@daves913 it's a GT not a GT40 which hasn't been made in what 6 or 7 decades and no the GT only make what 670hp which means it's got almost 400hp less than the ZR1. So yea clearly you don't know anything about car's lol.
@@chriskolaska897 Ok, you do Einstein! 😂🤣 the GTD, will beat that zr1 around the track. Then no one will hold your beer, or Chevy’s beer🍺. 🤣🤣. Btw I just found the HP on the ZR1. It’s impressive, but like I said the GTD will beat it around the track.
GTD way better. Name doesn’t account for performance. I can call a Renault a Renault when comparing it to a Lambo, but if it has 1000 horsepower then what’s purpose is stating its name?
As a ford guy I’ll have to say I’d go with the ZR1!! Don’t have to audition to buy it, it’s not limited quantity so more people have a chance to buy it and has more power and probably cheaper as well! And it’s mid engine!!
Exclusiveness matters. I personally don’t give a f which car is more accessible. I’m a Chevy guy and grew up on Dale Earnhardt Sr but im over this whole either or thing. Both cars are amazing and the GTD “may” end up being a better track car which matters more. People keep talking about the quarter mile about the ZR1 and that is such a lowest common denominator talk track. Quarter miles are stupid and meaningless. Lap times at laguna seca, Sebring, etc means so so much more
@@solidsnake7167 What people are talking about doesnt matter, the Z06 is already going blow for blow with the gt3rs and gt2rs on tracks and the zr1 outpacing that by 400 horsepower simply knocks the gtd out of the competetion
@@skylerhickman3646The ZO6 is not going blow for blow with the GT3 RS. Only time their lap times are close or the ZO6 was faster was with unknown drivers we don't know why skill of. Any other time the GT3 RS is way faster. Not to mention the ZR1 will have more power and aero, but a softer, more comfortable suspension than the ZO6. Chevy themselves said that the point of this ZR1 was not to be a hardcore track weapon, and that's the ZO6's role. Most of you are just fixated on the 1000 horsepower part. Porsche should a shining example that having more power will not necessarily give you the fastest lap times.
@@solidsnake7167 And for me much important: 0-60 (0-100 km/h) and 60-120 (100-200 km/h). These facts indicate how fast a car is. 99% of time you drive on normal streets and not on tracks 🙂
@@JamaicanMeCrazy It’s confirmed $180k, that’s why everyone is so stoked about it. You end up spending a extra 30k-50k total, so around 210-230k. (As of now though, you could end up being correct which wouldn’t surprise me)
@@IsThatHuncho let's see..... The price I was quoting is based on total cost out the door meaning also adding dealer markups. I don't think anyone will be able to get one without spending 250k the first year or two. But that's just what I think.
This isn't a Camaro we're talking about either, this is a CORVETTE ZR1, Chevy's highest trim sports car. It honestly all comes down to pricing. If the ZR1 is around $150k like journalists are predicting, then there would absolutely not be any reason to get the $300k+ Mustang GTD. Even if the ZR1 is $200k I wouldn't see why you would get the Mustang GTD. Suspension alone does not equate to a $100k price difference. I honestly don't know what Ford was thinking pricing a "Mustang" like it's a Ford GT. But we shall see what's better once they both come out and are put head to head.
The GTD is more than just suspension. They put a lot into it, plus you're also paying for it's exclusivity. And it's not priced like a Ford GT, even though it's literally made but the same people who developed the Ford GT. The Ford GT started at $500k.
I suppose it depends on the goal of the buyer. With the limited number of GTDs that will be produced, it will most certainly be a unicorn and ultimately be more valuable in the collectable market. However, if you want a borderline hypercar at a semi affordable price that you can drive the wheels off of and still never lose money on the purchase, then the ZR1 is the path. For me, I'm in the latter camp. I can't stand the idea of a machine like the GTD just sitting in the garage because adding miles will reduce its value in the long run
I'm a Mustang fanboy. The GTD announcement and unveiling was cool. I love the car and, of course, dream of being able to drive one.....but this Corvette just eclipsed the GTD. It will be interesting to watch these two and their track times. What a cool time for car enthusiasts!
How so? The ZR1 is mass produced street car with track applications. The GTD is a race car that can be used on the street. Put them on a race track and the GTD wins hands down. Put them on the street and the ZR1 wins hands down. Collectable is the GTD.
People are too quick to assume which one will be faster. And I do think it is fair to say the corvette will be faster in a straight line car, and the gtd will be a amazing track car zr1 will be great on track too, and I just want to see lap times
In a straight line race sure, if that’s what you value. I’d be willing to bet a good amount of money that the GTD will turn a lap time at SPA or anywhere as quick as the ZR1
It is crazy to think in 2024 we are talking about these 2 amazing gasoline powered machines! Outstanding! BTW, since the ZR1 reveal I know the engineers at Ford are looking for some ways to squeeze more power out of the GTD's engine. What a time to be a car enthusiast! I am taking none of it for granted.
If the ZR1 can be optioned out to $250K, even with the ZTK package, then it’ll take the GTD’s lunch money even more than it already has. The Z06 has already shown and proven to be quicker than the 992 GT3 RS, despite the latter having more aero, lighter weight, and DRS. Misha Charoudin even stated that it had *incredible* levels of downforce when he drove it on the ring, and that the Z06 is a sub 7 minute car easy. The ZR1 is going to slay just about everything with the exception of genuine hyper cars, which even then, it might be quicker than the Holy Trinity, and bite at the AMG One’s heels. We’ll see in due time.
Use your brain, one car is purpose built for the track with a race suspension. I love the Vette and I’m a chevy guy but it’s stupid as hell to discount the GTD when it is a purpose built track car and may end up being better on the TRACK. It also sounds better. Be objective
i agree, always been that way. Mustang is trying or has been trying to punch up into the "sport car" class because it has sat in the "muscle car" class its entire life with the camaro and the chargers/challengers
@@solidsnake7167 And the ZR1 is not a purpose built race car????? Please don't compare a mid engine hyper car at this point to a mustang. ZR1 is on a different level in every aspect. Front engine rear transaxle is old hat for corvette. Been there done that. Corvette has moved on to bigger and better things.
@@terrycamara6565 1. Its not a hypercar - learn the difference. It will not be an AMG One, Valkryie, A Solus, The Gordan Murray Car or anything like that.The front engine versus mid engine, is, in a word, stupid and overblown when this little thing called WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION is 50/50. Did it stop the C5 and C6 CORVETTE from dominating LeMans in the 2000's? Does it stop an AMG GT? A NASCAR Cup car waltzes in to goodwood and consistently puts up some of the best times and its not even close to being a hillclimb type car. The GTD is specifically intended to be a by product of their IMSA car with a stiffer suspension. If its a track like a Laguna Seca, or a Sonoma then its more than a conceviable notion that the GTD can put up a quicker lap time. To act like there is no comparison, you immediately excuse yourself because you're not being objective, youre arguing in bad faith, ignorant and blinded by tribalism. People are the best, both cars cant be amazing, no sir. The knuckle draggers draw the line in the sand, plant their flag and says the other thing sucks with zero nuance
@@Jimmyxsxfinally someone with critical thinking skills. The ZR1 is fantastic and a marvel. 1064 on reg pump gas is amazing. But the true test of the capabilities of a machine is on a real race track. The GTD is basically a GT3 car that can run at lemans. People just cannot comprehend or understand the value in that
i just luv how everyone is missing the point, if they wanted to go after the ZR1, Ford would simply throw their mid engine Super Car GT40.. They have only built the GTD for one reason, to show they can all so make a fast pony car. How is the camaro going?? BTW thats the competitor! not the corvette it is up against the GT 40 which also has a mid engine.
The GTD weighs 1000lbs Less the GTD and it’s not even close yall see 1064 hp and lose your fucking minds and see nothing else.. The GTD is a carbon weapon $300k GT3 car vs a 1K hp Super car lol 😂It’s not close
It's not. The gtd is a mid engine supercharged race car. The ZR1 is just better in ever way. ZR1 Cost $180k before markups. GTD is $300k waste of money
@@maromyers964 I think it’s a nice looking car and probably performs well also but $300 plus is too much.. I do prefer the looks of the mustang over a vette but that’s my subjective opinion..
@@NewEdgeDesigns nah don't get me wrong the mustang gtd look hard 🔥 it's just for that much money it should have 1110-1200hp minimum. I honestly think GM did that on purpose theirs no way the vette should be that cheap. Easily 400k 🤣
I see the Ford as an inferior product compared to the ZR1. The Ford my be more collectable due to low numbers. Ford picked a bad time to release the GTD, three years too late.
I'm also a stang bloke but I'm afraid this ZR1 will smoke the GTD. To compete with the ZR1 the GTD would of needed to be produced with a carbon tub to be at its lightest and in mid engine format at 800whp not at flywheel.
We'll have to see the track times. Should be a battle. Honestly I see the ZR1 beating the GTD. The Z06 already beat the GT3rs on multiple tracks and that was the GTD's target. ZR1 is packing even more power and downforce than that.
Guys...go do your research. The GTD is a race car on the street. The suspension. Gearbox, and aero is next level. ZR1 is a hype up Z06. Thats its a Z06 with turbos. If some of yall read more than gave your opinion yall wouldn't seem so ignorant.
Not at all, One is a high HP variant and the other is a Car GOD, GTD all day. No they are two different class of vehicles. Turn heads, it is not about the Journey, it is how damn sweet the Mustang is and trust me, the Mustang value will go up just like the Ford GT as it ages.
The GTD will handle and brake slightly better. The ZR1 will handle and brake well enough and smoke it on the straights, translating to faster lap times on every track.
Braking system is a weak point on C8. I do agree on that point. GM is going a little softer on ZR1 vs Z06. Handling will depend on surface ant track conditions. Just saw Shmee GT over heat. Ford and Mulitimatic better look into such because videos will come out with owners who track.
I’m a Corvette guy period but that mustang is pretty cool. I’m a Corvette guy first but I’m a car guy close second and if there was some way for me to get both I’d do it
@@MrWheat-oy2vm Well they haven’t released a ring time so we don’t really know about that but yeah their race team hasn’t done that well yet but I still think it’s cool that they are competing in that class with a car that uses 70% Mustang GT engine parts.
The mustang isn't even in the same class as the Corvette. Four seater vs two seater. The Corvette wins hands down as far as class. Wish people would quit comparing the mustang in the same class.
This ZR-1 with just basic ecu tuning on ethanol or 110 Octane race gas tune with bolt ons like headers down pipes mid pipes straight piped exhaust and hotter cams with an ice box to keep it all ice cold will probably put out way over 1500+hp even before adding bigger turbos and a stroker kit etc..
It’s almost unfair to compare them. The corvette has always been considered superior. The original rival of the mustang was the Camaro. Now the charger is the closest competitor. I don’t think it’s considered a pony car. It kind’ve fits the description. Muscle car, pony car they’re both pretty cool. The corvette is more a super car that evolved into a now, hyper car.
@@benjaminmatute9085Respectfully, this is a pretty inane comment, especially if one takes 5 minutes to do a little research on the ZR1. It offers two packages: a low wing version, and the track focused ZTK package. Such has been a thing since the C7 ZR1, and plenty of other cars have done similar. It’s no different than Ford doing a GT350 and GT350R, or offering a track package for the GT500. The ZR1 will literally give you both: speed, and track dominance, while also being a friendly car to drive on the street. Saying it doesn’t, “know what it wants”, is ridiculous.
@@benjaminmatute9085 no they have various versions of the vette for different things. The ZR1 is its hypercar basically and it smokes the stang you guys are something else. Some of you have brains at the very least you can see how many ford guys pick the vette over the stang.
@5:34 i cant unsee how the mustang gtd looks like a turtle and by trying to overcompensate on performance, ford has really made this into a damn ugly car.
Why are you surprised by the zr1 power figures? Guys like me have been saying for the past year on many videos that Chevy insiders and dealership insiders were saying that even 950+hp on shitty 91 octane California gas is not enough and nobody listened it seems. Now those same people who were proven correct if conservative in their predictions are saying the Zora will have an uprated zr1 engine plus two very powerful ev front motors to give over 1500+hp on normal pump gas.. Now imagine a Zora with full aftermarket bolt ons and ECU and tcu tuning and race gas plus larger turbos and methane injection and an icebox and hotter cams and uprated fuel system and straight piped exhaust and strengthened transmission?
Of course it’s the winner is the ZR1. Always has been, always will. The Mustang is bad ass but can they really compare to a Corvette? Nope. They are completely different classes of cars. The Ford GT, on the other hand, is in the same class as the Corvette and will give that ZR1 a run for its money. They are both supercars.
The GTD is a C6-C7 front engine corvette that ford is 10 years late to the game. These cars aren't even in the same class, ford needs a 1000hp Ford GT to compete.
That doesn’t translate into usable hp, you can have 2000hp civic, the second a turn is added into the equation everything changes. The Nur is great because it’s 13 mile long race track. It’ll be interesting to see the lap times of these two. I’m leaning towards the mustang tho in terms of lap times.
Even if you think the Found On Road Dead crowd killer could be something. To real car guys we know who is king and who we know as the king's jester ... long live the King Corvette....ZR1
Not really fair. Mustangs compete with Camaros and Challengers, not Corvettes. They are both awesome for what they are, but of course the Vette will be a level above.
Edmunds U-drags aren’t just drag race. There’s braking and cornering involved too. That would be awesome to see these 2 beasts go head to head on a U-drag. My money on the vette of course
The GTD is a joke that none of us care about. It’s a mass produced chassis that ford wants $300k for. It’s a gullible idiot trap. The corvette is a legend.
To speed phenom. This is no comparison these cars are not in the same class! Please start comparing it to actual cars in its class, this is embarrassing comparison. Show vs. Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. Maybe the mustang can match camaro ZL1 finally. Would you match the mustang up against a LA Ferrari, or Porsche GT2RS? No, point made.
You should say “all combustion” instead of “all motor” because that term already has meaning in the car world, and the ZR1 is not all motor since it has turbos
Y’all are trippin. The GTD has: More downforce Larger contact patch SLA/pushrod suspension vs struts on the Corvette Likely lighter Better sound DRS Looks much better And has an even weight distribution vs the 39/61 on the Corvette The ZR1 is a Z06 with more power. The GTD is a radical reinvention of the sports car.
Lmao what?! How is the GTD a radical reinventing of the sports car when it's just their gt3 car with enough extras added on to make it legal on the roads. Porsche does the same thing with gt2/gt3 rs and has been doing it for years! Ford isn't re-inventing anything dude. The mustang in GT3 is barely competitive as is do they even have a win this season yet? I know team corvette does..
@@RichnZ06 trap speed means nothing. Many cars record a high trap speed but isn't reflected in the quarter mile. Trap speed is a guide but not the rule of quarter mile performance
The Zr1 is ridiculous and can be a daily but this mustang is going to be a menace on the track...an absolute unit. It's a special car. In the realm of the ford gt...built to that level. Its a street legal race car.
@@Jcs57 I like muscle cars, and it wouldn’t shock me at all if the GTD is faster around the ring than the ZR1. The GTD is purpose built. The ZR1 looks more of a jack of all trades, but will it do an 8 sec 1/4 mile like the 170, or break the Ring record? We will find out.
As it should. The GTD is more limited with actual race bits in it. It’s basically a GT3 Car without BOP. It’s a f’ing track car. Not a stupid car for the quarter mile
@@feagle And a Corvette is still a Corvette. Ford rule track and straight line. And the GTD is a purpose built track car with way more technology than the new ZR1. You guys just hate on Ford because they are superior, so now that Chevy release a car that has 1064hp from the factory it will automatically beat a GTD, use your brains. It has DRS that alone makes it better than the ZR1 around a track. I don't see the new ZR1's being built by multimatic. Yeah the ZR1 is cool and all but it is leaguies below a GTD point blank period.
If you think a gt500 derived engine can’t hit 1000+ rwhp you’re smoking crack. There are gt500s sitting at 1300rwhp. If for wanted the power they’d have it. And gt500 has already gone beyond 200mph all day. You guys are killin me with this. Don’t get me wrong good job Chevy but fords already been there. Just RUclips 1300ho gt500 and make sure you have lots of time.
Ford needs to stop with supercharging and embrace V8 turbos. The GTD is inferior engineering compared to zr1. I'm also a Ford mustang fanatic but have been very disappointed with Ford triple down on supercharging strategy. Whoever agreed to supercharging a 300k car should be fired or step down from their role.
I’m a mustang guy, but that C8 ZR1 is on a different level.
I'm still blown away!
Agreed!
Why? Because it has 1000 horsepower lol?
@quentinfreeman7516 ya plus it's mid engine and it hooks lol mustangs can't hook for shit
The GTDs suspension is on another level
Why would anyone pay $400K for the GTD after this? To be honest $400K for a Mustang was ridiculous regardless.
Don't you be ridiculous....Ford could sell three times as many, leaving plenty of interest in the POOR MAN'S CAR !!
NOT TO MENTION THE FORD IS UGLY
It’s actually $325,000.
The GT3 version of the Corvette is $700K. That’s what the GTD is up against. Not the ZR1. Essentially a race car.
Dodge…… we are doing away with V8 Hellcat, Demon Etc…………. Ford comes out with the GTD………Chevy hold my beer twin turbo Corvette
GT40 hold my beer! 😂😂😂
@daves913 it's a GT not a GT40 which hasn't been made in what 6 or 7 decades and no the GT only make what 670hp which means it's got almost 400hp less than the ZR1. So yea clearly you don't know anything about car's lol.
@@chriskolaska897 Ok, you do Einstein! 😂🤣 the GTD, will beat that zr1 around the track. Then no one will hold your beer, or Chevy’s beer🍺. 🤣🤣. Btw I just found the HP on the ZR1. It’s impressive, but like I said the GTD will beat it around the track.
@@daves913GTD and “GT40” won’t do anything. Ford can’t compete, or should I say multimatic since that’s who builds it
@@chriskolaska897 lol I know it barely beats the ZO6..
No question ZR1!!
This isn't a comparison. The ZR1 is a league above. Mustangs have never been a Corvette competitor
Time well tell which one does the track better
Exactly they should have done the Ford GT for this it would make more sense.
GTD way better. Name doesn’t account for performance. I can call a Renault a Renault when comparing it to a Lambo, but if it has 1000 horsepower then what’s purpose is stating its name?
But mustang owners think mustangs are better than any other car
@@benjaminmatute9085 the Corvette is a performance beast you make it seem like the Mustang is such a better option what are you nuts ?
As a ford guy I’ll have to say I’d go with the ZR1!! Don’t have to audition to buy it, it’s not limited quantity so more people have a chance to buy it and has more power and probably cheaper as well! And it’s mid engine!!
Exclusiveness matters. I personally don’t give a f which car is more accessible. I’m a Chevy guy and grew up on Dale Earnhardt Sr but im over this whole either or thing. Both cars are amazing and the GTD “may” end up being a better track car which matters more. People keep talking about the quarter mile about the ZR1 and that is such a lowest common denominator talk track. Quarter miles are stupid and meaningless. Lap times at laguna seca, Sebring, etc means so so much more
@@solidsnake7167 What people are talking about doesnt matter, the Z06 is already going blow for blow with the gt3rs and gt2rs on tracks and the zr1 outpacing that by 400 horsepower simply knocks the gtd out of the competetion
@@skylerhickman3646The ZO6 is not going blow for blow with the GT3 RS. Only time their lap times are close or the ZO6 was faster was with unknown drivers we don't know why skill of. Any other time the GT3 RS is way faster. Not to mention the ZR1 will have more power and aero, but a softer, more comfortable suspension than the ZO6. Chevy themselves said that the point of this ZR1 was not to be a hardcore track weapon, and that's the ZO6's role. Most of you are just fixated on the 1000 horsepower part. Porsche should a shining example that having more power will not necessarily give you the fastest lap times.
@@solidsnake7167 And for me much important: 0-60 (0-100 km/h) and 60-120 (100-200 km/h). These facts indicate how fast a car is. 99% of time you drive on normal streets and not on tracks 🙂
What pctg of owners will actually track them?
Easily the ZR1. Come on man.
ZR1 will absolutely be faster around a track and cost ~$120,000 less. Ooof.
Zr1 won't beat gtd on track. Also zr1 is about to sell for 300k
@@Aacula lmfao the gtd is going to get railed in the ass. The Gtd will barely keep up with the Z06 😂
@@skylerhickman3646 ZR1 weighs 1000 lbs more than the GTD!! Lol
@@daves913 No it doesnt lmfao. Please stop trying to compare the mustang to the corvette, its not in league and it never was
@@skylerhickman3646mustang, killed the ZL1, now it’s going kill the corvette, around the track.
Anyone who chooses a Mustang over a Corvette needs to have their head examined.
This is not your average mustang. lol
man.... def the zr1, best bang for the buck and the most hp you can get stock
Depending on how many bucks
@@JamaicanMeCrazy about 210k finish price
@@IsThatHuncho I honestly think this is gonna be Lambo money. I'm thinking over 250 even 300k
@@JamaicanMeCrazy It’s confirmed $180k, that’s why everyone is so stoked about it. You end up spending a extra 30k-50k total, so around 210-230k. (As of now though, you could end up being correct which wouldn’t surprise me)
@@IsThatHuncho let's see..... The price I was quoting is based on total cost out the door meaning also adding dealer markups. I don't think anyone will be able to get one without spending 250k the first year or two. But that's just what I think.
This isn't a Camaro we're talking about either, this is a CORVETTE ZR1, Chevy's highest trim sports car. It honestly all comes down to pricing. If the ZR1 is around $150k like journalists are predicting, then there would absolutely not be any reason to get the $300k+ Mustang GTD. Even if the ZR1 is $200k I wouldn't see why you would get the Mustang GTD. Suspension alone does not equate to a $100k price difference. I honestly don't know what Ford was thinking pricing a "Mustang" like it's a Ford GT. But we shall see what's better once they both come out and are put head to head.
The GTD is more than just suspension. They put a lot into it, plus you're also paying for it's exclusivity. And it's not priced like a Ford GT, even though it's literally made but the same people who developed the Ford GT. The Ford GT started at $500k.
I suppose it depends on the goal of the buyer. With the limited number of GTDs that will be produced, it will most certainly be a unicorn and ultimately be more valuable in the collectable market. However, if you want a borderline hypercar at a semi affordable price that you can drive the wheels off of and still never lose money on the purchase, then the ZR1 is the path. For me, I'm in the latter camp. I can't stand the idea of a machine like the GTD just sitting in the garage because adding miles will reduce its value in the long run
The fastest track times are what really matters. I'd love to see a professional run these both and compare times.
It’s also a carbon body
@@sagaskins64 Agree,....but not my GTD, it's going to be HIGH MILEAGE !!
Not even a comparison. The ZR1 is leagues above the Mustang. ZR1 rivals come from Italy, Germany and so on
"I don't know, but what I do know DODGE aint in it...RIP Viper😢"
Zora will be tapping into the Hyper car era
Hypercar just means overpriced, the z06 already out handles most if not all of them
If they do the same thing they did with the C8 e-ray with the Zora... WOW
@@brunonanni6219 yessir
Only this time it'll be 1200+ horsepower
I'm a Mustang fanboy. The GTD announcement and unveiling was cool. I love the car and, of course, dream of being able to drive one.....but this Corvette just eclipsed the GTD. It will be interesting to watch these two and their track times. What a cool time for car enthusiasts!
One is a collectable, one is a record setter.
And they're the same car. Zr1s is definitely something to keep forever
yep, that is basically what i said. i agree.
Ford guy here just to come and say its a chevy street car vs ford race car and id still take the zr-1 all day. Didnt even watch the video
I'm a Ford guy to the bone but Chevy beat Fords ass at this one.
How so? The ZR1 is mass produced street car with track applications. The GTD is a race car that can be used on the street. Put them on a race track and the GTD wins hands down. Put them on the street and the ZR1 wins hands down. Collectable is the GTD.
People are too quick to assume which one will be faster. And I do think it is fair to say the corvette will be faster in a straight line car, and the gtd will be a amazing track car zr1 will be great on track too, and I just want to see lap times
Seriously? Corvettes going to eat the Mustang for lunch.
The C8 ZR1 will likely out-class the GTD in almost, if not all, aspects.
In a straight line race sure, if that’s what you value. I’d be willing to bet a good amount of money that the GTD will turn a lap time at SPA or anywhere as quick as the ZR1
@@solidsnake7167If you think the zr1 is all about horsepower you litteraly arent paying attention to what it and the z06 are.
@@solidsnake7167 lol, not even close. the ZR1 ZTK is a thoroughbred track car.
@@solidsnake7167 People like you said the same thing about the GT before it came out and it couldn't leave a C7 ZR1 on any track. Calm down.
@@FuturesAnalytica not is not, corvette chief engineer said it has lower grip around the track than the c8 Z06
It is crazy to think in 2024 we are talking about these 2 amazing gasoline powered machines! Outstanding! BTW, since the ZR1 reveal I know the engineers at Ford are looking for some ways to squeeze more power out of the GTD's engine. What a time to be a car enthusiast! I am taking none of it for granted.
If Ford puts AWD on it, it might not need much more HP.
If the ZR1 can be optioned out to $250K, even with the ZTK package, then it’ll take the GTD’s lunch money even more than it already has. The Z06 has already shown and proven to be quicker than the 992 GT3 RS, despite the latter having more aero, lighter weight, and DRS. Misha Charoudin even stated that it had *incredible* levels of downforce when he drove it on the ring, and that the Z06 is a sub 7 minute car easy.
The ZR1 is going to slay just about everything with the exception of genuine hyper cars, which even then, it might be quicker than the Holy Trinity, and bite at the AMG One’s heels. We’ll see in due time.
@@danieldickerson4838
I think you’re right !!
Then Zora Comes out..
As a Mustang guy, definitely ZR1
@@shaharifmangaru9163 as a corvette guy, definitely the GTD! Lol
Better in every way for half the price => ZR1
Talk of the car community next year will be GTD MUSTANG, CORVETTE ZR1, and 911 GT2RS.
Ford will be embarrassed by the ZR1
Nothing to be embarrassed about, unless they are priced the same, and I am pretty sure the ZR1 will cost more.
@@matrox The ZR1 will be cheaper. How do you compare a mid engine hyper car at this point to a Mustang????? ZR1 wins in every way hands down.
ZR1 will not have a $300k MSRP Guaranteed!!! It will have crazy dealer mark up, but Dealer MSRP will be WAY lower than $300k.
@@terrycamara6565 How much is the mustang?
GTD, will spank the ZR1 around the track. Lol 😂
Is this a joke ? Not even close . The ZR-1 is in the hypercar comparison category
well, the Convertible Z06 already beat the GT3 RS. now with better aero and 400hp more I think is too much for the GTD.
When did it beat the GT3 RS?
@@mfan2492 Twice. At Throttle House’s home track, and at Magny Cours.
Ima Chevy guy! Let’s be honest this is not a fair comparison!!
Mustang vs Camaro
Corvette vs ford GT!
That’s a better comparison!
End of the day a mustang still a mustang corvette all day everyday
Use your brain, one car is purpose built for the track with a race suspension. I love the Vette and I’m a chevy guy but it’s stupid as hell to discount the GTD when it is a purpose built track car and may end up being better on the TRACK. It also sounds better. Be objective
i agree, always been that way. Mustang is trying or has been trying to punch up into the "sport car" class because it has sat in the "muscle car" class its entire life with the camaro and the chargers/challengers
@@redtestagood thing this shit is nothing like any mustang you’ve ever seen before. You guys are dummy’s
@@solidsnake7167 And the ZR1 is not a purpose built race car????? Please don't compare a mid engine hyper car at this point to a mustang. ZR1 is on a different level in every aspect. Front engine rear transaxle is old hat for corvette. Been there done that. Corvette has moved on to bigger and better things.
@@terrycamara6565 1. Its not a hypercar - learn the difference. It will not be an AMG One, Valkryie, A Solus, The Gordan Murray Car or anything like that.The front engine versus mid engine, is, in a word, stupid and overblown when this little thing called WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION is 50/50. Did it stop the C5 and C6 CORVETTE from dominating LeMans in the 2000's? Does it stop an AMG GT? A NASCAR Cup car waltzes in to goodwood and consistently puts up some of the best times and its not even close to being a hillclimb type car. The GTD is specifically intended to be a by product of their IMSA car with a stiffer suspension. If its a track like a Laguna Seca, or a Sonoma then its more than a conceviable notion that the GTD can put up a quicker lap time. To act like there is no comparison, you immediately excuse yourself because you're not being objective, youre arguing in bad faith, ignorant and blinded by tribalism. People are the best, both cars cant be amazing, no sir. The knuckle draggers draw the line in the sand, plant their flag and says the other thing sucks with zero nuance
According to the comments, the ZR1 wins in a rout
ZR1 And it ain't even close
Idk man, that Mustang is a pretty fast track car. Drag race sure the ZR1 will win but on the track I got my money on the Mustang.
@@Jimmyxsxfinally someone with critical thinking skills. The ZR1 is fantastic and a marvel. 1064 on reg pump gas is amazing. But the true test of the capabilities of a machine is on a real race track. The GTD is basically a GT3 car that can run at lemans. People just cannot comprehend or understand the value in that
i just luv how everyone is missing the point, if they wanted to go after the ZR1, Ford would simply throw their mid engine Super Car GT40.. They have only built the GTD for one reason, to show they can all so make a fast pony car. How is the camaro going?? BTW thats the competitor! not the corvette it is up against the GT 40 which also has a mid engine.
@@2004lesk01 the Ford GT's lap times got bested by the Viper ACR on 2/3 tracks. Hell the C7 ZR1 went 1/2 and a tie on times vs the GT lmmfao.
The GTD weighs 1000lbs Less the GTD and it’s not even close yall see 1064 hp and lose your fucking minds and see nothing else.. The GTD is a carbon weapon $300k GT3 car vs a 1K hp Super car lol 😂It’s not close
Two completely different car classes! The ZR1 is on a whole different level
Actually, that mustang gtd is literally a race car. Plus it will cost considerably more than the zr1. Give me the zr1
The corvette is in a different class than the mustang, it should only be compared to the ford GT
It's not. The gtd is a mid engine supercharged race car. The ZR1 is just better in ever way. ZR1 Cost $180k before markups. GTD is $300k waste of money
@@maromyers964 The GTD cost twice as much?!? Ridiculous!!
@@NewEdgeDesigns yeah they need to cut that in half cause who paying that
@@maromyers964 I think it’s a nice looking car and probably performs well also but $300 plus is too much.. I do prefer the looks of the mustang over a vette but that’s my subjective opinion..
@@NewEdgeDesigns nah don't get me wrong the mustang gtd look hard 🔥 it's just for that much money it should have 1110-1200hp minimum. I honestly think GM did that on purpose theirs no way the vette should be that cheap. Easily 400k 🤣
Since corvette went from dime and nickle pushrod to a true super car power plant. It’s no longer a comparison
Stangs are not in the same ballpark
Both are amazing vehicles. Feel like the Zora is still coming. With the hybrid power to the front wheels like the e-ray on the zr1.
Agree
ZR1 all day long. Mid engine 1064.
I see the Ford as an inferior product compared to the ZR1. The Ford my be more collectable due to low numbers. Ford picked a bad time to release the GTD, three years too late.
I'm also a stang bloke but I'm afraid this ZR1 will smoke the GTD. To compete with the ZR1 the GTD would of needed to be produced with a carbon tub to be at its lightest and in mid engine format at 800whp not at flywheel.
Ford GT will still be faster than the ZR1. That's the real competition.
Only idiot will pay for a $200k Mustang.
C8 ZR1 will be a legendary American Supercar period.
ZR1 a mustang will always be a mustang a rental car.
doesn’t matter as we can agree dodge is dead
Race car vs super car, not a fair comparison lol
ZR WON!
Haha I see what you did there!
@@SpeedPhenom Hard to get past by you, Austin! 💪🇺🇸
We'll have to see the track times. Should be a battle. Honestly I see the ZR1 beating the GTD. The Z06 already beat the GT3rs on multiple tracks and that was the GTD's target. ZR1 is packing even more power and downforce than that.
Guys...go do your research. The GTD is a race car on the street. The suspension. Gearbox, and aero is next level. ZR1 is a hype up Z06. Thats its a Z06 with turbos. If some of yall read more than gave your opinion yall wouldn't seem so ignorant.
Please, these are not in the same vehicle category!!!
Not at all, One is a high HP variant and the other is a Car GOD, GTD all day. No they are two different class of vehicles. Turn heads, it is not about the Journey, it is how damn sweet the Mustang is and trust me, the Mustang value will go up just like the Ford GT as it ages.
Agreed. The Vette isn’t even close.
One is a hyper car, and the other is a pony car.
The GTD will handle and brake slightly better. The ZR1 will handle and brake well enough and smoke it on the straights, translating to faster lap times on every track.
Braking system is a weak point on C8. I do agree on that point. GM is going a little softer on ZR1 vs Z06. Handling will depend on surface ant track conditions. Just saw Shmee GT over heat. Ford and Mulitimatic better look into such because videos will come out with owners who track.
I’m a Corvette guy period but that mustang is pretty cool. I’m a Corvette guy first but I’m a car guy close second and if there was some way for me to get both I’d do it
I’m a mustang fanboy through and through but, 1000hp factory, mid-engine, ~200k vs 300k 😬
The C8 ZR1 shouild compare better with the Ford GT not the Mustang
Zr1 = god speed of straight way🤘
Gtd= king of corner 😎
Both are insane 🇺🇸💪
Rip legendary viper 🐍
Corvette of course 😁
Like comparing apples to oranges, the GTD was designed specifically to compete on a track against the GT3 RS and AMG GT Black series.
And so far they ain't been doing too well
@@MrWheat-oy2vm Well they haven’t released a ring time so we don’t really know about that but yeah their race team hasn’t done that well yet but I still think it’s cool that they are competing in that class with a car that uses 70% Mustang GT engine parts.
The mustang isn't even in the same class as the Corvette. Four seater vs two seater. The Corvette wins hands down as far as class. Wish people would quit comparing the mustang in the same class.
I don't know about the gtd but at least the mustang v8 still comes with a manual. To be fair I'm apparently in the minority.
Corvette for the win, in both the race and the wallet $$$$$ Save a hundred thousand and change!
This ZR-1 with just basic ecu tuning on ethanol or 110 Octane race gas tune with bolt ons like headers down pipes mid pipes straight piped exhaust and hotter cams with an ice box to keep it all ice cold will probably put out way over 1500+hp even before adding bigger turbos and a stroker kit etc..
It’s almost unfair to compare them. The corvette has always been considered superior. The original rival of the mustang was the Camaro. Now the charger is the closest competitor. I don’t think it’s considered a pony car. It kind’ve fits the description. Muscle car, pony car they’re both pretty cool. The corvette is more a super car that evolved into a now, hyper car.
Mustang has better power to weight, 50/50 weight, better aerodynamics. Corvette has no idea what it wants. Either track, speed or both it has no clue.
@@benjaminmatute9085Respectfully, this is a pretty inane comment, especially if one takes 5 minutes to do a little research on the ZR1. It offers two packages: a low wing version, and the track focused ZTK package. Such has been a thing since the C7 ZR1, and plenty of other cars have done similar. It’s no different than Ford doing a GT350 and GT350R, or offering a track package for the GT500.
The ZR1 will literally give you both: speed, and track dominance, while also being a friendly car to drive on the street. Saying it doesn’t, “know what it wants”, is ridiculous.
@@benjaminmatute9085 no they have various versions of the vette for different things. The ZR1 is its hypercar basically and it smokes the stang you guys are something else. Some of you have brains at the very least you can see how many ford guys pick the vette over the stang.
@@danieldickerson4838 GTD still faster and better at track and the evidence is clear.
@@cmo5807 Claims without promise.
@5:34 i cant unsee how the mustang gtd looks like a turtle and by trying to overcompensate on performance, ford has really made this into a damn ugly car.
Corvette will always be above the Mustang, up next will probably be the Zora, it may be AWD with more power lol
Except for no more manuals. But to be fair I'm apparently in the minority. Manual mustang above womanual corvette.
Why are you surprised by the zr1 power figures? Guys like me have been saying for the past year on many videos that Chevy insiders and dealership insiders were saying that even 950+hp on shitty 91 octane California gas is not enough and nobody listened it seems. Now those same people who were proven correct if conservative in their predictions are saying the Zora will have an uprated zr1 engine plus two very powerful ev front motors to give over 1500+hp on normal pump gas.. Now imagine a Zora with full aftermarket bolt ons and ECU and tcu tuning and race gas plus larger turbos and methane injection and an icebox and hotter cams and uprated fuel system and straight piped exhaust and strengthened transmission?
Of course it’s the winner is the ZR1. Always has been, always will. The Mustang is bad ass but can they really compare to a Corvette? Nope. They are completely different classes of cars. The Ford GT, on the other hand, is in the same class as the Corvette and will give that ZR1 a run for its money. They are both supercars.
This ZR1 is a legit Super Car.
The GTD is a C6-C7 front engine corvette that ford is 10 years late to the game. These cars aren't even in the same class, ford needs a 1000hp Ford GT to compete.
Without question the ZR1 murdered the GTD all day!!!
The GTD doesn’t even hit 200
The ZR1 goes above 215 easy
Wait what how many mph the GTD goes?👀
Top speed doesnt mean anything compared to track times
That doesn’t translate into usable hp, you can have 2000hp civic, the second a turn is added into the equation everything changes. The Nur is great because it’s 13 mile long race track. It’ll be interesting to see the lap times of these two. I’m leaning towards the mustang tho in terms of lap times.
GTD 185 mph with the wing closed and 210 mph with DRS activated
Even if you think the Found On Road Dead crowd killer could be something. To real car guys we know who is king and who we know as the king's jester ... long live the King Corvette....ZR1
that GTD is cool AF, but that dark blue non ztk ZR1, so HOT. OK, I have two kidneys, what else can I sell?
Make no mistake that GTD is one heckuva car but that ZR1 will drag it into deep water & drown the horse.
Mustang vs Vette has never been a thing I don't think anyone will think they r but I'm here for it💪🏾
Not really fair. Mustangs compete with Camaros and Challengers, not Corvettes. They are both awesome for what they are, but of course the Vette will be a level above.
That mustang its not a competition for the zr1!!
Edmunds U - Drags ! Please.
Drags are stupid. 10% of the car. Want to know the capabilities of a car? Go to a real track
Edmunds U-drags aren’t just drag race. There’s braking and cornering involved too. That would be awesome to see these 2 beasts go head to head on a U-drag. My money on the vette of course
GTD for the price, but overall Zr1 on another level
The GTD is a joke that none of us care about. It’s a mass produced chassis that ford wants $300k for. It’s a gullible idiot trap. The corvette is a legend.
To speed phenom. This is no comparison these cars are not in the same class! Please start comparing it to actual cars in its class, this is embarrassing comparison. Show vs. Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. Maybe the mustang can match camaro ZL1 finally. Would you match the mustang up against a LA Ferrari, or Porsche GT2RS? No, point made.
You should say “all combustion” instead of “all motor” because that term already has meaning in the car world, and the ZR1 is not all motor since it has turbos
Y’all are trippin. The GTD has:
More downforce
Larger contact patch
SLA/pushrod suspension vs struts on the Corvette
Likely lighter
Better sound
DRS
Looks much better
And has an even weight distribution vs the 39/61 on the Corvette
The ZR1 is a Z06 with more power. The GTD is a radical reinvention of the sports car.
At least someone understands true race car engineering.
Wrong
You are trippin. A lot of the stuff you listed is either subjective or speculation. To me, the GTD looks tacky.
GTD is going to get smashed on the track or drag race bro. You are crazy lol watch the ZR1 numbers when they come out. This isn't even a debate😅
Lmao what?! How is the GTD a radical reinventing of the sports car when it's just their gt3 car with enough extras added on to make it legal on the roads. Porsche does the same thing with gt2/gt3 rs and has been doing it for years! Ford isn't re-inventing anything dude. The mustang in GT3 is barely competitive as is do they even have a win this season yet? I know team corvette does..
I think the ZR1 will do 9.4 1/4 mile run easy.
😂😂😂 not even close to 9.4 secs. Lucky if it even gets below 10.0
@BruceKent00 they stated its below 10. If the trap speed is 150, it's the same as a plaid
@@RichnZ06 trap speed means nothing. Many cars record a high trap speed but isn't reflected in the quarter mile. Trap speed is a guide but not the rule of quarter mile performance
@BruceKent00 true, but im sure it will. If it gets off the line as fast as a Z, it'll be fine
The chiron with 1500 awd hp runs 9.6 lol the zr1 is not doing that 😂
Corvette will always be the American king of the hill. Period
The competitor for the mustang was the camaro not the corvette. Easy W for the ZR1
The Zr1 is ridiculous and can be a daily but this mustang is going to be a menace on the track...an absolute unit. It's a special car. In the realm of the ford gt...built to that level. Its a street legal race car.
my guess:
track: gtd
drag race: zr1 for sure
also around $100k less than the GTD
Better looking car 🔥🔥 zr1 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Apples and oranges. Mustang is a pony car. Corvette is a GT. Having said that, the ZR1.
Austin, you rock! ZR-1 all the way. Peace
Thanks Ben!
The Corvette was never a muscle car like the Mustang. It was a true coupe sports car.
zr1 all day
Tadge said 215pmh comfortably, which leads me to believe that the top speed will be 220mph.
No comparison at all , ZR1 a far better car
Its more like GTD vs Z06..ZR1 is next level up. Then Zoro.
If I could only have one I would take the GTD. It looks outrageous and special.
You would pass on a mid engine sports car for a nose heavy pony car…..interesting. Why?
@@Jcs57His brain is rotting, don't be too logical with a fanboy ! 😂 lol
@@Jcs57 he has a Challenger as his picture so I guess he likes the heavy boats
@@Jcs57 I like muscle cars, and it wouldn’t shock me at all if the GTD is faster around the ring than the ZR1. The GTD is purpose built.
The ZR1 looks more of a jack of all trades, but will it do an 8 sec 1/4 mile like the 170, or break the Ring record?
We will find out.
Mustang GTD would be about as fast as a Corvette Z06. The ZR1 will be way faster.
Crazy that the GTD will probably end up costing more when optioned out.
As it should. The GTD is more limited with actual race bits in it. It’s basically a GT3 Car without BOP. It’s a f’ing track car. Not a stupid car for the quarter mile
@@solidsnake7167 The ZR1 will be a better track car. A mustang is a mustang, no matter how many carbon fiber bits the put on it.
@@feagleExactly!
@@feagle And a Corvette is still a Corvette. Ford rule track and straight line. And the GTD is a purpose built track car with way more technology than the new ZR1. You guys just hate on Ford because they are superior, so now that Chevy release a car that has 1064hp from the factory it will automatically beat a GTD, use your brains. It has DRS that alone makes it better than the ZR1 around a track. I don't see the new ZR1's being built by multimatic. Yeah the ZR1 is cool and all but it is leaguies below a GTD point blank period.
@@feagleDumbest take possible.😂 Do you think this is a Mustang GT? Educate yourself
Corvette ALL day ALWAYS. mustang is of no consequence
So did the corvette enter into hypercar territory? Or are we still just entering super car territory?
I think you’re forgetting to mention the fact that the ZR1 is 4000lbs. The Mustang has much higher downforce as well.
The corvette weighs less than 4000lbs it’s even lighter than the gtd
You're comparing a ball peen hammer with a sledgehammer
If you think a gt500 derived engine can’t hit 1000+ rwhp you’re smoking crack. There are gt500s sitting at 1300rwhp. If for wanted the power they’d have it. And gt500 has already gone beyond 200mph all day. You guys are killin me with this. Don’t get me wrong good job Chevy but fords already been there. Just RUclips 1300ho gt500 and make sure you have lots of time.
As a c8 fan, gtd is just much cooler. I've never been so excited for a car.
Ford needs to stop with supercharging and embrace V8 turbos. The GTD is inferior engineering compared to zr1. I'm also a Ford mustang fanatic but have been very disappointed with Ford triple down on supercharging strategy. Whoever agreed to supercharging a 300k car should be fired or step down from their role.