A few months ago, my teenage daughter, who is an evangelical Christian, stated that she didn’t see how it made sense that someone could just declare belief in Jesus Christ, no matter how they had lived their life, and be saved the same as someone who had dedicated their life to spreading the Light of Jesus Christ. I explained the basis for that belief Evangelically, and then about the restored doctrine of degrees of glory. It made a lot of sense to her.
You may have explained the basis for your false belief, but the fact is, your belief/understanding is 100% false and has nothing whatsoever to do with the truth of the Bible. The mormon gospel is 100% unbiblical and is a fraud. There is no mormon person who is a saved person. Every single mormon beginning with the fraud and con artist joseph smith is a vessel of wrath that will with 100% certainty be destroyed in the lake of fire. There are no people in the world that are more blind, lost, and deceived than are the mormons. Speaking Biblical truth to a mormon is the same as speaking to a rock. The only difference is, the rock is more likely to listen and hear than the mormon is. Repent!
that’s funny, cuz I’ve actually read all your comments thus far, proving right here right now that one of us can listen, making it more than commenting to a rock. Furthermore, we share the EXACT same biblical beliefs. The Grace of Jesus Christ cannot be cancelled for me or anyone else who chooses and confesses Jesus of Nazareth is Christ, King, Savior, and Lord, just because YOU say so. You do not have power over Jesus Christ, His grace will save all who confess Him and choose Him.
Thanks Kaitlyn! You're awesome! I'm so glad that we believe in a God of love, and that love is shown through both justice and mercy. There is a place in eternity for each of us, according to the desires of our hearts.
Have you not seen all the tens of thousands of youtube videos from ex mormons? Or the hundreds of thousands of ex mormon comments in these videos that state what an absolute fraud mormonism is?
But what about being together as a family forever?? So what if we all get a glory but we are separated from our family??😢😢😢. Being sealed as families forever was HUGE in my conversion and has continued to be for nearly fifty years. Now everything is about getting what “you choose”, “everyone will be happy” , “ your agency” will be honored…. To me, that says that my moral agency has power over the Father of all creations as well as power over the love & atonement of our beloved Savior, He who created the planets and is responsible for their orbits-an all loving Redeemer. This movement saddens me so very much. I know many of Father’s children will be just dandy with a spot in the telestial kingdom, but what about those of us who believe in our covenants? Who pray and plead for Father’s mercy daily for our family and for ourselves?? As BRM (Bruce R. McConkie) so taught- you don’t have to do anything to get into a kingdom of glory. Unless you are a son of perdition, humanity will all inherit a kingdom of glory. But that is NOT the purpose of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The purpose of the Restoration of the Savior’s Church is EXALTATION- Families together. I did not give my family up, my life of love and security to join a Church that in the end says everything will “work out” “don’t worry” “everyone will be happy”. In my dark, sad & depressed corner of the earth the only hope I have is that families can indeed be together forever, or…. lights out
Don't you imagine that the people who once were active, endowed members but have chosen to leave, will see what could have been had they stayed faithful? I think they will be very sad😢
I recently ran across this scripture again that for some reason I had never before paid attention to, it’s from D&C 132:26. As I read it it seems to imply that as long as one is sealed in the temple, as long as they don’t murder, they are good to go? I imagine if one deliberately has their name removed from the church records then their sealing is broken in heaven and no longer efficacious, but could this scripture imply that a sealed couple who leave the church and even fight against it (committing all manner of blasphemies even) will be ok in the end as long as they don’t have their names removed? Very puzzling to me and something I’ve been mulling over for a few days now (regardless, I much rather to rejoice in Christ and serve Him, but interesting to ponder). 26 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man marry a wife according to my word, and they are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, according to mine appointment, and he or she shall commit any sin or transgression of the new and everlasting covenant whatever, and all manner of blasphemies, and if they commit no murder wherein they shed innocent blood, yet they shall come forth in the first resurrection, and enter into their exaltation; but they shall be destroyed in the flesh, and shall be delivered unto the buffetings of Satan unto the day of redemption, saith the Lord God.
Here's what I don't get about the telestial kingdom...I read that it's going to be such a beautiful place n that JS said that if we could see it's beauty we want to ever leave or something like that it's not verbatim, so my question is why would all these people like the Hitlers n Jeffery Dahmers of this world, child molesters, rapists, murderers ,etc deserve such a place like this. What would be the purpose. They didn't repent n lost that opportunity forever!
I don't know where my Mom learned this from but in response to many questions I have asked her she would say that in God's Mercy, repentance after this life is still possible but more difficult than if we had repented in this life. She didn't seem to know in which ways it would be harder, but she seems to be pretty convinced that it's possible. She's put in a lot more time than myself to learn and loves Legrand Richard's. Perhaps this information is in one of his books? One thing we know for sure is that God's ways are not ours and that there are mysteries still to be unfolded. One of our top priorities should be to live with faith, a charitable heart, hoping for all hearts to be healed, Believing, he truly has the power to heal all. That's my 2 cents, anyway. I don't comprehend it all, but I believe God can help me understand.
What you have failed to understand is, joseph smith was a 100% fraud. Not one word of what he put forth has any basis in truth or in reality. His whole 100% unbiblical, antigod, antibible, antichrist religion is all nothing but science fiction fantasy. The sad fact is, those like hitler, dahmer, and the rest that you mentioned are all going to be far better off on Judgement day than will those who have been snared into the Godless abomination of mormonism.
It’s important to understand that there are angels of god and angels of Satan battling for influence in all of our lives. Every decision we make is influenced by one or the other. The fact that someone like Hitler lived means that in the pre-mortal life, he was our brother and we stood beside each other. When we enter this life with a veil of forgetfulness, our circumstances and childhood upbringing, along with any mental illnesses we might have, greatly influence who we become. Evil spirits use those things to influence people to do terrible things. Nobody who has ever lived can be 100% bad because they chose Heavenly Fathers plan. And this mortal life is not even a fraction of a millisecond when you consider eternity. Heavenly Father would not condemn one of his children to eternal suffering over a fraction of a millisecond of bad choices. I know he did terrible things. But eternally, he is our brother and has been throughout all eternity. I hope this explanation makes sense
Lovely presentation! Thank you for sharing!
A few months ago, my teenage daughter, who is an evangelical Christian, stated that she didn’t see how it made sense that someone could just declare belief in Jesus Christ, no matter how they had lived their life, and be saved the same as someone who had dedicated their life to spreading the Light of Jesus Christ. I explained the basis for that belief Evangelically, and then about the restored doctrine of degrees of glory. It made a lot of sense to her.
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You may have explained the basis for your false belief, but the fact is, your belief/understanding is 100% false and has nothing whatsoever to do with the truth of the Bible.
The mormon gospel is 100% unbiblical and is a fraud. There is no mormon person who is a saved person. Every single mormon beginning with the fraud and con artist joseph smith is a vessel of wrath that will with 100% certainty be destroyed in the lake of fire.
There are no people in the world that are more blind, lost, and deceived than are the mormons. Speaking Biblical truth to a mormon is the same as speaking to a rock. The only difference is, the rock is more likely to listen and hear than the mormon is.
Repent!
that’s funny, cuz I’ve actually read all your comments thus far, proving right here right now that one of us can listen, making it more than commenting to a rock. Furthermore, we share the EXACT same biblical beliefs. The Grace of Jesus Christ cannot be cancelled for me or anyone else who chooses and confesses Jesus of Nazareth is Christ, King, Savior, and Lord, just because YOU say so. You do not have power over Jesus Christ, His grace will save all who confess Him and choose Him.
Thanks Kaitlyn! You're awesome! I'm so glad that we believe in a God of love, and that love is shown through both justice and mercy. There is a place in eternity for each of us, according to the desires of our hearts.
*We wouldn't want to ever leave
Have you not seen all the tens of thousands of youtube videos from ex mormons? Or the hundreds of thousands of ex mormon comments in these videos that state what an absolute fraud mormonism is?
But what about being together as a family forever?? So what if we all get a glory but we are separated from our family??😢😢😢. Being sealed as families forever was HUGE in my conversion and has continued to be for nearly fifty years. Now everything is about getting what “you choose”, “everyone will be happy” , “ your agency” will be honored…. To me, that says that my moral agency has power over the Father of all creations as well as power over the love & atonement of our beloved Savior, He who created the planets and is responsible for their orbits-an all loving Redeemer. This movement saddens me so very much. I know many of Father’s children will be just dandy with a spot in the telestial kingdom, but what about those of us who believe in our covenants? Who pray and plead for Father’s mercy daily for our family and for ourselves?? As BRM (Bruce R. McConkie) so taught- you don’t have to do anything to get into a kingdom of glory. Unless you are a son of perdition, humanity will all inherit a kingdom of glory. But that is NOT the purpose of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The purpose of the Restoration of the Savior’s Church is EXALTATION- Families together. I did not give my family up, my life of love and security to join a Church that in the end says everything will “work out” “don’t worry” “everyone will be happy”.
In my dark, sad & depressed corner of the earth the only hope I have is that families can indeed be together forever, or…. lights out
Don't you imagine that the people who once were active, endowed members but have chosen to leave, will see what could have been had they stayed faithful? I think they will be very sad😢
Oh yeah… I definitely think there will have FOMO… when they realize their unmet potential, for sure!
I recently ran across this scripture again that for some reason I had never before paid attention to, it’s from D&C 132:26. As I read it it seems to imply that as long as one is sealed in the temple, as long as they don’t murder, they are good to go? I imagine if one deliberately has their name removed from the church records then their sealing is broken in heaven and no longer efficacious, but could this scripture imply that a sealed couple who leave the church and even fight against it (committing all manner of blasphemies even) will be ok in the end as long as they don’t have their names removed? Very puzzling to me and something I’ve been mulling over for a few days now (regardless, I much rather to rejoice in Christ and serve Him, but interesting to ponder).
26 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man marry a wife according to my word, and they are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, according to mine appointment, and he or she shall commit any sin or transgression of the new and everlasting covenant whatever, and all manner of blasphemies, and if they commit no murder wherein they shed innocent blood, yet they shall come forth in the first resurrection, and enter into their exaltation; but they shall be destroyed in the flesh, and shall be delivered unto the buffetings of Satan unto the day of redemption, saith the Lord God.
Here's what I don't get about the telestial kingdom...I read that it's going to be such a beautiful place n that JS said that if we could see it's beauty we want to ever leave or something like that it's not verbatim, so my question is why would all these people like the Hitlers n Jeffery Dahmers of this world, child molesters, rapists, murderers ,etc deserve such a place like this. What would be the purpose. They didn't repent n lost that opportunity forever!
Those who inherit the Telestial kingdom will atone for their sins during the millennium.
I don't know where my Mom learned this from but in response to many questions I have asked her she would say that in God's Mercy, repentance after this life is still possible but more difficult than if we had repented in this life. She didn't seem to know in which ways it would be harder, but she seems to be pretty convinced that it's possible. She's put in a lot more time than myself to learn and loves Legrand Richard's. Perhaps this information is in one of his books? One thing we know for sure is that God's ways are not ours and that there are mysteries still to be unfolded. One of our top priorities should be to live with faith, a charitable heart, hoping for all hearts to be healed, Believing, he truly has the power to heal all. That's my 2 cents, anyway. I don't comprehend it all, but I believe God can help me understand.
What you have failed to understand is, joseph smith was a 100% fraud. Not one word of what he put forth has any basis in truth or in reality. His whole 100% unbiblical, antigod, antibible, antichrist religion is all nothing but science fiction fantasy.
The sad fact is, those like hitler, dahmer, and the rest that you mentioned are all going to be far better off on Judgement day than will those who have been snared into the Godless abomination of mormonism.
It’s important to understand that there are angels of god and angels of Satan battling for influence in all of our lives. Every decision we make is influenced by one or the other. The fact that someone like Hitler lived means that in the
pre-mortal life, he was our brother and we stood beside each other. When we enter this life with a veil of forgetfulness, our circumstances and childhood upbringing, along with any mental illnesses we might have, greatly influence who we become. Evil spirits use those things to influence people to do terrible things. Nobody who has ever lived can be 100% bad because they chose Heavenly Fathers plan. And this mortal life is not even a fraction of a millisecond when you consider eternity. Heavenly Father would not condemn one of his children to eternal suffering over a fraction of a millisecond of bad choices. I know he did terrible things. But eternally, he is our brother and has been throughout all eternity. I hope this explanation makes sense
I just listened to this talk again two nights ago. Awesome talk