5. Saddle Advantages and Maneuverability
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2020
- This begins with my daughter Cece introducing the video and mentioning her Grandpa John will be wearing the new Eberhart's Signature Saddle ( available at the end of August through Tethrd ) throughout the video. Then it jumps right into John talking saddle advantages over conventional tree stands and more importantly, properly maneuvering around trees in a saddle. Enjoy
I love the videos, we need 20 more years of videos and info from Mr Eberhart
With as much stuff as he has in that brain of his and the amount of filming we have been doing there might just be 20 more years worth of videos lol - Joe
I particularly like hearing about mistakes you have learnt by whether in your channel or in your books. Most people understandably try not to publicise errors they made but as you point out it’s how we learn. Keep telling those stories as I find them helpful and also keeps me positive when things go wrong.
Chris
I totally agree and will try to put errors into videos. I've been doing that subtly already. In the boot video I mentioned walking 3 miles in the winter with my heavy boots and my socks were soaked and my feet got cold and drove me off stand in a couple hours. That's how I learned to put on street socks and wear bags over them and change into heavy dry socks at the tree.
I did a couple old mistakes on the one saddle video I released by mentioning that you shouldn't make a lot of movements on the same side of the tree as the deer is to keep from getting picked, placing steps higher up on the backside of the tree to make up for the tree tether wrapping.
I don't think that just putting out a video on mistakes is a good idea, but I should do a better job explaining that when I do something in particular now that's different than the norm, it's due to a previous mistake I made that cost me or made the hunt uncomfortable and I should explain the previous situation or missed opportunity. John
I wasn't killing anything but does for years, I started following this guy's sent protocol this year and low and behold I got MY FIST BIG BUCK!! Big ol ten pointer on public land in Kentucky with a bow. Thank, you for what you do and giving all this info for FREE! Foreal just email him and he'll send you EVERYTHING HE DOES, broke down in pdf files.
Must be nice to not have to worry about wind
Would like to hear more about your climbing methods. Pros, cons, and what you prefer in certain situations. Thanks again for sharing all your great knowledge and looking forward to more videos!
Great video again John! Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Experience like this is invaluable. Great video. Many thanks 🙏
Keep the videos coming John! Love it
This is great stuff John. Thanks for doing these. You're definitely a good teacher
I recently found out about you and have learned so much! I kill a lot of deer but your knowledge has opened my eyes to a brand new way of hunting. I just got my new saddle and am getting ready to order my scent lok suit! Hunting is my passion and it’s really awesome that you are sharing so many of your secrets. Thanks!!!!!
Thanks for the video... I want to start saddle hunting... and I only have public land to hunt on so I am grateful for you sharing you experience and knowledge...
Great information!! I appreciate the hands on how to on saddle hunting! Coming from a true technician!
GURU!!! That’s all there is to it great video thanks John 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you sir for sharing all you’re years of knowledge with us less experienced hunters. I also hunt in Michigan and you couldn’t be more correct about how pressured the deer are.
Another great video jon I watched your DVDs back the 90s read your book. I agree having tree block the deer's view is huge vary important!
I agree about 90% of what you said. Here's were I slightly disagree with you a little bit.
If you use a platform I like I do a ridge runner I use a wild edge and my climbing stick to move 360 degrees around the tree so you could consider it hybrid version of a ring of steps.
You use screw in steps or steps that have a strap that raps around the tree for public land. For the average hunter it seems a little impractical. It appears to me that take more to set up. I was listening one of your podcast and didn't say you get discount using those screw in steps correct me if I am wrong.
From my research from saddlehunter.com the one stick climbing method is the mobile and efficient way to climb a tree you can climb as high or low as want. You climb trees with branches and slanted trees. I used last year my time using a saddle. Tethered nation just put a really good video today on the one stick climbing method. Jason Garrett from tethered just put a video on the one stick climbing method. I plan buying a beast mini stick which probably weighs less than 1.5pounds. You can also use tethered versa straps to climb bigger trees with climbing sticks. I haven't seen a more mobile or light weight as the one stick climbing method.
Love the family intro. U blessed man!
Great video. I’ve been looking at platforms and this video was perfect. I will be following your recommendation and trying steps. Thanks for the tips
First time saddle hunter this year thanks to your video with exodus trail cams. Just an absolute wealth of knowledge! Hunting on a budget, but making every dollar stretch. Saved me 100 bucks on going with ROS instead of platform. Thank you for your videos
So glad I saw this one,just got my order in to try the saddle,looks like it’s going to be great.Thanks for sharing this video
Do you have any hunting videos
Really enjoy your videos. I think you sold me on saddle hunting. Funny I just got picked as you say it from a doe. There was a nice buck coming in behind her. Thinking if I was hunting with a saddle I could of got on other side of tree. Maybe things would of turned out different. I really like the idea of being more portable, not having to lug a stand around. Thanks again, I learned alot listening to you.
John and Joe, thank you very much for your time. When i saw the mom sent free mobile i was very impressed with your sent regiment,your practical attitude on setting up a hunt vehicle, and your general knowledge. I was so hoping for more vids with your tethrd pals, this is better thanks again!
Thanks Steve and I've pretty much been a solo hunter all my life and that is one reason for my success as I find in my home state that hunting with others is detrimental to success as it adds to the intrusion factor. Out of state, no problem and do so with my sons.
John can you tell me your preferred climbing method? Strap on single steps, screw in steps, climbing sticks, one stick,??
I’m a brand new Saddle Hunter and it’s been a challenge with the one stick …getting better but slowly
I purchased some climbing sticks & I prefer it but it’s a bigger pain in the ass taking them down.
I was really looking forward not to having to use screw in steps anymore getting rid of all my metal tree stands, I’d like to know how you’re doing it.
So refreshing to actually have a saddle hunter admit that those big movements are too much movement.
Thanks and most RUclips videos are by guys that haven't killed much concerning mature bucks in pressured areas where deer actually look for hunters in trees. I know to most that sounds far fetched, but it's true. Movements get picked, especially on the same side of the tree.
John it is so funny, years ago I watched your 3 pressured hunting dvds and thought to myself, there is no way in hell I would hunt like that. Well about 3 years ago I bought 2 different saddles and found them more comfortable than a tree stand and now look at how they have blown up portable hunting. Thanks for all knowledge you have passed down over the years, you definitely know your stuff! Bob from Michigan.
Just ordered my first saddle can’t wait to get started
You should do a video through the whole process of actually getting up the tree and attaching all your lines and stuff for us beginner hunters
Criss cross criss cross criss cross rabbit around the tree and trough the hole
Always good stuff John thank you
You got me started in saddle hunting way back when but the saddles were not too comfortable then although I did use it to kill 2 antelope in ND in knarly trees and nothing else would work. Great info as always John. Thank you Sir.
I am new to saddle hunting this year. After carrying lone wolf climbers and muddy hang on stands for a few years I decided to pull the trigger on a tethrd phantom. Really looking forward to the less weight and having way more options for trees to hunt out of. This is really helpful so I can be aware of how to do it right and avoid common mistakes.
A lot more saddle vids to come - John
Very good advice on trees. The correct tree gives a lot of cover.
Great detailed information.. thanks
Thanks for the video, new to saddle hunting, I often shook my head at some of the weak side shot videos on RUclips, you made it far simpler with cover and minimal movement
More great info! I would love to see more on the ring of steps, I used the screw in years ago and used to get annoyed with screwing them in all the time lol. I’m definitely looking into your saddle system for all the reasons you addressed ! Thank you!
I'm going to try some 17 inch Shakir sticks for climbing this season and will still use a ring at the top. If you used Ameristep steps, I would understand why you hated them, their a bitch to screw in.
And not legal on public in Michigan
Screw in steps
Nice informative video thanks. I’d love to see you guys do a video, carrying your stuff in from the vehicle or camp whatever show each step you take once you get to the tree, do the climb etc and using sticks and a platform or ring of steps etc. as a new saddle hunter I struggle with the steps I take and where I store equipment so that as I go up the tree the next item I need is accessible. This system has been difficult to master.
We will have a video of that in the future for sure - Joe
Thank you for the incredible information and god bless
Very good Informative RUclips. I would love to try one. I am a 71 year old female and this looks like the safest way to climb
So excited u finally started a channel
Where did you say that tree is 😆 lol
Great tips ....Thanks !!
That big white oak at 25:00, I didn’t see you until you popped out! Nice spot
I hunt a lot of public ground and the I swear the deer where I hunt can see you when you move your eyes. They walk around looking up in trees. I kill one or two mature bucks every season. I also have killed deer with previous hunter wounds. This will be my first year using a saddle. I’m watching all the videos I can before season starts in Alabama. Thanks for putting the good information out there. I do appreciate it.
John, I see how the DIY “wraptor” saddle mimics yours. It’s nice to see how someone actually use that style. It’s the most comfortable one I have tried so far. I like it better than the 2 commercial ones I have had. Nice tips, I also like a ROS vs platform.
Thanks 👍
There is no saddle like the ESS, some are close though.
This is great, the videos keep getting better. Someone out there needs to make an intro clip, photo montage, and music to bring it all home! G2Outdoors, Greg, where ya at?! The sound was great. The video was great, exposure adjustment great! Splicing in clips from previous video shoots, all great! We're all eager for more. Those Gumleaf boots look super comfortable! I really want me a pair. Thank you Eberhart family for all the great content!
This ain't hollywood, who gives a fuck about intro's. And John could probably care less too. He likes to get right to the meat and potatoes. I'm glad he's the way he is. Loving it.
@@mztd912 fair enough
You beat me to the reply I was going to use. We are a meat and potatos kind of family and I kinda like the way it just jumps right into it. It leaves more time for useful info rather then fillers to make more time - Joe
I was watching you John up in that work shop tree, your Vertigo Camo you would be ghost like , especially on that overcast day that was.
Excited to find your RUclips videos. Subscribed right away. Also, a Michigan State Land hunter for 50+ years and switching to saddle hunting this season with near full ScentLok gear.. Other than scent killer sprays, how do you minimize scent on your saddle and ropes?
I love that you are sharing your years of experience! I just purchased my first saddle and have not decided on a platform or steps yet. I love the idea of steps having better concealment and maneuverability but not sure my size 12 feet would be comfortable on them. Have you ever tried using the wild edge steps for a ring of steps? I think those may be a good in between once I figure out the rope weaving lol. I do not plan on leaving any presets out in the woods. I was thinking about trying three of those and using the top of a climbing stick if necessary on the backside
The best part about hunting with the saddle is I can hunt from many more trees than ever before
And all with the same saddle for the rest of your life. John
John - thank you for putting out some very awesome videos, and sharing your knowledge that you've gained over the years - priceless! At 27:10, I really don't like how that G-Hook on the left leg strap is just 1 centimeter away from popping out ( not to mention the amount of leverage placed on that small piece of metal ). I know some folks think that you're safe enough with just the waste strap, but not me. Secondly, I don't want that thing popping out and causing my body weight to shift with Mr Big Buck in bow range. Please be safe; I can only hope that I can be 1/10 as successful as you have in your bow hunting career - cheers!
Yes your correct Tim, I should have attached the clip better and when it is fastened correctly it doesn't come of. I don't use the leg straps so they're not a big deal to me. But I suggest that they be used. Many things I do or have done over the years have not been very safety oriented, but that is my choice after the fact of owning a saddle that is safe when used correctly and has insurance to prove it.
Thanks for video.
Thanks for the instructions. Sure it will be helpful. I’m in Gaylord. Will be following closely in the future.
Just got a sit drag to use for a saddle I’ve always been a ladder stand guy and I also hunt mi but I will see how I like it
For those watching who don't know, John Eberhart is the Godfather of this saddle hunting phenomenon, Greg & Ernie are Underboss & Consiglieri. When I first read Eberharts book, there were just about zero saddles on the market, so what's happening now is significant. He is the original, genuine article- this RUclips channel is way overdue. I still use my lone wolf climber most of the time, however, often there's a killer spot where you have to use a saddle for many reasons & if your not, you're missing out.
Thanks Man, appreciate the recognition.
The videos are as good as the books. Thanks for your contribution to our sport. I do have a suggestion on knowing more about how you do all day sits... Do you use any additional equipment? Do you prepare for avoiding or minimizing the need to use the bathroom? What kind of foods (if any) would you take with you?
Great question Tanner and a very important aspect of hunting in heavily pressured areas is all day sits in the right types of locations. Sometimes midday is a pressured bucks most vulnerable time. Of the 20 book bucks I've taken in Michigan between Nov. 1st and 14th (gun opener is the 15th), 7 were taken between 11 am and 3 pm which is about 35%. The interesting stat is that only 8% of my time spent on stand during Nov. 1st thru 14th was from 11 am to 3 pm so my percentage of kills during midday, far outweighed the normal morning and evening hunt kills.
With that being said, I do not take any additional equipment, Where i hunt during all day sits has to be very strategic and within some form of security cover, I take granola bars, chocolate bars and apples and sometimes a sandwich and everything is in ZipLok bags. I don't drink coffee that morning and try not to drink any water. I take 20 ounces of water and carry a 20 ounce pee bottle. And I can go 1 (in the bottle) or 2 (in a gallon ZipLok) from a saddle. If I'm close to a source of water, I have gotten down and went #2 in the water.
Another great video! Thank you for sharing. Im new to saddle hunting and this has taught me so much...one question, Do you not use knee pads or a rubber pad for your knees? Thats the only complaint I find with a saddle
Am I correct to assume that when you are prepping a tree, that you are making a hole so the screw in steps take far less time? Our public grounds do not allow screw in steps. My guess is that you also leave the steps around your final destination that help with your maneuvering for a potential shot instead of setup/takedown each trip.
That is excellent use of cover.
I love seeing how you pick your tree locations and the saddle's flexibility and maneuverability. I am sold! I ordered a Tethrd kit and will practice in my backyard. Question... on public land, I cannot screw anything into the tree. How are you mounting your footpegs into the tree? I ordered a Phantom platform.
Really glad I clicked on your video. So much valuable information in 35 minutes. Will be playing it again. Enjoyed. (Except for the shot of Grandpa John's butt in the beginning (lol).
Awesome information, John! For the public lands that do not allow screw-in steps, what is your preferred climbing method if you had to choose. In the video you said you're not a big fan of sticks. I've been playing around with DRT method and preset para-cord loops, but I'd like to hear your preference. Thanks!!
He is going to be using the shikar sticks this year and I will be using the beast sticks all with amsteel daisy chains and single step aiders. and we will couple those with the artisan mini platform on the top stick and a Cranford saddle scaffold. - Joe
Eberhart Outdoors awesome. Thanks for the reply!!
I would love for you to do a video showing and explaining how you climb large diameter/ barked trees. With both screw ins and I believe you mentioned spikes.
Example tree for me would be a cottonwood.
Kyle-The big leaning tree I was in and both trees I was preparing were big cottonwoods. In the south and west, they are my trees of choice. John
Thanks John. I believe you said in the video you take a little hatchet with and you use that to take I little bark off when prepping the tree? Do if so do you do the same prep if using tree climbers/spikes?
@@kylend4126 I quit using my Klein spikes years ago and when I did, i only used them in smooth barked trees where I would get a good bite with the spikes.
Got it! Thanks!
great vid. i dont knock anyone for the way they hunt. glad you didnt, i just agree with you about the turning in the tree. i like to keep a tree between me and the deer. i can be better at choosing trees though. have an issue with taking shots when there are alot of branches in the way or two trees close together. need to work on that to get better cover. ty much
I still have my two Anderson tree slings that I bought in the late 80s.
ive hunted with my anderson sling for many years and still do all the time..i wished sumone had a seat like the anderson sling and john now has it on a saddle so i cant wait to order one..
That's all it is,a modified Anderson tree sling. I can modify my sling just like that,but I'll waite and see what the price is for his.
@@doncaruso1949 there 200$ i was gonna try to modify my anderson sling but since they are non existent today to even find a used one i wont take the chance and possibly ruin mine..im buying johns on the 18th
I'd like to see how you prep a tree and then all the steps you take to hunt from when you first arrive at the tree to climb down. Thanks!
We will have some tree prep videos coming after season - Joe
Second this comment! Can’t wait!
John, have you ever crossbow hunted from a saddle? I would be interested in learning the best shooting positions that offer the most stability. Thanks for the great video!
Glad im not the only one that gets in early and catches some zzz's worst parts when that jerk happens and deer is below you lol...i waiting for an alarm that will pinch you at the time you set it lol sometimes vibrate doesnt do it
I've really been looking hard at the tree saddle setup lately, I have a climber and don't mind it when I use it, but it is bulky getting into tough areas. On my own property I build my own ladder stands out of wood, and I'm a carpenter so I have no worries about safety in a stand I built. I see forums of wood vs metal stands and suprised so many people say metal, I haven't found many comfortable metal stands, alot talk about$50-$100 metal stands which I doubt are comfortable for more then 30minutes. If you have to buy a hammer to build a stand, definitely buy a metal one haha. My only question with the tree saddle is can't you fall out head first? Like backwards? Usually harness goes over your shoulders and under and between your legs to prevent that, but with a saddle I guess I don't understand how you couldn't fall out upside down? Freaky things can happen. I like the weight, size, simplicity and all of the saddle and I'm really trying to do my homework on the saddle and if anyone has experience with it I would greatly appreciate your input thank you.
First time I ssw this I was like no way you can move around like that and not get picked , it was only after watching a different video where he talks about hunting height and about hunting in crotches of trees that it made sense , that was my lightbulb moment
John, I would love your opinion on the 1 stick climbing method for public land hunts.
Being the King of Saddle Hunting. I would like to know what you think about something. It's called the S.M.A.R.T. climbing method. I know you mostly use bolts and steps. I also realize that it's pretty easy for you. (This technique works with all saddle hunting climbing methods, but it makes them safer, and easier.) Imagine your heavy, and a little nervous. Then give it a try. I hope you do. I believe it's going to put an end to hunters falling out of trees.
I have to get an Eberhart Series Saddle!
It will be the most versatile and comfortable.
Eberhart Outdoors when are they up for sale and where can we purchase them
John, I am starting saddle hunting this year. I like to use a crossbow because my eyes make my pins blurry and doubled on my compound. I am having a heck of a time reloading a crossbow in the saddle (I do not have a crank)
I totally get it. My pins on my bow have been blurry for about 20 years but I just put the right blurry pin on the deer's chest and let go. Deer are big targets when 90 plus % of your shots are under 20 yards. Concerning the crossbow, I have no clue and if you went on the saddle hunter talk forum, I'm certain you could get a good response from someone that does it. John
one of the things you can do is get a clarifier peep for your bow it will cear up your pins and get rid of the double vision, or you can get the aftermarket crank for your crossbow possibly as most manufacturers make one - Joe
@@eberhartoutdoors4219 I just got a new pair of glasses. Progressive lenses. Holy crap. Now I see only 1 target and clear, discrete pins. What a concept! I thought about a crank but was hoping to avoid all that. Seems like they are kind of a hassle anyway.
I love the EZ V sight I have--no pins and a very instinctual method to use--it works great for me.
Nice video. We all have different approaches and tend to perfect that which we like. You couldn't pay me to give up my Predator platform for a mobile ROS. Since I cant hunt 30+ feet I dont go the scent lock route so I hunt the wind and I pick my set ups based off wind. I shoot a longbow and hunt from 6-18 foot most of the time, I dont get busted much and I have to draw while the deer is fully visable.
I think the Predator is fine as long as there are steps behind thew tree to maneuver on. Just see so many vids of hunters that only have a platform and I don't get that at all.
You can always combine the steps with the platform. You just need to add the steps which can be ordered individually from Cranford - Joe
Ru still true to your original roots John.
Well that one is simplict
Hey John enjoy your vids. Question I try these but they hurt my hip joints. I’m 6’4 weight 250 38” waist. Any advice on tether system.
Can a 71 year old with some lower back issues who needs lower back support hunt out of your saddle, when never even seen one to touch let alone use? I definitely see the advantages and for the last 30+ years have shot most of the deer from a seated position since I set up my stands that way. I just need the mobility now because I can no longer carry heavy stands and sticks into the woods any distance, anymore. Thanks
John, how would you suggest attaching a ring of Cranford steps with a ratchet strap quietly? The ratchet itself isn’t too bad, but the noise from the steps is terrible. I’m sure I’m doing something incorrectly, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for the advice!
hockey tape or stealth strips seems to work good. and if you ratchet slow it is pretty quiet - Joe
What do you think of DRT climbing, pretty cool , but obviously you got put preset parachord out so when you come in your not trying too Chuck a throw line over limb
For us that is too much exertion and would cause you to sweat to much with our trees being preset we can be in the tree in no time.
Great examples using different types of trees. I will say not advertising your hunting location by not using tree stands means someone may put up a treestand near your tree.
On public here, most hunters will intrude anyway and having a stand in a tree lets them know to check over the area in finer detail.
Thanks. Can you share how you climb the tree?
Yes, we have a couple shows on climbing apparatus's that will air soon.
Can you do a video where you set up a tree like you would a public land hunt? I bought the cranford rope steps and ring of steps because you recommended them but I don’t see how you set them up quietly with a ratchet strap on the ring of steps and all the metal steps.
That will be coming when we do the steps and sticks videos that are done, but not sure when we will air them. The ratchet makes some noise and you can take the steps off the strap and put them on whatever other strap you like better. Cranford just won't sell any products that they feel are not safe and many cam lok straps are not.
Another vote for a ring of steps video. I would make the switch from a platform if they would be comfortable on my feet.
Tethrd has a sale right now on their ESS. Thinking of ordering now. What size ropes do you recommend for lineman and tether?
How do you treat your saddle for scent control?
Hi John. Do you wear kneepads when you saddle hunt? If so, do you spray them with Scent Killer? Do you spray your saddle and ropes with anything, since Scentlok doesn't make saddles?
Yes I use an old pair of Trophyline knee pads and wash them at the beginning of each season and keep them in my ScentLok pack when not hunting. I think Trophyline still offers them.
@@eberhartoutdoors4219 thanks John.
Still waiting to hear about your experience with climbing sticks
John,
Another awesome insightful video especially for new saddle hunters like myself. You mentioned your not a fan of sticks so I am curious what is your climbing method and prepping procedures especially public vs private?
I will be using the 17 inch Shakir sticks as they are small. The reason I have not been a sticks fan is because they are cumbersome to carry.
@@eberhartoutdoors4219 .. you're plenty young to get into the one-sticking game
I would like some suggestions on how to hunt public land with virtually no crops nearby.
That will come in time. John
John. When are the saddles going to be available? I assume order at Tetrd?
Sept 10th
John, can you cover screw in spikes vs using big nails? I use a ring of steps but my only complaint is my feet start to hurt after a while of leaning on that step and i find im moving more to adjust for comfort. I seen in your tree you have 2 nails per foot rest and im assuming its to spread the weight on the sole of your foot for comfort. any more info on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the videos!
That video is done and will be released in time. We have 35 shows already filmed.
Eberhart Outdoors awesome! Thanks!
I only have spikes when I can and most trees I've hunted over the years are screw ins and strap ons for the ring. If your feet are getting sore the simple solution is to let out a couple inches of lead which will put most of your weight in the saddle seat. You should in a seated position when hunting with knees bent about 30 degrees, you shouldn't be standing.
Eberhart Outdoors I’ll give that a try. Thanks for the advice!
I'm curious what you keep your feet on to allow you to go around the tree? What's the product name?
Sorry. I saw the answer when I finished watching the video.
What do you use most often to climb public trees. You mentioned you did not like sticks
I use Cranfords strap-on steps and this year I will also be using Out on a Limb's Shakir 17 inch sticks because they pack small.
@@eberhartoutdoors4219 actually when the steps are folded up its a pretty long stick at least 24 inches, but they do pack tight.
How would you use a ring of steps on a leaning tree? Wouldn't the angle of the tree make it difficult to use a ring of steps since the steps will be angled? Or is that not a concern?
The strap can be set at a angle to compensate to a degree
That's an excellent question and you can't use the Cranford ratchet ring or any ring for that matter on a hard leaning tree. You would have to use individual strap on steps.
Hey John.I have a bad back.How long can I sit before my back is killing me?
I have a few friends that have bad backs and sciatica and they all love their saddles and are glad they made the switch. They can sit longer and with less movement now - Joe
I think that is a ropeman isn’t it,,do you prefer that over a prusik knot,,looks a lot easier,,I mean a lot easier,,but is the reliability there like a prusik
Hi John, You obviously trust the ropeman 1 completely. Do you believe there is any merit to people saying they aren't safe?
We wanna hear your total arrow weight and what kind of broadheads u shoot
nice
U look like a thunderhead kind of guy.
John shoot 28in maxima reds with a 100gn G5 stryker broadhead. He doesn't weigh his arrow so without weighing it myself i can only estimate the total weight. he is also shooting 50 to 55lbs draw weight and a 27 in draw. I shoot victory vap elites 29inch overall length with a 50gn outsert and 100gn broadhead ( either dirt nap drt or magnus stinger buzzcuts, total arrow weight on these is 390gn with a 18% FOC. my other arrows are the same but with a stainless steel outsert weighing 100gn which puts my arrow overall to 440gn. I also fletch them myself with 2in razor feathers rather then vanes which helps with the FOC. I shoot 62 draw weight and 29 in length. - Joe
What foot pegs do you use ?
Does the ring is steps make much noise ratcheting onto the tree?
I got one of those silent approach step ring and I like...no noise.
Yes, it is a typical ratchet strap and Cranford will not sell a camlock strap because they are not as safe. You can put the steps on any strap you want.
Eberhart Outdoors thank you sir
If you are freelancing and need to worry about the sound of the ratchet you can do it slow enough to not make hardly any noise - Joe
I bought the Cranford Saddle Scaffold when it came out. I found that if you work the ratchet very slowly that it can be tightened without making enough noise to disturb a deer.
some of the positions for taking a shot that John demonstrates won't work with shooting a canted longbow or recurve.
John, how does that Cranford ring of steps fasten to the tree? I bought one ring of steps two years ago which used a ratchet strap as a fastener. Biggest piece of crap i ever bought and it completely steered me away from every wanting to get a ring of steps ever again.
I'm afraid they use a ratchet strap which is noisy to use, however they are more concerned about liability. You can put the steps on any strap and buckle system you want and many are putting them on a camlock strap which doesn't make noise but doesn't tighten as much and the buckle is not as strong. Sell them and try something else. I just don't like the limitations of a platform and on big trees they don't work as stand alone pieces as you can't move around the tree.
What are the advantages/disadvantages of arms length vs eye height tether? You alluded to already covering it at the beginning of this video. Where was it covered? Thank you.
That will be on an upcoming video that was taken before this episode but at the same place. The reason is that at arms length the lead will not allow your upper body to lean forward because the lead is in your face while hunting, it also hampers your shot because you have to lift your drawing arm up over the lead in front of you. With a lower hook up at eye or nose level, the lead is angled more directly at the tree so your arm automatically goes over the lead when drawing and you can lean forward to have less stress on your lower back. It';s also more comfortable with a lower hook-up because your not sitting straight down into the seat but rather leaning back into it..
Hey John, What tree spikes do you use as climbing steps?
Go watch his mommy wagon of death video, goes over all of that. Cranford if I recall and sometimes big spikes meaning nails
J Huntley love that video
That video shows screw in steps. You can see in this video he has spikes driven in by a hammer at several different points.
@@xxbryan715xx ya some of the screw in steps are amerasteps some are cranford
They are 10inch common spikes. We drill into the tree with a 3/8 drill bit and a cordless drill to drill the holes about 4 inches into the tree insert the spike and set it with a hammer hatchet - Joe
What about "nature call"? What to do when you need to pee?
He uses a large mouth bottle
How can I get your tree saddle system? Thanks 👍
It will be available through Tethrd on Sept. 10th - Joe