2 mins in & loving the editing style. Fun circle showing off the rifles. btw how did you get the rotating gun? did you just rotate the weapon in preview with a green screen background & a controller for smooth rotation?
Well I... don't necessarily agree with #1. It's pretty hard to get to 100/100, its concealment is lower than Union's, it has no reload speed upgrade which forces you to spec into fast reload skill which in turn forces you to sacrifice either extra damage or anti-shield skill (and take 5/7 for the secondary), and even then you don't reach 100/100. And the shooting sound just doesn't feel right to me... I tested it thoroughly when the buffs came out, gave it multiple chances but in the end had to settle with my good old union+mark10 combo. My bad pc doesn't allow me to counteract 80-88 recoil and Union, being a freaking laser, does the job.
Honestly happy to find this after the kkknowley rankings. It's a fine video but outdated and overvalues ammo pickup way to much. You really deserve more attention brother
Funny thing that all my ammo pickup issues go away with the existence of the secondary sniper rifle and a sniper build with AR on semi mode, heck getting a bullet per 2nd hs made little friend and ks12 usable with no ammo bag requirement
@@sneezer8620 'forgot abt that gReAt fEatUrE' whats the sarcasm for? its totally logical that they're weaker both in stoppin power & accuracy compared to ARs like IRL obv, idk why u would imply it shouldnt be that way?
@@ace6806 I really love your content. The perk deck Newbie Vs DSOD players was so damn good. But I imagine a lot of work. I'll follow you up for Payday 3 if you keep making some till the release 😃 Former Yokai is the Ace of Spades, and for good reasons! Looking forward to more lists and/or build guides
Hey Ace, just came back to the game after many many years and wondered if your recent "21 builds for every perk" videos are still up to date or if there's anything else you could recommend? :)
I'd say they are still up to day because overkill haven't changed anything related to the perk decks or skills. Maybe you could switch some weapons for the ones in this video
@@ace6806 alright, thank you! What about your guide on steam? :) I've checked that one out and you featured the akimbo hacker build which seems pretty fun but its different to the hacker build in the video, which would you recommend? ^^
I know this video is old and that what I'm gonna ask needs a lot of context and explaing but, it's the Longbore attachment for the CAR-4 worth it for a build with low blow aced? I have the courier and mcshay mod pack and I'm not sure if I should stick with those instead, the most likely answer is yes but I wanted to have a more "professional" opinion. If you read this entire thing, and ESPECIALLY if you reply, thank you very much. Your videos are great and have been very useful for me that started playing a month ago lol.
From what I know, there have some changes to the game recently, and I have not played payday in a very very long time, so I don't know how accurate my information might be. Nonetheless, I don't remember what the longbore attachment changes stat-wise, so you'll have to supply me with a screenshot of its numbers, then I will most likely be able to tell you whether it's worth using or not. Thanks for the kind words =D
@@ace6806 Oh! I get it, understandable. If that's the case, where or how can I contact you to send you the screenshot? I don't see any link to any social media anywhere. Maybe I haven't search hard enough, so if that's the case my bad.
@@ace6806 Okay RUclips won't let me, so, uh, sorry for the inconvenience about this dumb question, I'm just gonna say the stats right away. DMG: +2 Accuracy: +12 Stability: +8 Concealment: -4 Oh, and Silencer skills work in it.
@@Alpha-ym4rr Hm... that is a pretty huge concealment decrease, but if you can manage to keep either 23 or 26 detection risk, then it seems fine regardless of whether it's a "suboptimal" choice. And since the silencer skills work with it, I'm assuming getting it to that number should be rather possible, so yes, you can go for it if you like it.
With dmrs you're better off going with the amr or m308. Amr because of reasons listed here and if you use ammo efficiency and switch to single fire and get headshots ammo bags won't be necessary at all and it takes the speed pull mag. M308 for the same reasons but instead of speed pull it's higher concealment thanks to the bteam stock.
Any will work. What weapon you pick matters more on death sentence, if you're a new player and play on lower dififculties it won't really matter because enemies have much lower health, so they die instantly.
As mentioned any will do but to give a specific one for beginners then 100% the union 556 because it only costs 42k and doesn't seem to have a level requirement.
Its up to you, as ace said weapons dont matter on lower difficulties but if you're gonna attempt something like mayhem then I'd suggest either the Union, AK5, AMR16 or even the Tempest. Although the AMR has a high firerate and high damage, it also has very low total ammo, and the high firerate burns ammo quickly so I'd suggest you learn how to control it in order not to lose too much ammo.
Okay, i have been away from this game around 1.5 years and now i feel like i need a new build, different weapon selection and maybe even some changes on those weapons attacments. Now my question is, did you rank these AR's according to your personal taste or opinion, or depending on the latest updates and change logs and stats etc.? Fyi i used to play with good old anarchist build with akimbo CR 805B submachine or m308 as primary.
I tried to be objective with this list. If it were solely my personal judgement, the ak17 would for sure be #1 because with ammo bags it's outta this world. Lion's roar won ultimately because its DPS and ammo pickup are too good with barely any skills added to it.
The treatment that you mentioned, came with one of the latest updates or i completely missed that babe from the very beginning? Should have been buffed at some point i guess cuz i have every single weapon purchased and upgraded and also organized as it is in the market in my inventory. x)
@@orhuntunali It was a buff to assault rifles that took place either this year or the previous one. I don't remember exactly, but I don't think it was a thing 2 years ago.
Thanks for your comments mate. One last thing, i highly recommend you to check akimbo cr 805 sub. It has higher mag cap, higher dps, concealment and reload time. Only lower stat is stability, which is 84 in mine, is not drastically low. Also fun to use ofc its akimbo.
How about clarion and little friend? Using by mod I increased little friends damage to 200 and ammo pick up to 325:))) increased stability to max, and it’s powerful asf now.
hey, was playing with a bunch of assault rifles yesterday and i was wondering : what do you think about the valkyria, clarion and queen's wrath? was thinking of running those for a fun sicario build that could work in DSOD but i'm not sure if they'd be very decent (i played around with a modded Valkyria and some skills that would help it, and i cleaned heavy NPCs very well. light dozers were kind of a pain though, usually got to one clip or almost one clip them and i couldn't find a secondary that'd easily remove dozers apart from getting a parabellum and spamming pistol skills, and it doesn't have good stability either so i'd gotta be close to make it work)
Valkyria and QW are very average. Clarion is on the better side and it's the one I would recommend, although personally I like valkyria much more. Try to get lock'n'load aced and unseen strike basic when playing with this one and it should be good. For the secondary something like a krinkov or cr smg should be good if you can conceal them enough to reach 26-23 detection risk.
@@ace6806 The Clarion was seen as the king of ARs in berserker crit BE set ups until the lions roar took its spot basically becoming a direct upgrade, the lions roar now does everything the clarion does but better making for one of the most baffling balance decisions in the game
@@ramiel-best-girl There are no mistakes, objectively this build is good. I can give you some alternatives if you want: ?s=1Q3I0-4d0-7gF00101k120100&p=g&a=0&t=g&d=5 ?s=1Q3I0-4d0-7gF00101m000100&p=g&a=0&t=g&d=5 ?s=1Q1G1000d0100010gF00101m000100&p=g&a=0&t=g&d=5 ?s=5O1G1000d0100010gF00103k000100&p=g&a=0&t=g&d=5 ?s=1Q1G100094100010gF00301k000100&p=g&a=1&t=g&d=5 The list could be long, but 5 + yours should be enugh ;p.
Being chosen by the youtube algorithm takes a bit of luck, but I don't worry about it too much. Only caring about the numbers would be unhealthy, it's nice that there are people who watch the stuff I upload though
Yeah, honestly the bootleg works more like a light machine gun than AR, but I ain't gonna complain about it being an AR and not a LMG because it means we have access to sights unlike most LMGs (except the Verseckt that is)
@@civ6industrialdistrict how often is that skill actually used/ how often does it really active to make it useful cause I've got around 6013hrs playtime and I that think of only one build I used it on before changing it out?
Galant user ape does not love this list (I know you guys are veterans and Galant is not good that I think. But I love the Clang sound and I think its useful for lower difficulties)
Would've loved to see the Tempest, but its still cool to see others like the ak17 or ak5
Pretty good informative video, keep it up! It would be great if you do it with every weapon category.
We'll try to make it happen
@@ace6806 what about the clarion
I think its good and the buff made it 25 percent stronger
im totally in love with the new videos format, looks sexy and professional at the same time, would love to see next category of weapons ❤️
Quite surprising people like the simple editing, but that's great, thanks :D
I love the car4 with the longbore. Just satisfying for me.
Same here... But I don't can make it have a good accuracy
And also it's super low damage without dmr
@@orbiterx929bro you can mod it for 100 stability and accuracy easily
Thank you! Now i can beat heists more! Thank you man, here is a sub mate.
And here's a heart
remember when the car-4 was the go-to assault rifle? good times
Car 4 + loco :D
My baby the gecko 7.62 better be on here
2 mins in & loving the editing style. Fun circle showing off the rifles. btw how did you get the rotating gun? did you just rotate the weapon in preview with a green screen background & a controller for smooth rotation?
Oh, it's a simple rotation function + keyframes in the editing software. I didn't do any in-game rotating on my own.
this video made me realize ive spent so much time with real weapon names mod on that i forgot what they're actually called in game :/
Real names hard, my memory wouldn't let me memorize them. IIRC Union was FN-2000 or something like that?
@@ace6806 yessir, the gorgeous belgian bullpup FN F(S)2000, love that fucking ar 🖤
Well I... don't necessarily agree with #1. It's pretty hard to get to 100/100, its concealment is lower than Union's, it has no reload speed upgrade which forces you to spec into fast reload skill which in turn forces you to sacrifice either extra damage or anti-shield skill (and take 5/7 for the secondary), and even then you don't reach 100/100. And the shooting sound just doesn't feel right to me... I tested it thoroughly when the buffs came out, gave it multiple chances but in the end had to settle with my good old union+mark10 combo. My bad pc doesn't allow me to counteract 80-88 recoil and Union, being a freaking laser, does the job.
Fair enough
Huh? I get 100/100 fine and still have enough concealment for low blow. And the 5/7 is totally fine to use anyway
Honestly happy to find this after the kkknowley rankings. It's a fine video but outdated and overvalues ammo pickup way to much. You really deserve more attention brother
Thanks! Did kknowley do an AR ranking? I didn't know :o
Funny thing that all my ammo pickup issues go away with the existence of the secondary sniper rifle and a sniper build with AR on semi mode, heck getting a bullet per 2nd hs made little friend and ks12 usable with no ammo bag requirement
Haven't had the chance to play the secondary sniper yet, might try at one point
quick question: is the uzi secondary better than the amr 16/ak 17 because of it's crazy high ammo pickup ( 8- 14 per ammo box) for only -10 damage?
No, mainly because of damage falloff + smgs don't reach such high accuracy.
@@ace6806 oh that makes sense. I've forgotten about that great feature -_- but imo it's the best smg secondary. thanks!
@@sneezer8620 'forgot abt that gReAt fEatUrE' whats the sarcasm for? its totally logical that they're weaker both in stoppin power & accuracy compared to ARs like IRL obv, idk why u would imply it shouldnt be that way?
@@thelurker3795 oh mb. I was thinking about it for shotguns.
You should try ak17 mark 10 combo, its insane
Pretty cool that the love child of the G36C and Famas is the Lions Roar VHS rifle
I love your list. Can we get more like that?
Best x weapons for secondary or for x Perk Decks
We'll try to make more of those :D
While he didn't technically do best perk decks, he did do a perk deck ranking
@@ace6806 I really love your content. The perk deck Newbie Vs DSOD players was so damn good. But I imagine a lot of work.
I'll follow you up for Payday 3 if you keep making some till the release 😃
Former Yokai is the Ace of Spades, and for good reasons!
Looking forward to more lists and/or build guides
@@shiori00 that was a cool list
@@silverwolf27 indeed
You forgot Gecko. Same ammo pickup as Lion's roar, better reload speed, 50 ammo mag, 845 ROF, 70 damage and good concealment.
Yea, I guess it could replace the ak5 and maybe union in the ranking.
Hey Ace, just came back to the game after many many years and wondered if your recent "21 builds for every perk" videos are still up to date or if there's anything else you could recommend? :)
I'd say they are still up to day because overkill haven't changed anything related to the perk decks or skills.
Maybe you could switch some weapons for the ones in this video
As LL said, overkill barely touches anything, so they're either similar or the same power-wise.
@@ace6806 alright, thank you! What about your guide on steam? :) I've checked that one out and you featured the akimbo hacker build which seems pretty fun but its different to the hacker build in the video, which would you recommend? ^^
@@LetsArion From the guide, the akimbo hacker one is definitely the strongest. The moment you get used to the game again it's pretty much unstoppable
still actual, or what rifle would you recommend now for anarchist build?
AMCAR #1 or I unsub
also, how do you run the action movie pack mods? Whenever I kill more than like, 2 enemies my fps tanks.
Idk, I added even more stuff to that and now I play the game at 25-30 fps as well, so it's time for a new pc I guess xd.
What’s the best weapon a newer player can use if they don’t have any dlc?
union
hey what mod are u using to get that spatter of blood
you can do the same for lmgs pls?
What Gun are u using in the video
So is the astatoz yust the same as amr-16? Because i have ir and i love it
I know this video is old and that what I'm gonna ask needs a lot of context and explaing but, it's the Longbore attachment for the CAR-4 worth it for a build with low blow aced? I have the courier and mcshay mod pack and I'm not sure if I should stick with those instead, the most likely answer is yes but I wanted to have a more "professional" opinion.
If you read this entire thing, and ESPECIALLY if you reply, thank you very much. Your videos are great and have been very useful for me that started playing a month ago lol.
From what I know, there have some changes to the game recently, and I have not played payday in a very very long time, so I don't know how accurate my information might be. Nonetheless, I don't remember what the longbore attachment changes stat-wise, so you'll have to supply me with a screenshot of its numbers, then I will most likely be able to tell you whether it's worth using or not.
Thanks for the kind words =D
@@ace6806 Oh! I get it, understandable. If that's the case, where or how can I contact you to send you the screenshot? I don't see any link to any social media anywhere. Maybe I haven't search hard enough, so if that's the case my bad.
@@Alpha-ym4rr Upload the screenshot on imgur and send the link in the comments ;p
@@ace6806 Okay RUclips won't let me, so, uh, sorry for the inconvenience about this dumb question, I'm just gonna say the stats right away.
DMG: +2
Accuracy: +12
Stability: +8
Concealment: -4
Oh, and Silencer skills work in it.
@@Alpha-ym4rr Hm... that is a pretty huge concealment decrease, but if you can manage to keep either 23 or 26 detection risk, then it seems fine regardless of whether it's a "suboptimal" choice. And since the silencer skills work with it, I'm assuming getting it to that number should be rather possible, so yes, you can go for it if you like it.
great video! also, how's ak with dmr kit compared to amr16
AK isn't great compared to others iirc, but if your aim is good, then any dmr will be a good choice
With dmrs you're better off going with the amr or m308. Amr because of reasons listed here and if you use ammo efficiency and switch to single fire and get headshots ammo bags won't be necessary at all and it takes the speed pull mag. M308 for the same reasons but instead of speed pull it's higher concealment thanks to the bteam stock.
What do you think the best non DLC assault rifle for beginners is? Something that can be useful in the later stages of the game.
Any will work. What weapon you pick matters more on death sentence, if you're a new player and play on lower dififculties it won't really matter because enemies have much lower health, so they die instantly.
As mentioned any will do but to give a specific one for beginners then 100% the union 556 because it only costs 42k and doesn't seem to have a level requirement.
Its up to you, as ace said weapons dont matter on lower difficulties but if you're gonna attempt something like mayhem then I'd suggest either the Union, AK5, AMR16 or even the Tempest. Although the AMR has a high firerate and high damage, it also has very low total ammo, and the high firerate burns ammo quickly so I'd suggest you learn how to control it in order not to lose too much ammo.
nice vid
New and improved list. 5. AMCAR 4. AMCAR 3. AMCAR 2. Commando 553 1. AMCAR
B)
Okay, i have been away from this game around 1.5 years and now i feel like i need a new build, different weapon selection and maybe even some changes on those weapons attacments. Now my question is, did you rank these AR's according to your personal taste or opinion, or depending on the latest updates and change logs and stats etc.? Fyi i used to play with good old anarchist build with akimbo CR 805B submachine or m308 as primary.
I tried to be objective with this list. If it were solely my personal judgement, the ak17 would for sure be #1 because with ammo bags it's outta this world. Lion's roar won ultimately because its DPS and ammo pickup are too good with barely any skills added to it.
The treatment that you mentioned, came with one of the latest updates or i completely missed that babe from the very beginning? Should have been buffed at some point i guess cuz i have every single weapon purchased and upgraded and also organized as it is in the market in my inventory. x)
@@orhuntunali It was a buff to assault rifles that took place either this year or the previous one. I don't remember exactly, but I don't think it was a thing 2 years ago.
Thanks for your comments mate. One last thing, i highly recommend you to check akimbo cr 805 sub. It has higher mag cap, higher dps, concealment and reload time. Only lower stat is stability, which is 84 in mine, is not drastically low. Also fun to use ofc its akimbo.
so who is owner of this channel jenny or matthew?
@@terminallucidity ok who is the owner ran or the last catbrushing twister
Yes
@@ace6806 #freearn
How about clarion and little friend? Using by mod I increased little friends damage to 200 and ammo pick up to 325:))) increased stability to max, and it’s powerful asf now.
hey, was playing with a bunch of assault rifles yesterday and i was wondering : what do you think about the valkyria, clarion and queen's wrath? was thinking of running those for a fun sicario build that could work in DSOD but i'm not sure if they'd be very decent (i played around with a modded Valkyria and some skills that would help it, and i cleaned heavy NPCs very well. light dozers were kind of a pain though, usually got to one clip or almost one clip them and i couldn't find a secondary that'd easily remove dozers apart from getting a parabellum and spamming pistol skills, and it doesn't have good stability either so i'd gotta be close to make it work)
Valkyria and QW are very average. Clarion is on the better side and it's the one I would recommend, although personally I like valkyria much more. Try to get lock'n'load aced and unseen strike basic when playing with this one and it should be good. For the secondary something like a krinkov or cr smg should be good if you can conceal them enough to reach 26-23 detection risk.
@@ace6806 The Clarion was seen as the king of ARs in berserker crit BE set ups until the lions roar took its spot basically becoming a direct upgrade, the lions roar now does everything the clarion does but better making for one of the most baffling balance decisions in the game
What guns should I use for my AI Teammates?Should I use the Lions Roar on all of them?
Buzzsaw lmg for two of them and r93 for the third one would do the job
@@ace6806 any modifications?
Is the falcon any good? its my favorite rifle
It's kinda average. Not too good, not too bad
@@ace6806 Thx
This ace guy is so cool
Edit: so is the guy talking
You are so cool
Nice video as aways! What about the Bootleg Rifle, how would you rank it ?
Hmmmmm... bootleg is probably somewhere in the middle.
I've been trying to make a triple mark 10 kingpin build. I have it but I don't know if it is optimized enough. Any tips?
Send via the pd2builder here
Alright Ill send it to you as soon as I can
Alright here's the link to the builder:
/?s=1Q3I0-4d010-5gF0050xk000100&p=g&a=0&t=g&d=5
Can't send it all cuz youtube being youtube
@@ramiel-best-girl There are no mistakes, objectively this build is good. I can give you some alternatives if you want:
?s=1Q3I0-4d0-7gF00101k120100&p=g&a=0&t=g&d=5
?s=1Q3I0-4d0-7gF00101m000100&p=g&a=0&t=g&d=5
?s=1Q1G1000d0100010gF00101m000100&p=g&a=0&t=g&d=5
?s=5O1G1000d0100010gF00103k000100&p=g&a=0&t=g&d=5
?s=1Q1G100094100010gF00301k000100&p=g&a=1&t=g&d=5
The list could be long, but 5 + yours should be enugh ;p.
@@ace6806 Thanks m8, appreciate it
How to bring gun pointer..it is hard aiming 🤔
Whats ur fav perk decks
Grinder and anar
Why did you change your youtube name from yokai?
Why cant I find these guns in the AR catgeory ?
Playing on console?
After watching video, I still dont know how you have only 6k subs?
Being chosen by the youtube algorithm takes a bit of luck, but I don't worry about it too much. Only caring about the numbers would be unhealthy, it's nice that there are people who watch the stuff I upload though
Best starter rifle? (no dlc)
is the #1 gun a dlc? and if it is which one
Dragan Character Pack
I thought the clarion was cool but maybe its the skins i own
hey whats your amr16 build
I lost it :c
@@ace6806 damn
no gecko? it is just a slightly weaker lion's roar
I love the amcar
UAR is not here :C
Blame arn
Gonna say it, the new bootleg. Works as a diet LMG and with crits and beserker it completely shreds
Yeah, honestly the bootleg works more like a light machine gun than AR, but I ain't gonna complain about it being an AR and not a LMG because it means we have access to sights unlike most LMGs (except the Verseckt that is)
Can you do smgs please
Does anyone know the soundtrack in the background?
ruclips.net/video/LoTXsZ-PcXc/видео.html
lions roar only has 45 ammo each mag, it cant even kill a bulldozer with one clip
I can't believe Valkyria isn't in this vid
Tell overkill to buff it till it reaches 80 damage :P
@@ace6806 it doesn't have to have this much damage to absolutely shred everything, espescially with Unseen Strike
@@civ6industrialdistrict how often is that skill actually used/ how often does it really active to make it useful cause I've got around 6013hrs playtime and I that think of only one build I used it on before changing it out?
@@fiyahquacker2835 pretty commonly if you have points to spare and want some more damage
@@fiyahquacker2835 aces US is the ultimate anti dozer skill
Am I the only one that doesn't like bullpup weapons because of the aesthetic.
Payday 2 for the NDS when?
NDS bad, steam deck gang
Isaac music intensifies
Isaac music
Galant user ape does not love this list (I know you guys are veterans and Galant is not good that I think. But I love the Clang sound and I think its useful for lower difficulties)
I got the one thousandth like!!
we need this builds with this guns (im need it)
Might consider more build videos in the future
@@ace6806 ok thanks for answer
Car 4 had more mods than skyrim
Not wrong xD
I cant find them 😢😢😢
I’m so confused are you the same person as yokai
Depends on who you ask
Isent amcar good?
Not quite
Can someone give me the lions roar Attachments?
2nd special mention: AMCAR
nerf it pls.
Absolutely
Where is the gecko? I feel like it's one of the strongest guns in the game.
It deals a lot of damage, as long as you have ammo bags, then it's above most rifles, yeah.
@@ace6806 But the ammo pickup is pretty much the same as on the lion's roar. I've never used ammo bags when playing with it
@@alexstudyvin4920 Doesn't gecko have an attachment that makes it a 100 dmg+ rifle?
@@ace6806 That's gewehr. The gecko is basically lion's roar but less used.
@@CarrotIsBad Ohhh xd
Mod_overrides pack when ?
ruclips.net/video/zavhUFn2YRY/видео.html&t
I just tried it... I tought the union was the best, but that thing is insane
Union used to be the overall best option before, now other rifles are similar and yeah... lion's roar showed who's the true lion there
@@ace6806 ONLY good option, in fact
No honourable mention for the Galant Rifle ping sound 0/10
Galant cool, but it's not as spammable and requires godlike aim to make it comparable in power to stuff like ak17 :c
@@ace6806 yeah but, PING
wzruszające
:c
No little friend :(
number #0 amcar
but M1 Garand ping
But Sunny, no :guneline:
But but ;-; ..... Clarion T_T ..... 1000rof T_T ooga booga where clarion
I was considering another honorable mention for it tbh
Ak5 sucks
no clarion bad video
Watch it for the 2nd time, maybe it will appear there now O_O
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