@@phenix4195 let him pass? he may not have fought him on the overtake but Nico did get pass him going that fast and breaking in time to make the chicane.
When in a slipstream, there’s 0 air going into the radiators to cool the car, so that combined with the fact that it’s spinning at it’s highest RPM will very quickly overheat the engine.
@@lucasabdo4260 Drivers complain about the tyres, how they prevent them from pushing flat-out, whereas cars’ construction itself is an obstacle in doing that.
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Consider also that they are packaging everything as tight as possible for each race, sometimes too tight causing too much overheat.
His engine after the Pothole incident in this race was also an Old one from the Pool, Ferrari were trying to minimize the penalties, still impressive he reached such speeds, but this year I think Mercedes will take the highspeed record considering how fast their car appears to be on the straights (ex : BAKU this year)
Merc engine kind a good accelaration but doesn't have good top speed. Redbull were incredible, with only drs they could clocked at 345-350 kmh speed. Let's see
@@asherjoseph4377 not because of short shifting, merc uses shorter gearbox ratios, they choose accelaration. Ferrari kind a does that too. Teams only 2 or 3 times in a season can change their gear ratios, so they usually stick with shorter gear ratios.
imagine youre driving 349 kmh and youre still getting overtaken..
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Just to give context, 366kph is also over 100m per second ! (101.6 m/s) (for non-metric people, this is over 3937,00787 inches per 1/3600th of an hour, or 604 800 furlongs per fortnight.)
I require my measurements in cheeseburgers per bald eagles
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@@28kboney over a football field a second, so roughly 3600 an hour.
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@@gary5852 considering the average lifespan of a bald eagle is around 20 years, and the diameter of a burger bun around 5in or 12,7cm, it would mean a speed at around 504907086614 cheeseburgers per bald eagle.
I wish the engine rules were different. The rules reduce the fuel flow rate starting from 10K to 15K rpm. That’s why it is rare for the engine to go anywhere near 15K RPM. Instead they hover around 7-12K, with the MGU units assisting the engine. The engine is essentially starved of fuel all the time. It’s like food rationing while running to do repeats of 100 meter sprints for 1.5 hours.
Yeah and then imagine on top of all that, the engines are required to last the distance of several GPs as well as practice sessions, collisions etc and that’s before we look at the demands on individual major components within the engines themselves and transmission systems.
@@kwl189 Good point. This powerunit parts limit per season is essentially a redundant regulation. They already have a overall cost-cap per team. The team should be able to just manage their cost to run the team according to the full budget available.
@ that’s true. It would make for compelling watching if a team decides to go all out in their power units and figurations and sacrificed reliability or played around the idea of trade offs for performance. Maybe they push harder at some circuits favourable for them and gamble on a big result giving them a leg up in the constructors championship.
@@kwl189 F1 has been accumulating rules like the way we accumulated junk in the basement of the house. Its time they clean out the rulebook and update them so they are more relevant.
@DanielAustin-q3k I know; picture gunning down Mulsanne at night, pushing +370 in a 962 and a XJR-9 and C9 catch up and pull away confidently, duking it out through the Mulsanne Kink; there's nothing that could match that. Then there's the WM P-88, with an official 407 kph recorded highest speed, though many said it was ~420 kph capable, alledgedly reaching such speeds in an external test.
Not made to be low drag or a good aero package. Just the lack of budget and know how to some extent means their car can’t create as much down force as the top teams. So in a low drag set up, the lower teams can be as fast if not faster on the straights and the opposite is true through the corners.
Man, thanks for this video. Your passion for this sport is awesome! I can't watch these videos from España and I really appreciate the work you put into them. A pleasure to see you pace.
@tvd.imhoses8395 yes but he used the k1 button some seconds before he used Drs k1/k2 light green is different from the drs light even they are on the same Rpm dashboard
Nah, they're just too heavy and clumsy at low-speed and medium-speed corners. Sure, they'll beat the 2020 cars at some tracks (2024 cars are doing the same with the 2021 ones), but they won't be faster overall
Maybe on some reprofiled or resurfaced tracks. On tracks that have remained the same from 2020-2025, I'd expect the 2020 cars to be quicker. Especially pre-Monza ones, before the party mode ban
Don't let this distract you from the fact that my favourite driver, Gerhard Berger, hit an alleged top speed of 370km/h whilst practicing for the 1984 Italian GP. This makes it one of the highest non-DRS assisted speed ever hit by a F1 car.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 "And in the V10 era, easily 22-23 rpm." No reason to spread misinformation when the truth is still impressive. 2006 season V8's could hit just above 20k, V10's didn't get up to that, about 19K from 2002-2005. The V8's revved higher (obviously), but the V10's sounded like a lot more.
@@TriggernlfrlThese 20k rpm don't mean anything, the F1 could have a similar sound with just 13k rpm, if the cylinder head pins were divided for uniform firing the sound would be loud and smooth like the Aspirated ones
I mean Seb in Monza 2019 reached 367 I believe with a slipstream so have him in the same situation then Sainz in 2023 in a drs train then I easily see 380
2019 Ferrari engine wasn't illegal. You clowns need to stop spreading this false information. Ferrari was exploiting a loophole in the rulebook but it was never illegal. Binotto later said in an interview that Ferrari was cleverly operating in the grey area of the rules but not outside the rules.
380 km/h is the highest theoretical speed limit can achieved by F1 car on track. Back on 2005 Jacques Villeneuve recording 375 km/h by telemetry data on his car and also Williams showing data Valtteri Bottas hitting 378 km/h at BakuGP 2016
I think the 2024 cars are too draggy nonetheless, we never saw 360kph+ in these days... i miss the 2014-2016 cars, specially williams cars those were rocketships in straights (yeah, i know, they were super slow on the corners, but i love those cars)
@@Jvdzzz For revs the volume per cylinder matters. So in theory the V6 should be able to rev even higher than the V10, but the rev limit was put in place to avoid exploding engines that we did see in earlier years, but also as a cost cutting measure. Cosworth was able to do over 20k rpm in 2006 with their 2.4 liter V8. So with extreme materials the current engines should be able to top that given that they have 266 cc/cylinder compared to the 300cc/cylinder of the 2006 V8. Today we rarely see someone grenading an engine totally.
The Vegas Sainz clip is almost exactly what caused Gasly's retirement this weekend, an overheat from overspeed with DRS behind Tsunoda. Alpine engineers could do with subbing to this channel...
honestly yeah. If F1 changed the engine regs so the V6's were getting up to the 15/16k rpm range they'd sing. Get the mad engineers to get it up to 20k and it would scream
How much differently (better, louder) the F1 cars of the hybrid era would sound if they were capable to constantly run up to the limit of the 15.000 rpm....
@@darshang1262 historically cars going at 366 KM/h only had one or two successful overtakes out of 4 attempts, I believe but my comment was meant more as tongue in cheek. Comedic relief if you will ;) :P
366km/h RPM
Ferrari 2023 - 12977rpm, Ferrari 2018 - 13052rpm
Force India 2018 - 13310rpm
Renault 2018 - 12787rpm
Such a gearing difference
real
2016 Azerbaijan GP, Valtteri Bottas, Williams, 378 km/h
@@mustafashulqamy1844 That 378 number wasn't true. A journalist actually asked Williams about this and they've confirmed it. Bottas hit 371km/h.
@yelistener Oh. Who's the fastest then? Was it also Bottas or did someone else go faster than 371?
Are you going to tell us the context or what? When did the Merc do that in 2018?
To be able to hit 366, overtake Gasly, brake without locking and make the chicane at Monza is actually nuts
Great move by Hulkenberg
he actually did lock his right front if you notice carefully
@@LegendaryFusions so slightly it doesn't counts
Yeah but Gasly let him pass
@@phenix4195 let him pass? he may not have fought him on the overtake but Nico did get pass him going that fast and breaking in time to make the chicane.
the Hulk is way better than people give him credit for.
there's a reason max likes the guy.
I can hardly believe how the drivers need to be careful with engine temperatures, even in relatively chilly, cold conditions like in Vegas.
Mostly Ferrari though. They struggled with engine/brake temps in Singapore 23 and Bahrain, Mexico 24 with Charles too.
@@askeladden450 Mercedes in this year’s Bahrain were also struggling with engine temps, even though the air temperature was low.
When in a slipstream, there’s 0 air going into the radiators to cool the car, so that combined with the fact that it’s spinning at it’s highest RPM will very quickly overheat the engine.
@@lucasabdo4260 Drivers complain about the tyres, how they prevent them from pushing flat-out, whereas cars’ construction itself is an obstacle in doing that.
Consider also that they are packaging everything as tight as possible for each race, sometimes too tight causing too much overheat.
His engine after the Pothole incident in this race was also an Old one from the Pool, Ferrari were trying to minimize the penalties, still impressive he reached such speeds, but this year I think Mercedes will take the highspeed record considering how fast their car appears to be on the straights (ex : BAKU this year)
Merc engine kind a good accelaration but doesn't have good top speed. Redbull were incredible, with only drs they could clocked at 345-350 kmh speed. Let's see
Probably because short shiftting that makes faster accel?
@@asherjoseph4377 not because of short shifting, merc uses shorter gearbox ratios, they choose accelaration. Ferrari kind a does that too. Teams only 2 or 3 times in a season can change their gear ratios, so they usually stick with shorter gear ratios.
Williams will do it. They have the same engine but their downforce sucks so they get higher top speeds lol
Thanks for the recap! I remember now, Sainz got a penalty because the manhole cap destroyed his car. The most ridiculous FIA decision among many. lol😅
imagine youre driving 349 kmh and youre still getting overtaken..
Just to give context, 366kph is also over 100m per second ! (101.6 m/s)
(for non-metric people, this is over 3937,00787 inches per 1/3600th of an hour, or 604 800 furlongs per fortnight.)
Uh… how many gerbil nostrils is it? Or camel kneecap diameters? I’m confused… 😁
what about football fields per hour, the most important metric
I require my measurements in cheeseburgers per bald eagles
@@28kboney over a football field a second, so roughly 3600 an hour.
@@gary5852 considering the average lifespan of a bald eagle is around 20 years, and the diameter of a burger bun around 5in or 12,7cm, it would mean a speed at around 504907086614 cheeseburgers per bald eagle.
I wish the engine rules were different. The rules reduce the fuel flow rate starting from 10K to 15K rpm.
That’s why it is rare for the engine to go anywhere near 15K RPM. Instead they hover around 7-12K, with the MGU units assisting the engine.
The engine is essentially starved of fuel all the time. It’s like food rationing while running to do repeats of 100 meter sprints for 1.5 hours.
literally engine socialism.
Yeah and then imagine on top of all that, the engines are required to last the distance of several GPs as well as practice sessions, collisions etc and that’s before we look at the demands on individual major components within the engines themselves and transmission systems.
@@kwl189 Good point. This powerunit parts limit per season is essentially a redundant regulation. They already have a overall cost-cap per team. The team should be able to just manage their cost to run the team according to the full budget available.
@ that’s true. It would make for compelling watching if a team decides to go all out in their power units and figurations and sacrificed reliability or played around the idea of trade offs for performance. Maybe they push harder at some circuits favourable for them and gamble on a big result giving them a leg up in the constructors championship.
@@kwl189 F1 has been accumulating rules like the way we accumulated junk in the basement of the house. Its time they clean out the rulebook and update them so they are more relevant.
Imagine being hunted down at 366 kph in the heaviest downforce racing series on the world, just 34 kph shy of the magic 400 kph barrier. Nuts.
Back in the late 80s, le mans cars used to go over 400kmh
@DanielAustin-q3k I know; picture gunning down Mulsanne at night, pushing +370 in a 962 and a XJR-9 and C9 catch up and pull away confidently, duking it out through the Mulsanne Kink; there's nothing that could match that.
Then there's the WM P-88, with an official 407 kph recorded highest speed, though many said it was ~420 kph capable, alledgedly reaching such speeds in an external test.
I was not expecting a renault engine in this video.
Their cars are made to be low drag more than it is their engines being amazing. Even then though they’re not far behind in raw horsepower and torque.
their engines are actually the worst but their aero package is very good
Not made to be low drag or a good aero package. Just the lack of budget and know how to some extent means their car can’t create as much down force as the top teams. So in a low drag set up, the lower teams can be as fast if not faster on the straights and the opposite is true through the corners.
they've been up there as far as power is concerned but post freeze they focused on the wrong things in rnd and it cost them alot
That's 227 mph for our liberty lovers
wtf is a kilometer
Burgers per football field
@@zacknewton1064The only way of measuring that makes sense.
@@zacknewton1064if its a joke its not funny if its serious its serious
Km are for gays
2:20 that's a monster charging at you, real intimidating
Plot-Twist: The UI can only show a max speed of 366km/h
Why not more than that
3.6 roentgen
@@Porpous666 "not great, not bad"
@@asrafulemon2004 any more would have caused speedinteger overflow
whats that @@ilbroducciore
Man, thanks for this video. Your passion for this sport is awesome! I can't watch these videos from España and I really appreciate the work you put into them. A pleasure to see you pace.
0:10 he used K1(overtake button) and you can see to the green light on RPM
Thats a drs green light if he use both there will be 2 light
@tvd.imhoses8395 yes but he used the k1 button some seconds before he used Drs k1/k2 light green is different from the drs light even they are on the same Rpm dashboard
Next year car I think might be the new benchmark of fastest f1 car of all time (passing 2020 f1 car)
Nah, they're just too heavy and clumsy at low-speed and medium-speed corners. Sure, they'll beat the 2020 cars at some tracks (2024 cars are doing the same with the 2021 ones), but they won't be faster overall
They will for sure
If weather conditions are good and not too much talent and technical issues, we might get track records too
Maybe on some reprofiled or resurfaced tracks. On tracks that have remained the same from 2020-2025, I'd expect the 2020 cars to be quicker. Especially pre-Monza ones, before the party mode ban
Many tracks have been resurfaced since 2020 with grippier tarmac, which makes the faster 2024/2025 lap times unrepresentative.
Don't let this distract you from the fact that my favourite driver, Gerhard Berger, hit an alleged top speed of 370km/h whilst practicing for the 1984 Italian GP. This makes it one of the highest non-DRS assisted speed ever hit by a F1 car.
cars were lighter and it was peak turbo era
McLaren hit 371 in 2005 at Monza, I believe.
If not even in 2016 F1 detected the 378kph declared by Williams, who will say in 84 when not even a GPS measurement system had yet
@@antonkirilenko3116 that's probably the true highest top speed because those V10 cars were monsters!
@@israeljoao5532that was with DRS tho.
13k rpm sounds crazy tho
Pretty lame compared to 20k of the old days....
Dude, 11 years ago, cars used to hit 18000 rpm at the end of each straight lines.
And in the V10 era, easily 22-23 rpm.
Like a vacuum cleaner that is about to burst into flames
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 "And in the V10 era, easily 22-23 rpm."
No reason to spread misinformation when the truth is still impressive.
2006 season V8's could hit just above 20k, V10's didn't get up to that, about 19K from 2002-2005.
The V8's revved higher (obviously), but the V10's sounded like a lot more.
@@TriggernlfrlThese 20k rpm don't mean anything, the F1 could have a similar sound with just 13k rpm, if the cylinder head pins were divided for uniform firing the sound would be loud and smooth like the Aspirated ones
Man imagine what top speed the illegal 2019 Ferrari engine would’ve had in the Las Vegas straight
I mean Seb in Monza 2019 reached 367 I believe with a slipstream so have him in the same situation then Sainz in 2023 in a drs train then I easily see 380
2019 Ferrari engine wasn't illegal. You clowns need to stop spreading this false information. Ferrari was exploiting a loophole in the rulebook but it was never illegal. Binotto later said in an interview that Ferrari was cleverly operating in the grey area of the rules but not outside the rules.
@@horsepower523 interesting...
Love the channel. Great work
Im impressed that renault SHITBOX didnt fell apart after reaching that speed
Before any smartass comes in: Drivers had to manage fuel, temperatures, boost and tyres since day 1, this is nothing new.
2:18 with the quality of the footage and how steady the ferrari is it just looks like it's edited in, it's just approaching... menacingly
380 km/h is the highest theoretical speed limit can achieved by F1 car on track. Back on 2005 Jacques Villeneuve recording 375 km/h by telemetry data on his car and also Williams showing data Valtteri Bottas hitting 378 km/h at BakuGP 2016
There was a time when 360-365km/h where achieved by many without DRS, slipstream etc. just pure normal pace with Monza race set-up
For my fellow Americans that’s about 227 bald eagles
Hartley weaving all over the road like it’s the last lap of a Formula Ford race.
Can we go over Bottas' astonishing 234mph (376 kph) top speed
1:19 time travel
Imagine the 2019 Ferrari on that straight in Las Vegas😳
Will hit 380 km/h
I think the 2024 cars are too draggy nonetheless, we never saw 360kph+ in these days... i miss the 2014-2016 cars, specially williams cars those were rocketships in straights (yeah, i know, they were super slow on the corners, but i love those cars)
Mid 2000s cars could reach 350kph without battery and DRS
0:19
Wow! So fast! And also…. 12.950RPM! Close to 13.000RPM.
When you think of the V10, and early V8 days reaching ~ 19 000 RPM, 13 000 doesn’t look impressive 😅
For a tiny turbocharged v6 that's really impressive@@10MasterM
@@10MasterM comparing a V10 to a tiny V6 is a little unfair, although they can rev a little higher
@@10MasterM yeh but we have to remember these are 1.6L V6's compared to 3L V10's
@@Jvdzzz For revs the volume per cylinder matters. So in theory the V6 should be able to rev even higher than the V10, but the rev limit was put in place to avoid exploding engines that we did see in earlier years, but also as a cost cutting measure. Cosworth was able to do over 20k rpm in 2006 with their 2.4 liter V8.
So with extreme materials the current engines should be able to top that given that they have 266 cc/cylinder compared to the 300cc/cylinder of the 2006 V8.
Today we rarely see someone grenading an engine totally.
These videos are amazing!!!!
At 366 km/h you're covering 102 meters per second. Imagine doing a 100m sprint in less than 1 second. Incredible speed.
I wish you didn't put the captions in huge opaque box in the middle of the screen and leave them on for sooo long.
The Vegas Sainz clip is almost exactly what caused Gasly's retirement this weekend, an overheat from overspeed with DRS behind Tsunoda. Alpine engineers could do with subbing to this channel...
Everybody who hates the V6, obviously never heard them sing at 13k and beyond. It's amazing the impact of this tiny engine.
I like V6 more than V10 and V8. Only V12 sound better for me.
Imagine if fuel flow limits didn't exist. These engines would sound better than the 80s turbo cars.
@@456MrPeople imo they already do
wtf is wrong with u a 20k V8 or V10 sounds 1000x better than a V6@@carsismyaddiction6919
honestly yeah. If F1 changed the engine regs so the V6's were getting up to the 15/16k rpm range they'd sing. Get the mad engineers to get it up to 20k and it would scream
gotta thank the FIA for allowing them to get this instead of a potential P2 in the WCC
Oh my god, the video of 2021 vs 2024 was deleted again. Poor yelistener!
F1 insta account be like : no man 350.5 is the highest speed hit in Las Vegas.
I wonder if these v6s would sound good if they reached 20,000 rpm like the v10s
Funny facts didnt expect hulkenberg there and definitly not with a renault engjne
How much differently (better, louder) the F1 cars of the hybrid era would sound if they were capable to constantly run up to the limit of the 15.000 rpm....
0:12 Love playing this part on 2x speed
What happened to Sergio in 2016 371 kph 231 mph at Mexico
Read the title again
What was the topspeed of 2024 so far?
To think that both Gasly and Hulkenberg had DRS but Hulk still went around 20 kph faster...that Renault engine is nothing but a beast 😧
Imagine how quick they could go down the strip if the cars didn’t weigh the same as a house
man bullying someone into a lockup is boss af
Imagine v10 sound engine the long straight in las vegas?
The 2018 pink car could’ve been fighting for second consistently at the hands of the right driver.
Is 366 km/h Vmax with the current setup ? or can they theoretically go faster without modifying ?
They could theoretically go faster under the very ideal condition
If i'm not mistaken, in mexico 2016 someone reached 370km/h
Sergio Perez, before outbraking himself and missing the chicane, but he DID hit 370...
when the speed get to 360, at the beginning of the speedo we can see black
Bro post a video about alex albon hitting 369kmph this time around in las Vegas gp 2024
whats interesting is the rpm at which they hot the 366 as well
Doesn’t count, he got a boost from an explosive sewer grate
Tell about pierre 's lao at las vegas
Genuine question, how do engine braking work? I researched avout it but I still don't get it. I hope you guys can explain it to me 😂
Imagine take some action to cool down the engine temperature and air temperature was near to 0° Celsius degrees xD
Masterclass.
Someone could make a deal to try to break the speed record
Las Vegas is basically Hockenheim
In the first 3 clips when they go over 360km/h it slightly breaks the graphic. Starts twisting the whole speed bar rather than extending further
Bros are going to fast!
best f1 channel!
he could reach in the mid 370s or higher if the engine have a bit more cooling
This clearly show that cars in front of sainz also running higher then 366.....even getting 366 sains unable to overtake them....
yelistener so miserable that when he is exposed, he deletes the video LMFAO
Sainz hit 366 and still couldn't overtake smh
So it will be impossible to have f1 car in Le Mans?
V6 F1 engines: Sorry böss i hit 13k rpm im overheating already.
Pre-V6 F1 engines: I can do this all day.
joke
80s turbo engines = Granades
So is the car infront not very near the same all be it but for 2-3k
FERRARI POWER!
Maybe this year the top speed will be even higher?) I thought baku had the longest straight in the calendar
Albon hit 369 in Las Vegas this year
Even going faster , 10 second penalty to Ocon
Since 2018 :)
maybe he was just squeezing on the gas pedal a little harder
All 3 engines including Renault hit that top speed… what are Alpine complaining about lol ?
V10 cars had this without pressing a button lol
Should be quite a bit faster with the new regulations.
his highest speed
Not the only thing Sainz hit that weekend 🙄
Overheating from 13k RPM in this day and age, really? What's that engine made out of, chocolate?
It’s the amount of boost being pumped into because of the turbo.
Could have shown Bottas world record
😮
MotoGP top speed 366km/h... On 2 wheels...
He almost blow ujp the engine :D
366 and then still unable to overtake. 😗
Driver in front also had tow and DRS so yeah
The car in front had DRS
@@darshang1262 historically cars going at 366 KM/h only had one or two successful overtakes out of 4 attempts, I believe but my comment was meant more as tongue in cheek. Comedic relief if you will ;)
:P
moar horsepower moar rpm want ferrari 2019 engine that was a fuking bullet down the straight
If your amarican its 227 mph
And still no overtake
I wonder waht speeds we could have accieved if there were no chicanes in monza
maybe overheat and turn off the car lol.
Too short gears
Williams was faster 369km/h
F1 should race at an oval/semi oval track
Here after gasly engine exploded After taking a tow like sainz
Bottas 371
GET RID OF KAREEN CHANDOOOK .............. HE'S HOPELESS
I mean the Porsche went above 370km/h even without tow
I mean the jesko went above 500km/h even without tow
@@TestAcc-lu5cn Excuse me im talking about race car here😑
@@Ilovecars-wd6xu yeah a completely different kind of racercar which is completely irrelevant to the discussion.
@@ihavewaited90daystochangem51 then can I say the devel sixteen can do more than 550km/h without tow?
@@Ilovecars-wd6xu the devel sixteen can't do anything because it's vaporware