(these) estonian bros know something (about eurovision)
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2024
- The fandom doesn't believe Estonia's 5miinust x puuluup supergroup can be a contender. Are they on drugs? SEE THE NIGHTCORE REMIX HERE: • (these) estonian bros ...
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wow. 😮
You dropped these: 🕶
Good luck in Malmö, boys.
sama (armastame teid 5-miinust)
we don’t deserve you 5miinust (& the talharping friends puuluup), but i thank you for blessing us anyway. get that win !!!!
Woo! 5miinus!
(what's) the best act of eurovision 2024 (and why is it estonia)
Well, Estonian daddies I mean bros might have known a lot about Eurovision, but apparently Eurovision didn't really know about them. How they only got 37 points (4 from jury and 33 from televotes) is beyond me - this is imo by far the best entry this year. Thank you for the detailed analysis of the song and groups, though, I learned a lot of new stuff about my favorites :)
Yup, I can understand why they didn't got that many points from the public, but their dance, the tarharpha, the language, I don't understand how they only got 4 points from the jury. I mean, there were so many others that were less special than Estonia, like Israel, Serbia and many others.
I am seriously impressed by your analysis. One of the rare esc youtubers that actually takes the time to understand the artistry in the original context, language and with cultural references...chef's kiss.
Super interesting
Fyi .. it is very commun in Estonia to have access to some "summer cottage" whatever your wealth level
In a way, removing one of the minuses from 5miinust was actually a plus.
Mathematically correct, - (-1) is +1.
😂
That's because an even amount of negatives is positive
Is that Michael VSauce here
I believe he retired and moved to estonia and now living his dream to perform in Eurovision
So, the V in VSauce stands for "Viis". We finally found out!
@@efi3825 There was never a Michael VSauce, it was all just a longform cultural experiment from Puulup.
So Michael VSauce's actual name is Marko Veisson?
Marko "viis-sauce"
I love, that you really have done your research!
Also Puuluup members are master trollers live. There’s a live video of a song called “Chika Pua”. They try to explain what this song means: Ramo is speaking in Estonian and Marko translates into English. Of course, the translation part is completely different to what Ramo is actually saying. Also every time I’ve seen them live, they have a different story of what this song means. And the stories are really detailed, like you almost actually believe them.
They talk so masterfully, that only when you start to think about what they’re saying, you understand that they’re talking nonsense.
They are just a bunch how guys having fun.
Living, maybe? 🎉
I really hope Eurovision appreciates this song, I've been listening to it non-stop.
And boy did they NOT appreciate this song 😵💫 but it was one of my favorites this year!
As a wannabe anthropologist sitting on Tibetan and Bhutanese Buddhism for over a decade...
I totally freaking relate to him taking 18 years for his thesis LOL
17:24 I think you’re a bit wrong about this, and it is actually another reference to the TV show “Politseikroonika” that you mention later in the video (and that is referenced in the next line of the song). There’s this very famous clip of “Politseikroonika” that’s known as “Siberi rahaboss” (“moneyboss from Siberia” in English, it’s briefly seen in the video at 19:32), where the host visits three drunken people in a disgusting and cluttered apartment, one of whom is a guy who keeps repeating how he earned a lot of money in Siberia (hence the name).
In that episode, the woman in the group says “mul ei ole… meil ei ole narkomaane…” which in English means “I don’t have… we don’t have any junkies…[here]”. The first line of the song might actually reference this phrase. Later on the woman mentions how they gather stuff from garbage and says this: “Näete, seesama kleit, mis mul seljas on - see on ka leitud prügikastist” which in English means “You see, the same dress that I’m wearing - this was also found from a garbage can”.
Of course this is just speculation on my part, but it wouldn’t be the first time this particular episode of “Politseikroonika” is referenced in a song.
Heh funny thing is when I sent in potential clips to the boys for 19:32 I had actually noted that exact line as a potential callback (would have needed fixing the subs since the compilation with eng subs we got from hobune translated kleit => skirt, and the current selection works better out of context), and none of us [over]thought about it to connect the two
But hey can always have multiple meanings too
I think it's absolutely no coincidence as there exists also 5Miinust + Öökülm remake ruclips.net/video/TfXty8Z1ZA4/видео.html of original song about Siberian money boss, "Viskilaul" ("The Whiskey Song"). So they are surely using that bum lady motive from that legendary "Politseikroonika" episode what could be rephrased as: "we are honest hard-consuming bums, look, we are even wearing clothes found from dumpster, how dare you mix us up with some damn junkies."
Wow, thanks for the info!
All of this origin story just makes me love these Estonian guys even more!
Estonian here. Wow my mind is blown over the attention to detail in this video, blown on multiple levels 🤣😂😂😂 when I thought you couldn't go any deeper, you went even deeper (lol @ scenes from Politseikroonika). Now I can't even imagine your levels of overthinking in every day life 🤣
like how's this even possible without knowing estonian and being inside the culture for years. SUper skills
I’m so excited about them going to Eurovision because my dad has built their instruments 🤩 And I also just really love this song!
Onko ne jouhikkoja suomesta? Vai onko virossa oma soitintyyppi?
@@rebekkanikula9986 joo, Suomessa tehdyt jouhikot 😊
@@rebekkanikula9986 talharpa!!
No ei ole suomesta
I was just thinking that their instruments were very cool !
Minor claim to fame: I was the Production Team Supervisor for ESC 2002 in Tallinn, and it was during a meeting about the postcards and how to allocate them between entries that I suggested 'So many beautiful women' be shown before Slovenia 😅 I also recommended that 'Freedom' presage Russia...
When you mentioned the 'suvilas' being meth labs i think you're a bit off cause most Estonians have summer houses due to them being being cheap back in the day. And because Estonia is a relatively small country it's not time consuming to go to your summer houses year round and most people do so. So in my opinion i think they just meant it as a hangout spot.
Yeah i wanted to mention the same: Having a suvila is not a sign of anyone being rich. Estonians used to live in rural places, and yes, young people move into bigger towns but the rural homes generally stayed in the families. Everyone needs a place to leave the towns behind for Jaanipäev ok.
And I have learned something new while wasting time on RUclips. Thanks!
Also, many people have cottages because some grandma or old auntie died and they got the spot as inheritance, now used as a cottage, because the family has a life in the city... these properties often have hundreds of years old historical farm buildings on them, which is cool.
Yeah, I´m Czech and this part felt somehow off. Similar experience here in Czechia.
Same thing in finland too. Mostly these suvilas are just old family homes that are no longer being lived in.
The singer of the 1980 duck song was Estonias first ever Eurovision representative in 1994, Silvi Vrait.
wanted to see if i was right about that, thanks for confirming
Heh, had that typed in until I decided to check for redundancy before posting. Thanks for looking up the year as well! :)
Olla võin kui tuur või merisiil, su kõigi unistuste kiisk, kui külmas vees on värske niisk. Olla võin kasvõi hai ma, kuigi tean et homme võin ma muutuda vaid soolatud fileeks...
Even from the little clips of this song you played, I’m ready to break out into a dance. Ugh it’s just so good, the community is sleeping on it, but Europe won’t. Thank you for yet another amazing video!
one of my faves this year
I feel like they and their performance are something that can appeal to people from all ages.
My 6 month old baby loves the song. We have used it to calm her down if she’s crying, or to make her laugh by getting her arms to do the dance. Definitely ‘all ages’ :)
@@SmolAliens, so sweet 🥰 😀
Estonian here.
Thank you for this in-depth analysis about Estonian modern Eurovision/music culture. I really learned a ton! :)
I have a personal connection to Puuluup by proxy. I used to work in an Estonian cultural centre in Toronto. They hold an Estonian Music Week festival once every two years. My former supervisor knows Puuluup very well. She and other colleagues invited them for EMW's 2019 edition. They were a massive hit among those who attended. Fast forward to today, sometime immediately after they won, she tagged them on Facebook to celebrate.
Not me, passing by Estonian elementary-middle school another day and hearing this song, sung by some 7 year-olds.
And then later someone blasted Käärijä in the classroom
Taste👌
Thats basically all that kids listen to here
A friend complained that their pre-schooler sang this at the kindergarten development interview, in front of the teachers... like, a song about drugs :D
@@vihmaussivenitaja love it
which country are you in?
VERY few Estonians actually know that this specific dance was used very long ago by our ancestors to do warmup/ritual dance before going hunting.
I think it's interesting that when Puuluup have an interviewer who casually calls the talharpa an Estonian instrument, they get a little uncomfortable and say, "Well, it's a Vormsi instrument certainly." They don't want to make it seem like this music (or this dance) represents a folk culture that was ever widely spread. This was a local thing and they don't want people to think otherwise (although I think it's hard for people not to think along national lines and just say it's Estonian folk music).
Well, you certainly do your homework! I learned many new things about my country's entry. :D
This year's Eurovision is absolutely a party first (trophy second), whoever wins, will have deserved it. But I am fixing my sound system and planning who'm I want to invite to watch the show and dance.
19:58 Worth noting that "Papaveri e papere" came 2nd on the second ever Sanremo music festival, which is distinct for how the top 3 was all occupied by the singer Nilla Pizzi. Love how we joke about Sanremo not having a male solo winner for 10 years in recent memory, while the early Sanremo editions were all about women (in a way).
This is a great video, so much research! I loved these guys, being the first eurovision act I followed since before their National finals. Such a fun group, shame they didn’t make the left side in the results. I hope their country is still very proud and they’re happy because they did bring a cultural party
14:12 Stefan's song was great, definitely one of my favourite, that year.
I used to watch Overthinking It the first time they tackled Eurovision in 2013 (from Malmö to Malmö), when there were more guys in the channel digging into 3 songs at a time, and the channel still tackled things other than Eurovision. Dare I say this is one of the most anticipated videos for me personally in terms of Overthinking It Eurovision coverage? (then again I love it when every Eurovision-tackling platform/person with at least a little bit more charisma and analyzing skill power covers my favourite songs of the year hahaha)
So hope they can pull off (or puuluup) a Moldova 2022! Thanks for this background story, gotta move them in my to 10 (currently my 12th place). So many good artist this year!
pull Estonia up
You are doing eurovision God's work.
For real, amazing work.
Thank you so much
This is my favourite song of the year. It's cool to see it get a video.
Damn, never have I seen a YT channel do such a deep dive into research and be completely accurate!
OMG, thank you so much! I love this song and have been wondering what it's trying to say FOREVER! It's like, "I'm pretty sure they're trying to say something, but damned if I know what it is."
There are lyric videos with translations as well
Truly impressive amount of research you've done here.
uuuuuuuuuh yeaaaaaaaah!!
Sabaton also has a board game, by the way. I haven't played it yet, but I am eager to try it out, because having a 7.0 rating on Boardgamegeek and being from Pegasus Spiele, it could be nice.
I feel like the fans have cooled on the song because it dropped actual months ago (December?), in a regular year you would say this would do well in the televote but it's quite a televote heavy year. I love it myself but I can equally see this coming Top 5 in the televote as I can see it NQing.
These guys are awesome together. Yet another gem that came from my recent Eurovision obsession. I will definitely listen to their album!
This was so interesting! I just loved this song, and am so disappointed it didn't do better in the contest!
Now I like the song even more.
Wow, I had no idea about Rockefeller Street! That is the coolest Eurovision news I've heard today. Estonia has my favorite song at Eurovision 2024.
I adored the Estonian song this year. Loved 5minust and puulup. They got my votes last night. Ireland here
Bravo for Overthinking 5miinust! I hope they win the party in Malmö. 💙from Finland
I'm really looking forward to that album now!
On April Fool's Day, you pranked me with a video on my favourite song of 2016. The following day, you rewarded me with this video on my favourite song of 2024. All is forgiven.
I am beyond stoked for their collab album!! My husband is already sick of me playing Viimane Suusataja on repeat
Honestly, these guys is among my top favourites this year, and I'm really hoping they can beat the odds. Their song is just such a fun one
I love these guys and the song is in my top 5 eurovision this year. Thank you for all these information that I would never get any other way!
Thank you so much for talking about this song. So catchy and fun …and once I read the translated lyrics (which unfortunately most casual Eurovision viewers won’t see), I was completely hooked. I have had it on repeat ever since and it’s aging well. The video was also hilarious. If this doesn’t make it to the final I will be so so sad. Sending lots of #CaliforniaLove and 12 points!
My nightmare scenario is both Estonia and Finland NQ. I will never recover. -MB
@@overthinkingit That would be a nightmare indeed. I’m also really hoping Armenia qualifies - the world deserves the fun and flavor of that one too.
Awwww, once again, such a sweet and well researched video, thank you Overthinkers, I never tire of this channel! Also, while I enjoyed vibing to "Nendest (...)", I wasn't much of a big fave of mine so far. Your analysis, once again, had me re-evaluate my judgement and deepened my enjoyment! I just love how overthinking Eurovision in the right way, seeing that still many peeps dismiss ESC as a "trash-show", can actually reveal why Eurovision is anything but trash! Much love, a 40+ yrs devoted fan of the European mad music olympics! :*
Puuluup is actually better know world wide then 5miinus. Puuluup has performed in India and other places. 5miinus is just a local drug and party band. They promote music about tits and other sex and drug stuff which children seem to really enjoy and sing along. That controversial for me. But they both are big in Estonia and sell out concerts.
Honestly, Estonia's placement was THE most unfair thing that happened in Eurovision this year. And that's saying something, given everything that happened this year.
What a great video! I learnt many things from it. I once took a deep dive into the lyrics of this song and one line made me think they might know about those drugs after all. The line "Prillid on pupilli...ei noh pulli pärast ikka" which at first doesn't make a lot of sense and can be dismissed easily, but when you think about it and fill in some blanks yourself, it very well can be that they start to say "the glasses are for hiding dilated pupils" but then quickly, in the middle of the sentence, change it into "no, it's actually just for fun". And they ARE wearing sunglasses on the stage, so... is it really just for fun, or are these characters sus after all? 🤔
Good point!
I am stunned by your in depth research. Seriously I have such a high respect for them, but your analysis. Sold the song to me. Jumping on the Estonia bandwagon like right now ❤
I scrolled down to say 'WOW' as well. Fantastic job on explaining the lyrics. Especially from non-Estonian, bravo!
You missed a detail :) "Pardike ja mooniõis" was a song by a group called Fix whose lead singer in that song was Silvi Vrait (you showed her) and Silvi of course was the first estonian in Eurovison finals with the song "Nagu merelaine" in 1994.
Olla võin kui tuur või merisiil, su kõigi unistuste kiisk, kui külmas vees on värske niisk... olla võin kasvõi hai ma, kuigi tean, et homme võin ma muutuda vaid soolatud fileeks 🎶
My winner this year
This was greatt, i love this entry its in my top 10. You should definitely do the Netherlands 🇳🇱🇪🇺
very many people own summer cottages in estonia, mainly due to their family having lived there, but then moving to the cities, yet they still have the property.
That's a weird mix indeed, but it turns out it's a really good one.
You're still not over your historic mistake of underestimating Moldova hahahah
🇫🇮❤🇪🇪
If folks haven’t seen it, Google their winning performance at the selection competition with the Sign Language interpreter. It’s ACE. I hope they have footage of his interpretations on the screen behind them.
Mina, Eestlane, kuulan seda ja naeran kuidas ta nimesid ütleb. Ma küll saan aru, et Eesti nimed on väga keerulised öelda teises keeles, ja oled tubli. Tubli töö! ❤
Eestlane
Thank you for all your research, this was very interesting and informative ❤
Thank ou for the great research, it was very informative. Having Nendest in my ears as an earworm for quite some days already, it's fantastic.
In 2013 Winny Puhh was participating in Eesti laul with the song "Meiecundimees üks Korsakov läks eile Lätti" they didn't win, but I think it would have fit Eurovision well
It was golden!
I did NOT expect this video to be this good. Hats off!
20:45 I hope with all my heart that this is a VSauce reference
Incredible work by the way !
I absolutely loved this analysis. I learned so much!
Best review, hands down! Great work!!
FWIW: Regarding the Context actually being a party: it is typically called "Eurovisie Songfestival" in The Netherlands.
my winner
What a thorough video essay! Loved it!
Super high quality infotainment! The research you do really does leave no stones unturned.
As a Finn this song was so fun and definitelly going to my playlists. Fun looking dance too 😂
So happy i bot to know about these guys
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Buen análisis de la canción. Mucha suerte a Estonia en Eurovisión! Es para mí la canción ganadora! The winner 🇪🇪
13:10 Tommy Cash for Estonia Eurovision 2025!!!
pretty good research there brother
Thank you for the video. Got some nice facts i didn't know 😊
This is how artists should use Esc. I love puuluup.
This was excellent! We are looking forward to your interpretation of the Greek and Dutch entries
Very impressive and thorough research!
Great group great song and what a video you did once again dude. Well done
I love this so much. Thank you.
I haven’t thought about “Parmupillihullis”, an Eesti Laul song from 2016, for years. The vibrating instrument sound reminded me of it. I love that I’m exposed to such quirky music through eurovision
Man. That was one well put-together video. Great job! I did not think I would finish this video but I did! It's just so effing well done.
you just nailed that politseikroonika part(Y)
Dude, the amount of research and detail in this video is crazy!
I learnt so many things about my own country, lol. And gained new respect for @5miinust , did not realise how deep the references in their songs go. I have said for years that 5miinust should represent Estonia in Eurovision since they are what Estonians actually listen to (apparently I did not know any of the Estonian Eurovision songs since 2017 ._.), even tho I don't really like their music myself.
wow, just wwow, that was an amazing analyis, thank you so much, so interesting and so deep, full of extra stories
His Estonian sound like non-existant english words😂😂 I can't even tell when he is trying to say something in Estonian.
Amazing work either way!!!❤❤❤
Incredible video AGAINNNN 😭😭😭💖💖💖
16:55 Estonians LOOOOVE clothes in a dumpster a.k.a. Disco Elysium
I believe there's reference to Estonian real crime television called "Politseikroonika" where they showed us people (basically hobos) who were living in extreme poverty and mess and got their clothes from the carbage (so the lady claimed). Police was called by neigbour because of partying and trash hoarding and first sentence of a simple-minded lady was: "There are no junkies here!" Then came a man who looked like an Alien with huge glasses who was really-really drunk and no word that came out of him made sense. Then came a moderately drunk man with a sweater and bragged how rich he is, claimed he came from Siberia and is Money Boss (rahaboss) and now is buying drinks for the hobos.
But Puuluup and 5 miinust don't talk about that cause the song about that has been already made at least decade ago, called "Rahaboss"
It's funny (and a bit strange because of the lyrics) that this song is also sung by kindergarten children in Estonia.
The place in Eurovision is not so important, rather the fact that this song will probably live its own life in the future.
12 points from me, 😂😍
an also great example of mixxing traditional and rock punk music was 2013 greece "alcohol is free"
Yeeeeeessss!
finished the video. disappointed that there was no shoutout to Vsauce. although maybe 20:47 counts (but it needed the Vsauce cue music :c )
Great analysis!
Top quality video I'm subscribing now!