So the moral of the story is: You can send your MX-5 to get a supercharged V8 and a bunch of dinky, confused bodywork that ruins the original lines of the car. Or you can just turbocharge it, run nearly the same power, and keep the exterior of the car decidedly un-screwed up.
The issue is you can do that to the 1.8 and gain more HP/TQ and have a more reliable engine that they make more parts for. I know for a fact the stock BP 1.8 was originally designed as a AWD turbo'd engine intended for rally racing. Which is why the 1.8 has oil squirters and other turbo-esque parts. The Miata's 1.8 is essentially a de-turbo'd, turbo engine. 1.6 is decent, but the 1.8 has the advantage in every category. There's no advantage to the 1.6 they even weigh about the same.
Honestly that was terrible. v8 with 300-400 hp and it did a 13sec quarter mile, cant even pull away from a 170 kw mx5 and the v8 isnt even much heavier,,... lol and they sell these as super cars
@ThePhan7em, not with the Lexus V8, all aluminium design makes it very light weight, plus it is placed further back than the original Mazda 4 cylinder maintaining its near 50-50 weight distribution
I agree with all the comments about the boring design choices for the front lights and bumper. From the front it looks like a Honda Del Sol (discontinued). I think if they made single headlamps with some straight edges and angles it might help it look meaner and more desired. - just a thought.
The V8 sounds awesome and you can get the V8 roadsters kit these days for the LS, but I was really surprised about the performance of the Turbo too in comparison. Mordern turbocharging with modern engine management on E85 with the 1.8L engine would have enough speed and reliabity to suit most people chasing more thrills. But again doesn't sound as good.
I can't believe they did so much work to completly rebuild the front chassis. The single piece foward opening hood is interesting, but someone needs to show them how a small block Ford or an LSX will fit in there without much modification. Not to mention a "430hp" supercharged V8 only just barely beating a turboed 1.6L. I love V8 Miatas, but that was unimpressive.
That Bullet sounds pretty good but that video seems to say that a turbocharged and intercooled forged standard 1.6l B6 engine in an NA is virtually a match for a supercharged 4.0l V8 that'll use much more fuel and detroy the near perfect factory handling!
killem89 Which is much more than doing a 1UZ-FE swap. The motor will run you under 1500 for good one with ECU and wiring harness. An r154 5-speed supra tranny goes for 1k-1500 or drop 2500 on the overkill v160 getrag 6-speed. You can run the rear-end from a turbo2 fc3s to handle the torque as it was designed to handle well over 300lb-ft. Those go for about 1000 at the most. Get yourself a custom drive shaft at a machine shop for about 300 bucks. The fc3s diff bolts up the the miata's rear sub-frame so no custom fab there. Depending on how good your metal fab and welding skills are, you can do your own custom mounts for the motor and transmission. You're looking at well under 5000 for parts if you absolutely must have the Getrag transmission. You have 300 hp to play with for much less than the cost of an LS1 swap that you're claiming will cost 14-15k. LS-swapped Miatas are completely pointless anyway. 3100lb Corvettes run those motors with 285 tires and struggle to put power down at times. You can't get anything bigger than a 225 street tire on a Miata(nobody makes them bigger for 15 or 16 inch wheels) so there's no point in putting more than 300 horsepower through a first or second gen Miata chassis.
It's still too much MX-5 to justify the cost unless it was your project. Sold as a finished product it's a pricey underperformer, but you will be wallet special... Also the guys in the states doing this with GM V8 are making a product that puts up great numbers.
Flying Miata will toss a Vette LS3 into a Miata and keep the balance close to stock! Open up the firewall and move the engine back. 500RWHP in 2400lbs! That's not a Bullett it's a Rocket!
Nice body style on the Bullet, but horrible balance, crappy suspension, and it looks like they need to work on their wheel/tire package to get the power to actually stick down. The car squats under acceleration and wants to drift off of every corner while the mx5 takes a great line, even with 300hp. Looks like an fun car, but very slow for a road course.
the V8 they're using in the Bullet is NOT a LS1... and engine isn't everything.. You could put a beefy engine into a miata, but your performance will still be dictated by the weakest performing part.. be it your transmission/drivetrain or your differential.. Could also be a raw difference of power between the different V8's.
Disagree.. it might LOOK like a chic car still, but this could be confused for a sleeper miata.. the power:weight ratio is far better with the bullet than a standard MX-5 (not engine swap MX-5).. infact, the ratio is probably a little more than I'd feel comfortable letting the mrs drive..
Methinks they should have used that "advanced 3D modeling" on revamping the suspension to be able to handle the power instead of wasting it on that hideous bodywork.
Why did they use a 1.6 Miata? The 1.8L has more power all over and makes a better turbo platform. They obviously wanted the bullet to win. A SC V8 versus a 1.6L Turbo'd, you couldn't at least bump the Miata's engine to the 1.8L version? Talk about bias.
@Ratava252 I was making a joke smart guy. Actual bullets and rockets and how ludicrous it is to call cars such things. Guess it was over your head. lol another aeronautic joke.
My concept and design blows the "bullet" away. Mine is fully street legal, and you don't have to chop the car apart to get a Lexus 4.0 V8 in a Miata. Hey Bullet, check out my missile!
@@peterhoare3219 built in a garage*, for "professionals", their design is laughable. My car is fully street AND emissions legal in California and Worldwide. Where is their certification? Exactly, they don't have it.
Yeah, but MAYBE the standard chassis isn't DESIGNED to take a V8? Rather a puny 1.6 Hence why the professionals chopped the front half off and did a space frame Your thing will be CRAP mate. Might have a prettier face but dogshit underneath
why would you put a v8 in an rx5 and then change the whole car but keep the looks and then change even the looks .... now you got a expensive v8 car which is very small and looks like shit ...
@@Twobarpsi Capable in wot way. To crawl up the road slower than a Toyota Corolla? I OWNED a series one MX5. I know the chassis. Just lacked grunt This fixes it
![Turbocharged Vs Supercharged - Part 4 [Skid Pan Battle]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w359Y9c25dc/mqdefault.jpg)
the bullet looks mischievous while the mx5 looks stoned.
So the moral of the story is: You can send your MX-5 to get a supercharged V8 and a bunch of dinky, confused bodywork that ruins the original lines of the car. Or you can just turbocharge it, run nearly the same power, and keep the exterior of the car decidedly un-screwed up.
You can get more power out of a v-8 while not giving up reliability
You have a point, but the Bullet V8 has much softer wheel and suspension setup than the modded turbo one.
Facts
The issue is you can do that to the 1.8 and gain more HP/TQ and have a more reliable engine that they make more parts for. I know for a fact the stock BP 1.8 was originally designed as a AWD turbo'd engine intended for rally racing. Which is why the 1.8 has oil squirters and other turbo-esque parts. The Miata's 1.8 is essentially a de-turbo'd, turbo engine. 1.6 is decent, but the 1.8 has the advantage in every category. There's no advantage to the 1.6 they even weigh about the same.
THEY KILLED THE FLIPPY HEADLIGHTS Dx
American Way V8 of Power.....fullsteam said wow USA Free.feeling on the road !
Honestly that was terrible. v8 with 300-400 hp and it did a 13sec quarter mile, cant even pull away from a 170 kw mx5 and the v8 isnt even much heavier,,...
lol and they sell these as super cars
sounds like moog at the beggining
@NBSV1 well the v8 had street tires and the turbo four has semi-slicks.
nice attention to detail in that engine bay in the bullet
Wow how times have changed, $3000 on board car camera fell. We now have $400 GoPros that records 1080p and also in slow motion.
@ThePhan7em, not with the Lexus V8, all aluminium design makes it very light weight, plus it is placed further back than the original Mazda 4 cylinder maintaining its near 50-50 weight distribution
dude, that supercharger sound is music to my ears. lol
I agree with all the comments about the boring design choices for the front lights and bumper. From the front it looks like a Honda Del Sol (discontinued). I think if they made single headlamps with some straight edges and angles it might help it look meaner and more desired. - just a thought.
looks like a ford escort front end on a miata with ebay tail lights
1. Start engine
2. Turn off engine
3. Start engine
4. Turn off engine
5. Sigh
6. Repeat
The V8 sounds awesome and you can get the V8 roadsters kit these days for the LS, but I was really surprised about the performance of the Turbo too in comparison.
Mordern turbocharging with modern engine management on E85 with the 1.8L engine would have enough speed and reliabity to suit most people chasing more thrills.
But again doesn't sound as good.
Blown V8 and it can barely hold its own. Those turbo guys know their shit
That front end looks so shit, the original MX-5 front looks beast and less try hard.
can't believe the 1.6 is still quick as heck! lol
looks like a riced out miata..............cant be doin that
They aren't.........SERIOUS engineering. Made down the road from me. Tweed Heads, Australia.
MONSTERS
Internally and engine wise, this car is a masterpiece...
Its too bad that it visually looks like burnt turd on concrete.
I can respect the skill in engineering but that's it.
I can't believe they did so much work to completly rebuild the front chassis. The single piece foward opening hood is interesting, but someone needs to show them how a small block Ford or an LSX will fit in there without much modification.
Not to mention a "430hp" supercharged V8 only just barely beating a turboed 1.6L. I love V8 Miatas, but that was unimpressive.
That Bullet sounds pretty good but that video seems to say that a turbocharged and intercooled forged standard 1.6l B6 engine in an NA is virtually a match for a supercharged 4.0l V8 that'll use much more fuel and detroy the near perfect factory handling!
You can probably drop in an ls1, turbo charge it and it would still be cheaper than this. They should have stuck with GM or the 302
No, it wouldn't.
Angel Christov how do you figure? An LS1 swap will net you at around 14-15k
killem89 Which is much more than doing a 1UZ-FE swap. The motor will run you under 1500 for good one with ECU and wiring harness. An r154 5-speed supra tranny goes for 1k-1500 or drop 2500 on the overkill v160 getrag 6-speed. You can run the rear-end from a turbo2 fc3s to handle the torque as it was designed to handle well over 300lb-ft. Those go for about 1000 at the most. Get yourself a custom drive shaft at a machine shop for about 300 bucks. The fc3s diff bolts up the the miata's rear sub-frame so no custom fab there. Depending on how good your metal fab and welding skills are, you can do your own custom mounts for the motor and transmission. You're looking at well under 5000 for parts if you absolutely must have the Getrag transmission. You have 300 hp to play with for much less than the cost of an LS1 swap that you're claiming will cost 14-15k. LS-swapped Miatas are completely pointless anyway. 3100lb Corvettes run those motors with 285 tires and struggle to put power down at times. You can't get anything bigger than a 225 street tire on a Miata(nobody makes them bigger for 15 or 16 inch wheels) so there's no point in putting more than 300 horsepower through a first or second gen Miata chassis.
@@Angel-HC good info cheers, might just do this one day!
wow sick cars
we have come a long way
Thank you for uploading this! :)
Sweet car guys!
@Tomrexxx1 no i not arguing that a V8 is not good, i just believe it to be overkill for such a small car.
It's still too much MX-5 to justify the cost unless it was your project. Sold as a finished product it's a pricey underperformer, but you will be wallet special...
Also the guys in the states doing this with GM V8 are making a product that puts up great numbers.
Flying Miata will toss a Vette LS3 into a Miata and keep the balance close to stock! Open up the firewall and move the engine back. 500RWHP in 2400lbs! That's not a Bullett it's a Rocket!
Can't wait to start my k24a2 swap!
It looks like a MX-5 got botox...
i loled at the STYLE BAR
agreed mx5 should be a proper jdm car sleeper eyes :)
Nice body style on the Bullet, but horrible balance, crappy suspension, and it looks like they need to work on their wheel/tire package to get the power to actually stick down. The car squats under acceleration and wants to drift off of every corner while the mx5 takes a great line, even with 300hp. Looks like an fun car, but very slow for a road course.
im about to start a 1uz swap into my 99 miata as a full on drift car
why didnt they just put an ls1 in and leave the body stock like everyone else?
and of course, certain American companies do something similar.
the V8 they're using in the Bullet is NOT a LS1... and engine isn't everything.. You could put a beefy engine into a miata, but your performance will still be dictated by the weakest performing part.. be it your transmission/drivetrain or your differential.. Could also be a raw difference of power between the different V8's.
@gokartsRfun I know a dude who put a 1uz in a s14 and uses it to drift , its beast as shit
tell that to shelby cobra.
because that's exactly how the cobra was built
racing with no rollbar. Pro!
Where can i get the headlights of the white miata?
Disagree.. it might LOOK like a chic car still, but this could be confused for a sleeper miata.. the power:weight ratio is far better with the bullet than a standard MX-5 (not engine swap MX-5).. infact, the ratio is probably a little more than I'd feel comfortable letting the mrs drive..
Anyone know what type of mouse that guy was using with the 3d software?
Still chic car
Gag that front end styling job sucks! I think I am gonna be sick now...
id take the white turbo.
Methinks they should have used that "advanced 3D modeling" on revamping the suspension to be able to handle the power instead of wasting it on that hideous bodywork.
My guess would be the UK...
mx5 turbo less expensive and better on the track
The issue is, the 1.6 was only on 1 bar/15 psi. And those cars can run a lot higher. Squirt water/meth and run it to 24 psi. Good bye sluggy V8.
Pop those mods on a 1.8L and the Bullet would get spanked. What a waste of time.
body is disgusting but that supercharged v8 sounds amazing
racing no roll bar ??? im scared of driving mine on the freeway with out one... but a they are pro's right...
Compete with TVR!! I don't think so. Would also take the Mx5 over the bullet in a heartbeat. Better on the track and nearly as fast on the drag strip.
the mx5 in general? Or theirs?
For the money I'll take the Miata any day. Just a tad more boost and it would have whooped that Bullet!
want one with the carbys =O
Looks like a Del Sol from the front
Ya but it's so ugly and they ruined it
Putting a V8 in an MX5 defeats the point of the car, am wrong to say that?
They're based out of Australia... double-u double-u double-u ■ bulletcars ■ com
Why did they use a 1.6 Miata? The 1.8L has more power all over and makes a better turbo platform. They obviously wanted the bullet to win. A SC V8 versus a 1.6L Turbo'd, you couldn't at least bump the Miata's engine to the 1.8L version? Talk about bias.
"thankfully it never lost its sound"?? that thing sounded like a women, whining and annoying.
That moment when they realize they shoulda went LS haha :) nothing Better then a Lexus my ass xD
@macq1 huh? so the mazda has 100 hp......and the bullet has 1000 to 2000? math= nonexistent
@Ratava252 I was making a joke smart guy. Actual bullets and rockets and how ludicrous it is to call cars such things. Guess it was over your head. lol another aeronautic joke.
My concept and design blows the "bullet" away. Mine is fully street legal, and you don't have to chop the car apart to get a Lexus 4.0 V8 in a Miata. Hey Bullet, check out my missile!
Errrrr..... these are street legal, and HIGHLY engineered by professionals. Not your backyard job
@@peterhoare3219 built in a garage*, for "professionals", their design is laughable. My car is fully street AND emissions legal in California and Worldwide. Where is their certification? Exactly, they don't have it.
Yeah, but MAYBE the standard chassis isn't DESIGNED to take a V8? Rather a puny 1.6
Hence why the professionals chopped the front half off and did a space frame
Your thing will be CRAP mate. Might have a prettier face but dogshit underneath
@@peterhoare3219 their design shows how they failed. Monster Miata and I, have a better design. Does your daddy work for this company?
@@Twobarpsi So you've self engineered a space frame chassis. Yeah?
@JcXtreme72
No Miata looks good.
1.6 turbo, making 300 bhp, how the...
hello everyone!!!where is the bullet company?
giwrgos chris Look for it in the graveyard
Australia
well, they'll do good against TVR...
No, it's cheating to compare a car on street tires to a car on semi slicks
Bullet killed the mx5 fun
Monster miata
did he just say auto? wtf.....
WHY?
why would you put a v8 in an rx5 and then change the whole car but keep the looks and then change even the looks .... now you got a expensive v8 car which is very small and looks like shit ...
@HxCpoppunkCAAB some are much faster actually. 10 to 20 times faster
13 sec on a supercharged v8? Lmfao. My s2000 makes 550 whp on stock block!
Yeah but the S2000 motor is a freaking awesome motor.
Aussie solution to seemingly everything: Put a V8 in it. No imagination, this bunch.
Bullshit a V8 miata will do mid 11 there's one with ls1 that kill a ferarri
all that v8 supercharged crap...and it just beat the turbo... just ..Ha
lololol
Nope.
Sorry guys, nice engine but car looks like shit!
Front and rear looks like crap, might as left it stock mate!
SPOILERS!
The body mods are just plain ugly.
you've ruined it... :(
So the Miata looks better, handles better, goes faster and is cheaper than a Bullet.......Hhhhhmmm. Yep. The Mazda is still a better car.
ITS THE SAME CAR......just with actual GRUNT and SERIOUS engineering
@@peterhoare3219 serious engineering to make it less capable, what a joke 😂
@@Twobarpsi Capable in wot way. To crawl up the road slower than a Toyota Corolla?
I OWNED a series one MX5. I know the chassis. Just lacked grunt
This fixes it
@@peterhoare3219 you really don't know my background...I'm enjoying this.
@@Twobarpsi You have the floor. What is your background
tanto dinero invertido para hacer un aborto
bd4'smx5 turo los heaps better!
its ugly probulaty coz its heaps old
Looks too much like an ugly del sol......
lololol