A few other things worth looking into: 1. Vimy Ridge - The WW1 battle often considered to be the birth of the Canadian identity. 2. The connection between Acadian (French Canadian group expelled by the British) and the Louisiana Cajun culture.
It’s important to remember that after the British conquest of New France was completed after the Seven Years War, the British implemented the Quebec Act. The Quebec Act did many things to tick off the American colonists, but some things that were “intolerable” to them were the protection of the French language, the protection of Catholicism, and the protection of the French Civil Code in place of English Common Law. Even by 1812 the vast majority of what would become Canada was French speaking and Catholic, although the Americans centred their invasions on Protestant/English Lower Canada (Southern Ontario). The Royal Proclamation of 1763 goes a long way to explaining why Indigenous peoples also supported the British Crown. So the war of 1812 united a diverse group who were afraid of having their freedoms taken away by the US government.
I would ad that even english subjets established in Québec and else where didn't like it too. The only fact that we still exist is a nightmare for a lot of "canadians."
The line: “And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.” Was British/Canadian rockets falling during the "Battle for Fort McHenry" in 1814.
What about Fort Detroit? Where 2000 American regulars surrendered to 800 Canadian Militia and 400 Native troops? British ships shelled Ft Detroit for a few hours inflicting 15 injuries and killed. And the Americans surrendered. In 1812 Madison was mad he was the president you know. Well he THOUGHT he'd tell the British where they ought to go. He THOUGHT he'd invade Canada. He thought that he was tough.... instead we went to Washington...... and bund burned down all his shit. And the white house burned burned burned 🔥👌😬
Your honesty and humility’s in approaching these topics is inspiring. Thank you for taking the time to expand your horizons. We should all be so bold. Thank you.
If you are seriously interested in this part of history, Pierre Berton wrote a two volume set called The Invasion of Canada and Flames Across The Border. It gets seriously into the reasons for the war, the alliance of Indigenous people fighting on the Canadian side, specific battles and the politics of it all. Berton writes history like you have never read it before and you can see yourself standing on the battlefield with a musket in your hand. Every question you pose here has an answer more complex and detailed than you will ever get from a video.
Indigenous peoples were in favour of the British concept of multiple kingdoms under one crown.. and opposed to the American system that didn’t recognize them as human
Thanks for the recommendation, I think I'll try to find these books. My knowledge of this part of Canadian history isn't great. I was in French immersion at the time and was having comprehension issues, and history class was taught in French. So a lot of it didn't sink in properly. That was grade 7 and 8, and by grade 9, I had switched to an English high school, but we'd moved on to WWI etc.
I miss Pierre Berton. He was the best journalist and interviewer. He was a true gentleman. My cousins use to live right down the road from him. We always tried to meet him but he was never around.
So there is a larger version of this film that is roughly 2 hours longs and will give you more of an overall history of the war. As I side note I am a Canadian that happens to be an 1812 reenactor and our group portrays a British regiment that participated in the war during its latter half. There were some of us that actually were placed in the full feature as extras.
You ever get tired of Americans telling us we have no true history? Every video that forefronts Canada, I always seem to find the Americans that are like "Canada never existed then" like a) it did we were Upper and Lower Canada, but also b) we don't care we consider it our history anyways :|
My favourite battle that I was taught about was when we didn’t have nearly enough soldiers to take a heavy fortified American fort we just lined up our troops and ran them in a line past the fort, circling around a bunch of trees sprinting to the back of the line to make it look like we had tons of soldiers. And it worked
You are probably thinking of the Battle of Fort Detroit which is one of my favourites and an incredible fascinating battle. If I remember correctly it was also the only time Brock and Tecumseh met and fought together
You’re mostly correct with your facts. Brock had his Canadian militia dawn British Regular’s surplus uniforms to look more professional and capable of a long siege, and it was the aboriginal warriors who attached themselves to Brock’s forces who paraded themselves on rotation to appear much larger than was in reality. The British troops & Canadian militia did not parade themselves as you described, only the aboriginal warriors did.
Lacking the numbers against the larger USA, Canadian with help of Canadian natives used many ingenious tactics to force the Americans out of Canadian territory. It gave the diverse Canadian population a reason to unite, the Canadian population increased and once trade between US and Canada returned to normal both countries prospered and grew their economies.
Didn’t one person get a bunch of first nations to constantly run in a circle around a base in the trees causing them to think there were ten times more and surrender
As a Canadian, it makes me happy to know others find our history fascinating. We learnt about the war in elementary school. It went over my head then, but now it’s fascinating
The major battle for Canadians was the Battle of Queenston Heights where American forces were driven back across the Niagara River by the Canadian militia and about 80 Mohawks under the command of John Brant and John Norton (half Cherokee).
Hi Tyler, I'm a french canadian from Montréal. Lived here all my life, and I'm learning a lot about Canada from your videos. They are fun and very educative. Thank you! You're reacting to Canadian things is a great idea. And I think we will shortly want to adopt you.
The main street in my town is Tecumseh. The war of 1812.pretty big around here. Across from Detroit. A big rabbit hole of history just in this little place on earth. Slight of hand won this area for Canada. Look it up
Hi Tyler, not Salivary but Salaberry: Lieutenant Colonel Charles-Michel d'Irumberry de Salaberry, CB (November 19, 1778 - February 27, 1829) was a Canadian military officer and statesman of the seigneurial class who served in various campaigns for the British Army. He won distinction for repelling the American advance on Montreal during the War of 1812.
My area was known for the Battle of the Thames and the assistance they got from Chief Tecumseh. There is a memorial site to Tecumseh a parkway and a school that bears his name.
War of 1812: June 1812 - January 1815. This video skimmed only a tiny bit off the top! There is so much more! For instance, the 1st ever combined US Navy/US Army beach landing was on April 27th, 1813, at York (now Toronto). A British company of the 8th Regiment of Foot were defending the beach and were outnumbered when the first US wave landed - there were three more waves. This company of the 8th suffered over 60% casualties. Then the US Army spent three days burning and pillaging York (Toronto) before moving on to Niagara-on-the-Lake. Over the 3.5 years three major USA invasions occurred on the Niagara frontier and each was eventually repelled by British regulars (two "British" regular regiments were raised in Canada) and several Canadian militia regiments. De Salaberry was the commander of the Lower Canada (Quebec) Militia Regiment that at Chateauguay with a force of 400 repelled an American force of over 4000. The British in 1814 sailed from Europe with a fleet and army freed from their task of defeating Napolean to attack Washington, Baltimore ("The Star-Spangled Banner") and later Mobile, New Orleans and Mobile again. No Canadians were involved. Instead, the Canadian Militia and especially the Incorporated Militia of Upper Canada (IMUC) Regiment was busy defending the Niagara Peninsula (see Battle of Lundy's Lane - July 25th, 1814) Summer 1814 the British have finally defeated Napolean and their entire fleet and massive European army is now freed to sail to North America and finally end the war they never wanted. That summer the largest battleship in the entire Royal Navy Fleet (worldwide) is launched at the shipyard in Kingston, Upper Canada (Ontario). She is the HMS St Lawrence, and she had three gun-decks with a total fire power of 102 guns. This one vessel had the firepower of the entire US Navy fleet of Lake Ontario and the British were building two more just like her...Peace talks ensued. I could go on, and on, and on....
Its just sad many of our American Neighbours are arrogant, they like to point out "Oh well you were still a British Colony so we technically were fighting the British not Canadians" and then they also go on to say "Canada stayed a part of The United Kingdom until 1982, which is super embarrassing thing being controlled by them for so long". Like does it look like we are bothered about those facts? Its part of our History its part of who we are and our culture so no, we are not embarrassed about that, only thing we are embarrassed and regret is the unforgivable things we've done to the First Nations, which we do want to mend those friendships back stronger with the First Nations. Plus also its Canadian History, Canadians write and determine Canadian History, Americans don't write Canadian History. This same dumb thing happened when Canada was announced as a playable Civ in Civilization VI.
@@somebodykares1 Agreed. Americans are not even able to write their own. So americans don't know that there's been a war in 1812. and those who know are talking about a draw. False, americans were kick out of Canada. They started the war not us.
@@LouismarieBelanger Canada successfully defended, American successfully failed to annex. Those were the goals, but people claim a win is only when land is claimed, while extra land is a bonus, not all wars have ended with that much land changed besides the big wars.
One thing many people don't realize is how involved the U.K.'s army still is in Canada. They are consistently stationed here for training that just isn't otherwise available to them back home.
Lieutenant Colonel Charles-Michel d'Irumberry de Salaberry, CB (19 November 1778 - 27 February 1829) was a Canadian military officer and statesman of the seigneurial class who served in various campaigns for the British Army.
Another great video. I like how you take the viewer through these topics - good commentary and interesting. Have to admit I snorted my coffee when you were trying to search for Salaberry and Chateauguay - french of course!
I just found your channel and I am really enjoying watching you learn about the history of Canada. As a Canadian living in the US for over 30 years, and having raised 2 American children going through the US school system, I have been amazed that so little is taught to Americans about Canada. Canadian schools do teach American history and culture, probably because it is so dominating to our own culture. It is often said that the definition of a Canadian identity is "I am NOT American!" When my sons were in elementary school and studied the War of 1812 history, there was only a two sentence paragraph in their text book. It said there was a war between Great Britain and the US. And that it ended in a draw when the US troops "decided to withdraw" from the territory it had captured in Canada! I took a picture of the paragraph and shared it with many of my friends and family back in Canada! I have an undergraduate degree in British North American history, and could not believe that this is what they were teaching my children about the War of 1812! In 2012 Canada commemorated the bicentennial anniversary of the War with commemorative stamps and coins depicting the pivotal events and figures. Lots of events were held nationwide featuring the victory over the US. Did you hear even one word about the 200th anniversary of the War here in the US? I didn't.
Because the war did end in a draw, what they teach in Canada is a joke especially about the myths of the war (Brock was killed at Queenston failing to retake the heights it was the Mohawks that saved the day or Tecumseh who was killed at the Themes but yet is still seen as a hero even tho it ended the native confederacy) and leave out the causes like impressment and natives supported by British attacking settlers. There was in the US at Baltimore fleet week ect ect there is even a video of Obama speaking at Baltimore on RUclips. Plus we have more history in the US where we don’t sit around one war unlike Canada that had no affect on statehood. If anything Canada should be looking more at the rebellions of 1837-38 and the Fenian raids which lead to confederation.
American history tells heavily about the honourable struggles of the USA. Casting themselves as "the bad guys" doesn't fit with American culture. As Tyler said they were a legitimate threat to Canadian culture and identity. Canada fought for its survival as a nation. Today both Canada and the US support Ukraine. There's no way the Americans are ready (210 years later) to come to grips with the time they acted like Russia is acting right now.
@@trudycolborne2371 Actually it didn’t. The British were in fact attacking American shipping and supporting native attacks against the USA. In fact the only ones that have the myths are Canada since the war had nothing to do with annexing Canada since the USA voted against it before even attacking. Also the British/Canadian side attacked first 🤷♂️ if anything the USA was Ukraine.
@@TheIceman567 The British imposed trade embargoes (economic sanctions) on the USA. The British didn't try to seize American territory during the war. The US declared the war of 1812. We could argue all day, as historians have, about how much of the cause was about Martitime shipping and how much was expansionism. Saying the US was Ukraine is like Russia claiming they are really the ones who were attacked and threatened and so they had no choice but to roll tanks in to Ukraine. That's exactly what the propagandists say to protect the Russian image. What do you have to say about December 1813 when the Americans burned the village of Newark, leaving the civilians without shelter in the Canadian winter? Were they hiding a chemical weapons lab there, Putin?
@@trudycolborne2371 Wrong they did, an Indian buffer state, Maine ( which they occupied East Port, Maine until 1818) and Minnesota to control the upper Mississippi. But yet they were attacked the British were doing what the Russians were doing arming and supplying weapons to a group that was fighting the owners on the land next to impressment not just the trade blockade. What do I say about Newark? I see it as revenge since the British started it at Frenchtown, Michigan Territory and Hampton Roads and Georgetown, Virginia in June 1813🤷♂️ were the citizen there doing that especially Frenchtown was in January of 1813. Do yourself a favor and study the actual facts of the war and not the myths you taught on Canadian schools. Also, the war started With the capture on the Detroit River of the American merchant schooner Cuyahoga Packet by several members of Canadian Provincial Marine in a rowboat. The American vessel contained official documents with information valuable to the British belonging to Brigadier General William Hull. Hull was unaware that war had been declared when he dispatched the schooner. Your own late Canadian historian Pierre Berton’s knowledge, remember that the next time you hear your countrymen claim that the US declared war simply to “steal” Canada. In Berton’s book “Flames Over the Border” he made it very clear that annexing Canada was NOT the chief war goal of the US. He even stated that Britain treated the US as if it was still a colony. His words, not mine. Aside from that, when you read his books, you feel as if you are in the story feeling the wind and the frost. Amazing writer.
what's amazing to me as a Canadian is how differently this war is taught in Canada vs the US. Great reaction! Please follow this up with "Tom Brokaw Explains Canada To Americans" which ties the war of 1812 to today
“The acquisition of Canada this year, as far as the neighborhood of Quebec, will be a mere matter of marching; & will give us experience for the attack of Halifax the next, & the final expulsion of England from the American continent.” Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 4 August 1812
That Tom Brokaw video is old, and Canada is far more engaged in snide virtue signals today. It has an inferiority complex that's expressed in a weird sort of superiority complex.
You could also look into the Canada "Heritage Minutes" that are one minute history ads/commercials that touch on many events even some (2?) about the war of 1812. There wasn't exactly a UK back then, but Canada was British Territory. We're still Commonwealth members. So... "Sod off Yanks!" 🤣 Charles de Salaberry - Wikipedia if you want to learn about "that guy".
In the book "Flames Across the Border" by Pierre Berton, he points out that many of the new settlers in what is now Niagara came there from the States for land grants and were not really political at all. In Canada all of the soldiers, fortifications, military ships, roads, etc. were paid for by the Crown and taxes were very minimal. The U.S. now had to pay for everything themselves so if they took control of Canada, Canadian taxes would increase significantly.
Charles de Salaberry was descended from a French noble family who had always served in the French army. When Charles was born Canada was now British so he joined the British army serving in the 60th (Royal Americans) Regiment in the west Indies and Europe. In 1810 he was a Lieutenant Colonel as was sent to Canada to raise a regiment in Lower Canada (Quebec). His regiment was called the Voltigeurs who with British regulars and Mohawk warriors turned aside and American invasion down the St Lawrence aimed at taking Montreal. de Salaberry led more Voltiguers, British regulars, and Mohawks at a battle on the Chateauguay River, defeating another American army trying to take Montreal from the south. The British were aided by the fact the two American generals hated each other and made no attempt to coordinate their attacks.
Hi Tyler It's pretty funny to look at your reactions and how amazed you are to discover a part of history that we both share in some ways. As a french canadian from Quebec's province (Quebecer) who just probably just learned as much as you did about this war war watching this video, i'm gonna try to make you maybe understand a bit more this shared part of history. You have to understand that there is two Canada, the french Quebec's one and the rest of Canada (we call it ROC). In Quebec's province we don't consider ourself as Canadian (except during olympics hahaha), if you ask to someone here about his nationality he will spontanously say Quebecer (it sounds Quebecker) and will maybe add to it "well i'm canadian too, but first of all i'm a Quebecer. To give you a deeply idea of how we feel a different nation, we tried, like USA, a revolution war in 1837 but goth crushed by the british troops in a week (3 battles) and we tried it by a political way in 1980 and 1995 by voting about getting our independance (in 1995, 49% voted yes). All of that to tell you that the date we learn in school about where our identity started his 1763 because in our mind, we got conquered and after that, we had to fight to preserve our identity (the British hardly tried to assimilate the french population). By the 1763, the french started to call themself Canadians in opposition to the english one who was the British. I don't know when it happened (probably after all loyalist came here after the american revolution war) but the British living here adopted this name too, so french started to call themself French canadian (we switched to Quebecer name in the 70s after we put in power a party, parti Québécois (Quebecer's party), who promised to try to work for our independance. Ok, a really too long story only to tell you that i now understand when the english canadians started to develop their national identity and it seems that usa helped it hehe. I hope you enjoyed to know a little bit more about your northern neighbor country
Nous avons toujours été 100 ans en avance sur les anglo-canadiens quant à l'identité et 80 ans sur l'hymne national O Canada et 17 ans pour ce qui est d'un drapeau distinctif ( Québec 1948 et Canada 1965) 😉😁😀
Well I live in Ontario and I was very saddened that you wanted to be separate because whether you speak English or French or both, your still a Canadian to me. It’s great to have a distinct culture and we also accept many cultures which is why I love Canada. People are people with some differences but so much in common. That’s diversity and inclusion which is important in our society!
I was born in Quebec during the 60’s when the FLQ were running around shooting at people and blowing things up. I knew people who were fluent in French and were given a hard time by waitstaff when ordering in French, they were told by a waitress who had told another person they didn’t speak English five minutes earlier. I look at it this way the English were kind to let the French stay and keep their language so it doesn’t give you a right to be rude to people who speak English and deny them their rights to their language. The university I went to in Ontario had students come there to improve their English language skills and they voted to stay part of Canada in 95.
I've met and talked to the first person in the video, James Elliott. He wrote an excellent book about the war and the Battle of Stoney Creek, (the site of which is practically on my doorstep) called "Strange Fatality."
In my city, there is rue De Salleberry and rue Châteaugay, Saint Jean sur Richelieu, (the war of 1812 passed through here) The valley of the forts, and the Richelieu river which connect the Saint Lawrence river and Lake Champlain (several forts and vestiges are still present, the Lacolle blockhouse is the one directly linked to the War of 1812)
At the beginning of the video where he suggests that the Americans had to go through Canada to get to the British, it's not that there were Canadians located between the Americans and the British. It's that Canada at that point was not yet an independent country. That didn't happen until the 1867. So what he was suggesting was that because Britain is located across the ocean, the Americans who are at war with Great Britain decided to attack one of their British colonies on the border, which was Canada. Or would go on to become Canada.
The animosity worked both ways as did the raids across the border including the US Civil War, where the British supported the Confederate States mainly just to irritate the Americans. While there were Confederate raids of Vermont launched from Quebec, the Fenians were Irish nationalists based in the USA who raided Canada to destabilize the British. Much of this came to an end when Canada became a country in 1867, recognized just one country in the USA and much better relations were ahead.
This war was a spill over from the Battle of US Independence ... who were British colonies until then and recognized Canadian colonies were profitable for the UK. Interesting fact .. during that War of 1812 Detroit was actually briefly a part of Canada. At the end of the war, they agreed to return the map to its prewar state.
The battle of Chateauguay was significant by the fact that a handful of Canadians, allies (300) and Natives were able to defeat a much bigger and powerfull army of American General Hampton (7000). His army was trying to conquer Montreal, with the help of General Wilkinson.
@@LouismarieBelanger for someone trying to get things strait your comment isn’t factually accurate. The commander of the Canadian militia and aboriginal warriors was a British Army officer. He was indeed a French-Canadian, but technically a British Army officer. That is why I wrote British/Canadian. All Canadian militias were an extension of British forces until the Militia Act of 1868.
@@James-zg2nl Ok then. Besides him no british soldiers. Am I more accurate? He was from where I was born in Beauport five miles east from Québec. When I was young I saw the Manor of Salaberry It doesn't exist anymore.
I grew up in SW Quebec, near the site of the Battle of Chateauguay, part of the war of 1812 -- when the English Canadians, French Canadians and indigenous allies in Canada defeated the Americans. To this day, on a piece of farmland not far from the town of Huntingdon, Quebec, where I grew up, there's a monument to this victory and honouring those who sacrificed to keep the Americans from reaching Montreal, then the capital of Lower/Upper Canada.
Charles-Michel d'Irumberry de Salaberry was a French speaking Canadian officer born 5 miles East of Quebec City in Beauport (where I was born). The Governor Prevost ask him to form an unit of light infantery composed mainly of french speaking canadians. The unit was named ¨Les Voltigeurs Canadiens¨ They were all volunteers. So it was important to french speaking canadians to defend french language and to defend their religion which was roman catholic. They were not giving a darn about english soldiers that's why they fought under the command of a well known french speaking officer. My name is Louis-Marie Bélanger. My family is in Québec since 1634 . We are part of Stem Families of the province of Québec. I hope that you will excuse my English because I don't usuelly use that language and I'm not sorry about it. (referring to the joke about canadians saying ¨sorry¨about anything). It is not my case because I speak French. By the way, I like your sense of humor. From now on I shall follow your presentations. It is quite interresting!
Two major outcomes. The BRitish/Canadians defended well what is now Canada, but they lost their territory on the southern sides of the Great Lakes into Ohio and Michigan. Also, their indian allies were defeated, because they were largely abandoned by the British. This had a huge impact on the United States as it opened up territories between the Appalachians and Missippi River for settlement..
Could you put the links to these videos below? Also the links to your merchandise? I'd like to order more of it. Very happy ewith the Canadian shirts I bought. Enjoy your reactions. You're hilarious!!😄😄😄🙏🏻🙏🏻🇨🇦🇨🇦
On September 14, 1814, U.S. soldiers at Baltimore's Fort McHenry raised a huge American flag to celebrate a crucial victory over British forces during the War of 1812. The sight of those “broad stripes and bright stars” inspired Francis Scott Key to write a song that eventually became the United States national anthem.
It was only the French part who had to make a choice and were between the two powers. They'd already been conquered and assimilated by the British, affording them some concessions in terms of Catholicism, language and customs etc. France had deserted them and after years of sacrifice and potentially having to uproot from other places considered their homes, life was on the up and stable under the British. The rest of Canada was for the most part staunchly British and didn't want a bar of what was going on south of them in terms of the lawlessness of the wild west etc.
We were never assimilated. They tried, but we held to our language and culture with all that we are. And now we have been recognize as our own nation by the Canadian government.
Assimilated in terms of being part of Canada, holding an allegiance to the Crown and respecting the laws of the nation. I didn’t mean give up all sense of identity in terms of French heritage, language and religion, as noted in what I wrote. I meant no disrespect by the term but I do think it was probably a wise choice and I think the deal offered by the British was a better one than that offered by the US.
Canadian here. I remember an assignment in school while studying the American Civil War. We had to write a letter to a relative that was on the “other” side.... and how you would tell them about family etc to try to understand how it affected the families in the US during that time.
Even people in Canada might not know about the war of 1812. I did a project on Laura Secord and my teacher said I couldn't do a history project on a chocolate company!
It's pretty deplorable that your "teacher" didn't know who Laura Secord actually was. She gave intelligence to the British (our side) and was a French Canadian. What a woman. Chocolate company, indeed.
I feel like you didn’t really listen to the last part he said? Canadians saw British solders as their own. So even If It was just British forces, the Canadians would seem them as their own soldiers. British soldiers burnt down the white houses in retaliation for the US trying to invade Canada, however he said since Canadians saw British soldiers as their own, it would be Canadians burnt it down even though it was the British soldiers or both.
To be precise, a flotilla of British Imperial soldiers burned down the White House in retaliation for the sacking and burning of York, Upper Canada (today Toronto). The Fort York arsenal had been rigged with explosives and barricades to direct the explosion though, which felled many of the attackers and ultimately became one of the events that led to the American failure to invade Canada. That being said, indeed, every "Canadian" at the time would have seen themselves fighting the Americans, in association with the forces cooperating with the British Crown. Hence the participation of the First Nations under Tecumseh.
@@K1ddkanuck British soldiers burnt public buildings in Washington according to the then rules of war (private buildings were left alone). One of those building was later white-washed to hide the fire damage and became known as the White House.
@@K1ddkanuck Almost. The sacking and burning of York was resented by the Americans for the loss of a large number of their men when the British powder magazine was blown up to keep it from the hands of the enemy. Among those men was Zebulon Pike, the namesake of Pike's Peak. After the retreat back to Fort George following the failed invasion that was stopped at Stoney Creek, the American forces eventually abandoned the fort and burned the town of Newark (Niagara-on-the-Lake) leaving about 400 residents out in the cold in mid winter. Some historians consider this a major cause of the attack on Washington.
I happen to live in this area.. Sallaberry and Chateauguay... Yes, this part of Québec was actively impacted by the attacks... Near my hometown, there's even a national park with a fort from that period... and also... my great-great- great-whatever-grandfather fought in this war! so that's that...
Why was the War of 1812 fought. Right. Everyone says it was because ships of the Royal Navy would stop American flagged ships and take sailors off it to serve in the British ship/Royal Navy. Primarily they were after British sailors who had in the past, after making port in Halifax, St. John, or any port in the area, buggered off & made their way to the US. Naturally, they found work as seamen on American ships. Unfortunately, it wasn't always British subjects that they pulled from American ships. And Britain needed sailors b'coz she was fighting France. However.... What too many people don't take into account as part of the cause of the war, is that the British army was allied with several indigenous tribes, who resented the westward expansion of US settlers into the Ohio River Valley and beyond. The Brits didn't like it either and so supplied the native warriors with firearms & supplies so they could harass, burn out, settlers & generally impede that westward expansion. The White House. We didn't burn it down, it was made of stone after all, but yeah we burned it. And you guys, in an effort to hide the scorch marks, painted the US Presidential Mansion was white. Ta-daa...lol
@@Leafsdude wrong that didn’t start until 1845. Geez will you Canadians learn something. I’m embarrassed for you guys for being falsely taught this war.
Look up: Manifest Destiny: the sense of entitlement of American settlers that ALL of N America belonged to them. 54 40 or fight: Slogan of American insurgents that they would settle for nothing less than all of N America reaching up to Alaska I see a lot of Americans in the comments trying to differentiate between UK influence in Canada, and "full" independance from Britain. Canadian response: bite me! We consider ourselves Canadian since the 1500s.
Fun fact, Louisiana's history is closely tied to Canada's. In the 17th century, Louisiana was colonized by French Canadians in the name of the King of France. In the years that followed, additional waves of settlers came from French Canada to Louisiana, notably the Acadians, after their deportation by British troops in 1755. Bâton-Rouge, capitol of Louisiana literally translates to 'Red-Stick.' 🐾
Charles De Salisbury was a Canadian officer that led a Canadian regiment to a victory defending Chateugay in a battle. There is alot to this story but hope this helps get you started.
He commanded a battalion as a Lieutenant-Colonel. Regiments are commanded by full Colonels, a rank De Salaberry never achieved. He did command a forced large enough to be considered a full brigade at one battle though, but never a regiment.
Both sides of my ancestors were involved in 1812 war rumour I have is my ancestor was caught and was told to leave America. Or that he was on trial and was acquitted because he was American and a loyalist and fled to Canada more loyal to the crown ( freedom)
That is only accurate in regards to the first half of the war. The US soundly beat our aboriginal allies at the Battle of the Thames in 1813. From that point forward they played no more significant role in the war leaving the second half of the war to be fought by the British Regulars & Canadian militias, which is why the Treaty of Ghent ignores the interests of the aboriginal tribes allied to the British. The tribes allied to the British were forced to sign their own peace terms with the US more than a year before the final peace talks began.
@@Momcat_maggiefelinefan fair enough. The CBC is not known for its journalistic integrity. That being said, in the year 2000 the CBC did produce a great series of about 12 hours long covering Canadian history from pre-colonial times to the end of the Cold War. It’s simply called Canada: A People’s History. Strongly recommended it if you can stomach 12 hours of Canadian history lol. Since then the CBC has really gone off the rails of integrity and quality documentaries.
I like your curiosity and your closing comments, it just confirms what America has done and is doing and will continue to do. As a Canadian, I hope there's a lot more Americans like you than we are meant to believe,. Under the current state of affairs.🙂. Keep up the good work.
Tyler, here is some clarification on the Battle of Châteauguay - The Battle of Châteauguay, in the War of 1812, took place on 26 October 1813. Canadian troops, under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Charles-Michel de Salaberry, defeated a larger American force. Châteauguay is an off-island suburb of Montreal, in southwestern Quebec, about 30 km upstream from the city.
The Canadian perspective of the War of 1812? I think they mean for the commoners who had no idea of events which led up to the war. For starters, The British took over an American fort in the beginning of the war. Then...American troops advanced into British Canada and retreated.
The British (and their Indigenous allies) took over Fort Detroit at the 'beginning of the war' because it was the base America used to launch its initial incursion into Canada at Sandwich. Taking Fort Detroit was the counter attack to the invasion of Sandwich.
Somewhat related, a lot of reactors learning about Canada love the video "Canadians Change when the hear the word "War"". It's a video that cracks a lot of people up and I think you'd enjoy it. You'd learn a lot too, so it would be fun.
As an American I am sure you have heard of the "Continental Congress", Continental Army", "Manifest Destiny", and " 54-40 or Fight". Even the earliest of American governments & politicians had designs on controlling all of North America. In the early 1800's Great Britain was coping with Napoleon and tried to restrict all shipping to and from France. This led to conflict with the recently created USA who wanted free access to Europe. The USA declared war vs. G.B. As the USA could not attack G.B. directly they decided to attack the British colonies to the north. In the minds of Americans, it would be a simple case of just marching into the colonies and taking control. Not so. The relatively small number of British troops , along with local militias and help from Indigenous fighters were successful in repelling the numerous attacks from much larger armies from south of the border. (By the way - the attack on Washington by British troops was in retaliation for a previous attack by the Americans against York (now Toronto).) The War of 1812 was not the last time that the USA tried to expand north. The American and several state governments turned a blind eye when the Fenians made their pathetic forays into the colonies.
Hi Tyler I think you would find Camp X very intresting. It was a Camp in world War 2 in Canada where spies were trained. The creature of the Camp was a famous yet little known hero who helped to later train Bill Donavan who created the OSS that became the CIA. Supposedly Ian Fleming trained there and based James Bond on this man . The man's name is William Stephenson
The American's argument was they were liberating Canada from Great Britain, which Canada kinda was fine still being with Great Britain, but also America saw Canada as their birthright seeing they were on the Manifest Destiny track and they claimed Canada was part of their Independence agreement.
Tecumseh was a pivotal player in the war of 1812, according to my late foster dad. Laura Secord was the one who raised the alarm, she was to that point a 🇺🇸.
The British in England brought that was upon themselves. Three of the primary reasons: embargoes on American shipping, press-ganging American sailors, and giving arms and aid to western native populations in conflict with Americans. We were caught in the middle, as the man says, obliged to fight for the British as a colony of theirs and having their troops on our land and their ships in our waters. We did, however, capture the state of Maine, which was subsequently ransomed. The Canadians used the funds to build Dalhousie University. Also interesting to note, it was one of several attempts the Americans made on us. In fairness, we came up with Defence Scheme #1 in 1921, targeting a number of American cities in a plan for the Canadian invasion of the U.S. The Americans had War Plan Red in 1935 and actually massed 45 thousand troops close to the border near St. Catherines in an ill-disguised series of "war games". That plan failed because it was accidentally disclosed by someone in the U.S. government. The plan itself remained in the Pentagon until declassified in 1974. It is very important to remember that these last two operations occurred when Canada was an independent nation; so the myth of 'friendship' between the two countries is just that, a myth.
We also now have huge quilts standing in areas that were part of the fighting. The natives helped us a lot to fight the Americans. They knew the country well and were able to help in the fight.
@6:43 America's motivation was to limit Canada's aid to England. As you previously mentioned Canada is a vast forested area, America was at war with Great Britain and Canada was providing large amounts of lumber for shipbuilding and masts to Britain's navy. If they could take it over, they could use Canada's natural resources for themselves instead of allowing it to continue to flow to their enemy. Canada was still a Colony not it's own country at this point in history, we were essentially "owned" by England and so therefore a fair target @9:56 Sort of but not really, as a colony Canada would have a limited number of British regulars for defense and bureaucracy but the vast majority was militias @16:14 yes we set fire to the whitehouse, that's why it is now called the whitehouse...because they had to whitewash the stone pillars to hide the char marks
Your first point is not wrong, but it was a secondary motive for the US to invade the Canadas. You missed the primary motives for some reason. Calling the Canadian militia as being the “vast majority” of the British force is not accurate. All naval forces were British, none were Canadian, and roughly 40% of the land forces were Canadian militia that actually deployed to fight. Some additional 40,000 British troops were deployed in reserves to launch a full scale invasion of the US if the peace talks failed in late 1814. Without them threatening to invade the war likely would have continued into 1815. Your last point is a pure myth. Not much truth in it. It is true the Executive Mansion (what is was called back then) was white washed to cover the burn marks over the mansion. However, the name White House did not come up be until Theadore Roosevelt’s presidency over 8 decades later. The Excessive Mansion was sometimes nicknamed as the ‘white house’ but some sources for the nickname use predate the British raid on Washington in 1814. So either way the myth is BS.
There's a great story about the first lady during this time. She was having a dinner party that night when they found out the the Canadians were coming. She didn't have much time, but she knew what to save and that was the portrait of George Washington. Unfortunately, the Canadians were starving and therefore ate the food, stole all the wine and other supplies in the white house, which if I'm correct, was red brick, and then drank and ate and had one of the best times (being full and drunk...a very Canadian thing) all the way home. But still I think she was great!
A small fact also not very well know it that for a great part the 1812-1814 war was mostly decided at the battle of Plattsburgh and by a naval victory of the Master Commandant Thomas Macdonough. Is victory on the lake Champlain, and without that victory on the lake Prévost will have easily take Plattsburgh with the 16000 veteran troops under is command and will have almost no opposition to reach New York and cutting the state in 2. By loosing the lake and do not forget in those years no road so the supply where transport by waterways so the control of the lake was a crucial. Here a good link about it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plattsburgh
Canada did win the war of 1812 because Canada still exists. I have forebearers who were United Empire Loyalists as well as those who fought on the side of the US so my roots are firmly entrenched in both countries histories. I've lived in Canada all my life but have paternal ancestors that lived in the US in the 1700s, fought for both sides in the revolution as well as 1812 and my Canadian father served in the US army.
no Canada didnt win Canada wasnt even a country at the time, it was a war between the US and the UK, and the US achieved several of its objectives in that war and when the British tried to invade the US and tried to make the US cede territory to the UK the British failed in that objective as well
😂 Nonsense!… Canada couldn’t fight its way out of a wet paper bag!… It was your colonial master Britain vs a very young USA that just kicked out your Brits just 36 years ago!… The USA had the upper hand over your colonial master Britain but the war ended up in a stalemate but set the course for the next 100 years or so!… Britain realized that the U.S. was a up and coming power and that momentum cannot be stopped!… It never messed with the mighty USA again and ended up being America’s little lapdog!
@@somebodykares1 if "Canadians" were fighting the war even though they werent even independent then Americans won against the Dutch during the Conquest of New Netherland in 1664, the Americans won against the French during the Queen Annes war in 1713, the Americans won against the French again in the Father Le Loutre's War in 1755, and the Americans won against the French again in the 7 years war in 1763 since Americans took part and won all of them even though we werent independent, and then the Americans also won a war against the Canadians during the Northwest Indian war in 1795, 1534? i looked it up directly and it said the French settled in Canada in 1604, while the first time the English settled in the American lands it was 1584 at Roanoke modern day North Carolina, the Canadians being British in the war of 1812 is not the same as the Americans in the revolutionary war, the Americans were already independent in 1776 and the war ended in 1783, so it was not British vs British it was independent Americans winning the war against the British empire, Canada wasnt even independent during the war of 1812 thats why its universally recognized that the united states started in 1776 and that we have 246 years of history, while Canada only became independent way later until 1867 and even still wasnt fully independent, you still remained as British subjects until 1982, and even AFTER 1982 that Queen is still head of the Canadian monarchy, imagine letting British people be your colonial masters for so long, thats embarrassing
I am from Maryland site of the battles of North Point and Baltimore during the war. We might have learned a teensy bit more than the rest of the country but not all that much.
Tyler, you can't watch a RUclips video of a subject such as the War of 1812, especially one that is as biased as this one, and think you know the whole story. The war was very complicated, and the U.S. declared war against Britian due to severe trade restrictions levied against American shipping and the impressment of American sailors into the British Navy. The British were bankrupting our fledgling economy. And the United States government reluctantly declared war to right those British wrongs. Do your homework and learn the whole story from both sides. There was also a Canadian Revolutionary War against Britian and the restrictions against Upper and Lower Canada for reasons similar to our Revolutionary War.
There were several rebellions in different parts of Canada but they were not ever referred to or seen as a 'Revolutionary War' in Canada. The war hawks in Congress did have several 'reasons' for the invasion, but they were a little bit bullshit with a sprinkling of truth. They wanted to take the territory from Britain and they thought they would be welcomed as liberators and they were mistaken. Famously, one Congressman said "Taking Canada will be a mere matter of marching" and then they got here and there was resistance they weren't expecting.
War of 1812 Definitely won - Canada prevented invasion Definitely lost - Native American tribes on both sides. Probably won - UK achieved it's main war aims, (which were to get out of this annoying war) but had some embarrassing defeats Probably lost - USA. Failed to achieve its war goals (apart from goals that would have been achieved if it had done nothing) some embarrassing defeats but also some important victories.
The Americans did achieve with the help of France lifting the naval blockade the British had on the Americans. This is the thing that American historians and educators give for their reason why the Yanks won. It bs. But both our countries like to revise history.
@@davidedwards3838 I'm not sure what you are talking about. The only blockade before the war of 1812 was of Europe (which was one of the things which annoyed the Americans). At the end of the war of 1812 the American coast was almost completely blockaded and the French were in no position to help anyone. Having been defeated It's true that the blockade of Europe ended but that was because Napoleon surrendered. And this removed most of the Americans complaints
@@scollyb the USA archive all of its objectives end of impressment defeat of the natives. British failure in taking land in the USA a Indian buffer state, Maine (which the British occupied east port Maine until 1818) and Minnesota to control the upper Mississippi. But Napoleon came back in 1815 the British government gave orders not to impress any Americans may I request the book by historian Donald Hickey “don’t give up the ship the myths of the war of 1812”
@@TheIceman567 The UK had no interest in taking any US territory, it drop its demand for a native buffer zone, as the US dropped demands to promise not to impress sailors. There was no naval war in 1815, it only lasted 100 days and was entirely on land So Americas achievement was "making" the UK do what it had no interest in doing If the US hadn't declared war the situation in 1815 would have been exactly the same.
@@scollyb incorrect, Britain made these demands and only dropped them after the American victories and of Plattsburgh and Baltimore happened. There was a naval war look up the Invasion of Guadeloupe in 1815. Yes the USA declared war, the British admiralty gave orders not to stop or harass American shipping during the 100 days. The British gave up support for the natives leading to westward expansion and war in amen seriously in the global Stage.
The story continues with Sir John A McDonald who became the first prime minister of Canada. He was instrumental in the building of Canada promising a continental Railroad from sea to sea. Gordon Lightfoot's "the great Canadian Railroad Trilogy " tells the story very powerfully. Sir John's motivation was to keep Canada from becoming American. We aren't allowed to celebrate him anymore because he, like every other European Christian at that time was terribly racist. We have come a long way.
In 1812 we weren’t even Canada yet. A lot of the population that would settle in Canada hadn’t even come over yet from Britain, Europe and the rest of the world. We officially formed a government, as you know, in 1867.
After the American Revolution, thousands of people living in the new USA and who wanted to remain loyal to Britain, fled across the border. They were United Empire Loyalists and they mostly settled in Southern Ontario.
windsor area and in Amherstburg chef Tecumseh native helped huge to invade Detroit we were out numbered and won. people of detroit thought we had more men fighting instead was the natives making lots of noise
you should have heard of Tecumseh at 14:25 there is a Tecumseh curse that in 1840/1860/1880/1900/1920/1940/1960 every president elected in those years died in office in 1980 was almost added to the list Tecumseh died in the war of 1812 on Oct.5 1813
You might also want to lookup the sea shanty called "Captain Barrett's Privateers". It is still sung and known by most of the Canadian military, and most Canadians in the maritimes. After the US won independence, the British Crown employed privateers out of Sherbrooke, QC, to raid American merchant ships and harass their fledgling navy. "Oh the year was 1778, I wish I was in Sherbrooke now..."
Before July 1st 1867, officially, there was no Canada. Before that, we (yes I'm Canadian) were British colonies (and even before that some of us were French colonies). So the war of 1812, could not (technically) be between the U.S. and Canada has Canada wasn't a country yet. During the war of 1812, we were known as the North American British colonies, among witch Upper Canada (today's Ontario) and Lower canada (today's Québec) (and others). Here is a nice little video explaining more of the war of 1812; ruclips.net/video/TyY0sDvoi9c/видео.html
There was also a population of escaped slaves that were living in Canada as free men. They volunteered to fight the Americans to protect themselves from being recaptured back into slavery.
Lieutenant Colonel Charles-Michel d'Irumberry de Salaberry was a French-Canadian nobleman with a family tradition of French military service to live up to. When Quebec became a British colony, he carried on the tradition anyway under the British. Interesting man. He commanded Canadian militia and First Nation forces in the Battle of the Chateauguay, defeating a larger American army. Unlike some of the other battles in this war, this one was commanded and fought without the help of British regular soldiers. By the way, some of the militias of that time survive as regiments in the Canadian Army Reserve.
Quebecer Charles-Michel de Salaberry created a regiment of Quebec volunteers. He was victorious at the Battle of Châteauguay with a distinctive regiment that he had raised himself (the Voltigeurs), he quickly became a hero for his decisive battles won during the War of 1812 and will be the most respected Quebec soldier of his time. The regiment had 400 men and managed to deceive the American army which included 3000 soldiers.
As a French Canadian... Assimilation policies did exist. To this day... we managed to preserve our language and our culture. For how much longer, I don't know. 9 Million people Sorrounded by 500 000 000 people speaking English.... If the US would have been successful in 1812 and been able to take Lower Canada... I believe we would of become another Louisiana. French history through architecture, family names and that's it.
"The acquisition of Canada this year, as far as the neighborhood of Quebec, will be a mere matter of marching...." - Thomas Jefferson, 1814. The hubris ran thick with the war-hawks in congress. They were soon to realize that poorly trained militia troops had little appetite for wars outside their own state, and were not much of a match versus professional British soldiers and motivated Canadian militia and First Nations warriors. Multiple attempts to invade Canada were hands down the worst thing Americans who wanted Canada in the Union could have done. All it really accomplished was to galvanize Canadians.
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It's "Charles de Salaberry" and the "Battle of Châteauguay" which are French Canadian icons.
"Salivary street" and "Shadow gate" 🤣
What were their roles in the war of 1812?
@@darlenefraser3022 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Chateauguay
@@shwa87 Oooooo! Nice to know. This is a chunk of that part of history I was unaware of. Thank you!
@@shwa87 gotta love the shit subs huh? XD
A few other things worth looking into:
1. Vimy Ridge - The WW1 battle often considered to be the birth of the Canadian identity.
2. The connection between Acadian (French Canadian group expelled by the British) and the Louisiana Cajun culture.
Good call.
It’s important to remember that after the British conquest of New France was completed after the Seven Years War, the British implemented the Quebec Act. The Quebec Act did many things to tick off the American colonists, but some things that were “intolerable” to them were the protection of the French language, the protection of Catholicism, and the protection of the French Civil Code in place of English Common Law. Even by 1812 the vast majority of what would become Canada was French speaking and Catholic, although the Americans centred their invasions on Protestant/English Lower Canada (Southern Ontario). The Royal Proclamation of 1763 goes a long way to explaining why Indigenous peoples also supported the British Crown. So the war of 1812 united a diverse group who were afraid of having their freedoms taken away by the US government.
Correction: "Lower Canada" is Quebec, Southern Ontario is "Upper Canada".
I would ad that even english subjets established in Québec and else where didn't like it too. The only fact that we still exist is a nightmare for a lot of "canadians."
Canada didn't form a government until 1868
The line: “And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.” Was British/Canadian rockets falling during the "Battle for Fort McHenry" in 1814.
*Canada salutes*
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Indeed. "And the White house Burned burned burned, but the Americans won't admit it...."
What about Fort Detroit? Where 2000 American regulars surrendered to 800 Canadian Militia and 400 Native troops? British ships shelled Ft Detroit for a few hours inflicting 15 injuries and killed. And the Americans surrendered. In 1812 Madison was mad he was the president you know. Well he THOUGHT he'd tell the British where they ought to go. He THOUGHT he'd invade Canada. He thought that he was tough.... instead we went to Washington...... and bund burned down all his shit. And the white house burned burned burned 🔥👌😬
@@ashbradford Love that song. It's so catchy.
Your honesty and humility’s in approaching these topics is inspiring. Thank you for taking the time to expand your horizons. We should all be so bold. Thank you.
If you are seriously interested in this part of history, Pierre Berton wrote a two volume set called The Invasion of Canada and Flames Across The Border. It gets seriously into the reasons for the war, the alliance of Indigenous people fighting on the Canadian side, specific battles and the politics of it all. Berton writes history like you have never read it before and you can see yourself standing on the battlefield with a musket in your hand. Every question you pose here has an answer more complex and detailed than you will ever get from a video.
My favorite books, I have read them both... and reread them about every 5 years or so... last time was about 2 months ago
Indigenous peoples were in favour of the British concept of multiple kingdoms under one crown.. and opposed to the American system that didn’t recognize them as human
Thanks for the recommendation, I think I'll try to find these books. My knowledge of this part of Canadian history isn't great. I was in French immersion at the time and was having comprehension issues, and history class was taught in French. So a lot of it didn't sink in properly. That was grade 7 and 8, and by grade 9, I had switched to an English high school, but we'd moved on to WWI etc.
I miss Pierre Berton. He was the best journalist and interviewer. He was a true gentleman. My cousins use to live right down the road from him. We always tried to meet him but he was never around.
Yes, read Pierre Berton for Canadian history.
So there is a larger version of this film that is roughly 2 hours longs and will give you more of an overall history of the war. As I side note I am a Canadian that happens to be an 1812 reenactor and our group portrays a British regiment that participated in the war during its latter half. There were some of us that actually were placed in the full feature as extras.
You ever get tired of Americans telling us we have no true history? Every video that forefronts Canada, I always seem to find the Americans that are like "Canada never existed then" like a) it did we were Upper and Lower Canada, but also b) we don't care we consider it our history anyways :|
That’s cool!
My favourite battle that I was taught about was when we didn’t have nearly enough soldiers to take a heavy fortified American fort we just lined up our troops and ran them in a line past the fort, circling around a bunch of trees sprinting to the back of the line to make it look like we had tons of soldiers. And it worked
You are probably thinking of the Battle of Fort Detroit which is one of my favourites and an incredible fascinating battle. If I remember correctly it was also the only time Brock and Tecumseh met and fought together
You’re mostly correct with your facts. Brock had his Canadian militia dawn British Regular’s surplus uniforms to look more professional and capable of a long siege, and it was the aboriginal warriors who attached themselves to Brock’s forces who paraded themselves on rotation to appear much larger than was in reality. The British troops & Canadian militia did not parade themselves as you described, only the aboriginal warriors did.
Lacking the numbers against the larger USA, Canadian with help of Canadian natives used many ingenious tactics to force the Americans out of Canadian territory. It gave the diverse Canadian population a reason to unite, the Canadian population increased and once trade between US and Canada returned to normal both countries prospered and grew their economies.
And look how the First Nations people were thanked for helping them out.
@@ravenhunter451 yep, so sad and not much better today. 👎
Didn’t one person get a bunch of first nations to constantly run in a circle around a base in the trees causing them to think there were ten times more and surrender
The sad thing though is what our ancestors did to the indigenous people! It was horrifically wrong.
Thats largely true, but since we're talking 1812, you should replace Canadian by British (or at least by British colony of Canada).
You should check out what may be the most Canadian of wars.... our 44 year "Whisky War" with Denmark which was only just resolved this year.
As an Australian, I found this fascinating.
As a Canadian, it makes me happy to know others find our history fascinating. We learnt about the war in elementary school. It went over my head then, but now it’s fascinating
The major battle for Canadians was the Battle of Queenston Heights where American forces were driven back across the Niagara River by the Canadian militia and about 80 Mohawks under the command of John Brant and John Norton (half Cherokee).
And 80% of the land promised to the Mohawks and 90% of the money was stolen by the government in “good interests” of the Mohawk people
I live within an hour of most of the major battles on Canadian soil, in that war.
Queenston Heights was the major battle in Ontario, but tit was the Battle of Chateaugay which prevented the invasion of Montréal.
My favourite battle is Stoney creek, where 700 Brits and Canadians drove 3500 Americans off the field of battle at bayonet point!
I literally just drove through queenston heights. Looked up at sir issac brocks monument.
Hi Tyler, I'm a french canadian from Montréal. Lived here all my life, and I'm learning a lot about Canada from your videos. They are fun and very educative. Thank you! You're reacting to Canadian things is a great idea. And I think we will shortly want to adopt you.
It's already done.
The main street in my town is Tecumseh. The war of 1812.pretty big around here. Across from Detroit. A big rabbit hole of history just in this little place on earth. Slight of hand won this area for Canada. Look it up
And Laura Secord played a big role as small as it was it was incredibly important
Hi Tyler, not Salivary but Salaberry:
Lieutenant Colonel Charles-Michel d'Irumberry de Salaberry, CB (November 19, 1778 - February 27, 1829) was a Canadian military officer and statesman of the seigneurial class who served in various campaigns for the British Army. He won distinction for repelling the American advance on Montreal during the War of 1812.
My area was known for the Battle of the Thames and the assistance they got from Chief Tecumseh. There is a memorial site to Tecumseh a parkway and a school that bears his name.
War of 1812: June 1812 - January 1815. This video skimmed only a tiny bit off the top! There is so much more!
For instance, the 1st ever combined US Navy/US Army beach landing was on April 27th, 1813, at York (now Toronto). A British company of the 8th Regiment of Foot were defending the beach and were outnumbered when the first US wave landed - there were three more waves. This company of the 8th suffered over 60% casualties. Then the US Army spent three days burning and pillaging York (Toronto) before moving on to Niagara-on-the-Lake.
Over the 3.5 years three major USA invasions occurred on the Niagara frontier and each was eventually repelled by British regulars (two "British" regular regiments were raised in Canada) and several Canadian militia regiments. De Salaberry was the commander of the Lower Canada (Quebec) Militia Regiment that at Chateauguay with a force of 400 repelled an American force of over 4000.
The British in 1814 sailed from Europe with a fleet and army freed from their task of defeating Napolean to attack Washington, Baltimore ("The Star-Spangled Banner") and later Mobile, New Orleans and Mobile again. No Canadians were involved. Instead, the Canadian Militia and especially the Incorporated Militia of Upper Canada (IMUC) Regiment was busy defending the Niagara Peninsula (see Battle of Lundy's Lane - July 25th, 1814)
Summer 1814 the British have finally defeated Napolean and their entire fleet and massive European army is now freed to sail to North America and finally end the war they never wanted. That summer the largest battleship in the entire Royal Navy Fleet (worldwide) is launched at the shipyard in Kingston, Upper Canada (Ontario). She is the HMS St Lawrence, and she had three gun-decks with a total fire power of 102 guns. This one vessel had the firepower of the entire US Navy fleet of Lake Ontario and the British were building two more just like her...Peace talks ensued.
I could go on, and on, and on....
I love, that we as Canadians, have so much to share and add to history. . . especially with our American neighbours.
Its just sad many of our American Neighbours are arrogant, they like to point out "Oh well you were still a British Colony so we technically were fighting the British not Canadians" and then they also go on to say "Canada stayed a part of The United Kingdom until 1982, which is super embarrassing thing being controlled by them for so long".
Like does it look like we are bothered about those facts? Its part of our History its part of who we are and our culture so no, we are not embarrassed about that, only thing we are embarrassed and regret is the unforgivable things we've done to the First Nations, which we do want to mend those friendships back stronger with the First Nations.
Plus also its Canadian History, Canadians write and determine Canadian History, Americans don't write Canadian History.
This same dumb thing happened when Canada was announced as a playable Civ in Civilization VI.
@@somebodykares1 Agreed. Americans are not even able to write their own. So americans don't know that there's been a war in 1812.
and those who know are talking about a draw. False, americans were kick out of Canada. They started the war not us.
@@LouismarieBelanger Canada successfully defended, American successfully failed to annex. Those were the goals, but people claim a win is only when land is claimed, while extra land is a bonus, not all wars have ended with that much land changed besides the big wars.
One thing many people don't realize is how involved the U.K.'s army still is in Canada. They are consistently stationed here for training that just isn't otherwise available to them back home.
Canada has plenty of land and up North, cold areas for the UK 🇬🇧 soldiers to train in. Types of land the UK does not have easy access to.
Green mountains soldiers are training in Valcartier base Quebec. It doesn't mean that we are ruled by U.S.A.
they are not stationed here. They are training here and then go back to GB.
Lieutenant Colonel Charles-Michel d'Irumberry de Salaberry, CB (19 November 1778 - 27 February 1829) was a Canadian military officer and statesman of the seigneurial class who served in various campaigns for the British Army.
Another great video. I like how you take the viewer through these topics - good commentary and interesting. Have to admit I snorted my coffee when you were trying to search for Salaberry and Chateauguay - french of course!
I just found your channel and I am really enjoying watching you learn about the history of Canada. As a Canadian living in the US for over 30 years, and having raised 2 American children going through the US school system, I have been amazed that so little is taught to Americans about Canada. Canadian schools do teach American history and culture, probably because it is so dominating to our own culture. It is often said that the definition of a Canadian identity is "I am NOT American!"
When my sons were in elementary school and studied the War of 1812 history, there was only a two sentence paragraph in their text book. It said there was a war between Great Britain and the US. And that it ended in a draw when the US troops "decided to withdraw" from the territory it had captured in Canada! I took a picture of the paragraph and shared it with many of my friends and family back in Canada! I have an undergraduate degree in British North American history, and could not believe that this is what they were teaching my children about the War of 1812!
In 2012 Canada commemorated the bicentennial anniversary of the War with commemorative stamps and coins depicting the pivotal events and figures. Lots of events were held nationwide featuring the victory over the US. Did you hear even one word about the 200th anniversary of the War here in the US? I didn't.
Because the war did end in a draw, what they teach in Canada is a joke especially about the myths of the war (Brock was killed at Queenston failing to retake the heights it was the Mohawks that saved the day or Tecumseh who was killed at the Themes but yet is still seen as a hero even tho it ended the native confederacy) and leave out the causes like impressment and natives supported by British attacking settlers. There was in the US at Baltimore fleet week ect ect there is even a video of Obama speaking at Baltimore on RUclips. Plus we have more history in the US where we don’t sit around one war unlike Canada that had no affect on statehood. If anything Canada should be looking more at the rebellions of 1837-38 and the Fenian raids which lead to confederation.
American history tells heavily about the honourable struggles of the USA. Casting themselves as "the bad guys" doesn't fit with American culture. As Tyler said they were a legitimate threat to Canadian culture and identity. Canada fought for its survival as a nation. Today both Canada and the US support Ukraine. There's no way the Americans are ready (210 years later) to come to grips with the time they acted like Russia is acting right now.
@@trudycolborne2371 Actually it didn’t. The British were in fact attacking American shipping and supporting native attacks against the USA. In fact the only ones that have the myths are Canada since the war had nothing to do with annexing Canada since the USA voted against it before even attacking. Also the British/Canadian side attacked first 🤷♂️ if anything the USA was Ukraine.
@@TheIceman567 The British imposed trade embargoes (economic sanctions) on the USA. The British didn't try to seize American territory during the war. The US declared the war of 1812. We could argue all day, as historians have, about how much of the cause was about Martitime shipping and how much was expansionism. Saying the US was Ukraine is like Russia claiming they are really the ones who were attacked and threatened and so they had no choice but to roll tanks in to Ukraine. That's exactly what the propagandists say to protect the Russian image. What do you have to say about December 1813 when the Americans burned the village of Newark, leaving the civilians without shelter in the Canadian winter? Were they hiding a chemical weapons lab there, Putin?
@@trudycolborne2371 Wrong they did, an Indian buffer state, Maine ( which they occupied East Port, Maine until 1818) and Minnesota to control the upper Mississippi. But yet they were attacked the British were doing what the Russians were doing arming and supplying weapons to a group that was fighting the owners on the land next to impressment not just the trade blockade. What do I say about Newark? I see it as revenge since the British started it at Frenchtown, Michigan Territory and Hampton Roads and Georgetown, Virginia in June 1813🤷♂️ were the citizen there doing that especially Frenchtown was in January of 1813. Do yourself a favor and study the actual facts of the war and not the myths you taught on Canadian schools.
Also, the war started With the capture on the Detroit River of the American merchant schooner Cuyahoga Packet by several members of Canadian Provincial Marine in a rowboat. The American vessel contained official documents with information valuable to the British belonging to Brigadier General William Hull. Hull was unaware that war had been declared when he dispatched the schooner.
Your own late Canadian historian Pierre Berton’s knowledge, remember that the next time you hear your countrymen claim that the US declared war simply to “steal” Canada. In Berton’s book “Flames Over the Border” he made it very clear that annexing Canada was NOT the chief war goal of the US. He even stated that Britain treated the US as if it was still a colony. His words, not mine.
Aside from that, when you read his books, you feel as if you are in the story feeling the wind and the frost. Amazing writer.
what's amazing to me as a Canadian is how differently this war is taught in Canada vs the US. Great reaction! Please follow this up with "Tom Brokaw Explains Canada To Americans" which ties the war of 1812 to today
“The acquisition of Canada this year, as far as the neighborhood of Quebec, will be a mere matter of marching; & will give us experience for the attack of Halifax the next, & the final expulsion of England from the American continent.”
Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 4 August 1812
We burned the white house down in retaliation for America burning the city of York (Modern day Toronto)
That Tom Brokaw video is old, and Canada is far more engaged in snide virtue signals today. It has an inferiority complex that's expressed in a weird sort of superiority complex.
@@SilvanaDil The Tom Brokaw video is from 2010 and still relevant today.
@@CalixYukon Jefferson was laughably wrong on that one, eh.
You could also look into the Canada "Heritage Minutes" that are one minute history ads/commercials that touch on many events even some (2?) about the war of 1812.
There wasn't exactly a UK back then, but Canada was British Territory. We're still Commonwealth members. So... "Sod off Yanks!" 🤣
Charles de Salaberry - Wikipedia if you want to learn about "that guy".
😂 well said 🇨🇦 from 🇬🇧
In the book "Flames Across the Border" by Pierre Berton, he points out that many of the new settlers in what is now Niagara came there from the States for land grants and were not really political at all. In Canada all of the soldiers, fortifications, military ships, roads, etc. were paid for by the Crown and taxes were very minimal. The U.S. now had to pay for everything themselves so if they took control of Canada, Canadian taxes would increase significantly.
I'm from Salaberry-de-Valleyfield which was named after him. We still have a fort nearby in Côteau-du-lac from 1812.
He was never a full Colonel. Only a battalion commander as a Lieutenant-Colonel.
thank you for learning about Canadian culture
Charles de Salaberry was descended from a French noble family who had always served in the French army. When Charles was born Canada was now British so he joined the British army serving in the 60th (Royal Americans) Regiment in the west Indies and Europe. In 1810 he was a Lieutenant Colonel as was sent to Canada to raise a regiment in Lower Canada (Quebec). His regiment was called the Voltigeurs who with British regulars and Mohawk warriors turned aside and American invasion down the St Lawrence aimed at taking Montreal. de Salaberry led more Voltiguers, British regulars, and Mohawks at a battle on the Chateauguay River, defeating another American army trying to take Montreal from the south. The British were aided by the fact the two American generals hated each other and made no attempt to coordinate their attacks.
Hi Tyler
It's pretty funny to look at your reactions and how amazed you are to discover a part of history that we both share in some ways.
As a french canadian from Quebec's province (Quebecer) who just probably just learned as much as you did about this war war watching this video, i'm gonna try to make you maybe understand a bit more this shared part of history.
You have to understand that there is two Canada, the french Quebec's one and the rest of Canada (we call it ROC). In Quebec's province we don't consider ourself as Canadian (except during olympics hahaha), if you ask to someone here about his nationality he will spontanously say Quebecer (it sounds Quebecker) and will maybe add to it "well i'm canadian too, but first of all i'm a Quebecer. To give you a deeply idea of how we feel a different nation, we tried, like USA, a revolution war in 1837 but goth crushed by the british troops in a week (3 battles) and we tried it by a political way in 1980 and 1995 by voting about getting our independance (in 1995, 49% voted yes).
All of that to tell you that the date we learn in school about where our identity started his 1763 because in our mind, we got conquered and after that, we had to fight to preserve our identity (the British hardly tried to assimilate the french population). By the 1763, the french started to call themself Canadians in opposition to the english one who was the British. I don't know when it happened (probably after all loyalist came here after the american revolution war) but the British living here adopted this name too, so french started to call themself French canadian (we switched to Quebecer name in the 70s after we put in power a party, parti Québécois (Quebecer's party), who promised to try to work for our independance.
Ok, a really too long story only to tell you that i now understand when the english canadians started to develop their national identity and it seems that usa helped it hehe.
I hope you enjoyed to know a little bit more about your northern neighbor country
Nous avons toujours été 100 ans en avance sur les anglo-canadiens quant à l'identité et 80 ans sur l'hymne national O Canada et 17 ans pour ce qui est d'un drapeau distinctif ( Québec 1948 et Canada 1965) 😉😁😀
Bonjour a vous deux a partir de Winnipeg.
I was watching Pawn Stars and he was talking about the war but he said USA won. Haha. I had a good laugh and realized he doesn’t know everything.
Well I live in Ontario and I was very saddened that you wanted to be separate because whether you speak English or French or both, your still a Canadian to me. It’s great to have a distinct culture and we also accept many cultures which is why I love Canada. People are people with some differences but so much in common. That’s diversity and inclusion which is important in our society!
I was born in Quebec during the 60’s when the FLQ were running around shooting at people and blowing things up. I knew people who were fluent in French and were given a hard time by waitstaff when ordering in French, they were told by a waitress who had told another person they didn’t speak English five minutes earlier.
I look at it this way the English were kind to let the French stay and keep their language so it doesn’t give you a right to be rude to people who speak English and deny them their rights to their language.
The university I went to in Ontario had students come there to improve their English language skills and they voted to stay part of Canada in 95.
Fort Malden in Amherstbug near me was a big part of that.
I've met and talked to the first person in the video, James Elliott. He wrote an excellent book about the war and the Battle of Stoney Creek, (the site of which is practically on my doorstep) called "Strange Fatality."
In my city, there is rue De Salleberry and rue Châteaugay, Saint Jean sur Richelieu, (the war of 1812 passed through here) The valley of the forts, and the Richelieu river which connect the Saint Lawrence river and Lake Champlain (several forts and vestiges are still present, the Lacolle blockhouse is the one directly linked to the War of 1812)
You should check out “Canada heritage minutes” you will eat it up and so will your viewers
if you are near Niagara Falls sometime check out the Brock Tower at Queenston heights
True Canadians are the Indian Canadians many respects from the 🇬🇧
True Canadians are people born in Canada.
At the beginning of the video where he suggests that the Americans had to go through Canada to get to the British, it's not that there were Canadians located between the Americans and the British. It's that Canada at that point was not yet an independent country. That didn't happen until the 1867. So what he was suggesting was that because Britain is located across the ocean, the Americans who are at war with Great Britain decided to attack one of their British colonies on the border, which was Canada. Or would go on to become Canada.
That was fascinating! Thank you Tyler.
The animosity worked both ways as did the raids across the border including the US Civil War, where the British supported the Confederate States mainly just to irritate the Americans. While there were Confederate raids of Vermont launched from Quebec, the Fenians were Irish nationalists based in the USA who raided Canada to destabilize the British. Much of this came to an end when Canada became a country in 1867, recognized just one country in the USA and much better relations were ahead.
This war was a spill over from the Battle of US Independence ... who were British colonies until then and recognized Canadian colonies were profitable for the UK.
Interesting fact .. during that War of 1812 Detroit was actually briefly a part of Canada. At the end of the war, they agreed to return the map to its prewar state.
The battle of Chateauguay was significant by the fact that a handful of Canadians, allies (300) and Natives were able to defeat a much bigger and powerfull army of American General Hampton (7000). His army was trying to conquer Montreal, with the help of General Wilkinson.
It was 1,530 under British/Canadian command vs roughly 2,600 US invaders. You might want to get your facts straight before commenting.
@@James-zg2nl Let's make things strait: there were no british soldiers at Châteauguay. French speaking canadians and first nations' warriors.
@@LouismarieBelanger for someone trying to get things strait your comment isn’t factually accurate. The commander of the Canadian militia and aboriginal warriors was a British Army officer. He was indeed a French-Canadian, but technically a British Army officer. That is why I wrote British/Canadian. All Canadian militias were an extension of British forces until the Militia Act of 1868.
@@James-zg2nl Ok then. Besides him no british soldiers. Am I more accurate? He was from where I was born in Beauport five miles east from Québec. When I was young I saw the Manor of Salaberry It doesn't exist anymore.
I grew up in SW Quebec, near the site of the Battle of Chateauguay, part of the war of 1812 -- when the English Canadians, French Canadians and indigenous allies in Canada defeated the Americans. To this day, on a piece of farmland not far from the town of Huntingdon, Quebec, where I grew up, there's a monument to this victory and honouring those who sacrificed to keep the Americans from reaching Montreal, then the capital of Lower/Upper Canada.
Charles-Michel d'Irumberry de Salaberry was a French speaking Canadian officer born 5 miles East of Quebec City in Beauport (where I was born). The Governor Prevost ask him to form an unit of light infantery composed mainly of french speaking canadians. The unit was named ¨Les Voltigeurs Canadiens¨ They were all volunteers. So it was important to french speaking canadians to defend french language and to defend their religion which was roman catholic. They were not giving a darn about english soldiers that's why they fought under the command of a well known french speaking officer. My name is Louis-Marie Bélanger. My family is in Québec since 1634 . We are part of Stem Families of the province of Québec. I hope that you will excuse my English because I don't usuelly use that language and I'm not sorry about it. (referring to the joke about canadians saying ¨sorry¨about anything). It is not my case because I speak French. By the way, I like your sense of humor. From now on I shall follow your presentations. It is quite interresting!
Salut, Franco-Ontarien ici!
My family name is Beauchamp and my ancestors have been here since 1659.
I grew up on a CHATEAUGUAY (spelling) Street between Montreal and Salaberry.
Two major outcomes. The BRitish/Canadians defended well what is now Canada, but they lost their territory on the southern sides of the Great Lakes into Ohio and Michigan. Also, their indian allies were defeated, because they were largely abandoned by the British. This had a huge impact on the United States as it opened up territories between the Appalachians and Missippi River for settlement..
Sorry but by the War of 1812 the British did not own any territory on the southern sides of the Great Lakes into Ohio and Michigan.
Could you put the links to these videos below? Also the links to your merchandise? I'd like to order more of it. Very happy ewith the Canadian shirts I bought.
Enjoy your reactions. You're hilarious!!😄😄😄🙏🏻🙏🏻🇨🇦🇨🇦
I am so happy to see your subscriber count go up, I think it was on the weekend you had 41 subscribers at one time. Keep the great content going. : )
On September 14, 1814, U.S. soldiers at Baltimore's Fort McHenry raised a huge American flag to celebrate a crucial victory over British forces during the War of 1812. The sight of those “broad stripes and bright stars” inspired Francis Scott Key to write a song that eventually became the United States national anthem.
It was only the French part who had to make a choice and were between the two powers. They'd already been conquered and assimilated by the British, affording them some concessions in terms of Catholicism, language and customs etc. France had deserted them and after years of sacrifice and potentially having to uproot from other places considered their homes, life was on the up and stable under the British. The rest of Canada was for the most part staunchly British and didn't want a bar of what was going on south of them in terms of the lawlessness of the wild west etc.
We were never assimilated. They tried, but we held to our language and culture with all that we are. And now we have been recognize as our own nation by the Canadian government.
Assimilated in terms of being part of Canada, holding an allegiance to the Crown and respecting the laws of the nation. I didn’t mean give up all sense of identity in terms of French heritage, language and religion, as noted in what I wrote. I meant no disrespect by the term but I do think it was probably a wise choice and I think the deal offered by the British was a better one than that offered by the US.
@@mrd4785 Oh for sure the deal from the British was a better one, but integrated would have been a better term then assimilated.
@@isabelleblanchet3694 If Louisiana is any indicator Quebec would have lost everything under the Americans in terms of culture.
@@isabelleblanchet3694 It is not in the Constitution so absolutely not recognised from the rest of Canada. It would be rejected by other provinces.
Canadian here. I remember an assignment in school while studying the American Civil War. We had to write a letter to a relative that was on the “other” side.... and how you would tell them about family etc to try to understand how it affected the families in the US during that time.
Even people in Canada might not know about the war of 1812. I did a project on Laura Secord and my teacher said I couldn't do a history project on a chocolate company!
It's pretty deplorable that your "teacher" didn't know who Laura Secord actually was. She gave intelligence to the British (our side) and was a French Canadian. What a woman. Chocolate company, indeed.
Very high cultured teacher isn't she?
I use to live in Hamilton Ont. not far from the Battle Stoney Creek there is a park there now.
I feel like you didn’t really listen to the last part he said? Canadians saw British solders as their own.
So even If It was just British forces, the Canadians would seem them as their own soldiers.
British soldiers burnt down the white houses in retaliation for the US trying to invade Canada, however he said since Canadians saw British soldiers as their own, it would be Canadians burnt it down even though it was the British soldiers or both.
To be precise, a flotilla of British Imperial soldiers burned down the White House in retaliation for the sacking and burning of York, Upper Canada (today Toronto). The Fort York arsenal had been rigged with explosives and barricades to direct the explosion though, which felled many of the attackers and ultimately became one of the events that led to the American failure to invade Canada. That being said, indeed, every "Canadian" at the time would have seen themselves fighting the Americans, in association with the forces cooperating with the British Crown. Hence the participation of the First Nations under Tecumseh.
@@K1ddkanuck British soldiers burnt public buildings in Washington according to the then rules of war (private buildings were left alone). One of those building was later white-washed to hide the fire damage and became known as the White House.
@@K1ddkanuck Almost. The sacking and burning of York was resented by the Americans for the loss of a large number of their men when the British powder magazine was blown up to keep it from the hands of the enemy. Among those men was Zebulon Pike, the namesake of Pike's Peak. After the retreat back to Fort George following the failed invasion that was stopped at Stoney Creek, the American forces eventually abandoned the fort and burned the town of Newark (Niagara-on-the-Lake) leaving about 400 residents out in the cold in mid winter. Some historians consider this a major cause of the attack on Washington.
Fun fact: An American General took books from a library in York during the first attack. He returned them in the second sacking of York....😁
It was a conglomeration of British soldiers, English speaking settlers joining the fight as well as the French speaking settlers and native peoples.
I happen to live in this area.. Sallaberry and Chateauguay... Yes, this part of Québec was actively impacted by the attacks... Near my hometown, there's even a national park with a fort from that period... and also... my great-great- great-whatever-grandfather fought in this war! so that's that...
Why was the War of 1812 fought. Right. Everyone says it was because ships of the Royal Navy would stop American flagged ships and take sailors off it to serve in the British ship/Royal Navy. Primarily they were after British sailors who had in the past, after making port in Halifax, St. John, or any port in the area, buggered off & made their way to the US. Naturally, they found work as seamen on American ships. Unfortunately, it wasn't always British subjects that they pulled from American ships. And Britain needed sailors b'coz she was fighting France. However.... What too many people don't take into account as part of the cause of the war, is that the British army was allied with several indigenous tribes, who resented the westward expansion of US settlers into the Ohio River Valley and beyond. The Brits didn't like it either and so supplied the native warriors with firearms & supplies so they could harass, burn out, settlers & generally impede that westward expansion.
The White House. We didn't burn it down, it was made of stone after all, but yeah we burned it. And you guys, in an effort to hide the scorch marks, painted the US Presidential Mansion was white. Ta-daa...lol
Are you British?
@@TheIceman567
Canadian.
Indeed. The reasons for the war can be (over)simplified to two words: "manifest destiny".
@@Leafsdude wrong that didn’t start until 1845. Geez will you Canadians learn something. I’m embarrassed for you guys for being falsely taught this war.
You watched the best war of 1812 doc I have yet seen.
Look up:
Manifest Destiny: the sense of entitlement of American settlers that ALL of N America belonged to them.
54 40 or fight: Slogan of American insurgents that they would settle for nothing less than all of N America reaching up to Alaska
I see a lot of Americans in the comments trying to differentiate between UK influence in Canada, and "full" independance from Britain. Canadian response: bite me! We consider ourselves Canadian since the 1500s.
Canada didn't form a government until >>1868
Fun fact,
Louisiana's history is closely tied to Canada's. In the 17th century, Louisiana was colonized by French Canadians in the name of the King of France. In the years that followed, additional waves of settlers came from French Canada to Louisiana, notably the Acadians, after their deportation by British troops in 1755.
Bâton-Rouge, capitol of Louisiana literally translates to 'Red-Stick.' 🐾
Charles De Salisbury was a Canadian officer that led a Canadian regiment to a victory defending Chateugay in a battle. There is alot to this story but hope this helps get you started.
Salaberry. Salisbury is a british name.
It's Chateauguay.
@@JujuForTheWin Salaberry was an old french family name. The family was in Beauport 5 miles East of Québec since the french colony period.
He commanded a battalion as a Lieutenant-Colonel. Regiments are commanded by full Colonels, a rank De Salaberry never achieved. He did command a forced large enough to be considered a full brigade at one battle though, but never a regiment.
Both sides of my ancestors were involved in 1812 war rumour I have is my ancestor was caught and was told to leave America. Or that he was on trial and was acquitted because he was American and a loyalist and fled to Canada more loyal to the crown ( freedom)
A lot of the Canadian success was due to the assistance and woodland wisdom of the indigenous peoples. 🇨🇦🖖🏻🇨🇦
The natives later sided with the Americans. (Second treaty of Greenville 1814) included the Shawnee
That is only accurate in regards to the first half of the war. The US soundly beat our aboriginal allies at the Battle of the Thames in 1813. From that point forward they played no more significant role in the war leaving the second half of the war to be fought by the British Regulars & Canadian militias, which is why the Treaty of Ghent ignores the interests of the aboriginal tribes allied to the British. The tribes allied to the British were forced to sign their own peace terms with the US more than a year before the final peace talks began.
@@James-zg2nl Got that info off a documentary. Blame it on the CBC. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation or whatever its full name is. 🇨🇦🖖🏻🇨🇦
@@Momcat_maggiefelinefan fair enough. The CBC is not known for its journalistic integrity. That being said, in the year 2000 the CBC did produce a great series of about 12 hours long covering Canadian history from pre-colonial times to the end of the Cold War. It’s simply called Canada: A People’s History. Strongly recommended it if you can stomach 12 hours of Canadian history lol. Since then the CBC has really gone off the rails of integrity and quality documentaries.
@@James-zg2nl I’ll definitely check this out. One of my close friends is a researcher for the CBC! Thanks. 🇨🇦🖖🏻🇨🇦
I like your curiosity and your closing comments, it just confirms what America has done and is doing and will continue to do. As a Canadian, I hope there's a lot more Americans like you than we are meant to believe,. Under the current state of affairs.🙂. Keep up the good work.
If you mean impressment or attacking American settlers
America: “let’s give this land some freedom”
Canada: “no thanks”
Tyler, here is some clarification on the Battle of Châteauguay -
The Battle of Châteauguay, in the War of 1812, took place on 26 October 1813. Canadian troops, under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Charles-Michel de Salaberry, defeated a larger American force. Châteauguay is an off-island suburb of Montreal, in southwestern Quebec, about 30 km upstream from the city.
The Canadian perspective of the War of 1812? I think they mean for the commoners who had no idea of events which led up to the war. For starters, The British took over an American fort in the beginning of the war. Then...American troops advanced into British Canada and retreated.
then the British tried to invade the US several times but failed then retreated
The British (and their Indigenous allies) took over Fort Detroit at the 'beginning of the war' because it was the base America used to launch its initial incursion into Canada at Sandwich. Taking Fort Detroit was the counter attack to the invasion of Sandwich.
Somewhat related, a lot of reactors learning about Canada love the video "Canadians Change when the hear the word "War"". It's a video that cracks a lot of people up and I think you'd enjoy it. You'd learn a lot too, so it would be fun.
As an American I am sure you have heard of the "Continental Congress", Continental Army", "Manifest Destiny", and " 54-40 or Fight". Even the earliest of American governments & politicians had designs on controlling all of North America. In the early 1800's Great Britain was coping with Napoleon and tried to restrict all shipping to and from France. This led to conflict with the recently created USA who wanted free access to Europe. The USA declared war vs. G.B. As the USA could not attack G.B. directly they decided to attack the British colonies to the north. In the minds of Americans, it would be a simple case of just marching into the colonies and taking control. Not so. The relatively small number of British troops , along with local militias and help from Indigenous fighters were successful in repelling the numerous attacks from much larger armies from south of the border. (By the way - the attack on Washington by British troops was in retaliation for a previous attack by the Americans against York (now Toronto).) The War of 1812 was not the last time that the USA tried to expand north. The American and several state governments turned a blind eye when the Fenians made their pathetic forays into the colonies.
Hi Tyler I think you would find Camp X very intresting. It was a Camp in world War 2 in Canada where spies were trained. The creature of the Camp was a famous yet little known hero who helped to later train Bill Donavan who created the OSS that became the CIA. Supposedly Ian Fleming trained there and based James Bond on this man . The man's name is William Stephenson
I love how you actually know how America twists it's history lol
Not us twisting the history, this video completely leaves out why the war was fought.
@@TheIceman567 in a nutshell, the British empire was still restricting US trade and the US wanted to expand their territory.
@@jomac841 only to the west in the Northwestern territory
Not really the USA, just some greedy rich men wanting more land@@jomac841
That's the way of bad loosers isn't it?
my neighbor was talking to cruise ship people from the states yesterday, she was blown away that they didn't know about the war of 1812.
The American's argument was they were liberating Canada from Great Britain, which Canada kinda was fine still being with Great Britain, but also America saw Canada as their birthright seeing they were on the Manifest Destiny track and they claimed Canada was part of their Independence agreement.
Tecumseh was a pivotal player in the war of 1812, according to my late foster dad. Laura Secord was the one who raised the alarm, she was to that point a 🇺🇸.
The British in England brought that was upon themselves. Three of the primary reasons: embargoes on American shipping, press-ganging American sailors, and giving arms and aid to western native populations in conflict with Americans. We were caught in the middle, as the man says, obliged to fight for the British as a colony of theirs and having their troops on our land and their ships in our waters. We did, however, capture the state of Maine, which was subsequently ransomed. The Canadians used the funds to build Dalhousie University.
Also interesting to note, it was one of several attempts the Americans made on us. In fairness, we came up with Defence Scheme #1 in 1921, targeting a number of American cities in a plan for the Canadian invasion of the U.S. The Americans had War Plan Red in 1935 and actually massed 45 thousand troops close to the border near St. Catherines in an ill-disguised series of "war games". That plan failed because it was accidentally disclosed by someone in the U.S. government. The plan itself remained in the Pentagon until declassified in 1974. It is very important to remember that these last two operations occurred when Canada was an independent nation; so the myth of 'friendship' between the two countries is just that, a myth.
We also now have huge quilts standing in areas that were part of the fighting. The natives helped us a lot to fight the Americans. They knew the country well and were able to help in the fight.
@6:43 America's motivation was to limit Canada's aid to England. As you previously mentioned Canada is a vast forested area, America was at war with Great Britain and Canada was providing large amounts of lumber for shipbuilding and masts to Britain's navy. If they could take it over, they could use Canada's natural resources for themselves instead of allowing it to continue to flow to their enemy. Canada was still a Colony not it's own country at this point in history, we were essentially "owned" by England and so therefore a fair target
@9:56 Sort of but not really, as a colony Canada would have a limited number of British regulars for defense and bureaucracy but the vast majority was militias
@16:14 yes we set fire to the whitehouse, that's why it is now called the whitehouse...because they had to whitewash the stone pillars to hide the char marks
Your first point is not wrong, but it was a secondary motive for the US to invade the Canadas. You missed the primary motives for some reason.
Calling the Canadian militia as being the “vast majority” of the British force is not accurate. All naval forces were British, none were Canadian, and roughly 40% of the land forces were Canadian militia that actually deployed to fight. Some additional 40,000 British troops were deployed in reserves to launch a full scale invasion of the US if the peace talks failed in late 1814. Without them threatening to invade the war likely would have continued into 1815.
Your last point is a pure myth. Not much truth in it. It is true the Executive Mansion (what is was called back then) was white washed to cover the burn marks over the mansion. However, the name White House did not come up be until Theadore Roosevelt’s presidency over 8 decades later. The Excessive Mansion was sometimes nicknamed as the ‘white house’ but some sources for the nickname use predate the British raid on Washington in 1814. So either way the myth is BS.
There's a great story about the first lady during this time. She was having a dinner party that night when they found out the the Canadians were coming. She didn't have much time, but she knew what to save and that was the portrait of George Washington. Unfortunately, the Canadians were starving and therefore ate the food, stole all the wine and other supplies in the white house, which if I'm correct, was red brick, and then drank and ate and had one of the best times (being full and drunk...a very Canadian thing) all the way home. But still I think she was great!
A small fact also not very well know it that for a great part the 1812-1814 war was mostly decided at the battle of Plattsburgh and by a naval victory of the Master Commandant Thomas Macdonough. Is victory on the lake Champlain, and without that victory on the lake Prévost will have easily take Plattsburgh with the 16000 veteran troops under is command and will have almost no opposition to reach New York and cutting the state in 2. By loosing the lake and do not forget in those years no road so the supply where transport by waterways so the control of the lake was a crucial. Here a good link about it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plattsburgh
Canada did win the war of 1812 because Canada still exists. I have forebearers who were United Empire Loyalists as well as those who fought on the side of the US so my roots are firmly entrenched in both countries histories. I've lived in Canada all my life but have paternal ancestors that lived in the US in the 1700s, fought for both sides in the revolution as well as 1812 and my Canadian father served in the US army.
Ahem, The British Empire and The United States fought to a draw which ensured that British North America continued to remain British North America.
no Canada didnt win Canada wasnt even a country at the time, it was a war between the US and the UK, and the US achieved several of its objectives in that war and when the British tried to invade the US and tried to make the US cede territory to the UK the British failed in that objective as well
😂 Nonsense!… Canada couldn’t fight its way out of a wet paper bag!… It was your colonial master Britain vs a very young USA that just kicked out your Brits just 36 years ago!… The USA had the upper hand over your colonial master Britain but the war ended up in a stalemate but set the course for the next 100 years or so!… Britain realized that the U.S. was a up and coming power and that momentum cannot be stopped!… It never messed with the mighty USA again and ended up being America’s little lapdog!
@@somebodykares1 if "Canadians" were fighting the war even though they werent even independent then Americans won against the Dutch during the Conquest of New Netherland in 1664, the Americans won against the French during the Queen Annes war in 1713, the Americans won against the French again in the Father Le Loutre's War in 1755, and the Americans won against the French again in the 7 years war in 1763 since Americans took part and won all of them even though we werent independent, and then the Americans also won a war against the Canadians during the Northwest Indian war in 1795, 1534? i looked it up directly and it said the French settled in Canada in 1604, while the first time the English settled in the American lands it was 1584 at Roanoke modern day North Carolina, the Canadians being British in the war of 1812 is not the same as the Americans in the revolutionary war, the Americans were already independent in 1776 and the war ended in 1783, so it was not British vs British it was independent Americans winning the war against the British empire, Canada wasnt even independent during the war of 1812 thats why its universally recognized that the united states started in 1776 and that we have 246 years of history, while Canada only became independent way later until 1867 and even still wasnt fully independent, you still remained as British subjects until 1982, and even AFTER 1982 that Queen is still head of the Canadian monarchy, imagine letting British people be your colonial masters for so long, thats embarrassing
@@somebodykares1 pffft you're right i dont care, shes not so immortal now is she? 😂
I am from Maryland site of the battles of North Point and Baltimore during the war. We might have learned a teensy bit more than the rest of the country but not all that much.
Tyler, you can't watch a RUclips video of a subject such as the War of 1812, especially one that is as biased as this one, and think you know the whole story. The war was very complicated, and the U.S. declared war against Britian due to severe trade restrictions levied against American shipping and the impressment of American sailors into the British Navy. The British were bankrupting our fledgling economy. And the United States government reluctantly declared war to right those British wrongs. Do your homework and learn the whole story from both sides. There was also a Canadian Revolutionary War against Britian and the restrictions against Upper and Lower Canada for reasons similar to our Revolutionary War.
There were several rebellions in different parts of Canada but they were not ever referred to or seen as a 'Revolutionary War' in Canada. The war hawks in Congress did have several 'reasons' for the invasion, but they were a little bit bullshit with a sprinkling of truth. They wanted to take the territory from Britain and they thought they would be welcomed as liberators and they were mistaken. Famously, one Congressman said "Taking Canada will be a mere matter of marching" and then they got here and there was resistance they weren't expecting.
You would be shocked to know what the deciding factors in that war boiled down to. It would be trulya "NO WAY" moment
War of 1812
Definitely won - Canada prevented invasion
Definitely lost - Native American tribes on both sides.
Probably won - UK achieved it's main war aims, (which were to get out of this annoying war) but had some embarrassing defeats
Probably lost - USA. Failed to achieve its war goals (apart from goals that would have been achieved if it had done nothing) some embarrassing defeats but also some important victories.
The Americans did achieve with the help of France lifting the naval blockade the British had on the Americans. This is the thing that American historians and educators give for their reason why the Yanks won. It bs. But both our countries like to revise history.
@@davidedwards3838 I'm not sure what you are talking about. The only blockade before the war of 1812 was of Europe (which was one of the things which annoyed the Americans). At the end of the war of 1812 the American coast was almost completely blockaded and the French were in no position to help anyone. Having been defeated
It's true that the blockade of Europe ended but that was because Napoleon surrendered. And this removed most of the Americans complaints
@@scollyb the USA archive all of its objectives end of impressment defeat of the natives. British failure in taking land in the USA a Indian buffer state, Maine (which the British occupied east port Maine until 1818) and Minnesota to control the upper Mississippi. But Napoleon came back in 1815 the British government gave orders not to impress any Americans may I request the book by historian Donald Hickey “don’t give up the ship the myths of the war of 1812”
@@TheIceman567 The UK had no interest in taking any US territory, it drop its demand for a native buffer zone, as the US dropped demands to promise not to impress sailors.
There was no naval war in 1815, it only lasted 100 days and was entirely on land
So Americas achievement was "making" the UK do what it had no interest in doing
If the US hadn't declared war the situation in 1815 would have been exactly the same.
@@scollyb incorrect, Britain made these demands and only dropped them after the American victories and of Plattsburgh and Baltimore happened.
There was a naval war look up the Invasion of Guadeloupe in 1815.
Yes the USA declared war, the British admiralty gave orders not to stop or harass American shipping during the 100 days. The British gave up support for the natives leading to westward expansion and war in amen seriously in the global Stage.
My husband’s family were Loyalists. They were the Dyckmans - descendants of one of the first Dutch settlers in NYC.
The story continues with Sir John A McDonald who became the first prime minister of Canada. He was instrumental in the building of Canada promising a continental Railroad from sea to sea. Gordon Lightfoot's "the great Canadian Railroad Trilogy " tells the story very powerfully.
Sir John's motivation was to keep Canada from becoming American.
We aren't allowed to celebrate him anymore because he, like every other
European Christian at that time was terribly racist. We have come a long way.
In 1812 we weren’t even Canada yet. A lot of the population that would settle in Canada hadn’t even come over yet from Britain, Europe and the rest of the world. We officially formed a government, as you know, in 1867.
@letitbesummer6536 - Which means, the War of 1812 was fought between The USA and BRITAIN. NOT Canada.
After the American Revolution, thousands of people living in the new USA and who wanted to remain loyal to Britain, fled across the border. They were United Empire Loyalists and they mostly settled in Southern Ontario.
windsor area and in Amherstburg chef Tecumseh native helped huge to invade Detroit we were out numbered and won. people of detroit thought we had more men fighting instead was the natives making lots of noise
A great documentary is available from PBS, The war of 1812.
Two books you should read are the War of 1812 and The Battle of the Windmill (The Alamo of the North) both written by Donald Graves.
you should have heard of Tecumseh at 14:25 there is a Tecumseh curse that in 1840/1860/1880/1900/1920/1940/1960 every president elected in those years died in office in 1980 was almost added to the list
Tecumseh died in the war of 1812 on Oct.5 1813
Maine was also part of Canada during the war and America was allowed to keep it
You might also want to lookup the sea shanty called "Captain Barrett's Privateers". It is still sung and known by most of the Canadian military, and most Canadians in the maritimes. After the US won independence, the British Crown employed privateers out of Sherbrooke, QC, to raid American merchant ships and harass their fledgling navy.
"Oh the year was 1778, I wish I was in Sherbrooke now..."
Heh, memories of the late and great Stan Rogers. As the song goes, the privateers did not do too well out of it.....
Sherbrooke Nova Scotia
Before July 1st 1867, officially, there was no Canada. Before that, we (yes I'm Canadian) were British colonies (and even before that some of us were French colonies). So the war of 1812, could not (technically) be between the U.S. and Canada has Canada wasn't a country yet. During the war of 1812, we were known as the North American British colonies, among witch Upper Canada (today's Ontario) and Lower canada (today's Québec) (and others). Here is a nice little video explaining more of the war of 1812; ruclips.net/video/TyY0sDvoi9c/видео.html
There was also a population of escaped slaves that were living in Canada as free men. They volunteered to fight the Americans to protect themselves from being recaptured back into slavery.
Lieutenant Colonel Charles-Michel d'Irumberry de Salaberry was a French-Canadian nobleman with a family tradition of French military service to live up to. When Quebec became a British colony, he carried on the tradition anyway under the British. Interesting man. He commanded Canadian militia and First Nation forces in the Battle of the Chateauguay, defeating a larger American army. Unlike some of the other battles in this war, this one was commanded and fought without the help of British regular soldiers. By the way, some of the militias of that time survive as regiments in the Canadian Army Reserve.
Les Voltigeurs de Québec !
@@LouismarieBelanger Yes, indeed.
Quebecer Charles-Michel de Salaberry created a regiment of Quebec volunteers. He was victorious at the Battle of Châteauguay with a distinctive regiment that he had raised himself (the Voltigeurs), he quickly became a hero for his decisive battles won during the War of 1812 and will be the most respected Quebec soldier of his time. The regiment had 400 men and managed to deceive the American army which included 3000 soldiers.
As a French Canadian... Assimilation policies did exist. To this day... we managed to preserve our language and our culture. For how much longer, I don't know. 9 Million people Sorrounded by 500 000 000 people speaking English....
If the US would have been successful in 1812 and been able to take Lower Canada... I believe we would of become another Louisiana. French history through architecture, family names and that's it.
15:47 Yup there's the reaction I've been waiting for hahaha
I almost forgot. Châteauguay is not a person but a place where there's been a battle. In french : ¨ la bataille de Châteauguay.¨
I gotta watch this, that war blew right in my town
"The acquisition of Canada this year, as far as the neighborhood of Quebec, will be a mere matter of marching...." - Thomas Jefferson, 1814.
The hubris ran thick with the war-hawks in congress. They were soon to realize that poorly trained militia troops had little appetite for wars outside their own state, and were not much of a match versus professional British soldiers and motivated Canadian militia and First Nations warriors. Multiple attempts to invade Canada were hands down the worst thing Americans who wanted Canada in the Union could have done. All it really accomplished was to galvanize Canadians.