up with leverage to affect an opponent's balance. Very good show of skills, gentlemen!

    • @Uncephalized
      @Uncephalized 10 месяцев назад +1

      Nah, the type of guard has little if anything to do with how fast or fluidly you can move the sword. That has more to do with weight, balance, strength and skill of the user.

  • @Maninawig
    @Maninawig 10 месяцев назад +3

    Hey Shad and crew, now that Tyranth is making swords, could you guys make/discuss Antonio Banderas' sword in 13th Warrior? Grinding down longsword into a scimitar sounds like a horrible idea, but I would love to hear all the issues one might have with this

  • @ethanwalsh5441
    @ethanwalsh5441 10 месяцев назад +5

    Loved this video and I’m honestly with shad on this. I do wonder if this particular unique sword’s asymmetrical blade may offer different reverse edge cut feelings depending on which side you use in the reverse. I also fully agree with building a sword with a katana styled handle built into a longsword blade profile like this.

  • @mga149
    @mga149 10 месяцев назад +3

    Finding this sword very fascinating. I'd come up the same concept (a light, fast longsword blade with tachi tsuba) as the weapon for a DnD Monk Kensai character a few months ago. I thought it was just a completely rule of cool fantasy idea, but it seems to performs way better than I thought it would.
    I love how much Nate HATES how much he likes it.

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 10 месяцев назад +2

    Right now i have that image in my head of Shad, Tyranth and the rest of the crew going to a toy store and pretty much cleaning out their stack of pool noodles for sword testing.
    But the sword has something weirdly fascinating about it. I would like to see it with other kinds of tsuba designs, like more rectengular ones. Those exist, after all.
    This mixing of sword hilts and blades seems to be worthwhile from both a looks and an efficient use aspect.

  • @allopez8563
    @allopez8563 10 месяцев назад +4

    The Hanwei Tinker swords came out around the early 2010s sometimes they snapped at the "shoulders" a possibility they were actually afraid.
    Although newer blades tend to break less.

  • @jjthejetplane8965
    @jjthejetplane8965 10 месяцев назад +1

    I gotta say, the group dynamic is great with you guys. You all seem like fantastic people.

  • @Smooth_Lime_Nine
    @Smooth_Lime_Nine 10 месяцев назад +5

    I love to think that at some point in the future Nate will have an 80’s style flash back and a faded shad will echo softly in his ears “feel the blade”
    😂

  • @OmegaB3N
    @OmegaB3N 10 месяцев назад +1

    Add the cross guard,
    MAKE THE KONGSWORD!!!!

  • @andreas_rr
    @andreas_rr 10 месяцев назад +40

    i think Lon(g)ken would be pretty fitting as a name. Long is obvious, "ken" basically means "sword" in japanese and is the go to designation when talking about double edged swords in Japan. Also the pronounciation is pretty smooth/neat imo. Idk if i'd write it with or without "g", but if it's with, i'd still keep it silent.

    • @Hei_Darkfire
      @Hei_Darkfire 10 месяцев назад +2

      I like the Ken part for sword. But we need a new beginning. Something to mean long, but hopefully something that pairs good with the Ken part of the name.

    • @mrcheese5383
      @mrcheese5383 10 месяцев назад +3

      Klong

    • @sakesaurus
      @sakesaurus 10 месяцев назад +1

      If you write it with a g the aussies read it as lonjen. Which sucks, i like to avoid such stuf.
      Although the chinese read this (corresponding) hanzi through j, but that might be reading too much into things..

    • @andreas_rr
      @andreas_rr 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@GerdLPluu not bad actually 😂😂😂

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 10 месяцев назад +3

      'Ken' literally means double edged sword in japanese, whereas '-tō' or katana means single edged (tō, katana, '-nata' or 'waki-' are all readings of 刀 character) possibly knife like in chinese.
      So ken is sword but katana are 'knives' in a sense.
      I like rongu sword myself.

  • @reeceemms1643
    @reeceemms1643 10 месяцев назад +5

    Day something of asking for a video on the misconceptions of Medieval weddings. Such as the engagement (even though I know it was done by the parents), What they did to celebrate, and any interest information.
    I then what to know how these can be incorporated into fantasy stories and TTRPGs. Especially since I recently read my fantasy book where I do touch on marriage a bit.
    These being a Royal wedding set up, the mention of a marriage, and an actual interrupted wedding scene.
    Another thing I want to know is what actually happened to a princess of a kingdom if thar kingdom was taken. Because in my story the main character is forced into marrying the main bad guy. I don’t actually know how accurate that actually is to history though

  • @ankokuraven
    @ankokuraven 10 месяцев назад +30

    You have inspired me to try to make my own abomination.
    Funny enough, i want to use the same blade.

    • @rachdarastrix5251
      @rachdarastrix5251 10 месяцев назад +2

      I've been "inspired" to years ago. Its just that when it comes to any form of trade my competitors have somehow managed to get it so that I have no chance of getting a foothold and beginning a profession 20 years before I was even born. So I have to but their products, rough it up a little then finish it with a file, and that way I can lie and say I forged it myself.

    • @allopez8563
      @allopez8563 10 месяцев назад

      This is not that uncommon, check sword collector forums for "Frankeswords" you might get many ideas.
      Back 8 to 10 years euro hilts were much easier to come by now it is harder.
      I guess dark wood armory and the Australian medieval fight club are still around, but independent forges are more expensive and cast steel crossguards for the Hanwei Tinker line are not made anymore.

  • @generalcellron2962
    @generalcellron2962 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love these videos just a thought for a name for it, Knight's Anatak (Katana backwards could also be used for the other sword maybe 🤔) and maybe tyranth should make a fusion of a Suba and a cross guard maybe 🤔🧐😁

  • @kenwalker5384
    @kenwalker5384 10 месяцев назад +5

    I think the real takeaway from these experiments is that there's a reason for there being so many styles, and sizes of swords is to cater to personal preference!

  • @michaelcamu625
    @michaelcamu625 10 месяцев назад +1

    Is there any chance of Shad playing Chivalry 2 on Knights Watch? I can just imagine him saying the crenellations aren’t tall enough as his he’s getting decapitated by a Dane axe.

  • @NickCombs
    @NickCombs 10 месяцев назад +12

    The longtana looks to be overall better when compared to the longsword. It's got a faster tip and better reach with the longer handle. Even longer when wielded one-handed (looking at you, Shad).
    The addition of a crossguard (but not a pommel, sorry Skal) would be nice, but given the other benefits of speed and reach I don't think your hand is at as much risk overall. So that detriment seems like more of a wash.

  • @sunilpermaul7876
    @sunilpermaul7876 10 месяцев назад +2

    I think this raises an overall question of, "What happens if you could add the optimal handle (for the user) to a blade?"

  • @JoyBoyAlter
    @JoyBoyAlter 10 месяцев назад +1

    Every time I think I'm prepared for Shad's sudden increases in volume, but every time I get my ears blown out lmao. My day is never complete without it

  • @SukacitaYeremia
    @SukacitaYeremia 10 месяцев назад +2

    Seems to me like this has been the toughest sword testing video to digest. I wonder if there can be any way to advance the discussion further and help me understand it better...

  • @mariovwcardoso5970
    @mariovwcardoso5970 3 месяца назад +1

    I'd think it could have a different, maybe even unique, type of cross-guard to maximize it's unique features (for example, the leverage for back cuts.

  • @dragortius9335
    @dragortius9335 10 месяцев назад +2

    Really good video and it does make me wonder if the long tana and/or katanar (if that's the name) couldn't be upgraded FURTHER, hear me out
    Double bladed long sword blade: ookatana handle + POMMEL, and a Tsuba/cross guard HYBRID (Don't know if something like that already exists).
    Katana wraps + pins and try to incorporate the endurance of the longsword handle into the handle.
    Edit: ok, sorry, you guys talked about it at the end, more or less, so, YEAH, if you do this, oh boy, happy fan be happy and more fan.

  • @paulrichardspencer
    @paulrichardspencer 10 месяцев назад +1

    I've had a random thought on the tatami mat thing....
    Had you considered using a hemp mat of similar construction, it would provide a very similar cutting resistance whilst being considerably cheaper and putting it in an affordable price bracket.
    Hope that helps in some small way. 😊

  • @itschoiboi
    @itschoiboi 10 месяцев назад +3

    For posterity, We need a build video with all the things you hate in a sword. Whether it be the balance is off, the handle being uncomfortable, or the shape of the blade itself, etc...

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn 10 месяцев назад +1

      Ah yes. The "Shadiversity Hateful Blade"

    • @itschoiboi
      @itschoiboi 10 месяцев назад

      Excellent name 😂@@5peciesunkn0wn

  • @lordwarryl5712
    @lordwarryl5712 10 месяцев назад

    I don't even want to watch this video... But for you guys, I will support you in everything you guys do.... Even its unforgivable...

  • @tmvega8167
    @tmvega8167 10 месяцев назад +40

    Kinda looks like a chinese sword

    • @lexmarovsky6667
      @lexmarovsky6667 10 месяцев назад +3

      Why did these Asians dislike crossguards so much...

    • @lopezroilans.8384
      @lopezroilans.8384 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@lexmarovsky6667probably material issues, and/or design issues at the time

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@lexmarovsky6667Not sure about Chinese swords, but I think the reason why Japanese swords had the small tsuba was so it’d get caught less on stuff during a speed draw (iaijutsu). I know when Seki Sensei tried out the longsword, it got caught on stuff a few times despite him praising the extra hand protection. As far as I know, there’s no equivalent to iaijutsu for European swords.
      Much the same way a lot of handguns modified for quick draw will have all their edges smoothed out for the sake of a faster and smoother draw. Sometimes they’d go so far as to remove the front sight entirely, making it far less accurate at long range but a much smoother draw since nothing would snag.

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@gameragodzillaI feel like it probably wasn't a purposeful omission like you imply.
      I more imagine that once the "I don't wanna cut my own hand while stabbing" bit was figured out, they were satisfied and didn't think twice about it.
      Much the same way as the west never thinking "I should optimize a sword for quick drawing"
      Don't feel the need to change, and you probably won't.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla 10 месяцев назад

      @@1stCallipostle Well there are still reasons why they went with some particular design, and even the Japanese did modify the nodachi and tachi into the eventual katanas in later periods when there were more sword carrying on foot and swordsmanship became more self defense oriented than battle.

  • @adamwest8256
    @adamwest8256 10 месяцев назад

    Wish you could have been a guest on Administrative Results! They were testing english long bowes against armor.

  • @lukerogers9348
    @lukerogers9348 10 месяцев назад +3

    I love how defending Nate is when arguing his dislikes for the sword, like he secretly likes it lol

  • @Sp33LzZz
    @Sp33LzZz 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you Tyranth, I will now play a D&D game as a barbarian who purposefully wields two handed swords in one hand and refuses to do otherwise. Brilliant idea!

  • @Fallenangel_85
    @Fallenangel_85 10 месяцев назад +3

    It's actually not that unusual to have such a sword design, it's been done historically.
    The korean Sain-Geom is smaller, but it combines the double edge with a tsuba like guard.

  • @JanterCyrano
    @JanterCyrano 10 месяцев назад +2

    13:34 the instant regret of success....

  • @radimnechut519
    @radimnechut519 10 месяцев назад +2

    Don't know. I really like the look and, from what you guys have said, the feel of both. The falchion kimitana looks like a more _reliable_ sword, in that it has the better cross-guard and a good balance. The langana looks fun and a bit like a _glass cannon_ without the better guard, but being superior in seemingly any other way.

  • @mrt5069
    @mrt5069 10 месяцев назад +2

    I feel like i can listen to Shads arguing about swords for hours.

  • @morrigankasa570
    @morrigankasa570 10 месяцев назад +4

    Imagine a Khopesh Blade with a Crossguard Hilt?
    Imagine a Dane Axe with a Katana Hilt?
    Imagine a Halberd Head on a Hand and a Half Hilt?
    Finally, imagine a "Crow's Beak" with a One-Handed Haft?
    (Edit more ideas): A Basket Hilt on a Mace, A Spatha Hilt on a Claymore, A Mace Haft on a Spatha Blade, A Double-Edged Scimitar on a Rapier Hilt, A Scimitar Hilt on a Rapier Blade.

    • @GranWarlorckEnmaryu
      @GranWarlorckEnmaryu 10 месяцев назад +1

      @Morrigankasa570 or a Gladiushilt/guard with a khopesh blade

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle 10 месяцев назад +1

      I feel like that last one exists to some degree.
      A comically long Katana handle with a Dane axe head though... That would be a sight

    • @morrigankasa570
      @morrigankasa570 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@GranWarlorckEnmaryu That would be neat.

    • @morrigankasa570
      @morrigankasa570 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@1stCallipostle Yep, and what makes it even more interesting is it expands things beyond just swords made into "Abominations".
      Another idea I thought of after my first comment. Was a Spear Haft with a Kopis on the end. (Kopis is the Greek Version of a Khopesh).

  • @nathancox7412
    @nathancox7412 10 месяцев назад +2

    Second time now. This reminds me and looks the way a lightsaber is being portrayed being used. Sort that handle out a little better and its a weapon that acts a lot like the way light sabers are portrayed. This is a Proto Saber.

    • @nathancox7412
      @nathancox7412 10 месяцев назад +1

      I'd love to see you guys get someone on your channel that trains with those SW combat sabers and get one of them to give it ago. the scifi nerd in me need to see this revisited.

  • @MattWinkler1
    @MattWinkler1 10 месяцев назад +2

    Would love to see you guys wearing medieval helmets / gauntlets as protection against sword damage in the tests. It's what they're made for!

  • @decay79
    @decay79 10 месяцев назад +1

    Am loving the look of the Longtana.. That it performs as well as it does is somewhat of a surprise, but a pleasant one..

  • @billysmith5409
    @billysmith5409 10 месяцев назад +3

    The “Longtana” looks like something I would build on Calimascil. I want to hate but I can’t.

  • @scottcarroll3017
    @scottcarroll3017 10 месяцев назад +2

    Name suggestion. Swordy Mcswordface.

  • @Megabidoof83
    @Megabidoof83 10 месяцев назад +3

    If you're already making abominations, why not make a tsuba, that is a bit bigger then normal tsuba's, with openings so you can finger or thumb the blade but still retain the classic look of the katana hilt? (on a long sword or katana)

  • @joycallender6086
    @joycallender6086 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you, gentlemen!

  • @EksaStelmere
    @EksaStelmere 10 месяцев назад +3

    Once more, I'm gonna suggest Longutō (ロング刀) and Longuken (ロング剣) for the name. As with before, I'd personally go with the latter, but since it's TECHNICALLY using a Katana handle, the former might work even if it's double-edged.

    • @lildragon6415
      @lildragon6415 10 месяцев назад

      Ken makes more sense because it is double edged.

    • @EksaStelmere
      @EksaStelmere 10 месяцев назад

      @@lildragon6415 Pretty much, yeah, but it's something of a meme, so doesn't matter too much.

  • @TwitchInPenguinSuit
    @TwitchInPenguinSuit 6 месяцев назад

    Hey Shad, just wanted you to know that RUclips started recommending a lot of your older videos to me again!

  • @FireCrack83
    @FireCrack83 10 месяцев назад +3

    I Just wanted to Go to sleep. Now i have to watch a Video about one of shads weird sword dreams😅

  • @riftalope
    @riftalope 10 месяцев назад

    Damnit! I had JUST sat down and started the video, and Nate up 'n reads my mind!
    Took me a bit to stop the Twilight Zone music and giggling.
    Had to rewind.

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 10 месяцев назад +3

    Might I offer a term to describe bladed weapons that are not historical, "stabulator"

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord 10 месяцев назад

      how does one stabulate?

    • @Sam-lf3hn
      @Sam-lf3hn 10 месяцев назад

      What about a "hackulator" or a "sliceulator"

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 10 месяцев назад

      How about McStabby?

  • @ehta2413
    @ehta2413 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ship it to Finland, I have a perfect burial place for that abomination on top of ancient fell in middle of nowhere. All that needs to be done is to drill a hole in a sacred square rock, put the sword in and fill the edges of the hole with pebble cement to prevent people from pulling it off the rock. Other option would a small remote waterfall in Northern Norway that has been used as a sacrificial site by local indigenous people in middle ages, the rock altar in there is still bit rusted from all the blood :D

  • @LMLR187
    @LMLR187 9 месяцев назад

    You should have Tyranth revisit this sword by addressing the "flaws" and correcting them whilst trying to maintain the overall design. One example may be to change the shape of the tsuba to a larger, oval shap with ample sized gaps that allow your thumb to go through.

  • @Forscythe80
    @Forscythe80 10 месяцев назад

    Maybe with future projects, you weigh all weapons before they're pulled apart and exhanged parts? For baseline. Given, the longswords had two different blades.

  • @emmettsfabricationshandicr2536
    @emmettsfabricationshandicr2536 10 месяцев назад

    What if you made an elongated tsuba? a little more rectangular. Granted, that would be inching it towards a crossguard, but since the flat would be along a different plane, I think it would add an interesting aesthetic.
    Plus, there are tsubas with gaps and swoops in them, you could leave a hole for your thumb to go through

  • @auron7026
    @auron7026 10 месяцев назад

    I loved the video but I think one thing was missing from the tests, due to the "longtana" having a longer grip you can in theory use it as a sort of shorter spear? I know the blade is flexible but that might make it better at wiggling into gaps of armor. We really missed out on seeing the piercing potential of the tip but those are just my thoughts on it

  • @T.BG822
    @T.BG822 10 месяцев назад +1

    It's always a good call to disbelieve Shad when he claims something is against the natural order. Good job, assistants.
    The extra leverage and general commentary has me thinking these guys should commission a blade with Witcher proportions, see what they think of a short, wide blade and a long handle.

  • @allopez8563
    @allopez8563 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Hanwei Tinker swords came out around the early 2010s sometimes they snapped at the "shoulders" a possibility they were actually afraid.
    Although newer blades tend to break less.
    Now this handle was not dedicated to this sword they just stuck the tang in a Katana handle, this is why it is off center.

  • @davidhim3527
    @davidhim3527 10 месяцев назад

    I just love Nate's reaction every time was a disappointed "God damnit, it did great..."

  • @Zain0001
    @Zain0001 10 месяцев назад +1

    To keep the theme of swapping going, would you offer both these swords to Let's Ask Seki Sensei to get a different sword masters perspective?

  • @some_Russian_dude
    @some_Russian_dude 10 месяцев назад

    Have you guys done a review of the shashka yet? Would be nice to see your thoughts on it.

  • @lampyrisnoctiluca9904
    @lampyrisnoctiluca9904 10 месяцев назад

    😊 I love watching my fellow geeks and nerds enjoying themselves. It does not matter what kind you are. Only thing that matters is people being happy over something weird, unusual or nerdy.

  • @H47Ronin
    @H47Ronin 10 месяцев назад +2

    I still say I am curious to see you replace the tsuba with a s-shaped hand guard that lets you slide your thumb under to do the reverse cuts.
    I believe that it would fall under "complex" hilts. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
    Tsubatana? Tsubatachi?

    • @DH-xw6jp
      @DH-xw6jp 10 месяцев назад

      S shaped like a katzbalger sword?

    • @H47Ronin
      @H47Ronin 10 месяцев назад

      ​​@@DH-xw6jpthat's about what I was thinking.
      I would however place a second one up on the blade slightly to further protect the thumb. If you connected them together by spiralling it around the blade once, it would look like a S. It should also hypothetically shunt the incoming blade off on a safer angle, providing significantly more protection than the tsuba.

  • @Hanlix14313
    @Hanlix14313 10 месяцев назад

    Love the content and would love to see more

  • @TheCaniblcat
    @TheCaniblcat 10 месяцев назад

    ~7:53 Dammit Shad, this was the perfect opportunity to say "You must unlearn what you have learned" 🐸

  • @Ghostly_FilmProduction
    @Ghostly_FilmProduction 10 месяцев назад +1

    Next is the Axe handle with sword blade, and vice-versa

  • @alexderkombinator3385
    @alexderkombinator3385 10 месяцев назад +1

    Cool combination! Katana and longsword!👍

  • @takisk.7698
    @takisk.7698 10 месяцев назад

    Please put a cross guard to that thing!.. and a find a longsword blade with a thicker tang so you can drill it and put wooden pins for the impact absorption.. then I think it might actually be great.

  • @DanielMatthews-ql3wf
    @DanielMatthews-ql3wf 10 месяцев назад +1

    In combat you always try to catch your opponent's blade on the edge more than the flat so the cross guard works.

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 10 месяцев назад

    But if we have no pommel to unscrew, how can we end them rightly?

  • @kleinerprinz99
    @kleinerprinz99 10 месяцев назад

    About the protection: Most replicas are missing the Nail and other developments to protect fingers and thumbs for different uses in different iterations.

  • @dirkmcgurk1
    @dirkmcgurk1 10 месяцев назад +1

    I want to see this with a cross guard and a better centered hilt.

  • @IamHattman
    @IamHattman 10 месяцев назад

    From what i have about half way through the video.. this thing is a swashbuckling sword. As in it would pair well with a buckler. To get that hand protection.

  • @vikingatyr4822
    @vikingatyr4822 10 месяцев назад +1

    Given the modifications required for the katana hilt, I'd be interested to see that blade mounted to a staff to make a sword staff; something similar in length to the Staff of Parthalan from Dragon Age II.

  • @TheoryMaK15-255
    @TheoryMaK15-255 10 месяцев назад

    Godspeed SHAD!!! ⚔🗡🤺🛡🔰🦾

  • @RBLXSkilledSniper1
    @RBLXSkilledSniper1 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wait what about thrusting...? I've only seen slices thus far.

  • @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
    @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 10 месяцев назад

    There are certain longswords that so have side rings or more complex hilts which do address the exposed thumb issue.

  • @theoldefirme4500
    @theoldefirme4500 10 месяцев назад +1

    22:41 They didn't know that katana blades are designed to be stiff i.e. less felt vibration and longsword blades are designed to be flexible i.e. more felt vibration...

  • @williampickett5875
    @williampickett5875 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks!