2022 Honda CRF250R vs. Yamaha YZ250F | Motocross Bike Shootout
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- Опубликовано: 24 окт 2021
- Honda's all-new CRF250R is the most highly-anticipated bike of the 250F class this year, but how does it compare to the much-loved Yamaha YZ250F? Kris Keefer, Kenny Day, Sophia Phelps and Michael Allen take the bikes to the track to get an idea. From engine character to suspension, handling and ergonomics, we've got the full run down for a variety of riders on red versus blue for 2022.
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Thanks for doing this. Love all the information from the different riders.
Hey Keefer, your Videography team need to turn the audio levels up on your conversations . They have been low the last few videos. Just letting you know that l have to turn my TV almost all the way up to hear you guys . 😀
Copy that, noted. Thanks for the heads up!
The shootout we’ve all been waiting for 😎
So awesome to get a lady perspective! And this is absolutely just the video I needed. I am also trying to decide between these two bikes. I have 04 yz250f .. thought I knew I wanted a new yz250f but not sure after seeing how nice the crf is
Definitely need more vids like this
There's gotta be a way to make these videos just a little louder...other then that I always really enjoy these
I do mixing/mastering in case y’all need any help 😁
Put your hearing aids in
Yeah I just turn it up for the sound of the bikes haha
Listen to them in your car or truck. Way better specificallywhen you have subs. You need full sound low, mids and highs which 90% of phones and headphones dont do.
Turn it up
Keefer is the man🤘🔥 answers emails quick! He has a badass podcast going into incredible detail about bikes and rider etiquette.
Best shootout video I’ve ever seen
Thank you for this video and ur own opinions and giving ur opinions on others opinions
My son rode the 22 this past weekend. The CRF is a lot better but we are staying Blue. YZF still has the bottom end torque and superior suspension.
That Keefer inc FXR gear is beautiful . I hope Kris has more input in future design. PAY THAT MAN HIS MONEY
I appreciate bringing the opinion of Michael, cause he’s like most of us (weekend warriors). I can never relate to the Pro’s who have a lot of experience and team behind them to dial the bike to every situation. I ride 2017 Yamaha yz450f and don’t need the need for a new bike, it’s all the bike I need. Riding style deserts racing and some Baja. I would like too see more reviews of average riders. The GYTR is a great addition to this bikes.
I love how in the end of the video the Hondas number plate looks like it’s gonna fall off, I have the Honda with 4 hours on it so far I love the bike, but they definitely lost some top end power trying the add to the low end…
Excellent, in depth, detailed. enjoyable comparison video! This was extremely helpful to me. I'm looking at buying four bikes, one for each family member and I'm considering the YZ. I'm seeing LOTS of positive reviews for this Yamaha. It seems to be preferred by many riders, compared to all the other bikes. Thank You All, for this excellent video.
Do more of Sophia she was awesome and made a lot of sense. So refresh to here from a girl that knows what she is talking about.
Foreal
I know its rare 😂
Never clicked a video so fast
I love the look of the yk more than the Honda but I love Hondas, i love both bike equallyish and deciding what to get, any thoughts?
How do you guys rate suspension & handling when the bikes need stiffer springs?
Thank for the great video. I'm loving the way the 22 Honda turns with SAG set at 103.5 but what I can't seem to find is a good feel over breaking bumps (my suspension (Enzo) with a few extra bits valved for a B rider with springs for my weight). Whether it's decelerating or attacking I feel like it's dancing and sending way to much pogo feel up my arms. Thoughts?
Have you played with rebound? Sounds like suspension could be packing. I'm no expert mechanic I just love studying the mechanics of dirtbikes.
@@nikolasgibson3438 one click but may need to go a few more. Thanks!
103.5 ? Didn't know you can get 0.5 of a mm think that's called a micrometer , but same exact feeling ,the 22 turns like a dream but suspension feels pretty harsh over smaller choppy bumps .
It's Enzo. Sorry to say it. They only know how to make suspension for pros. If you're not a pro rider I have a guy who gives a more plush feel. Shock Therapy Racing in Wildomar. This is not an ad. My cousin had Enzo on his YZ450 and had STR redo it and it feels soooooo plush.
Wow been waiting for this video. These are my top two 250s that I would choose from, I love the new honda and would love to switch back, but currently on a Yamaha and think im still gonna go with the new yz250f
Ya stick with the yz it’s known to be the most reliable and does everything very well.
@@bradymxr4659 Yea I love my Yz I just grew up riding all honda crf80 85 and 150r. Like the test riders said im pretty sure id be more comfortable on the honda and I love the way Hondas corner, but I know Yamaha is the better bike
@@brandonfoley8070 ya they are great bikes. When I had a Honda 450 I just didn’t like the twitchy front end on fast straights especially when racing. My friends new Honda has been horrible at it and he’s been wiping a lot in corners and he’s an A riders. I just got my youngest son a 150r for when he gets off the 65 so he gets use to the 4 strokes before he gets a 250f. He has ridden it but can’t touch the ground even though I have the small wheel version on it. But man does that thing rip. But then so does his kx65.. lol
The. 2t sound in the background is the best, hands down.
Good knowledgeable break down by all the testers, very impressed, def should get more women like, that’ll channel, she knows her stuff.
I still don’t understand why manufacturers don’t do what Kawi does and have a 2 position foot peg, position, adjustment, (I know they probably saving costs), but it’s 22 and not all pegs fit into round holes, seems a major weakness on the Yamaha, big bike small cockpit.
Yamaha YZ250F bike of the year straight up.
I thought for sure that last guy would pick the Honda. Both are super solid bikes either way. I wish I wasn't so fat. Would love to go back to a 250f
Dude, I was 315lbs when I purchased a new 2016 Yamaha YZ250FX to start riding again...don't let your weight stop you - cause trust me, these bikes will pull us big guys around like we're middle school kids (especially with engine work/upgrades). :)
I hope the best for you bro! May you purchase and build the dirt bike of your dreams! Go get a Yamaha YZ250F with GYTR Engine kit and you'll be the fastest kid in town and people will wonder why your 250F is blasting past their 450s. ;) Just gotta get seat time and the fitness will come with your desire to ride harder, longer, faster, smarter etc. -Riding is the only thing keeping me on track with health & fitness, and I'm now 240lbs. You got this in the bag, bud. It will be the best decision of your life!!! 💪 👍 👌
Chris is the man, rumor has it he’s a good tipper and really good at scrabble.
Hi guys I cant find that fox cap with the litlle fox logo nowhere ? Any lead anyone maybe ?
Tx
I agree with Keefer the Yamaha air filter doesn't seal very good at all
They seal just fine.. never had a problem whatsoever. All bikes that I have had I spray oil on the bottom of the filter where it seals. That helps a lot with all bikes.
I went from a slightly modded 19' Honda to a 21' Yami, already ordered a 22' Crf. Have to shift more on yamaha, yes it has meat but it runs out quick, my Honda i could hold 3rd gear to the next turn, it revved and kept on pulling, yzf flattens out up top. And the Honda will out corner the yami everywhere on the track, and thats the 19, the 22 will be even better. Suspension isnt much better if at all from the 19' Honda. Yami is a good bike but imo, Honda pulls longer, more flickable, and i had more fun on red.
Held a 3 digit National #
Currently a 45+ Vet A rider
It’s now been 4 months and I was wondering now that you probably have the new 22, does your opinion here still stand? My main thing is I like a wider bike feel and and really nervous to get a 22 honda because of how thin they are and I would hate to buy one and not like how it feels width wise on the track. I currently ride a 17 ktm 125 which is thin to begin with and after riding a Yamaha at a test day i fell in love but honda always has my heart. If you have any thoughts on width feel please let me know because it’s the only reason why I’m debating on getting a yam over honda.
@@meta.5848 Im in New England we are just getting rid of the snow now.. haven't ridden it yet but sitting on it i like it.. and its also 8 pounds lighter than yamaha which is the biggest thing for me. I can tell how much lighter just rolling it up the ramp loading it.
@@robkeller8008 My bad forgot about snow 😂 but yeah I’ve been watching a lot of videos comparing them and honestly wish I was made of money and could buy both but most people say that it would fit my type of riding style a lot better. So I most likely will end up getting the new Honda I just hope it isn’t to skinny for me. Thanks for the reply. Have a good day.
Try going to a 49 t rear sprocket on your yz, that made me be able to stay in 3rd gear the whole track
The Honda is much more beautiful 🤩
We got the Honda an I’m glad we did, had to get lighter springs an revalve, it’s so much better feel my kid says! Now hearing all of this I’m glad we did go with the Honda! We been yamaha for five years now an he decided to go red!
looks like jett is selling bikes. How else do you go from Yamaha to honda unless you were able to test one !! Jett's selling bikes !! We had 15 fun years at the track then little man grew up. Cherish this time with your son it goes fast. Good luck on the Honda at the track and god bless stay safe !!
@@brianloeffler2245 thanks my guy, I got four sons that all race an they don’t plan on stopping anytime soon lol, we are a big family and everyone really enjoys it, been doing it since 2010, an I’ve done it my whole life also! We switched cuz of all the hype about it an my son wanted to buy his 1st four stroke himself so it was all him that made the choice to go Honda cuz he bought the bike not me!
@@ribbledean4111 That's awesome bikes are not cheap now days. You must be very proud of the young man. I always had a passion for dirt bikes as my dad loved fishing he bought me a dirt bike for the cabin to keep from bugging him. I always wanted to race so I got my son into it and lived through him for 9 years. Distiric 23 Mn. Dungey , Martin's, Oldenberg, Miller, William's, Wentland, Loberg just a few of the fast mn. kids he raced with or tried to. it's been fun watching there talents bring them. I dont miss a Saturday night watch qualifying all day. Its the only sport I watch so sick of the woke football babies I'll never watch a game again. Supercross better never go woke. I was pussed about GL this summer He was a awesome announcer and motocross personality. Best of luck to all your kids !!
@@brianloeffler2245 very proud of him, he’s only 17 an he worked his ass off all summer an bought his own truck also, it’s so cool watching him turn into a young man just like I was, plus he is still in school an is graduating this year, he juggles a lot for a 17 yr old on top of moto, somehow he finds time to make it to the gym 4 days a week! One thing is, moto based kids either got their heads on rite or they don’t! My daughter wants to start racing too, she’s at all the races with our whole family an she really likes her pitbike but she also said next year she wants to try the 65 class out! So that means all 5 of them will hopefully be doing it! I need to make a RUclips channel I think we would kill it on there cuz we are alway into something, weather it’s prepping bikes for the weekend or building stuff on our little farm or prepping their pitbike track in our yard so they can have friends over an have fun! I think it would do pretty good!!!
Would you recomend these as a beginner/ first dirt bike ?
You won't be disappointed by them Yammer-Cycles
Glad to hear the Suzuki is the winner this year!
Allen would do the Eli Tomac goon dance perfectly! Looks just like him
The real question is: You can buy one of these bikes and then throw another $3k into it... which one are you taking racing, and what mods did you do?
Yamaha just builds good shit
Does the 110 rear tire fit ok on the stock rim or do you have to go to a wider wheel?
A good rider will say it doesn’t handle as well, because the tire will be tall. I’d stick with stock size and use a Dunlop 33 or 53
The Yamaha 250 is better because it's almost twice the price of Honda CRF250R, atleast in my country. For pro racing go with the Yamaha, for outdoor activities, the honda is good enough.
Forgive my lack of knowledge but does the Yamaha need changing oil every 20hrs of riding?
Nah thats way to long. 6-8 hours or less depending on how hard you ride
What about woods bikes ?
Bikes are life
Yam has best service air filter
Reliability of Honda?
Sorry but when I pull my clutch in I don’t want to pull it all the way to the bar. Plus Yamaha has always had a good clutch feel.
Can anyone tell if the Honda still had the Pirelli's?
Looks like mx33.
Yes they do for 2022
18-20 yzf timing chains were a disaster and cost clients a fortune. Looks like new 21-22 is fixed thank good ness
Hope Honda wins
How can i afford this bike I'm from india 😔🇮🇳
19:19 “that’s good we need a little bigger guy in this” Me being 6,4 240 😑
Sophie has a future in commentating. She's cool.
LETS GO TEAM GREEN!
You need to get your audio worked out. I get it commercials are part of it, but it went from not being able to hear to busting eardrums when a commercial comes on, that is problematic. Elementary production, and I know you can afford it.
RUclips does that. They're commercials RUclips puts in there. We have no control over that.
@@RacerXIllustrated Roger that, the volume difference is just so extreme, but I understand. Thanks
Very quiet but the bikes sound so good
fix the volume...
Buy radiator braces for the Honda
Hey Kris need more mic volume m8
Bro with a Quarter million Subscribers you would think you guys could afford a better Microphone so we can hear you better when your talking
If I over jump a large jump I will take Yamaha
The Honda tends to makes me feel I am going off track
If it revs slower then it Is slower. It has less hp. and turning off the throttle is not recommended during racing...... ok, you can do it so you can get the bike into a turn.
Not true. Gearing and trans gearing , tire size , sprung weight all can make that feel. U can gear a bike to rev super fast but it will be slow as shit
I can't tell if thats your son, or "Partner" but you guys really do an awesome job. I looks like you have your hand on his lower back the whole time, I love to see people who care for each other so much... or perhaps you are controlling him like a ventriloquist's doll? Anyway I got a 2021 YZ250 earlier in the year because Keefer sold me on them...
Lol, he was a bit hands on. Oh and When all other batteries hold me down, I fly antigravity.
He had his hand in the seat of the honda lol
250f’s are so much fun. None of my vet friends with 450’s want to ride every weekend.
Then you need other friends.. cause I know quite a few on 450s that ride as much as they can!
The handling and ergonomics are so much better on the Honda
Handling? How well is the Honda handling never getting a hole shot?
@@jacobwilliam3986 bit hard for it to get a holeshot when it's never been raced professionally yet
@@tcmx712 bit hard for the Honda to make more power when the intake is on the wrong side of physics
@@jacobwilliam3986 yet it still has more power than the YZ with it's fancy intake🤷
@@jacobwilliam3986 aw did the Yamaha fan boy get his feelings hurt the Yamaha is a huge pig and the design is getting outdated it will soon be like Suzuki lol
I weigh 200lbs. Should I get a 250 or 450
250 would fit but if ur experienced 450
Keefer is a Kawasaki fan
Turn your mic up keef
You guys are adapting your ride style to the bike, there's a lot of tuning that needs to be done.. if the bike is bucking the suspension needs tuning. You should be confident on that bike if it's bouncing you around there's something wrong
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horses for courses. Learn either one and you'll be absolutely flying.
Let's Go Brandon!!
Hope Suzuki wins 😉
😂とてもおもしろいですね！！！
Yamaha
They both need new mufflers ASAP
Whatever racer x is doing with their microphone volume it sucks ass it's so quiet
Honda has a crf250 that's air cooled that would be a good bike for women. It's lower and not as loud so they won't get scared
i have a honda CRF205
People tell me all the time I ride like Jett Lawrence
My iPad is full volume and not sure what you’re talking about
Honda team
You never need to change the oil on the Yamaha or wash it, or put gas in it.
I,m a revver , and later i,m a old Guy who wants to lug ???
Sooo. Me being 6'4", 230lbs i probably shouldn't buy a 250.
Outside of Keefer wearing honda gear this is the most biased review ever. Put bike we are picking in the front, stand in front of the one we don't want to choose. I don't think any negative about the yamaha went without a Keefer comment counter how its good for Yamaha somehow and throwing some negative about the honda.
That Honda sure seemed to be bouncing around a lot seeing you said that it was good for that track. The Yamaha seemed more balanced which I also see at local tracks. I hear the Honda still is nervous up front or twitchy like it has been known for. Also quit saying the Yamaha feels so big cause like other test riders on other forums have said they have measured and there really is no difference. They think it’s a sight thing cause ppl see no gas cap and makes it look bigger. Yet when you look at ppl with their legs out their foot is just as close to the front wheel. She said she hopped off a Kawasaki and the Honda feels the same with that said I’ve hopped off the Yamaha to the Kawasaki and didn’t feel any difference. My friends said the same. Also I really don’t understand how your test riders are getting engine braking on the Yamaha. Don’t know what map you are using but my friends sure don’t have that problem also that bike turns on everything and is amazing at doing everything. I have a 450 but that 250 is definitely fun and fast. My son has a yz250 which had over 160hrs before rebuild in the motor and the valves still within their specs. Close to 200hrs as of now.
The Yamaha feels huge. Honda is better suited for ppl that ride hard and put work in.
@@dekancaine lol.. funny I’m an A rider and the Yamaha is just fine and has better power than the Honda and will last a lot longer too. Considering I’ve had Honda.. so your statement is very laughable...ppl that ride hard and put the work in. 😂 that’s hilarious. Tell that to teams that ride other bikes like they don’t ride hard and put in the work. What a comedian!
@@bradymxr4659 I have to admit, the only four stroke moto bike I've ever ridden was a YZ 426. I kinda was on the fence about it, because I rode open class two strokes. I would still to this day rather ride a two stroke. I would love to try a late model 4 stroke on a moto track now. By the way, I never had a chance to ride a 250 four stroke. I had no faith after seeing Stewart smoke Reed at Unadilla!!!! But after the AMA said no more leaded gas in 2006, the writing was on the wall.
@@bradymxr4659 I think it's preference. I grew up on yamahas, after years I bought a Honda and thought I'd lost my abilities til I jumped back on a yamaha again. There's no substitute to yamaha handling.
Yamaha YZ anything, dominates all.
I can barely hear you
🤫 shhh
😥😥😥😥😥😥😫
Horrible audio
Contradictions abound.
FJB LETS GO BRANDON.. YEA I SAID OT TWICE
Stock 250f pipes sound like garbage
To much bs, not enough riding
4 strokes suck
Kawasaki suck.. always has, Kawasakis are good but the stock suspension is complete garbage. I'd rather ride a Honda I like Yamaha I don't know I just want a bike with the suspension system that doesn't throw me off
and run through the track without throwing me off and you're not going to get that from a Kawasaki or Yamaha. Honda is 😂 a little bit better but none of them can perform out of the box they all need suspension work to get go around the track
Yamaha for sure I have a Yamaha and my son has a Honda and now he wants to sale the Honda and get a Yamaha
Yami drain feels weird nd feels real heavy and wide Honda and kawi feel the best
Butt butt butt YAMAHA the 👌 best 😊