Reaction To The Crazy American 1866 Proposal to Annex Canada
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- Reaction To The Crazy American 1866 Proposal to Annex Canada
This is my reaction to The Crazy American 1866 Proposal to Annex Canada
In this video I react to Canadian history by looking at a moment from 1866 where an American politician raised the idea of annexing Canada.
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Not a damned chance !! WE were the UEL, remember - we went north because we chose NOT to secede from the Commonwealth. Highly unlikely we'd have acquiesced to annexation by the US - who've ALWATS had their greedy eyes on our water and other natural resources.
You beat me to the comments. I tip my UE hat to you. Also what about the French who populated New Brunswick and Quebec. Not chance for the silly Americas. LOL
Quebec descendant here- no way those godless protestants were going to rule over Quebec. All things being equal, the British were relatively magnanimous when they conquered Quebec, allowing religion and French civil law to remain.
THANK GOD IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!
@@rb239rtrand what about the Great Depetatuon. Whete the Brits deported French people and essentially stomped out French culture there.
@@curtisberard7831 read "relatively magnanimous". The Acadian expulsion was not Quebec, and happened during the Seven Years war.
The illustration @2:30 is less than a mile from my house, the Battle of Ridgeway. A friend wrote the definitive book on the Fenian raids. Civil War hardened Irish American troops wanted to seize Canada as a bargaining chip for a free Ireland and the US just assumed Canada would jump at the chance for FREEDOM, LOL, but we already considered ourselves free and happy campers. The Americans thought all of North America should be theirs. The belief was called "Manifest Destiny". I call it arrogance.
The video failed to mention that the US had a policy 54/40 or fight. When they purchased Alaska from Russia they wanted Canada to GIVE them the entire west coast to join Alaska with the NW US. Like that was going to happen. Even the NW US was surveyed and claimed by "Canada" but the UK basically gave away Oregon and Washington. Thank you UK.
British explorers working as fur traders and for the Hudson Bay Company crossed North America by land way before Lewis and Clark but American history books of course inaccurately say otherwise. David Thompson went to a school for the poor and orphaned in London and at 14 was sent to work with the HBC in what became Churchill. He became a surveyor covering @80,000 km on foot or by canoe. He later settled in Montreal, was ripped off by publishers when he tried to write a book and publish his maps and died penniless, even selling his surveying tools. Alexander MacKenzie, a Scottish fur trader, was considered the first man to cross North America in 1793.
Thank goddess this never happened although the Orange Ego likely still harbours dreams of being Czar of North America including Mexico. PULEEEZE! 🙄
David Thompson is likewise a personal hero, and over many years I have - when possible - walked many of the exploration routes documented in his accounts. His contribution is enormous and almost incalcuable, and his navigation astonishing.
But as to the modern day: Perhaps as a first step, send the U.S. Congress a group of "sample representatives" with one-way tickets and 'exceptional' Visas, allowing participation in House proceedings. Begin with, say, Trudeau & Freeland, Singh, Blanchet, Boissenault and Guilibault (although with a criminal conviction and jail time, the latter may be ineligible). If the Congressional bun fights over the last decade are any indication, the "new representatives" would add views & dimensions to the existing overall jollification. The long-term view of all this overall would depend on which Member of Congress was asked. However, one might expect 'vigorous debate to occur' about matters like a Congressional Carbon Tax or Capital Gains Tax.
I have not been following U.S. politics in close detail recently, but what trickles through suggests this might bring some fresh discussion' for all concerned. For instance, Czar Jagmeet of the American Democratic Party would bring new ideas and foster much debate on matters both domestic and international.
As most others have said, after the American Revolution, most of the loyalists actually moved north to remain under the King. If anything today, Canadians struggle with our own cultural identity because of the overwhelming American influence in arts, entertainment, literature, media and politics. While we may not be sure of exactly who we are but all of us are sure the one thing... we are not Americans!
AMEN!!!😊
@@keithpeden7664 Speak for YOURSELF....I live near the U.S. border(thankfully)and I spend plenty of Time and Cash(monthly) in the "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave!". :)
Plus close Friends, and more Freedom and Fun....that has kept Me Sane thru the Endless Canuckistani B.S. lockdowns, and Travel limitations.
Canada is Dirty-Dusty KANSAS, and the U.S. is Plentiful-Fun "OZ"....lol
lol God save the King!!!!
You forget how the Canadians fought in WW1? We wouldn't put up with that shit from the Americans.
And WWII
And ww1. It was still an issue after ww1. Look up the buster browns, a border patrol after ww1 because of concerns for american invasion@@CanuckTony
@@kelvinb4683 LOLOLOLOL!.....Seems you have been smoking too Much of "Justine's" dope!.
Ohhhhhhh yeah the YANKS are shaking in their Boots.....worried about "Canuckistans "Tin-Pot Navy, 2 dozen Old Rusty Leopard Tanks, and the 2 dozen Aging Jet fighters"!!!.
Clearly, YOU have Not seen the MIGHT of their Armed Forces!. The Michigan National Guard is Better Equipped than Canuckistans entire "Military(all branches combined)". :)
@@kelvinb4683 Truly.....Hilarious!.....Ohhhhhhh yeah the U.S.A. is "Afraid" of the Tiny, Disoriented, and Poorly Equipped "Woke" Canuckistans armed Forces.
😆......Best Laugh I had in Years! :)
Lol they tried that in 1812 it didnt work out to well😂
Guess what happens in 2024? One big 51st state
@@tysoncomfort4244 Yes, and that was 99% due to the British Navy and Experienced British "Redcoats(and able Officers)". Added to that Fact the U.S. Army was rather "Inexperienced and lacking" in any true desire to March away from Home....LOL!.
Hopefully You Don't Think or Believe that Canadian Anglo-French Untrained "Militiamen" drove the Yanks away?!. LOL. :)
Before British Columbia became a province there was an annexation movement here that wrote to the USA to try to get them to annex British Columbia, but it obviously didn't work.
The years 1939-1941 might have been very different. The Axis might have won without Canada's naval contribution.
Canada was nervous about sending an army to Europe for fear the Yanks might take the opportunity to invade. Not that long ago a US senator said we should just go up and take the water. If our country looks like it might fail the US might invade to "restore order".
Even in the late 1800`s and early 1900`s there were races for spur rail lines in southern British Columbia as many mines discovered various minerals, ores. The American`s were in competition for their rail lines taking the ore out of Seattle or Portland instead of Vancouver. The Canadian Pacific Railway beat the US to the mining riches and the ores were shipped east and west through Canada. The Kettle Valley Railway ran till 1964. Many other smaller lines connected mines to the KVR.
Alexander MacKenzie was the first man to cross N America to the Pacific, not Lewis and Clark. David Thompson also surveyed and mapped the west way before them.
This fellow has not read " code plan red" written by an american school teacher,s research using the release of information from the official secrets that reached public maturity. There is still an active invasion plan , there was a plan t invade during ww 2. Its interesting dut alarming reading
I remember listening to the Kettle Valley Railroad trains chugging up the valley as a child. Bike trail now, of course.
Wow, i didn't know that, glad you did the vid. Doesn't surprise me though.
WOW!!!! I'm going to 60 soon. I never knew anything about this. I's so glad U or someone connected to U got this video. As they, loose something new every day!!! Knowledge is power.
We 🇨🇦 did consider building a wall and making them 🇺🇲 pay for it, but that seemed a lot of work. Our 'longest undefended border in the world' seems to work primarily because they 🇺🇲 can't wrap their heads around the idea there may be other folk elsewhere (like us 🇨🇦...!) who have no desire to be 🇺🇲... Mostly say this 'nicely' but it does seem to rock their world; just dunno how to deal with this.
I'm not sure how the US at that time would have dealt with Quebec as from almost day one, they have claimed 'distinct society' and cried for independance. The same goes with BC Alberta and Saskatchewan. Those three provinces have been wanting more representation in Ontario or alternatly become their own country. That debat is still ongoing. Who knows how it will turn out.
Canada had a lot of policies early on to encourage people to move into the western part of the country. I don't think that would have been a priority if this territory were part of the US. After all the policy was aimed at ensuring Canadian sovereignty. Americans were encroaching into parts of Canada. Look up fort Whoop-Up. 'Fort Whoop-Up was the earliest and most notorious of the "whisky forts" built by Americans on Canadian soil.'
The Canadian colonies had to put up with the Fenian raids after the Civil War, and that was the major catalyst for the unification of the colonies into the dominion of Canada.
Toronto, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay, Montreal and Ottawa would have remained small cities, since they basically duplicate functions already carried out by U.S. cities. The Transcanada Railway and Transcanada Pipeline would never have been built. Nova Scotia and Canada west of Ontario would be much more similar to the states to the south. Only Ontario, Quebec and French New Brunswick would be recognizable.
Very interesting. I think if the US annexed Canada, Quebec would have eventually become English like Louisiana. A lot of french Canadian's migrated to the Northern US for work after confederation. If Canada breaks up in future I can see Canadian provinces joining the US, or perhaps forming a federation with those US states who no longer want to remain part of the current US. I can the US breaking up along Espanic linguistic lines
Ontario and Quebec. What happened to (New Brunswick with Nova Scotia as one) and Prince Edward Island! How dare he. Signing that document happened in Charlottetown, PEI!! I’m outraged!!! 😢. A huge influx of UK moved to Canada because they didn’t want to be part of the USA. My home town has a beautiful and wide river. The Scots settled on the north side and the Irish on the south. Made for interesting times, according to my family tales.
Newfoundland was independent until 1949
where ?
@@fnanette1 It was still a British colony I believe.
@@danielalexandermclachlanga3781
Miramichi, New Brunswick
I just noticed your name. M great grandmother’s surname…..MacLachlan! Hello!
In 1866, Canada was Ontario and Quebec.
I’m very glad it never happened.
But who knows what Trump might attempt if he gets elected.
Proud to be a Scottish Canadian 🇨🇦
He just said that so cool. The Finnian invasion was a big deal. Full on war.
What bloody, arrogant, gall, then and now. It was an afront to all who lived in Canada at that time, and is even more of an insult to those who live in Canada now. In addition, our sovereignty is not up for debate, whether serious or frivolous. When you live in nearly paradise why would you opt for hell? Canadians know what an amazing country we have and would never want to be annex by any other country. As a constitutional, democratic monarchy, we enjoy rights and privileges US citizens are not even aware they are lacking.
The twisted nationalism taught to all citizen of the USA deludes them into thinking they are the greatest and everyone wants to move to their country. If they ever bothered to travel, they would discover countries around the world are beautiful, prosperous, friendly and safe. Maybe you cannot buy Jif Peanut Butter or Little Debbie Cakes (both garbage) in all of the countries but at least you can go shopping without being shot. Chimo
Mert, you asked how Canada would be different today if we had been annexed by the USA back in 1866. Well, I think every one would own at least 10 guns and our murder rate would be much higher. lol. Just joking. Seriously though, it would be much worse than that. There would be no Stanley Cup, hell, there wouldn't be any hockey at all. What would we do on Saturday nights?
How did Newfoundland get involved in this?
It wouldn't have mattered to the US. Ours, ours, ours. Manifest Destiny and all that 💩
most canadians dont mind americans as long as they dont live here
@@robertfraser845 That is Truly FUNNY, Considering that the Yanks Living in Florida absolutely HATE All the Nasty "Quebecers" that LIVE there, and expect the Yanks to Kiss their inbred arses(like the SHEEPLE in Canada do!). :)
to be part of the nuthouse that is the united states, no thanks. keep and fix your problems and we will do the same.
If you're looking for more videos on Canada/US relations, might I recommend BobbyBroccoli's 2 part series on Nortel "The Company that Broke Canada"
It's a rather fascinating piece on the history of telephone and internet networks in North America, and the fraught relationship Canada has with the US as we rely on them for trade while desperately trying to avoid becoming subservient.
And of course at the center of the story, Nortel, the company that was on track to turn Ottawa into the tech capital of the world, until it all came crashing down.
Yep. Frank Dunn. When the stock went to about 85 cents I bought 2,000 shares and later sold at 11.40 a share before it dropped again. My only attempt at playing the stock market. I lucked out and quit.
After a revolution and a civil war; that's very funny. No. And I do not like the word 'annex' for some reason other than France back in 911 AD; omg here come the Normans.
well tg that didn't happen Nova Scotia Strong yay
I'm Albertan and I have never heard any discussions about alberta joining the USA...
You're joking, right? There are MLAs and some of Danielle Smith's UCP buddies who yap nonstop either about separatism or joining the U.S.
If they want to be American, let them go there and never come back.
Alberta is the most American place in Canada. Everywhere else is way more Canadian. Colorado and Maine are more Canadian than Alberta.
You need to get out of your mother's basement dude.
Noooooooooooo……… NEVER!
Fun fact you can always tell when there's a map made in the United states, because the lines of longitude and latitude incorrectly and intentionally make the United States larger on the map, on a regular map that's made internationally will show Canada much bigger than the states
They failed once before
They tried twice. Once in their war for independence, and again in the war of 1812.
200+ years ago 😂 Canada would be toast if it happened now.
@@DeusSalisAmerica wouldn't get away with trying. The world would be on their doorstep in seconds. America wouldn't have a chance.
@@northernsnow6982 lol sure if that helps you sleep at night keep believing it.
@DeusSalis I don't have problems sleeping. I'm not American, so I don't have to worry at night. My doors stay unlocked every night, just in case someone only makes it halfway home and needs a place to crash. That's not bad for living in the middle of a city.
Just a little history lesson for you. USA tends to lose wars they fight on their own, especially when it comes to fighting places that are spread out across the land. I mean, they couldn't even get the job done in Canada the first two times they tried. It doesn't matter when it was, America had greater numbers of troops, and couldn't handle the small amount of "Canadians."
Americans also couldn't successfully create a ceasefire in Vietnam, and they had to run away from that 19-year war, with their tails tucked between their legs. They literally ran for their lives, getting plucked up by helicopters off the roof of a building at the end. That was less than 50 years ago. They ran from that war. Don't you know these well-known facts?
A very similar thing happened in Afghanistan with that 10-year war. The Taliban owned that war, and the Americans ran away tails tucked once again, leaving behind many Americans to fend for themselves for a second time. Do you forget this? These last two examples are recent wars, against smaller sized countries, that didn't have nearly as much backing as Canada would in a war against the un-United States of Dumberica. The world would rally behind peaceful Canada and not have anything to do with bullshit American bullying.
You might want to watch out. If the rest of the world starts realising the pattern, Americans might soon be in trouble. I wouldn't want to be known as the military force who runs away from conflicts they are trying to solve by force. That would be embarrassing as all hell to live with! Especially if I was part of a country that portrays itself as the powerhouse that America thinks it is.
If you want to do something productive as a country, stop trying to police the world. You want to actually police the world, stop running away from every conflict you get involved with. It makes the country look as weak and unqualified for the job, as it is for the job. Seriously, look up American conflicts and see how many they've lost. Because I guarantee you think Americans have never lost a war, which is ridiculous even when you're looking at American history books.
When USA talks like this How do you feel if there was a video saying look how big England would be if they just decided to take over Scotland and Northern Ireland and Wales
Whoo hoo! Being from just north of Toronto... not much would've changed for me, I guess! My dad is from Nova Scotia... and they'd still be part of the British Canada too.
I'm Canadian and for all of my life I would have opposed this but these last couple of years with our government have me wishing they would have lol
Pack your crap and head south then.
@@clonejones7955 - Amen.
Don't even go there son. Can you imagine thousands of American carpetbaggers running around Canada?
@@billfarley9167 that's true. I wasn't really thinking about everything that would come here
Biden is almost as bad as Trudeaupe lol good thing Orange Man is about to come back
The easy answer as always is ….thanks but thanks America. We very happy without you!
The feeling is mutual!
one of the historical reasons Canadians feel about the US government. They want it all, and still want it all today
I have heard recently that the American Constitution still contains a clause that offers Canada an opportunity to become American! I would like to reply to that as any Canadian should, with a little Italian-style hand gestures(sorry for any cultural appropriation) ,an ever so polite smile/smirk, and the sweetness sounding, "Thanks but just stick it up your arse." And not to forget our usual hospitality, "And by the way it's tourist season, and ketchup chips are on sale this week. You know how to get here. See you soon".
Ok
Beautiful. Love it!
You didn't say sorry.
How about British gesture that the British gave to the French after the battle of Againton court. The popular middle finger when the subject comes up.
Yes the culture would be drastically different. There would be none.
Care to elaborate?
@@DeusSaliswhen most Americans don’t know where is Texas or that there country IS a country and NOT a whole continent as starters…
A year after Comfederation??? Whaaat???? Nobody told the americans that Canada was a nation now???
War would broken out. They forget to mention 30% of the British colonies of the US wanted to stay loyal to the crown and moved to the colonies of Canada as well as New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. They were called St. John New Brunswick had 30,000 Loyalist settle in the surrounding area as well as Kingston Ontario, which had over 100,000 settle in the area, these were not small. And other small groups of Royalists settled in other parts of Canada but when you think of the original colonies 30%, and I know some return to England, but Canada saw large growth with the loyalists.
Never in a million years !! !
I would leave. My family fought the Americans in the 1776 insurrection. We fought them in 1812. If they had tried annexation of Canada, I am sure my family would have fought them then as well. A story passed down in my family talks about Americans as evil. During the 1776 insurrection, an event happened where a woman was burnt at the stake, and her children tied to a barrel of gun powder and detonated. Members of my family helped with the aftermath. The story was so repugnant it has been recorded and told over and over. The woman was the child of a US general. She and her husband chose to side with the Britsh. The dad did not like this and chose to terminate that whole family. The husband only survived because he was fighting for the British and not home. This story has been passed down so no one in the family would let their guard down when it came to Americans. This event by the by is documented, and the reports by the witnesses and townspeople are recorded at the Canada War Museum. Side note, my father cut my sister out of his life when she moved to the US. They never spoke for 22 years before he died. The story and its cautionary tale hold huge sway in my family. Besides all this, we are monarchist and support our crown and country.
Can you imagine how insane things would be if all of North America were all American? Population would be near a billion, for sure. Those Great lakes would be all in bottles.
China and India still have fresh water.
Currently there's a strong movement in the province of Alberta to secede from Canada and join with the USA. In your dreams Alberta. One wonders if there's serious coin coming from the USA to help in the process. Be vigilant Canada.
They'd never get statehood for a long time. Be a territory.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that all Albertans support these separatist lunatics. And considering that Danielle Smith is cozy with a bunch of right-wing American politicians and media, of course there's money in this.
Free dumbers should move en masse to US. They are maga minded.
@@Shan_Dalamani To quote Mark Twain:
Loyalty to country - Always.
Loyalty to government - When it deserves it.
What make you think the U.S. would even want Alberta? Don't flatter yourself.
The natural flow of people and goods use to be up and down the seaboard.canadas east coast was holiday destination for wealthy Americans.
The Confederation of Canada happened in PEI
After 9 years of Trudeau, it now seems like a good idea.
I'm an actual Canadian by the way.
Likewise. I hate to say I'd welcome it. QC is basically holding Canada hostage and we're being overrun.
Then you are not Canadian.
Joining the U.S.? No thanks
Then leave. And don't bother coming back.
@@andywood5699 More Canadian than you'll ever be sunshine.
This is an idea that many, many American politicians were obsessed with right into the 20th century, contrary to what the author of this video concludes, and what many Canadians actually believe. There were, in fact, Canadian federal politicians and business people who wanted to be annexed by the US at the time of confederation. The entire idea behind the Northern Pacific railroad in the US was predicated upon it being a useful industrial project for annexing western Canada, and with the West in the American union the East would then have no choice but to join the US, as well. Moreover, Sir John A. Macdonald, Canada's first prime minister, was nothing more than a British imperial style politician and opportunist, and literally wrote that he wanted to turn the West into colonies to be administered from Ottawa. That is all Macdonald and every other Conservative party politician saw the country as being; an imperial project for the dominance of Ontario and Quebec industrialists. Liberal party politicians were little different. Ninety nine percent of Canadians don't know this and have never even heard of this, so they think that Canada was always supposed to be some sort of perfect alternative to the US, but it was never envisioned that way and has not turned out to be that way even in 2024. Sorry my fellow Canadians but you are pretty clueless about the history of your own country or how it really works to this day. 👀🤷😯😠
You were doing great until the last when you threw in some narly criticism.
@@billfarley9167 Which part was that Bill? I think I was perfectly fair in everything I said. Most people think Macdonald was a wonderful, far-sighted patriot when he was anything but. There is an easily made case that he was guilty of treason when he did not concede that the Northern Pacific investors had outmanoeuvred him and inform Parliament that he had been dishonest in not doing so. Canada is run to this day almost solely for the benefit of Ontario and Quebec, something anyone who is not stupid or wilfully blind can easily see.
I wish they would. Would be nice actually being able to defend yourself, speak freely and not pay for other people's healthcare.
Your healthcare would be a lot more expensive nonetheless. The US has the most expensive healthcare in the world.
@@garyyoung3179 a healthy Canadian will pay way more over their lifetime in extra taxes for universal healthcare than a healthy American will ever pay in their life.
"Not pay for other people's healthcare." How selfish dude. You've totally missed the point.