US Army Combat Veteran Reacts to Warhammer 40k Death Korps of Krieg
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- I checked out the Warhammer 40,000 film Death Korps of Krieg. In the finest Warhammer 40k traditions, it is wild and over-the-top.
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War hammer 40K universe is bananas 🍌
B A N A N A S
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Heresy. Prepare to have a visit by Inquisition, filthy heretic boi.
@@imperialguardsman3154 OI! LETZ TAKE DIZ GIT DOWN TOGHETA! HEZ DUM! AN A SLIMEN GROT! BUT IZ EXPECT A PAYMONT OF TEEF!
@@tactic34wot52 Oi! Das iz gud my Xenos brotha.
"You're supposed to stop the artillery before sending the infantry"
Kriegers : " We don't do that here."
"supposed"
Isn't there an old tactic like that? Creeping Artillery, if I recalled correctly.
@@datkhornedog899 I think it's the rolling barrage. Usually in WW1, the artillery would bomb the enemy trenches for several hours with all they had, then they would send the infantry. But from what I remember, this always gave the enemy time to reorganize (assuming you're not dead or shell shocked of course) because if you've been bombed for several hours and it suddenly stops, it's very likely that an infantry attack is next. If I'm correct, with the rolling barrage artillery shots would slightly move forward at the same speed as infantry, thus preventing the defenders from reorganizing as much as before.
Edit: actually it's "Creeping barrage", it was a mistranslation on my part, in french we call it "barrage roulant" which translate to "rolling barrage".
@@O-P-96 ok.
@@O-P-96 isnt the blitzkrieg the same? artillery with followed by infantry and armored support to crush the line really fast.
The horses used in the charge are so genetically enhanced that they're barely horses. They can keep charging while taking small arms fire such as lasguns, and have massive claws which they can use to rip the enemy appart. Also the lances used are designed to penetrate armor and then explode, if you look at the lances you see that they have a simmilar charge as the potato masher and they explod after hitting the space marine's armor.
Also an interesting story about the deathkorps. They where sent as honorguard for diplomats inspecting a dissident city, when the diplomats where executed by the dissidents the deathkorps promptly started shelling the city. The deathkorps continued shelling the city for 10 years after which the city was utterly reduced to rubble, this was 2 years after they stopped detecting life signs from the city and 5 years after the city decleared unconditional surrender. The deathkorps doesn't fuck around.
Also the fact that iirc the horses can tank a few bolter rounds so the black legion astartes aiming for the rider is way more viable than aiming for the horse which is hilarious
@@imakira21 only in 40k is easier to kill the rider then the horse
Those horses also have pain suppressors and adrenaline boosters implanted into them. Not to mention that their riders literally do not give a single damn whether or not running headlong into fire with sharp sticks is feasible or not.
@@jonathanhamilton6190 i mean... IRL that can also be the case, especially if the rider is unarmoured...
Let’s not also forget that death korps troops are trained to not feel fear
I love how the Cadia guardsmen is emotionally drained and shocked then gets a reassuring pat on the shoulder after losing a few squadmates. The Krieg riders have only 2 remaining in their unit and just look at him like he should have known that was gonna happen. Great final shot.
-the Cadia Gaurdsman "first time?"
@@enderriderone5180 if he is new though Welcome to the grim dark
Doubt he was actually a Cadian, many world imperial gaurd equipment is made based on Cadian Equipment.
Actually, there were more Krieg alive. They were just mopping up and securing the perimeter of their new real estate.
And if those were actual Cadian Guardsmen, they wouldn't have needed to be bailed out by the Krieg. The Cadian Guardsman is second only to the Astates Chapters and the Kreig Death Korps in terms of quality and capabilities as well as fighting strength and spirit. They have to be the damn near best after all.
The Eye of Terror is their responsibility to keep watch over and defend against any Chaos force that comes out.
More than 500 Generations of Guardsmen defended Cadia successfully. The planet cracking and dying before they did. That puts the Cadians up there with the Krieg.
If it was an actual Cadian regiment? This would've been just another Tuesday.
Kriegs soliders have a multitude of reasons for why they get away with things, one- They dont care. Two- They have better armor in some cases. Three- they're the most suicidal force in lore, if it's a mere gunshot. They keep going until their body gives up. Pain is a weakness and they kill any soldiers who show pain during training.
The spears are outfitted with an anti armor grenade bundle at the base of the tip as well.
Fun Fact: In 40k, the Imperial Guard has a type of officer called a "Commissar." The Commissar is technically not part of the regular chain of command and thus has no command authority unless they also hold a commision as a regular officer (such as the infamous "Colonel-Commissar Gaunt") but they do have absolute authority in matters pertaining to discipline. This includes executing deserters and cowards. In a normal unit, one of the Commissar's duties on the battlefield is to enforce discipline by giving speeches and making themselves a visible presence to remind the troops that if they break and run, the Commissar will not hesitate to judge them cowards and shoot them in the back as they flee. However, in the Krieg units, they are so fanatically loyal that the Commissar does not have to worry about them breaking and running, but rather his job becomes keeping them from charging headlong at the enemy lines. Because the Kriegers absolutely will suicide charge the enemy even when it's tactically pointless and wasteful for them to do so unless a Commissar holds them in check.
Other regiments:
"Pick your next word carefully guardsman"
Krieg:
"Pick your next word carefully commissar"
Infamous? I'll have you know, Lord Executor Ibram Gaunt is very famous; he's a Hero of the Imperium.
That is if they manage to convince the kriegers not to shoot them first
The Krieg tactics kinda sound like WW1 tactics when charging bc they believed back then that going on the offensive was better than retreating even if they were defending they would almost always counter charge. Also, every time I hear of the Krieg I think about the Kriegsmarine.
And to add to that fact, Should the Commissar decides to run, it is the Kriegs duty to shoot him in the back.
You'll seperate a Kriegsman from his life, before you'd seperate him from his mask...
It's part of their uniform.
I believe you misspoke. You mean it's part of their face correct?
Its not just their uniform,its their BODY
That and they all might be REALLY younger then what the Minimum acquirement to join the guard.
@@dasji2 It is never too young to die for the Imperium
Sooner chance of him misplacing his entrenching tool.
The cavalry charge may have been deemed obsolete with the advent of the machine gun but the machine gun was deemed obsolete by the advent of genetically enhanced horse-like monsters that can take a bolter to the face. This vid has been very informative. Thank you. More!
A better gun forces the development of a better horse, which forces the development of better guns, etc
@@CombatVeteranReacts Indeed, though Krieg Cavalry tends to either screening units meant for flank protection/skirmishing, or acting as second echeloners. Both roles that can sort of just wait until the enemy has degraded somewhat before engaging.
The only thing a Kriegsman loves more than dying for the Emperor is killing for him.
Truth
they do have that insane love of their shovel
@@blackg0076
Because they can use them to kill the enemies of the God Emperor, preferably while giving their lives in a last ditch effort to turn the tide of the battle 😁
@@Warutteri not to mention the shame of being killed with a shovel , its got to hurt a lot knowing the last thing you see is " Product of Krieg" stamped on the blade
@@blackg0076
Okay, now all I can think of is how much I want to get a WW1 German trenching shovel to modify to look more like WH40K illustrations of Krieg shovels and get "Made in Krieg" or "Product of Krieg" engraved on it (would be even cooler to get it stamped on the shovel but I have no idea where I could get such a custom stamp done and since you would need to actually make said stamp it would be crazy expensive for a one off project like this 😅
For real, I've been looking whete to get a replica WW1 German shovel for the cheapest and already looked for a place to get the text engraved on it near by 😂
Although maybe instead of modifying a replica WW1 shovel I should make my own that's more similar in appearance to the WH40K illustrations? If I can find a shop where I can make the shovel and maybe even the stamp myself I could keep costs down and maybe I could start selling shovel blade blanks for people to make their own Krieg shovels?
The Krieger's horses are designed to withstand dozens of laser rounds (not to mention some Bolter rounds) before going down.
That explains the charge. Thanks
@@CombatVeteranReacts you should also note that those spears were tipped with some sort of anti-tank grenade at the tip which was what killed those traitor Marines
@@CombatVeteranReacts the horses are more comparable to an armored up transport than an actual horse
@@electricfeverx976 It's called a shaped charge
Each of those "puppies" are genetically engineered, by biomagos of adempus mechanicus.agressive and deadly by themselves
normal people: death is not an option
kriegers: life is not an option
Kriegers: i didn't even know that sentence existed!
Kriegers r so hardcore
@@temwananinkana3419 its scary to fight an enemy that is ready to die, it means they will not hold back at all
@@bigfrankfraser1391 those guys aint human. Imagine if they were astartes. It would be the end of the war.
@@temwananinkana3419 They would run out too quickly i woul say
"These guy really don't have a high regard for themselves and their lives."
That's an understatement.
That is the krieg way.
in life war, in death peace, in life shame, in death atonment
Anything for the emperor. Even our lives
It's better to die for the Emperor than to live for yourself.
Of course the death Corp keep shelling when there are friendlies in the bombardment area. Those shells are gifts from the emperor, and damn well they are gunna use all of them
Lol
Gotta love the kriegs
Combat Veteran: They charge with spears?
Krieger: Yes...Spears with high explosives at the end
And the heretics blood was red like roses
@@melkorlapich802 "What are Roses?"
@@aesthetics8230 he means the heretic blood color are like roses because it is red
@@theseknotsu9619 *Happy Gasmask Smile*
"In the Emperor's service, the Death Korps will pay any price."
And let the enemy keep the change
@@CombatVeteranReacts The Death Core of Krieg live to die... Like actually every single Krieg life exists to repay the Emperor because at one time Krieg betrayed the Empire. Krieg the planet creates armies 50 million a year every year. They have only retreated once regardless of odds and it was a tiny retreat that they trashed the enemy on the second go. The horses they have are generically modified each horse is the size of a Clydesdale and they have claws for feel and they are hairless they also have zero fear. They are the most loyal and zealous of all guard regiments. They have commissars that exist to prevent the men from suicidality charging too early. When they were brought back into the Empires fold after 5 hundred of years of nuclear civil war. The Empire said Give us 1 regiment ready for war. Krieg said 1 regiment? No... Here is 20 full regiments fully geared give us the worst warzones you have to offer. Also those spears have explosives on the end. (Sorry if someone has said this all already)
@@JoshTheHoffman yea they just exist to get there ass kicked and still fucking get the job done
@@ronhuret5113 In the grand scale of things the numbers are insane. In a meager 250 Warhammer years they would have made twelve billion five hundred million soldiers.
The Death Corps is just freaking cool. in the lore they only retreated once as far as i know and if i recall correctly they only retreated one trench further.
the big armored guys "small arms" is actually a an automatic self propelled antipersonel grenade launcher
It's also armour piercing!
We also have sniper variations
I think the round is actually more of a rocket...and I think it’s like a 20-23MM rifle.
But I suppose it is smaller than the tank cannon though?
@@tomoyboy yeah the Leman RUss battlecannon is 120 mm
"That's an entrenching tool..."
We know, the Kriegsmen know, and we all love our entrenching tools. Almost as much as our faces, I mean masks.
It's still fun to see an old reliable tool still in service in the year 40k lol
@@CombatVeteranReactsit is also sharp on the edge so it can be used to remove barbed wire
@@bayarsejar5831 And also remove heretics!
Early on, the Astartes that halted the convoy, did not think something was going to happen, he could actually see the enemy. He has enhancements in his helmet, he actually saw them, then engaged.
Wait dont they have some form of night vision without there helmets?
The Germans in WW1, actually put several grenades together as a way to fight tanks. So the multi grenade set up has legit history.
Cool!
I thought it was russian?
It wouldnt suprise me if the Russians copied it though, they copied alot of german stuff lol
Germans still advised that setup, possibly with a gas can included, as an anti-tank measure during Operation Barbarossa because of the shortage of non-towed options prior to the panzerfaust.
The Chinese would do this as well to take out Japanese tanks in the second Sino-Japanese war. I think the Japanese were more likely to use mines.
21:05
Fun fact. That over the top 6 in 1 potato masher was an actual thing in ww1. They were used by the germans as improvised anti tank grenades against the British mark 1 tanks.
and in 40k, they’re still anti tank for the living walking tanks
@@katteisace4563 you can kill pretty much anything. If it didn't die then you didn't use enough
Infantry in the second world war still did it if they didn't have anything better
Actually the used them a lot on the eastern Front against the T34`s and KV1. In the beginning of the War against the Sowiets, their Antitank Guns where useless to the Armor of the new Tank`s. In German a bundle of Potatosticks is called "Geballte Ladung" witch means "Bundle of Load".
“Why are they wearing gas masks when no one else is?”
Krieg was originally an almost paradise world, which tried to secede from the Imperium after calculating that their orbital defenses were so powerful that the Empire would decide not to try to reclaim them as the cost would be too high. Turns out they calculated right…. But didn’t know that the local Imperial Guard regiment (which they almost annihilated on the first day) would be ordered to 1) attempt to reclaim the planet at all costs and 2) that the Guard was stationed very specifically in a city that had the equivalent of thousands of ICBMs with a variety of thermonuclear (and similar) warheads…… This being Warhammer, they waited until the Emperors Feast day to make it very clear just why it was happening, and simultaneously launched all of them, destroying all but the most shielded cities in a single strike, sending the planet into a global nuclear winter, and destroying essentially all crops causing a global famine.
Centuries of war follow on an irradiated and chemically contaminated planet, leading to the development of standardized equipment that protects all soldiers against NBC weapons - including the gas masks. Combat in those conditions were exceptionally harsh, with casualties echoing the Fields of Verdun in WWI in every battle, resulting in a level of dehumanization that’s extraordinary even for 40k (and remarked on by both the Deathkorp - preferring not to fight with unmotivated allies - and by the rest of the Imperium - who think they’re all mad). Since that’s the gear thats needed to go outside on their home world (even after the unification) it’s also what they wear everywhere they are deployed, making them exceptionally flexible as they’re not only equipped for hazardous environments but also psychologically gleeful to fight there.
Also, since they wear there masks all the time, the Kriegers grew up on a sterile environment. Taking of their masks they would probably get sick and die anyways.
Also hides the fact that most of them are grown and deployed so fast a good chunk of the faces under those masks are teenagers.
@@TabletopCritters I doubt that even underground bunkers would be what one calls a sterile environment.
To put it short they just didn't know that you can take the gas mask off. And probably won't recognise themselves and their comrades without the gasmasks. I wonder if a Krieger can tell one face without gas mask from another
Enemy sgt. “Sir, we’ve successfully killed the Krieg Commisar. “
Enemy Lt.: “ you did WHAT?!?” “
Enemy Sgt. “ k-k-killed... the Krieg...commisar.... sir...”
The smell of fecies wafts through the enemy trench as the sounds of whistles can be heard in the distance....
The commissars are needed to keep them from charging head-on.
Bolters are basically a compact rocket launcher, and those Krieg lances have explosive charges. Imagine those in the hands of suicidal, unrestrained madmen, with the objective of bringing you down with them.
@@totalwartitan5118 there’s been irl conversions done and a bolt pistol is basically a rocket propelled 12 gauge buck shot.
@@trentthehehim3936 I am farly sure that some bolter rounds have high explosive payloads.
@@gargarmikejaphett.3840 kreig..........that's all I'm going to say
The gas mask guys are trained on a completely different world than the tank soldiers, thats why their equipment and tactics are so different.
Here is a good example of how Kriegsman act:"In life, war. In death, peace. In life, shame. In death, atonement."
Something that may not have been noted was that, when the Kriegsmen were charging the Chaos Space Marine, they were going for his stomach where the armor is weaker and where power cables were located thus a vulnerable spot that a normal sized human might have a chance of damaging or getting through.
Smart strategy
The Bundle of Stick- Grenades on one Stick is also a German Invention, made as improvised Anti- Tank and Pioneer Charge. Its called "Geballte Ladung" and was very common especially in WW2.
Greetings from a German Afghanistan- Veteran ;-)
Interesting! Cool to see it was historically inspired! Glad to hear from another Afghanistan Vet!
I belive also the Japaneese had a similar anti-tank tool in the Pacific called the Lunge Mine.
@@CombatVeteranReacts those lancers are actually the Krieger version of a Japanese ww2 Lunge mine, those spears have a ring of shaped charges around the spear tip that triggers whenever the spear encounters anything that would deform the speartip
Was about to comment this myself. If I remember correctly, it was also a world war 1 invention created to counter the new British tanks along with early AT rifles and of course standard artillery
Horse charges are useless against machine guns, but before they appeared, we were the force to be reckoned with, no one dared to belittle us, be it russia, prussia or tatars, the main force of Polish Husaria was the strongest force in the entire middle europe
Thumbnail: “HIGH RISK TACTICS”
DKoK: “No... they were still using their rifles.”
Is it actually high risk if you don't value your life?
@@CombatVeteranReacts in the 40k universe everything is high risk due to dangerous ENEMIES, so no
@@CombatVeteranReacts Kriger's have no value for life. There was a civil war on their planet. The nobels tried to leave the Imperium. After 1000 years and nuclear fire the Loyalists won. As penace they requested to be sent to the worst battlezones. Plus, they clone themselves. There's no other explanation for the number of regiments they muster.
@@CombatVeteranReacts
Also also all of them are like 16 to 18 essentially a bunch of teenagers
@@Tetsujinhanmaa
I thought they had like underground fungus and maggot farms or something that allowed them to turn the mantle of their planet into a hive city.
I'll answer a few of your questions here actually.
So with the engagement at the ambush it could've possibly been that the Astartes saw the AT team and was confident enough to eliminate the target, where bringing attention to the AT team could've endangered the tank crew further. He took the shot cause he was confident enough that it was safer than alerting the tank crew. Another point could've been that as he eliminated the first target he would've talked to the crew through his helmet comms, which have been stated to be only heard by those who are on that frequency, which seems to be supported with how quickly the turret slew towards the correct bearing.
On the topic of the Kriegsmen on the horses, people have said before that those horses are pretty much so genetically modified that the only thing about them that are horses is the name, bred to be hardy and exceedingly fast. It also fits into their German WW1 aesthetic and the way they fight. The spears have anti armour charges on them so they detonate after burying themselves into the target. Basically the two black marines were blown to hell with how often they got hit.
Dropping artillery on their own infantry is pretty much the general behaviour of the Krieg.
In regards to charging the red marine, they probably knew about the guy readying his grenades and where giving him time, or they just wanted to overwhelm and distract him from turning his attention back to the green marine. They do indeed have a lack regard for their own life but to them its for the objective and for victory.
I hope these answered a few of your questions, and I'm enjoying the analysis of your videos. Glad that you're enjoying the 40kverse.
PS: I'd love to see some of your vintage military gear, that sounds pretty awesome!
There used to be a piece of war gear on the table top where an Krieg infantry man could be issued an artillery homing beacon. This would allow you to target your own unit with artillery and it wouldn't scatter. The idea was that you would charge a valuable enemy unit with a cheep unit then drop artillery directly on top of the squad so it would scatter and do max damage to the enemy unit. I really miss that rule, yea artillery doesn't scatter any more but it makes me sad. There's something about handing a dude a homing beacon and telling him to charge that tank or enemy super heavy so that your artillery wont miss. It just fits so perfectly with the Death Korps of Krieg ethos.
In the death korps there is no greater euphoria than to die for the emperor.
This aligns with what I saw in the video loo
"in life Shame, in death Forgiveness" Death Corps of Krieg motto
Bit inacurate. There is not really euphoria. Just immense sense of duty that overwrites their sense of value of their own lifes. Their greatest desire is to do their duty in emperors name as much as possible, even if it means that they would die. So that their deeds would be added to all other deeds of all other Kriegsman ever to pay for sins of their ancestors.
To rout, disobey orders or even rebel would be to destroy all the work Kriegsmen did to get their ultimate salvation - that is to get rid of inherited guilt of generations from ages ago.
It almost sounds like a cult or religion, but Kriegsmen are too practical for this. They simply made it into their culture to such degree that they is not really much space for anything else.
"in life SHAME,in death FORGIVENESS!
I would love to sit down and chat with you about this. The Krieg Are definitely one of my favorite “sub factions”.
6:00 "You wanna start the counter-ambush with your biggest hit first."
But the tank has to turn its cannon to shoot, which would give the enemy time to react. A bolter round would pretty much be the closest you can get to that with small arms fire besides a rocket or grenade launcher, so that might have been for the best.
a bolter is a grenade launcher / rpg though?
@@katteisace4563 iirc canonically a bolter rifle fires .50 cal rounds in automatic fire. They very much are bullets. Just rather powerful ones.
@@christopherreichle6670 .75 cal actually, with a timed-fuse explosive charge at its core
@@christopherreichle6670 they’re closer to something like 40mm grenades if anything (at least after they have hit)
@@christopherreichle6670The .50 cal is human-sized, and as mentioned by the other commenter .75 cal is Astartes-sized. As a lil trivia: the human-sized one (Locke Pattern) has burst-fire mixed in with single and full auto modes.
before each battle the krieg say "In life, war. In death, peace. In life, shame. In death, atonement."
I actually repeat this every day. I'm just living day be day.
the best way to understand the Death Korp of Krieg way of fighting is simply by finding out that no soldier in the Korp has a name, only a number
Charging with spears (special explosive tipped blasting charges).
Their target was the Chaos Marines.
The charges are well suited to their armor.
All other considerations were secondary to the krieg mindset at that moment.
As to the shovel, the meme is a krieger advancing and saying "pray to your dark gods I dont hit you with the shovel"
They can kill anything, even gods, with them.
Ok, late to the comments, but, fun fact about the Imperial Guardsman in the Tank, near the beginning you can see that on his Helmet there are three white lines. Based upon his shoulder insignia he is a Cadian - Best Guardsman the Imperium has to offer - those three lines mark him as a White Stripe. White Stripes are Cadians who have finished their basic training and are on their first battlefield assignment. His behaviour during the battle is probably indicative of anyone's first battle, especially seeing both the Death Korps of Krieg and the Chaos Space Marines of the Black Legion first hand. After this battle and subsequent battles he will be assigned to a specific position, losing the mark of the White Stripe, and gaining a role within the Cadian lines, probably as part of another Leman Russ Tank crew.
Of course all that is if he survives, the average survival time for a Guardsman is 15 Hours.
The siege of Vraks series by Arch is a nice, but long deep dive into the Death korps.
My favorite part, that really gives their mindset away is, when they almost rebel after years of bloody carnage...when the new marshal does not send them into their death anymore.
“What do you mean we are not walking slowly towards machine-guns? What new type of heresy is this?!”
@@alexandreogrande2100 Time that the commissar gets motivated by a bayonet up his ass.
@@SirMarshalHaig or a sudden discharge of his bolter or laspistol to his own skull
@@alexandreogrande2100 Uuups...sorry Sir.
@BenjaminTheRogue I think you could say something similar about some Space Marines and also orcs...but the Death Korps is supposed to be 'normal humans'...so yes it´s pretty funny.
The Death Korps of Krieg's doctorine is more or less "10,000 dead to gain 1 cm of ground? VICTORY! May my death in the service of the emperor, earn redemption."
Fun fact, but that bundle of grenade type thing was actually done in WWI as an anti-tank weapon when you didn't have much else. It even saw use in WWII. Bundle a bunch of grenades that might scratch armor together and if they go off at the same time it might break the armor.
I hope someone does an Ork video because I really want to hear you react to their tactics of shout, charge and chop.
"tactics"
@@CombatVeteranReacts Hey, it's a tactic, just not necessarily a smart one.
19:50
"these guys really dont have a high regard for themselves and their lives"
That isn't just a mere observation, it is objective truth. Behold the Kriegers
If you liked this you'll love "The siege." It's another Warhammer animation and it's awsome!
Also, to clarify some things:
1, the Astartes (space marine) can talk through his radio through a mental link. I know it works with other Astartes, so it might work with the guardsmen.
2, those Astates have a gun called a bolter. Imagine a rifle that 75 cal, rocket propelled, armor piercing explosive rounds. That is one of the few things that can pierce their armor.
3, the death riders (cavalry) ride genetically enhanced horses that are basically a horse equivalent to a space marine. They're ridiculously fast, strong and stupidly overpowered to the point they can take gunshots and explosions and act like nothing happened.
4, the Death Korps don't exactly care about casualties. Their soldiers don't fear death, and they have the numbers to accept their casualties. Firing artillery while your soldiers are still there isn't uncommon.
The Death Korps believe they owe a debt to the Emperor for their planet's betrayal. A debt that can only be paid in their blood or their enemy's.
That explains some of what I saw in the video. Thanks
forgot that the spear have explosive charge that are made specificaly to react to astartes's armor, wont do much against a proper tank, but will do alot of damage against an enemy astartes, that is why the spear in this situation was a better option than a lasgun would have
@@thargs9184 and lasgun are called flashlight because they are that weak compared to what they are facing
It's always fun watching guardsmen kill Astarties it's like seeing Batman beat Superman
In the books, Astartes comm links or vox as they are called in universe can indeed contact Imperial Guard forces as well.
The guardsman work around the Astartes and keep in mind that they’re essentially walking tanks with automatic rpgs for guns so them initiating the counterattack seems to be the better option as seeing the Leman Russ’ turret start turning is a clearer signal to the ambushers than the astarte raising his gun
Fun fact: The cluster grenade charge actually happened in WW2 - There are pictures of them, and probably a few still remaining. I think it was an early anti armor thing.
"You want to hit them with your biggest blow right away." Thus the Astartes(walking tank) begins firing a 40mm machine gun with the accuracy of a Demigod.
Bolters arent 40mm, they're .75 caliber which is about the size of a 12 gauge shotgun shell. Heavy bolter rounds are 1.00 caliber which is around 25mm.
@@Nova_Comstar Noice I wasn't sure. I just stated 40mm to explain the basic effect that it has when fired. "It goes in and boom..."
@@oddersisadog yep, they just feel so much bigger because they are explosive rounds that go BOOM! inside the target! so i agree with most of your statement Odders!
@@oddersisadog they're have something like 55mm cannons. they're called autocannons and they're basically AA guns (for ig) but for astarties they're like heavy assault rifles
@@Nova_Comstar shotty shells are .50 sized (in the bore anyway). Bolter rounds are closer to 20mm autocannons from ww2
Oh and another fun fact:
In 40k, there are commanding officers called Commissars, that generally will execute you on the spot if you try to desert or retreat without orders to retreat, or if you say anything heretical. This is generally to inspire a sort of negative morale in the soldiers, who are supposed to feel like "I *might* die if I charge the space bugs in front of me, but I *will* die if I disobey orders"
The thing is, Kriegers obviously do not need morale "boosters" like other regiments do. Kreig commissars mainly exist to keep the average Krieg soldier from charging blindly into enemy fire. They also exist to keep the general Krieger populace from shit-talking other regiments to their face for being too cowardly.
There have literally been accounts where Kriegsmen have executed/mutinied against their own commissars (usually commissars not from Krieg) for "treason", aka, the commissar was being too much of a coward and the Kriegsmen couldn't handle nothing happening.
The horses the Death Corps use are genetically enhanced to ignore pain and fear while being able to handle small-arms fire.
Also, their lances are equipped with small explosives.
Good points
“He (space marine) is hitting them with small arms fire.”
Me: *Laughing that someone called Bolter fire “small arms”*
For reference a bolter fires a .998/75 caliber round (about the size of a Red Bull can) using a rocket propulsion system for each round, which embeds itself in a target before exploding!
In 40 K bolt rounds are just gnats compared to some of the archeotech that exists. Yeah 12 months but just thought I'd watch this video anyways... And comment. 🤣 Bored.
The Death Korp of Kreig riders are actually scouts for the regiment. However, only when the Death Korp need fast reaction forces in certain areas or just need to push in areas that need constant pressure are they sent in.
That makes strategic sense
@@CombatVeteranReacts in this case, the Chaos cultists kind of had our armoured column pinned down, yes? Think of the Death Korps horsemen as a swift and agile QRF.
Kreig horsemen also do lance charges.
One of the jobs of the commissariat is to inspire the guardsmen during combat into acts of self sacrifice with the exception being the ones assigned to the Death Korps who's job it is to prevent the Kriegers from needlessly throwing their lives away en mass.
Lol Only the Krieg Korps has Commissars regularly trying to get reposted to another imperial troop where they can do their job and shoot traitors
krieg commisars be like "If you INSIST on dieing today at least *try* to capture the bunker"
Loved your look on things and I very much appreciate you theorizing how an Astartes type soldier would function in the real world!
Thanks!
I really like how you analyze it from a tactical perspective and point out what seems right and what seems wrong, it is really enjoyable
If you want recommendations:
The rest of SODAZ's channel (Siege, Black Templars, etc.)
"Death Korps of Krieg" by AbsolutelyNothing (another video about the same guys)
"The Faith" by Gabriel Christtiane
"Guardsman 2018" by Richard Boylan
"Hellsreach" by Richard Boylan (longer series, but worth it)
"Death of Hope" series (trailers 1+2, then Anarchy Reigns) by Mark Luis Spark
"Astartes" (parts 1-5 at once) - only available at the official website of GW since the author was hired
Wh40k 9th Edition official trailer available at the official GW channel called Warhammer
Cool, I try not to use proprietary GW stuff but SoDAZ has some cool looking stuff
@@CombatVeteranReacts GW have been really good on letting people react to their videos, haven't heard about a single one being taken down, and there is a ton. But, if it's a principle you have, then there is a ton of good fanmade stuff (although, if you're not planning on reacting to it, I'd say to watch Astartes anyway as it's the gold standard of 40k videos right now I think.. also, the "pirate copy" posted on YT has the original soundtrack, which I think is the only thing the re-upload on GW's site has changed)
Sadly astartes is going to be harder to work with considering games workshop scooping them up.
@@CombatVeteranReacts DA TEMPLIN INZTATUTE IZ A GOOD LORE TOO! DO DA ORKZ!
@@CombatVeteranReacts I would definitely recommend to watch Astartes. It's been a very long 1-person project that seems to be finally finished, and it is so good that the creator was hired by GW.
As for the cavalry, the mounts of the Death Korps of Krieg are about as much horses as Space Marines are regular humans. Check Lexicanum website.
The cavalry lances are fitted with a single use bundle of AP charges, capable of penetrating the armour of a battle tank.
Ah, that explains a little more about their tactical decisions
@@CombatVeteranReacts Krieg steed has more common with a bear than a horse, they have sharp teeth and sharp claws instead of hooves. Very aggressive, can take tremendous ammount of damage and the gas masks they wear are armoured.
They are result of long period of selective breeding and genetic manipulation. Krieg battle doctorine is usually trench warfare and attrition. Cavalry usually does scouting and chase fleeing enemies. But are held back as reserves incase enemy counter-attack or as a breakthrough force. May not be tactially sound but the willingness... no the need of kriegsmen to die for the Emperor cannot be underestimated or understated.
There is a lore reason why they use horses. Krieg had centuries long civil war and the supplies to field vehicles were so scarce that it would be a waste of resources and the terrain already was blasted hellscape that any vehicle would have great difficulty to manuvere in it.
@@Staccet if I'm correct, most of the vehicles they had during the civil war were built on tractors or other heavy equipments, correct?
@@O-P-96 Yes.
The Baneblade, a giant Tank of the Imperium, is a mere Light Tank.
@@datkhornedog899 Well, by Federation standards. Pre-AoS humanity (I.E. The Federation) did not fuck around. They scared the shit out of the Orks and damn near dismanteled the Eldar empire when the Eldar pushed them too far. The Baneblade was- By Federation standards- a light scout tank. It's also not too far to assume that your average federal infantry man could beat the shit out of a space marine without breaking a sweat considering how far along genetics research as they were.
Another fun fact... Mankind didn't loose most of it's knowledge from the AoS, rather the Men of Iron rebellion, as most STCs (Or A.I. constructs as it's implied) were hopelessly corrupted and their data lost. The AoS was just the final nail in the coffin. The Modern day mechanicus aren't even dealing with a fraction of the knowledge the Federation had, so whenever someone finds an STC, the Mechanicus would bend over backwards to aquire it, either through favors or other... unsavory means.
watching you call the bolter "small arms" makes me happy in knowing you can get the experience of discovering this amazing, ridiculously over the top and absurd universe that is Warhammer 40k. Just watched the more recent video on the Death Korps of Krieg and immediately came to this one, really like the commentary: informative in a calm and clear way. Hope you had fun with the animations and really hope you took interest in more Warhammer 40k content and had fun with it as well
I'm loving the break down and insight you have when it comes to the tactics and gear. Very interesting! I always enjoy learning new things
Normal guardsman regiments: we make camp here tonight, treat the wounded soldier
Death Korps: kill the wounded soldier & take their equipment they slowing us down, we need to reach our destination next morning...
Actually no. Why would you kill the wounded (the ones that can be healed) when you can just take their equipement as easily before the medical corpse evacuate them to the rear ? In an universe where reinforcements can take decades to arrive, you do not shoot a man than can serve again, even kriegers don't do that.
@Samuel Sandoval They are the death korp dummy, the real ones, not the one memes tend to blow out of proportion. They have no hesitation to gave their life for the Emperor IF IT'S USEFUL. They do not charge titans with bayonet neither do they shoot on the spot anyone who has a fair chance to recover and fight again.
@Samuel Sandoval The last story I read where kriegsman where involved (as part of a coalition) their wounded where treated as well as the other regiment but the order Hospitaller. If they do not have medical assistance, sure they will terminate the wounded. If they do have medical assistance, then not making use of it to preserves your forces is absurd even for Kriegs.
Kriegs has always been a topic of contradiction among autors. Either their behaviour and natures (clones or normal human) contradict among novels. But meme have done a terrible job of convincing a lot that they want to die so badly that they are ready to do pointless stuff (like killing the wounded). They are zealots with a death wish, but they are certainly not idiots.
@@ralexy999 actually. They will charge a titan.
Catachan with both arms and a lung missing: Hey doc, get your ass over here and patch this up!
According to the lore of the Death korps of krieg the horses have undergone a unique evolution that their hide is tough enough to be bullet proof.
That answers my question about the charge through laser fire. Thanks
@@CombatVeteranReacts They're probably also ridiculously fast for living creatures, but why the Deathcores tactics really work is far simpler than that......
numbers and no regard for their lives.
When there's no cover around to protect them from automatic fire, they will literally just send wave after wave of Kriegsman until the mountain of corpses
piles up high enough to give them cover.
So yes welcome to the 41st millennium where all reason and sense has long died and losing 1-2 billion soldiers in a single Battle is considered "normal".
@@CombatVeteranReacts Also the Lances are explosive, the tips are fitted with a shaped charge capable of piercing tank and Astartes armor the lasgun can not, atleast not without luck or a massive amounts of hits. Also i really enjoy you comments
It does seem that the Kriegsmen Death Riders are smart enough not to trigger the lance’s detonation on personnel targets that aren’t as large as an astartes
the mounts also have flack soft Armour, on top of all the bio-engineering to make them tougher
What you have seen done with the grenade charges is a "Geballte Ladung" wich was done by german troops, because the explosive charges could be removed from the stick grenades and bundled together to incapacitate tanks or sometimes fortifications.
;)
Edit: Btw the design of the cavalry is based on this:
www.pinterest.de/pin/166281411222349486/
I'd love to see vintage military gear.
Can never go wrong with some of the old stuff.
Welcome to warhammer 40 000. We have planets like star trek next to medieval style worlds and literal magic users. Feel free to mix those concepts ;-)
The death Korps of krieg (the gasmask guys) are from a world that was destroyed by nuclear and chemical weapons. They almost never take of the masks.
What this video doesn't really show is that those "horses" are more like bears on steroids, claws and all.
For a detailed description of everything that goes on here, the text box is not long enough.
Just let me leave you these words. The warhammer 40k rabbithole is incredibly deep, the videos are great (especially astartes and death of hope) and the communityis welcoming.
Also: In the grim darkness of the future, there is only war.
Edit: p.s. Krieg soldiers are batsh*t insane in their desire to die for the emperor.
That is a strange slogan for a welcoming and fun community. I've watched some of Luetin09 lore vids. It is a fascinating and ridiculous universe. I think I will enjoy it immensely. Thanks for watching!
@@CombatVeteranReacts you should check out baldermorts warhammer explanation videos he does great work exploring the factions of the 40k universe
@@clericofmetal8333 and he made some awesome lore too
@@cabellones oh yea he is a great narrator
the Death Corps of Krieg's fanaticism for the Emperor is only matched by the Maccabian Jannisaries just not as suicidal 😋
Can't say I expected to see Warhammer on this channel, but I'm totally onboard!
Cool! I will do more videos of there is interest!
@@CombatVeteranReacts Definitely need a reaction to the Astartes series then, the whole series is about the same length as the video you just watched here.
@@CombatVeteranReacts OI! YA SHOULD DO A VID ON UZ ORKZ! DAT WOULD BE DA BEZTEZT DING! FROM- DA BOYZ! (Written as a proper ork)l and spoken like one)
I think a big reason the Kreig cavalry charge works is that the Chaos infantry didn't keep up that continuous rifle fire. They took some pot shots, saw it wasn't effective and immediately lost their morale and panicked. Which is what the Death Korps was counting on.
This is the second video of yours ive watched. Youve earned yourself anothe sub. I really appreciate your content
The Space Marine's "small arms" just vaporized an enemy hiding behind a tree. I don't think the Astartes would be offended with mere humans firing first. It feels like the Astartes is equipped with better sensors so he was able to locate the enemies first. He would've relayed the enemy's location to his team, giving them time to prepare and his first shot was actually a signal for the guards to start firing. His team clearly knows where to shoot when they start firing.
In addition, Astartes have much faster reactions than normal humans. If he noticed the ambush at the last moment, he would've been able to start shooting... accurately... before the the tanker would've processed the information, much less acted on it.
This is a fun video to watch as a fan of Warhammer 40k and someone with a casual interest in military history. I like how you acknowledge the peculiarities of 40k tech level and tactics and take that into account rather than just discarding it outright. I look forward to future content, I have noticed you have started to analyse the Astartes videos as well.
Thanks! Glad you enjoy it!
"Tactically insane" pretty much sums up the whole death korps of kreig
their tactics are actually seemingly pretty good, considering their gear and how that factors in alongside the opponents they regularly face
That Potato Masher grenade you speak of at 20:10 is actually the Anti-tank charge that is mounted on the end of a Death Riders Hunting Spear(those lances they we using during the ambush scene). Fun fact those spears are made of light weight metals with the tip being a charge that will explode toward the target and not the rider while keeping the spear in working condition to fit another spear tip. Some scary stuff really when combined with a horse that just won't die and and rider that emits happy gas mask noises as it with horse and spear are, snorting, stomping, stabbing, and even blowing up the tanks. By the way its not 1, its 100.
The Emperor Protects
6:05 ''You want to hit them with your biggest blow right away'' The Space Marine did hit them with that formations biggest blow.
According to a space marine, a space marine is the most potent weapon on the battlefield ha ha ha
Not,if we are talking about foot soldiers then that would be Custodes that would wipe out space marine,one Custodes could kill 10 astartes in a blink
@@CombatVeteranReacts The standard space marine weapon, a bolter fires a rocket propelled/guided grenade that explodes on penetration. Check out Astartes ep 4 if you want to see this in action
hahahahahaha - but in fairness, the "small arms" is technically a semi-automatic rocket launcher
@@CombatVeteranReacts can't blame them for being correct 🤷🏻♂️
The guys in gasmasks, the Death Korps of Krieg, come for a nuclear hell hole of a world, Krieg. To make a long story short, they’re highly trained to be able to fight in the most hazardous of conditions and are so used to the most horrific of landscapes, that they’ll casually wear their full gear into battle. It’s not equipment for battle, it’s a way of life. No matter how short.
and also they actually want to be in the biggest shitholes....those mofu love that shit.
I love so much reaction channels like yours where they are actual experts or critics giving interesting commentary on what they react to rather than randoms sitting on a chair with a blunt face and at the end going "oh that was so good oh wow"
The way I've had the cavalry charge explained to me is that the spear heads are made from a dense metal that can pierce power armor, where as the Laz-Guns the Deathcorps use can't penetrate the armor, also the spear heads apparently have explosives built in. Also the Deathcorps just throw bodies at a problem until the problem is gone.
Death Korps horses are famously durable. They are extremely durable, with examples of their guts being blasted away yet still on running for hundreds of meters. They are also exceptionally aggressive animals. The spears on the other hand, are called Blast spears. They are a form of dedicated high explosive anti tank grenade.
the reason why i love the universe of 40k so much is the sheer absurdity of it all
Amen!
@@CombatVeteranReacts the "6-piece-potato-masher" isnt a spawn of Warhammer insanity. It was a very early version of an anti-tank grenade
Kreig Calvary: "Our horses are awesome and we want to die for the Emperor!"
It's very likely that this was already pointed out, but the bolter that Dark Angel fired at the start of the counter ambush is basically an Assault rifle that fires rocket propelled grenades. Against a human target that isn't a walking tank (aka a space marine) it really doesn't matter if you get hit by a bolter or a tank cannon, as in both cases at least half your body is gonna go missing
I always thought it was a salamander but a Dark angel makes more sense
the grenade used to kill the chaos marine, did exist in that form, with the 7 charges at the top. its called "geballte Ladung" eng: concentrated Charge. its mostly a quick response of the germans to the first tanks encountered
That is pretty cool!
The whole lore of Warhammer 40k is super huge and can take a while to learn, but a really cool grim sci-fi fantasy. In Warhammer 40k a lot of old tactics from like World War I, World War II and etc are used. In the video they just kill without mercy because in Warhammer 40k mercy, and hope are long forgotten words.
Mercy and hope were also forgotten in WW1 and WW2. Just look to the refuge resettlement programs after WW2...
In the grim darkness....
@@jpractical7864 true
@@CombatVeteranReacts ...of the Far future there is only war!" Yes, brother!
In the words of konrad curze, "Mercy is a weakness"
The"small arms" for an astartes is a .75 caliber select fire rocket launcher.
I’m really sad I found all these videos after sodaz stopped making them. He was really an amazing creator
Welcome... to the Grimdark Universe of WARHAMMER 40,000.
Notes:
• The Space Marines, these from the Dark Angels Chapter, are equipped with Bolters, essentially an automatic rocket launcher.
• The Cadian Shocktroopers are the face of the Imperial Guard, and often their elite forces.
• The Death Korps of Krieg are suicidal in every sense that involves war. They seek forgiveness from the God Emperor, and died to earn them.
• The enemies are Traitor Guardsmen and the Chaos Marines, servants of the Dark Gods. The latter brings the Black Legion and a Khornate Berzerker, a servant of the Chaos God of War.
Nothing says WH40k like having the suicidal fanatics be the good guys
@@CombatVeteranReacts
It gets worse.
😬😬😬
@@lucascoval828 Much worse. We have the commie blue skin space weebos and the pointed eared BDSM loving dark space elves.
@@Questknight12
And not the good and wholesome BDSM.
From what I've gathered.
Lore wise, the horses the Death Korps uses have sub-dermal armor and are bred way stronger than normal. They can take some small arms fire.
That explains the charge
The lances the cavalry uses are mounted with a shaped charge somewhere near the tip for maximum impact against armored targets, and are discarded after the charge.
Lore-wise for the cavalry charge, the horses are genetically engineered and bio-engineered to be incredibly tough an resilient, and the cloth bardings they have is also likely some form of flak-materiel, the basic 40k equivalent of Kevlar, that offers at least partial protection from las and stubber (small caliber ball ammo) fire. The mounted guardsmen are also clad in this material.
Thanks for actually adding something and giving me a new context with which to view things, instead of just being a blank face saying non-descript phrases like: "wow" and "that was cool."
There are a lot of reaction videos like that. It's pretty surprising
The horses in the lore are genetically altered to be tougher, faster, and stronger. Their designed to take multiple and fatal wounds and keep on running until they literally explode into pieces. They also feel less pain and the help of lots of drugs also helps them from ever getting tired. These horses can literally get shot more that a dozen times and keep moving. All thanks to genetic engineering. Their more that can be said but I think that's enough to give you a general idea of the horses in this universe.
This answers my question about why the horses could take laser fire so easily
@@CombatVeteranReacts I guess it's also about momentum und speed. Darkness and suddendly a group of riders on horses mowing through the enemy lines. And they need to somehow overwhelm the chaos astartes. They laugh of the lasgun because they are so heavily armored, so you need a method to breach their armor and you need to be fast in doing that. I guess a genetically modified horse is the best option, given the situation of the terrain, immobile tanks blocking the way and the tactic of overwhelming an superior enemy by numbers. Some soldiers will die, but someone will come close enough, to put his spear into a weak point of the enemies armor and take him out with the attached explosive charges.
@@aletorw1025 explosive pointed spears...
When you said they don't have high regards for themselves, that is exactly what makes them so crazy. I never read too much into them but if I remember correctly, it's because their ancestors tried to break off from the Emporer. Even after so many years they still feel like traitors and try to atone for it by their deaths. So when a Krieg dies, that's what they wanted.
"May the mountains of our corpses earn a scrap of his forgiveness."
The "horses" are so massively genetically altered and augmented they are tougher than most armored vehicles of todays real world.
Mad Science at it's finest lol
Welcome to 40K Guardsmen
For the Emperor!
@@CombatVeteranReacts The Emperor Protects!!
@@Dripularstein And having a bolter by your side does not hurt either.
@@Dripularstein how does a corpse protect
@@magnusthered4973 HERESY!
Imperial Guard and the Astartes both have comms but they aren't on the same frequency. In several novels that follow Guard commanders they have to have their Vox (comms) officer hunt down the frequency of 'elite' units like Astartes and Soritas who aren't in the guard chain of command just to warn them of incoming forces. They usually ignore the guardsman but at least they try....
We're the Death Korps of Krieg, son. Did you think that was just a pretty name? We never retreat. We fight and we die, that's the Krieg way.
"Small arms"
40k: "we don't do that here."
Small arms are weapons that can be carried by infantry, so yes Bolters are considered smalls arms.
well they ARE small arms.....if you remember Titans exist.
@@DaemonKeido AFFIX BAYONETS!
all truth aside. I would full on bayonet charge a titan.
@@kennytime9221 Well it's not like getting stepped on by one hurts any more than getting Volcano Cannon'd in the balls right?
Great video man, glad to see more people picking this up!
Cool! I enjoyed it! Glad to have you watching
@@CombatVeteranReacts I really did! Thanks for the reply.
If you have any questions related to the lore of Warhammer 40k, I'll try my best to answer.
Nice to Know:
The Potatomasher Handgranate also called "Stilhandgranate" wasn´t just desinged that way because there wasn´t baseball in Germany it´s also proven that you can throw this handgranate further than the MK2 Handgranate because of the Stick. Also the Stielhandgranate with these multiple Charges isn´t just a Warhammer 40K thing, they were actually an improvised version of the Stielhandgranate were mutiple Granates were combined to improve the explosive power. This was used to deal with enemy tanks from close distance.
Also nice Video you got quite an impressive knowledge about military history thats cool haven´t meet many people who are this intrested in military history :)
Super important thing to remember about 40k is due to the hugely disperse nature of the empire you get radically different levels of technology from planet to planet and that technology difference leads to different (some times dated) regimental tactics. iirc Krieg is a late feudal/death world which leads them to develop WWI era tactics
Also, iirc the Death Korps of Kriege ‘Medics’ are called Quartermasters... Because if you’re to wounded to fight or will cost too many resources to get you back in the fight, he’ll just kill you and pick up your gear for the next guy.
Watch a couple of lore videos on the Death Corps to get some context for their tactics and motivation. Can recommend the Adeptus Ridiculous, Baldermort and Arch.
AR is best for a first one. It is literally a podcast of one friend explaining to another. It doesn't go as deep, but has much less expected in verse knowledge.
@@leechowning2712 And also it is very personal.
So You can relax and take in the information without the flare that is normally used.
AR is very good
I believe they communicate via hand signals for systematic effect . The Lancers are called " deathriders " . The tip of the lance has an explosive attached able to breach armor , basically medieval cavalry with genetically altered horses that can have most of their organs blown up and keep going with sci fi explosive Lances
The astartes who fired the first shot carries a bolter which is basically a small canon cabable of firing explosive, armor piercing rounds