American Reacts to When Canada Burned Down the White House
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2022
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While learning about the War of 1812 I couldn't help but overhear a little something about the United States White house getting burned down by Canada. After some initial shock and wondering why I had never heard about this US and Canadian incident, my next thought was immediately about how great of a reaction this would make for an American to learn this story. If you enjoy my reaction feel free to leave a like, comment, or subscribe for more videos like this!
The biggest difference between Canadians and Americans is in school Canadians learn equally about other countries, not just Canadian history.
exactly!!! Canadians know more about Americans that they know about us!!
@@Sinister2022 Canadians know more about Americans than they know about themselves.
Lol yep. Moved from Canada to the US in the 11th grade. Blew my history teacher's mind when I knew all the answers without having to study. I became his default answer person. Teacher:WHO IS THIS? Come on this is your history!! Fine Athena? Me: oh that blab blab.
Uk is the same we learn equal about the good and bad of our own history as well as others. USA is like Russian schools teach propaganda
Sinißr2022. Ha! hilarious. True. Probably why I laughed so hard
Canadian here, we learned we Did it not Once, but Twice.
And helped the British do it to didn't we?
@@burgergaming19 we were the British
@@burgergaming19 we have been Canadians ... upper Canada or just Canada ... we were under british rule but NOT british ... just like americans were under british rule but not british ... before they tossed some tea into the bay ... Canadian irregular infantry volunteers burnt down the white house... no British CANADIAN
@@burgergaming19 Canada was still a British colony at the time.
Something that's not mentioned in this video you watched is that the burning of the White House was a retaliation for American's burning towns and public buildings in Canada, which is a HUGE omission. It's already been mentioned below in the comments about the American burning of the Canadian town of Newark (modern Niagara on the Lake), which resulted in numerous reprisals by British and Canadian troops upon American towns. However, a more specific reason is that when the Americans invaded York (modern Toronto - the capital of Upper Canada at the time), American troops burned the Parliament Buildings. So burning the White House was a reprisal for burning the Canadian equivalent. When Canada confederated in 1867, one of the reasons Ottawa was chosen for its capital is that it's further from the U.S. border and therefore theoretically easier to defend from an American invader.
Montréal was the capital until an angry mob burned down the parliament in 1849. That’s the reason Ottawa was chosen, away from too much instability in that city.
@@alaingadbois2276 No, Jeff Gaboury is correct. The first capital of the United provinces of Canada (Canada East and Canada West, aka Quebec and Ontario, was Kingston, Ontario, founded in 1673 by Count Frontenac). But, like Montreal, Kingston was too close to the U.S. border. So Queen Victoria chose Ottawa.
@@billdaverne9389 The first was Kingston, then Montréal. After it was Toronto and Québec in alternance until Ottawa was chosen in 1857. It’s just between both provinces. The war had been over for 43 years by then. I doupt the US was considered to be as hostile at that time.
Yes, and please review my more detailed explanation about York, the huge explosion of the powder magazine and the role of Gen. Zebulon Pike and his Kentucky Irregulars.
Thank You.
I get so sick of some Americans talking about they could just invade us and take us over like Canada s military is a joke..BUT NOTHING COULD BE FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH..THROUGHOUT HISTORY CANADIANS HAVE GAINED PRAISE FOR OUR PEOPLE AND MILITARY WHO FIGHT BRAVELY AND ACCOMPLISHED MANY WIN THAT THEIR ALLIES HAFNT SUCCEEDED AT, ALSO CANADA WON THE WAR WHEN AMERICA TRIED TO CONQUER US…AND CANADA ALSO WERE VITAL IN THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD HELPING COUNTLESS SLAVES ESCAPE AMERICA. CANADA ALSO DOES PEACE MISSIONS NOT JUST WAR.
THE REASON THAT SO MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD HATE AMERICAN TOURISTS…PRE TRUMP IS BECAUSE IN AMERICA THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IS FRANKLY POOR..ALL Americans learn about is America. It’s UNBELIEVABLE THE ABSURD BELIEFS AMERICANS HAVE ABOUT CANADA…YET CANADIANS KNOW ALL ABOUT AMERICA , AND THE HISTORY OF MANY COUNTRIES ….AROUND THE WORLD ..BECAUSE WE LEARN WORLD HISTORY.
THERE WAS A COMEDY PROGRAM THAT WAS EXTREMELY POPULAR THAT HAD A ONE OF THE CAST MEMBERS GOING TO AMERICA AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT CANADA 🇨🇦 OR SAYING OUTRAGEOUS THINGS ABOUT CANADA THAT ALMOST EVERY AMERICAN BELIEVED NO ,ATTER HOW IMPROVABLE . THE SKIT WAS SO POPULAR IT BECAME ITS OWN SHOW,
THE SHOW IS CALLED TALKING TO AMERICANS…..AND THE EPISODES I FOUND MOST SHOCKING AND HILARIOUS WAS WHEN RIB MERCER ..THE HOST AND A CANADIAN COMEDIAN…..WENT TO HARVARD, PRINCETON, YALE ..ALL THE TOP IVY LEAQUE SCHOOLS …BECAUSE HE NOT ONLY SPOKE WITH STUDENTS BUT WITH HARVARD PROFESSORS AND THE HEADS OF THESE SCHOOLS AND THESE SCHOOLS HAVE SUCH A REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD AS BEING THE ELITE..THAT HEARING THEIR ANSWERS ON CANADA PROVED THIS BELIEF IS A TOTAL MISCONCEPTION….ONE THAT AMERICAN MEDIA HAS NO DOUBT CREATED.
ANYWAYS IF YOU GET A CHANCE JUST WATCH ONE OR TWO EPISODES…THEIR HILARIOUS…..OF COURSE IVE NEVER WATCHED ONE WITH A AMERICAN..SO FOR AMERICANS IT MIGHT NOT BE AS FUNNY AS IT IS EDUCATIONAL ..BECAUSE THEY MIGHT ALSO THINK WHAT THESE AMERICANS THINK IS TRUE..MIGHT ALSO BE SOMETHING THEY ALSO THINK AND WHILST ITS HILARIOUS FOR CANADIANS WHO KNOW THE TRUTH AND HOW ABSURD THEIR RESPONSES ARE …BUT MAYBE NOT AS FUNNY FOR AMERICANS..BUT ATILL ITS WORTH A LOOK .EVENTO KEARN ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBOUR.
Good old Canadians, tough as nails, as a brit you'll always be our brothers in arms, much respect. ❤️
Expect they weren’t here.
Like how during WWII they used Canadians like pawns
@@brennenbjorgan1867 Introducing the Geneva Suggestions rofl
Thanks
@@brennenbjorgan1867 because only the canadians were crazy enough to do it
My seven-times great grandfather fought in the War of 1812, and I’d like to point out a few misconceptions about this pointless conflict. The British attack on Washington was a punitive expedition in response to an American atrocity inflicted on the 500 or so residents of Newark (now Niagara-on-the-Lake) in Canada. As the Americans retreated in December 1813, they torched the town destroying some 150 buildings leaving the surviving townspeople to freeze to death in what would now be called a war crime.
By comparison, in 1814, while the American president was in full flight with the Declaration of Independence under his arm, the British made it clear to the remaining residents of Washington that the occupying forces would only torch government buildings. This they did, leaving civilians and all private property unmolested.
It’s hard to hear of humans being described as property but that was the internationally recognised, legal status of slaves at that time; and It was this principle that led to the British compensating Americans whose slaves had fought for the British in the War of 1812. Having promised them their freedom, we were not about to renege on that promise.
Conversely, those slaves who had foolishly supported the Americans at the Battle of New Orleans on Andrew Jackson’s promise of freedom were told afterwards he could not grant it because they were someone's private property.
The frontal attack on New Orleans was plan B, and not a very good idea. Plan A was to take Fort Bowyer (in modern-day Alabama) and thence overland to New Orleans. Having failed with plan A and plan B, the British returned to the now much more heavily fortified Fort Bowyer. Andrew Jackson said it could not be taken with 10,000 men. On 7th February 1815, the British succeeded with just 1,400.
American history books will recall how its governor bravely held out for five days against the British. The British version of events is rather different. The Americans capitulated on the first day, and it was agreed the Americans would leave as prisoners of war the following day. The governor requested a delay, as so many of his men had got drunk. he British took control on 11th February. This British victory was the final battle of the War, not the more famous Battle of New Orleans.
Francis Scott Key did not write the “song” The Star Spangled Banner. He merely wrote a poem which was then put to the tune we all know. The music was by British composer John Stafford Smith. Hail to the Chief is also a British tune, written by James Sanderson.
Andrew Jackson was a POS he was the most evil president our country ever had. He committed genocide on many native people, other British people, of course African Americans. If things were not bad enough for enslaved people he made them 100 times worse.
In the 2009 satirical film 'In the Loop', sweary Director of Communications for the British PM, Malcolm Tucker (Peter Capaldi), is sent to Washington to join secret discussions about a possible US/UK military intervention in the Middle East. During this time Tucker falls out with American Lt.General George Miller (James Gandolfini). In a row about national pride or something, Tucker forcefully tells General Miller that " Remember, we came here in 1814 and burnt this building down to the ground - and I'm all in favour of doing it again!" 😁
@@frglee Similarly in the film The Great Escape. There were no Americans present when the real event took place, but why spoil a good story with the truth?! James Garner played an RAF Eagle Squadron officer (comprising Americans who volunteered to fly before the USA joined the war). The German camp guard asked him why he fought for the British when we burned down the White House. Garner denied it and said the whole story was made up!
On the 200th anniversary (I won’t say “celebration”!) of the event in 2014, the British Embassy in Washington served American visitors up with a massive cake created to look like the White House. Decked out with sparklers rather than candles, the image went out on Twitter with the message “…only sparklers this time”. The Americans didn’t see the joke (who can blame them in the circumstances) and they demanded an apology. Sadly, we complied.
Total sense of humour failure!
So you are saying that the Americans burning of the Canadian Capital of York had nothing at all to do with why the British torched the White House. Hmmmm.
@@toddstevens13 No, I am not saying that. However, the civilian massacre caused the more outrage at the time. Both events were a factor.
As a Canadian... I can safely say that even the 'not so smart' students remembered that little tidbit, because it's used as a low blow in any drunken argument with Americans 😂😂
American : "WE ARE FREEDOM, RAWR"
Canadian : "Yeeeeeh well... We burnt down your White House. 🤷♀️😅"
Lmao, I've heard that more times than I can count 😂
If we actually remembered the War of 1812:
USA: But we burned down Toronto twice.
@@Ballenheimer1 And pretty much every Canadian outside of Toronto would have helped burn down Toronto.
@@Ballenheimer1 They did us a favour tbh
@@Ballenheimer1 no one cares about Toronto, if you guys want it please just take it lol 😂 but I’m pretty sure we burnt the White House down twice and never lost a war against the states but you guys did take over and hold our parliament building for a good minute as well
@@Ballenheimer1 celebrating war crimes is a truly American thing.
I mean, the "They will greet us as liberators" is still going through the American psyche 200 years later.
I grew up in the Niagara Region... Although there were many settlers who'd come up from the States, being attacked by their own, set in stone the "we're not like them" mentality that exists to this day.
@PatchesRips Fidel Castro never said "THanks" or casheh a check for Guantanamo Bay.
@@garylabelle123 I've been to Gitmo in the USN. When the USA occupied Cuba Guantanimo Bay was given to the USA but not leased. Basically the USA could use it until they didn't want it anymore or something to that effect and not as a leased area.
Castro cut of the water supply after the Cuba crisis. The USN simply put in salt water evaporators and supplies the whole Gitmo base with water. Used to be known as the cleanest water in the world.
Yep it's contested but is Cuba going to contest that?
So true
@PatchesRips Yeah, nobody likes outsider to butt in their affairs. Unless they are already begging for help.
History: "Sure we're from a warmer country, but lets attack that colder country. Whats the worst that could happen"
Also history: "So that was a bad bad bad idea"
Yes, just ask the Germans about the eastern front.
This event is something that every Canadian knows, it's almost been mythologized.
but we didnt burn down the whitehouse, it was the british.
Can confirm
I've left Canada twice in my life for vacations. I've never heard of this.
That's hilarious that you guys lie to yourselves like that🤣,You guys didn't even do it
@@wiseandstrong3386 we were among the soldiers that did do it, im not sure how its a lie, dont americans do the same thing about other things? dont you guys claim you singlehandedly won both world wars and that the world was doomed prior to your arrival? its not like the reason germany surrendered had anything to do with the massive blockade that was starving their country the first time, or because the soviets had reached berlin or anything....
As a former Canadian soldier, I assure you winter is a huge factor in my mind with war.
and the mountains alot harder to navigate then
As a Canadian I believe I learned this in elementary school, though admittedly it's much more of a flex for Canada than the US lol.
It would be cool if you looked at videos explaining Canada's impact in WW1. Canadian soldiers gained quite the reputation for being tough in war. Would be cool to see your reactions
considered Stormtroopers in both world wars. On D-DAY canadian forces were the only army & forces to achieve their intended goal in a single day.
I second that and WW2!
I totally agree. If there was a tough, almost impossible, target send in the Canadians and they’ll sort it out.
@@debbie541 unlike palpatine's storm troopers, ours could hit things.
Quite the reputation for being tough? I think you're under stating that a tad much lmao
I've lived in both countries and while I learned the white house was burned down when I lived in Texas it wasn't until I moved to Canada to learn who actually burned it down.
The building was red brick and was blackend by the fire. It is called the Whitehouse today because the whole building was Whitewashed.
It was the British who burned down the white house in 1812. Canada didn't become a country until 1867!
Canada is one of very few countries that have never lost a war.
There's an argument to be made for the Boer War being a loss...
Canada lost Afghanistan...
@@tubro541 Sorry, no. Canada left Afghanistan in 2014, our mission to train the Afghan Army completed.
Canada didn't participate in Afghanistan in war, it was more of a peacekeeping effort and training the local armies.
Basically Canada doesn't invade a country with a existing government, it is foreign governments that asks Canada for help.
@@dra6o0n It was Iraq we didn't participate in. We did however participate in Afghanistan.
History is not ours to like or dislike, but to learn from.
The War of 1812 was never more than a side show to the UK. The War against Napoleon was worldwide and FAR more important. Its barely even known about by most Brits.
Yeah it was British people fighting other British people.
That is why the Americans attacked, I think if they would of done it in 1810 they would of succeeded because by the time Napoleon was finally defeated in 1814, it may have been too late to reinforce the Canadian sector.
@@toddstevens13 in 1810 they wouldnt have stood much more chance, the US simply lacked the lines of communication up into Canada to keep the army supplied against a hostile population. Even the French Canadians didnt want the US taking over as Britain allowed them considerable self determination and freedom of Religion. Plus the US never had a sufficiently large navy to protect everywhere all at once AND interdict British supplies and troops going into Canada. This situation was no better in 1810 than 1812. After Trafalgar in 1805 neither France nor Spain were in any position to assist them either.
Arguably if Napoleon had tried straight after the end of the peace of Amiens he might have succeeded in assisting the US as Britain had stood down its Navy hugely. But at this point USS President, Constitution etc hadnt been built either..
That's why the Canadian militia won the war.
Americans don't like admitting their defeats, but yeah Canada did lite up the White House. Take that paint off and see those black burn marks everywhere. Canadians are tough!
While the British sent some troops, and a very talented commander, Isaak Brock, the great majority of the defenders of Canada were local Canadians --- especially First Nations people such as the Ojibway, Mohawks, Mississauga and Seneca. Brock died early in the war, and after him it was mostly the First Nations commanders who led the defence. First Nations people in Canada were fully aware that, while they lived in peace and were respected in Canada, if the U.S. won the war they would be subject to the fanatical hatred that most Americans felt for them, and they would be subjected to the same treatment as their relatives to the south. Most of the settlers in Upper Canada (Ontario) were descended from Americans, and spoke English with an accent very similar to Upstate New York or Pennsylvania, but they were not pleased when they were invaded by Americans who burned their homes, stole their farm animals (whole herds were captured and taken back to the U.S.), and killed their sons. After the war ended, these settlers began to consider themselves Canadians (previously they used the word to mean only French Canadians) rather than either British or American. There was also the issue of slavery. Almost all Canadians were strongly opposed to slavery, and the fact that the United States still possessed vast numbers of enslaved people was the deal-breaker for them. Over the next few generations, large numbers of slaves would escape to freedom in Canada, where they generally prospered. The War of 1812 was mostly popular in the American South and the areas of the Midwest where native people were being exterminated or expelled, and the old French-speaking communities were being obliterated (look at a map, and you'll see the Midwest is full of French place names ---- Detroit remained French-speaking well into the mid 19th century). In New England, where anti-slavery sentiment was relatively strong, there was great opposition to the war, and people wanted to continue their lucrative trade with Canada and the Maritime colonies of Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. Canadians, by the same token, were little interested in the global ambitions and strategies of the British, and cared only in the defence of their own land. Historian Pierre Berton, in his exhaustive history of this war, concluded that the Canadian "identity" that united First Nations, French Canada and English-speaking Canada was more or less created by the War of 1812. However, the war did not create any great hatred between people on either side of the border, and within a few years it became normal again for people to trade and move back and forth, with many people in Canada having relatives in the U.S. While Canadians remained upset about slavery in the U.S., they were greatly inspired by New England's democratic traditions and documents like the Bill of Rights, and admiration for these things eventually led to the Rebellion of 1837, where both French and English Canadians struggled to shake off British influence and establish much more democratic government. When Canada achieved effective independence, with its separate colonies joined together, the result was a very advanced democratic government by the standards of the time --- much more so than Britain, and certainly far better than the tyranny that remained in the American South. Canadians looked to men like Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass with tremendous admiration, and were inspired by them. Thousands of Canadians volunteered to fight for the North during the Civil War.
I'm afraid your history is way off. The defenders were mostly British regulars and so were the commanders. There were definitely important contributions by the First Nations and local settlers but the British did most of the heavy lifting.
@@davidbest4908 sorry, it is you who is way off, sounds a little anti-native American "How dare those Indians act like they fought as tough as white people", without Native Canadians you would be speaking a funny southern drawl right now. It wasn't wars that killed Native Canadians in Canada but treaties and lies and most of all disease and starvation. Id like to argue this point to you but you old "I pay my taxes.." type will only ever see the world in terms of winning or losing. Clearly you lost...you pay me billions every year mine my mines and till my soil, you give me royalties on all product taken from the ground, your Country is called Kanata a Indian word for village, and most landmarks river and mountain ranges are named after Native people and native languages, So you keep on telling yourself that you one a power struggle for Canada, if that what gets you through the day...another point the most highly decorated soldiers in Canada are Ojibwa..both the first and second world war...don't believe me its all public info on the net now
@@edlubitz2968 Your message doesn't deserve a reply.
@@davidbest4908 by the end of the war, there were 48k British Regulars, and 20k combines first nations and militia.
At the start there were 5k British and 20k locals.
Do numbers help you understand that the locals played a significant part.
1 local even prevented an entire invasion. And the burning of the USA capital only happened because a local town was put to torch in what is a war crime.....
I have read a couple of books on the 1812 war and the consensus is the British Army did almost all of the fighting.
I think the war of 1812 deserves a video that goes into more detail. Like other comments, so many specific events happened during this war that are not mentioned. We have a famous female heroine from this war, Laura Secord, who should be acknowledged as well.
She was bringing delicious chocolate to the troops 😆
no seriously she was a great hero and they did a 25 cent to honour her in 2012 to commemorate her achievements. She definitely need a movie.
Actually, as a retired Canadian soldier, I can tell you that we do extensive training to fight in many adverse conditions including cold weather combat. As you said, it weather can drastically change a battle and those who cannot cope are usually the ones defeated. Also, another note is that, at that time in history, there were technically no "Canadians" as we were British citizens. Even after Confederation, Canadians did not have seperate citizenship until 1 January,1947.
👍🏼Good job trying to understand these situations, and kudos for attracting a large number of educated, Canadian commenters.
Britain had been at war for a number of years against Napoleon so the yanks saw their chance to attack the British Empire and declared war. Before Britain could seriously intervene they expected to walkover Canada but like the cowboys they are they came unstuck when the Canadian militia fought back. The Americans burnt down Toronto`s equivalent of the white house which is why the British sailed in and burned down the white house. The president ran to the hills and left his wife to face the British and not long after the Americans sued for peace. The war was already over when the last "major" battle took place one which the Americans celebrate to perpetrate the myth that the war was a "draw" (because news travelled slow). This one-sided affair saw the British had run out of supplies and many of the soldiers resorted to throwing rocks at the Americans.
Declared independence.*
War was presumptive.
Huh? What your just said is the dumbest thing yet. “Sued for peace” 🙄 the USA went on to defeat the British at Baltimore and Plattsburgh than agreed to American terms at Ghent. Nor did Madison run away he went and took charge of troops at Bladensburg. Geez will you Canadian actually learn the history of this war.
You really can't blame the Americans They were extremely upset when the British blew up their powder magazine which result in serval hundred Americans being killed and injured Another part of history you may not know if you visit the US Naval Academy on display is the flag of the King's Battle Standard was ever captured For years the Americans denied they had taken the Mace that was used in the Legisture of what was then York A number of years ago low and behold it magically was found and returned no doubt with an apology
When I was looking at this a while ago, many of the Canadian militia troops that thrashed the American invaders in Lower Canada, were actually French Canadian. The American leaders convinced themselves that a lot of the American emigrants to Canada had just gone north for the cheap land, and would welcome the invasion.
Charles de Salaberry.
Actually there were many Americans that came to Canada and were known as United Empire Loyalists. They wished to remain loyal to Britain. One prominent group that fought against the American invaders in the Niagara region was a group of these loyalists known as Butlers Rangers. A simple internet search of the Butlers Rangers will show many results.
When General Hull crossed in Canada at Windsor and was taking territory He put out a decree that stated anybody who is found having the British would have their crops and building destroyed Now if Hull was here to bring freedom for the Americans living here it back fired
Yep message: don't mess with Canadians.
you don't get it: French or English they considered themselves Canadian ... it was French and English speakers in a massed military body ... Canada today still has 30% + of our population speaking French ... your linguistic choices have nothing to do with patriotism for the land you love
Legend has it when the canadian militia man lit the fire he was heard saying "Sorry eh!" as he threw the match and ran, never to be seen again.
That is very likely a myth. The British troops who raided the area and burnt Washington did not come from the north. They came from Bermuda after sailing from Europe… so how could any Canadian militia man hop aboard when they were never more then several hundred miles from Canada eh?
@@James-zg2nl Brother, it was a joke man.
Canada, in the 1800s, was cold... we were always looking for things to burn that no one would miss. And we were right... you didn't miss it. You didn't even know it burned...
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Canada was not a country in 1812. It was the British and the British colonies.
@@Sinister2022 Canada was not an independent country in 1812. But it was a place. That's like saying "London is not a country" when talking about the London Blitz.
I never says "The country of Canada" Or "Canadian Citizens" I say in Canada it was cold. If you want to split hairs we can... or you can just accept I tried to make a funny comment. You might laugh, groan, or find it annoying but that doesn't change what I said.
@@canadianicedragon2412 It was a place that was occupied by the British colonies. Canada became a country on July 1, 1867.
You Canadians are such liars. It was 4000 British soldiers who were shipped over literally just after defeating Napoleon. Canada had a population of about 80,000 at the time and if it was true that would mean you basically sent you're entire army into America. Use your brains it was British soldiers and you should know that. It's actually cringe worthy when other countries try to take the credit for stuff the British did. Like Americans taking credit for the world wars when they fought in them for about 5 minutes.
Here's a detail that the video left out. While Admiral (not General) Cockburn wanted a quick attack on Washington, the British Army commander, Gen. Ross, realized his troops had been cooped-up aboard ship for some three months and needed to get their land legs back. So the Royal Navy made several fake attacks up and down Chesapeake Bay while the British Army landed south of Washington.
After a little while, the British Army met the American Army at Bladensburg. The entire American Army was routed and ran away. The Battle of Bladensburg has been called the worst defeat of the American Army EVER.
The defeat of the Americans allowed the British to enter Washington and burn certain public buildings, including the White House. Then, according to their plan, they shot up Baltimore on their way to their winter quarters. There they would await reinforcements expected to arrive in spring, since a huge number of British soldiers were ready to sail from Europe after of the defeat of Napoleon. That's why the British attack on Baltimore only lasted one night --- it was nothing but a drive-by. That's also why the Americans agreed to a peace treaty --- once the British Army and Royal Navy reinforcements arrived from defeating Napoleon, the Americans knew they would get clobbered.
Remember that when you sing about the "rockets' red glare".
Indeed Lt General Robert Ross who haled from Rostrevor in Northern Ireland burned down the Whitehouse (no accident). It is reported he also finished the President's meal which was still on the dining room table. He also borrowed one of the president's newly laundered shirts. Ross (whom I am called after) was my Great grandfather eight times removed. In retaliation the President, in humiliation ordered the American fleet to sail for Rostrevor and raise it to the ground. That is until it was pointed out to him, that the British fleet was the biggest in the world and America would be decimated before it reached Rostrevor. Funny how American history always twists to justify their position. I think Tyler you would do well to spend more time researching subjects before you comment. Having said that, I do enjoy your rants. Just saying.
@@mortgageoptionsni5504 The Battle of Bladensburg is almost forgotten now, especially by Americans, but it was well known throughout the British Empire in the 1800’s.
Here’s one example: In 1870 Colonel Garnet Wolseley led an army of 400 British regular troops and 800 Canadian militiamen to the Red River Settlement to take charge after the transfer of power from the Hudson’s Bay Company. The leader of the Metis’ provisional government, Louis Riel, knew Wolseley was coming and decided to leave the HBC post at Upper Fort Garry (now Winnipeg) before he was lynched by the militia in revenge for the execution of an Orangeman (it’s a long story…).
But before leaving Fort Garry, Riel played a joke on Wolseley. He had a meal laid out on the HBC Chief Factor’s dining room table, with a note saying how Wolseley must be tired after his long journey, and to enjoy his hospitality.
Most wouldn't get Riel's humor, but Wolseley understood how Riel made him the butt of the joke by escaping from right under his nose, and comparing himself to President James Madison who ran from the White House with his dinner still on the table. All the pompous Wolseley could do was make a grand speech to his troops about their great bloodless victory, while Riel slipped away to the States.
Have the heard the song "the war of 1812" by the Arrogant worms? Not many outside of Canada have heard of them but it goes well with this subject. I'm a born and raised Canadian and love your reactions
The “Battle Of New Orleans” victory for the Americans, as personified in the song, actually happened 2 weeks after the war was declared over. The news had not reached that far.
Actually, we burned the Grey House down; the replacement structure became known as the White House simply because it was painted white.
It's a lovely story but, sadly, not true. The White House was so-named because it was constructed using sandstone which was then painted white. It was designed by Irish architect James Hobart and completed in 1800. He based the design on the Irish House of Lords building, Leinster House, in Dublin. It was certainly known as the White House when the British burnt it down in 1814 - at least one contemporaneous newspaper article naming it as such in its report of the event. What is true is that reconstruction began almost immediately, starting with painting over the exterior scorch marks.
@@nicholasrutherford-young5513 Francis Scott Key, gave his slaves to the government for their use, as did many other slave owners so they could get the job done quicker.
To hide the charred wood.
" We " actually didn't burn down shit. Canada wasn't Canada until 1867. The British however did burn it.
@@robertzarb2355 If you want to get specific, Canada wasn't really Canada until 1982.
When the Whitehouse was torched, individuals born to Canada (as it was known even back then) participated; but, yes, under a British flag.
I love you Tyler. Your outlook on these events is SO accurate and I adore watching you learn our history. Our SHARED history 🇺🇸🇨🇦💜. Hold the line, my American friend.
So accurate? Behave.
Cockburn is actually pronounced Coburn, I have cousins in UK with that last name.
It's also the name or a very nice brand of port.
An old family member back in my family history was called Willie Dick
Yup. - Bruce Cockburn .. Pron: Coburn
As a Canadian who has toured the White House, I was impressed how they managed to repair it so well.
I didn't know that either, I knew the British burnt it down in 1812 when America got grand ideas about invading Canada.
It is interesting to see how history is reported depending on who reported. The reasons why America lost the war is because they expected the French to side with them, but since American and British were English, the French did not want to participate. Remember French were more numerous than the English at the time in Canada, that is why they were granted so many things like the french civil code
The French people did not want Canada defeated by the United States, as they felt they would lose their right to practice the Catholics faith. That was a major concern and they did send at least one militia unit to stop a superior American force. I believe there ways 500 French Canadians vs more than 4 times as many Americans
Great Britain calls the American Revolution the American Rebellion.
@@Tomkinsbc Indeed. The Battle of Châteauguay, October 26, 1813.
America didn't lose the war stop lying
More instant communication between the UK & Canada/America happened in the 1800's, when Britain laid the first & second transatlantic telegraph lines/cables across the Atlantic ocean.
But wasn't done until 1858, then Morse Code could be transmitted across the ocean, god knows how long it took to recoup the bill of laying all that cable and the many failed experiments to prevent sea animals like sharks and whales and turtles from chewing up the cable.
The first wireless transatlantic communication also happened in Canada. I think it happened in newfoundland but it was not technically a Canadian province.
@@EndoftheBeginning17 It should have been very costly.
Watching I thought what you kept missing is that Canadians & American’s were all (mostly) British citizens that pulled away from the crowns of Europe after feeling the freedom of a vast new land. My grandmother is 97 & was born in Newfoundland, Canada 🇨🇦 on her birth certificate she is listed a British citizen. Canada wasn’t really Canada until July 1, 1867.
Newfoundland wasn’t part of Canada until 1949
Love the show
You can’t understand the relationship with Canada without understanding the relationship both sides had with the Indian nations. Briton promised them land that was already being settled by Americans and used them as storm troopers in the areas around the Great Lakes. Very complex situation.
These things always are, with every side manipulating whatever resources they can to their advantage.
America had similar tactics, with the Commanche. They would send "Settlers" into Commanche territory and told them they could Settle there, where they would be killed, and then America would retaliate for the Natives killing their -Fodder- Citizens.
The Treaty to end the War (Treaty of Ghent) required America to return all the Native land and goods that had been taken during the War... but America decided to keep it.
@@lokithecat7225 because the natives were defeated and Britain agreed never to arm the natives again
@@TheIceman567 Article 9 of the Treaty of Ghent of 1814, all lands, rights, and privileges restoration of the First Nations as had existed prior to the war were to be restored.
To be accurate both the King, and President had to Restore "The Natives" as Natives fought on both sides... Also, there is nothing about "Not Arming them" in the Treaty, although the Treaty does require the Natives to "Desist" from further hostilities.
But your saying that the Treaty, that was signed after the war, doesn't count because the Natives were "Defeated" during the War?
@@lokithecat7225 Yes, but britain was arming them before the war and never did so after and gave up on the Native Buffer state they had been supporting since 1785’s northwest Indian war. Yes the natives signed the 2nd treaty of Greenville (1814) which they changed sides and declared war in the British this also included the Shawnee’s. Come on man study.
Dinner was served in the White House when the denizens fled in disarray, all candles still lit. The invaders understandably sat down to feast. Perhaps there was too much port at hand, but the place burned down and some yob took credit for it.
More significant in the War of 1812 was the role of Tecumseh, the native Alexander the Great. He led a confederacy of tribes against the Colonies because of their policy of genocide and land theft against the Indians. This guy was so smart that he scared the commander of Fort Detroit into running for it without a shot fired. It's worth reading about Tecumseh. He was your original badass North American.
The term genocide has no place in 19th century history discussions. The term did not exist until 1947 at an international convention on genocide after the Holocaust, and the world agreed then the first true genocide was the Armenian genocide during the Great War, over 100 years after the events we see talking about here. If you are going to use terms with big weigh and significance, you best use them accurately, otherwise your opinions hold no credibility.
And if you really want to have your mind blown, react to "US anthem stolen from British drinking song" by American Heroes channel.
Heh. Key's poem was not meant to be a lyric. And that fact could scarcely be clearer...
@@stevetournay6103 If it was a lyric anyone could sing it.
Hey Tyler! I have a friend who is an U.E.L. (United Empire Loyalist). It's dying out, but it was a title awarded to people who helped the British side in the US during The War of Independence, lost, and needed somewhere to live that wasn't Britain or Australia. 😆 It's a hereditary title, most of them use it for charity work, or historical reenactments, if at all.
Love your enthusiasm with learning about deep history of Canada let alone all the big and small differences between our 2 countries!
I laughed when a friend was in the U.S. and asked for fish and chips to eat, he was actually given "Chips"( bag of potato chips dumped on his plate) and not fries 😂!
like when you order tea down there and they ask you hot or cold?
The way I heard it was that the British army arrived in DC and sent a soldier to the front door. He marched to the door and knocked and after a while it was decided that no one was home. The Canadians were given the task to set the Whitehouse ablaze as the American army had set the Governor General of Canada's house ablaze. The Canadians then asked some of the local African American men if they would like to help. Together they set the Whitehouse ablaze.
No, you are incorrect. There were not even any Canadians who there. Lol. Wherever you heard that story, it was made up
@@safeysmith6720 Technically you are correct as Canada was a colony of Britain until 1867. But there were militia units that were made up of men living in the colony called Canada. Many knew virtually nothing of Europe and infact many of the people living in Upper Canada were loyalists from the United States. Lower Canada was the area of Quebec as it was down river from Upper Canada. After the war of 1812 had ended the people of Upper and Lower Canada referred to themselves as Canadians and not Colonists of Britain. So I will say by technical reason and only by technical reasons you are correct.
@@safeysmith6720 I also read a article about a Canadian Historian of that time frame, she claims that Canadian Troops were not involved with the burning of the Whitehouse , using the defence that Canada was not a nation until 1867 and therefore all the troops in Canada were British. That is how she worded it.
It was not Canadians who burned down the White house in 1812. It was the British. Canada did not become a country until July 1st, 1867.
@@Tomkinsbc This is true. Furthermore, if Canada could claim victory because it was part of the British Empire, then it'd also have to accept defeat from the American Revolution.
Find out where the Mayflower stopped enroute to Plymouth...and when was the first child born in Canada? The white house actually wasn't white when we burnt it as well.
I live in Windsor, Ontario (directly across from Detroit), and I can tell you we still have the house where some important stuff happened (can't specifically remember). I went to an open house through it a few years back to help them fundraiser for it. Learn something new every day!
I’m in Windsor too..is the house in sandwich town or near amherstburg/fort Malden?
I live a few minutes walk from the site of a battle in June 1813 (Stoney Creek) where the American invasion force was repelled, mostly through a series of strange incidents, and two of the American Generals in charge were captured (Winder and Chandler) and later paroled. Winder was later put in charge of the defenses of Washington and was in command when the British attack took place. Another American commander, Zebulon Pike (namesake of Pike's Peak) was killed in the attack on York (Toronto) when the British powder magazine was blown up. It's been said by some historians that the burning of Newark (Niagara-on-the-lake) was retribution for that explosion and that the attack on Washington was largely retribution for Newark.
Yep I Lived in Hamilton that is great place visited many times over the years. Right at the corner of King St. W. and Centennial Parkway in Stoney Creek On. also been to Lundy's Lane in the falls as wells the battle of Queenston Heights where there is the Sir Isaac Brock Monument. We did that is High School as part of our Canadian History class.
My six times great grandfather, Alexander Fraser, took a leading part in the Battle of Stoney Creek in 1812. As a young Scots soldier, he volunteered to lead a night-time charge through the American front lines, bayonetted half a dozen American artillerymen, and then single-handedly captured two American generals. Our family (now dispersed throughout Canada, Britain, the USA, and Spain) visited the battlefield in 2019 to remember the efforts of young Mr Fraser.
@@johnnevada46 I have the book about him, bought it at the re-enactment.
@@robertpearson8798 He had a lot of children after the war and settled in Perth, Ontario.
@@johnnevada46 Yes, I remember from the book.
Think you mean when Britain burnt down the Whitehouse, I've never heard it referred to as when Canadians burnt it down
So for the thick-headed, one last time, the British, French, and 1st nations of a growing Canada burned down the Whitehouse, as an exercise to protect themselves from the manifest destiny and violent "nation-building" of their neighbours to the south. Americans always try to pass it off as an evil British ploy, to salve their egos for being rejected by the northerners.
@@zwhtan FYI I'm English, I'm just saying how I've always heard it
@@tomstorey8559 Sorry - yes. American points of view dominate these subjects, and we Canadians often just pass them by. No offense intended, just a little tired over time of yankee presumption and pandering.
@@zwhtan it's alright from the amount of videos on RUclips and tic tok that shows how bad Americans struggle with basic general knowledge, I sometimes wonder how they function as a country
@@tomstorey8559 Haha
Having a lot of American raised relatives, I can honestly tell you, a lot of it is propoganda/dare we call it indoctrination from schooling in the US. I could give some frightening examples, but don't know if I want to open myself fully to the backlash.
It is said that nobody won the War of 1812, but the Aboriginal people lost.
The country they were promised failed to materialized when the Americans had success late in the war.
From what I've been told, it was the last time they were treated as equal allies in any war.
The Haldimond Tract was granted to the Six Nations, but we then went on and failed to respect it and built a bunch of cities in it. But the Six Nations are still fighting for control of that tract. Check out Land Back Lane.
Look up the "Battle of New Orleans" by Johnny Horton growing up in Halifax, that, and "Barrett's Privateers" by Stan Rogers were staples of our weekend nights listening to the local talent in the pubs!!!
Pretty sure it was a British expeditionary force under general ross
It was
title is just clickbait to trigger Americans
Re: Winter / Spring weather conditions - Even this current year with the Russian invasion of Ukraine is subject to the seasons, the Russian troops were not prepared for war, especially a prolonged one such as this when after doing "training exercises" as part of the build up on the Belarus/Ukraine border, the upper echelons of Russia military didn't want to tip off anyone so that any Russian soldiers who knew Ukrainians could tip them off. What was even worse with spring coming when it did, the frozen ground around the major artery that headed in Kyiv with that 40 tank convoy got stuck in the mud because the land thawed around the highway and made it impossible when some of the tanks were blown up. Russians were cold, hungry, very little training and discipline. Weather was certainly a factor and thankfully, this time it had.
Fun fact: I'm not sure so don't quote me on this but the White House became the White House because they needed to paint the House to cover up all the black smoke/burnt damage it enduring during the War of 1812 and they used the colour White.
Despite what Canadian education taught many it wasn’t Canada that burned down the White House but British Troops, that said given their relationship between Canada and Britain during that period and how some troops settled in Canada after the fact we kind of like to claim that as a shared victory.
Still it’s fun to say and the Canadian military has since earned its badass status even if they aren’t the best equipped or largest force.
Exactly, finally someone who got it right about the British troops!
Well, I'm totally loving this. ❤️ Refreshing my memory whilst being amused... Love it! This Canuck gives two thumbs up! 👍☺️👍
The British burned down the Whitehouse in 1812. Canada became a country on July 1st 1867.
That's why they painted it white. It wasn't entirely white before being burned and I think the tour guides can show you some evidence of the fire that is still there.
The only thing that saved the Whitehouse from complete destruction was that a hurricane rain help put out the fire
You should watch the video on CANZUK which is about the possibility of the countries of Canada United Kingdom and Australia forming a single country or a union however you would describe it and which would make any citizen of any of those countries a citizen of all of them Which would mean you could live work in any of those countries at well whenever you want
As a Canuck who has always wanted to visit New Zealand, that is rather appealing...
Canada became an independant country in 1867, so technically both the Canadians and the British can claim to be responsible for this, as Canada was part of Britan at the time
Not true. Canada gained independent self-government in 1841 when the United Province of Canada was formed. But even after 1867 all state matters: ie declaring war, foreign policy etc were still under Britain’s control until the Statue of Westminster (1931) was adopted by Canada’s parliament in 1932. That is when full independence was effectively/practically achieved, but governmental independence predates confederation by over 25 years.
singing "In 1812 we were just sitting around, minding our own business putting crops into the ground,
when we heard the soldiers coming and we didn't like that sound.
so we took a boat to Washington and burned it to the ground" :)
if you want the whole song look up "The war of 1812 by the Arrogant worms"
The British sent napoleon trained troops over to Washington, the Devonshire regiment was there. A total off 5000 British troops where sent.
They did not take the ship, they took some sailors off the ship and pressed them into service on the british warship.
This Canadian tells this Yank it did not burn down.
You are a nice guy and I just discovered you yesterday. Your videos are very interesting. You are refreshibg my mind in my own history. Thank You my dear friend!😁
Some people in Canada during the War of 1812 were recent arrivals from the US so it was very possible people were fighting their own family members and friends and past neighbours. For instance, my father's family moved from the US into Upper Canada around 1804. As late as 1931 a reunion was held with a number of US residents coming to Canada to participate. If the familial connections held up for over 100 years, you have to think they were pretty strong with a little more or less than a decade passing.
Again, Canada was not a country in 1812. It was the British that burned down the American White house. Canada became a country in July 1st, 1867.
This is the reason why during the Jan 6 insurrection they said that the Capitol walls hadn't been breeched in over 200 years. This was that breech.
Opps nope Canada did not burn the white house they were not with Admiral George Cockburn in charge of the fleet and Major General Robert Ross in charge of the land force this fleet sailed from the UK that ment all the troops were British some were former peninsula War veterans .Dolly Maderson on her husband request had laid out a banquet for the celebration of the defeat of the British but things went slightly wrong she had to flee the white house but before she did she took down the painting of George Washington cut it out of its frame and rolled it up before she left because she knew the British would either capture and remove it as a war trophy or burn it .so when the British troops arrived found the table set and ready with food they had there Owen celebrating meal then as they left on orders from Major General Robert Ross set fire to the house the Amaricans after the war painted the house white to cover up the fire damage a point of interest unlike the Amaricans sacking and burning down of Newark MG Robert Ross gave orders only Goverment buildings were to be burnt iam not sure but I think the white house was the only dwelling to be burnt because it was the Presidents place of residence an official building if it had been the Madersons privet address I dont think it would of been touched during the war of independence privet homes were set alight .you must remember the change in the British army by then they had seen the destruction of Spanish and Portuguese towns and villages and the displacement of the local population also land clearance had begun in Scotland and Ireland also the potato famine and the plage that spread across England from French prisoners held in hulks on the Norfolk broads .this led to alot of Scotish and Irish men joining the army to survive and help there family's do the same so British Officers knew they had to be more cearfull about burning buildings and destroying farms because in the Sctish and Irish regerments it would not go well if they did
That is a rather semantic argument. "Canada didn't burn the white house, the British did"
At that time the concept of "Canada" wasn't really a thing yet. It was just another British Colony, it's people British. The Army and Navy, British. it's rulers, British.
During the war, when the Americans were fighting regular army and navy, they were fighting the *British* Army, and the *British* Navy. Even the local militias at the time considered themselves British. Even the American government, they didn't declare war on Canada, they declared war on *Britain*. In *fact* it wasn't until during and after the war of 1812 that the first glimmerings of 'Canadian identity' started to spring up. (Even then it was just a lose idea along the lines of "Well, we're not exactly British, but we are *defiantly NOT* American.)
The Raid on Washington DC was a direct retaliatory response to the American raid on the Capital of the Canadian colony at the time. During which not only were government building burnt, but so were many civilian homes and farms, acts which went against the rules of civilized warfare at the time.
the point:
It does not matter one it whether you called them British, or Canadian during the war of 1812. as there was no difference between the two yet.
@@waltermc3906 but yet no Canadians in Washington
@@TheIceman567 So my point sailed over your head then.
@@waltermc3906 I get the point but you still can’t claim it because no canadian were in Washington
Most of the troops were French Canadians with some Anglo Canadians so yes Canadians burned down the White house
During War of 1812, the Northern Hemisphere was in the Dalton Minimum, a cold period like the one we are now going into. Europeans relied on beaver fur from North America to make felt hats like the one covering Scotland in the video. They weaponized weather back then too.
Yup! Took a little trip south, burnt down the Whitehouse, had lunch, went home.
Next time we'll put up a Tim Hortons. ;)
Speaking about the affects of weather on battles, pretty sure it was the weather that lead to the American failure to invade Vietnam too. The ground was so wet and loose that it made the logistics of troop and equipment movement nearly impossible. It isn't the kind of old fashioned wildcard you make it sound like. It definitely still affects the outcome modern conflicts too.
Vietnam is more a case of the usual American Military Incompetence.
They had to fake an Attack on their own Ship to convince Congress to let them Invade, and despite "Superior" numbers and equipment they were thrashed so badly they needed to Draft more Soldiers. Eventually they were so desperate for Soldiers they instituted Project 100,000 or "McNamara's Morons" (Wikipedia has a good article about it) which was them lowering Standards (Forest Gump, Full Metal Jacket) to people who were previously deemed "Unfit for Military Service" including Low IQ, Illiterate, as well as Physically Unfit.
For more about US ambitions, please look up the slogans "Manifest Destiny" and 54-40 or fight.
Mm. Ever think about how ridiculously easy that would be for today's USA?
Léo Major a French-Canadian captured the Dutch town of Zwolle by himself during World War II there's a "Simple History" video of it on youtube thats pretty good.
Tyler just an FYI a lot of the Eastern part of Ontario is settled by United Empire Loyalists who were absolutely loyal to Britain. There's even a highway named after them. Hwy#33 is named the Loyalist Parkway.
The burning of the White House was in retaliation which you seemed to have missed when the Americans burned down the Capital of what was then Upper Canda, the city of York, identified in the video as Toronto. You easily missed that part as you focused on the fact that the Americans had a successful attack on Canadian territory. 😃 I suppose they did get their revenge in the Battle of New Orleans!
Ahhhh, but what happened in the battle after New Orleans, you know the one Americans pretend never happened...
Newark, the city burnt down is now a days Niagara not Toronto. Americans like to up play the burning of a city.
It wasn't even a capital of a nation. Where as Washington was lol
Maybe don't invade the North and you can keep your capital
British territory! not Canadian! We became Canada on July 1st 1867.
@@Sinister2022 what was to be Canada started long before 1867, a Canadien identity existed prior to the nation being formed, 1812 was one of those events.
@@CountryLifestyle2023 It was still under British rule
I grew up near where many battles took place, including a nearby fort that was attacked in the war. We learned a lot about the War of 1812 because of this. General Brock and Chief Tecumseh (Teh-Cum-Seh) might be worth a look into for a future video!
Great commentary and as a historian myself, you are bang on about the impact of weather on historical battles. Look up the original meaning of Kamikaze for a very interesting ancient example of a thwarted massive Chinese invasion of a greatly outgunned Japan - due to the weather of course
Just to add to the excellent comment by Nicholas Rutherford-Young.
Preceding the atrocity of burning Newark (now Niagara-On-The-Lake) on December 10, 1813, American General Zebulon Pike landed with his forces west of the City of York (now Toronto) on April 27, 1813 and made his way east to Fort York, on the western edge of the city of York. Realising they were heavily outnumbered, the defenders retreat to the city; but, not before laying a long fuse to the ammunition warehouse at the eastern end of the Fort. Shortly after the Americans entered the Fort, the lit fuse reached the warehouse's interior, which, in turn, caused a massive explosion. As a result, General Pike (Pike's Peak) and many of his forces were killed.
Not adhering to the general practice of merely occupying the area of the general population, the invading forces proceeded to loot the City of York and burn many of the buildings. Instances of rape were also reported.
So outraged by the attack on, and looting of, civilians, the city's militia began to formulate a plan to retaliate. When the Americans attacked and burned the Town of Newark the following December, the York Militia joined the militia from the area around Newark and finalised their revenge. Contrary to the videos' claim that it was folklore, in actual fact, the combined militias marched across land down to Washington, where on August 24 - 25, they 'quickly set fire to “the capitol, including the Senate-house and House of Representation, the Arsenal, the Dock-yard, Treasury, War-office, President's Palace, Ropewalk, and the great bridge across the Potomac. The fires spread and burned some of the houses nearby public buildings."
To make it complete, the British captured Alexandria, Virginia, just down the Potomac River from Washington.
When the US invaded they tried to occupy Toronto which was at this time the location of the capital of Upper Canada. After battling Br. & Canadian troops the Americans withdrew but not before burning the capital buildings. This led to the Br. attacking Washington & burning the White house in response to burnings in Toronto. A side note: the White house fire was not complete but when it was rebuilt it was painted white to cover burn marks hence the White house.
There were no Canadian troops in 1812. They were British soldiers.
(The Francis Scott Key song referenced after the Battle of Baltimore is The Star Spangled Banner)
A great story from the war is that of Laura Secord, a young Canadian woman who made Paul Revere look like a chump by WALKING (as opposed to riding) 20 miles (as opposed to 12 and a half) to warn Canadian militias of an impending American attack. Also unlike Revere, she was successful and didn't get caught.
The Arrogant Worms wrote a song about this, which everyone should experience:
ruclips.net/video/Fsfz3f18NxU/видео.html
Laura Secord was a US citizen. To this day, she is considered a traitor by the USA, so far as I am aware.
There was a border change! Drummond Island on Lake Huron was annexed into the states from Canada. The Metis people who lived there were forced to relocate. They were the ones who, with the British captain Longlade, and 600 Ojibwe, took the garrison Fort Michimilimackinac in northern Michigan.
There was a column of Canadian soldiers that was to meet up with the British marines. The column didn't meet up with British troops so the Brits left. There was plenty of intent among the Canadians as retaliation for the American burning of York, but they just didn't make the rendezvous.
The Storm that drove the British out of Washington just happen to be a Itsy tiny wee TORNADAO. The Battle of York aka Toronto is interesting in that the American had a overwhelming force to the point that the British were going to surrender. One of the last thing they did was blow up their Gun powder reserve so the American forces could not use it. The resulting explosion was so great it cut through the American troops on land killing over 200. The explosion also killed General Pike and Damaged Ships in the bay causing at least one to sink. This Enraged the surviving Americain who went out and burned and Pillaged the town of York. This one event turned the Canadian against the Americains. Until then the View was Taxes to UK or Taxes to US what is the diff. As long as we can live in peace and we can keep our property. Burning kind of went against the idea of living in peace and Pillaging stuff kind of went against keeping our property. This was the point Canadian decided the Americans could not be trusted and it caused them to rally to their own defense.
Canada has universal healthcare but it is not free, it is paid by our taxes. However we don't think twice if we need to see a doctor. You do require a health card and not all procedures are covered but cancer treatments, heart surgery, main issues are covered.
The % of our taxes that we pay for health care is miniscule compared to private insurance paid in the US. Our income taxes of course are also scaled to our income and just about the same as paid in the US.
The weather has always been a big factor in a lot of wars, like WWII, when the Germans fought the Soviet Union and we're advancing well until winter hit, and the Red Army was better equipped in terms of warmer and white camouflage clothing to blend in with the snow.
Also: did you know that part of the Decleration of Independance was written in Montreal? A delegation had come up to Canada to try and convince us to join the Revolution against England, a mission at which they failed miserably. In fact, Benjamin Franklin, who was part of that delegation, notoriously said that it would have been easier to buy Canada than to convince us to join them 😂
As a friend of many of the drunken descendants of the drunken sailors from Halifax who burnt the White House I know they were just in Washington looking for rum. The locals denied them so they went kinda berserk. Lesson learned. British sailors take their daily rum ration seriously.
They went there specifically to burn government buildings they even told them they were coming to do it
Went so far as to tell the citizens they would not burn homes
"Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie" wrote a fun song about the war of 1812 from the Canadian perspective. Worth a listen.
Edit: I, for one, will take the credit. If only to mention it to Americans to aren't taught about that chapter of their history and act all indignant until they look it up. Trolling Americans is a national pastime 😀 (we only troll our friends)
We are actually it depends on what part of the country you’re from.
It's National pass time because its so easy to take the piss out of the Septic tanks
Brilliant.
The only reference about the White House being “ Destroyed” I’ve ever heard was from the original call of duty modern warfare two where general shepherds says something along the lines of “ We rebuilt it, and we can rebuild it again” or something like that
Canada wasn't an official country until 1867 which is why he said that about making this easier
Maybe worth pointing out that Canada wasn't Canada until 1867, so the title doesn't work
Canada did indeed exist in 1812. The Canadas were first formed, with their own governments in the 1790s as Upper and Lower Canada. In fact, the reason the British sacked Washington in 1814 was because in 1813 the Americans did much worse to the capital of Upper Canada, York… now known as Toronto. The latest form of a Canadian government dates to 1867, but it is the 3rd form of government Canada has had, not the first.
It wasn't the Canadians. It was the British Army. Canada wasn't a thing yet.
The fleet that blockaded Washington was sent from England the troops on board were British this means they were English Welsh Scottish Irish and maybe German eather hessian or hanoverians the kings German Legion I'm not really sure about the hanoverians as they were mostly used in today Denmark and Sweden and also the Peninsular War so where the Canadian troops would have come from I'm not sure unless they were used as Scouts but I think the freed slaves who signed up to the British Army would have been more useful at least when the British freed slaves he did not go back on their word not like some Americans Andrew Jackson for one you must remember at this time Britain was in the progress of ending the slave traid out of West Africa later they put a stop to the East African slave trade after 1812 the west African Squadron was reinforced with more ships and men
No. The officers were British with a small British troops. Most of the troops were French Canadians with some Anglo Canadians and natives. So technically Canadians burned down the White house.
Thank you! I have stated that fact throughout these comments. The British definitely! Canada July 1, 1867.🥰
@@garbageday587No, I disagree they were British. Canada was not a country! July 1, 1867.
The fleet that set sail from England would of made its first landfall at Bermuda then sailed North to the Chesapeake so where is Canada oh yes a couple of hundred miles north of the Chesapeake there would be no reason to go that far north when they had troop ships loaded with horse foot and Artillery already where they were needed also how were the Canadian troops to get there when the Amaricans had sunk the Great lakes Squadron of the Royal Navy and the Canadian troops were having a few set backs in the areas they had taken from the Amaricans the front line had come to a stalemate it was the Amphibious attacks at Washington and New York that was the final straw for the Amaricans I will point out that without the Canadian troops pinning down the Amaricans it would of been alot harder to take New York and Washington
You should check out a popular song from the 1950s, which is where I learned about the conflict between Cda & the US. It skips ahead to the 'Battle of New Orleans', the one fought after peace was declared. It's a catchy little ditty sung by Johnny Horton, 1959.
There is still remnants of ships in the Detroit River from the war 1812.
I want you to name all the provinces and territories of Canada, good luck KMSL ♥️🇨🇦🌏 What Olympic year did the Americans walked out with the Canadian flag hung upside down explain that one
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It wasn't the Olympics. It was the US Marine Corps flying the maple leaf upside-down during the Canadian national anthem in the World Series final. Don't worry we took it in stride. We made t-shirts with the flag and "this side up" and won the World Series. Then won the World Series again the next year.
Also it was a group of Newfoundland and Nova Scotia militia that took over the white house. Allowed the first lady at the time to take some paintings off the wall and run. Ate the state dinner prepared for visiting dignitaries. Drank the Presidents booze. Then set the Presidential Residence on fire and left.
Always remember, before the war of 1812 the US presidential residence was grey. After the fire it was renovated and painted white. This is talked about in a scene from The West Wing TV show, where Jed Bartlett points out the section that is still painted grey where the painters missed a spot (its been kept that colour out of tradition). This is why most Canadians in the know have a little laugh every time you call it the "White House".
1996 - The Atlanta Olympics. The color guard unfurled the Canadian flag and flew it upside down.
The fact that this was also done by a different color guard in 1992 at a World Series baseball game demonstrates the ignorance of so many American military personnel and their leaders.
I remember that! Gave us a chuckle here!
Winter and storms still have huge impacts on wars to this day. Very little has changed on that front. Humanity still hasn't conquered the elements to the point of not being affected by them.
I like this delivery! He's absolutely gobsmacked by every fact.
Check out the Canadians during WWI and WWII. It's interesting.
It would be pointless to burn down 24 Sussex Drive (the official residence of the Canadian PM), because it isn't fit for human occupation. OTOH, with the time and money spent on fixing it (still ongoing), burning it down could be a blessing in disguise. Maybe a ninja drone for Trudeau, too. 🙂
Dude, I just discovered your channel! Greetings from Montreal. Bring on the Canadian Content. I can' wait!
the british burned the whitehouse in 1814 not canada canada was not a country in 1814 canada officially became a country on july 1st 1867 this happened 53 years before canada officially became a country
Another problem with the slow communication is the Battle of New Orleans which was fought after the Treaty of Paris was signed ending the War of 1812
Funny thing at the white house there is a large board that says the history of the building but that part is missed. Also before Canada burned the white house it was grey but they only had enough white to paint over the burn marks.
There was an American army in the area but they had to decide what to protect. They chose to protect Boston so the British met no resistence entering Washington. The General in charge was very specific that only government buildings were to be burned, that privately owned buildings were to be left alone
Regarding important information traveling by post before phones its the reason there is an old law still in effect that a postman cannot be stopped by the police and they can drive through red lights, etc. Because in the old days they did not want to interfere with a declaration of war or peace getting to its final destination as quickly as possible.
Strange! I learned this in Yr 5 at my English junior prep. My grandsons (aged 9-12) have already learned this at their schools in N Vancouver BC, Nairobi, and in Queensland Aust.!!
British text to America "what's up?"
America "New country, who dis?"