The Talos Principle (Zero Punctuation)
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This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Talos Principle.
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Игры
5:09
Random documents and audio logs
We find them stuck to notice boards
We find them under dogs
We're gonna put them in a file and give it a review
And we're bored of all the gameplay, but we've got nothing else to do
*THUD*
Well done.
Adam Davies Thanks
David Botelho I actually typed all of that, but never mind :(
That is somewhat sadder....
Adam Davies Sadder? Sadder then what?
When I first heard the name I honestly thought The Talos Principle is another Skyrim DLC.
that happened to me too :))
I was quite confused by the cat on the steam cover of the game, but never thought about skyrim tbh^^
*tried to go into the tower* never should've come here.
Sneezee Burgg I would play the shit out that. Especially if I can lock pick into people's houses and wake them up with the inviting word of Talos.
new dlc confirmed
3:50 there was actually a part of Talos Principle where i finished all the puzzles in an area and a hologram started running toward me using the exact same sound byte as a headless kamikaze. There hadn't been anything else like it in the game and the fact that the level looked exactly like one of the later ones from serious sam 3 certainly aided in bringing on a PTSD-inspired episode.
idk about you, considering how out of place that was it was literally the scariest thing thats ever happened to me in a video game
I basically shit my pants when that happened. It was like one of those jump scare videos except it was in the middle of a 20+ hour game.
The VR version of the talos principle has the same thing, and in VR it scared the shit out of me.
WTF where was that?? I don't remember that at all...... Granted I don't know what those kamikaze things sound like, but.
Bruh I played through that area a few days ago... Holy shit
Be sure to stay or skip through to the end for a little extra bit to this episode.
Please play Planetside 2.
I beg you.
Ivan Ivanov Yahtzee can't hear you.
Worth it!
it puts the cherry on the cake :)
lol
Debating philosophy with a computer and solving logic puzzles?
10/10, would play again.
Debating the AI was the best part. I wish it lasted longer.
Isn't that portal?
@@hakenbacker debating relies on dialog which in turn relies on 2 people speaking, whereas the protagonist of Portal games - Chell - cannot even speak. So there's that
@@danny.nedelk0 I got genuinely angry at him at times, it felt so much like a youtube comment argument. By the end I hated his guts and it was so satisfying to cause him to lose his shit, dropping the "holier and wiser than thou" attitude he'd been flaunting and exposing him for the fraud he is, forcing him to resort to childishly repeating the same message because he couldn't think of anything better.
10/10 would get involved in a heated debate with a fictional AI again.
@@ethanlivemere1162 when a game can make you angry by making you think an AI actually managed to expose your flawed ideals, and manages to make you not notice that the problem actually is your limited dialogue options designed to always result in some fallacy the AI can latch on to, it's doing something right.
The box on robot mechanic is explained in a fairly early map with a non-moving mine with a box on its head. I saw it and immediately thought "Oh, that works? Cool!"
I hate this feeling of something obvious and fairly easy to find in a game gets ignored by a reviewer.
IIRC, that puzzle is actually in that same section as the other puzzle that requires you to place the box in the moving mine. Which means if you do one puzzle first, the solution is easy, but if you happen to do the other one first, the solution is unintuitive. Since there's no indication for what puzzle to do first in any given section, I feel like that was a bit of an oversight
@@trmn8tr3737 I think that's kind of the point. IIRC Elohim even tells you that if you're struggling with a puzzle, walk away and try some others, and the solution may present itself. That's what I did with that part, starting with the unintuitive level and was confused, went to the other one and had the "aha!" moment. Was actually quite satisfying.
@@AlphaMc111 I think this "no tutorial" approach was actually quite refreshing, making me explore the possibilities. An example was this level where there were maybe 5 bombs running around really tightly, called "handful of mines" or something similar. Only way I found a solution was to bring a jammer and a hexahedron from another level where I could bring them over walls (for some of the more complicated stars, I think), and disable a mine from outside the level. Not really sure it was meant to be done that way, but I did :D
@@wombat4191 that solution is totally in the spirit of the game, think outside the box. If you know what you are doing you can cheese so many puzzles, but as said, totally in the mindset of the game.
5:08
Oh goodie, they kept that!
"Random documents and audio logs,
We find them stuck to notice boards, we find them under dogs,
We're gonna put them in a file and give it to review,
And we're bored of all the gameplay but we've nothing left to do!"
I want that as another ZP ringtone now. >.>
It's "when", not "and". We're going to review the documents WHEN we're bored of the rest of the game.
3:20
Holy shit, was that a fade-in effect? On a Zero Punctuation video?
Have I found a glitch?
_Random documents and audio logs:_
_We find them stuck to notice boards,_
_We find them under dogs._
_We're gonna put them in a file_
_And give it a review_
_When we're bored of all the gameplay,_
_But we've nothing else to do._
*_thud_*
10/10 Best Lyrics Ever.
Ben Ward The *thud* at the end really brings it all together.
When your drunk dad finished beating your mother and is now enjoying his Mirror's Edge in peace
It's absolutely, positively wonderful how you lead us on until the end when you actually admit to enjoying the game. Good show.
First review of the year and he likes it? Must be his resolution.
yeah but, the game is last year's.
Bolek Lolek eh, who cares?
Bolek Lolek stop being all technical and logical n shit man. this was good moment until
YATZHEE = BANANA CONFIRMED
HaloAndMinecraftFtw Wasn't that confirmed years ago? xD
Can we just give Yahtzee his own singing show?
it would have more views than judging by the cover....
a true musical masterpiece
I kinda want his "Winkeh, winkeh!" line as a ringtone, but i daresay the people around me on the bus would raise an eyebrow...
This video makes you FEEL like random documents and audio logs
The game actually makes you find quite a bit of stars to fully understand whats going on. For those of you who are too lazy to read all the logs or are simply sick of the game but still can't quite comprehend it.
SPOILER ALERT:
The logs are from the final days of humanity. A virus that was frozen away in some sort of permafrost has been released due to global warming, has wiped out all of the chimpansees and is rapidly mutating and infecting humans. In a last ditch effort to save civilisation (and not humanity) a massive AI simulation is created in the last efforts by a team of researchers. You are a single simulation in that program. Your parameters are randomised and you are being tested. Not only to your logical skills (aka puzzle solving) but also the ability to think for yourself. Thus ELOHIM guides you throughout the game but warns you to never go to the tower. Arguably, someone who blindly listens to an unknown voice in the sky but with amazing problem solving skills is just a very efficient machine, following orders. Thus, listening to elohim procs the first ending. A failed simulation. Your parameters are reset and randomised and you start again from the beginning and thus a new simulation with a different version of you begins (storywise, its still exactly the same game). However, should you choose to defy elohim and reach the top of the tower even after various warnings not to, you have proven to have the ability to think for yourself, hence a succesful experiment. The simulation ends and you are released from the computer to enter the real world.
Thanks for writing this out. I don't really remember, but I feel like I put this story together from only the non-optional puzzles (and my incredible intuitive skills lol).
There are also parts of it that don't really fit together, tbh. Like, why is the simulation set in serious sam world instead of, say, blank corridors? Why is the guide so starkly Christian-themed? And the real answer is: because it's a video game and it had to be interesting to real humans. But it doesn't make a lot of sense in the fiction of the world.
why is name of this game greek (and the architecture), but ELOHIM "אלוהים" means god (not god's name) in hebrew
@@terner1234 why is the name of the game spelled TΛLΘS as though it's supposed to be pronounced "TLLTHS"
@@terner1234 ahenm, did you miss the last 1500 years? greeks are super christian and they were the first big powerful christisn nation
@@terner1234 also the architecture is mostly roman then egyptian then western christian
A game as intelligently reflective as it is philosophically educational and self aware of it's intellectual puzzles regarding the mysteries of existence, The Talos Principle is certain to take the player on an intrinsic journey through his own existential nature. I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt that this is one of the greatest video games of all time; not just for its stellar graphics and appeasing soundtrack, but also for its thought-provoking story.
Speaking of soundtrack, I just can't get enough of that main menu/cathedral music.
Bit long though, the puzzles can be obnoxiously unintuitive and completion requirements are an arse
Maybe it’s because I’m going for 100% but world C has sone bullshit requirements and the stars are so vague
Why the hell fo I need to know details of the Apollo missions to solve a puzzle that does make any sense in world and even less when the clue requires a third party QR scanner to even access
It’s too clever for its own good and I haven’t even finished it (easy ending requirements done currently scaling the tower to get the last star and on floor 4)
@@jmurray1110skill issue.
@@olivercharles2930 more of an attention issue
It’s just goes on a bit too long
3:20 Dissolve transition? In my Zero Punctuation?
No thank you SIR
Random documents and audio logs
We find them stuck to notice boards we find them under dogs
We're gonna put them in a file and give it a review
And we're bored of all the gameplay but we've nothing else to
gtfo
It's "when" we're bored, not "and" we're bored. Take out the song element and you'll see that makes more sense - we're going to review the documents WHEN we're bored of the rest of the game.
The thing about the box on top of the mines is kind of a good point, but some puzzles start with the boxes on the mines earlier in the game, so you're expected to remember that.
ALL TOGETHER NOW: "Random documents and audio logs, we find them stuck to notice boards, we find them under dogs, we're going to put them in a file and give t a review... and we're bored of all the gameplay but we've nothing else to do!"
One of the DLCs is the voice of Serious Sam as ELOHIM and you should pick it up because it's genuinely worth the couple bucks.
The DLC of this game is honestly one of the tightest shit ever 10/10 would debate philosophy and shitpost with a bunch of rejected robots
"Random documents and audio logs/
We find them stuck to notice boards - we find them under dogs/
We're gonna put them in a file, and give them a review/
And we're bored of all the gameplay but we've nothing else to do!"
*THUNK*
It's "when" we're bored, not "and" we're bored. You see, we will give it a review WHEN we're bored of the gameplay but have nothing else to do.
TALOS BE PRAISED oh wait wrong game.
Today, I am going to play my favorite game. Watching one of these episodes without sound or context.
So, Talos is your favourite game? Well, if so, you might like Lord Temin's Fortress. In many ways it's just as good.
3:21 Why fade cut instead of jump cut?
***** He couldve chosen the wrong "cut option", or he could be fucking with us, that dastardly Yahtzee
yeah, i noticed too because it was so jarring
He uses Microsoft Photo Story (I think he said) to make ZP. So it's entirely likely that he accidentally misclicked a wrong button in that photo, resulting in the cross fade. He's made errors in the past with frames that went missing or were held too long before, but this is the first I've seen of a random transition.
***** It's more of a cross-dissolve which dates back to 1903. The more you know.
Zachary Erickson Windows Movie Maker (Which is what Yahtzee makes these with) can perform fades like that easily. I used to use it all the time.
Even after so many years, i still can't help but laugh at the "Serious sam redirecting balls into eyesockets sentence"
'random documents and audio logs, we find them stuck to notice boards and find them underdogs, we're gonna put them in a file and give it to review and we're bored of all the gambling but we've nothing else to do!'
Holy shit that sounds like something I'd actually sing while editing...
gameplay, not gambling
That goddamn song at the end killed me. I'm gonna download this shit as an MP3, cut out every single nanosecond that isn't the song, and make it my mofockin' RINGTONE
this video has some of my favorite lines in it, two of them are right next to each other. and the third is part of a song.... thank you yatzee thank you
That _thunk_ at the end of his song gets me every fucking time
That little ending bit was AWESOME!!!! (the one with Yahtzee being drunk and leaning on a file-cabinet while singing.)
The drop at the end made me break out laughing.
It took me AGES to figure out the random documents and audio logs song. It goes,
"Random documents and audio logs
We find them stuck to notice boards, we find them under dogs
We're going to put them in a file and give it a review
WHEN we're bored of all the gameplay but we've nothing else to do!"
That last "when" had me hung up for ages, I thought it might be "and", but you see, if you take away the song element, "when" is the only conjunction that makes sense: we're going to review the documents /when/ we're bored of the gameplay but have nothing else to do.
4:43 It's not an MS-DOS prompt! The game has real Linux terminals through which you can execute real Linux programs.
Know your terminals, man.
Really? Is there a sudo or can you edit important game data? That wouldn't like it could be fun but also impossible to predict as a game developer what the end user will do to break it.
And this was the first Zero Punctuation video I saw, a fan ever since.
I love these videos
I never really play any games, but I still really enjoy your videos.
Wow, you sure do put out a lot of videos that no one watches
MCHellshit Which is a shame, you'd think hawt girls in latex inspired by Tron would get a whole lot more views. Like, seriously, they are fucking HAWT.
Downsider24 dafuq?
MCHellshit It's too bad, really. He's got some good vids on there.
MCHellshit One of his videos has over 300 thousand views...
Claps along in time to the 'random documents and audio logs' song.
That drinking song at the end was pure gold. Well done sir.
Only discovered these Zero Punctuation videos yesterday. Haven't stopped watching them!! :D Awesome work guys, and very original way to review
I did like Talos principle. All three endings achieved, though I admit I turned to the internet for some of the stars. Those stars were absolutely obtuse sometimes. The red herring was so convincing I was completely blinded to the solution for over an hour.
Ryan Hoffman i got all the stars alone except for the third one. finished the game in like 10 hrs with all the stars. the dlc took me another 10 hrs because the stars were harder. i keep replaying the game because i love it so much.
Talos is a great game, but I too had to turn to the internet. Another game that's just as good, which doesn't need internet help, is Lord Temin's Fortress. So if you like Talos, I recommend it.
@@fortressoffearchina Yea 80% of the stars are well done but some of them are more obtuse than clever.
10 for everything
That’s insane I have 23 and I’m still scaling the tower
Every now and again I watch this again, just to skip to the end and listen to that fabulous bit of music.
I fucking love this game so much.
Totally addicted to the random documents song. Cant get it out of my head and dont want to either
I loved that little ditty in the closing. :)
finally played this and quickly became one of my all-time favorites
I like to call myself a pretty large fan of zero punctuation because I have seen all of them and love them, and because of that I absolutely shat my pants when there was a fade instead of a cut for the first time ever. I actually had to look back to see if I was seeing that correct.
That end song was amazing lol
that last few seconds added on the end is priceless
That song at the end was brilliant. I
I loved the little jig you did in the end, 2000 points to the man with the beer in his hands!
There is also DLC where Serious Sam is ELOHEIM. It's actually quite good and he does a great job narrating about free will.
loving the song at the end
The ending is my fave. Lol
1:21 yeah My parents did that to me every Christmas. I have fond memories of untangling a single strand while screeching I AM NOT A NUMBER! at the top of my six year old lungs. Good Times.
Man I love that song at the end
What a nice little song at the end.
Love the song at the end. Awesome.
i can't believe 'random documents and audio logs' made a return after 225 episodes and almost 4 and a half years from its introduction in this episode
i needed to know what episode it was, so i legit went to the zp wiki and counted out 225 episodes forward to figure it out. i wish you'd just said observation.
@@ZachCG you also could have just asked me lol
@@hnglbanana i didn't think a motherfucker from 3 years ago would respond quickly or at all!
@@ZachCG does one ever truly leave this hellsite?
He rewards us at the end with a jug, you see. Yahtzee knows how to reach his audience.
Not even kidding I'm pretty sure Yahtzee's thud at the very end of this video is literally the only sound effect in the whole series
5:09
Random documents and audio logs
We find them stuck to notice boards, we find them under dogs
We're gonna put them in a file and give it a review
And we're bored of all the gameplay, but we've nothing else to do!
*Thunk!*
3:22 nice softshift it was very calming
My brain immediately goes to Skyrim whenever I see “Talos”
the end song really spoke to me
Dear Escapist magazine,
Please make that a downloadable ringtone.
I fucking love that ending... just. yes.
i like the game because there’s a kitty
I keep coming back here just for the post-credits scene.
8/8 for that last bit. Nailed the high note!
I was all prepared to say this review actually rehashed elements from others a bit too much, but too brand new things saved it. 3:21 WAS THAT A FADE? And of course, the awesome bit at the end.
Okay, that was an awesome little ditty
What happened to "lets all laugh at an industry which never learns anything tee hee hee"?
That only really happens when releases are slow and he has nothing to review.
I do miss that jingle though
David Mobeck I made it my ringtone
dontwanttogetaname Where!, how! and how much!!!!!!!!
SonicShot55 So basically, Januaries?
Love the Earthbound reference!!
I really like your new look on these vids
And so a legend was born. _Random documents and audio logs, we find them stuck to noticeboards we find them under dogs_
Let's Play help me remember that game: you start off in a deserted world with a broke down robot in a hut, she tells you to go get stuff from a trashed theme park, and then you do colorful block puzzles. I cant remember what it was called please help.
@@Nov-5062 it was alot like talos, very minimal puzzle game with pretty good 3d graphics
I like your showing of myst for first person puzzles, that game was awesome
Games like Myst and Zork Nemesis are classics. I think Talos Principle is a classic too. If you like Myst and Zork though, I would recommend Lord Temin's Fortress. It's utterly stunning,
I think there were more clues than you gave it credit for. I found out the bomb trolley thing BT getting frustrated running round aimlessly and then trying to drip a box on the thing that kept blowing me up.
The placement of the stars on the start signboard appeared to give a clue as to where the star might be near. Clues in the area names like moonshot. Wasn't expecting that one.
I found this game rewarded human curiosity and perseverance even one of the achievements says exactly that. I googled two in all. The rest were down to something i didn't spot or brain tiredness and coming back after a break they seemed obvious.
Like I even went back and checked a video I'd taken to see if a ladder I'd sworn Wasn't there before was. It was. I just walked past it 30 times without noticing.
Really liked this game.
Appreciated your humour as well
Driest comment ever. Sorry
*tiger appears!*
“Got any ham?”
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VERY GRATING, I AGREE
That song is going to be in my head for some time now...
that last bit was great
I kinda had a feeling he would like this game... It so rarely happens however that I sorta pushed the idea out of my head. Glad you liked it yahtzee!
I'm sorry, but the flaming rubik's cube with the switchblade yelling "LET'S DANCE MOTHERFUCKER" made me laugh way more than it should have.
Three years later and I did not ever notice that transition at 3:25.
Sir, you just earned yourself a subscriber with 3:00. When I was playing the puzzle in the Ancient Egypt Map that had you jump on top of the "bleeping explod-y death balls" I nearly punched my computer because I was so annoyed! I spent, probably 45 minutes trying to sneak around and block the wankers with the boxes! It even had the audacity to patronize me by saying something like, "You've been trying this puzzle for a long time, it is OK to take a brake and come back later." Your review of this game is spot on and I agree with just about every word of it so great job! P.S. to whoever actually read my whole comment then congratulations, you get a gold star.
Thanks for the gold star! They are hard earned in Talos! It's a great game to be sure, but the stars are a bit too difficult to get without help online. Some games like this are too easy, like Portal, or too difficult like The Witness. The best game like this recently is Lord Temin's Fortress, which strikes the perfect balance. Excellent game!
That last bit was more than epic.......
and with that ender you have convinced me to stay till after the credits from now on!!!
@ 3:20 Did i just see a slideshow transition??? Yahtzee's getting pretty daring!
Glad to see you liked it
I love the end song
Probably my GOTY for 2015 (the year I played it)
+steven vogel Same
Also, full of easter eggs, and secrets, I never knew.
It was my game of the year too and has stayed number one until recently. Right now, my GOTY is Lord Temin's Fortress, which is not 'elevated' or 'deep' like Talos, but is sophisticated and beautiful and seriously engaging to play.
The connection to Serious Sam 3's engine in Talos Principle is so major, that on the screen on my keyboard, the applet it launches when I start Talos Princple up is explicitly called Serious Sam 3.
Really good game, though.
yay more funny post credits gag!
I really enjoyed this game. If you like puzzlers, you should definitely give this a try.
Was that a blend transition at 3:21! T His is the first time I think I ever seen him use a transition before lol
4:06
My favorite part.