The sounds for that puzzle in Myst is actually explained in Achenar's room in the Mechanical Age. The problem is many people get intrigued by the spaceship and go to the Selinitic Age before the Mechanical Age and then you have to do trial and error to complete it.
@@gameranxTV CAN ANYONE HELP ME??? IDK WHAT THE GAME WAS CALLED BUT, it was suppose to release either 201/2020/2021 and was delayed basically the same month it was gonna coke out I think it was august. The art was extremely Interesting and the gameplay was of the character hunting like weird creatures and they said the game was delayed because of the controversial depiction of the native enemies. If anyone knows the name of the game plz let me know. Do you know the name of this game
I’m 35 and work over 40 hours a week, if within a few minutes a game puzzle is clearly going to take too much time. I RUclips it. I don’t have the time or patience anymore and honestly don’t care. I hate puzzles in games. They are second only to one hit kills in terms of horribly designed things.
Don't know if this one counts but for me it is one of the mounts in WoW. In german it is called the Lucider Albtraum, a black unicorn. If I remember correctly the mount wasn't even announced offically until some player found the data in the gamefiles. The mount is locked behind a series of ridiculous puzzles like secret notes u have to find, a labyrinth, a code, some kind of light the lights to get a geometric pattern and I don't know what else. It's not like every puzzle in this was very hard but there are so many puzzles and riddles u have to solve that it is a hundred percent chance that there will be one that is extremly difficult for u just because of the variety. It took me days even with a guide. But it was well worth it. I am not playing WoW anymore but every time I got this mount by roulette I was proud as heck. :D
I was actually headed straight to the comments to suggest that one as well. Without an online guide it really would be impossible to get to the random generated maze but after you do all the guide stuff you are essentially left to your own devices to do it
Must say this one was hard... But the puzzle that made me use an addon was the rune puzzle to get the Hivemind... This secret mounts, pets (I hate you chubby hell cat) and transmogs in WoW are something else...
In what world are Romeo and Juliet, King Lear, Macbeth, Hamlet and Othello "obscure" Shakespeare plays? They're some of the most well known of Shakespeare's works. Most people would be exposed to them in highschool if they did basic humanities.
Yeah a lot of people were exposed to it but no one wanted to do homework on it. In my school we just did the sonnets and modern versions of some of the stories. I did enjoy the sonnets.
Um, you know, there are quite a few countries in this world where Shakespeare is reserved for scholars. Sure, the name is known, but that's pretty much it.
Lufia II's puzzles were really amazing for the time as no one expected SNES RPGs to have such technical, brain teasing puzzles, but good lord Dragon Mountains puzzles with the bushes and The World's Most Difficult trick were in a league of their own. Glad to see that puzzle get some recognition here.
I am very proud to say, I solved the Talos Principle all by myself. But there is some kind of mechanic in the game that is absolutely not intuitive and does not get explained. Since it's been so long I do not remember it clearly either anymore *BUT* -> inside Gehenna there is a level where you need to connect the lasers by somehow "safing" them if that makes sense. You must safe them for the "laser-turret" you carry around. Until that point in time I played the entire game without that mechanic. Yeah... that was wierd. 🙃
The problem with Talos principle is that some star puzzles can't be done by thinking only. You might have to look at the internet, or try out random movements until finding the right one. And when you get stuck on a puzzle, there is no way to know if you can solve it by thinking or if you can't. It's an excellent game regardless but I couldn't really appreciate fully the hard puzzles because when I got stuck there was always this little voice in my head telling me "this might be a dumbass solution where you have to jump everywhere or maybe even worse"
I googled A3 star, Messenger star and B4 star. I also feel like all three of them broke some rules set by the game. Still, Talos Principle remains my favorite game. Some of the community mods are also incredible, and generally up the difficulty even more. If you liked Talos and Gehenna, then I strongly suggest giving Abomination, Abomination 2, Rebirth and The Fourth Dimension a try.
Me too! Excluding that bullshit QR Code nonsense - I was a dinosaur back in 2014 and didn't have a smart phone yet and had no idea I was supposed to use one to decode it!
The day Skyrim released, overwhelmed with hype when I got to bleak falls barrow I completely didn’t see the answer above the gate for the longest time so I googled it, realizing it was so simple 😅
I knew the subway puzzle in Myst would be on the list, trial and error got me through that back in the day. Tunic had some tricky puzzles throughout the game but the very last one when you go from the Glyph Tower to an actual website and need a good understanding of the in game language of Runic was very hard. I'd love a Tunc sequel.
Tunic was a masterpiece. The addition of the in-game language really gave it what it needed to stand above the rest of the games in the same genre. Slowly figuring out what symbols meant what and which pages referred to what items/areas brought back some of the wonder of first getting into games.
Wow, honestly I expected the marbles from Riven to be a lot higher in this list, the only puzzle that really, truly stumped me. Can't believe there's games with even harder ones than that. Mind kinda blown. But the Myst Selenetic Age gets a LOT easier if you go to the Mechanical Age first, the sounds are well explained there.
@@justintaverniers4887 you don't really know that at first, but I do get that the spaceship is intriguing. I accidentally got to the Mechanical Age first since it's kind of the first thing you see when you get off the docks.
Tunics Mountain Door (Golden Path) is one of the craziest and hardest puzzles to solve. By connecting all pages and finding all golden paths to then figuring out the secret code with all 50 strings is insane and one of the most rewarding puzzles ever made.
My favorite kind of game is the kind that looks like a kiddy game, but actually turns out to be very in-depth. I'm still trying to go through Tunic, but I'm glad I'm almost done.
Recently went through OOT without a guide and got to the Water Temple before needing it. I realized the singular portion that matters most is going down when you raise the water level. It specifically shows the camera pan UP and pulls your focus up with doors and a gold skulltula and this misdirect happens only again in this dungeon. Mix this with needing to stand against the wall to activate the water change system and its honestly just minor game design choices that can make an entire dungeon seem impossible just for an overly well done misdirect.
@jrrr9219 The comment you're replying to literally explained why it isn't that hard, but you still felt the need to act like Billy Big Brains on the internet. Well done, champ. You solved a puzzle in a video game.
The damned billy goat in ireland in the original Broken Sword gave me and my parents trouble originally. It was such a different solution to any other puzzle in the game!
I just finished playing The Ezio collection of AC recently, and I have to say that some of the later puzzles like the number wheels in Brotherhood gave me tons of frustration.
Honourable mention: “Remnant: From the Ashes” had some very obscure puzzle sequences for special rewards. Luckily for me I joined a random co-op game back in the day with someone super friendly and we had a lot of fun playing together so they ended up showing me all the secrets 😄✌️
Some of the secret loots in Remnant are straight up sadism, Labyrinth armor, Carapace armor, the rng stages for certain weapons and rings, etc. Not to mention the amount of luck and perseverence required to get all of it....it was draining, but getting the rewards feels so good.
Remnant was unfortunately so buggy and weirdly designed, that I kinda gave up when I played with some friends back then. Progress was session-bound, so your own character was kinda worthless if you stopped playing together, couldn't use npc's at the same time, a simple disconnect meant running through the entire map again and again and again, because the servers kept kicking someone out and one of the upgrades to make leveling easier is at the very end of the game. An end of the game where the boss doesn't respond to the tactic that is supposed to take him down and so we just completely gave up on the game after like 2 days of trying. Which is a shame, because I did kinda enjoy covering for my friends as a sniper and discovering cool builds together, but then you get boss-specific drops that differ, because bosses differ and you can't go and do these yourself unless you play the entire game up to that point again... Just felt like a lot of wasted potential.
Bonus points to when I made one of the Pokemon games hard on myself by selling the TM (not HM in that game) Flash. I wandered through the completely dark cave for at least an hour.
Honestly shocked "The Goat Puzzle" wasn't on this list. Despite the game being ancient at this point, people still talk about how absurd that puzzle from Broken Sword was.
I feel like they made another video with the goat puzzle in it cause that is how I learned about it. They may have had a whole video dedicated just to it but it was a few years ago I think
The puzzle in Knights of the Old Republic on Tatooine, where the guy was trapped by his very angry wife reprogramming his battle droids to explode if he moved. Three of the four were not too tough, but there was the one that was not solved mathematically, but rather with a verbal trick. It just made me roll my eyes when I looked it up.
Shoutout to most of the puzzles in Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, ESPECIALLY the puzzles in the super-dungeon at the end of Nenio's companion quest.
Love that Witness was first on the list, because that was one of the puzzle games I remember most fondly. Just coming home from work, playing on a PS3 I bought with my very first self-earned money and taking pictures with my phone to try and solve stuff during downtime at work. I'll add that the most frustrating puzzles for me, are the Guild Wars 2 jumping "puzzles". Not only do they vastly differ in what you're required to do, but the engine is clearly not meant for precise platforming, so more often than not you have to trial and error a jump, die, start over and keep doing that for 8 hours until you get enough lucky jumps chained to finish the thing. Or just pay some purple man to teleport you across the room.
Destiny 2 had three super complex puzzles that no sane person would try to do without a guide. The Black Armory DLC (season 5), added the "Niobe Labs" where 3 players had to shoot a long sequence of symbols that were invisible unless you aimed with a specific weapon. The world first completion was supposed to unlock the Bergusia Forge activity for all players, but it took so long for people to figure it out that Bungie just unlocked the forge a day later. The Joker's Wild DLC (season 6) added the "Zero Hour" mission where players had 20 minutes to navigate a trap-filled gauntlet and a hidden vault in the ruins of the old tower, then fight a boss. In the vault there were 7 rooms each with 7 terminals that had to be activated in a specific order which was extremely difficult to decipher (an online tool was made for it). It could only be done on the hard mode with a longer gauntlet and before you could even do this puzzle, you needed to find four hidden items across the gauntlet and make it there with enough time left to complete the puzzle. The solutions were also different depending on which terminal you had to activate first and you had to do it 49 times to get the final reward. FORTY-NINE TIMES! The Season of Dawn (season 9) added the "Corridors of Time" where players had to solve 19 sequences of 7 to unlock 19 lore pages, and one sequence of 11 to get an emblem and exotic weapon. The emblem + exotic puzzle was brute-forced but was later solved properly, and they just gave out the exotic for free a week later. Corridors of Time was removed with season 10, and Niobe Labs and Zero Hour were removed from the game with season 12.
As someone making an open world puzzle game, this was really interesting to watch. Having a few really challenging puzzles for the selected few is a must!
i prefer keeping it straight to the point and not use puzzles. problem solving should be based on your reaction to your observation of a situation. take it from someone who is a strategic run and gun first person shooter player coming from two big name games. doom and call of duty. fun fact is i hate puzzles cause their is really no valuable gains from it especially in combat or racing and even sports. most of my skills were learned by studying actual online players move sets and their strategies. though i do wish you good luck on it. just dont be upset if you get bad reviews. puzzle games these days arent popular compared to likes of big names such as call of duty or even gran turismo(specifically building your car to match the class your in). hence the name strategy.
@@jackmagnium6115 keep in mind that you're just one person in the plethora of people playing games. As a game designer it is hard to conform to any specific person when it comes to game play, you might hate puzzles and figuring out a solution but some people play games ONLY to do that. You have the impossible task of pleasing as many people as you can. The best mechanics require some thought to figure out and implement. There isn't any one way of doing things and no matter what you do, some people aren't gonna get it. The term "puzzles" doesn't exactly mean "a scenario to solve" like a jigsaw puzzle. If someone can build a set of instructions that you intuitively solve then that is also a puzzle. Keeping the consumer involved while you play the game is the goal of every game producer. Sometimes you have to wrack your mind for a solution, other times it's natural. Finding that balance is the goal of any game creators. Saying "I hate puzzles" helps nobody, because you've solved puzzles without even thinking about it. It's the puzzles that aren't intuitive and "too hard" that turn people off from certain games.
I do enjoy the game a lot, but one thing I don't like about comedic puzzle games like that are how laterally you have to consider all the tools at your disposal for a solution. Like I want the solution to make sense, not be some dumb, awkward way of using an item just for the comedy of it.
What made "Return to scenic pond" awesome is that it's the exact same level as "scenic pond", except for one free space at the edge of the field, which provided just enough wiggle room to make the level just about possible to solve, even though it was really, really hard. And then they take that one field away. The edge is fenced up neatly. The field that made solving the level just barely possible is gone.
An honorable mention is Dishonored 2's "Jindosh Lock" riddle. It's a riddle where each playthrough randomizes the solution, so you have to work out the answer each time. The riddle: At the dinner party were Lady Winslow, Doctor Marcolla, Countess Contee, Madam Natsiou, and Baroness Finch. The women sat in a row. They all wore different colors and [character] wore a jaunty [color] hat. [Character] was at the far left, next to the guest wearing a [color] jacket. The lady in [color] sat left of someone in [color]. I remember that [color] outfit because the woman spilled her [drink] all over it. The traveler from [city] was dressed entirely in [color]. When one of the dinner guests bragged about her [heirloom], the woman next to her said they were finer in [city], where she lived. So [character] showed off a prized [heirloom], at which the lady from [city] scoffed, saying it was no match for her [heirloom]. Someone else carried a valuable [heirloom] and when she saw it, the visitor from [city] next to her almost spilled her neighbor's [drink]. [Character] raised her [drink] in toast. The lady from [city], full of [drink], jumped up onto the table falling onto the guest in the center seat, spilling the poor woman's [drink]. Then [character] captivated them all with a story about her wild youth in [city]. In the morning there were four heirlooms under the table: [heirloom], [heirloom], [heirloom], and [heirloom]. But who owned each?
The water puzzle on the original Onimusha I remember that being an all day thing where I got frustrated and took a break because I couldn't figure it out.
If part 2 is going to be created, some of the secrets in World of Warcraft took years to be discovered and are absolutely worth it to be checked out. Great video!
@@vycanismajoris6871 right? It sucks that they don't even have the older version available to download on PSN or Game Pass. That was the first really hard game I had ever played. I thought I was a pro because I could beat RE and RE2 on hard so I popped in PE2 and was like whoa, this game isn't fucking around lol
I spent 5 hours on the secondary puzzle of Rime. It is a open world game where it basically requires point blank puzzle skills and even the third level is the worst because you practically go in a loop
This one is old but on Alundra for ps1, you get to this dungeon with moveable ice pillars. They slide across the room until they hit a wall or object and you have to get them all on these plates to unlock a door. No Google when I was a kid so yeah it was pushing ice for hours. It sounds easy but trust me......
I played the remaster of myst on game pass and when I got to the underground cart puzzle, I ended up taking pencil and paper and mapping out all the possible directions and dead ends in order to solve it. It’s the hardest puzzle in the game, not by being well thought out but by pure tediousness.
Oh man, I remember the feeling when I finally solved the Riven marble puzzle as a tween, so satisfying! I had an entire notebook full of written notes and clues for the various puzzles in that game. Also, as a minor correction, the Elemental Workshop III quest doesn't exist in OSRS, it's an RS3 exclusive quest.
I actually solved the shipwreck puzzle in the witness without any guide, it was honestly a good puzzle for the people who solved everything else and wanted one last challenge. On the contrary, the maze with the gravel puzzle stumped me because I didn't have my headphones on at the time.
The Eyes of Ara is an indie 3D puzzle game that had a lot of challenging head-scratchers, but the concentric ring puzzle in the cellar was the worst (or best) of them.
A couple I remember having to pull up Google Breath of the Wild Constellation puzzle. Felt like an idiot Astral Chains Traffic Control 3. Painful slide puzzle Onimusha. It was a slide puzzle, but with a timer that resulted in game over. Annoying place to put the checkpoint. Unsighted. 2d Zelda like. There was an optional dungeon with a slide the blocks on the ice that had me stumped hard.
Stuff like the one in Fez genuinely piss me off. If a puzzle or challenge is so unfathomably obscure that solving it organically (or even finding it sometimes) is basically not possible, that's just garbage design at work. It's even worse when the thing is so badly designed that even WITH a guide many people never get it anyway...Like if the only way to solve something is to know ahead of time how to solve it, you failed at your puzzle design.
@@rileybazan9747 I can't remember which one I mean, I just remember it really pis*in* me off to the point where I RUclips the answer, it was a circle that had segments that spun and you could make the segment go out / in etc...hard to describe, but it didn't half do my head in. I remember when it was done it still looked wrong. I remember I actually solved the supposedly harder one with planets / shadows without much of a problem..
Apparently no other runescape players here so I will correct you, the elemental workshop 3 puzzle is in both versions of the game(OSRS and RS3) and just as frustrating in either one.
The first 2 Monkey Island had a few which you could spend hours on going back forth, just knowing there is something your missing. It's like you know what needs to happen but you just can't work out how to go about it. No google then as well.
I am the developer of a puzzle game, only 3 people have finished it in a year and the person that took the least amount of movies to do so took 200059 moves to finish 50 levels. The name of the game is "Box: The Game".
The statue puzzle before the Master Sword in Twilight Princess. Tried it for like a minute, quickly noticed that I'm never gonna solve this on my own and looked up a video for the solution.
I'm surprised Hellblade isn't here. That game was notorious for being stuffed with ridiculously obnoxious and daunting puzzles (yes I know they were made with the intention of replicating aspects of psychosis but still) . The game itself felt like a puzzle to me with the amount of times I had to look up how to reach a certain area or cross a bridge after I got lost or stuck because there's no map, the environment looks pretty much the same everywhere and you can only see most paths from a certain angle. If you view it from a different angle, it'll show up as a dead end.
Back in my day, “walkthroughs” found on the “internet” was called “ask your friends and if they don’t know, tough luck”. There are more than a few Sierra and Lucas Arts games I never finished because I couldn’t figure out some obscure part of a puzzle and my parents wouldn’t drive me to Babbage’s to buy the hint book.
There’s an easier way to determine colors in Riven. There’s a puzzle that gives you the whale sound in an underwater lab, and you sit in a chair and press 6 buttons to turn the viewer. Each button has a color symbol on it, and each time you press it you get a color (except once but process of elimination). Past that, each dome flashes its color symbol when you stop it spinning.
I didn't have too much trouble with the sound puzzles in The Witness, you can brute force them anyway. It was the damn Tetris shapes that caused me the most grief. Never really quite grasped the rules. Missed a trick with a rhyme here though: "Can't do a list like this without Myst"
9:45 Another honorable mention for Runescape would be the quest "Mourning's End Part II". Even with a guide the light puzzle took me hours to do. You're basically hopping between multiple floors, redirecting beams of light. It doesn't sound bad like that but it was painful.
I would actually consider Silent Hill 3's crematorium puzzle to be worse. The Shakespeare puzzle is at least solvable with the information given, even if it's a bit obtuse, but the crematorium puzzle has a double whammy. The first is that one of the clues seems to point to the wrong body. The clue involves the phrase 'eating and eating, whether he was hungry or full', and one of the bodies (the owl) is identified as having had an eating disorder. But this body and its respective number aren't part of the actual solution and it's supposed to map to the linnet, which is identified as having been cruel and greedy, not gluttonous. If you can make sense of that, then the second issue is that you're supposed to arrange the numbers you get 'from heaven to hell', so highest number to lowest on the keypad. That's actually pretty easy to figure out... except that *this line isn't in the localized poem*, so you can have all four correct numbers but the clue telling you what order they're supposed to be in is just plain missing, so you could be trying the obvious solution (to put them in the order that the clues were given) and never know what you're doing wrong. The love letter one also has a mapping issue where apparently there was a miscommunication between the puzzle designers and the graphics team that resulted in the keypad inputs effectively being upside-down relative to the poem. You can still suss out the final solution by misreading the poem in the proper way -- and there is a line of logic to support the misreading -- but it's not how it was supposed to go. SH3's puzzles are already pretty obtuse, but the riddles being inadvertently wrong doesn't do them any favors.
I'm a huge fan of puzzle games, so seeing The Talos Principle, Myst, and Riven in here (as far as I've watched), is wonderful. Definitely some of my favourite games of all time, although Soulslikes and story-driven shooters tend to be my tops. Regarding the mine maze in Myst's Selenitic Age, the sounds are the same as the rotating fortress in the Mechanical Age, so you've got some help there. Although doing them in a different order to how I did it is perfectly possible: I couldn't even get into the Selenitic Age for a year or two (I started the games in 2010) because some of the sliders in the rocket ship to get into the Age just didn't sound right to me. So I was getting the combination wrong for a long time.
Playing Runescape while you talk about a puzzle in Runescape was quite a weird surprise to me since Runescape isn't generally talked about much outside the community haha. However, regarding the puzzle in Elemental Workshop 3, I didn't actually have that much trouble with it, or at the very least as much as everyone else. I solved it relatively quickly compared to my brother and now I know the rest of us scapers lmao. I never knew it was supposed to be so hard, I didn't even use a tutorial. (Also, you mentioned barely responding to inputs, I think you may misunderstand that the game runs on a tick system of 0.6s per tick, but it could be made much worse with internet issues, so I do see your point).
I never understood the witness puzzles after 2 areas. I finished the game following a guide and still didn't learn a thing. The last puzzle I just randomly did things and eventually it worked. But understanding the story is impossible imo, even with all the audio logs. I don't mind being dumb, I'm used to it at this point. 🤣
The ending of Divinity Original Sin 2. My favorite game of the last decade, al least right until you get to the end. The game has very few puzzles, and compared to what you are thrown into near the final boss they may as well not exist. You're expected to look down into a room, discern which side of the room is the "start" and which is the "finish", figure out that it wants you to do is navigate the 3 braziers of goop to fall into a maze and you get to turn all the tubes the get them to pour one side to the other. Oh, also one of the braziers is empty. If you haven't used a necromancer, which almost no one will do on their first playthrough, you may have no clue that blood is an element that you can modify in the first place. The missing brazier needs you to create a pool of blood, then cast bless on it to transform it into a different type of blood. Also, there is a grate nearby in the floor as you're overlooking the puzzle area. You're expected to make pools of blood over the grate, cast bless, THEN attempt to solve the puzzle after the fact. It's literally a puzzle to unlock the actual puzzle. You don't need a necromancer to solve the puzzle as you can use an elf's cannibalize ability, or just remove someone's armor and physically attack them a few times. But seriously if you haven't played as a necromancer up to this point there's almost no chance you would know you could manipulate blood as an element because no other class really makes use of it. The second puzzle after is actually kinda fun once you know how it all works, but on a first playthrough, I would wager that less than 0.05% of players actually solved this from start to finish without popping over to the internet for help. This actually ends up throwing you into another puzzle right after, with infinite spawning enemies that can release deathfog traps until you pull levers to spell out a specific word with the starting letter of each lever. Are there clues to this word? No idea, but because you had to look up the previous puzzles, most people are immediately going to just look this puzzle up as well.
"Return of the scenic pond" 100% deserves its spot here, as hard as Baba is You is, that level somehow pushed it to the extreme. It doesn't utilise ant hidden trickery or things you haven't seen before, it's just so convoluted and technical that you're unlikley to solve it without systematically going through every possible action you can take
Anyone remember 7th Guest? A puzzle filled game but the toughest thing in there, imho, was the microscope game. I think the setup of the game and its rules provide a huge advantage for going second, which the player can't do. It was hard but i loved playing it. I had a save game reserved so i could go back and play it over and over.
Wild Arms 2, it goes from RPG the whole game to one random segment where it decides it wants to be a puzzle game. I had to wait years for the internet to have the answer in order to continue the game!
The sounds for that puzzle in Myst is actually explained in Achenar's room in the Mechanical Age. The problem is many people get intrigued by the spaceship and go to the Selinitic Age before the Mechanical Age and then you have to do trial and error to complete it.
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I only know this cause the original was my first PC game
When I completed Myst I didn't have access to the internet at all. That and Riven were such challenges since I couldn't google anything LMAO.
@@gameranxTV CAN ANYONE HELP ME??? IDK WHAT THE GAME WAS CALLED BUT, it was suppose to release either 201/2020/2021 and was delayed basically the same month it was gonna coke out I think it was august. The art was extremely Interesting and the gameplay was of the character hunting like weird creatures and they said the game was delayed because of the controversial depiction of the native enemies. If anyone knows the name of the game plz let me know. Do you know the name of this game
@@teancumpusey3406 I went to my local library and checked out the official Myst guidebook to cheat. 😁
I’m 35 and work over 40 hours a week, if within a few minutes a game puzzle is clearly going to take too much time. I RUclips it. I don’t have the time or patience anymore and honestly don’t care. I hate puzzles in games. They are second only to one hit kills in terms of horribly designed things.
I so agree, they spoil some otherwise excellent games.
For real, though. Got no time.
If I’m not playing a puzzle game I don’t wanna do any puzzles
Facts. Ruins the pacing sometimes especially when you're making good progress and then have to spend time tryna get thru something gated by a puzzle
Agreed
Don't know if this one counts but for me it is one of the mounts in WoW. In german it is called the Lucider Albtraum, a black unicorn. If I remember correctly the mount wasn't even announced offically until some player found the data in the gamefiles. The mount is locked behind a series of ridiculous puzzles like secret notes u have to find, a labyrinth, a code, some kind of light the lights to get a geometric pattern and I don't know what else. It's not like every puzzle in this was very hard but there are so many puzzles and riddles u have to solve that it is a hundred percent chance that there will be one that is extremly difficult for u just because of the variety. It took me days even with a guide. But it was well worth it. I am not playing WoW anymore but every time I got this mount by roulette I was proud as heck. :D
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I was actually headed straight to the comments to suggest that one as well. Without an online guide it really would be impossible to get to the random generated maze but after you do all the guide stuff you are essentially left to your own devices to do it
Must say this one was hard... But the puzzle that made me use an addon was the rune puzzle to get the Hivemind... This secret mounts, pets (I hate you chubby hell cat) and transmogs in WoW are something else...
In what world are Romeo and Juliet, King Lear, Macbeth, Hamlet and Othello "obscure" Shakespeare plays?
They're some of the most well known of Shakespeare's works. Most people would be exposed to them in highschool if they did basic humanities.
Yeah a lot of people were exposed to it but no one wanted to do homework on it. In my school we just did the sonnets and modern versions of some of the stories. I did enjoy the sonnets.
Um, you know, there are quite a few countries in this world where Shakespeare is reserved for scholars. Sure, the name is known, but that's pretty much it.
0:29 The Witness is an awesome game. Made incredibly difficult for me due to my super rare form of colorblindness :(
If you 100% the Witness while colourblind or even beat it for that matter, you are a legend
Lufia II's puzzles were really amazing for the time as no one expected SNES RPGs to have such technical, brain teasing puzzles, but good lord Dragon Mountains puzzles with the bushes and The World's Most Difficult trick were in a league of their own. Glad to see that puzzle get some recognition here.
I am very proud to say, I solved the Talos Principle all by myself.
But there is some kind of mechanic in the game that is absolutely not intuitive and does not get explained.
Since it's been so long I do not remember it clearly either anymore *BUT* -> inside Gehenna there is a level where you need to connect the lasers by somehow "safing" them if that makes sense.
You must safe them for the "laser-turret" you carry around. Until that point in time I played the entire game without that mechanic. Yeah... that was wierd. 🙃
The problem with Talos principle is that some star puzzles can't be done by thinking only. You might have to look at the internet, or try out random movements until finding the right one. And when you get stuck on a puzzle, there is no way to know if you can solve it by thinking or if you can't. It's an excellent game regardless but I couldn't really appreciate fully the hard puzzles because when I got stuck there was always this little voice in my head telling me "this might be a dumbass solution where you have to jump everywhere or maybe even worse"
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Ooooh yeah - the stars!! Yeah for those I used google but all the trials I solved without looking for guides.
Are you sure you solved the Star puzzles all by yourself?
I googled A3 star, Messenger star and B4 star. I also feel like all three of them broke some rules set by the game. Still, Talos Principle remains my favorite game. Some of the community mods are also incredible, and generally up the difficulty even more. If you liked Talos and Gehenna, then I strongly suggest giving Abomination, Abomination 2, Rebirth and The Fourth Dimension a try.
Me too! Excluding that bullshit QR Code nonsense - I was a dinosaur back in 2014 and didn't have a smart phone yet and had no idea I was supposed to use one to decode it!
The day Skyrim released, overwhelmed with hype when I got to bleak falls barrow I completely didn’t see the answer above the gate for the longest time so I googled it, realizing it was so simple 😅
Lol same dudev
Me not realizing the dragon claws showed the code on them and having to either Google each door or trial and error for almost a year of playing >.>
heads up: Elemental Workshop 3 is only on Runescape 3, not on OSRS
dont stop it from beeing a pain to do hehe
I knew the subway puzzle in Myst would be on the list, trial and error got me through that back in the day.
Tunic had some tricky puzzles throughout the game but the very last one when you go from the Glyph Tower to an actual website and need a good understanding of the in game language of Runic was very hard.
I'd love a Tunc sequel.
Tunic was a masterpiece. The addition of the in-game language really gave it what it needed to stand above the rest of the games in the same genre. Slowly figuring out what symbols meant what and which pages referred to what items/areas brought back some of the wonder of first getting into games.
The piano puzzle in The original Silent Hill kicked my ass for years until I was old enough to be allowed on the internet 😂😂😂
Slient Hill is more fucked up than the internet
Wow, honestly I expected the marbles from Riven to be a lot higher in this list, the only puzzle that really, truly stumped me. Can't believe there's games with even harder ones than that. Mind kinda blown.
But the Myst Selenetic Age gets a LOT easier if you go to the Mechanical Age first, the sounds are well explained there.
Absolutely. I always went to the mechanical age before the selenetic age. Helps out a ton knowing the correct sounds for the directions
True, but it never feels logical to play the mechanical age first. Since chronologically, this was the last age the brothers lived in.
@@justintaverniers4887 you don't really know that at first, but I do get that the spaceship is intriguing. I accidentally got to the Mechanical Age first since it's kind of the first thing you see when you get off the docks.
Tunics Mountain Door (Golden Path) is one of the craziest and hardest puzzles to solve. By connecting all pages and finding all golden paths to then figuring out the secret code with all 50 strings is insane and one of the most rewarding puzzles ever made.
My favorite kind of game is the kind that looks like a kiddy game, but actually turns out to be very in-depth. I'm still trying to go through Tunic, but I'm glad I'm almost done.
I was gonna mention this until I saw this post
god i loved that puzzle, and all the puzzles in that game
Recently went through OOT without a guide and got to the Water Temple before needing it. I realized the singular portion that matters most is going down when you raise the water level. It specifically shows the camera pan UP and pulls your focus up with doors and a gold skulltula and this misdirect happens only again in this dungeon. Mix this with needing to stand against the wall to activate the water change system and its honestly just minor game design choices that can make an entire dungeon seem impossible just for an overly well done misdirect.
@jrrr9219 The comment you're replying to literally explained why it isn't that hard, but you still felt the need to act like Billy Big Brains on the internet. Well done, champ. You solved a puzzle in a video game.
The damned billy goat in ireland in the original Broken Sword gave me and my parents trouble originally. It was such a different solution to any other puzzle in the game!
I spent £1.50 a minute ringing a cheat line for help with that bloody goat!!!!
😂😂😂
I just finished playing The Ezio collection of AC recently, and I have to say that some of the later puzzles like the number wheels in Brotherhood gave me tons of frustration.
Honourable mention: “Remnant: From the Ashes” had some very obscure puzzle sequences for special rewards. Luckily for me I joined a random co-op game back in the day with someone super friendly and we had a lot of fun playing together so they ended up showing me all the secrets 😄✌️
I remember you! Roust here 😁👍
Some of the secret loots in Remnant are straight up sadism, Labyrinth armor, Carapace armor, the rng stages for certain weapons and rings, etc.
Not to mention the amount of luck and perseverence required to get all of it....it was draining, but getting the rewards feels so good.
Remnant was unfortunately so buggy and weirdly designed, that I kinda gave up when I played with some friends back then.
Progress was session-bound, so your own character was kinda worthless if you stopped playing together, couldn't use npc's at the same time, a simple disconnect meant running through the entire map again and again and again, because the servers kept kicking someone out and one of the upgrades to make leveling easier is at the very end of the game. An end of the game where the boss doesn't respond to the tactic that is supposed to take him down and so we just completely gave up on the game after like 2 days of trying.
Which is a shame, because I did kinda enjoy covering for my friends as a sniper and discovering cool builds together, but then you get boss-specific drops that differ, because bosses differ and you can't go and do these yourself unless you play the entire game up to that point again...
Just felt like a lot of wasted potential.
Ah, yes. Remnant.
Or as I like to call it:
"Underrated: Why are so many sleeping on this game"
@@catburglar82 right?? It’s one of my favourite hidden gems I’ve always been so happy I found.
Bonus points to when I made one of the Pokemon games hard on myself by selling the TM (not HM in that game) Flash. I wandered through the completely dark cave for at least an hour.
Honestly shocked "The Goat Puzzle" wasn't on this list. Despite the game being ancient at this point, people still talk about how absurd that puzzle from Broken Sword was.
I know, right? When somebody mentions hardest puzzle or insane solution to a puzzle, my mind automatically goes to the goat puzzle.
I feel like they made another video with the goat puzzle in it cause that is how I learned about it. They may have had a whole video dedicated just to it but it was a few years ago I think
Came here looking for it, I was stuck on it for a full year, those days without internet guides 😶
I got the subway puzzle in Myst fairly easily. It was the spaceship keyboard puzzle that frustrated me to no end
Imagine trying to solve that puzzle but you’re deaf and you don’t even know there’s supposed to be sounds I swear game devs don’t think sometimes
The puzzle in Knights of the Old Republic on Tatooine, where the guy was trapped by his very angry wife reprogramming his battle droids to explode if he moved. Three of the four were not too tough, but there was the one that was not solved mathematically, but rather with a verbal trick. It just made me roll my eyes when I looked it up.
Shoutout to most of the puzzles in Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, ESPECIALLY the puzzles in the super-dungeon at the end of Nenio's companion quest.
Love that Witness was first on the list, because that was one of the puzzle games I remember most fondly. Just coming home from work, playing on a PS3 I bought with my very first self-earned money and taking pictures with my phone to try and solve stuff during downtime at work.
I'll add that the most frustrating puzzles for me, are the Guild Wars 2 jumping "puzzles". Not only do they vastly differ in what you're required to do, but the engine is clearly not meant for precise platforming, so more often than not you have to trial and error a jump, die, start over and keep doing that for 8 hours until you get enough lucky jumps chained to finish the thing.
Or just pay some purple man to teleport you across the room.
Destiny 2 had three super complex puzzles that no sane person would try to do without a guide.
The Black Armory DLC (season 5), added the "Niobe Labs" where 3 players had to shoot a long sequence of symbols that were invisible unless you aimed with a specific weapon. The world first completion was supposed to unlock the Bergusia Forge activity for all players, but it took so long for people to figure it out that Bungie just unlocked the forge a day later.
The Joker's Wild DLC (season 6) added the "Zero Hour" mission where players had 20 minutes to navigate a trap-filled gauntlet and a hidden vault in the ruins of the old tower, then fight a boss. In the vault there were 7 rooms each with 7 terminals that had to be activated in a specific order which was extremely difficult to decipher (an online tool was made for it). It could only be done on the hard mode with a longer gauntlet and before you could even do this puzzle, you needed to find four hidden items across the gauntlet and make it there with enough time left to complete the puzzle. The solutions were also different depending on which terminal you had to activate first and you had to do it 49 times to get the final reward. FORTY-NINE TIMES!
The Season of Dawn (season 9) added the "Corridors of Time" where players had to solve 19 sequences of 7 to unlock 19 lore pages, and one sequence of 11 to get an emblem and exotic weapon. The emblem + exotic puzzle was brute-forced but was later solved properly, and they just gave out the exotic for free a week later.
Corridors of Time was removed with season 10, and Niobe Labs and Zero Hour were removed from the game with season 12.
I was just gonna say Destiny 2 haha, and I was simply going to point to the Last Wish. These sound way worse.
I'd love to see more puzzle difficulty options in games. I really want to hate playing the game like on SH3
As someone making an open world puzzle game, this was really interesting to watch. Having a few really challenging puzzles for the selected few is a must!
Best of luck.
Oh yeah an optional really hard one is always fun to have in it. Just make sure the user is aware of the optional part.
i prefer keeping it straight to the point and not use puzzles. problem solving should be based on your reaction to your observation of a situation. take it from someone who is a strategic run and gun first person shooter player coming from two big name games. doom and call of duty. fun fact is i hate puzzles cause their is really no valuable gains from it especially in combat or racing and even sports. most of my skills were learned by studying actual online players move sets and their strategies. though i do wish you good luck on it. just dont be upset if you get bad reviews. puzzle games these days arent popular compared to likes of big names such as call of duty or even gran turismo(specifically building your car to match the class your in). hence the name strategy.
@@jackmagnium6115 keep in mind that you're just one person in the plethora of people playing games. As a game designer it is hard to conform to any specific person when it comes to game play, you might hate puzzles and figuring out a solution but some people play games ONLY to do that. You have the impossible task of pleasing as many people as you can. The best mechanics require some thought to figure out and implement.
There isn't any one way of doing things and no matter what you do, some people aren't gonna get it. The term "puzzles" doesn't exactly mean "a scenario to solve" like a jigsaw puzzle. If someone can build a set of instructions that you intuitively solve then that is also a puzzle. Keeping the consumer involved while you play the game is the goal of every game producer. Sometimes you have to wrack your mind for a solution, other times it's natural. Finding that balance is the goal of any game creators.
Saying "I hate puzzles" helps nobody, because you've solved puzzles without even thinking about it. It's the puzzles that aren't intuitive and "too hard" that turn people off from certain games.
Sir, i am interested
Some of the later puzzles in Grim Fandango were pretty hard as a kid, and other older adventure games
I do enjoy the game a lot, but one thing I don't like about comedic puzzle games like that are how laterally you have to consider all the tools at your disposal for a solution. Like I want the solution to make sense, not be some dumb, awkward way of using an item just for the comedy of it.
@@JamesLovesGames118 Yeah, a quite a few lucas art adventure games were like that. Plus Grim Fandango had clunky controls
What made "Return to scenic pond" awesome is that it's the exact same level as "scenic pond", except for one free space at the edge of the field, which provided just enough wiggle room to make the level just about possible to solve, even though it was really, really hard. And then they take that one field away. The edge is fenced up neatly. The field that made solving the level just barely possible is gone.
I solved the Myst subway puzzle by making a map. I didn't recognize the sounds as significant...
An honorable mention is Dishonored 2's "Jindosh Lock" riddle.
It's a riddle where each playthrough randomizes the solution, so you have to work out the answer each time.
The riddle:
At the dinner party were Lady Winslow, Doctor Marcolla, Countess Contee, Madam Natsiou, and Baroness Finch.
The women sat in a row. They all wore different colors and [character] wore a jaunty [color] hat. [Character] was at the far left, next to the guest wearing a [color] jacket. The lady in [color] sat left of someone in [color]. I remember that [color] outfit because the woman spilled her [drink] all over it. The traveler from [city] was dressed entirely in [color]. When one of the dinner guests bragged about her [heirloom], the woman next to her said they were finer in [city], where she lived.
So [character] showed off a prized [heirloom], at which the lady from [city] scoffed, saying it was no match for her [heirloom]. Someone else carried a valuable [heirloom] and when she saw it, the visitor from [city] next to her almost spilled her neighbor's [drink]. [Character] raised her [drink] in toast. The lady from [city], full of [drink], jumped up onto the table falling onto the guest in the center seat, spilling the poor woman's [drink]. Then [character] captivated them all with a story about her wild youth in [city].
In the morning there were four heirlooms under the table: [heirloom], [heirloom], [heirloom], and [heirloom].
But who owned each?
The water puzzle on the original Onimusha I remember that being an all day thing where I got frustrated and took a break because I couldn't figure it out.
I remember beating it when I was 10 I think when the game first released. The game was creepy so I had dad do the boss fights. Fun game
Guardians Of The Galaxy level with the repeating paths in smoke. Legit gave up and googled it.
That god damn tourniquet puzzle in Silent Hill 2!!! Took me ages to solve it back in the day and I will always remember it.
as of this video coming out elemental workshop 3 isnt in old school runescape the questline only goes to elemental workshop 2.
it is in runescape 3
If part 2 is going to be created, some of the secrets in World of Warcraft took years to be discovered and are absolutely worth it to be checked out. Great video!
I remember the sliding picture puzzle in Parasite Eve 2 being one of the hardest puzzles i ever came across as a kid
One of the best classic games that needs some kind of remake/remaster. Legend of dragoon also! :D
@@vycanismajoris6871 right? It sucks that they don't even have the older version available to download on PSN or Game Pass. That was the first really hard game I had ever played. I thought I was a pro because I could beat RE and RE2 on hard so I popped in PE2 and was like whoa, this game isn't fucking around lol
I spent 5 hours on the secondary puzzle of Rime. It is a open world game where it basically requires point blank puzzle skills and even the third level is the worst because you practically go in a loop
Rime was such a beautiful game. But I agree some puzzles are a bit random
I played myst completely till the end on my sega saturn, but it was soooo hard, and back then there was no google to look for the puzzle.
I am very satisfied to see Elemental Workshop included on this list haha it is well deserved.
This one is old but on Alundra for ps1, you get to this dungeon with moveable ice pillars. They slide across the room until they hit a wall or object and you have to get them all on these plates to unlock a door. No Google when I was a kid so yeah it was pushing ice for hours. It sounds easy but trust me......
Alundra's so good!
@@craigmarsh7448 Mine too. Best Zelda like game that's not a Zelda ever. Even better than some Zelda games IMO. So underrated
@@jsullivan2112 Its a gem for sure!
I played the remaster of myst on game pass and when I got to the underground cart puzzle, I ended up taking pencil and paper and mapping out all the possible directions and dead ends in order to solve it. It’s the hardest puzzle in the game, not by being well thought out but by pure tediousness.
I spent hours on that one lmfao. had to end up doing the same as you said.
And finding a dead end was the worst LMAO
When I saw it on the Xbox I downloaded it immediately. Such a fun game
Oh man, I remember the feeling when I finally solved the Riven marble puzzle as a tween, so satisfying! I had an entire notebook full of written notes and clues for the various puzzles in that game. Also, as a minor correction, the Elemental Workshop III quest doesn't exist in OSRS, it's an RS3 exclusive quest.
I actually solved the shipwreck puzzle in the witness without any guide, it was honestly a good puzzle for the people who solved everything else and wanted one last challenge. On the contrary, the maze with the gravel puzzle stumped me because I didn't have my headphones on at the time.
Exactly! I've been playing this game quietly with the audio off. Only to find out, the sounds in it actually mean something. Oh my gosh!. Nevermind
The Eyes of Ara is an indie 3D puzzle game that had a lot of challenging head-scratchers, but the concentric ring puzzle in the cellar was the worst (or best) of them.
I hated water sample test from old Resident Evil 3.
The puzzles in all the resident evil games are pretty hard. The water puzzle was awful though
That puzzle is pure PTSD. Saving the hardest for last.
You forgot Filament, one the most brutal puzzle games I ever saw.
If you solve all puzzles in this game without googling it you're a fricking genius.
Some of the puzzles in Jedi fallen order really stumped me.
How?! I breezed through them ezpz.
@@kingbrit4583 I’m not the smartest man haha
I'm so glad The Talos Principle was in the video. Such an underrated Masterpiece.
Gorogoa.
Yes
Marquee has some great puzzles too especially one where you have to shrink and enlarge a key to a door.
Superliminal.
"Good luck solving a puzzle that barely responds to your inputs."
Runescape veterans: SKILL ISSUE
This comes out just as I complete the hidden cappy mission in fallout 4 that I definitely didn’t google for help ;)
;)
I accidentally solved that puzzle in Talos Principle in my first playthrough, but it did take like 30 minutes to get there... worth it!
The famous water puzzle in resident evil 3 nemesis could be on the list too
That one was hard too...but not that hard
Man dude I love just listening to Falcon speak. His voice soothes me.
A couple I remember having to pull up Google
Breath of the Wild Constellation puzzle. Felt like an idiot
Astral Chains Traffic Control 3. Painful slide puzzle
Onimusha. It was a slide puzzle, but with a timer that resulted in game over. Annoying place to put the checkpoint.
Unsighted. 2d Zelda like. There was an optional dungeon with a slide the blocks on the ice that had me stumped hard.
I remember the onimusha one. It was almost the last level too which made it more annoying
Anyone that mentions astral chain gets me excited lol. That game was so creative and completely slept on.
Machinarium has pretty challenging puzzles that I had to look up
You guys should definitely do more puzzle videos. I loved watching this.
👍🏼 Will do. thanks
Stuff like the one in Fez genuinely piss me off. If a puzzle or challenge is so unfathomably obscure that solving it organically (or even finding it sometimes) is basically not possible, that's just garbage design at work. It's even worse when the thing is so badly designed that even WITH a guide many people never get it anyway...Like if the only way to solve something is to know ahead of time how to solve it, you failed at your puzzle design.
I can honestly say I never googled any of these puzzles….. I haven’t played any of these games before, but my point still stands
Love The Talos Principle coverage!
That Uncharted 3 wall puzzle is the worst for me lol. 🤷🏽♂️
I think I know which one you mean, didn't even look right when completed..did my head in..other than the silly puzzles the uncharted games were epic.
which one was that, the one with the lamp you pointed at the wall?
@@rileybazan9747 I can't remember which one I mean, I just remember it really pis*in* me off to the point where I RUclips the answer, it was a circle that had segments that spun and you could make the segment go out / in etc...hard to describe, but it didn't half do my head in. I remember when it was done it still looked wrong.
I remember I actually solved the supposedly harder one with planets / shadows without much of a problem..
@@rileybazan9747 yeah bro lmao
@@mickyb.8014 need a guide to complete the puzzle to this day lol
Apparently no other runescape players here so I will correct you, the elemental workshop 3 puzzle is in both versions of the game(OSRS and RS3) and just as frustrating in either one.
It actually doesn't exist in OSRS.
The first 2 Monkey Island had a few which you could spend hours on going back forth, just knowing there is something your missing. It's like you know what needs to happen but you just can't work out how to go about it. No google then as well.
I almost beat MI2 without hints, except for the monkey one because of lost info in translation (the clue is a pun that only work in English)
When I think hard puzzles I'm just reminded of shadowgate
I’m actually kinda surprised that the quantum moon and the ash twin project from outer wilds didn’t make it to this list
Still a great list tho!
Spoiling Outer Wilds? And the ash twin project in particular? That's a sin ! ;)
@@nhiko999 spoiler alert saves it! I mean, this video is assuming we already WENT through it haha 😂
I am the developer of a puzzle game, only 3 people have finished it in a year and the person that took the least amount of movies to do so took 200059 moves to finish 50 levels.
The name of the game is "Box: The Game".
👍🏼
The statue puzzle before the Master Sword in Twilight Princess. Tried it for like a minute, quickly noticed that I'm never gonna solve this on my own and looked up a video for the solution.
That's literally me for every portal 2 puzzle that I can't figure out within 2 minutes lol
I actually solved that one on my own!
That one was easy. I struggled with the quests cuz I couldn't remember the names
I'm surprised Hellblade isn't here. That game was notorious for being stuffed with ridiculously obnoxious and daunting puzzles (yes I know they were made with the intention of replicating aspects of psychosis but still) . The game itself felt like a puzzle to me with the amount of times I had to look up how to reach a certain area or cross a bridge after I got lost or stuck because there's no map, the environment looks pretty much the same everywhere and you can only see most paths from a certain angle. If you view it from a different angle, it'll show up as a dead end.
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In my age, every puzzle is googled, no time man, no time.
Back in my day, “walkthroughs” found on the “internet” was called “ask your friends and if they don’t know, tough luck”. There are more than a few Sierra and Lucas Arts games I never finished because I couldn’t figure out some obscure part of a puzzle and my parents wouldn’t drive me to Babbage’s to buy the hint book.
Okay grandpa, time for bed.
I see you are only interested in the exceptionally rare.
There’s an easier way to determine colors in Riven. There’s a puzzle that gives you the whale sound in an underwater lab, and you sit in a chair and press 6 buttons to turn the viewer. Each button has a color symbol on it, and each time you press it you get a color (except once but process of elimination).
Past that, each dome flashes its color symbol when you stop it spinning.
Alundra I love that game but boy some of those puzzles were just brutal.
First thing that comes to my head is the fnaf 3 wall tiles code, that was absurd.
True
I didn't have too much trouble with the sound puzzles in The Witness, you can brute force them anyway. It was the damn Tetris shapes that caused me the most grief. Never really quite grasped the rules.
Missed a trick with a rhyme here though:
"Can't do a list like this without Myst"
The safe in Labrinth is one of the most difficult of all time especially as you have to go through the portal in time or you are stuck permanently
9:45 Another honorable mention for Runescape would be the quest "Mourning's End Part II".
Even with a guide the light puzzle took me hours to do.
You're basically hopping between multiple floors, redirecting beams of light.
It doesn't sound bad like that but it was painful.
Still can’t believe 3rd gen Pokémon wanted us reading braille on a gba screen
The puzzle in one of the Portal 2 co-op challenges which takes actually a full 20 minutes KNOWING how to solve it? That stuff was bananas
I actually think the Challenge from the Witness was much more frustrating as it was time limited AND reshuffled each time you retried.
Agree. JB said he designed it so just looking something up in a solution guide alone wouldn't allow anyone to get the achievement.
I would actually consider Silent Hill 3's crematorium puzzle to be worse. The Shakespeare puzzle is at least solvable with the information given, even if it's a bit obtuse, but the crematorium puzzle has a double whammy.
The first is that one of the clues seems to point to the wrong body. The clue involves the phrase 'eating and eating, whether he was hungry or full', and one of the bodies (the owl) is identified as having had an eating disorder. But this body and its respective number aren't part of the actual solution and it's supposed to map to the linnet, which is identified as having been cruel and greedy, not gluttonous.
If you can make sense of that, then the second issue is that you're supposed to arrange the numbers you get 'from heaven to hell', so highest number to lowest on the keypad. That's actually pretty easy to figure out... except that *this line isn't in the localized poem*, so you can have all four correct numbers but the clue telling you what order they're supposed to be in is just plain missing, so you could be trying the obvious solution (to put them in the order that the clues were given) and never know what you're doing wrong.
The love letter one also has a mapping issue where apparently there was a miscommunication between the puzzle designers and the graphics team that resulted in the keypad inputs effectively being upside-down relative to the poem. You can still suss out the final solution by misreading the poem in the proper way -- and there is a line of logic to support the misreading -- but it's not how it was supposed to go.
SH3's puzzles are already pretty obtuse, but the riddles being inadvertently wrong doesn't do them any favors.
I am NOT a puzzle person. 😆Even puzzles in tomb raider reboot series gave me headaches. God bless the guides.
The silent hill one cracked me up. You need deep knowledge of shakespear's work of art to just get past a door.
The last puzzle in Tunic was a brain buster. I had to look up a guide for that one.
I'm a huge fan of puzzle games, so seeing The Talos Principle, Myst, and Riven in here (as far as I've watched), is wonderful. Definitely some of my favourite games of all time, although Soulslikes and story-driven shooters tend to be my tops. Regarding the mine maze in Myst's Selenitic Age, the sounds are the same as the rotating fortress in the Mechanical Age, so you've got some help there. Although doing them in a different order to how I did it is perfectly possible: I couldn't even get into the Selenitic Age for a year or two (I started the games in 2010) because some of the sliders in the rocket ship to get into the Age just didn't sound right to me. So I was getting the combination wrong for a long time.
gotta give props to falcon for his flow at 5.24, mad dope rhyme schemes
Playing Runescape while you talk about a puzzle in Runescape was quite a weird surprise to me since Runescape isn't generally talked about much outside the community haha. However, regarding the puzzle in Elemental Workshop 3, I didn't actually have that much trouble with it, or at the very least as much as everyone else. I solved it relatively quickly compared to my brother and now I know the rest of us scapers lmao. I never knew it was supposed to be so hard, I didn't even use a tutorial. (Also, you mentioned barely responding to inputs, I think you may misunderstand that the game runs on a tick system of 0.6s per tick, but it could be made much worse with internet issues, so I do see your point).
I never understood the witness puzzles after 2 areas. I finished the game following a guide and still didn't learn a thing. The last puzzle I just randomly did things and eventually it worked. But understanding the story is impossible imo, even with all the audio logs. I don't mind being dumb, I'm used to it at this point. 🤣
Me sometimes getting stuck on a puzzle because I'm overthinking it 🙃 but it had a simple solution
The ending of Divinity Original Sin 2. My favorite game of the last decade, al least right until you get to the end. The game has very few puzzles, and compared to what you are thrown into near the final boss they may as well not exist. You're expected to look down into a room, discern which side of the room is the "start" and which is the "finish", figure out that it wants you to do is navigate the 3 braziers of goop to fall into a maze and you get to turn all the tubes the get them to pour one side to the other. Oh, also one of the braziers is empty. If you haven't used a necromancer, which almost no one will do on their first playthrough, you may have no clue that blood is an element that you can modify in the first place. The missing brazier needs you to create a pool of blood, then cast bless on it to transform it into a different type of blood. Also, there is a grate nearby in the floor as you're overlooking the puzzle area. You're expected to make pools of blood over the grate, cast bless, THEN attempt to solve the puzzle after the fact. It's literally a puzzle to unlock the actual puzzle.
You don't need a necromancer to solve the puzzle as you can use an elf's cannibalize ability, or just remove someone's armor and physically attack them a few times. But seriously if you haven't played as a necromancer up to this point there's almost no chance you would know you could manipulate blood as an element because no other class really makes use of it.
The second puzzle after is actually kinda fun once you know how it all works, but on a first playthrough, I would wager that less than 0.05% of players actually solved this from start to finish without popping over to the internet for help.
This actually ends up throwing you into another puzzle right after, with infinite spawning enemies that can release deathfog traps until you pull levers to spell out a specific word with the starting letter of each lever. Are there clues to this word? No idea, but because you had to look up the previous puzzles, most people are immediately going to just look this puzzle up as well.
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How can you b so sure?
"Return of the scenic pond" 100% deserves its spot here, as hard as Baba is You is, that level somehow pushed it to the extreme. It doesn't utilise ant hidden trickery or things you haven't seen before, it's just so convoluted and technical that you're unlikley to solve it without systematically going through every possible action you can take
Anyone remember 7th Guest? A puzzle filled game but the toughest thing in there, imho, was the microscope game. I think the setup of the game and its rules provide a huge advantage for going second, which the player can't do. It was hard but i loved playing it. I had a save game reserved so i could go back and play it over and over.
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The big stone door for page 1 in tunic was insane to solve since it requires you to even go into another "special" save to get a single part of it
Getting Thomas De Carneillon's outfit in Assassin's creed Unity was ridiculously cumbersome.
Anyone else get stuck on God of War 3’s garden level? When you have to use the gem to align stairways
Wild Arms 2, it goes from RPG the whole game to one random segment where it decides it wants to be a puzzle game. I had to wait years for the internet to have the answer in order to continue the game!
Google? I never google. I just randomly try things until I blindly succeed. Worked so far.