Bought this for my small back deck in the Eastern Sierra. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxoHYZbq5g9fkcAtinlTqstNlje-UQkCHN We get A LOT of HEAVY snow so I was a bit skeptical but it was worth it! After the first storm of the year this has exceeded expectations! It throws snow very well, even 10-12” + that said the more it piles up the harder it is to maneuver the machine. It is exceptionally light weight and overall exactly what I was looking for. If you have a large amount of snow and a lot of area to clear, you may consider something with a drive engine to help maneuverability, but for decks, second stories, roofs etc, you can’t beat the light weight to great snow throwing ratio. Side note, the chute rotator is a bit flimsy and it initially didn’t seem to work, after a few uses it seems to have loosened up.
”Without a moment's hesitation, my Snow Joe tackled the heaviest of our latest snow. do7.pl/Snow AND it is light enough to carry around to the patio as well. The cord is not a problem if you stretch it out before you start. I highly recommend it!”
Just raring to duplicate this delightful, impressive demonstration with my new, very same Greenworks unit, waiting in the garage, (used only once for 1 inch). Come on snow storm (I'm in my 70's) - what's keeping you? Lovely visual and sound too! Thanks for this real workout review!
Good review. So if Greenworks would add a plug-in option for when the battery dies, they would have a better product. I can tell that the Greenworks has more power and is working harder, but the trade-off is short battery life. I would not want to stop halfway to let the battery charge when I could plug in and finish. Or buy two very expensive 80V batteries. Having both options makes it easier for larger driveways without having miles of electrical cord.
+NonyaBusiness! By now there are multiple companies making them, so probably the bigger ones will be around. One safeguard is to add the blower to a personal property insurance policy. Battery degredation is a problem long term, but it is easier to replace a battery than an engine and batteries get cheaper. A corded blowers would provide the reliability of electric without a battery.
If you're blowing snow with a snow blower for more than 25 minutes something is wrong. This isn't meant to do multiple driveways just a 4 car driveway at the most.
I needed a small snowblower to clear my 24’ x 24’ deck with composite boards I have a 10 hp gas craftsman for the drive way. I thought about the hybrid by snow Joe bit I settled on an all electric snow Joe with 21” width and 14 amp motor the big box store was blowing them out after rebate for $150. Haven’t used it yet just wanted to be ready for our Wisconsin winters. After putting it together I can tell it’s cheaply made can only hope with a little care that it lasts several winters. I’ll let you know.
*Great* review! As close as I can get to actually using these two machines myself. After reading a ton of user reviews, this is what I needed to see: the products in action in the real world. I had a pretty small, low-powered gas thrower for years that got the job done on my 100-foot, rural Iowa driveway, so this video gives me some good basis for comparison. ********** I switched to a Kobalt battery-powered lawn mower last summer...and I ain't going back to gas. With winter upon us, I started considering going electric with a snow thrower, at least as a light-duty and backup machine, and from the admittedly rather small field narrowed it down to these two models. I'm glad I went with the 80-volt lawn mower, and based on the evidence in this video, IF I pull the trigger on the snow thrower, I'm going with the Greenworks. I just wish Kobalt made one, so I could use the batteries for my mower! ********** Anyway, great work, Mr Tesla, and thanks for taking the time and effort to make this video to help folks like me.
Looks like the Kobalt version has been released in Canada, but still not the US. I can't find any info about if it is coming to the US. I would also like to use the batteries from the lawnmower.
@@RogerSnyder Just for the sake of discussion, Lowes has the Kobalt version now. I have a Kobalt lawnmower, which I'm fine with, but I didn't much care for the sound of reviews I read on the snowblower. I like the idea of the power cord back up on the Joe Blow.
Andrew Frankovic Thanks for the info. I did find out they brought it to the US, and when they started selling it without batteries, bought one. We only had two snowstorms last year, a freak early one I drove in from hundreds of miles away, and it all melted the next day, and the other one the snowblower worked fine on. I don’t have a huge driveway, and it wasn’t super deep, (8 inches maybe?) but it was good for me.
Also, the LED light uses hardly any energy, negligible compared to power needed to move snow. In fact, the light still works even after the blower can no longer move
I think you have to also consider the size and the amount of snow they take in. 20in/80 volt vs 18in/40 volt. 80 volt blower still has more power, but certainly not double.
I know you prefer the Greenworks. Interestingly enough, validated by this video, I'm recommending the Snow Joe for my 80 year old parents. I feel it'll be easier for them to manuver. If the snow gets too heavy for the snow joe, that's when we pay the neighbors.
I do not need to push my Ariens Path Pro 21 single stage snow thrower. The impeller clears the snow and at the same time it propels it forward. I can use mine with one hand it is that easy. No one ever says if the impeller propels a battery snow thrower regardless of the brand in any of these reviews.
I wondered that. I mean I do see ppl pushing gas single stage blowers hard, but they do seem to have to self grab. Agree this does not happen on electric ones. Although some have rubberized metal augers, so I wonder if they do. Also, the plastic impellers are probably spinning way faster than the gas single stage ones
I have older model snow Joe the upgrades on new models are Awsome. I believe Electric will out Do Gas in future one day you will be able to control Blower sipping on your favorite Coffee.
Eh maybe but not anytime soon on a mass scale for two reasons. One USA power limits with household circuits. Second batteries are expensive and heavy, to get one that could do the work of a gas blower would be very heavy and just not economical right now.
@@BioniqBob There is a Kickstarter out there for a fully-autonomous blower (the autonomous part mates with a snow blower attachment, a mower attachment, and a leaf blower attachment if I recall). A bit pricey, but the tech is coming. Yes, that means batteries, which are heavy/expensive, but if the blowing is being done "for me" in the middle of the night while I sleep I don't mind so much if the unit needs to dock up a few times before finishing the drive down to the street. Until those prices come down and the tech is perfected, though, a beefy battery blower (which can deliver far more power than from a 15A power cord) and ~16Ah of batteries looks about right to clear my long winding and hilly drive to the road. I just need to be walking behind it to guide where it goes!
Good report! I worry about that plastic impeller but being lighter weight might give you some advantage. In Nebraska we get similar types of snowfall so I know where you're coming from.
I wanted to see one actually work. I live in Canada and I bought a little Sno Joe and it died halfway through my driveway on its inaugural snowfall. I was trying to save money. I ended up getting a 2 stage gas blower after and am thankful I did. I could clear that driveway in a lot less time, and with way more snow.
+SuperJohnMontana yeah, Greenworks is definitely a step up in terms of power compared to snow joe. Snow joe has the only dual stage Li-ion blower though.
Great Vid showing what these can do. I own a small corded electric blower which I only used 2-3x a year on a 4 car drive. So ended up buying the Snow-Joe for $168USD.
The trade off with the snow joe model he is using is that you can use an extension cord and it will double the power you need to remove the snow. Plus it gets the snow better on the pavement.
Problem with this review is that you are comparing a 80v to a 40v. Why not use the Sno Joe 100w…. That’s what I have and I can tell from this video it would eat the Greenworks. You need to compare equal output machines.
I get this a lot. Snow Joe didn't have it's 100v line back when vid was made, and their dual stage at the time was a whole different price. Also, volts isn't the same as power (P=VI)
You forgot to mention that the Greenworks 80v has a 20in Auger housing vs the SnowJoe's 40v 18in Auger housing. That 2 inches can make a difference. Good review though.
First, I want to say, I appreciate the side by side comparison. I am interested in purchasing one of these two machines, and seeing both in a variety of situations is beneficial. My only question is, "Which do you prefer to use and favor?"
I prefer Greenworks bc it felt more powerful and I already have the batteries for other tools. Snow Joe does have other blowers, like its dual stage, which is more powerful but more expensive, too.
If comparing an 18"/40V is fair to a 20"/80V is fair, I put it to you that pitting the Greenworks vs a 21"/80V SnowJoe would also be interesting an enlightning for many. I own a ION21SB-CT - and since I live in Quebec city, not many see the kinds of weather we do. This unit really kills it. The basic 80V/4A batteries were ok, but the newer 80V/6A I highly recommend. Since like with all things, we are also blessed with -20C or worse) - we need the extra endurance of the latter.
Hi T, you are right - it's actually a dual-stage .. we have too many things going on to consider a single-stage : unfinished driveway, deep snow, 4 car parking space (+ side deck & entrance) and the cold. ps : i think they've just discontinued my exact model, but there must be other similar 21" model on their site.
My only comment would be the Snow Joe was stated in the video to be an 18" capacity and I would assume a little less powered automatically because of the reduced width. They do make Snow Joe models in 20" length the same as Green Works so perhaps a do over with both brands using a 20" capacity model would be an honestly fair comparison?
Hello Juztn, the thing with this "review" is that he is comparing a 40 vs 80v and an 18" vs 20".. Yes SnowJoe does make 21" and 80V products .. that's what I use.
They've changed it up - all I could find now is this : www.snowjoe.com/products/snow-joe-ion-40-volt-cordless-18-inch-brushless-snow-blower-winter-warrior-bundle
Teslaevangelist, thanks for the great footage of both and your thoughts. You mentioned in one comment that the Greenworks lasted about a half hour. Was that in heavy snow? Nice Model S by the way.
+M Ahern 30min would be light to medium. Currently, after three years or so, the battery will last 15min in really heavy snow, but I have multiple batteries.
I have 26 gas powered for my large driveway in woods of WNY BUT I need something lighter and easier for my large back deck . I have used my cub cadet but even with a cabin, heated hand grids power steering, it's hard on hands and neck. I am considering an lighterweight electric say 20" for deck even though we get a ton of snow that can be very heavy at times and comes down fast . My thought is a corded lighter weight might work as long as I use it more frequently . Ntm I recently stained tye deck and don't want to mess it up
I loved my Greenworks until it died. I bought it in Jan 2015 and the mother board crapped out on me. It would not stay on longer than 3 seconds. The CSN rep said we can send you the part when it comes in. I took it back to Lowe's and got a Gas Snowblower again...
one thing i noticed.. with the greenworks you are pushing it more where with the snow joe you are rolling it more. check out the rear wheels in the wet snow portion. the green works barely roll while joe's spins rather well. I'd speculate a 20" snow joe would would give you nearly the same performance in dryer snow, maybe a bit less in wet while being easier to push. (the 20' versions of each are the same price range) but i have no first hand experience with either. Great video btw. seeing them actually run and how the different brands work is really helpful even if it isn't a great 1:1 comparison. I like the corded option as well even though i'd probably never use it.
Thanks for the feedback. I replaced the scraper blade on the Greenworks in a later video after which I didn't need to push as much. Some areas on the driveway in the video were compressed by our cars so it also doesn't scraper those areas too well.
I finally just bought a home and living in MN we all need a snow blower. lol. Been looking into a smaller cheaper one since my driveway isn't all that big. I wanted something with battery because i didn't want to deal with gas and cords. It seems these two are the most popular ones. that snow joe at the end there with the heavier wet snow seemed like it came through and cleaned up after the Greenworks. haha. it does clean up better than the greenworks. I wouldn't mind purchasing the snow joe for the slower but cleaner look. also i just looked up the extra battery and holly cow its expensive! i rather have a longer battery and the option to switch to cord. Awesome review though!
The rubber blades do sweep the concrete a bit better, but my greenworks did better at scraping again once I replaced the worn scraper blade. Also, snowjoe now has more powerful blowers than when I did this review
I think you have to compare watts. Multiplying the max volts times the max amps gives the wattage (or power) of the motor. Sometimes you can find the amps in the specs.
At that time I only had the 2.5 amh battery which came with the blower. The 4.0aH can be used, but it sticks out the back. Greenworks newer blower can use larger batteries, though
Could you comment on how hard or easy it is to push these around. I've worked with 2 electric corded snowblowers, a Toro 1800 and a Chinese-made one somewhat comparable, although half the price. The Toro is quite light (although 15A) and was much easier to push and maneuver in tight areas, as well to carry around. No electric snowblowers have power to the wheels, AFAIK. I'd think the 2 battery powered snow blowers would be pretty heavy. OK if you've got the muscle, or working on nice level surfaces with no tight turns, maybe. BTW, the Toro died after 3 seasons and not much heavy use. Nice machine, not very durable.
Great video of a real world test!!! The thing that has kept me from buying one of these for my dad is where I live some years we get a decent amount of snow and some years hardly any. So, how many years will the batteries last when they are used so seldom? I mean if you have to re-purchase every 3 or 4 years then that makes it much less attractive as compared to a small gas blower.
that's a good point, and my battery has lost some juice over 3-4 years. but I use the same batteries for their other yard work tools which means they don't sit idle all year. but, that's also a larger investment into the system
Aren't those Greenworks units the ones that tend to get all bunged up a lot and fail with many of them returned? They seem to rank lower in reviews at shopping sites.
Is the Greenworks quiet enough to use late at night and early in the morning so I don't wake my sleeping next door neighbors? Is it hard to push up a driveway that has a slight incline?
I think any electric blower is quiet enough because they are all so much quieter than gas ones. For fluffy snow, pushing uphill isn't a big deal. If it is thick heavy snow, you could just push downhill, walk backup, and push downhill again.
@@Teslavangelist Thanks for the info. I'd use it for lighter/fluffier snow under 6", and use my noisy 2-stage gas powered Ariens for anything deeper/heavier. Is this the one that you bought? I'm surprised it only has a 3.5 rating. www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/greenworks-2600402-pro-80v-20-in-snow-thrower-with-2ah-battery-and-charger?cm_vc=-10005 I'm now thinking of buying this higher-rated 60V model with 6 Ah battery and 60 minute runtime. www.homedepot.com/p/Greenworks-PRO-60-Volt-20-in-Single-Stage-Cordless-Electric-Snow-Blower-with-6-0-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-2608702/314810984
Yes, I have the 80v. The 60v line came out more recently, so I don't have experience with it. A 6Ah battery is great. That could probably do heavy snow for a solid hour
@@Teslavangelist I'll order the 60V model since I can definitely use the extra runtime. Thanks again, Merry Christmas! ruclips.net/video/ahLEIGf4_sU/видео.html
That happened to me with wet snow if it's too heavy, but not too often. I don't have a fix, but may look into using a cooling spray in the chute to make it slick?
In what real world is this a fair review. You need to put an 80 volt Snow Joe up against the Greenworks. Am I the only one noticing the obvious issue here?
@@Teslavangelist thanks for the prompt reply and info. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks. Just purchased a 22 inch corded Snow Joe. It beats the heck out of shoveling. I fear not the cord.
Snowjoe was the worst purchase of my life. Probably was the worst financial mistake of my life. Never EVER buy a snowjoe or a sunjoe. They do not honor their warranty. Their product's fail by the 6th use. They do not stand by their products and their quality is absolutely the most abysmal. I don't think I have ever made a worse purchase in my life. I didn't return it to the store in time because my father was ill in the hospital if you have to know.
1) This is like comparing an 8 cylinder car to a 4 cylinder car. 2) Model #'s? On these "new technology" products, a years model number can be a world of difference. 3) You did not state the battery specs, but I am guessing 40v @ 4amps, and 80 volt @ 2 amps. That would mean the same watt hours, but 80 volts would deliver power faster and more efficiently. So again, not apples to apples.
finally somebody has seen what I was seeing. How can you compare 80 volt to a 40 volt. Next he will be comparing a vw to a indy car. Hey they both have 4 wheels. :)
I get this a lot. Volts is only one component of power, so 40v is not half as powerful, it's just what Snow Joe uses. At the time, the only more powerful Snow Joe was the $800 dual stage blower, which is an entirely different class of blower and much more expensive that the Greenworks, so that would not be a fair comparison.
Seesh. That snow joe is sounding weak as hell🤣 i have a 80v greenworks 22” so the newer version. Much better than that one. it rolls better and throws far. I love it .
I saw the new one in Costco. So tempting! I noticed the propeller is now made of metal and rubber. But, mine still is going, and we don't get enough snow for me to justify replacing it yet
Yeah... I always find the best way to clear snow is to blow it onto the snow I haven’t yet cleared so each sweep becomes progressively more difficult. Very strange method.
80v 20" vs 40v 18" terrible comparison, If you're going to compare 2 machines, they should be the same.... of course the Greenworks will outperform the Snow Joe it has double the power... duhhhh....
Real world comparison of a 40V system and an 80V system? What the hell are you talking about? Either compare 2-40v systems or 2-80v systems. You can’t mix and call it a fair comparison.
First of all, the price point is roughly the same. Snow Joe's dual stage 80v is $800 with the battery and more powerful, as is their new 100v single stage. Second, volts does not equal power. Greenworks is 80v. Most of SnowJoe is 40v. Ego is 56v.
@@grumpycyclist3319 Call Greenworks Customer Support yourself. Worst case, if CS doesn't help, file a BBB complaint. If you are in warranty, GreenWorks (in my experience) will send out a whole new unit if individual parts aren't available.
Snow Jo makes an 80V, why didn't you compare like units? You claim Green had more power, of course it did, it's a more powerful unit. Compare Apples to Apples as they say, not Apples to Oranges!
Teslavangelist That may be true, but you can't expect a 40V unit to have the power of an 80V unit! You should have compared an 80v of some other brand, or a 40v Green single stage blower to be fair
Did you try the Snow Joe with the cord plugged in. In another test I watched, it had a lot more power with the cord for heavy snow, or extended plowing.
I live in British Columbia canada. I bought the 14.5 amp snowjoe today it lasted all of 1 second took it back and got a replacement and it lasted 45 seconds. Home depot asked if I would like to try it the third time I said no thanks. I was afraid that even if it worked how long would it last. So I'm looking for a plan B
motor size is based on voltage amount. I speculate that the battery is not truly 40v but 36V and when plugging in, the power supply is probably 40v giving you maximum power the motor can provide.
@@bigmoose4566 I'm in MN, and used a 13amp corded Snow Joe for a couple years. Still works great. One thing to be sure of: use a heavy gauge cord. I use a 12 gauge for the 100ft cord. If the wire is too thin it will not work properly and will burn out the motor fairly quickly.
Not sure about snow Joe, but my Greenworks battery feels like about 60-70% of new capacity (the 2ah battery) after 4-5yrs. I actually have 3 batteries, though, so I use the oldest one the most and the newer ones if old one runs out too soon. I also use the battery in summer with my lawn mower so it gets a lot of use.
I have owned a Greenworks 40 V lawn mower since 2011 - it has been amazing the battery has been a non issue, it has never let me down, super easy to use and light to push around. I've moved and have a double long driveway, would never consider a gas blower, eats up too much real-estate in the garage and hate the fumes / maintenance / trip to get gas and stabilizers was considering getting a Greenworks snow blower, an really appreciate your review and the comments of everyone here... I have added the Greenworks to my Black Friday wish list :)
I'm with ya. The 70's Craftsman track drive is a great blower. I'm running a Ariens with a good ol' Tecumseh motor. It'll run as long as your Craftsman. It was a very sad day when Tecumseh got tossed aside. Top notch quality, built in America, competitive price. Ruined by short sighted idiots.
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Bought this for my small back deck in the Eastern Sierra. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxoHYZbq5g9fkcAtinlTqstNlje-UQkCHN We get A LOT of HEAVY snow so I was a bit skeptical but it was worth it! After the first storm of the year this has exceeded expectations! It throws snow very well, even 10-12” + that said the more it piles up the harder it is to maneuver the machine. It is exceptionally light weight and overall exactly what I was looking for. If you have a large amount of snow and a lot of area to clear, you may consider something with a drive engine to help maneuverability, but for decks, second stories, roofs etc, you can’t beat the light weight to great snow throwing ratio. Side note, the chute rotator is a bit flimsy and it initially didn’t seem to work, after a few uses it seems to have loosened up.
”Without a moment's hesitation, my Snow Joe tackled the heaviest of our latest snow. do7.pl/Snow AND it is light enough to carry around to the patio as well. The cord is not a problem if you stretch it out before you start. I highly recommend it!”
Thank you! Even with heavy & large amount snow like WNY? IM LOOKING FOR BIG DECK rather than fight with large cub I use for driveway
The neighbor: "Honey, come quick! Our neighbor is using two snowblowers at the same time.. again!"
LMFAO 🤣🤣
Lmaaoooooo
Why did I read this in Phil Helmuth’s voice lol. Honey , he called the raise with Queen 10
Just raring to duplicate this delightful, impressive demonstration with my new, very same Greenworks unit, waiting in the garage, (used only once for 1 inch). Come on snow storm (I'm in my 70's) - what's keeping you? Lovely visual and sound too! Thanks for this real workout review!
The 22" dual battery Pro snow blower by Greenworks Rocks. I just purchased the 60v tool only for $279 on sale. 30% off $399.
This is perfect. I narrowed it down to these two blowers I wanted. Thanks. Keep up the good work.
i live in arizona idk why im watching this
+Brennie4HOCKEY I live in Hawaii and I;m watching,
dan Hamakua lol at least we know
I live in Brazil..and watching this..kkkk
Maybe you live in Flagstaff!
I live in SC where i need to worry more about grass and leaves than snow
Good review. So if Greenworks would add a plug-in option for when the battery dies, they would have a better product. I can tell that the Greenworks has more power and is working harder, but the trade-off is short battery life. I would not want to stop halfway to let the battery charge when I could plug in and finish. Or buy two very expensive 80V batteries. Having both options makes it easier for larger driveways without having miles of electrical cord.
+NonyaBusiness! By now there are multiple companies making them, so probably the bigger ones will be around. One safeguard is to add the blower to a personal property insurance policy.
Battery degredation is a problem long term, but it is easier to replace a battery than an engine and batteries get cheaper. A corded blowers would provide the reliability of electric without a battery.
If you're blowing snow with a snow blower for more than 25 minutes something is wrong. This isn't meant to do multiple driveways just a 4 car driveway at the most.
@@TheLostCat2000 Yeah, more than 25 minutes and you're probably stuck living in the REAL world, battling to keep the wolves off your chickens,..
to be fair if you just get another battery they fully charge in 30 mins so you can basically go non-stop
I needed a small snowblower to clear my 24’ x 24’ deck with composite boards I have a 10 hp gas craftsman for the drive way. I thought about the hybrid by snow Joe bit I settled on an all electric snow Joe with 21” width and 14 amp motor the big box store was blowing them out after rebate for $150. Haven’t used it yet just wanted to be ready for our Wisconsin winters. After putting it together I can tell it’s cheaply made can only hope with a little care that it lasts several winters. I’ll let you know.
$150 seems to be pretty close to the normal price, Amazon and Walmart both had them for $99 last month with free shipping.
*Great* review! As close as I can get to actually using these two machines myself. After reading a ton of user reviews, this is what I needed to see: the products in action in the real world. I had a pretty small, low-powered gas thrower for years that got the job done on my 100-foot, rural Iowa driveway, so this video gives me some good basis for comparison. **********
I switched to a Kobalt battery-powered lawn mower last summer...and I ain't going back to gas. With winter upon us, I started considering going electric with a snow thrower, at least as a light-duty and backup machine, and from the admittedly rather small field narrowed it down to these two models. I'm glad I went with the 80-volt lawn mower, and based on the evidence in this video, IF I pull the trigger on the snow thrower, I'm going with the Greenworks. I just wish Kobalt made one, so I could use the batteries for my mower! **********
Anyway, great work, Mr Tesla, and thanks for taking the time and effort to make this video to help folks like me.
Looks like the Kobalt version has been released in Canada, but still not the US. I can't find any info about if it is coming to the US. I would also like to use the batteries from the lawnmower.
@@RogerSnyder Just for the sake of discussion, Lowes has the Kobalt version now. I have a Kobalt lawnmower, which I'm fine with, but I didn't much care for the sound of reviews I read on the snowblower. I like the idea of the power cord back up on the Joe Blow.
Andrew Frankovic Thanks for the info. I did find out they brought it to the US, and when they started selling it without batteries, bought one.
We only had two snowstorms last year, a freak early one I drove in from hundreds of miles away, and it all melted the next day, and the other one the snowblower worked fine on. I don’t have a huge driveway, and it wasn’t super deep, (8 inches maybe?) but it was good for me.
@@RogerSnyder Would that be the 40 volt 20 inch model?
Andrew Frankovic The 80 volt 22 inch model.
10:25 why drag it back to the street instead of turning the chute and plowing your way to it?
comparing a 40 volt to an 80 volt ???
rick The Greenworks had a lot more power - well duh! The battery is twice that of the Snow Joe. C’mon Man!
Volts doesn't equal power, that's why there's so many different voltages sold. Either way, prices were similar.
Power = volts x amps, not just volts.
Also, the LED light uses hardly any energy, negligible compared to power needed to move snow. In fact, the light still works even after the blower can no longer move
I think you have to also consider the size and the amount of snow they take in. 20in/80 volt vs 18in/40 volt. 80 volt blower still has more power, but certainly not double.
I know you prefer the Greenworks. Interestingly enough, validated by this video, I'm recommending the Snow Joe for my 80 year old parents. I feel it'll be easier for them to manuver. If the snow gets too heavy for the snow joe, that's when we pay the neighbors.
So you compare a 40 to 80 volt. Gee I wonder what one has more power? Looks like the Snow Joe held it’s own to me.
Do you think an 80V snow joe would have been comparable?
12:40 To skip to his final thought
I do not need to push my Ariens Path Pro 21 single stage snow thrower. The impeller clears the snow and at the same time it propels it forward. I can use mine with one hand it is that easy. No one ever says if the impeller propels a battery snow thrower regardless of the brand in any of these reviews.
I wondered that. I mean I do see ppl pushing gas single stage blowers hard, but they do seem to have to self grab. Agree this does not happen on electric ones. Although some have rubberized metal augers, so I wonder if they do. Also, the plastic impellers are probably spinning way faster than the gas single stage ones
I have older model snow Joe the upgrades on new models are Awsome. I believe Electric will out Do Gas in future one day you will be able to control Blower sipping on your favorite Coffee.
Eh maybe but not anytime soon on a mass scale for two reasons. One USA power limits with household circuits. Second batteries are expensive and heavy, to get one that could do the work of a gas blower would be very heavy and just not economical right now.
@@AustinMichael Eh, yes, we must. We must pass gas. Our future depends on it. No stopping it now. It's farting time.
@@BioniqBob There is a Kickstarter out there for a fully-autonomous blower (the autonomous part mates with a snow blower attachment, a mower attachment, and a leaf blower attachment if I recall). A bit pricey, but the tech is coming. Yes, that means batteries, which are heavy/expensive, but if the blowing is being done "for me" in the middle of the night while I sleep I don't mind so much if the unit needs to dock up a few times before finishing the drive down to the street. Until those prices come down and the tech is perfected, though, a beefy battery blower (which can deliver far more power than from a 15A power cord) and ~16Ah of batteries looks about right to clear my long winding and hilly drive to the road. I just need to be walking behind it to guide where it goes!
Good report! I worry about that plastic impeller but being lighter weight might give you some advantage. In Nebraska we get similar types of snowfall so I know where you're coming from.
I wanted to see one actually work. I live in Canada and I bought a little Sno Joe and it died halfway through my driveway on its inaugural snowfall. I was trying to save money. I ended up getting a 2 stage gas blower after and am thankful I did. I could clear that driveway in a lot less time, and with way more snow.
+SuperJohnMontana yeah, Greenworks is definitely a step up in terms of power compared to snow joe. Snow joe has the only dual stage Li-ion blower though.
Great Vid showing what these can do.
I own a small corded electric blower which I only used 2-3x a year on a 4 car drive.
So ended up buying the Snow-Joe for $168USD.
badger0888 volts does matter 40 volts to 80 volts.
Battery voltage doesn't directly translate to power (volts x current = power). Also, snow Joe doesn't have a higher voltage blower that I know of.
The trade off with the snow joe model he is using is that you can use an extension cord and it will double the power you need to remove the snow. Plus it gets the snow better on the pavement.
True about the cord.
The rubber paddles did seem to clean a bit better, but after I replaced the scraper on the Greenworks it did much better
This is so satisfying.
Great strategy blowing towards the windows. I never thought of that.
Problem with this review is that you are comparing a 80v to a 40v. Why not use the Sno Joe 100w…. That’s what I have and I can tell from this video it would eat the Greenworks. You need to compare equal output machines.
I get this a lot. Snow Joe didn't have it's 100v line back when vid was made, and their dual stage at the time was a whole different price. Also, volts isn't the same as power (P=VI)
Great video! Very cool! Thank you!
Hybrid sounds great that you can use the cord for near house and battery for outreach?
You forgot to mention that the Greenworks 80v has a 20in Auger housing vs the SnowJoe's 40v 18in Auger housing. That 2 inches can make a difference. Good review though.
That's what my wife said to me once :)
First, I want to say, I appreciate the side by side comparison. I am interested in purchasing one of these two machines, and seeing both in a variety of situations is beneficial. My only question is, "Which do you prefer to use and favor?"
I prefer Greenworks bc it felt more powerful and I already have the batteries for other tools. Snow Joe does have other blowers, like its dual stage, which is more powerful but more expensive, too.
@@Teslavangelist What's the charge time like for the Greenworks battery?
For the standard 2.5ah, it's about 25min.
I have multiple batteries so one can be charging while I'm using another.
Hard to compare since they aren’t comparable, voltage, path width etc.
Not the best, but voltage is not the same as power, and SnowJoe's more powerful ones at the time we're much more expensive
Thanks for the great review!
18 minutes is perfect just enough power to tell the neighbors oops the battery just drained.....
Heh, well I have 3 2.5aH batteries and 1 4aH battery, which probably totals at least 2 hrs of straight work time.
If comparing an 18"/40V is fair to a 20"/80V is fair, I put it to you that pitting the Greenworks vs a 21"/80V SnowJoe would also be interesting an enlightning for many.
I own a ION21SB-CT - and since I live in Quebec city, not many see the kinds of weather we do. This unit really kills it.
The basic 80V/4A batteries were ok, but the newer 80V/6A I highly recommend. Since like with all things, we are also blessed with -20C or worse) - we need the extra endurance of the latter.
+marcgrondin65 I can't find an 80v single stage blower from snow joe. Is the sb-ct only in Canada?
Hi T, you are right - it's actually a dual-stage .. we have too many things going on to consider a single-stage : unfinished driveway, deep snow, 4 car parking space (+ side deck & entrance) and the cold.
ps : i think they've just discontinued my exact model, but there must be other similar 21" model on their site.
My only comment would be the Snow Joe was stated in the video to be an 18" capacity and I would assume a little less powered automatically because of the reduced width. They do make Snow Joe models in 20" length the same as Green Works so perhaps a do over with both brands using a 20" capacity model would be an honestly fair comparison?
Hello Juztn, the thing with this "review" is that he is comparing a 40 vs 80v and an 18" vs 20"..
Yes SnowJoe does make 21" and 80V products .. that's what I use.
+marcgrondin65 Ive seen snow Joe's 24" dual stage which is 80v, but I haven't seen others
They've changed it up - all I could find now is this :
www.snowjoe.com/products/snow-joe-ion-40-volt-cordless-18-inch-brushless-snow-blower-winter-warrior-bundle
Never ran snow joe on electric
80v unit spins faster than the 40v unit. Both units in 40v versions work about the same.
This snow looks so good 😍
Teslaevangelist, thanks for the great footage of both and your thoughts. You mentioned in one comment that the Greenworks lasted about a half hour. Was that in heavy snow? Nice Model S by the way.
+M Ahern 30min would be light to medium. Currently, after three years or so, the battery will last 15min in really heavy snow, but I have multiple batteries.
You can tell they like the green works. The battery voltage is not the same not a fair test.
Voltage isn't the same as power. If it was, the corded ones would be far more powerful at 120v.
How does it compare with corded greenworks????
I have 26 gas powered for my large driveway in woods of WNY BUT I need something lighter and easier for my large back deck . I have used my cub cadet but even with a cabin, heated hand grids power steering, it's hard on hands and neck. I am considering an lighterweight electric say 20" for deck even though we get a ton of snow that can be very heavy at times and comes down fast . My thought is a corded lighter weight might work as long as I use it more frequently . Ntm I recently stained tye deck and don't want to mess it up
I loved my Greenworks until it died. I bought it in Jan 2015 and the mother board crapped out on me. It would not stay on longer than 3 seconds. The CSN rep said we can send you the part when it comes in. I took it back to Lowe's and got a Gas Snowblower again...
Greenworks was throwing quite a bit
of snow from the auger straight out that didn't make it into the
Chute
My question is..what is glowing/blinking thing in your mouth ?
Probably the GoPro camera
one thing i noticed.. with the greenworks you are pushing it more where with the snow joe you are rolling it more. check out the rear wheels in the wet snow portion. the green works barely roll while joe's spins rather well. I'd speculate a 20" snow joe would would give you nearly the same performance in dryer snow, maybe a bit less in wet while being easier to push. (the 20' versions of each are the same price range) but i have no first hand experience with either. Great video btw. seeing them actually run and how the different brands work is really helpful even if it isn't a great 1:1 comparison. I like the corded option as well even though i'd probably never use it.
Thanks for the feedback. I replaced the scraper blade on the Greenworks in a later video after which I didn't need to push as much. Some areas on the driveway in the video were compressed by our cars so it also doesn't scraper those areas too well.
5:04 what the heck are you doing? Running both at the same time next to each other against a frozen block of snow???? LOL!
True side by side comparison
I finally just bought a home and living in MN we all need a snow blower. lol. Been looking into a smaller cheaper one since my driveway isn't all that big. I wanted something with battery because i didn't want to deal with gas and cords. It seems these two are the most popular ones. that snow joe at the end there with the heavier wet snow seemed like it came through and cleaned up after the Greenworks. haha. it does clean up better than the greenworks. I wouldn't mind purchasing the snow joe for the slower but cleaner look. also i just looked up the extra battery and holly cow its expensive! i rather have a longer battery and the option to switch to cord. Awesome review though!
The rubber blades do sweep the concrete a bit better, but my greenworks did better at scraping again once I replaced the worn scraper blade. Also, snowjoe now has more powerful blowers than when I did this review
yes..... a $300 vs $600 snow blower comparison..... 40v vs 80v..... I wonder which one performs better
The greenworks is $400, less if you don't need a battery.
Greenworks is 80v Snow Joe is 40 volt. Is this equate to a power difference, or what. Should I compare volts or amps or???
I think you have to compare watts. Multiplying the max volts times the max amps gives the wattage (or power) of the motor. Sometimes you can find the amps in the specs.
80 volt 2 ah or 80 volt 4 ah??? (In the greenworks)
At that time I only had the 2.5 amh battery which came with the blower.
The 4.0aH can be used, but it sticks out the back. Greenworks newer blower can use larger batteries, though
I wish it had included the EGO snowblower for a 3-way comparison.
I'm talking about the 13inch SNOWJOE
The 13inch model has a long electrical cord that is hard to put into the handle, is there an easy way to do that. it does not just slide in.
I live in ma we got hit 13 inch of that on Monday. Two snow days in a row 😂 no school lol
Because you do not go to school you will lack education, which is nothing to be laughing about.
@@tommak6516 Steve jobs is a drop out who cares. Honestly education for a career field is important.
How does greenworks do against the snowjoe 100volt.
Would love to test it out. That one is $800 with the battery, so not comparable price levels.
So, either he has the world's widest residential sidewalk or he's blowing the snow off of his front yard?
Well done bro..
This guy really likes to blow snow. From dusk till dawn!
I wish I could use this but I live in Minnesota. 15 inches of wet and heavy snow is not uncommon. Only gas blowers can get through that.
15" is quite a bit. Snow Joe does make a dual stage blower that looks quite capable.
Green works not hybrid so if batteries fail you are stuck
how many battery did bought on this?
do th they run out quick?
I have 3 Greenworks 2ah (smallest) batteries. They make bigger battery packs, though
Could you comment on how hard or easy it is to push these around. I've worked with 2 electric corded snowblowers, a Toro 1800 and a Chinese-made one somewhat comparable, although half the price. The Toro is quite light (although 15A) and was much easier to push and maneuver in tight areas, as well to carry around. No electric snowblowers have power to the wheels, AFAIK. I'd think the 2 battery powered snow blowers would be pretty heavy. OK if you've got the muscle, or working on nice level surfaces with no tight turns, maybe.
BTW, the Toro died after 3 seasons and not much heavy use. Nice machine, not very durable.
Great video of a real world test!!! The thing that has kept me from buying one of these for my dad is where I live some years we get a decent amount of snow and some years hardly any. So, how many years will the batteries last when they are used so seldom? I mean if you have to re-purchase every 3 or 4 years then that makes it much less attractive as compared to a small gas blower.
that's a good point, and my battery has lost some juice over 3-4 years. but I use the same batteries for their other yard work tools which means they don't sit idle all year. but, that's also a larger investment into the system
Telsavangelist are you going to make any videos of the snowblowers this winter i willl sub
I no longer have the snow joe. I might do. Greenworks vid since I've had it so long, but I doubt well have enough snow until jan
@@Teslavangelist what you got now a greenworks????
Yeah, the 80v one I've had for over 5 years
Both of these would likely implode and vaporize if you hit any ice.
I've hit ice and cement edges. The motor stops if there's too much resistance, or the blade gets ground up a little
So which one is better?
I prefer Greenworks. But, snow Joe has come out with some bigger blowers since then that I haven't used.
Aren't those Greenworks units the ones that tend to get all bunged up a lot and fail with many of them returned? They seem to rank lower in reviews at shopping sites.
I'm pretty happy with mine, but I haven't tried a lot of others to compare.
The plastic impellers are a deal breaker. :/
it seems like snow joe is doing a little bit better.
Snow Joe 18v given 80v run for the money's.
SO 80 volts is better than 40 volts seems right.
Volts isn't the same as power. Depends on current as well
@@Teslavangelist How many watts does each one make?
I don't actually know. Whatever the motors are rated would be interesting.
@@Teslavangelist ya it takes twice as many amps at 40 volts as it does at 80 volts to get the same power.
Still beats shoveling
Is the Greenworks quiet enough to use late at night and early in the morning so I don't wake my sleeping next door neighbors? Is it hard to push up a driveway that has a slight incline?
I think any electric blower is quiet enough because they are all so much quieter than gas ones.
For fluffy snow, pushing uphill isn't a big deal. If it is thick heavy snow, you could just push downhill, walk backup, and push downhill again.
@@Teslavangelist Thanks for the info. I'd use it for lighter/fluffier snow under 6", and use my noisy 2-stage gas powered Ariens for anything deeper/heavier. Is this the one that you bought? I'm surprised it only has a 3.5 rating. www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/greenworks-2600402-pro-80v-20-in-snow-thrower-with-2ah-battery-and-charger?cm_vc=-10005 I'm now thinking of buying this higher-rated 60V model with 6 Ah battery and 60 minute runtime. www.homedepot.com/p/Greenworks-PRO-60-Volt-20-in-Single-Stage-Cordless-Electric-Snow-Blower-with-6-0-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-2608702/314810984
Yes, I have the 80v. The 60v line came out more recently, so I don't have experience with it. A 6Ah battery is great. That could probably do heavy snow for a solid hour
@@Teslavangelist I'll order the 60V model since I can definitely use the extra runtime. Thanks again, Merry Christmas! ruclips.net/video/ahLEIGf4_sU/видео.html
I always have problem with Snowjoe hybrid. The chuck is always clogged with dry or wet snow. Any trick to fix this?
That happened to me with wet snow if it's too heavy, but not too often.
I don't have a fix, but may look into using a cooling spray in the chute to make it slick?
@@Teslavangelist Thanks, I’ll give it a try next time. Wonder how long the effect of oil last.
Did you try the Snow Joe in plug-in mode. If so how is the power compared to battery?
I forgot to do that actually. But, my previous corded blower was a pain, so I wasn't thinking about the corded function.
Cocoa Liveson ..the plug in side of this blower is almost double the power...I was very surprised since I too wasn’t interested in that aspect
In what real world is this a fair review. You need to put an 80 volt Snow Joe up against the Greenworks. Am I the only one noticing the obvious issue here?
No I get that a lot. But volts doesn't equal power, and at the time, snow Joe's dual stage was $800, not price comparable to the greenworks
@@Teslavangelist thanks for the prompt reply and info. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks. Just purchased a 22 inch corded Snow Joe. It beats the heck out of shoveling. I fear not the cord.
Best way for the battery only blowers is just to get an extra battery.They are like $75 to $85
i think snow joe is more slincer...
Not a Fair comparison unless they're both 40v Tbh
Well, power is more than volts. But this is an older vid. Now snowjoe has 100v snowblowers
Snowjoe was the worst purchase of my life. Probably was the worst financial mistake of my life. Never EVER buy a snowjoe or a sunjoe. They do not honor their warranty. Their product's fail by the 6th use. They do not stand by their products and their quality is absolutely the most abysmal. I don't think I have ever made a worse purchase in my life. I didn't return it to the store in time because my father was ill in the hospital if you have to know.
been nice video IF they where both 80 volt !
1) This is like comparing an 8 cylinder car to a 4 cylinder car.
2) Model #'s? On these "new technology" products, a years model number can be a world of difference.
3) You did not state the battery specs, but I am guessing 40v @ 4amps, and 80 volt @ 2 amps. That would mean the same watt hours, but 80 volts would deliver power faster and more efficiently. So again, not apples to apples.
finally somebody has seen what I was seeing. How can you compare 80 volt to a 40 volt. Next he will be comparing a vw to a indy car. Hey they both have 4 wheels. :)
I get this a lot. Volts is only one component of power, so 40v is not half as powerful, it's just what Snow Joe uses. At the time, the only more powerful Snow Joe was the $800 dual stage blower, which is an entirely different class of blower and much more expensive that the Greenworks, so that would not be a fair comparison.
Getten one
Seesh. That snow joe is sounding weak as hell🤣 i have a 80v greenworks 22” so the newer version. Much better than that one. it rolls better and throws far. I love it .
I saw the new one in Costco. So tempting! I noticed the propeller is now made of metal and rubber.
But, mine still is going, and we don't get enough snow for me to justify replacing it yet
40v and 80v are two different things....
True, but so are power and voltage
Reviews on Walmart vs these two show different. Doesn't look good for Greenworks.
Yeah... I always find the best way to clear snow is to blow it onto the snow I haven’t yet cleared so each sweep becomes progressively more difficult. Very strange method.
You throw the snow across new snow, not over what you just cleared, otherwise some snow lands where you just cleared.
Compared to greenworks 80v the snow joe seems to bog down a lot
+Hilbert Eichel The Unteroffizier yes
80v 20" vs 40v 18" terrible comparison, If you're going to compare 2 machines, they should be the same.... of course the Greenworks will outperform the Snow Joe it has double the power... duhhhh....
EGO 21'' 56v is probably better then both these.
Probably? ??? Try definitely! !!
EstPaul do they have any videos showing the ego 21 against another brand?
In this comparison it seems the green word is more powerful but the sno jo goes deeper
Sure but almost 3x as expensive
Real world comparison of a 40V system and an 80V system? What the hell are you talking about? Either compare 2-40v systems or 2-80v systems. You can’t mix and call it a fair comparison.
First of all, the price point is roughly the same. Snow Joe's dual stage 80v is $800 with the battery and more powerful, as is their new 100v single stage.
Second, volts does not equal power. Greenworks is 80v. Most of SnowJoe is 40v. Ego is 56v.
greenworks is way over priced, $200 for extra batteries, please, snow joe all the way..
Batteries are pricey I agree, but it depends how many ampH. More expensive batteries give you way more use time
My greenworks burned up after two seasons....
That's no good. Should be replaced. Warranty is 4 years
That’s another issue. The service repair place waited a year for a circuit board from Greenworks. I finally gave up.
@@grumpycyclist3319 Call Greenworks Customer Support yourself. Worst case, if CS doesn't help, file a BBB complaint. If you are in warranty, GreenWorks (in my experience) will send out a whole new unit if individual parts aren't available.
Lol
Snow Jo makes an 80V, why didn't you compare like units? You claim Green had more power, of course it did, it's a more powerful unit. Compare Apples to Apples as they say, not Apples to Oranges!
+William Reimund the 80V snow joe is a dual stage blower, an entirely different class
Teslavangelist That may be true, but you can't expect a 40V unit to have the power of an 80V unit! You should have compared an 80v of some other brand, or a 40v Green single stage blower to be fair
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Did you try the Snow Joe with the cord plugged in. In another test I watched, it had a lot more power with the cord for heavy snow, or extended plowing.
I didn't in this comparison because I don't use cords; but it would be interesting to see if there is a difference.
I live in British Columbia canada. I bought the 14.5 amp snowjoe today it lasted all of 1 second took it back and got a replacement and it lasted 45 seconds. Home depot asked if I would like to try it the third time I said no thanks. I was afraid that even if it worked how long would it last. So I'm looking for a plan B
Corded wouldn't work where I live
motor size is based on voltage amount. I speculate that the battery is not truly 40v but 36V and when plugging in, the power supply is probably 40v giving you maximum power the motor can provide.
@@bigmoose4566 I'm in MN, and used a 13amp corded Snow Joe for a couple years. Still works great. One thing to be sure of: use a heavy gauge cord. I use a 12 gauge for the 100ft cord. If the wire is too thin it will not work properly and will burn out the motor fairly quickly.
What's the battery life on both??
Not sure about snow Joe, but my Greenworks battery feels like about 60-70% of new capacity (the 2ah battery) after 4-5yrs. I actually have 3 batteries, though, so I use the oldest one the most and the newer ones if old one runs out too soon.
I also use the battery in summer with my lawn mower so it gets a lot of use.
How is that a fair comparison 40 volt against 80 volt ?
Power is both volts and amps. Plus, at the time, snowjoes only more powerful one was it's dual stage blower, much more expensive at $800
I have owned a Greenworks 40 V lawn mower since 2011 - it has been amazing the battery has been a non issue, it has never let me down, super easy to use and light to push around.
I've moved and have a double long driveway, would never consider a gas blower, eats up too much real-estate in the garage and hate the fumes / maintenance / trip to get gas and stabilizers was considering getting a Greenworks snow blower, an really appreciate your review and the comments of everyone here... I have added the Greenworks to my Black Friday wish list :)
Thank you but I'll keep my '70's track drive 2 stage Craftsman gas snow blower. Always reliable.
I'm with ya. The 70's Craftsman track drive is a great blower. I'm running a Ariens with a good ol' Tecumseh motor. It'll run as long as your Craftsman. It was a very sad day when Tecumseh got tossed aside. Top notch quality, built in America, competitive price. Ruined by short sighted idiots.