My great grandfather has a funny memory of this little pistol. He was a guard of some train station in the middle of nowhere somewhere along the USSRs border in the 30s, one day a scruffy looking kid walks up to the station and demands to be let on a train adding on "or else" (or rather the equivalent Russian phrase) to make it seem like he meant business. My grandfather responds "or what?" and to my grandfather's surprise the kid pulls out one of these, only to be met by laughter since not only is this thing tiny and honestly kind of cute but it was also unloaded. The kid was then hit a few times by a good old Soviet baton before being hauled off by some soldiers.
Kenny Ah, I’m not too sure. I’m pretty sure it was the teenage son of a mid ranking local official who had stolen his fathers handgun and decided to run away. Even so I’m betting the father stepped in and prevented him from going to a work camp.
its because he really does appreciate these beautiful pieces of history, i imagine him cuddling into some of his own collection at night, im so glad that we get to be involved in his passion for firearms, its just a pleasure watching him interact with these pieces!
Yes. Matryoshka style. safety locks barrel, barrel locks slide, slide locks the slide lock, and striker, which locks it's spring. Sam Colt nervously smokes around the corner.
@@oskaralpary1324 > safety locks barrel, barrel locks slide, slide locks the slide lock, and striker, which locks it's spring in the house that Jack built. Obvious influence of English gun school.
@@user-uj4zu8no9z Фамилия Коровин принадлежит к древнейшему типу русских фамилий, образованных от мирского имени. Весьма популярно в старину было и древнее мирское имя-прозвище Корова. Это именование было распространено на Руси среди представителей разных сословий. К примеру, в древних грамотах упоминаются новгородский землевладелец Яков Корова Митин сын Шестаков (1495), крестьянин Семеновского погоста Осташко Корова (1495), московский отчинник Иван Корова Микулин сын Соболев (1511), холоп в Городенце Семенко Корова (1500), устюжский коморник Корова (1665), астраханский записный сборщик Ганко Корова (1679) и многие другие.
Simple, reliable, effective - not surprising it was made in large numbers, especially in a period when people in the USSR basically couldn't get foreign arms.
Beautifully engineered, love it when a part does more than one thing, like that multi function safety lever that in turn is secured by the main spring. Very well thought out.
@@dashingdave2665 not quite, "cow" will be "корова" (koróva). Suffix -ин (-in) can mark belonging to something, for example, кошкин дом (kóshkin dom) - cat's house, or relation to something: last name Кошкин (Kóshkin) suggests that ancestors had something to do with cats
.32's are having something of a comeback in revolvers. I'm a little surprised that Ruger or someone hasn't come out with a LCP style .25 acp. It's a caliber that just needs a little kick in the ballistic pants to make it a good carry round for very small, lightweight pistols. It feeds better than .22 and is centerfire reliable.
It’s a shame 25 acp mag tech averages out at 31 bucks for a box of 50 now. Even back in 2020 I remember paying 20$ for the same brand at the same store.
@@MultiRokusho I was shooting my vest pocket Colt and showed my cousin my ammo. I said, "you can tell I've had this a while." Because it was a box of fifty and the price written on it was $10.
@X my friend, everyone here has dogs, if you live in a village. And those can usually jump over the fence, since owners don´t really give a sh*t. Happened to me once with a german shepard, luckilly the owner noticed me shouting at the dog and held him back. They aren´t aggressive, but highly territorial.
Maybe for an April Fool’s episode featuring more Elbonian small arms? I’d agree that it’d be jarring in a regular episode, but for a joke episode it’d be pretty entertaining.
NKVD and NKGB officers were permitted to carry a service-grade sidearm, visible (that comes with uniform) - more often the weapon of their choise was Nagant revolver (for a simple reason that you could carry it all day long loaded without weakening mag spring) or Tokarev... They were even allowed to carry foreign-made handguns, like Mauser, Browning, Luger or Walther - again, full-sized... Very few of them were occasionally in the need of a pocket pistol... The key to this riddle is what you said in the beginning - TK was the first ever Soviet-made handgun... It came when Soviets have only started gathering what's left from Tsar's weapon industry and bringing it to the new age... They needed sort of an entry exam - so, just like S&W in their own time, they've started with the small caliber... Such small guns like TK are made for concealed carry - for people who don't need to announce they're armed... In Soviet Union, though, civilians were not permitted to carry handguns - even if they were drafted to any sort of military service... Most of TKs ended up in hands of flight sergeants and civilian pilots delivering cargo to the frontline... Officially, they were not allowed to carry a gun - but, if you're flying near a frontline, you'd better to have a gun... Officials are not bothered for as long as your gun stays in your pocket... Call it a tradition - for many years after the war, TK was familiar to airline crew captains, up until Makarov PM have arrived... And, yes, lots of compact-sized less-powered handguns were unofficially carried by female personnel during the war...
A little more historical detail: in 1905 Russia went through an almost-revolution, the Revolution of 1905. Czar Nicholas II managed to end this period of national unrest with reform and a constitution, which he hated. He backpedaled on his reforms and then got into WW1, and then whoops, the Revolution of 1917 happened and his government was totally toppled. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Anyway, the Okhrana (aka the Czarist secret police) always focused super heavily on Universities, which makes sense, as this is where a lot of dissent against the Czarist regime was most vocal. As far as I can tell, the Kharkov Technical Institute is still around as Kharkiv Polytechnic Institute, a big Ukrainian university. If Korovin was kicked out in 1905, there's a good chance that his Revolutionary Political Activity could have been agitating in favor of a liberal capitalist democracy with civil rights, or even as moderate as agitating in favor of a constitutional monarchy. The Okhrana didn't really obey due process that diligently. It's also possible that he was a Marxist or Anarcho-Socialist. There were Anarcho-Socialist terrorists around in 1905, but the Okhrana probably would have executed him if he was caught in that gig. If you have free time, I really strongly recommend Mike Duncan's podcast Revolutions.
I wouldn't be surprised if his revolutionary pedigree helped tremendously getting government approval under the Soviets so early. A lot of the discontent boiled over thanks to Russia losing the Russo-Japanese War (and losing most of their navy and some territory in China as a result.). Well, that and the Army shooting a bunch of protestors. That tends to radicalize people!
Not "Okhrana" but "Okhranka" which is a slang derivative from "Okhrannoye Otdeleniye". That translates as "Guarding Department" and full name would be "Department of guarding public security and order" (I'm not writing full russian transliteration for that). Here's an interesting fact: "okhranka" had no rights of conducting investigations and was tasked with agent management and surveillance. Invasive actions were conducted by Jeandarmery corps.
good old times when people were not so bulletproof and 25ACP was good enough for self defence.... nowadays a 9mm is a bare minimum, anything else will probably just bounce off.... :D
The existence of the other ACPs suggests there was great disagreement at the time over what constitutes "good enough", and we have a century more data now.
The open top slide, the striker, some aspects of the barrel, all remind me of the 1914 and 1932 Mauser pistols. Even back then, Russian research was at least partly copying other countries.
The Italian made Armi Tanfoglio Giuseppe GT-27, from the trigger forward, is a simplified version with the barrel pinned in place. Recoil spring, guide rod, safety, trigger are all virtually identical.
i believe the magazine included is a First series Star model D magazine (Original Spanish version of the colt pony/iver johnson Model D)@@johnkelinske1449
This looks like a vastly-simplified Mauser 1914 pistol. The firing pin looks almost identical. Sear arrangement and disassembly are much more efficient.
@@jic1 what kind of velocity, was it a heavier bullet, How common are guns chamber in 6.3 tula. Lots more info would be interesting. +p is a pretty vague description.
@@jic1 it's 20-25% more muzzle energy with a longer heavier bullet. Giving it more penetration than standard 25acp ammo. Calling that +p isn't "everything" about such an obscure round.
It was called 6.35 mm cartridge 57-N-112 - 6.35×15.24 mm SR, made by Factory №3 in Ulayanovsk (modern-day UPZ, a subsidiary of TulAmmo). Its Berdan primer wasn't always perfectly centered due to QC issues, 3.25 g lead brass-jacketed bullet developed around 220-230 m/s (typically 228 m/s) velocity from the muzzle. It was unmarked, but could easily be recognized by its shorter case and overall poor quality. There was an attempt to make a steel-cored variant of its bullet in the mid-30's, but it went nowhere. It's no longer made (guess why), even by the '70's it was unobtainble in any significant quantity, UPZ nowadays doesn't offer anything smaller than .380 Auto.
@@F1ghteR41 thank you very much. Berdan primers is a shock to me! Was that ammo specifically for this gun? I haven't seen any info on guns chamber for it except this 1.
The .30 caliber Tokarev, and Mauser are the same dimensions, and will chamber in the same guns, but Tokarev is loaded to higher pressure. So, do not load, and fire Tokarev ammo in a Broomhandle Mauser (I guess unless you handload it to Mauser spec, which might be tricky with the lacquered steel cases of Crazy Ivan's Surplus) It's not good for the gun, which may be a valuable collectable. (Because of Star Wars, the Broomhandle Mauser is a popular collectible.)
I’ve seen a few C96’s destroyed by hundreds of rounds of Tokarev ammo. Guy considered the $6-800 shooter grade C96’s he was destroying “expendable” because he bought them for a couple hundred bucks in the 90’s and the ammo was $0.05 a round. Two nice Mausers and an Astra with locking lugs sheared off turned into paper weights.
I feel like HnG has a lot of cool weapons in it before they were featured on forgotten weapons/known mainstream (i think the Johnson lmg and avs were in the game before Ian made a vid bout them)
"Stalin's joke" was apparently the nickname of this gun. The reason is, since the gun was available only to high ranking officials (and the police), owners, who were all Party members at the time of Stalin's purges used to say they were allowed to own this gun only to shoot themselves and avoid gulag, should they be suddenly considered traitors and arrested.
6:39 Sorry, but I think it's nothing but a myth brought up in 1999 Monetchikov's biography of Korovin. Original documents (including 1934 drawings set from Ul'yanovsk №3 Factory) state that 6.35 mm cartridge 57-N-112 had shorter-than-spec case (15.24 mm), and its 3.25 g bullet developed around 220-230 m/s (typically 228 m/s) velocity.
My favorite April Fools gun video was the Garand Thumb MA37 review. Stayed in character and in-universe for the whole thing, and the effort and attention to detail that went into the props was truly impressive.
@@PaulVerhoeven2 (cue penis joke) But seriously, I recently got my wife a Ruger .32 LCP that came with a bra holster. She wasnt to big into guns before but now shes constantly trying to find a companion pistol to go with the Ruger.
@STANLEY JACOB I'm kinda ashamed to admit this but, I got her the Ruger right before the virus hit and we still haven't shot it yet so i can neither confirm nor deny.
@STANLEY JACOB I paid $200 for the surplus Beretta (came from a correctional facility), $25 for a best of ten hand selection from the lot (a crap shoot that did not work out for a number of people according to comments but I got pretty lucky), $27 for the extended warranty (because surplus and really sketchy parts availability), $35 for a spare magazine (like new), $68 for LOK G-10 grips (the originals are in excellent condition but I can't stress enough how much better these make it for consistent shooting for me). Altogether I could have just paid retail for a new, probably better, pistol. I wouldn't trade it for anything, in fact I just ordered a new Falco holster for it for $46 (I really recommend Falco, you have to wait for them but they've proven to be worth it for me). Could it be the brand of ammo you've tried? _I always look there first._ It's not necessarily a quality thing - some brands of ammo just don't always like some particular pistols and this problem is more widespread than the internet might suggest. Magazine isn't dirty or sticky? The 32 is semi-rimmed so you want to mind how it stacks in the magazine to avoid rim locking. The hk is a good pistol, I hope you can get it sorted out. It's a fun caliber to shoot.
Matryoshka style. Safety locks barrel, barrel locks slide, slide locks the slide lock, and striker, which locks it's spring. Sam Colt nervously smokes around the corner.
I am Russian. No one, I say again, for the people at the back, no one is as objective about Russian firearms as Ian is, in the West. Ian needs to get some sort of Russian medal. I would give him a medal for:"The love of Motherland!". No jokes. Russian culture owes Ian. Long live Gun Jesus!!!
#513537 was brought home by my dad at the end of WW II. I will never know the truth about how he obtained it. Toward the end of his cognitive life, he told my son that "somebody died for me to have it.' What ever took place, happened in Belgium.
Neat little pistol. These sorts are all pretty close in build. I used to have a Sterling in .22LR. IT was a cute little .22LR in Stainless steel with black plastic grips. It had the heal mag release that was made of some cheap crapmetal, I dropped it one day and the release broke at the pin that held it in place I took it to a local machinist and he knocked me out one that was much better then the original in about five minutes, charged me a fin and I was verry happy with my little pocket pistol. The gun love CCI Stingers and would run through all of them that I Could feed her. She also liked CCI Mini Mags but standard velocity rounds were iffy. Eventually the sear wore down on it and it started doubling and tripling. I was at the range one day with a local preacher who ministered to the local Indian Reservation. He loved the doubling, and wanted the pistol very badly, I finally broke down and sold it to him. Hope he had good luck with it.
Interesting little pistol...made use of the same keeper system for the grip panels as the TT30 and TT33. I'm curious if the safety was a part of the original design or if it was added for importation. It looks a lot like the ones used on some of the TT33 pistols we see imported today. Also, any idea how many were imported or when?
Poor .25ACP, it gets a bad rap today. Even .32 ACP is far too looked down upon by a lot of people. I’ve got a Seecamp LWS in .32, I absolutely love it, slick little gun. They even make a .380 version in EXACTLY the same dimensions as the .32 version. I’m no expert but that seems remarkable. Ian, I’d be more than willing to lend mine over if you feel like doing a video on it.
Hi, Ian. I enjoyed learning about that little pistol. Give it a little styling polish while keeping the basic design, and you have a viable product today. Would it be a nice little 7-11 under the counter defense pistol? Or, for a biker or hiker, small is beautiful. Anyway, I appreciate the design very much. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
for a 1920's pocket pistol design it's actually a pretty good design. Moderately simple, decent grip & rather shootable. Probably the balance of production is in a cave/bunker in Siberia, just like everything else Mother Russia produces for their military.
This thing looks pretty cool for a 25auto the barrel seems to be a little bit longer than most guns chambered for 25 I would love to see it being fired...
Looks like Korovin copied quite some from the Beholla pistol and just improved the disassembly. But by that the trigger dropped a little, the bore axis got a little higher, the safety only acts on the trigger, not on the sear and he introduced additional parts for a hold-open. And why did he design the trigger with this weird operating angle like he did?
The quickest and neatest way I've found for removing this type of heel-catch mag (same as Makarov) is to hook my index finger on the toe and slide my thumb up to the heel. At some point it lets go and pops out, remaining firmly in my grip. The action is not too dissimilar to using a bottle opener, come to think of it 🤔
Call me strange, wouldn't there be some additional wear on the main slide guide rod? I appreciate it's simplicity and having the rod go all the way through like it's at least one less part to machine and make. Still, can't help but think that it's putting more wear on the piece in the long term. Maybe even help break it, eventually.
I wonder if there is a way to wrongly disassembly a gun and render it impossible/difficult to complete the procedure (or reassembly it). How gun designers treat this issue?
Worth to note that at the end of WW2 Korovin designed several rifles for intermediate cartridge. All of them remained on experimental stage and ultimately lost to AK (AFAIK all the prototypes were scraped after Korovin's death), but an interesting page of weapon history. (And also some of mentioned riffles were bullpups)
My great grandfather has a funny memory of this little pistol.
He was a guard of some train station in the middle of nowhere somewhere along the USSRs border in the 30s, one day a scruffy looking kid walks up to the station and demands to be let on a train adding on "or else" (or rather the equivalent Russian phrase) to make it seem like he meant business. My grandfather responds "or what?" and to my grandfather's surprise the kid pulls out one of these, only to be met by laughter since not only is this thing tiny and honestly kind of cute but it was also unloaded. The kid was then hit a few times by a good old Soviet baton before being hauled off by some soldiers.
Jerrell
Sadly, that young fellow must have been sent to his bunk without any supper.
@@g0679 more likely gulag
Kenny Ah, I’m not too sure. I’m pretty sure it was the teenage son of a mid ranking local official who had stolen his fathers handgun and decided to run away. Even so I’m betting the father stepped in and prevented him from going to a work camp.
How did they know it wasn't loaded?
Dwane Anderson The magazine was apparently not in the gun. That or the slide was held open and no round was chambered.
I wonder how many people's last words were 'Wow, what a cute pistol!'
I was thinking this was a criminally underrated comment but then I saw it was made 39 seconds before I read it.
Hendrik van Leeuwen , Many, many.
8:25 I love how he apologizes to the gun for forgetting to decock it
striker spring deformation 😩
its because he really does appreciate these beautiful pieces of history, i imagine him cuddling into some of his own collection at night, im so glad that we get to be involved in his passion for firearms, its just a pleasure watching him interact with these pieces!
So you're saying he was a revolutionary designer?
groan
Carlos!
Yes. Matryoshka style. safety locks barrel, barrel locks slide, slide locks the slide lock, and striker, which locks it's spring. Sam Colt nervously smokes around the corner.
@@oskaralpary1324 > safety locks barrel, barrel locks slide, slide locks the slide lock, and striker, which locks it's spring
in the house that Jack built. Obvious influence of English gun school.
He was a Bolshevik. The same ones running this plandemic.
Its Koróvin. From корóва - cow
Peti deti
So the guy was basically named Cowboy
@@G-Mastah-Fash more like just Cow, like "son of a cow"
@@stariyczedun Ты че несешь, чувак )
@@user-uj4zu8no9z Фамилия Коровин принадлежит к древнейшему типу русских фамилий, образованных от мирского имени.
Весьма популярно в старину было и древнее мирское имя-прозвище Корова. Это именование было распространено на Руси среди представителей разных сословий. К примеру, в древних грамотах упоминаются новгородский землевладелец Яков Корова Митин сын Шестаков (1495), крестьянин Семеновского погоста Осташко Корова (1495), московский отчинник Иван Корова Микулин сын Соболев (1511), холоп в Городенце Семенко Корова (1500), устюжский коморник Корова (1665), астраханский записный сборщик Ганко Корова (1679) и многие другие.
Simple, reliable, effective - not surprising it was made in large numbers, especially in a period when people in the USSR basically couldn't get foreign arms.
Beautifully engineered, love it when a part does more than one thing, like that multi function safety lever that in turn is secured by the main spring. Very well thought out.
Ian, he is not french. :D
It's KorOvin.
clearly too much time spent translating french technical mannual
🤣🤣🤣
Hey, it was pretty good rolled r tho!
It means cow though, da?
@@dashingdave2665 not quite, "cow" will be "корова" (koróva). Suffix -ин (-in) can mark belonging to something, for example, кошкин дом (kóshkin dom) - cat's house, or relation to something: last name Кошкин (Kóshkin) suggests that ancestors had something to do with cats
More often Russian last names emphasise onto second syllable - Koròvin, Makárov, Kaláshnikov... But not all...
.32's are having something of a comeback in revolvers. I'm a little surprised that Ruger or someone hasn't come out with a LCP style .25 acp. It's a caliber that just needs a little kick in the ballistic pants to make it a good carry round for very small, lightweight pistols. It feeds better than .22 and is centerfire reliable.
It’s a shame 25 acp mag tech averages out at 31 bucks for a box of 50 now. Even back in 2020 I remember paying 20$ for the same brand at the same store.
@@MultiRokusho and 20 seemed too much.
@@MultiRokusho I was shooting my vest pocket Colt and showed my cousin my ammo. I said, "you can tell I've had this a while." Because it was a box of fifty and the price written on it was $10.
In Czechia, tons of .25acp pistols were marketed as a protection against dogs and other animals.
I'm thinking that a pistol that fires very small rubber bullets could be marked as a way to non-lethally stagger targets
@X my friend, everyone here has dogs, if you live in a village. And those can usually jump over the fence, since owners don´t really give a sh*t. Happened to me once with a german shepard, luckilly the owner noticed me shouting at the dog and held him back. They aren´t aggressive, but highly territorial.
@X Rabies used to be a lot more common than today.
Cyclists pistols: roadswerenotbuiltforcars.com/guns/
Unsurprising. France did the same with the .22 Velo Dog, so clearly the usage concept stems from the design.
This gun vaguely reminds me of some of those tiny Berettas, mainly because of the way the trigger guard sticks out, and the exposed barrel.
One day I hope he opens with "hey guys thanks for tuning into another video on forgottenweapons, I'm Gun Jesus... And today"
I mean, Halloween is coming up, so hopefully.
Yassss. It is time he accepts his status as the ballistic messiah.
I think he's too modest to say something that pretentious.
Maybe for an April Fool’s episode featuring more Elbonian small arms?
I’d agree that it’d be jarring in a regular episode, but for a joke episode it’d be pretty entertaining.
Probably for Halloween...or if he does a video on a gun called the Trinity etc.
I'm curious if Gun Jesus has ever broken a part on a RIA firearm while disassemblying it and ended up having to buy the firearm himself
Doubt it. He's very careful with the fragile stuff.
He also has specifically declined to disassemble several firearms for that reason; the FG-42 springs to mind.
"Awww, but honey! Honestly, I was being r-e-a-l-l-y careful but I scratched it putting it back together & I HAD to buy it!...." etc etc.
He answered this in a Q&A a while back. "Not yet".
I believe he does it off camera before he does it also
I've always liked this little pistol. It's just comfy looking.
NKVD and NKGB officers were permitted to carry a service-grade sidearm, visible (that comes with uniform) - more often the weapon of their choise was Nagant revolver (for a simple reason that you could carry it all day long loaded without weakening mag spring) or Tokarev... They were even allowed to carry foreign-made handguns, like Mauser, Browning, Luger or Walther - again, full-sized... Very few of them were occasionally in the need of a pocket pistol...
The key to this riddle is what you said in the beginning - TK was the first ever Soviet-made handgun... It came when Soviets have only started gathering what's left from Tsar's weapon industry and bringing it to the new age... They needed sort of an entry exam - so, just like S&W in their own time, they've started with the small caliber...
Such small guns like TK are made for concealed carry - for people who don't need to announce they're armed... In Soviet Union, though, civilians were not permitted to carry handguns - even if they were drafted to any sort of military service... Most of TKs ended up in hands of flight sergeants and civilian pilots delivering cargo to the frontline... Officially, they were not allowed to carry a gun - but, if you're flying near a frontline, you'd better to have a gun... Officials are not bothered for as long as your gun stays in your pocket... Call it a tradition - for many years after the war, TK was familiar to airline crew captains, up until Makarov PM have arrived...
And, yes, lots of compact-sized less-powered handguns were unofficially carried by female personnel during the war...
A little more historical detail: in 1905 Russia went through an almost-revolution, the Revolution of 1905. Czar Nicholas II managed to end this period of national unrest with reform and a constitution, which he hated. He backpedaled on his reforms and then got into WW1, and then whoops, the Revolution of 1917 happened and his government was totally toppled. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyway, the Okhrana (aka the Czarist secret police) always focused super heavily on Universities, which makes sense, as this is where a lot of dissent against the Czarist regime was most vocal. As far as I can tell, the Kharkov Technical Institute is still around as Kharkiv Polytechnic Institute, a big Ukrainian university. If Korovin was kicked out in 1905, there's a good chance that his Revolutionary Political Activity could have been agitating in favor of a liberal capitalist democracy with civil rights, or even as moderate as agitating in favor of a constitutional monarchy. The Okhrana didn't really obey due process that diligently. It's also possible that he was a Marxist or Anarcho-Socialist. There were Anarcho-Socialist terrorists around in 1905, but the Okhrana probably would have executed him if he was caught in that gig.
If you have free time, I really strongly recommend Mike Duncan's podcast Revolutions.
I wouldn't be surprised if his revolutionary pedigree helped tremendously getting government approval under the Soviets so early. A lot of the discontent boiled over thanks to Russia losing the Russo-Japanese War (and losing most of their navy and some territory in China as a result.). Well, that and the Army shooting a bunch of protestors. That tends to radicalize people!
Sounds like I have another podcast to add to Dan Carlin.
Not "Okhrana" but "Okhranka" which is a slang derivative from "Okhrannoye Otdeleniye". That translates as "Guarding Department" and full name would be "Department of guarding public security and order" (I'm not writing full russian transliteration for that). Here's an interesting fact: "okhranka" had no rights of conducting investigations and was tasked with agent management and surveillance. Invasive actions were conducted by Jeandarmery corps.
Ayyy a fellow listener of Revolutions.
@@vonSchwarzberg hi, I'm curious, you seem unusually educated on the subject, especially on social media. Are you a professor of Russian history?
I have been fascinated with this pistol for years, so glad you did a video on it. I hope to own one of these neat little guys one day.
what it costs
A cool little gun, quite rare in the USSA. I have only seen a couple or so for sale in many years of gun collecting.
A "Back in the USSA" moment
good old times when people were not so bulletproof and 25ACP was good enough for self defence.... nowadays a 9mm is a bare minimum, anything else will probably just bounce off.... :D
The problem is crack...
The existence of the other ACPs suggests there was great disagreement at the time over what constitutes "good enough", and we have a century more data now.
I still cannot fathom the 9 dislikes. Are they Pognophobes or do they dislike educational military history?
It wasn't used for self defence, rather for shooting undesirables in the base of the skull point blank.
@matt john Depends on whether we're talking about "eventually died of wounds" or "stopped after X shots" data
The open top slide, the striker, some aspects of the barrel, all remind me of the 1914 and 1932 Mauser pistols. Even back then, Russian research was at least partly copying other countries.
The Italian made Armi Tanfoglio Giuseppe GT-27, from the trigger forward, is a simplified version with the barrel pinned in place. Recoil spring, guide rod, safety, trigger are all virtually identical.
I don't know why exactly, but I really liked the mechanical explanations for this pistol.
Wow, fascinating video Ian, cool gun!
The Korovin's safety with its 180 degree arc from Fire to Safe is very reminiscent of the Nambu series of pistols.
what it costs
@@zurabachvelashvili1653$3.50
I'd carry this design today it looks so fun
What magazine was actually in there, and is it actually compatible or does it just fit in the space?
It just vaguely fits; would not actually function. Not sure of the make.
@@ForgottenWeapons I know some politicians just like that.
i believe the magazine included is a First series Star model D magazine (Original Spanish version of the colt pony/iver johnson Model D)@@johnkelinske1449
I would like to know more about these simple weapons Korovin worked on during the war, if you come across one definitely do a video on it.
Xochesh kupi.. 5 tishi evro cena
Seems like a very nice and effective design
Really long awaited video! Good job!
Reminds me alot of my Mauser 1914/35 pocket pistol in terms of the mechanics and some of the looks!
This looks like a vastly-simplified Mauser 1914 pistol. The firing pin looks almost identical. Sear arrangement and disassembly are much more efficient.
My grеat-grandfather was awarded with a this pistol in 1934
Wait, as in this model of pistol, or this specific one?
@@sumvs5992 I'll translate your question
Перевод этого вопроса: То есть, пистолет этого образца или тот же пистолет из ролика?
@@sumvs5992 Probably the model dingoos, I dunno where you got the idea that it was that specific one.
За что?
@@jerrell1169 from the way I read this comment, it just seemed like they might be saying that
Don’t know how I just stumbled onto this but thank you for the video!
Would love to know more about 6.3mm tula ammo.
I think he already told us everything about it: .25 ACP loaded about 20% hotter, roughly equivalent to a .25 ACP +P load.
@@jic1 what kind of velocity, was it a heavier bullet, How common are guns chamber in 6.3 tula. Lots more info would be interesting.
+p is a pretty vague description.
@@jic1 it's 20-25% more muzzle energy with a longer heavier bullet. Giving it more penetration than standard 25acp ammo. Calling that +p isn't "everything" about such an obscure round.
It was called 6.35 mm cartridge 57-N-112 - 6.35×15.24 mm SR, made by Factory №3 in Ulayanovsk (modern-day UPZ, a subsidiary of TulAmmo). Its Berdan primer wasn't always perfectly centered due to QC issues, 3.25 g lead brass-jacketed bullet developed around 220-230 m/s (typically 228 m/s) velocity from the muzzle. It was unmarked, but could easily be recognized by its shorter case and overall poor quality. There was an attempt to make a steel-cored variant of its bullet in the mid-30's, but it went nowhere. It's no longer made (guess why), even by the '70's it was unobtainble in any significant quantity, UPZ nowadays doesn't offer anything smaller than .380 Auto.
@@F1ghteR41 thank you very much.
Berdan primers is a shock to me! Was that ammo specifically for this gun? I haven't seen any info on guns chamber for it except this 1.
And lo, Gun Jesus looked at the Korovin and said, "I probably should have decocked it first."
my thought at that moment was bang then the spring goes flying across the room.
That lil gun has a lot of elegant solutions in its design. Great explanation of its parts and function Ian.
Broken mainspring on a .25?
No problem; just use one out of a ball point pen.😁
A lot of pocket pistols have very strong main springs
The .30 caliber Tokarev, and Mauser are the same dimensions, and will chamber in the same guns, but Tokarev is loaded to higher pressure. So, do not load, and fire Tokarev ammo in a Broomhandle Mauser (I guess unless you handload it to Mauser spec, which might be tricky with the lacquered steel cases of Crazy Ivan's Surplus) It's not good for the gun, which may be a valuable collectable. (Because of Star Wars, the Broomhandle Mauser is a popular collectible.)
Very much like the .223/5.56 dilemma.
30 tokerev is a development from 30 mauser and a lot of the sovieet developmental work was in 30 mauser
@@DNchap1417
Are you trying to stir up some shit?
I’ve seen a few C96’s destroyed by hundreds of rounds of Tokarev ammo. Guy considered the $6-800 shooter grade C96’s he was destroying “expendable” because he bought them for a couple hundred bucks in the 90’s and the ammo was $0.05 a round. Two nice Mausers and an Astra with locking lugs sheared off turned into paper weights.
Thats worse than a bubba
I really like .25/6,35mm pocket pistols.
I've never seen this one before. It is interesting and cool.
There's this game called heroes and generals. It's free to play and actually plays very nice. The korovin is the starting pistol for the Soviet army
I'm reminded of one of those funky Chinese mystery pistols that Ian made an ensemble video of back in the day
Browning browning browning
It's amazing how so many guns go missing in less then 100 years
@LooksForLogos lmao you probably never spoke to anyone who lived in soviet union
The pistol most people know via Heroes & Generals.
I feel called out.
Oh how many frags I have harvested with mine
I feel like HnG has a lot of cool weapons in it before they were featured on forgotten weapons/known mainstream (i think the Johnson lmg and avs were in the game before Ian made a vid bout them)
It’s the best buddy of my PTRS
Is the community still alive?
I feel the last time I played was over 2 years ago, and have wanted to hop back in...
"Stalin's joke" was apparently the nickname of this gun. The reason is, since the gun was available only to high ranking officials (and the police), owners, who were all Party members at the time of Stalin's purges used to say they were allowed to own this gun only to shoot themselves and avoid gulag, should they be suddenly considered traitors and arrested.
I own very few guns... Love when Ian goes into one I have...
6:39 Sorry, but I think it's nothing but a myth brought up in 1999 Monetchikov's biography of Korovin. Original documents (including 1934 drawings set from Ul'yanovsk №3 Factory) state that 6.35 mm cartridge 57-N-112 had shorter-than-spec case (15.24 mm), and its 3.25 g bullet developed around 220-230 m/s (typically 228 m/s) velocity.
Didn't know bout that little one. Thank you for the video! Greetengs from Motherland ❤️
7:40 Ah, the first lathe project for every aspiring machinist rears its head.
On april 1st I want to see a forgotten weapons video on a nerf blaster
Kind of like how Road and Track used to do weird vehicle reviews in April? Goodyear blimp. Pogo stick. Tank.
@@catherinewhite2943 that or a cross review with coop447
My favorite April Fools gun video was the Garand Thumb MA37 review. Stayed in character and in-universe for the whole thing, and the effort and attention to detail that went into the props was truly impressive.
Or a collab with steveMRE where they discuss something totally poisonous
@@thesturm8686 Oh, like that would stop Steve trying it...
That little guy is adorable, my wife wants one now.
Your wife wants her own little Gun Jesus?
@@PaulVerhoeven2 (cue penis joke)
But seriously, I recently got my wife a Ruger .32 LCP that came with a bra holster. She wasnt to big into guns before but now shes constantly trying to find a companion pistol to go with the Ruger.
@STANLEY JACOB I'm kinda ashamed to admit this but, I got her the Ruger right before the virus hit and we still haven't shot it yet so i can neither confirm nor deny.
@STANLEY JACOB YMMV - I've experienced no problem with .32 ACP jamming in my Walther PP or Beretta 81.
@STANLEY JACOB I paid $200 for the surplus Beretta (came from a correctional facility), $25 for a best of ten hand selection from the lot (a crap shoot that did not work out for a number of people according to comments but I got pretty lucky), $27 for the extended warranty (because surplus and really sketchy parts availability), $35 for a spare magazine (like new), $68 for LOK G-10 grips (the originals are in excellent condition but I can't stress enough how much better these make it for consistent shooting for me). Altogether I could have just paid retail for a new, probably better, pistol. I wouldn't trade it for anything, in fact I just ordered a new Falco holster for it for $46 (I really recommend Falco, you have to wait for them but they've proven to be worth it for me).
Could it be the brand of ammo you've tried? _I always look there first._ It's not necessarily a quality thing - some brands of ammo just don't always like some particular pistols and this problem is more widespread than the internet might suggest.
Magazine isn't dirty or sticky? The 32 is semi-rimmed so you want to mind how it stacks in the magazine to avoid rim locking.
The hk is a good pistol, I hope you can get it sorted out. It's a fun caliber to shoot.
Matryoshka style. Safety locks barrel, barrel locks slide, slide locks the slide lock, and striker, which locks it's spring. Sam Colt nervously smokes around the corner.
Thank you so much!!!
I am Russian. No one, I say again, for the people at the back, no one is as objective about Russian firearms as Ian is, in the West. Ian needs to get some sort of Russian medal. I would give him a medal for:"The love of Motherland!". No jokes. Russian culture owes Ian. Long live Gun Jesus!!!
As a Russian born American citizen you’re correct sir!
@@vitiate5093 Thank you.
@@MeshFrequency you’re welcome 😃
Most Americans that know a decent amount about firearms really like/are interested in Russian firearms.
@@Joe-hz1nw that is true
Pretty sharp design, there.
#513537 was brought home by my dad at the end of WW II. I will never know the truth about how he obtained it. Toward the end of his cognitive life, he told my son that "somebody died for me to have it.' What ever took place, happened in Belgium.
Reminds me of a hunchbacked Mauser 1914
Wow, I would love to find one. Cool pistol.
Nice looking little pistol!
Last time I was this early that was a state of the art pistol.
YES! Finally. Thanks, Ian.
Him to 'fraid to get out. He's just a wittle guy!
-To quote great comedic actor of my time.
Neat little pistol. These sorts are all pretty close in build. I used to have a Sterling in .22LR. IT was a cute little .22LR in Stainless steel with black plastic grips. It had the heal mag release that was made of some cheap crapmetal, I dropped it one day and the release broke at the pin that held it in place I took it to a local machinist and he knocked me out one that was much better then the original in about five minutes, charged me a fin and I was verry happy with my little pocket pistol. The gun love CCI Stingers and would run through all of them that I Could feed her. She also liked CCI Mini Mags but standard velocity rounds were iffy. Eventually the sear wore down on it and it started doubling and tripling. I was at the range one day with a local preacher who ministered to the local Indian Reservation. He loved the doubling, and wanted the pistol very badly, I finally broke down and sold it to him. Hope he had good luck with it.
Interesting little pistol...made use of the same keeper system for the grip panels as the TT30 and TT33. I'm curious if the safety was a part of the original design or if it was added for importation. It looks a lot like the ones used on some of the TT33 pistols we see imported today. Also, any idea how many were imported or when?
Safety is original
The kind of small gun I love.
Literally as I was browsing through all the crap on the recommended page the red dot on my subscription feed popped up.
Poor .25ACP, it gets a bad rap today. Even .32 ACP is far too looked down upon by a lot of people. I’ve got a Seecamp LWS in .32, I absolutely love it, slick little gun.
They even make a .380 version in EXACTLY the same dimensions as the .32 version. I’m no expert but that seems remarkable.
Ian, I’d be more than willing to lend mine over if you feel like doing a video on it.
I do love the idea behind the 6.3 Tula "+P". If your gonna' pack a .25 auto you need all the extra P you can muster.
Thank you , Ian .
Hi, Ian. I enjoyed learning about that little pistol. Give it a little styling polish while keeping the basic design, and you have a viable product today. Would it be a nice little 7-11 under the counter defense pistol? Or, for a biker or hiker, small is beautiful. Anyway, I appreciate the design very much. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
Why would a hiker need a gun?
@@clairevero Dangerous animal encounters. Of both the four and two-legged varieties.
This was really interesting. Thanks
In Soviet Russia we get baby gun in cereal
for a 1920's pocket pistol design it's actually a pretty good design. Moderately simple, decent grip & rather shootable. Probably the balance of production is in a cave/bunker in Siberia, just like everything else Mother Russia produces for their military.
Thanks Ian.
This thing looks pretty cool for a 25auto the barrel seems to be a little bit longer than most guns chambered for 25 I would love to see it being fired...
Striker is reminiscent of the Ortgies striker.
Looks like Korovin copied quite some from the Beholla pistol and just improved the disassembly.
But by that the trigger dropped a little, the bore axis got a little higher, the safety only acts on the trigger, not on the sear and he introduced additional parts for a hold-open.
And why did he design the trigger with this weird operating angle like he did?
"When WWI broke out..." You mean, "When war were declared"?
Perfect for the traditional point-blank to the back of the head.
Sidearm Pistol From NKVD.
The quickest and neatest way I've found for removing this type of heel-catch mag (same as Makarov) is to hook my index finger on the toe and slide my thumb up to the heel. At some point it lets go and pops out, remaining firmly in my grip.
The action is not too dissimilar to using a bottle opener, come to think of it 🤔
It always amaze me, how pretty rare guns - rare even in country of origin - fall into Ian the hands all the time. God bless Burgerland gun laws.
Tremenda Tula
Oh no, comrade! They are shooting .25ACP, Better put on heavy coat!
Great video, interesting firearm.
this is closer to a Mauser than it is a beretta (which the beretta model 1915 was a mauser 1910/1914 ripoff anyway)
Daaaammmnnn.... that thing looks pretty nice!
That’s a cool little pistol!
Today he is not Gun Jesus
Today he is Gun Rasputin
Ra-ra-rasputin
Russian greatest war machine!
Call me strange, wouldn't there be some additional wear on the main slide guide rod?
I appreciate it's simplicity and having the rod go all the way through like it's at least one less part to machine and make.
Still, can't help but think that it's putting more wear on the piece in the long term. Maybe even help break it, eventually.
Nice little gun would like to hear it go bang bang looks like a good shooter
So you could convert this to full auto using only a handfile? Or am I misunderstanding something? That would be redicolously easy
Rubber mallet: one of a gunsmith's most useful tools. I got mine at Harbor Freight and just call it the Acme Big F----ing Mallet.
I have wondered a number of times if plans for some of these Forgotten Weapons were available?
How many people met their end in the Lyubianka via this pistol?
Ian you look tired, take some rest please!
Not to be rude, but you look like you need some rest, Ian.
Yep, your eyebags have bags.
Must have been up all night playing with his now working MAS 38 SMG.
don't we all
Ian is definitely getting older before our eyes.
Always great advice. Its free and does more for good health than any exercise.
I wonder if there is a way to wrongly disassembly a gun and render it impossible/difficult to complete the procedure (or reassembly it). How gun designers treat this issue?
Worth to note that at the end of WW2 Korovin designed several rifles for intermediate cartridge. All of them remained on experimental stage and ultimately lost to AK (AFAIK all the prototypes were scraped after Korovin's death), but an interesting page of weapon history.
(And also some of mentioned riffles were bullpups)
The striker spring guide rod seems to be missing.
I am from Kharkiv, the city he was expelled from. Even working at the University he studied at.
I'm always down for early Soviet firearms.