Republic of Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) | A "Country" that Disappeared?
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Nagorno-Karabakh, a region located in the South Caucasus at the center of a decades-long conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
Until recently, it was also home to an unrecognized nation: the Republic of Artsakh.
Having emerged following dissolution of the Soviet Union, the First Nagorno-Karabakh War (1988-1994) saw the predominantly Armenian region - internationally recognized as a part of Azerbaijan - gain de facto independence in the mid-1990s. As that name sort of implies, this wouldn't be the last war. And, in 2020, thing did not go well for Armenia. Following a ground offensive along the line of contact, Azerbaijani forces managed to capture much of southern Nagorno-Karabakh, including Shusha (Shushi), the second-largest city in the region.
In wake of the Second Nagorno-Karabakh War, Armenia lost 75% of the territory it had controlled before the war, leaving just the narrow Lachin Corridor as its only link with Artsakh.
This too was seized by Azerbaijan in 2022 and, less than a year later, Baku would launch a military offensive against the breakaway republic itself. After just one day of fighting, a ceasefire was agreed to and it soon became known the beleaguered Republic of Artsakh would cease to exist on January 1st, 2024.
In response to this dramatic turn of events, over 100,000 people fled Nagorno-Karabakh, fearing Azerbaijani rule.
This all begs the question: what is the story behind Nagorno-Karabakh?
#history #armenia #artsakh #nagornoka #azerbaijan #geography #ghostcountries
CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
03:08 A Land Between the Rivers
04:08 Why is it called Nagorno-Karabakh?
04:59 Russian Conquest + Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic
07:46 Shushi Massacre
09:27 Soviet Rule + Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast
11:20 Perestroika, Nationalism, and the Karabakh Movement
13:17 Sumgait Pogrom
17:08 Dissolution of the Soviet Union + Operation Ring
19:21 First Nagorno-Karabakh War
21:02 Khojaly Massacre
22:26 The Republic of Artsakh
26:57 Second Nagorno-Karabakh War
29:36 The Turkish Connection
32:04 Lachin Corridor + Blockade of Nagorno-Karabakh
33:46 2023 Azerbaijani Offensive
35:27 What's Next?
Corrections:
30:24 I meant Ankara, not Istanbul
Also, in the maps depicting the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast, I mistakenly included a portion of the former Shaumyan District. This later was claimed by the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh, but nonetheless was not a part of the original NKAO and remained under Azerbaijani control from 1992.
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Corrections: 30:24 - I meant Ankara, not Istanbul.
Also, in the maps depicting the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast, I mistakenly included a portion of the former Shaumyan District. This later was claimed by the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh, but nonetheless was not a part of the original NKAO and remained under Azerbaijani control from 1992.
Ok
You are biased
@@ahmedelkhwaga2751how
The azeri President literally said azeris should colonize parts of the actual Armenia, including its capital. His ambition goes way beyond Karabakh. Azerbaijan also has a consistent policy of erasing armenian history in the western sections of Azerbaijan. He also called Armenia "western Azerbaijan".
The man just wants to finish what the turks started
İLHAM ELİYEV BÖYÜK İNSAN VE AGILLI MÜDRİK İNSANDIR ❤
@@ibrahimNesirli-wf3df Brainwashed
@@ibrahimNesirli-wf3dfnah he is as bad as Adolf hitler
@@ibrahimNesirli-wf3dfhe's a Nazi
Whay USA,EU did?😢😠
Why let Azerbaijan to win
Almost ironically, this recollection of the conflicts that happened between Azerbaijan and Armenia in the 1990’s, makes me happy that the conflict between my country, Ukraine, and Russia is less about the ethnicity in character.
Hasn’t Putin been constantly bragging how Ukraine is an artificial state and that Ukrainian/Ruthenian people’s don’t exist ever since this “special military operation” started?
Or really? Crimea belongs to Crimean tatars
@@eyeofusers123 I mean, it belongs to them too. Similarly, how it belongs to any other Ukrainian citizen, regardless of their origin or creed :)
@@D.S.handle now apply same logic to Karabakh and dont talk shit anymore
@@eyeofusers123 where was I talking shit? Could you demonstrate the logic for me please.
Not bad. There're just several errors that I've couldn't unnotice:
• NKAO map that you showing throughout the video is incorrect, as it includes part of ex-Shaumyan district that wasn't part of NKAO, it was only claimed by NKR later on due to Armenian population living in part of it.
• While telling about Sumgait pogroms you've missed that it was concluded largely by displaced ethnic-Azerbaijanis from Kapan district of Armenian SSR. The Kapan events took place at the end of 1987 to mid January 1988.
• Hulusi Akar wasn't the only one who used the term "Two states, one nation" to characterise AZ-TR relationships, as the slogan was promoted already for several decades by both countries leaders.
Overall, not a bad video. I wish I could say better words, but I'm just tired of this whole conflict.
Hey, thanks for the feedback. I actually saw another comment mentioning the former Shaumyan District and that is definitely a mistake I made; so, I take fully responsibility here. I always strive to be as accurate as possible and can't believe I missed that in editing.
I wish RUclips still had something like annotations, but I added that as a correction in the video's description and pinned a comment as well.
Please don't muddy the water, by making excuses about Sumgait Pogrom.
Both Armenia could've had Artsakh AND Azerbaijan could've had rest of NKB region after soviet break up, with corresponding minority rights protected. But this ethnic bad blood and history goes back far, and we dont live in a sane world.
Correct. Armenians could have had autonomy, but they chose not too
I’m assuming the Armenian government would have agreed to peaceful hand over the territories with the guarantee for the right of Armenians living there. The azeris were the ones who rejected it. They would rather invade and remove the Armenians there by force.
I know others have said it, but this video is a big step up from your previous ones in pretty much every way!!!
Your latest video was well worth the wait. The presentation of information and top notch graphics is one of the reasons this is my favorite channel
Glad you liked it! Definitely put a lot work into the video and, as long as it performs, I honestly wouldn't mind long-form (20+ minute) content from time to time going forward.
as an Azerbaijani, I can say this is the most specific information about our conflict that I've ever seen in my life. Amazing work! We Caucasus, got many pains in the history, many people died by Turks, Russians, Persians, Azeris and Armenians. But now, everything is chill yet, I wish we don't have no more conflict in the future. I want Caucasus be better place.
You finally posted A new video. This video is really high quality.🎉
Thank you so much Jiayi; yeah, this really turned into a much bigger project than I first anticipated, but hopefully it's worth it and going forward we're going to work hard to keep a more regular schedule!
This was a huge step up from your already great vids! 🎉
Very informative video!
Great comprehensive video!!!!!🎉 Congratulations 🍾
Thank you so much!
Amazing video 🍻
Thank you so much for making this video ❤
No problem, glad you came across the video!
tragic. not only that, but the people there lost their ancestral homeland too and were all forced to leave. now Azerbaijan proceeds to destroy every trace of Armenian heritage.
They were not forced to leave. They were allowed to dwell there by the Azerbaijani government but they still left. Just don't overmake yourself.
@@zhuangchuang31 lol that is a ridiculous statement to make, and you know it. or you are just blindly believing the words of a genocidal dictator who wants to see Armenia wiped from the map entirely.
But you tried to establisht a breakaway republic in Azerbaijan's territory and Azerbaijan responded. This is all that happened there, nothing to to worry as much. So remember Artkash the next time you attempt to do the same shit. Bye.
@@zhuangchuang31 first of all your Swästikā pfp explains you perfectly as a person, secondly quit your bullshit. Artsakh DEMOCRATICALLY voted for independence and scored higher than Azerbaijan on the freedom index. And right now as we speak Azerbaijan is demolishing the government buildings in Artsakh which clearly shows Azerbaijan had zero interest in keeping an autonomous republic there.
Armenians who fled Artsakh at gun point did the right choice to avoid being hostages of a human zoo for the mentally twisted people running Azerbaijan and their supporters.
And quit saying ‘you’ i’m not an Armenian myself. The outside world knows about Azerbaijan’s hypocricy and lies. You fool nobody.
@@Nickel_Eye "i’m not an Armenian myself" - Oh please, you so are.
Thank you so much for spitting out the truth ❤❤
Well that was intense, extremely comprehensive and well done. Not nearly as long as it could’ve been!
Thanks Tina; yeah, there’s a lot more we could’ve included, but the video was already pushing 40 minutes! 😅 Still, I feel it’s a pretty good overview and long-format videos like this definitely allow us more room to explore a topic. So, I’m hoping to do more going forward.
You have a new subscriber ! The best video ive seen explaining the matter ,its quite freightning seeing a country cease to exist under a military loss, thats very very rare
Oh, thank you so much! Yeah, it really is kind of crazy looking back at what occurred in Nagorno-Karabakh.
Great video!
Really good video, I hope you receive more recognition!
It was suprising to see individual US states weigh in on the issue. Is that commonplace?
Thank you so much! I actually can't think of another issue exactly like the recognition of Artsakh, but I do know a few US cities have affirmed their support for Tibet; Washington, Wisconsin, Illinois, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, and Pennsylvania have also recognized the Holodomor in Ukraine as a genocide. And, there was a similar push for recognition of the Armenian genocide with Mississippi becoming the the 50th and final state to formally recognize the Armenian genocide in 2022.
So, it does happen on certain issues.
Yes. Individual states and sometimes even town councils insert themselves into global issues. Usually it is for Israel, Palestine, Armenia, Tibet, or the Republic of China.
True!
Great video 👍👍👍 Hope more and more people will watch this and get interested in this matter; Feel like Palestine and Israel war is in the spotlight too much and less people talk about this matter 😢
Thank you Mimi and yeah, the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict really was pretty much just completely overlooked in the international media’s coverage. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot going on…but still.
30:24 Istanbul?? İ think you meant Ankara.
Also as a Turk myself i have never heard about the "Western Azerbaijan" concept like i am really curious where you got that from. Nevertheless good video❤
Hey, thanks for pointing that out! I really have no idea how that slipped past me during editing, but added a correction in the description + a pinned comment. Yeah, Western Azerbaijan ties into the "Whole Azerbaijan" concept and I personally thought it was pretty interesting as well. I might do a video sometime that explores the concept more fully, since it also ties into separatism over in a part of Iran (i.e. Southern Azerbaijan).
Western Azerbaijan is what azerbaijanis refer to all of armenia as being its historical western land . Even though, it's only Azerbaijan who sees this
no one calls it that. however, it is true that yerevan was azeri in the 18th century and up until 1800s @@manotenkerian
@letsplaywithmegacyborg3098 your president does. Remember, Azerbaijan used to be apart of Iran
actually, many of the persian shahs were azeri. and tabriz used to be azeri@@manotenkerian
As an Azerbaijani, this is the most objective and unbiased video about the conflict I have ever seen.
This is not unbiased. He said "Azerbaijan blocked Lachin corridor and created a humanitarian crisis in Karabakh" but he didn't mention that Azerbaijan also offered Aghdam road for the transportation of all the necessary goods to Armenians
liberate armenia
Great channel, keep it up.
Thanks, have no plans on quitting!
One day justice will face those criminals who did ethnic cleansing
One day
They all left willingly
I don't really care for the conflict In general but the amount of propaganda coming out about an imaginary genocide is insane and annoying.
They all left pretty willingly, as they don't fancy being under Azerbaijani surveillance.
Reinflaming tensions while Armenia is under difficult times won't do you guys any favors.
@@petergriffin9931 honestly as dire as the situation is, the fake narratives are absolutely disgusting. You'd think they'd be more careful considering the same people spent years trying to bring awareness to a real genocide (in 1915).
From both sides.
Fascinating!😯
You seem to have misunderstood the legal basis of the NKAO's independence, that being the Soviet Law on Secession from April 1990, which explicitly allowed autonomous regions (such as the NKAO) to "decide independently the question of remaining within the USSR or within the seceding Union republic, and also to raise the question of their own state-legal status".
He literally explained in the video why that law was not followed through. The decision was to be made jointly with the republic which the region belonged to and not unilaterally. No autonomous oblast could secede unless the Supreme Council of said republic ratified the secession.
@@ggrad2651 Nope. Read the law before trying to lecture people online. ;)
@@alenlivai I know more about that law than your meager mind could ever grasp.
Nice video.
thank you for being unbiased, giving voice to the complaints of both sides.
Great video, Armenian history is so rich, It’s unfortunate that the history of artsakh hasn’t been popularized until now
Thanks man; I'm actually thinking of revisiting the region soon-ish to cover Nakhchivan!
@@GhostCountriesJust for you,the word Nakhichevan is in Armenian and literally means "place of descent"
@@petomargaryan6181 just like nagorno-karabagh is turkic
@@think9747 it is actually Daglikh Karabakh (nagorno is russian) and means mountanious karabagh. And means nothing bcuz Word Balkan is Turkic
@@lacomplation no karabagh is turkic and nagorno is russian its name has nothing to do with armenians
Well done Ghost, long form suits you!
Glad you think so! I'm definitely open to doing long-format videos like this (20+ minutes) from time to time on the channel and it's honestly nice being able to delve more deeply into a subject.
Artsakh is armenia 🇦🇲♥️
44 day
Nuh uh
YES 🇦🇲@@Hesen31
@@khaledhammood5879 You say Armenia didn't recognise Artsakh yet they supported supposed "terrorist groups" in that land, interesting.
I wouldn’t like to be in Armenia’s position 😂. If they go with Iran, then the west won’t be ok, if they go with the west, Iran wouldn’t be ok. They stay alone, they have Turkey and Azerbaijan.
I guess it’s time to invent teleportation
They should go to space at this point because its safer there
It wasn't even a country.. that enclave was internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan 🇦🇿...
Qarabağ Azərbaycandır!
Article 70 never applied because NKAO was not a republic, it was merely an oblast, and as such it didn't have the right to secede.
Your commentary reminds me of real life lore.
Very informative and almost unbiased. Congratulations.
As an ethnic Azerbaijani from Iran where my city is just 100 KM from the conflict area, my heart is with my Azerbaijani brethren and I am happy and congratulate them for this victory and the resolution of separatism, but nevertheless I feel sorry for all the deaths in both sides. I wish the Armenian residents would have stayed there and lived in their homelands without the need for separatism. I hope now that the main conflict is over, both countries move towards peace with each other.
🇦🇿🤘💪🇹🇷
Don't forget about Azerbaijanis that were deported from Zangezur, while Armenians were able to stay in Karabakh
It's biased, he only covers the Armenian side mostly. Like “Azerbaijani killed and massacred Armenians all the time, poor Armenians lived there a thousands of years, etc” So don’t lie, shame you call yourself Azerbaijani that I doubt.
Слава Илхаму Алиеву💪🇦🇿
یالانچینین آغزینا سیچیم😏
31:47 i hope this makes everyone understand how trustworthy russians are, the caucasus must unite against russia
Russia is the cause of most of the worlds problems
Your comment shows you don't pay attention to anything in the video unless it's against Russia. The Caucasus will only unite to laugh you out.
@@Masquerade456 nah, he's right
as an american i hope the best for the armenian people and that we support them fully in the future
What is the reason ?
No, America doesn't.
Kara doesn’t mean black, its “big” in this context
RIP Artsakh 1992/93-2024
It's called Nagorno-Karabakh. Not Artsakh.
@@BraveSonofKarabakhthe region is called Nagorno Karabakh the dissolved state is called artsakh
@@BraveSonofKarabakhwhy call it by a Russian name unless you're a foreigner there?
actually we call this region just "Qarabağ"
You didn’t talk about Turkmenchay and Gulustan agreement between qajars and russia!
Turkmenchay agreement is speculated by azeris, to made armenians a "newcomers" in region.While azerb. never mentione all historical context
Why you didn’t mention Kafan pogroms ?
The first pogrom of the Artsakh conflict was done by Azeris in Azerbaijan to Armenians, just because they were Armenians.
Before pogroms in Azerbaijan, pogroms of Azeri in Armenia had happened. Not the first time in history. @@armeniancrusader7908
@@GlisteningBins iran is my shit
@@GlisteningBins armenia is aze
Most likely because its used as a way to deflect from a greater bad
Azerbaycans advancements are pretty impressive, i hope the region will one day be able to leave the bloodshed behind and be more unified. Such a diverse place can not have multiple nationalistic forces without violence
> i hope the region will one day be able to leave the bloodshed behind and be more unified
i hope not because it is likely that if they do it will look like this or what happened with the slavs east of Elba west of Oder-Neisse line. Maybe what happened between Romania and Bulgaria post-Balkan wars,i.e. "population exchange"
@@alexandrub8786 Why Slavs between the Elbe & Oder during the middle ages, and not Germanic people east of the Oder after WW2? If the scenario is about a unified region with ethnic violence, the middle ages between Vistula & the Rhine is literally an example of the most disunified places on earth, at any point in history.
Advancement? They have a larger military budget than armenian state budget, they needed turkey, pakistan, israel and russia to get a difficult victory. Azerbaijan is quite pathetic, cowardly and one of the most criminal and disgusting regimes and societies in moder history
Baby wake up ghost country made another video
Very refreshing to see an in depth and objective take on this subject. Almost every thing I've read or watched just spins up a silly and emotional narrative.
It's either Turkish/Azeri or Armenian propaganda, the worst offenders being 1915 genocide deniers and those trying to compare the 1915 genocide to the recent flight of Armenians from Artsakh/Karabakh. The way this has been covered by many outlets is absolutely distasteful.
While the current flight of Armenians from Arshtak has had less bloodshed than the genocide it is still ethnic cleansing and it is still but one part in Azerbaijan's long term goal of getting rid of all Armenians. They even call Armenia "Western Azerbaijan".
@@ikengaspirit3063 What could have Azerbaijani done so that you wouldn't call the events "Ethnic cleansing"? Azerbaijan gave them the option of staying and becoming Azerbaijani citizens or moving out and they chose to move out. I understand their skepticism based on the history, but nevertheless it is totally different that forcing them out at gunpoint. So what else could have Azerbaijan done (with the assumption of keeping their territorial integrity)? At least they gave much better options that victorious Armenians 30 years ago where they gave just 10 hours for Azerbaijanis to gather what they can and move out or stay and die.
no one calls armenia west azerbaijan. also, no ethnic cleansing happened. literally, 30k armenians lived in azerbaijan as of 2009@@ikengaspirit3063
Azeri soldiers were literally fighting with enver pasha badges referring to the armenian genocide, etdogan referred to the 1915 genocide. The 1915 genocide started long before 1915 and its still going on
@@pierre8654 we were fighting with enver in 1918 after u guys attacked and took baku. The genocide did not happen before 1915 and it is not on going. Stop lying
To quote Peanuts, this tells me far more about the subject than I care to know.
review this content in may :)
Excellent video . I have learned a lot about karabakh today. Wishing the best for both the Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 and Armenia 🇦🇲 from USA 🇺🇸 ❤❤❤❤
Not a first cause of removal of breakaway state, there were Ichkeria and Tamil-Elam.
May be, not a last.
The only difference that population in two other cases were not really too much affected by separatist propaganda, so Chechens and Tamil were able to adapt to new reality.
00:35 that's not map of Artsakh, thats map of old NKR, Artsakh map includes all zones it controls, including majority Azerbaijani areas
İn 1918 Azeri capital is Ganja not Baku which is today second largest city in Azerbaijan
Armenians’ right to self-determination should not be underplayed. Azerbaijan wanted to keep 150,000 Armenians as hostage against their will. They deserved the right to choose who would rule them, yet the world was silent. Long Live Artsakh
Tamam o zaman Ermenistandan kovduğunuz 250.000 Azerbaycanlıyı geri alın onlar kendi kaderlerini belirlesin oylama ile ermenistandan toprak alak çok iyi fikir kovduklariniizi geri alın hadi! Sizin kaybedicekleriniz bizden daha çok o zaman :)
Lots of wrong in formation in video. In the clashes happening in Askeran, when Azerbaijanis marched towards from Aghdam, 2 Azerbaijanis were killed by Armenians, but not any Armenians were killed (unlike mentioned 50 in the video). You can't find the solid sources claiming this
Where are you getting the information about 50 Armenians dead in Askeran? There is no mention about it in "Black Garden" by Tom de Waal.
13:00
The US government supports Azerbaijan, but honestly, I support Armenia 🇦🇲
Interesting trivia also: After the Russo-Persian War, there was an influx of Germans (dubbed Caucasian-Germans) in the broader region too who founded several towns.
Interesting bit of history I will readily admit to not knowing! That does remind me though, I’ve been wanting to do a video on the Volga Germans for a while. I originally was going to center it on the Volga German Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, but maybe could do another on historic German populations outside Germany.
@@GhostCountries For Volga Germans I think the SSR is probably a good focus, albeit there as with all German populations outside of Germany I think it would be good to have at minimum also well-sourced segments on their early days & their endings (or modern status).
There's probably material for dozens of videos if you were to go through each population individually & some other youtube channels such as Germania Magna have done such videos before.
I am myself half Bohemian-German, Egerlandic specifically, so I am conscious of ways in which all of that history still plays a role to this day. While my grandparents survived the ethnic cleansing after WW2 while losing their past home, current day sentiments are mildly mixed, on the bad end there is still public apologia and glorification of ethnic violence that was conducted between 80-70 years ago within Czech right-wing circles. Internationally it's treated as either an unimportant footnote of history or identical to the bad end previously mentioned. While Bohemians were treated as too-German in Czechia, the ones who found refuge in Germany were treated as Czech foreigners much of the time. While it's a group that was treated as "part of the other side" by both countries, it ended up neither. Right now there are some partnership programs between Germany & Czechia, Germany paid wartime reparations to Czechia starting in 2003 I think, there was not a single reparation or even acknowledgement going towards Bohemian-Germans from either country in terms of making good on the past - at least that I was made aware of. It could be I was never told & never found out about stuff that was done.
I am currently in the process of actually cataloguing my own family history, including interviews with people & old photos etc. So it could end up happening that I procure farther primary and secondary sources or accounts of German-Bohemian history in general.
31:03 This is the official positin of the ruler of Azerbaijan it is more significant than just "some".
youre heavily underrated
Hey, thanks; I was kind of hoping this video would take off, but the algorithm seems to have different plans. 😅 You never know though!
Kharabakh does not mean black garden, this is misleading and wrong.
Its interesting to see which US states have an Azeri lobby vs an Armenian lobby.
"we will mostly be using Armenian names"!
Well, that shows this dude's 'position' clearly!!
That's honesty!!!
Armenian toponym in Karabagkh are original and native
@@user-ne6pw6rc6l Yeah, especially "Stepanakert" named after a Communist bandit.
The armenians are the native inhabitants of the area and deserve to not be erased. Why should an area inhabited by armenians be called by azeri names? Maybe because you want to erase armenians?
@@igorlopes7589 Shusha was founded as an Azeri-majority town, and Azeris are just as native there. Why should a town founded by Azeris and inhabited by Azeris be called by an Armenian name? That's like suggesting we should change England's name to Pictland because Picts lived there before Anglo-Saxons and should not be erased.
@@ggrad2651 Shusha was founded as a colony in Armenian majority lands, in hopes of eventually cleansing the Armenians from it. That's was it was occupied by over 80% military aged men, no natural population is over 80% military aged men.
Khojaly was an Azerbaijani-populated town of some 6,300 people in the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast of Azerbaijan SSR, also housing the region's only airport in 1992.[10] The town was subject to daily shelling and total blockade by Armenian forces during the First Nagorno-Karabakh War. Without supply of electricity, gas, or water, it was defended by the local forces consisting of about 160 lightly armed men. The Armenian forces, along with some troops of the 366th CIS regiment, launched an offensive in early 1992, forcing almost the entire Azerbaijani population of the enclave to flee, and committing "unconscionable acts of violence against civilians" as they fled.[1]
The massacre was one of the turning points during the First Nagorno-Karabakh War. The death toll given by the Azerbaijani authorities is 613 civilians, including 106 women and 63 children.[4]
You're right, however- you started in the middle. It was Azerbaijan who NKAO in blockade and Azerbaijani soldiers were shelling Armenian civilians in Stephanakart/Khankendi. They were warned that If the shelling didn't stop that armenians would invade Khojaly.
@@manotenkerianExactly.
As an Azerbaijani, I really liked the video, you deserve way more views. Just for recomendatiton, I think you could make a video about South Azerbaijan (which is under control of Iran)
Hey, thank you so much! Yeah, I’m also kind of hoping the algorithm gives the video a break soon, but we’ll see.
Someone else actually mentioned doing a video about South Azerbaijan too and, while doing research for this video, I became really interested in the “Whole Azerbaijan” concept. So, I can’t say exactly when, but I’m pretty sure we’ll cover it at some point here on the channel.
@@GhostCountrieswe azeris not only live Iran but also Georgia,Dagestan,Turkey,Iraq which called Kerkuks and all this azeris are about history of Safavids
True, but I still find it interesting just how many Azerbaijanis actually can be found inside Iran!
Wow, definitely learned a lot from this video. It's really depressing to learn about the history behind this conflict and come to think about it, nationalism is the root cause of this outrage. I've noticed that our people used to be so much more nationalistic than the Azerbaijanis before the 1st Karabakh war. The result of us winning the 1st Karabakh war mellowed us down and in contrast sparked Azerbaijani nationalism and animosity against us on overdrive. I want to believe that there won't be anymore future conflicts but with warmongering Aliyev in office, I'm not so sure.
Blaming this on Aliyev is ridiculous, Turks are clearly just like this. They've been doing this since the late 1800s.
Video is so disinformative in 30:24 narrator says Istanbul instead of Ankara. Ankara is capital and decision maker in Turkiye. Omg.
Video is not bad overall but clearly biased. In a video of 38 minutes one would expect more events to be told of.
Azerbaijan, where, relative and animal husbandry have different definitions.
37:35 So, largely new migrants and the descendants of the Azerbaijanis that moved in following the massacre at Shushi.
31:02 Why isn't Tajikistan included in the pan-Turkic world?
Because the Tajiks actually are a Persian-speaking, ethnically Iranian (or Iranic) people.
@@GhostCountriesThanks for answering, I think I saw somewhere a pan-Turkic map which also included Tajikistan or at least parts of it, I don't remember very well, that's why I asked.
No problem! It all really depends on how broad or narrow your definition of Turkic world is; because, like you pointed out, I’ve also seen some maps that include the Uyghurs, Yakuts or Sakha, Crimean Tatars, etc. We just stuck to internationally recognized countries for the map we used.
@ountries By the way, great video, love your channel, I already had plenty of information on the long Armenian-Azeri conflict but this put the pieces together in a more timeline-oriented manner. I am pro-Armenian and I also fear that Azerbaijan is just waiting for a big international event (escalation in Ukraine or the start of the Taiwan war) to move on Southern Armenia, no one would bat an eye on that just like they didn't when they took Artsakh back. I've seen plenty of Azeri politicians pointing at how Armenia stands in the way of their Turkic "family" and stuff like that. Could be just rhetoric, could be more. I feel sad for Armenia, being a Christian country I always hoped one day they would join the EU but they have far bigger problems at this point.
Hey, thanks; we actually have a poll on that going up in a few hours, but yeah, I honestly fear something like that is basically waiting to happen following the 2023 conflict. It might be limited to just southern Armenia, but you never know.
Karabakh is Azerbaijan and !
The day the israel thing happened, my youtube feed went from 60% nagorno-karabakh content to 80% israel content lol literally nobody cared about nagorno-karabakh after that i feel sad for them i hope they're doing okay wherever they went
Yeah, it really was most ignored story of 2023, which is kind of crazy when you think about everything that occurred here. Most refugees from Nagorno-Karabakh are now in Armenia, particularly Yerevan, and when you look at the numbers, it's crazy...again. Basically, you had an influx amounting to about 4% of the country's population over the course of just more than a week. The short-term reception has actually been very good, but it's definitely weighing on Armenia's economy and there is the possibility of mass homelessness if aid programs stop.
Yes, Armenians have suffered alot of hardship. It is still disorientating to me that literally no one gives a shit that Azerbaijan ethnically cleansed Nargono-Karabah just last year. Like it is funnier when then bring up official UN recognized Azerbaijan territory because Arshtak was decleared specifically to stop this ethnic cleansing which Azerbaijan still did proving they were correct.
because Armenians cry wolf about their genocide so much like how israelis cry wolf about some new holocaust even when they're incursing on other people's territory that people stop really caring after a point. NK was majority Azeri until Armenians genocided the local population in the 90s
@@siyacer You can lie all you want. Essentially the only massacre against Turks by Armenians is Khojaly, itself largely against Azerbaijani murders running from the crime scene of Shushi. Only people from ur small evil two Turk countries believe ur lies.
The video makes several claims that Azerbaijan did things in violation of the ceasefire agreement but neglects that it was Armenia who violated the agreement first:
1) Armenian armed forces were not withdrawn
2) Armenia had no intention to provide Zangezur corridorr
The Armenian genocide never ended. It started with the Hamidian massacres (1894-1897), Peaked in 1915, and has only been dormant until the fall of the Soviet Union when it could start again. The fall of Artsakh is just its most recent installment 🇦🇲
Just a couple of days ago, Pashinyan said Azerbaijan is planning a "full-scale war" with Armenia likely to create a land bridge with Nakhchivan.
@@GhostCountries why do you not comment about an outrages claim like "the genocide never ended"? To act as if armenians have been victim of some grand systematic plan to be killed is simply wrong. Celebrate while theyre on top and now that the tables have turned its another "genocide", either declare your bias or be actually neutral
This time armenians left willingly. Under current regime Azerbaijan was opressing them, but not outright killing.
@@user-xi5ej4ox5s The reasoning behind the exodus of Armenians though was threat of genocide. Azerbaijan had already calculated that fear would clear the Armenians far more efficiently than murder, as all the murders that needed to be done was already complete.
@@fishconnoisseur 10 bucks they're Turks and Azeris doing damage control for the genocidal foreign policies of their countries.
A principle of self determination entails that a nation can establish a country only once. They already have Armenia. So no, Karabakh was and always will be a part of Azerbaijan. Despite numerous efforts of all Armenians around the world to get it recognized,No nation recognized it in the last 30 years they were de facto independent.
That's not how self-determination works in int'l law but nice try pushing Twitter propaganda here. ;)
As a de facto state, the Republic of Artsakh was protected under the UN Charter's Universal ban on the use of force, rendering Azerbaijan's invasions illegal from the get-go. But I suppose international law only matters, when it suits your interests, hm?
@@alenlivaishow proof when the Republic of "Artsakh" was protected and everyone here will believe you if you provide the truth to us.
Arthshak dediğini devlet bir sahte kukla devletdir! Ermenistanın kuklasıdır unutmayalım ki Ermenilerin orduları karabağa girdiğinde özellikle sivil halka saldırmıṣ etnik katliam yapmıştır Hocalı katliamı ve buna benzer olaylar çok üstelik 1ci karabağ savaşinda 3000 esir kaybolmuş sonları bilinememiştir. Halada işgalden kurtarılan Azerbaycan topraklarında toplu mezarlar bulunmaktadır. Biz halkımızı, devletimizin topraklarını, şerefimizi koruruz! Ermenistan anayasası karabağı kendisinin ilan ediyo ama bu çok saldırganca bişey! Söyleyin bakalım cidden hala Azerbaycanın suçlu olduğunu saniyormusunuz?! Öyle düşünüyosanızsa umarım Hocalıda olan olaylar Şuşada olan olaylar sizin başınıza gelir. @@alenlivai
A video that appeals to the point of view of both sides, cheers! We Turks wish the best for the Caucasus 🇦🇿
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So that's why u started massacres from 11 century ?
@@user-ne6pw6rc6l The Seljuk Empire, which has maintained its presence in the region for more than a century, is one of the states where the Islamic renaissance was manifested. Can you imagine the cultural peak we reached at the time when culture and science were just beginning to emerge in Europe? As for the massacres, you seem to have forgotten the massacres you carried out with russian weapons in Anatolia, Baku, Karabakh and Zangezur.
@@Turk_1918 I didn't forget anything, seljuks came to the region, occupied armenian land,a lot of armenian left Armenia, so u literally destroyed Bagratid Armenia,than Cilicia.Armenian didn't come to ur home and didn't occupie any territory, u took Van,Erzurum,Ararat,Kars.And the most interesting thing is that u didn't recognize it.And when armenian raised against turk and tried to liberated their lands, you call it "massacre" or "betrayal". To understand all historical context read "Diaspora politics:at home abroad" by Gabriel Sheffer or "The history of East".
Read also about great Surgun.
As an Azerbaijani, I've got to say, this is quite comprehensive and rather unbiased research on the now-closed conflict. Well done!
Karabakh is Armenia
Armenia is Azerbaijan, bozidgha.
@@armenianantifurrycan to Karabakh and tell it there… if you can 😂
@@eklezia2829 bozo txan lavta gyoti meky gandon
@@r2com641 shut your @$$
One point, you depicted the map of the former Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region wrong. You included former Shaumyan district into it, which, in fact, never was a part of Nagorno-Karabakh. Please, when you do mapping, don't use one-sided maps. Armenian side often deliberately includes such territories into Nagorno-Karabakh in their maps, which is deceptive.
As an Azerbaijani I should say it is really difficult to talk about such a complicated conflict. Thanks for the detailed information.
Honestly, thank you for pointing this out! I was reviewing the map sources I used for the video and that is a mistake I made versus using a one-sided map; so, I take fully responsibility here. I always strive to be as accurate as possible and can't believe I missed that in editing. Like you said, Shaumyan District (including that northern portion, which is now a part of Azerbaijan's Goranboy District, if I'm correct) wasn't part of the original Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast - although, I do believe representatives from Shaumyan declared independence along with the NKAO, giving rise to the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh's claims.
Either way, I'm going to add that as a correction in the video's description and pin a comment as well. Thanks again!
I see. It is pretty possible to oversee some small details as the conflict is extremely complex. Some don't even differentiate former Nagorno-Karabakh and 7 surrounding districts in their maps.
Unlike Nagorno-Karabakh, former Shaumyan district(now part of Goranboy district) had no autonomy and was directly controlled by Baku. Yes as you said, its Armenian population tried to join Karabakh armenians but were unsuccessful and moved to Nagorno-Karabakh.
Anyway, this is one of the few videos made by foreigners that appears unbiased and accurate as far as I saw on RUclips. Once again, thank you for your effort!
Why do you keep calling it "Shushi" when literally every non-partisan source calls it by its Azerbaijani name, i.e. Shusha?
Because it's older name is Shushi.
@@alenlivai No, it's not. Check any map.
@@ggrad2651 Check any history textbook.
Shushi is the original name@@ggrad2651
It was Shusha. The ruins of city of Tigranagert (city of King Tigran the Great who ruled front 75-15 BC are still there. Armenians have lived in Artsakh continually for 2,700 years. Azerbaijan, the land, was part of Persian Empire till 1828. They lost a war, 1826-1828, to Russian Empire and surrendered the land to Russian Empire in 1828. Russians called it Tatarstan. Persians used to call the area Arran and Baku Badkubeh. Republic of Azerbaijan was created in 1918. Stalin, the Georgian, put Artsakh (NK) 95% Armenian under Azeri control to please Turkey. Azerbaijan celebrated its 104th Anniversary in May 2022. Also, Turkey celebrated its 569th Anniversary in May 2022. Turkey was created in 1453. Azerbaijani and Turkish history are falsified. Seljuke Turks and Mongols started moving West front the East in 11-12 centuries through Persia. khanates were created by Mongols, e.g. Cingus khan, Kublai Khan etc. In Iran there were also khans. It is like Scottish clans of McDonald, Fergus. They were not countries, they part of part of the Scotland, like a state or province. There is no country of Azerbaijan or Turkey in any world maps. Even enclave if Nakhijevan still has kept its Armenian name, the first landing place which has religious connotations.
God free and protect Armenia with Artsakh
105 thousand not 120
Armenia was holding about 20% of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan took his lands back and only 200 square km extra
Who is the bad guy here?
Turks
Sound like the illegal invasion by northern cyprus 🇨🇾 by turkey
Still Turks and Azerbaijan, which is a fake country with no claim to the region.
@@bullmoosevelt4495 sir )amiriva also a fake country. But you won’t believe it but the still exist
Sure. And by the way Turkey and Azerbaijan 2 deferent nation. They like Ukraine and Russia or Poland let’s say. But it is a raicism say they all the same
You are pretty pro Armenian. Very unbalanced
God bless Azerbaijan ❤️💋
Hard times.
Nagorno-Karabağ değil sadece Karabağ❤
free Nagorno-Karabakh
Nice.. We don't need failed state
it never really existed in the first place
I'm sorry, where's your history degree doctor?
@@somerandomduud4086Since when did a false state had a history?
@@BraveSonofKarabakh 1, if u can't spell then u shouldn't debate. 2, more than 3000+ years ago when the Armenians settled in the Kingdom of hay, all Turkics were all in Mongolia and came like a 1000 years or more later and got here through massacres, genocides, war and conquest. Armenia and Artsakg are not false states, because they atleast have freedom of media and a right to express your voice. Aliyev is an autocrat that surpresses others voice, there was a referendum held in which 99.8% voted for independance. Since then a local government took de facto control with help of Armenia, which means it existed and u can't argue against that, what Azerbaijan did was an invasion and ethnic cleansing and there is no excuse for that
There is so much history that I probably couldn't fit it in this comment section, it'd be longer than Putin's 30 seconds history lesson. 🔥
@@somerandomduud4086Keep smokin bro
He predicted the future lol
I have some concerns. You did not discuss much about what international law and the UN says about the issue and the UN resolutions asking Armenia to relinquish the occupation. You foucused mostly on massacres of Armenians, with the exception of Khojaly, when both sides were killing each other. You could have also mentioned that Armenia shelled the Azeri city of Ganja, which was out of the conflict zone, causing many casualties. In fact more Azeri civilians died than Armenians even though it was a war in Armenia-controlled territory. Finally, Azerbaijani has guaranteed the right of Armenians to live in Azerbaijan if they so choose.
This video makes no mention of Azerbaijanis being deported from Armenia as early as November 1987. That was the actual start of the conflict in the most recent history.
No mention about Great Surgun made by Shah Abass 1
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Hey, thanks Daniel; we might give long-form content a try on some other videos going forward too!
While this was very informative, I personally don't like long form videos all that much. I have to be really in the mood for them. And to be completely honest, I Define long form is anything longer than 15 minutes or so. It's embarrassing how much of my to watch later pile is made up of videos that fit that description.
Thanks for letting me know! Long-form definitely isn’t for everyone and, just like you, I find I usually having to be in the mood for it myself. I just figured we’d give it a shot here, since whenever we break up a longer video into multiple parts, it usually doesn’t seem to do that well. I also do think some topics just lend themselves to a longer video, but I don’t think it’ll become the standard on the channel.
This was not a country it is a territory of Armenia
No, it's a territory of Azerbaijan
...оставив танк, забрав унитаз,арсах покинул Карабах. Караbagh iz Azerbaijan. 🇦🇿🇦🇿❤️❤️🇦🇿🇦🇿
Karabakh is Azerbaijan
Why does Israel exist?
Armenia has always picked the wrong friends
It never voluntarily picked anyhing. It is under constant attack by turks and russians
Like the Carlson-Putin interview justifying the Armenian invasion etc poor Armenians massacred all the time but forgetting about Azerbaijani. Terrible history manipulation with a one-side view.
Yes, it is poort Armenians massacred all the time. Armenia is not teaching kids to kill Azeris but Azeris are teaching kids in school to kill Armenians, Armenia is not celebrating people for killing random Azeris but Azeris praise the random killing of Armenians.
We know what you guys do, just cuz u write it in a different language doesn't mean we can't read it.
That is very good thing that it dusnt exist enymore 😅