[HD] Michelle Kwan - Lyra Angelica - 1998 Nagano Olympics - FS ミシェル・クワン Мишель Кван

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  • Michelle Kwan / Мишель Кван / ミシェル・クワン / 関穎珊
    1998 Nagano Olympics / 1998 олимпиада в нагано / 1998 長野五輪
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    Nagano Winter Olympic Games Figure Skating Ladies Free Skating
    зимние Олимпийские игры в Нагано, фигурное катание,Женское одиночное, Произвольная программа.
    長野オリンピック フィギュアスケート 女子 フリースケーティング
    Music: Lyra Angelica
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Комментарии • 312

  • @donjoevillacorta2790
    @donjoevillacorta2790 3 года назад +26

    This is the absolute gold performance of any Olympics I’ve ever watched. Just breathtaking

  • @inezmickel1274
    @inezmickel1274 5 лет назад +59

    Her face was the most genuine of all the skaters ...
    She was my favorite

    • @JarenMorris21
      @JarenMorris21 4 года назад +3

      Stunningly gorgeous face, indeed!

    • @richa980
      @richa980 4 года назад +1

      inez mickel bruh you remember Tara Lipinski’s cause damn

    • @richa980
      @richa980 4 года назад +1

      inez mickel bruh you remember Tara Lipinski’s cause damn

  • @mukashi_no_ojyosan
    @mukashi_no_ojyosan 3 года назад +44

    この演技も一生忘れられない💯目の前で見た、ミシェル・クワン。本当に素敵で感動した💐

  • @Kk-lg7xx
    @Kk-lg7xx 5 лет назад +65

    What a beautiful, simple costume!

    • @JarenMorris21
      @JarenMorris21 4 года назад +5

      Just lovely!

    • @MsSlucyna
      @MsSlucyna 4 года назад +5

      Classy

    • @snopesshop1903
      @snopesshop1903 4 года назад +3

      It's perfection

    • @Kaboomboo
      @Kaboomboo 3 года назад +3

      Yes. Simple costumes tend to work more in figure skating imo.

  • @Karlinberlin1
    @Karlinberlin1 7 лет назад +118

    Look at us all. 20 years lager and we're still talking about it. Can there be any doubt Kwan was a titan of the sport. Right there with Henji, Button, and the Protopopovs. This program is my favorite Kwan. The music edit and that ice blue velvet(?) - I guess Lori Nichol choreo - Michelle's joy. Wow!!

    • @dmmchugh3714
      @dmmchugh3714 3 года назад +4

      My favorite was the "East of Eden" program, but this program is also magnificent.
      This skating era is gone for good, sadly.

    • @terrywilder9
      @terrywilder9 3 года назад +1

      @@dmmchugh3714 Yes this age is finally gone! They're taking it to the next level!

    • @Qacc6
      @Qacc6 2 года назад +1

      Yes totally modern. In fact artistically more sophisticated than the past three Olympic champions for sure!

    • @arlenekime6230
      @arlenekime6230 2 года назад +6

      It killed me when Michelle didn't win the gold medal. I was heartbroken and cried for weeks. It is a program I'll never forget. Michelle is and always will be The Queen!!

    • @annehancock6734
      @annehancock6734 Год назад +1

      @@NoName-ge6wc I liked Tara too, but to say she was greatest female figure skater of all time is really stretching it a bit far. I thought they both skated beautifully in these Olympics. I would have given Michelle the edge artistic, and Tara technically.

  • @patsysoto1686
    @patsysoto1686 4 года назад +28

    this program is the ultimate in beauty and grace... Michelle has given the sport so many beautiful programs... it was never just about the jumps with her, it was about how beautiful she could make the experience for the audience... skating has never had anyone who could make you cry because the skating was just so incredibly lovely... Michelle is a once in a lifetime skater, and it will be a long time before we have someone like her again... she may not have won the gold, but the silver she got was worth a million times more than that... it gave us the joy of enjoying her for many more years... long after others had taken the money and run, we still had the beauty of Michelle- and that is worth more than a thousand gold medals...

  • @Dylvente
    @Dylvente 8 лет назад +81

    I've watched this performance many times, but the great camera angles here make it seem new to me! Thanks for sharing!

    • @auntiechercher4266
      @auntiechercher4266 6 лет назад +3

      You are right . . . it seems different to me with these camera views . .. the performance seems better to me than the US version.

    • @DustonWard1
      @DustonWard1 5 лет назад +3

      Definitely agree! Mintaka has the best videos without a doubt!

    • @victorserrano8294
      @victorserrano8294 4 года назад +1

      Indeed, this is the Japanese tv transmission. International tv transmission showed other angles, even the audio was different, I remember the sound of those running edges and the landings

  • @dizzymindy6024
    @dizzymindy6024 3 года назад +36

    This is true skating, lyrical, delicate, artistic, not a note wasted. She may have won the silver, but her artistry deserved the gold.

    • @lindaclark9925
      @lindaclark9925 3 года назад +7

      Had artistry not been basicly removed as a main scoring element thanks to that mechanical terrible Canadian couple demanding to win although they were awful, Michelle easily would have gotten the gold, lipinski had zilch artistry and shouldn't have won.

    • @aspenrobinson8797
      @aspenrobinson8797 3 года назад

      @@lindaclark9925 I found a lot of Michelle's skating boring only using her arms . Just saying .

    • @lindaclark9925
      @lindaclark9925 3 года назад +5

      @@aspenrobinson8797 totally you do not watch skating , sorry-ppl with good taste get to comment 🙋

    • @lindaclark9925
      @lindaclark9925 3 года назад +9

      @@aspenrobinson8797 she had WAY MORE ARTISTRY than Tara lipinski. Tara DID NOT DESERVE THE GOLD , MICHELLE WAS THE GOLD WINNER . Tara looked like ...the wiry kid from gym class that can put themselves in a pretzel and who cares...plus, she was too young or hadn't lived enough to even UNDERSTAND the WORD artistry. TEAM MUCHELLE QUAN FOREVER

    • @Karolkid
      @Karolkid 2 года назад +3

      @@lindaclark9925 just to not confuse things, the scoring system was changed in 2004, after that incident of the Salt Lake City Olympics in 2002, where Salé/Pelletier had that kids tantrum and achieved a fake gold shared medal. This all happened after Nagano 1998, where Tara Lipinski won over Michelle Kwan. The 6.0 system was even worst than the one we have now, it was more easy to place skaters as they decide, and the artistic was rarely rewarded properly. You can perfectly see it in this concrete case, while I still think they placed correctly, as Tara jumps content was much bigger, it is unfair that they scored Michelle only with 5.9 in the artistic score and then gave Tara 5.8 and 5.9. That is infamous and didn't reflect the big gap in they artistic skills and choreo.

  • @ryderkimball7291
    @ryderkimball7291 7 лет назад +119

    I cry every time i watch this performance, absolutely just the most beautiful ever, she really should have win the gold.

    • @Karolkid
      @Karolkid 2 года назад +3

      it's one of the most beautiful and creatives programs we have seen at the olympics, same as her short program. But in my opinion, as it is a sport and the gap in technical content was big, it was "fair" in terms of competition. In terms of life, skating career...then I don't think so. But sport it is like this, specially Olympics, which is so unpredictable. Obviously, Michelle transcended in a way that, as you say, we still watch her.

    • @Tony-if3tl
      @Tony-if3tl 2 года назад +3

      Wrong. Sadly, Michelle never shined when the lights were brightest. Tara beat her. Unquestionably.

  • @eileen4991
    @eileen4991 6 лет назад +28

    Michelle, you always made Americans so proud!!

  • @abelardonavarro2096
    @abelardonavarro2096 10 месяцев назад +3

    2023 still watching. Another one of those cases that a great performer was robbed. Gold all the way Michelle!!!

  • @pjesf
    @pjesf Год назад +4

    I bet she wishes she had this program back - it’s slow and cautious compared to Nationals. She’s still far and away my fave; I haven’t even followed skating since she left the sport. ❤️MK❤️

  • @HARDBAL
    @HARDBAL 6 лет назад +62

    Back in the day when edges mattered.

  • @teresasmith4446
    @teresasmith4446 2 года назад +7

    I remember feeling so sad for her when she didn't win the gold I thought her performance was so much better than Tara liskeinsky's maybe she didn't have all the jumps but it was so much more elegant and so much nicer to watch I love that little outfit that she's wearing so pretty simple but elegant I read somewhere that she just had a baby daughter God bless her may she have no regrets bye

  • @echen1716
    @echen1716 5 лет назад +37

    This is looking from a new camera angle. That triple flip didn’t look that bad from this angle. I still think Michelle was the better skate of the night.

    • @drouinjohnny9036
      @drouinjohnny9036 3 года назад +2

      Right...the take off was nor good because she picked with her boots..but she saved it...she’s a pro....

  • @herm712
    @herm712 4 года назад +34

    I'm still bitter about this. Fact of the matter is this competition was determined by skating order more than anything because both Michelle and Tara skated well. However, had Michelle skated after Tara, the majority if not all of the 5.9s for presentation would have been 6.0s and she would have won.

    • @stevebbuk
      @stevebbuk 3 года назад +5

      I agree with this. She had a more mature appearance on the ice than Tara Lipinski and I preferred her programme. Had Lipinski not won here we may have seen her compete in Salt Lake City, when Kwan was past her peak.

    • @samdevil82
      @samdevil82 3 года назад +4

      Yes. I think her presentation was superior to Lapinski, but Lapinski skated a technically more difficult program, which gave her the edge even without the tie breaking artistic mark coming into play.

    • @terrywilder9
      @terrywilder9 3 года назад +2

      But Tara's was both aesthetically and physically the better performance!

    • @mikeudolf3474
      @mikeudolf3474 3 года назад +5

      I'm still.pissed too. Lipinski and her 3L/3L certainly deserved higher technical scores but she skated like a little girl. Her 2nd mark should've been 2-3 tenths lower. Also agree about skate order influencing things to Michelle's detriment. She deserved the gold

    • @terrywilder9
      @terrywilder9 2 года назад

      @@TT-ee4qp They should lift all age restrictions! If a prepubescent 12-13 year old girl can skate better than a 16-17 year old so be it. The same with women gymnastics. Tara was out there having fun, while Michelle was trying to win a gold medal.

  • @donjoevillacorta2790
    @donjoevillacorta2790 3 года назад +7

    4:11 was when you start crying and crying and that’s when I thought no one can best this performance. But then again she was robbed. Look at her cry in the end. All the hard work she kept on Going.

  • @クジラブリ大根
    @クジラブリ大根 4 года назад +11

    終始曲調がゆったりとしていて演じるのが非常に難しいと思われる曲を
    ここまで柔らかく優しい表現で演じてみせるクワン選手はやっぱり別格。
    3T-3Tが一つでも入っていたら、結果は変わっていたかもしれません。
    でも何回も見たくなるそんな素敵な演技だったと思います。

    • @tadatada4098
      @tadatada4098 3 года назад +5

      会場で生の演技を見ました。
      トリプルトリプルがなくても、滑走順がリピンスキーより後なら芸術点で満点が幾つか出て、1位になってた可能性大だと思います。
      何ともいえないオーラが演技にありました。

    • @クジラブリ大根
      @クジラブリ大根 3 года назад +5

      @@tadatada4098 生でご覧になったのですね!うらやましいです…。
      6.0方式はどうしても順位が滑走順に影響されてしまうのがもどかしく感じます。
      高難易度化した今のフィギュアも好きですが、このクワン選手の演技は唯一無二の魅力があって何度もリピートしてしまいます。

    • @taktshi3036
      @taktshi3036 3 года назад +5

      彼女のスケートの美しさと魅力は未だに越える人は見ていない。

  • @ЛюдмилаСавельева-ч2и
    @ЛюдмилаСавельева-ч2и 3 года назад +13

    Очень красиво!!! Нежно и женственно, потрясающе!!!

  • @principessadellefiabe
    @principessadellefiabe 3 года назад +7

    Yes, Michelle was SO much better than Tara, she had a natural elegance, not just technique... She was so much better, that she became a legend anyway. Lyra Angelica had such an impact... I was just 18 watching live, and I thought "I can't even imagine anything best". Moving, beautiful, sentimental, elegant: such a perfection in every moment, in every part of the music. Pure poetry. I really saw true Art that night. Thank you Michelle, it's a real gift you made us. 22 years later, we can still feel our hearts in it. ♥️

    • @figurativeartistbenjaminel8395
      @figurativeartistbenjaminel8395 2 года назад

      Her second combo is such a throw away. It’s the Olympics and she’s doing a bunny hop between a triple and a double. She took out a triple/triple for that. 5.7’s for tech merit was a gift.

  • @lindajack7969
    @lindajack7969 2 года назад +21

    That was perfect! Sooo graceful and clean. She should win gold.🥇

  • @lovethaiful
    @lovethaiful 7 лет назад +23

    音楽とスケーティングが絶妙なる調和を見せた類まれなる選手である。17歳にしてすでにプロの表現力を備え、しかも5種類の3回転ジャンプを跳ぶことができる天才である。

  • @FigureNastics
    @FigureNastics 4 года назад +9

    Beautiful skating under tremendous pressure! How in the world did she land all those jumps! What a strong minded competitor!!! ❤️

    • @lindaclark9925
      @lindaclark9925 3 года назад +2

      She is the best skater of all time.

    • @lindaclark9925
      @lindaclark9925 3 года назад +1

      I watched skating in those year's it seemed she ever was in theeeee most pressure inducing placements ....AND STILL DID IT AND DID IT THE BEST MICHELLE... THE WORLD IS EVIL AND YOU MY DEAR WERE EVER EUPHEREAL ; GOD LOVES YOU 🙋

    • @eugeniocorpuz8338
      @eugeniocorpuz8338 3 года назад +3

      If you remember from the US Nationals she was recovering from a stress fracture. That's why the triple loop- half loop - double toe loop replaced the triple toe loop combo.

  • @Qacc6
    @Qacc6 2 года назад +5

    This was beatufuilly skated! Not tight at all as my memory ticked me into believing. So simple yet so sophisticated. Had she skated later in the gourd she would have won!

  • @taktshi3036
    @taktshi3036 3 года назад +6

    her skating and performance hit my heart

  • @miyamiya2237
    @miyamiya2237 4 года назад +17

    今とは、技がだいぶ違うが、なにかこう気品がある滑りですね。

  • @FigureNastics
    @FigureNastics 2 года назад +2

    Imagine the pressure she was under here!!! However, she skated a clean program! As a crushed MK fan it took me a long time to rewatch this program. However, it wasn't nearly as bad as I'd thought it had been! I think it would be rather difficult to skate 'free' under such pressure but she did a fantastic job!! I'll always love MK! ❤

  • @insaelliott1318
    @insaelliott1318 10 месяцев назад +1

    How many people actively seek out this and other videos of Michelle Kwan's programs because they transcend us vs. how many look for Lipinski's? And this is why Kwan is the greatest skater of living memory.

  • @GreenDay2222
    @GreenDay2222 2 года назад +5

    今までで一番好きな選手です💞

  • @vincenthannah7209
    @vincenthannah7209 4 года назад +6

    Michelle was the only skater who used to give me goose bumps. I am just sad that she never won that gold medal. This is one of my favorite programs.

    • @sassy9182
      @sassy9182 3 года назад +1

      Yes, every time she stepped on the ice, it was magic -gold medal or not. She put her heart and soul into every performance.

    • @aspenrobinson8797
      @aspenrobinson8797 3 года назад +1

      Sasha Cohen
      was the one who moved me with her skating, even though she always messed up and could never put down a clean program she will always be one of the best in the world to me . 🤗

  • @omarmccray3282
    @omarmccray3282 4 года назад +5

    Love kwan, she looks so young we love you and we need someone like her again.

  • @pamelabacker2420
    @pamelabacker2420 4 года назад +52

    Michelle Kwan was robbed! She should've won the gold metal. Tara's performance was good, too, but I though Michelle gave more of a mature, graceful performance.

    • @pamelabacker2420
      @pamelabacker2420 4 года назад +8

      Give Kwan credit. She skated her heart out, and I disagree on her being timid, and she wasn't a chicken, either. Lipinski did perform quite well, too, but I still think the gold should've gone to Kwan.

    • @rowanaforrest9792
      @rowanaforrest9792 4 года назад +9

      Kwan earned every medal she won. The judges never propped her up. She would have brought more pride and presence to the Olympic Gold Medal Club than any of the other women who won the gold instead of her. I doubt we'll ever see another skater with as long and illustrious career as she had.

    • @pamelabacker2420
      @pamelabacker2420 4 года назад +2

      @Mountain Lover I'm sticking to my opinion, regardless. As far as I'm concerned, Kwan is Golden. She skated her heart out.

    • @AxlKhan-v1f
      @AxlKhan-v1f 7 месяцев назад +2

      M.K.s spectacular career and legacy has become bigger than the Olympics. OG has forever lost its magic and luster without her name on it. She never needed it, it needed her .

    • @raylindholm5622
      @raylindholm5622 5 месяцев назад +1

      Indeed!!!

  • @ericsingasong
    @ericsingasong 3 года назад +6

    I disagree with Tara’s win here. She tried more difficult jump combos for sure, but in the old judging system, the artistic mark that should have balanced both programs was used as a cop-out. There’s no way Tara’s artistic marks should have rivaled Michelle’s. You can give technical kudos to Tara here, but artistic should have been Michelle’s, in which case, the deciding factor should have been the results of the short program. That all being said, 20+ years later, Michelle showed that she had determination and longevity to push through and cement herself as an icon in the sport. Tara was a one-hit wonder by comparison. The way Michelle handled herself in the face of defeat beyond her control really made her one of the world’s most recognizable faces and role models of figure skating. One could argue that her career wouldn’t have lasted the test of time had she won here, so though unfair, I think it was a blessing in disguise.

  • @Kimkerbell
    @Kimkerbell 2 года назад +2

    I love her costume😍 pure and graceful

  • @graceyim2976
    @graceyim2976 3 года назад +3

    Graceful n mature technical and presentation

  • @cathyackmann1010
    @cathyackmann1010 2 года назад +1

    She is a joy to watch!

  • @三上智子-c3o
    @三上智子-c3o Год назад +4

    優雅の一言。ジャンプ、スピンの安定感もさることながら表情、視線などの演技力が群を抜いていました

  • @mdb1239
    @mdb1239 4 года назад +5

    Kwan I thought won although Lipinski skated brilliantly also. But in my mind Kwan clear won the Olympic gold.

  • @annhellas
    @annhellas 4 года назад +26

    She was the one who deserved the gold medal

    • @ft-je3rs
      @ft-je3rs 4 года назад +4

      Without question in my book

    • @annhellas
      @annhellas 4 года назад +4

      @@ft-je3rs History has proved she was the best . Tara disappeared after that. Michelle a five-time World champion (1996, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2003) and a nine-time U.S. champion (1996, 1998-2005). She is tied with Maribel Vinson for the all-time National Championship record.

    • @ft-je3rs
      @ft-je3rs 4 года назад +3

      Mountain Lover it was childlike skating that was undeveloped . I prefer maturity

  • @aalvarezero
    @aalvarezero 4 года назад +10

    The gold was you ❤️

  • @misspellings
    @misspellings 5 лет назад +10

    I was 12 years old when I saw this live on TV. She was my role model.

  • @aromaticchicken518
    @aromaticchicken518 4 года назад +6

    maybe the best triple loop Michelle Kwan ever did in competition 1:13

  • @kelvinxzhang
    @kelvinxzhang 3 года назад +20

    Presentations should’ve been all 6.0. It’s virtually impossible to beat this level of artistic and aesthetic superiority. ❤️

    • @theprinceoftides6836
      @theprinceoftides6836 3 года назад +5

      FnA, I think the judges lowballed her because they didn't wanna lose her. If Michelle won the gold here, she more than likely would have retired. All in all it all worked out in the end, she became the most decorated skater in the history of the sport. The aG.O.A T.

    • @Ardit-kq4bt
      @Ardit-kq4bt 2 года назад +1

      @@theprinceoftides6836 her technique was horrible, even though Im not a skater technique its very obvious that her lutz its a flutz and she has never done a triple triple combo...

    • @onetwocue
      @onetwocue Год назад

      ​@@Ardit-kq4btand lipysnsky has perfect technique!

  • @kevinhsu8184
    @kevinhsu8184 4 года назад +26

    I'm a big Michelle fan. I used to think she was robbed of the gold here. But then I had rewatched Tara's program years later and I felt Tara's program was technically much harder than Michelle's so perhaps she deserved to win. Then I watched this again and I feel Michelle should have won simply because in the 6.0 days, artistic mark is the tie breaker and I firmly believe Tara didn't deserve the 5.9s she gotten as her artistry wasn't there. Technically, she was definitely above Michelle. But her artistry wasn't. Hence at the end of the day, Michelle should have won the gold.

    • @kevinhsu8184
      @kevinhsu8184 4 года назад +1

      @Mountain Lover Well, we will have to agree to disagree then. :)

  • @jzmusizz-4057
    @jzmusizz-4057 8 лет назад +8

    I though it was the music..... needed something more to this skate....but an awesome performance by kwan

  • @とんぼ玉-h4q
    @とんぼ玉-h4q 8 месяцев назад +1

    綺麗なスケーティングで見とれてしまいました
    この人のスパイラル一番好き
    ステップやつなぎの部分すごく難しいことを簡単そうにしていてすご😮

  • @rv6914
    @rv6914 5 месяцев назад +1

    Tara had the technical but Michelle had the artistic. Both combined has Michelle for the win, well in my books it is.

  • @marygravs6316
    @marygravs6316 2 года назад +3

    WOW ANOTHER PERFECT PERFORMANCE WOW SIMPLY AMAZING GODBLESS PEACE AND LOVE ALWAYS TO YOU AND YOURS 😄...(*8*)

  • @snopesshop1903
    @snopesshop1903 5 лет назад +20

    That backwards camel spin should be worth as much as the triple loop combo

    • @Karolkid
      @Karolkid 2 года назад

      No, because if you invest a lot of time trying this spin, you will eventually be able to do it. While you can spend your whole life training figure skating and never achieve a triple-triple. I agree that I see that spin, and it's wonderful, artistic and creative, and difficult, but not to loose sight, jumps are much difficult

  • @JennasMusic76
    @JennasMusic76 3 года назад +11

    THis will forever be heartnreaking to me. Sure Tara was a show pony, and hit all her marks, but with Michelle there was an elegance that cannot be taught. She was a natutal talent, and it still breaks my heart she never won gold.

    • @maria_haarajoki
      @maria_haarajoki 3 года назад +5

      She may not have won the gold, but she was an artist on ice! I still watch her Salt Lake city 2002 gala performance (fields of gold) frequently. She was so classy, elegant and She will never be forgotten.

  • @stanley052380
    @stanley052380 5 лет назад +23

    The artistry in this program is hard to beat even with todays skaters.

    • @Jumthaibi
      @Jumthaibi 4 года назад +3

      stanley052380 today's skater have no artistry

    • @MsSlucyna
      @MsSlucyna 4 года назад +1

      Especially with today's skaters

    • @plumeria66
      @plumeria66 4 года назад +3

      Actually Russian skaters beat her easily in artistry and technical merit.

    • @automnejoy5308
      @automnejoy5308 4 года назад +8

      plumeria66 The Russians all have the same Eteri-driven look, and it's getting old. I don't call that artistry.

  • @ehrenjw
    @ehrenjw 5 лет назад +48

    Her genius was so under appreciated. If Michelle gets 5.9 for artistic how on earth do you give that to Tara too?

    • @erivera4928
      @erivera4928 5 лет назад +11

      exactly...tara benefited from skating 2nd to last. I remember watching it and saying, wth? 5.7 ok...tara 5.9/5.9...no way...

    • @ehrenjw
      @ehrenjw 4 года назад +4

      Mountain Lover youre delusional

    • @ehrenjw
      @ehrenjw 4 года назад +2

      Panchino Maldonado Mountain Lover clearly needs more than our help. Kwan is and will always be the People’s Champion. Her legacy transcends and dwarfs all of her contemporaries. And she continues to inspire and evolve. Some people are just so bitter and dead inside they can’t possibly be touched by her genius. And those of us that can, we are the lucky ones. And the majority.

  • @graceyim2976
    @graceyim2976 3 года назад +5

    Gold metal goes to Michelle Kwan

  • @chip7956
    @chip7956 6 лет назад +20

    I'm a huge Michelle Kwan fan. I was rooting for her to win the gold, but Tara out skated Michelle this night. Michelle did all 6 triples, and her artistry was superb, but she skated tentatively. Tara did two triple/triple combinations, and skated fearlessly. Tara deserved the gold medal.

    • @MezzoSeren
      @MezzoSeren 6 лет назад +8

      Chip 79 Tara's under-rotations would never have survived IJS. Her components were also hugely over scored- the 5.9 was a joke.

    • @chip7956
      @chip7956 6 лет назад +1

      MezzoSeren For years I was disappointed Michelle didn't win gold. I used to think she was robbed, but now I believe Tara beat her. Tara's jumps were sketchy, but I think the judges rewarded her for attempting the 3/3 combos. Todays judging may have caught the Under rotated jumps and flutz, but this was 20 years ago. It still breaks my heart that Michelle Kwan doesn't have an Olympic gold medal, because I think she's the greatest of all time and my all-time favorite figure skater.

    • @largeman
      @largeman 6 лет назад +5

      Why do you say Michelle did 6 triples? She did 7.

    • @L1623VP
      @L1623VP 6 лет назад +5

      Chip: I agree. Tara was clearly the deserved winner. There wasn't enough distance between Kwan and Lipinski artistically that Kwan could afford to pull back technically and yet, that's exactly what she did, expecting her reputation and art to pull her through, which didn't work.
      What's interesting is that Kim Yuna went into the 2014 Olympics with only 6 triples, as well. I remember thinking she was crazy to do that. Although a superior skater to Sotnikova, I feel like Kim put all her eggs in the artistic basket, too. I always say Kim lost the gold by one jump and Michelle lost by one rotation. If Michelle had done a triple-triple instead of a triple-double, I think the judges would have given her the nod, even though I still feel Tara was better overall.
      Funny too, how this same scenario played out in the 2018 games. I predicted a Lipinski type upset because there wasn't enough distance between Medvedeva and Zagitova artistically that Medvedeva could afford to pull back technically, and she did. The rest is history.

    • @erivera4928
      @erivera4928 5 лет назад +4

      @@L1623VP michelle and tara were not close whatsoever in artistry. The reason michelle lost was because she skated first. They held marks. But that 5.7 was not deserved.

  • @danielledenis5160
    @danielledenis5160 3 года назад +2

    She'll always be my favorite!

  • @donjoevillacorta2790
    @donjoevillacorta2790 4 года назад +9

    She is the Olympic gold a t least mine

  • @mzmiller52
    @mzmiller52 3 года назад +2

    No one compares to kwan.

  • @adrian123781
    @adrian123781 2 года назад +1

    I felt like history repeated itself during Sochi. High Technical elements wins over Artistry/presentation with 1 slight off balance from Michelle's Triple Flip and Yu Na Kim's Triple Lutz.

  • @donjoevillacorta2790
    @donjoevillacorta2790 3 года назад +2

    That was perfect performance. Still after all these years this is what god made a mistake on. Michelle kwan won the gold here. She was better than Tara way better.

  • @kimwaddell4218
    @kimwaddell4218 2 года назад +1

    Amazing

  • @lovethaiful
    @lovethaiful 7 лет назад +14

    もし3回転3回転を入れて、しかも滑走順位がリピンスキーの後であったならば金メダルは彼女がとった可能性が濃厚である。当時の採点方式ではそのようなことがはっきりと指摘できる。

    • @盆暗倉子
      @盆暗倉子 3 года назад +1

      クワンは3+3は入れれません。

    • @lovethaiful
      @lovethaiful 3 года назад

      @@盆暗倉子 2000年、2001年の世界選手権では、toeloop の 3回転3回転を成功させて優勝しています。良く調べてからコメントしなさい。

    • @盆暗倉子
      @盆暗倉子 3 года назад

      間違えました
      五輪ではしてない、
      でした。

    • @tadatada4098
      @tadatada4098 3 года назад +2

      トリプルトリプルを入れなくても、リピンスキーより滑走順が後なら、芸術点で抜いて1位になってたと思います。m(_ _)m

    • @taktshi3036
      @taktshi3036 3 года назад

      タラはpcs5.7が妥当

  • @taktshi3036
    @taktshi3036 4 года назад +2

    she is the best skater of mine

  • @mariuslives8250
    @mariuslives8250 3 года назад +3

    If she had won the gold here, i think she would've stayed until SLC to see if she would've joined Katerina as a double OG.

  • @MsKendra79
    @MsKendra79 4 года назад +33

    I still think she was robbed. It's hard to even watch knowing the outcome.

  • @inezmickel1274
    @inezmickel1274 3 года назад +4

    Michelle kwan was the real American sweetheart...not nancy karagan

  • @НатальяМ-щ5я
    @НатальяМ-щ5я 4 года назад +3

    Красиво! Умница!

  • @skatefan9495
    @skatefan9495 8 лет назад +45

    In retrospect, she had better skating skills, choreography and overall technique than Tara. Tara had a major flutz--her "lutz" was not on the outside edge at all--and her second 3loop on the 3-3 is borderline at best. Her 3-seq-3 combo was a little shaky as well. And Tara never should have seen a 5.9 on the second mark.

    • @HowsaBowsaYowsa
      @HowsaBowsaYowsa 8 лет назад +10

      Kwan was full of flutzes too.

    • @thesupremediva
      @thesupremediva 8 лет назад +20

      Tara should never have seen above a 5.6 on the second mark. She was a great jumper but Kwan was a complete skater.

    • @davidgo9297
      @davidgo9297 5 лет назад +2

      I second.

    • @echen1716
      @echen1716 5 лет назад

      Tara only flutz’d on her first lutz on combination. The second lutz was from outside edge

    • @erivera4928
      @erivera4928 5 лет назад +2

      @@HowsaBowsaYowsa Kwan was more of a flat edge, tara was much worse.

  • @inezmickel1274
    @inezmickel1274 3 года назад +2

    The camera was hella high class for 1998 ... wow

    • @flywings111
      @flywings111 3 года назад +1

      It's Japanese cameras. 👏

  • @Evigal
    @Evigal 5 лет назад +12

    This was for sure the best skate of that night. Judges robbed the gold from Michelle. Olympics will regret this for all time. The best skater never got that well deserved gold. We all know by now that Tara Lipinski's Lutz isn't on the right edge. We all know and see and feel that the presentatyion of Michelle's program is way better than Tara's. How come those 5 judges didn't see it???

    • @auntiechercher4266
      @auntiechercher4266 5 лет назад +4

      What you are saying is correct. But Tara's speed and completeness with her movements . . . including her improved artistry as well as her higher technical difficultly and skating her program later is what sealed it all. In retrospect, Michelle's jumps were better technically as well as her moves, but Tara's speed and eye popping Triple/Triple made it go her way. Another day and a different performance from each and it may have gone differently.

    • @venuzmodeling
      @venuzmodeling 5 лет назад +4

      Michelle’s Lutz wasn’t on the right edge either

    • @skatefan9495
      @skatefan9495 4 года назад

      @@venuzmodeling She didn't have the egregious flutz that Tara did.

    • @auntiechercher4266
      @auntiechercher4266 2 года назад +2

      @@TT-ee4qp Wrong! In this performance Tara didn't just jump and run. Her artistry was improved and she was in sync with the music. Her presentation matched Kwan in THIS competition and that is PART of the reason why she won!

    • @auntiechercher4266
      @auntiechercher4266 2 года назад

      @@TT-ee4qp In this competition, Tara's artistic quality was superior. There is no point in talking about if she didn't have a certain aspect because she had it all and enough to win that night! So take your opinions and shove it!!😤😫😡

  • @stephenfletcher6801
    @stephenfletcher6801 5 лет назад +2

    I have never ice skated in my life, but have always been a passionate figure skating fan and never miss it on tv. Always loved Kwan and Lapinski and was so taken with excitement of Olympics. When Michelle skated I thought she had it in the bag, but then when Tara skated my immediate thought was that she would win Gold. In my opinion, Tara simply out-skated her that night....plus the sheer joy on Tara’s face through her entire performance, I believe, helped her scores. Regardless, both women are iconic in US figure skating and we were blessed to have them.

    • @erivera4928
      @erivera4928 5 лет назад +3

      tara should've finished 2nd. Especially by the new system, since she underrotated 2 jumps. I think tara is a good actress. that run she did at the end gave her the extra edge in my opinion. Also, had they skated in the order they skated to at nationals, I dont think you would have seen 5.7 for michelle. I think they would've given a few 6.0s also. Placement was everything back then. Under the new system, michelle would've beaten tara easily.

    • @venuzmodeling
      @venuzmodeling 5 лет назад

      E Rivera this wasn’t the new system and the right skater won

  • @existenceconstellation2288
    @existenceconstellation2288 4 года назад +1

    Very talented dancer beautifull 😍👀👻💖👍💞💝💗💘💜💛💚💖

  • @alfabd3138
    @alfabd3138 2 года назад +1

    какая молодец круто откатала

  • @couch.patati-patata
    @couch.patati-patata 3 года назад +1

    It feels like the Colours of the wind.

  • @ИринаЕлисеева-щ5ф
    @ИринаЕлисеева-щ5ф 5 лет назад +9

    Как изменилось сейчас женское катание.

  • @hirosoma
    @hirosoma 8 лет назад +13

    this situation is what validates the current judging system. I personally prefer the old 6.0 system.

    • @MsJubjubbird
      @MsJubjubbird 7 лет назад +3

      fixing and overscoring and political judging can and most probably will occur under any scoring system in which the sport is "judged". Especially if there is an artistic component. Like in hockey you can see if the ball/puck went in the goal and swimming a stopwatch tells you who hit the boards first. But it's the judge's discretion to allow/disallow and grade elements- be they out of 6 or -3/+3 and even more leeway is given when the sport adds components scores. It happened here, it happened in Salt Lake City, it happened in Sochi and its happened in lot of more minor competitions- be they under the old or new system. It's very political and the nature of the sport allows for it.

  • @kylerobin6718
    @kylerobin6718 3 года назад +6

    Michelle’s technical difficulty stayed largely the same over the years. Tara was a former US and World Champ who threw a 3L-3L combo in the LP of Nagano - still a combo so difficult it is rarely performed. Plus - a 3S Euler 3T combo STILL used. Tara was artistic and a technical master. All but two judges put her first-Tara deserved Gold in 98 and Michelle should’ve incorporated 3-3 combos after that and she didn’t. It left her vulnerable-and it ultimately cost her.

    • @pengguo5234
      @pengguo5234 2 года назад +2

      i love MK so much, but Tara's long program was better.

    • @Karolkid
      @Karolkid 2 года назад +1

      @Sportsman Pariente in my opinion the biggest problem with this score is that they gave Tara 5.8 and 5.9 in artistic while only 5.9 to Michelle.

  • @larrypascua8777
    @larrypascua8777 4 года назад +1

    Yes, Still THE BEST SKATE OF THE NIGHT.. TARAHS WAS JUST JUMPS.

  • @juanantoniomoreno3409
    @juanantoniomoreno3409 7 лет назад +4

    I wonder what they were chatting about during K&C. I think Michelle was emotional because *she knew* that was not her best.

    • @juanantoniomoreno3409
      @juanantoniomoreno3409 7 лет назад

      I think she was in emotional pain.

    • @tyboogie1982
      @tyboogie1982 7 лет назад +3

      Juan Antonio Moreno No, that was tears of joy and relief.

    • @erivera4928
      @erivera4928 5 лет назад +2

      no she was crying because she was overjoyed that she did well. I mean anyone could pick up on that lol.

  • @TheSienna29
    @TheSienna29 6 лет назад +5

    Lyra Angelica lacks the drama an Olympic program should have. Michelle did not need to extend herself artistically. Had she skated something more difficult like Taj Mahal she would have blown Tara out of the water in the LP&won the gold.

  • @Hjalmar_an_Craite
    @Hjalmar_an_Craite 7 лет назад +21

    Gold medal should have been Michelle's.

  • @minavamp2811
    @minavamp2811 10 месяцев назад +1

    the triple flip was the downfall for her in both Olympics. her triple flip here she landed shaky. had she landed perfectly she might have won the gold here. had she landed the triple flip perfectly in 2002 Olympics, she would have won the gold for sure.

  • @douglaswright5948
    @douglaswright5948 3 года назад +2

    I think she thought this was "Gold" which might explain not being able to hold back her tears during the ceremony.

  • @bethanycook8430
    @bethanycook8430 8 месяцев назад +1

    She should have won!

  • @michaeljj43
    @michaeljj43 5 лет назад +9

    a beautiful skate from michelle. but the thing that i admire so much about tara's skate…she had a long wait…her greatest rival skated way before her…and after nationals michelle got perfect sixes and tara had that trouble in the short program. so for tara to come out…skate with so much speed…that triple loop triple loop combination…she was clearly the winner. and this whole flutzing thing is just bullshit. skaters have been doing that for years. tara, in my book, deserved the gold medal.

  • @Ирина-г7у6ш
    @Ирина-г7у6ш 3 года назад +3

    История повторится ровно через 20лет..

  • @KevaFlores
    @KevaFlores 10 месяцев назад

    To me Tara had so much joy and passion but this was a beautiful skate too! Olympic gold was always just out of reach for Michelle.

  • @aleksandralimassol6050
    @aleksandralimassol6050 5 лет назад +2

    😍💐💐💐

  • @koolaidnhemlock
    @koolaidnhemlock 3 года назад +1

    she stopped crying real quick when she saw those 5.7s

  • @donjoevillacorta2790
    @donjoevillacorta2790 3 года назад +6

    I still cannot believe this did not received a gold medal This gold performance is perfection on all its course and you can’t even compare it to that robotic lame performance by Tara lipinski. Kwan was robbed

  • @koolaidnhemlock
    @koolaidnhemlock 4 года назад +6

    she stopped crying real quick when she saw those 5.7's... she knew then, she was beat. The Olympics always reward the most technically difficult programs. Lipinski deserved the win

  • @pomarekaire1344
    @pomarekaire1344 5 лет назад +7

    Yes she should've come first, then been followed by Irina.

  • @sebaslasalle7598
    @sebaslasalle7598 3 года назад +4

    Really awesome but Lipinski's program was much difficult than the Michelle was :(

    • @sassy9182
      @sassy9182 3 года назад +4

      Michelle had the artistic edge over Tara. Tara was a jumping bean and didn't have the maturity Michelle had. Michelle should've won the gold in my opinion.

  • @AllenJones-w3p
    @AllenJones-w3p 25 дней назад

    A lot of diehard Kwan fans think Michelle should've won Olympic gold. WHAT'S WRONG WITH SILVER?!?

  • @greenpuffle
    @greenpuffle 6 лет назад +3

    She was gorgeous. Most well rounded skater that night. This program was what let her down, I believe, from getting higher marks. It was kind of a lackluster program and the dress unfortunately gives me commitment questions too. It would have been gorgeous as a classic all white or a deeper blue to pop on the ice.

  • @jjsmith4829
    @jjsmith4829 2 года назад +1

    saw tara lipinski's short program yesterday and what struck me was tara's jumps are small: she barely gets off the ground and the distance she covers is short. watching michelle now her jumps are not very impressive either. her jumps are not very good either. if michelle had done one more triple jump she would have won.

  • @nipaipo36100
    @nipaipo36100 3 года назад +1

    5.7 and 5.9 1st.

  • @Luuucas0
    @Luuucas0 8 лет назад +73

    the stolen gold from michelle kwan still makes me upset

    • @sonyaballo4282
      @sonyaballo4282 7 лет назад +20

      This was a beautiful program but Michelle thought the gold was hers before she even got to Nagano. Her marks were inflated at the US Nationals and she expected the same here. She was inflated in the short program, Tara won that too. Her dad told her that all she had to do was stay standing and the gold was hers. She didn't think that she had to improve technically. She skated an easier program and did so cautiously. She won a Silver medal and didn't earn anything more than that on that night. Sorry folks, that is the truth. An Olympic silver medal is something to be very proud of but when people keep telling you, the gold, im sure it was difficult to digest.

    • @L1623VP
      @L1623VP 7 лет назад +5

      It was very much the same with Patrick Chan in the 2014 Olympics. He was so outrageously over-scored throughout his skating career, that he felt all he needed to do was show up at competitions to earn the gold. Sadly, he was right most of the time. The worst example was the 2013 World Championships before the 2014 Olympics, where Chan fell three times in the long program and STILL won in a judging decision that's highly controversial, even today. The problem is that Chan believed his own press and all the people around him who said "yes" to everything, about how "fabulous" he was and that his artistry was more than enough. So, he never pushed himself to be any better technically because he'd become so used to winning with highly flawed programs for years. He didn't have to work any harder, so he didn't. I'd never seen him skate two clean programs back-to-back. Of course, his artistry wasn't enough at the Sochi Games when his technique fell apart so disastrously that even the judges couldn't hold him up with inflated marks anymore. Even so, he ended up with a silver medal that should have been a bronze. When judges consistently over-score skaters, they don't do them any favors because it gives them a false sense of security that future victories are assured based solely on their reputations, and that there is no real need to improve their skills, even while there are younger and more athletic skaters coming up behind them...as was the case with Chan. Now, he can't even begin to compete technically against skaters like Yuzuru Hanyu, Shoma Uno and Nathan Chen, and has been quickly left behind.

    • @sonyaballo4282
      @sonyaballo4282 7 лет назад +1

      Well definitely I agree Chan had that bad attitude that he could show up and win and didn't learn to compete strongly. But Chan did have better skating skills than everyone, I think most in the skating world would agree but he is now challenging himself on jumps too but it might be too late. But Dennis Tan should have won 2013 worlds, that was so screwed up. And Patrick in that interview after didn't even say I could have done better, his attitude was too arrogant and it kept him down really. Yuzuru challenged himself, quad loop, Patrick has a quad salchow but Patrick jus tcant compete. Best skater in artistry and skill but he is not a good competitor. needs sports psychologist

    • @KrystyneY
      @KrystyneY 6 лет назад +10

      I know nothing about skating, but I just watched the two performances back to back, and I really enjoyed Michelle much more. Her jumps were higher, and she just seemed more graceful.

    • @seidenweberin
      @seidenweberin 6 лет назад +9

      Even after 20 years I prefer Ms Kwans graceful and elegant performance.

  • @elainedejulio4174
    @elainedejulio4174 8 лет назад +11

    such a shame that she didn't get the gold. I felt she skated better than Tara. I'm convinced the Olympic committee/judges have something against her

    • @MsJubjubbird
      @MsJubjubbird 7 лет назад +5

      I think more that the ISU felt Tara was good for selling the sport. It was repeated with Lipnitskaya in Sochi- the cute kid on debut taking on the pros and winning both the competitions and people's hearts with her cuteness. Plus little kids doing harder ticks, even if done badly, makes people go awww. Only thing was Julia didn't deliver the goods. The scoring is always political and based on who the ISU thinks ells the sport

    • @sandyvale1038
      @sandyvale1038 7 лет назад

      LOL

    • @Karlinberlin1
      @Karlinberlin1 7 лет назад +10

      Yeah, that junior beauty pageant stuff has ruined the sport. These gawky girls with bad technique and posture getting medals because they are so young. Not Tara's doing but this result set the precedent for the mess we have today. Will never happen but Ralph Aratunian is right - senior ladies should begin at 18.

  • @ЛарисаПлатонова-г4н

    Why does she cry?

  • @RemySimon-ph9ij
    @RemySimon-ph9ij 5 месяцев назад

    Michelle deserve GOLD
    She is truly golden! A 6 times NationaUS champion.👏⛸️⛸️♥️💕