The strange thing is, you can make a perfect copy of an AK-47 in 3D and use it in your game. Just call it BK-47 or anything other non copyrighted name.
@@skepticalbadger You can't, legally. Same with cars. You have to pay the company to use/show their product in your game. Ofc some rando indie game using the name AK47 is not the issue here, I'm talking about big companies. That's why CS 1.6 had CV-47 instead of AK-47. And ofc Mikhail Kalashnikov holds the trademark....
Bond: well I was wondering if you could get me some- Ian: Berthiers? Bond: what? No sir, I would like Ian: An original RSC? Bond: I don't mean to come across as rude but what I need is a small and easily concealable handgun, do you have any? Ian: Well I have some original Rubys in .32 ACP Bond: I'll just smuggle some pistols out of america then
Gaston Glock probably used his fury from seeing this abomination to fight off his assassins at that parking lot in Austria by imagining they were the designers.
@@chaegibson720 because usually firearms fanatics are fan of the the original feature of the gun, and usually, they hate an opposite kind of it. i know my explanation is a little confusing, so let me give you an example. AK fans and AR15 fans hate each other. AR15 fans brag about its "lego" capability, meaning, you can easily swap parts and easily add accessories. While AK fans brag AK with its simple, reliable design that doesnt need any attachment. This is why AK fans are hating on AK that is heavily accessorized, or as we put it"gucci-fied" , because their argument is "dont make an AK an M4" and on the other side of the line, AR15 fans are hating on heavily accessorized AK because their argument is "why would you modify AK like that if you like the design? you rather have an AR15" this is not everyone, just the fanatic ones.
it's like what happens when a TV show forces to characters together into a romantic relationship fans did not want and their offspring is the most unlikable asswhole who ruins it for everyone.
So much fail here... All that machining and engineering to create a mad chimera. Now I don't have to like the product to see that a lot of effort and skill went into making that gun. But my mind boggles when I see they then put what looks like a bargain basement extremely cheap and nasty tubular lock in the but of the pistol grip. What were they thinking? I mean they have to have put some thought into the aesthetics of the gun. They put a useless beaver tail on it just to make it look more like a 1911, and then they thought it was a great idea to install a chromed tubular lock that looks like it was ripped from an office desk drawer on it? For the moment let's just ignore that the idea of putting a lock on a gun is something very few people think is a good idea in the first place. How'd that go? OK, so it's hard to imagine, but just bear with it for a few seconds. Now imagine you are sitting in a meeting discussing the safety features of the gun and are talking about the lock. Now remember that you are trying to design a premium gun that will sell at a premium price to a select few who has the money and are interested in getting a gun with the grip and trigger action of a 1911 and the slide and hopefully reliability of a Glock. Now wouldn't it have made sense to use a lock that doesn't scream "office supplies"?
I mean, it might be the only safety that can kind of make sure that if a kid just randomly picks it up, it cannot shoot the gun. If you have that locked... but then... you can just lock it... somewhere else... like a safe... and still need a key... Yeaaah... i rest my case, it looks horrible and is practicaly useless.
We bought one of these over the counter back in the day. As I recall, it was ok with reliability, but we never really shook it down crazy hard to find out. What killed it for us was it was very uncomfortable at the back of the frame, working the safety. This is because it was a huge gun for only 10+1. I also recall the slide serrations sucked rocks. Not really useable. And we worried about mags, the gun lock failing, and overall support. So it was dumped. Didn’t know how rare it was. Hell! That example might have been ours!!! Regards, Marky
Looks like a gun custom made special police unit and used in a viral outbreak caused by a multinational pharmaceutical corporation when they try to create a living weapon.
@@kgkbuugj InRange TV would be the main one, ruclips.net/user/InrangeTvShow There may be others, but there is a the occasional crossover as well, for example I seem to remember something with The_Chieftain.
Lighter material has less mass for its volume, I believe. Since mass is practically equivalent to inertia, and slide inertia is what keeps the action closed on blowback action, the weight is critical. Lighter material simply means it's larger for it's weight.
@@edgarburlyman738 Hi-Point slides are heavy _because_ they're blowback. The mass is what resists the pressure long enough for the pressure to drop to safe levels. The (rare) centerfire blowbacks you see are all _delayed_ blowbacks, using rollers or something to slow the lightweight slide. Hi-Points are actually kind of genius. The creator, in Detroit, said "Hey, there's all this die-casting equipment around here for cars, I bet I could design a gun that'd be really cheap to make with it." And he did. Fixed barrel, molded plastic lower, die cast slide, a couple springs, a trigger, and a mag. Dead simple, very cheap, very reliable, very tough, surprisingly accurate...and annoyingly top-heavy.
Having worked as a machinist primarily in aerospace for 25-plus years, the comparison between the engineering disciplines you spoke about is absolutely true. Jet engines/airframes have to function in a much more controlled environment/use-case than firearms do.
It's like mixing Toyota with Alfa Romeo, you're hoping for a car that looks like an Alfa and is reliable like a Toyota. But sadly often you end up with a Toyota looking car and randomly catches fire.
@@ronaldlollis8895 One fine day with a woof and a purr, a baby was born and cause a little stir. No blue buzzard, no three eyed frog. It's a canine-feline, little catdog...
@@cgi2002 Likewise ... In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing it, with a Lone Wolf Slide, plus one of their threaded barrels, and dust cap; a rectangular, Osprey, suppressor; and Trijicon Tough & Bright night sights, plus one of theirs RMR sights, as well. In fact, I wonder if extending the whole thing to 8", would add anything extra to that gun, if the company really wanted to go out on limb with, as a commentator named it, the 'Glockteen - Eleven" ...
While there probably was a reason behind fictional guns, they felt especially strange after seeing and using actual weapons in every other game, hearing legit gun enthusiast talk between characters about real firearms (such as the amazing conversations between Snake and Sigint), reading about them in their menu descriptions, etc. But hey, I guess made-up guns fit the whole big ass ruse vibe of MGSV lol
The old Police dept that we had here got one for T&E. A couple of guys had NDs with their Glocks. So the Township supervisors put in a manual safety rule. They went with the S&W MP. Less than a year later the Chief, Lt, and Sgt were all brought up on Federal drug charges and the dept folded. I wonder what happened to it
I met Bill in the early 2000’s. I’ve had a couple of his pistols, one made to my specs (combat sights, lighter trigger spring and finish). Interchangeable 45 ACP and 40 SW, both work well. Very few issues, ramp polishing mainly. It’s pretty accurate too. Bill’s intent was to get a military contract which didn’t work out. My only regret was not buying the 10mm upper and magazines.
I like the idea of a metal-frame, striker-fired pistol, and it seems like there is renewed interest in the concept recently, with the Hudson H9, the Walther Q5 SF and Q4 SF, and the SIG-Sauer P320 AXG Scorpion. Hudson didn’t make it, but that seems like it was due to quality control issues more than lack of interest.
@@krockpotbroccoli65 Bro you need to calm down, its just a gun. There's nothing inherently more monstrous, horrible, or goofy about this gun than any other, except that lock.
I remember when these were introduced. I was right out of high school working at a gunshop not far from where these were being manufactured. A few were consigned and a few local Seattle area shops had ONE in stock, as a reference, just to get publicity, but NONE ever sold. People looked at them like a train wreck. Remember this was 1995 when 1911 and HK USP ruled. These were well made, featured a nice linear 1911 style 5-7 pound trigger, but a failure. It's great they made it to production, but it never caught on with the public or law enforcement community. Thank you for the video. Brings back memories I was blessed growing up in such a innovative area. Seattle is home to Detonics, Rainier Arms, AeroPrecisionusa.com, Zev, Mega, Oly Arms, AeroTec, Fortis, and many more. It was great having the opportunity to work for these companies and meet some of the people behind these brands
The idea was to stop curious *children.* Like, toddlers, pre-schoolers, and kindergarteners. The funny thing is that you can do that pretty well by just not loading the gun, as any kid who has the intelligence and problem-solving abilities to load a firearm is smart enough to be taught gun safety. The only thing those locks would have accomplished if anyone ever actually used them would be to make some poor bastard's last words "Shit, where's the key?"
Lot 457 in the December 2019 Premier Firearms Auction is one which should definitely be looked at. One of the first forty contract 1911s produced at Colt. There is also a couple of pre-production Union Switch & Signal 1911s.
Interesting. I think my path may have crossed with them on one or two occasions back around 2002-2003. My college class took some courses in a building they were doing R&D work out of in south Auburn. It's also interesting that you posted this as I am contemplating making a novel pistol design myself right now. It's an ambitious project and I can't afford to fail. So, stuff to think about.
Yeah, saved one of the *worst* features of the 1911 (the grip safety, although a fixed beavertail wouldn't be a *bad* idea, especially a slightly more moderate one), and took one of the finest triggers and mated it to a striker system that has an even worse trigger pull than a Glock. It's like you combined the Swedish Bikini Team and Victoria's Secret and ended up with Quasimodo in a thong...
The frame not being polymer isn't really an issue, as it does shoot better with the added mass. Many companies are going back to steel framed options for a reason. The issue is it is a steel frame, pretending to be a polymer, and just looking ugly and uncomfortable. Seriously, why didn't he just put a 1911/2011 frame on the damn thing with customizable grips.
You guys nailed it. When I heard Glock/1911 ,I thought a Glock with a really first rate trigger. If they really did it right it would have a single stack nice thin ergonomic grip like a 1911 but no grip safety. Use as many off the shelf Glock parts. No extra dodads. They managed to get the worst parts of both guns.
I expect so. I've never had the chance to examine the rear end of G21 and G23 slides or frames side-by-side, but I suspect that the part in question needs to be located slightly differently in .45ACP than in .40S&W.
@@MikeDCWeld Just for the heck of it I tired a 19 slide on a 21 frame and it stops about the same place as in the video. I'm pretty sure a gen 1, 2, or 3 Glock upper would fit and function on this frame. Though the Spectre uses different mags so maybe the feed ramp on the barrel could be different or the breech face where it pushes a round out of the magazine. But a Glock 19/23 upper would never work on it.
7:51 As far as a titanium slide is concerned, you could maybe achieve similar delay to a steel slide by redesigning the short-recoil system so that the barrel and slide travel backwards together for a longer distance, but that seems like it would take a lot of redesign for other components, especially the frame, and you might see accuracy and reliability suffer as a result. It would also lead to some issues (assuming that the barrel is steel) with the area of the slide where it contacts the barrel at the front of the ejection port would wear out a lot more quickly. surface hardness is generally not titanium's strong suit. You would have to either carbidize that region or insert a steel bearing surface, which both add cost. Also, not to be pedantic, but titanium alloys tend to be weaker than high-strength steels in an absolute sense, using the typical convention of load/area to define stress, but they do usually have higher strength to mass ratios. I can't think of much benefit to a titanium slide other than reduced overall weight, but that would be much better achieved by using a polymer frame. I'd expect higher felt recoil from the lower mass, and probably a much higher unit cost since titanium alloys are such a pain to machine.
Nah, the Hudson was much better executed. The only part of the Hudson that feels weird is the trigger because it's hinged at the bottom, and that's just "weird" not bad. Otherwise, grip feels good, trigger *pull* is good, muzzle doesn't flip much, etc. Where Hudson screwed up was announcing the aluminum frame before their steel frames were selling enough to pay the bills. I was going to buy a Hudson but decided to wait until the aluminum frame was out because I don't want a third all steel pistol.
I imagine the titanium-slide version would've had weighted steel inserts on the inside of the slide (most likely as part of the breech assembly) to add mass for cycling. I'm almost positive that it was offered for durability and corrosion-resistance reasons, rather than for the lighter weight. Plus it's just the single most tactical gun ever. "Guys, come check out my titanium-and-polymer Glockteen11!"
As a former aerospace engineer, I can say that Ian's comment regarding "an engineer assumes that the components interacting with your thing are going to be as well made as your thing" is totally spot on but not for the reason but not for the reason he insinuates. Yes, manufacturing practice within the aerospace industry requires extremely high quality for *some* parts. It seemed to me at the time that laziness and an overreliance on high quality manufacturing (i.e. holding unnecessarily tight tolerances) has perpetuated this myth.
@Hexxer Gaming I dunno if you're sarcastic or not, it's just the HERESY of combining the ol' reliable 1911 with the plastic gun. And no, I am not actually mad. HERESY!!! was just my first thought when reading the title.
What *should* happen when a Glock and a 1911 love each other very much is a polymer frame and double stack magazine under a 1911 slide. That'd actually be an improvement. I suppose that a Glock style barrel may also be an improvement in terms of machining (less things to cut). But this? 🤮
I could see the use of a titanium slide that's weighted to the proper mass with lead or tungsten inserts in the nose, probably in the 'corners' up above the barrel.
Later on that same table: "This is the Lockpicking Lawyer, and I've got something a little different for you this time. At first glance, this looks more like a Glock than a lock, but in fact it's equal parts both..."
I honestly love this design! Which is why I got the hudson H9 when it came out. Sadly Hudson went under and I am hopeful a company comes along and gives the H9 a reboot!!!
Oh Ian, you’re 1 of my favourite RUclipsrs, your audience loves you both for your content & for who you are as a person but I just don’t know if I can aver forgive you for that Sean Connery impression! LOL! 😄
I feel like the HK45 is a much better execution of this same idea.
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At least the lock is not a crappy wafer lock, but tubular pin tumbler locks (with some exceptions) are nowadays easily opened with impressioning tools (see e.g. @LockPickingLawyer videos).
Actually steel is stronger than titanium. The thing with titanium is that its very light for its strength and very resistant to erosion. Also its heat resistant and doesnt conduct electicity. Edit: the electricity thing is wrong also its only the modulus of elasticity that´s higher with steel.
@IanMcCallum I'd be honestly fascinated to see what features you personally would put into your own pistol design - and if there are any designs which come close to perfection (in your opinion). It's almost 2021. Based on your skillset & remarkable knowledge of weapon design history, I reckon that you could come up with a truly advanced 21st century weapon. (Though I'm still waiting to see if caseless ammunition could ever become a thing.)
I love this channel so much but the Connery impression just bumped it up a notch in my book, it just cements my assumption that Ian would be a really cool guy to hang with.
4:46 If the LockPickingLawyer has taught me anything, it's that tubular cores can be very hit or miss. It would be really interesting to watch him pick into this gun.
I think there's a brilliant design in that. I think the grip isn't one of them, but that little notch, that feedback to say 'the trigger is right behind this mark', is brilliant. It's simple, it's minor, it's just a bit of material, but the information it can give a shooter, that is hard to put a value on. Plus, dare I say it, might even help in stressful situations, under the clock. A simple touch and you just 'know'.
Love how you touched on the ammunition compatibility with firearms manufacturing, not what a lot of people think about. But if you're cool, well engineered and designed firearm doesn't cycle nearly 100% of ammunition nearly 100% of the time the good luck at trying to sale it for dirt cheap or even at all.
There is a subset of the aerospace industry that would be familiar with rugged, rough-tolerance engineering - the designers of STOL and bush planes would have similar considerations. It is a niche segment these days, but the An-2, and the DeHavilland Canada STOL planes (Beaver, Otter, Caribou, Buffalo, etc.) did have to be sturdy and reliable enough to operate in the remote north with 1950's engineering while allowing for some degree of field-expedient repair in the taiga or tundra.
Made this Matv2099 joke but apparently someone else did too, mine was like 20minutes after the video was uploaded, but has less likes so i changed this comment
Looks like a Gun from a video game that was designed not to infringe firearm copyrights
The strange thing is, you can make a perfect copy of an AK-47 in 3D and use it in your game. Just call it BK-47 or anything other non copyrighted name.
@@TuRmIx96 who holds the "AK-47" trademark currently?
@@TuRmIx96 You can call it AK-47, and most games do. No IP issues there.
@@TuRmIx96 as long as you don’t call it a brand name AK47.
@@skepticalbadger You can't, legally. Same with cars. You have to pay the company to use/show their product in your game. Ofc some rando indie game using the name AK47 is not the issue here, I'm talking about big companies. That's why CS 1.6 had CV-47 instead of AK-47. And ofc Mikhail Kalashnikov holds the trademark....
This would just be called "pistol" in a videogame.
And it shoots pistol bullets
@@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers From a clip.
And a super-long stick magazine would give you +5 bullets.
Aren't you a real boy, Hubert Cumberdale?
In PS3 or 360 game...
So the Glockteen11 isn't just a meme. Okay then.
Ahh you beat me to it hahaha 😄
Gun Jesus has expanded ur wisdom
Glock 19-11
Reality can be stranger than fiction
Make the meme, but use a picture of this gun. At least someone will claim meme magic.
Bond: Hey, you’re not Q.
Ian: I’m his replacement, now what French gun do you want?
Good thing Manurhin made Walther PPs
Bond: well I was wondering if you could get me some-
Ian: Berthiers?
Bond: what? No sir, I would like
Ian: An original RSC?
Bond: I don't mean to come across as rude but what I need is a small and easily concealable handgun, do you have any?
Ian: Well I have some original Rubys in .32 ACP
Bond: I'll just smuggle some pistols out of america then
@@londonjolly9174 I wish they made Makarovs, personally a better gun.
@@londonjolly9174 Manurhin PP sounds like something else when you say it out loud.
@@Treblaine I think any name mixed with PP when said out loud will always cause a reaction
That’s the kinda gun the Spartans would toss off a cliff for not being normal
Lmao!
Hahahaa First laugh of the day and it was a good one !! : ))
Absolutely best single sentence synopsis of this pistol possible.
I am stealing this joke to be adapted to different situations. Time to go to the orphanage!
A Spartan would toss it off a cliff and pick off a Covenant soldier with it.
And John Moses Browning looked upon his beloved work and said "wtf?"
Gaston Glock probably used his fury from seeing this abomination to fight off his assassins at that parking lot in Austria by imagining they were the designers.
Look how they massacred my boy
Was ist das?
The Journey Ahead I'm sure he would say "WTH" What the hell. He was a Mormon after all.
@@davidcollis4758 I'm not apart of the pc crowd.
"Suprisingly, no magazine safety..."
Alchemy Arms guys: "I knew we forgot something."
That one R&D guy at Alchemy. If only we had added the magazine safety, it woulda sold
“You got your Glock in my 1911! You got your 1911 in my Glock!”
'70's and '80's kids rock!
LOOOL
Nice! Retro commit that rocks!
I'm officer Spectre, what happened here?!
@@TPDManiacXC626oh.. youre both dead
The Lock Picking Lawyer will be along shortly to do a review.
Opened with a ball point pen body in under 5 seconds
I was thinking exactly that.
There is a roll pin holding the lock with both ends visible. Perfect for a hinge pin removal tool.
“Here’s the paper clip that Bosnian Bill and I bent”
The crossover we've all been waiting for
This looks like an paintball pistol from a brand that doesn't have the rights to any existing design
I just pulled out a Core ZX. Can confirm. It's like they're twins.
As someone who did airsmith work on a number of mag fed paintball pistols, I can confirm.
Also - fuck magfed paintball markers.
Spectre, where 1911 fans and glock fans will put their differences aside to show hate on this
Its like an Early Hudson 9.
What why it’s beautiful
@@chaegibson720 because usually firearms fanatics are fan of the the original feature of the gun, and usually, they hate an opposite kind of it. i know my explanation is a little confusing, so let me give you an example.
AK fans and AR15 fans hate each other.
AR15 fans brag about its "lego" capability, meaning, you can easily swap parts and easily add accessories.
While AK fans brag AK with its simple, reliable design that doesnt need any attachment.
This is why AK fans are hating on AK that is heavily accessorized, or as we put it"gucci-fied" , because their argument is "dont make an AK an M4"
and on the other side of the line, AR15 fans are hating on heavily accessorized AK because their argument is "why would you modify AK like that if you like the design? you rather have an AR15"
this is not everyone, just the fanatic ones.
@@Seth9809 hmmm... maybe a little... hudson 9, while having a blocky slide still looks a lot like 1911.
it's like what happens when a TV show forces to characters together into a romantic relationship fans did not want and their offspring is the most unlikable asswhole who ruins it for everyone.
Next: a Desert Eagle slide on a Walther PPK. Without any scaling.
Should work fine. .
50AE?? Lol
Part of me wants to call this a better looking hi-point for some reason
The pistol version of Big Head Mode
@@acoolerhandle Cursed
There's a Fallout 4 mod that has a DEagle slide on IIRC a makarov. It's bundled in the bulldog revolver mod.
Hey, that looks alright, seems like a fun quirky-
"Tubular lock on the mainspring housing"
OH MY GOODNESS
So much fail here... All that machining and engineering to create a mad chimera. Now I don't have to like the product to see that a lot of effort and skill went into making that gun. But my mind boggles when I see they then put what looks like a bargain basement extremely cheap and nasty tubular lock in the but of the pistol grip. What were they thinking? I mean they have to have put some thought into the aesthetics of the gun. They put a useless beaver tail on it just to make it look more like a 1911, and then they thought it was a great idea to install a chromed tubular lock that looks like it was ripped from an office desk drawer on it?
For the moment let's just ignore that the idea of putting a lock on a gun is something very few people think is a good idea in the first place. How'd that go? OK, so it's hard to imagine, but just bear with it for a few seconds. Now imagine you are sitting in a meeting discussing the safety features of the gun and are talking about the lock. Now remember that you are trying to design a premium gun that will sell at a premium price to a select few who has the money and are interested in getting a gun with the grip and trigger action of a 1911 and the slide and hopefully reliability of a Glock. Now wouldn't it have made sense to use a lock that doesn't scream "office supplies"?
I was also confused about how I felt about this pistol until he got to the tubular lock, that cemented it into the yuck category.
I mean, it might be the only safety that can kind of make sure that if a kid just randomly picks it up, it cannot shoot the gun. If you have that locked... but then... you can just lock it... somewhere else... like a safe... and still need a key... Yeaaah... i rest my case, it looks horrible and is practicaly useless.
"Alchemy Arms Spectre" sounds like a gun from a fictional universe that has both magic and modern firearms.
Arcanum?
that's a great idea for a video game
A handgun for the Elric brothers. 😉
Mechanically weak, but no spellcasting failure chance and high enchanting compatibility.
Whatever Ian said in the start of the video made my furniture start floating
Really? I’ve got a weird half goat man in the corner
My dog started standing on 2 legs and reciting backwards bible passages
I'm still trying to figure out what he said
@@bluecaptainIT I think it’s “Specta. Well we can’t all be geniuses can we?” In the worst accent I’ve ever heard.
Really? I just had a few thousand sheep teleport in my vicinity. They're flying around, too. Interesting stuff.
Ah, the old adage: "How do you turn a billionaire into a millionaire? Ask him to develop a new firearm."
Or get him into motorsports
Or pro wrestling in the 21st century
Or farming
Or the airline business...
@@trooperdgb9722 Don't say that man I'm only just getting my pilot's licence :'v
(it's true tho)
Sorcery Arms: Wraith (a SCAR and derringer hybrid no one needs but everyone deserves)
I'll help you design your next gun. The Sorcery Arms: Wizard. It's design is a secret, but it will make your money disappear.
Something like this abomination
ruclips.net/video/CI7XLFN-hD4/видео.html
@@mistakenotou7681 They should call that gun Frankenstein because it is the creation of a mad man.
@@LightningNC I would totally not be surprised if Serbu hadn't already done it, if only for the LOLZ.
@@geodkyt Actually he sort of did, the BFG-50 being a single shot anmat
We bought one of these over the counter back in the day. As I recall, it was ok with reliability, but we never really shook it down crazy hard to find out.
What killed it for us was it was very uncomfortable at the back of the frame, working the safety. This is because it was a huge gun for only 10+1.
I also recall the slide serrations sucked rocks. Not really useable. And we worried about mags, the gun lock failing, and overall support. So it was dumped.
Didn’t know how rare it was. Hell! That example might have been ours!!!
Regards,
Marky
"Alchemy Arms", "Spectre"
Sounds good, doesn't look like it.
I was waiting for someone to comment on how plain that thing looked.
Still looks better than a stock Glock.
It's vice versa imo
@@saurelius5217 debatable
Don't insult the gun of Casper the friendly Ghost
Someone get the LockPickingLawyer on the line, he can finally combine his love of locks and guns in one convenient package.
I bet he can open that safety lock in 30 seconds.
was it a G lock?
This gun could be described as a combination Glock. 😎
@@tuongtran4862, or less.
Thought LPL as soon as I heard "tubular lock". ;)
This thing looks like a generic starter pistol in a video game
A gun that was designed to NOT infringe on any copyright whatsoever
With all those lambda symbols you'd think its from Half Life.
Looks like a gun custom made special police unit and used in a viral outbreak caused by a multinational pharmaceutical corporation when they try to create a living weapon.
@@Joshua_N-A ooh I know that one, your talking about Super Mario Bros...
@@Joshua_N-A Sounds like Knack 2
You're a very hard working man, and we all appreciate the amount of time and effort you put into this channel (and others)
He has other channels?
@@kgkbuugj InRange TV would be the main one, ruclips.net/user/InrangeTvShow
There may be others, but there is a the occasional crossover as well, for example I seem to remember something with The_Chieftain.
Tubular lock built into the firearm itself?
Paging LockPickingLawyer and BosnianBill
HiPoint: “The Spectre is a good start but the slide isn’t big enough”
*Referring to only the looks, not the action
@@edgarburlyman738 Your physics are way off.
Lighter material has less mass for its volume, I believe. Since mass is practically equivalent to inertia, and slide inertia is what keeps the action closed on blowback action, the weight is critical. Lighter material simply means it's larger for it's weight.
@@edgarburlyman738 Hi-Point slides are heavy _because_ they're blowback. The mass is what resists the pressure long enough for the pressure to drop to safe levels. The (rare) centerfire blowbacks you see are all _delayed_ blowbacks, using rollers or something to slow the lightweight slide.
Hi-Points are actually kind of genius. The creator, in Detroit, said "Hey, there's all this die-casting equipment around here for cars, I bet I could design a gun that'd be really cheap to make with it." And he did. Fixed barrel, molded plastic lower, die cast slide, a couple springs, a trigger, and a mag. Dead simple, very cheap, very reliable, very tough, surprisingly accurate...and annoyingly top-heavy.
Logo almost looked like Lambda for HalfLife.
There are three "1"s in "1911."
Half-Life 3 confirmed
Glock1911 3 confirmed
MUST BE A PRODUCT OF PEACE BUT UNFORTUNATELY PEACE WAS NEVER AN OPTION BETWEEN TWO FANBASE
If you want peace prepare for war, or so I have been told.
Bruh why are you yelling
@@WeencieRants sori caps lock bruh
@Waltzin' Matilda glock vs 1911 thing
@Waltzin' Matilda That's right, it won TWO WORLD WARS with it's 45 SOTPPING POWAH
Having worked as a machinist primarily in aerospace for 25-plus years, the comparison between the engineering disciplines you spoke about is absolutely true. Jet engines/airframes have to function in a much more controlled environment/use-case than firearms do.
“Are you a Glock or a 1911 guy?”
Me: “yes”
I think you accidentally called yourself a glock and m1911 instead of calling This gun that lol
This is the equivalent of engineering a dog/cat hybrid and expecting the fans to be interested
It's like mixing Toyota with Alfa Romeo, you're hoping for a car that looks like an Alfa and is reliable like a Toyota. But sadly often you end up with a Toyota looking car and randomly catches fire.
@@JCGver They tried that with Nissan. It was the Alfa Romeo Arna and it had Japanese styling with Italian mechanics.
It made for a crazy 😝 cat 🐈 dog 🐩 cartoon, so...great minds and all.....😂🤣😂🤣
@@ronaldlollis8895 One fine day with a woof and a purr, a baby was born and cause a little stir. No blue buzzard, no three eyed frog. It's a canine-feline, little catdog...
Ed...ward?
" Shppeectuuur "
I’m not going to lie, it doesn’t look that bad.
I honestly wouldn't mind seeing how it shoots.
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Likewise ...
In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing it, with a Lone Wolf Slide, plus one of their threaded barrels, and dust cap; a rectangular, Osprey, suppressor; and Trijicon Tough & Bright night sights, plus one of theirs RMR sights, as well.
In fact, I wonder if extending the whole thing to 8", would add anything extra to that gun, if the company really wanted to go out on limb with, as a commentator named it, the 'Glockteen - Eleven" ...
Looks like something straight out of MGSV
Ah yeah i see what you mean. All those guns were quite strange.
While there probably was a reason behind fictional guns, they felt especially strange after seeing and using actual weapons in every other game, hearing legit gun enthusiast talk between characters about real firearms (such as the amazing conversations between Snake and Sigint), reading about them in their menu descriptions, etc. But hey, I guess made-up guns fit the whole big ass ruse vibe of MGSV lol
Strange it reminds me of Kendo customs from Resident Evil series.
The old Police dept that we had here got one for T&E. A couple of guys had NDs with their Glocks. So the Township supervisors put in a manual safety rule. They went with the S&W MP. Less than a year later the Chief, Lt, and Sgt were all brought up on Federal drug charges and the dept folded. I wonder what happened to it
Where was this at?
@@randoliof south west PA south of Pittsburgh
This is a perfect example of why you can't please everyone
When form supersedes function
To many cooks in the kitchen
Just saying
Too many cooks will spoil the broth.
I wonder if the design can be simplified and made appealing...
Lock Picking Lawyer: watch me get into this with a starburst wrapper
I met Bill in the early 2000’s. I’ve had a couple of his pistols, one made to my specs (combat sights, lighter trigger spring and finish). Interchangeable 45 ACP and 40 SW, both work well. Very few issues, ramp polishing mainly. It’s pretty accurate too. Bill’s intent was to get a military contract which didn’t work out. My only regret was not buying the 10mm upper and magazines.
It’s cursed as all hell but I still want one
That’s not a cursed gun at all you donut 😂🤣
A very promising concept. It's a real pitty it wasn't developed further.
@@krockpotbroccoli65 yes it is would like it to look more 1911 like though
I like the idea of a metal-frame, striker-fired pistol, and it seems like there is renewed interest in the concept recently, with the Hudson H9, the Walther Q5 SF and Q4 SF, and the SIG-Sauer P320 AXG Scorpion. Hudson didn’t make it, but that seems like it was due to quality control issues more than lack of interest.
@@krockpotbroccoli65 Bro you need to calm down, its just a gun. There's nothing inherently more monstrous, horrible, or goofy about this gun than any other, except that lock.
Tbh it is, a lot of ppl dont like glocks still bc of the polymer frame. Perhaps a market for them, ppl who like unique arms, & maybe more
@@kaylt.7864why don't people like polymer?
I remember when these were introduced. I was right out of high school working at a gunshop not far from where these were being manufactured. A few were consigned and a few local Seattle area shops had ONE in stock, as a reference, just to get publicity, but NONE ever sold. People looked at them like a train wreck. Remember this was 1995 when 1911 and HK USP ruled.
These were well made, featured a nice linear 1911 style 5-7 pound trigger, but a failure. It's great they made it to production, but it never caught on with the public or law enforcement community.
Thank you for the video. Brings back memories
I was blessed growing up in such a innovative area. Seattle is home to Detonics, Rainier Arms, AeroPrecisionusa.com, Zev, Mega, Oly Arms, AeroTec, Fortis, and many more. It was great having the opportunity to work for these companies and meet some of the people behind these brands
Dang, this info is really interesting! Love this channel
Didn’t Ian have a background in aero engineering until he realised he didn’t like it?
This gun needs to appear in films and video games. it could be an ideal signature weapon for some characters.
a good companion rifle would be an ARAK-21 in 7.62x39mm
Black Lagoon...
Always seen pictures of it, never knew what it was! nice being this early on a video
We need a cross-over video with the @LockPickingLawyer. Those tubular locks will not stop a curious teenager.
The idea was to stop curious *children.* Like, toddlers, pre-schoolers, and kindergarteners. The funny thing is that you can do that pretty well by just not loading the gun, as any kid who has the intelligence and problem-solving abilities to load a firearm is smart enough to be taught gun safety. The only thing those locks would have accomplished if anyone ever actually used them would be to make some poor bastard's last words "Shit, where's the key?"
That looks more like all the bad features of a 1911 combined with the bad features of a glock.
Its a glock with 1911 ergos
@@brightpri6692what if it was a 1911 with Glock ergos?
This is the handgun every kid draws in their note book during elementary school.
Lot 457 in the December 2019 Premier Firearms Auction is one which should definitely be looked at. One of the first forty contract 1911s produced at Colt. There is also a couple of pre-production Union Switch & Signal 1911s.
Interesting. I think my path may have crossed with them on one or two occasions back around 2002-2003. My college class took some courses in a building they were doing R&D work out of in south Auburn. It's also interesting that you posted this as I am contemplating making a novel pistol design myself right now. It's an ambitious project and I can't afford to fail. So, stuff to think about.
The irony is if that were a double stack 9mm released today, it probably would have sold a lot better.
and they won't be able to sell it in their own state. WA state has a ban on mags over 10 rounds..
Specter: Has Lambda symbols printed on it.
Gordon Freeman: *Happy grin*
Had one of these, sent it back to get it updated and never saw it again...It was a good gun, very tight, and shot well....miss it.
As an Aerospace Engineer who thoroughly enjoys Firearms, I really liked this spot on examination of the underlying engineering.
"To combine the best features of the 1911 and the Glock.."
Crap trigger-pull.
Frame isn't polymer.
....what was the point again?
Yeah, saved one of the *worst* features of the 1911 (the grip safety, although a fixed beavertail wouldn't be a *bad* idea, especially a slightly more moderate one), and took one of the finest triggers and mated it to a striker system that has an even worse trigger pull than a Glock.
It's like you combined the Swedish Bikini Team and Victoria's Secret and ended up with Quasimodo in a thong...
Yeah, this should have been a good trigger on a polymer frame.
The frame not being polymer isn't really an issue, as it does shoot better with the added mass. Many companies are going back to steel framed options for a reason.
The issue is it is a steel frame, pretending to be a polymer, and just looking ugly and uncomfortable. Seriously, why didn't he just put a 1911/2011 frame on the damn thing with customizable grips.
You guys nailed it. When I heard Glock/1911 ,I thought a Glock with a really first rate trigger. If they really did it right it would have a single stack nice thin ergonomic grip like a 1911 but no grip safety. Use as many off the shelf Glock parts. No extra dodads. They managed to get the worst parts of both guns.
"Wait, you said BEST features? I misheard you. I thought we were making this as a prank."
Since the gun is a .45 wouldn't it need a Glock 21 slide?
I expect so. I've never had the chance to examine the rear end of G21 and G23 slides or frames side-by-side, but I suspect that the part in question needs to be located slightly differently in .45ACP than in .40S&W.
@@MikeDCWeld I can check it out with my gen 4's when I get home although the Spectre would be based around a gen 2 or 3.
@@MikeDCWeld Just for the heck of it I tired a 19 slide on a 21 frame and it stops about the same place as in the video. I'm pretty sure a gen 1, 2, or 3 Glock upper would fit and function on this frame. Though the Spectre uses different mags so maybe the feed ramp on the barrel could be different or the breech face where it pushes a round out of the magazine. But a Glock 19/23 upper would never work on it.
7:51 As far as a titanium slide is concerned, you could maybe achieve similar delay to a steel slide by redesigning the short-recoil system so that the barrel and slide travel backwards together for a longer distance, but that seems like it would take a lot of redesign for other components, especially the frame, and you might see accuracy and reliability suffer as a result. It would also lead to some issues (assuming that the barrel is steel) with the area of the slide where it contacts the barrel at the front of the ejection port would wear out a lot more quickly. surface hardness is generally not titanium's strong suit. You would have to either carbidize that region or insert a steel bearing surface, which both add cost. Also, not to be pedantic, but titanium alloys tend to be weaker than high-strength steels in an absolute sense, using the typical convention of load/area to define stress, but they do usually have higher strength to mass ratios. I can't think of much benefit to a titanium slide other than reduced overall weight, but that would be much better achieved by using a polymer frame. I'd expect higher felt recoil from the lower mass, and probably a much higher unit cost since titanium alloys are such a pain to machine.
Yes, I learned something today. Thank you once again for sharing your encyclopedic and insightful knowledge!
Crazy that Hudson would try and do this again and yield the same outcome. The whole history repeats itself thing strikes once more.
Nah, the Hudson was much better executed.
The only part of the Hudson that feels weird is the trigger because it's hinged at the bottom, and that's just "weird" not bad. Otherwise, grip feels good, trigger *pull* is good, muzzle doesn't flip much, etc.
Where Hudson screwed up was announcing the aluminum frame before their steel frames were selling enough to pay the bills. I was going to buy a Hudson but decided to wait until the aluminum frame was out because I don't want a third all steel pistol.
Found the Hudson H9 comment that I came looking for!
The Hudson had the low bore axis going for it, too. It was a good idea, poorly executed. This was a bad idea, poorly executed.
I imagine the titanium-slide version would've had weighted steel inserts on the inside of the slide (most likely as part of the breech assembly) to add mass for cycling. I'm almost positive that it was offered for durability and corrosion-resistance reasons, rather than for the lighter weight. Plus it's just the single most tactical gun ever.
"Guys, come check out my titanium-and-polymer Glockteen11!"
Love the small safe lock on the bottom of the mag well!
As a former aerospace engineer, I can say that Ian's comment regarding "an engineer assumes that the components interacting with your thing are going to be as well made as your thing" is totally spot on but not for the reason but not for the reason he insinuates.
Yes, manufacturing practice within the aerospace industry requires extremely high quality for *some* parts. It seemed to me at the time that laziness and an overreliance on high quality manufacturing (i.e. holding unnecessarily tight tolerances) has perpetuated this myth.
Fudds everywhere: confused screaming.
The title puts words in a sentence that I never want to see in a sentence again.😤
@Hexxer Gaming I dunno if you're sarcastic or not, it's just the HERESY of combining the ol' reliable 1911 with the plastic gun.
And no, I am not actually mad. HERESY!!! was just my first thought when reading the title.
What *should* happen when a Glock and a 1911 love each other very much is a polymer frame and double stack magazine under a 1911 slide. That'd actually be an improvement.
I suppose that a Glock style barrel may also be an improvement in terms of machining (less things to cut).
But this? 🤮
I like your take on the aerospace/firearm engineering an ammunition variation.
I could see the use of a titanium slide that's weighted to the proper mass with lead or tungsten inserts in the nose, probably in the 'corners' up above the barrel.
One more in a long line of "Wouldn't it be cool ?" ideas that never floated, but ends up having a "second chance" on the quirky gun collector market.
This looks like a rejected gun model from Half-Life.
Later on that same table:
"This is the Lockpicking Lawyer, and I've got something a little different for you this time. At first glance, this looks more like a Glock than a lock, but in fact it's equal parts both..."
I honestly love this design! Which is why I got the hudson H9 when it came out. Sadly Hudson went under and I am hopeful a company comes along and gives the H9 a reboot!!!
Ian, if you ever get a chance, a winchester industrial shotgun would be an interesting topic!
I remember hearing about those. That would be interesting. Especially doing a range shoot!
Gotta say, thats the coolest gun name ive ever heard.
As much as I love the videos, the barely suppressed smile post Connery voice was my favourite part this time.
Oh Ian, you’re 1 of my favourite RUclipsrs, your audience loves you both for your content & for who you are as a person but I just don’t know if I can aver forgive you for that Sean Connery impression! LOL! 😄
I feel like the HK45 is a much better execution of this same idea.
At least the lock is not a crappy wafer lock, but tubular pin tumbler locks (with some exceptions) are nowadays easily opened with impressioning tools (see e.g. @LockPickingLawyer videos).
Not if you use springs of varying strength.
6 seconds in and im already smashing that like :D. Ian your doing gods work!
I love this kind of more recent 90s and 00s forgotten weapons
This thing is giving me Half Life vibes.
i swear that's what the security at black mesa used
"Catch me later - I'll buy you a beer."
Yeah, me too.... Sort of: I rather have a facecrab than a pic of this unholy contraption in front of my face!
definantly the lambda logos
It's the Lambda letter and the fact that the G17 was the standard-res model for the pistol
Actually steel is stronger than titanium. The thing with titanium is that its very light for its strength and very resistant to erosion. Also its heat resistant and doesnt conduct electicity.
Edit: the electricity thing is wrong also its only the modulus of elasticity that´s higher with steel.
As someone who spent three years studying metallurgy. No.
@@ben501st I study mechatronics and this what i remembered from my metallurgy course, i might be wrong. Pls correct me^^
Very informative. Cheers
@IanMcCallum I'd be honestly fascinated to see what features you personally would put into your own pistol design - and if there are any designs which come close to perfection (in your opinion).
It's almost 2021. Based on your skillset & remarkable knowledge of weapon design history, I reckon that you could come up with a truly advanced 21st century weapon.
(Though I'm still waiting to see if caseless ammunition could ever become a thing.)
The Spectre, a gun for the Glock and 1911 fan that fills non of the holes.
Its a good thing the industry learned its lesson from this and one would ever try to make an unholy amalgamation of 1911 and Glock .........
I love this channel so much but the Connery impression just bumped it up a notch in my book, it just cements my assumption that Ian would be a really cool guy to hang with.
That aerospace machining precision really paid dividends in the fit and blend of that grip safety.
The safety lock is the only part of this I find really sacrilegious.
It seems interesting conceptually but it appears he took the Glock about 30 years back from its development cycle 🤔
4:46 If the LockPickingLawyer has taught me anything, it's that tubular cores can be very hit or miss. It would be really interesting to watch him pick into this gun.
That's pretty badass. Some cool innovations.
The first time I was this early I was the Lebel in smokeless powder development.
Woah I didn't know somebody was making real cursed guns for Brandon herrara 😂
I think there's a brilliant design in that.
I think the grip isn't one of them, but that little notch, that feedback to say 'the trigger is right behind this mark', is brilliant. It's simple, it's minor, it's just a bit of material, but the information it can give a shooter, that is hard to put a value on.
Plus, dare I say it, might even help in stressful situations, under the clock. A simple touch and you just 'know'.
This is a nice looking piece. I want more firearms with this style
That thing looks extremely cursed
These are XS big dot sights, not Heinie sights.
They might even be the first iteration of XS, Ashley Express Sights.
Love how you touched on the ammunition compatibility with firearms manufacturing, not what a lot of people think about. But if you're cool, well engineered and designed firearm doesn't cycle nearly 100% of ammunition nearly 100% of the time the good luck at trying to sale it for dirt cheap or even at all.
There is a subset of the aerospace industry that would be familiar with rugged, rough-tolerance engineering - the designers of STOL and bush planes would have similar considerations. It is a niche segment these days, but the An-2, and the DeHavilland Canada STOL planes (Beaver, Otter, Caribou, Buffalo, etc.) did have to be sturdy and reliable enough to operate in the remote north with 1950's engineering while allowing for some degree of field-expedient repair in the taiga or tundra.
Funnily enough it even looks like the kind of gun that generic goons working for hank Scorpio would use
Made this Matv2099 joke but apparently someone else did too, mine was like 20minutes after the video was uploaded, but has less likes so i changed this comment
That was a pretty good Connery impression!
reminds me of the Korth. I think the integrated lock is a neat idea