Tl;Dr: Dodge is great until your HP is low, which is why you see dodge decks backed up by things such as HT aced, FAKs, and why Hacker's ability to heal during the ECM is really strong. Aside from it being looked at through a pretty narrow lens I really like this video. However, something at 9:03 caught my eye and I thought it was worth talking about. Hacker can get up to 45% base dodge with SB, 55% with Duck and Cover aced, and finally 75% after getting a kill with the ECM active. You mentioned the idea of getting triple tapped killing you (in which case it does, regardless of having PiC aced or not). Assuming getting sequentially shot (and exactly on Grace windows) the only way to die in this situation is by being shot all three times. The odds of this happening with hacker during the ECM is 1.56%. As a matter of fact, your odds of dodging two or three bullets is *exactly* the same (42.1%), giving you an 84.2% chance of dodging two or more bullets in this hypothetical. EDIT: Some hidden context here shows that you get put down to
I am terribly awful at maths and don't understand most of it, but for you efforts I will pin it. Also thanks for spending time to write it in the first place. c:
@@ace6806 Another tl;dr would be: if you're playing Rogue, 90% of the time two randomly fired bullets won't kill you even if you're at 1HP, and at full HP 15.8% of the time you'll take health damage if you're on full health from three random Heavy shots.
wow i must be really lucky to consistently get 1.56% chances several times in a row i dont rely on dodge but its still annoying when it just doesnt trigger at all
@@suckanegg5501 That 1.56% number comes from being shot at *only* three times. If you get shot at more (which you probably will) the chance goes up, by definition, exponentially.
The problem with rogue players specifically in pubs is they dont care about creating space, and you get targeted more for creating space. I respect dodge as a mechanic and can get along with hacker/sicario players but playing with a BAD rogue player is just annoying.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. My old team used to do 2 or 3 man pub lobbies (as work/school permitted) and 99.99% of the time, the worst players were always running Rogue+Messiah. It's a hold over from what was "common knowledge" since Perk Decks debuted: That Rogue is the best because evasion = fast and stronk. This was a misconception at best, because facerolling everything in max difficulty PD2 gets you killed no matter what patch-version of the game you're playing, but that doesn't stop idiots from being idiots. Rogue used to be the undisputed king back when Overkill was still the top difficulty, and remained quite strong even during the early Death Wish days. (yes, even back when Grinder was offering near-immortality through constant health-gate resets)
Really great breakdown, glad to see that every difficulty is mentioned not only DS (personally I play only on DS but I understand why most people don't), I my personal opinion a thing that is overlooked a lot are "Gating" decks, i.e. for health gating Ex-prez and Grinder and for armor gating like Anar and Socio, sure they get played a lot especially anar but whenever a talk of playstyles its always "Dodge or Armor" all of these 3 play styles have their boons and drawbacks dodge is fast but not consistent, Armor is extremely consistent but slow, and gating decks can be both fast and consistent but require the most skillful play since for most of them you need to perfectly time kills/dmg dealt, to stay afloat and these are the ones I personally stick too, can't wait for more content like this from you. Oh and also do you have a modlist because the game looks stunning and I'd want to check it out
ruclips.net/video/zavhUFn2YRY/видео.html - here you can find my mods. I am also using Aurelius' reshade that I modified for my needs, but this consumes a ton of frames and my gtx 1660 ti cannot really handle all the effects. If you have a powerful PC, you might want to give it a go
Dodge has other benefits, like you wear a suit so might as well run crits cause the suit is low detection. I know unseen strike is good but that’s points and if u are tanking your probably going to need those points for ictv or zerk. I wish there was a perk deck that gave you more armor and converted armor points into a crit chance. Don’t make it as high like the 30% from low blow but like 1% for every 10 points of armor and like a 30% more armor overall deck would be cool.
I think armor is the best, because I have the principle that, u should never rely on luck to complete Death Sentence (or atleast, I think that would be very poor game design, but again, Overkill Software is no stranger to that).
Haha I was in a death sentence lobby and everyone had dodge-medic bag builds so I told them I can use my armorer-ammo build since ammo bags are kind of a must in ds. The host didn’t even tell me not to, I just instantly got kicked
Pamiętam czasy gdzie ictv z anarchistą + frenzy był op jak cholera, byłeś dosłownie biegającym czołgiem który brał na siebie wszystko a i tak nie ginął, piękne czasy. [*]
I will say dodge when using the rogue perk deck is a great way to get new players into the game. The have a dodge of 50 and dont get smashed into the face with all the berserk, melee, amor, unseen strike shenanigan's. Hell I first played in 2014 and mostly messed with dodge. When sicario came out I branched a bit into armor because of the shots adding dodge. Now I am starting to pop into unseen strike and am going to try melee skills soon. I will say you got invincibility frames like when you got shot when you used to dodge, they changed this about 6 years ago so you dont get the invincibility frames. I will say dodge for me is when I just want to relax while playing payday. My build when I do this is grimm shotgun, akimbo biker heist smg, and running hacker with jokers. For me it is just so relaxing. I play in a very similar way to armor players when I play with hacker. Unless I pop the ecm when I go rambo. For me I find dodge constantly working for me. Like it honestly feels like I dodge about 50% based on my playstyle. I would feel like you would have to see my gameplay to understand. It's like I run the same mindset from 2014-2016 I only had crew chief with the biggest armor. In 2017 I started watching connor shaw and used dodge and had alot of fun. I dont run willy nilly into cops when playing death sentance and mostly death wish. There is a danger there but it depends on if you want to have a consistant fall back option, or a somewhat inconsistant fall back option. I still recommend bullseye on all builds sep with stoic. On a closing note, I always found it cool was that in payday 2 when compared to the first was that you have a different way of playing the game that can still work well.
That's generally what makes payday 2 a much better game compared to the first one. Excluding the bloat in this one, it offers much more variety nonetheless. : )
I feel like both can be important escpially playing something like hacker, when you dont have your pECM up you can bullseye gate and tank full zeal hits with just that tiny bit of armor.
Great video about of one the biggest topics of this game. Its cool to watch even if i dont play anymore the game. I might reinstall it one day idk. I hope i remember to do it. Thank you for the video
Sorry, I felt bad and forgot to give the link: pd2builder.netlify.app/?s=1Q00101081100010gF006Nxi000100&p=k&a=0&t=0&d=5 Mod for 23-26 detection risk (ak 17 + micro uzi)
@@MILDMONSTER1234 wdym hacker is better than kingpin, with kingpin you are liteally unkillable in DSOD for exception of shotgun enemies, ain't no way hacker is better than kingpin
Now im wondering, if the hacker deck gives you 20 dodge points upon activating the pocket ECM, or during any ECM, wouldnt that mean theres a chance you can make an ICTV/Frenzy/Pseudo dodge build? If thats possible then that build could be used as a good fallback option if, lets say, you do first world bank and let your friends stealth while you hang back with a heavy loadout just in case if it all goes loud.
I prefer dodge because I don't like the slower play-style of Armorer and prefer more aggressive play, however I will admit Armorer is still very good and also has good survivability along with being more reliable overall. But again, I just find something like rogue (my go to dodge deck) more fun then Armorer. Once again, another well made video
Health > Armor and Dodge Hacker and Muscle are good for a reason and yes hacker can be played as health and not dodge. Grinder and Ex Presidents are good too and less said about Kingpin, stoic and Leech the better
While i agree that armor can offer better survival chance. I think you forgot other reason why dodge can be better. Detection risk. DR is important for low blow which give your weapon a chance to deal 3x the damage. And unlike dodge, crits can proc more often and dont give you a risk to yourself when it failed. This give dodge a higher potential to creating space and when you make space you dont have to worry about getting shot. While with armor with no access to crit (or use weaker weapon just for crit) you will have harder time making space and run more risk of getting shot.
It's my personal reason why I don't use ictv setups, but on most ictv decks you can run berserker (while you don't really do that on dodge decks) which balances it out. :p
It's easy, Armor is good pre-mayhem, Dodge is good post mayhem by default, some perks give armor more value so running it to dw is a good idea sometimes, but overall stoic is still op
cool vid but you overlooked a few things. even though you clarified that 75% does not mean you will dodge 75% of all bullets you still treat chance like it's something somewhat consistent, which it isnt thus you should not rely on it. if anything dodge should be treated like a bonus, so play like you didnt have dodge, that way you will avoid being let down by dodge when you need it most. other thing, not all armor decks need ictv. you also ignored stuff like anarchist armor gating. you can perfectly play armorer with, say, HBV instead of ictv for extra speed and itll still work fine, why? because it has a 100% chance to make sure your health bar doesnt take damage. the only thing that can make armor somewhat unreliable are snipers and explosives given that they ignore armor gating. that's why the worst enemy of an anarchist main will always be snipers. alternatively for even higher consistency than armor you could run stoic or leech given that those decks throw armor out the window and just focus on health, granted they do it in different ways. armor will always be better than dodge no matter how you look at it, becasue you can always count on it when you need it most. it wont let you down because of bad roll of the dice. however if you want relatively consistent dodge, sicario exists. Sicario straight up lets you stand in front of a swat van and take no health damage WITH the use of the smoke bomb and progressive dodge increase. Sicario and hacker are the best dodge decks in the game, given that they have the highest dodge chances. But point still stands armor will always be better than relying on a roll of the dice to save your ass.
Can't agree here with you. If I were to treat dodge as just a bonus and not something I can use to huge advantage I would never be able to play as aggressively as I do. And with enough focus I can no down 10 heists in a row while reasonably relying on dodge.
@@ace6806 im not saying you cant play aggresively with dodge. Im saying you cant count on a roll of the dice to save your ass, what are you gonna do when that dodge stat doesnt do what you need it to do when you need to? Go back to cover o keep pushing forward? My main issue with dodge are the majority of its users, the ones that constantly count with that roll of the dice as if it were something you can tell when it will or wont work, mostly rogue players. outside of that, its all good.
@@terminallucidity yes i get that. Thats what makes a good dodge player. Like i said my main issue are the majority of rogue mains that make excessively stupid plays expecting dodge to save them. Those people defend that would defend dodge to death saying that a small percentage of dodge is better than armor. I like to reply to that with "skill issue". The truth is that (to my knowledge) for dodge to work and be even remotely "reliable" you need quite a high chance, thats why sicario is so good. Theres only so many shots you can take as sicario before it forces you to dodge. Meanwhile with armor any amount of armor works, granted the more shots it allows you to tank the better.
i personally prefer muscle instead of armorer, because it heals 3% and makes you into a walking, breathing and talking block of gorilla meat which fell into cement. why? so i dont have to waste my 14 first aid kits when im low and can give them to my teammates and dont have to actively think while walking around with my iron sight with red laser sniper rifle and logger
Armor, i'd say cuz it could help you survive better and is guaranteed unlike dodge. Plus there is a thing, which is when dodge works your screen goes full white.
Ja próbowałem ARMOR i nie klikło. Przeniosłem się na sicario, jest bardziej "do wszystkiego" dla mnie. DODGE pozwala na pasywniejszą ochronę ale także gdy trzeba ruszać albo coś zrobić pozwala na szybką i agresywniejszą akcje, plus granat dymny jest świetny pod robienie celu.
The guy who's voicing my videos purchased a new and actually good microphone recently, so it should be better from now on. The one used in this video is like a $1 headset one
Luck has nothing to do with it. Learn about "dodge cooldown". Ok and below 1.5 sec Mham+ 7.5 ms. What is dodge cooldown? If you dodge you will dodge everything EQUAL or lower of the damage you dodged. If the damage is higher its a hit.
Tl;Dr: Dodge is great until your HP is low, which is why you see dodge decks backed up by things such as HT aced, FAKs, and why Hacker's ability to heal during the ECM is really strong.
Aside from it being looked at through a pretty narrow lens I really like this video. However, something at 9:03 caught my eye and I thought it was worth talking about.
Hacker can get up to 45% base dodge with SB, 55% with Duck and Cover aced, and finally 75% after getting a kill with the ECM active. You mentioned the idea of getting triple tapped killing you (in which case it does, regardless of having PiC aced or not). Assuming getting sequentially shot (and exactly on Grace windows) the only way to die in this situation is by being shot all three times.
The odds of this happening with hacker during the ECM is 1.56%.
As a matter of fact, your odds of dodging two or three bullets is *exactly* the same (42.1%), giving you an 84.2% chance of dodging two or more bullets in this hypothetical.
EDIT: Some hidden context here shows that you get put down to
I am terribly awful at maths and don't understand most of it, but for you efforts I will pin it. Also thanks for spending time to write it in the first place. c:
@@ace6806 Another tl;dr would be: if you're playing Rogue, 90% of the time two randomly fired bullets won't kill you even if you're at 1HP, and at full HP 15.8% of the time you'll take health damage if you're on full health from three random Heavy shots.
wow i must be really lucky to consistently get 1.56% chances several times in a row
i dont rely on dodge but its still annoying when it just doesnt trigger at all
@@suckanegg5501 That 1.56% number comes from being shot at *only* three times. If you get shot at more (which you probably will) the chance goes up, by definition, exponentially.
wait so uh
if I'm understanding your words right
everything but stoic is not hot fucking garbage.
The problem with rogue players specifically in pubs is they dont care about creating space, and you get targeted more for creating space. I respect dodge as a mechanic and can get along with hacker/sicario players but playing with a BAD rogue player is just annoying.
rogue bad other deck good
reason why people generally dislike dodge players in a nutshell
It's a placebo effect. The targeting on you might be slightly increased, but it should never be game changing.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
My old team used to do 2 or 3 man pub lobbies (as work/school permitted) and 99.99% of the time, the worst players were always running Rogue+Messiah.
It's a hold over from what was "common knowledge" since Perk Decks debuted: That Rogue is the best because evasion = fast and stronk. This was a misconception at best, because facerolling everything in max difficulty PD2 gets you killed no matter what patch-version of the game you're playing, but that doesn't stop idiots from being idiots.
Rogue used to be the undisputed king back when Overkill was still the top difficulty, and remained quite strong even during the early Death Wish days. (yes, even back when Grinder was offering near-immortality through constant health-gate resets)
it’s like the sentry conundrum. they are good, but their users are bad.
Your evolution over time is amazing to watch. Easily one of the top payday youtubers.
Thank you! Much love
@@ace6806 The payday youtuber ever
@@typikkal5327 one of they youtubers of all time
4:58 "We've got hostiles" **proceeds to play after he says armor**
Really great breakdown, glad to see that every difficulty is mentioned not only DS (personally I play only on DS but I understand why most people don't), I my personal opinion a thing that is overlooked a lot are "Gating" decks, i.e. for health gating Ex-prez and Grinder and for armor gating like Anar and Socio, sure they get played a lot especially anar but whenever a talk of playstyles its always "Dodge or Armor" all of these 3 play styles have their boons and drawbacks dodge is fast but not consistent, Armor is extremely consistent but slow, and gating decks can be both fast and consistent but require the most skillful play since for most of them you need to perfectly time kills/dmg dealt, to stay afloat and these are the ones I personally stick too, can't wait for more content like this from you. Oh and also do you have a modlist because the game looks stunning and I'd want to check it out
ruclips.net/video/zavhUFn2YRY/видео.html - here you can find my mods.
I am also using Aurelius' reshade that I modified for my needs, but this consumes a ton of frames and my gtx 1660 ti cannot really handle all the effects. If you have a powerful PC, you might want to give it a go
Dodge has other benefits, like you wear a suit so might as well run crits cause the suit is low detection. I know unseen strike is good but that’s points and if u are tanking your probably going to need those points for ictv or zerk. I wish there was a perk deck that gave you more armor and converted armor points into a crit chance. Don’t make it as high like the 30% from low blow but like 1% for every 10 points of armor and like a 30% more armor overall deck would be cool.
also with suit you don't have to spend points aced Die Hard or Iron man leaving more points for whatever you need
@@shiori00 makes me wonder how a perk deck that has ictv built into it would work
I always had mix feelings with dodge and armour on ds so this video basically break down on how dodge really works
I think armor is the best, because I have the principle that, u should never rely on luck to complete Death Sentence (or atleast, I think that would be very poor game design, but again, Overkill Software is no stranger to that).
Haha I was in a death sentence lobby and everyone had dodge-medic bag builds so I told them I can use my armorer-ammo build since ammo bags are kind of a must in ds. The host didn’t even tell me not to, I just instantly got kicked
Classic payday moment :(
Pamiętam czasy gdzie ictv z anarchistą + frenzy był op jak cholera, byłeś dosłownie biegającym czołgiem który brał na siebie wszystko a i tak nie ginął, piękne czasy. [*]
"Kiedyś to było..." ;p
"I just like sit in a room with my contractor armor build without crits and do relaxing heads- HOLY SHIT A DOZER"
:thinking:
I usually play hp + 5% dodge(suit). I also utilize panic and regen from converts. I don't play difficulties over mayhem cuz I am still learning.
Good luck :D
Dodge or armor?
Anarchist, stoic, grinder: *cries in the corner*
Anarchist isn't a health deck wdym lol
@@dorimeameno5514 of course it isn't wtf
@@yol_n then why put it alongside with health decks like stoic and grinder, its still on the discussion between armor and dodge decks.
@@dorimeameno5514 anarchist can also be armor gate which really isn't armor per se
I got one questiob: How do you make the blood particles appear upon any enemy hit and not just on kills
I will say dodge when using the rogue perk deck is a great way to get new players into the game. The have a dodge of 50 and dont get smashed into the face with all the berserk, melee, amor, unseen strike shenanigan's. Hell I first played in 2014 and mostly messed with dodge. When sicario came out I branched a bit into armor because of the shots adding dodge. Now I am starting to pop into unseen strike and am going to try melee skills soon. I will say you got invincibility frames like when you got shot when you used to dodge, they changed this about 6 years ago so you dont get the invincibility frames. I will say dodge for me is when I just want to relax while playing payday. My build when I do this is grimm shotgun, akimbo biker heist smg, and running hacker with jokers. For me it is just so relaxing. I play in a very similar way to armor players when I play with hacker. Unless I pop the ecm when I go rambo. For me I find dodge constantly working for me. Like it honestly feels like I dodge about 50% based on my playstyle. I would feel like you would have to see my gameplay to understand. It's like I run the same mindset from 2014-2016 I only had crew chief with the biggest armor. In 2017 I started watching connor shaw and used dodge and had alot of fun. I dont run willy nilly into cops when playing death sentance and mostly death wish. There is a danger there but it depends on if you want to have a consistant fall back option, or a somewhat inconsistant fall back option. I still recommend bullseye on all builds sep with stoic. On a closing note, I always found it cool was that in payday 2 when compared to the first was that you have a different way of playing the game that can still work well.
That's generally what makes payday 2 a much better game compared to the first one. Excluding the bloat in this one, it offers much more variety nonetheless. : )
Even with the divide
What unites us all
Is our motto
"AHHHH I NEED A MEDIC BAG"
I feel like both can be important escpially playing something like hacker, when you dont have your pECM up you can bullseye gate and tank full zeal hits with just that tiny bit of armor.
Work reminds me of Richard Dangles, good stuff.
Never watched him, but people seem to like him, thank you : D
Great video about of one the biggest topics of this game.
Its cool to watch even if i dont play anymore the game.
I might reinstall it one day idk.
I hope i remember to do it.
Thank you for the video
Thankies, enjoy the comeback
laugh in stoicism
Nice video! Also, would you mind sharing the build you are using in the background clip? :^)
Will take care of it later / tomorrow, currently unable to
Sorry, I felt bad and forgot to give the link: pd2builder.netlify.app/?s=1Q00101081100010gF006Nxi000100&p=k&a=0&t=0&d=5
Mod for 23-26 detection risk (ak 17 + micro uzi)
@@ace6806 It’s alright ( ´▽｀). And thank you for the build!!!
Me wearing a full kevlar suit to a stealth only heist
nobody has used dodge for years the question is do i wanna run anarchist kingpin
or stoic or off meta
Hacker is stronger then all of those except maybe stoic but then again you don’t even have to play dodge with hacker
@@MILDMONSTER1234 wdym hacker is better than kingpin, with kingpin you are liteally unkillable in DSOD for exception of shotgun enemies, ain't no way hacker is better than kingpin
Now im wondering, if the hacker deck gives you 20 dodge points upon activating the pocket ECM, or during any ECM, wouldnt that mean theres a chance you can make an ICTV/Frenzy/Pseudo dodge build?
If thats possible then that build could be used as a good fallback option if, lets say, you do first world bank and let your friends stealth while you hang back with a heavy loadout just in case if it all goes loud.
Health is a thing too
I would probably say it like "Dodge VS Tanking"
While you talk about armorer
Hmmm what about anarchist with suit?
I prefer dodge because I don't like the slower play-style of Armorer and prefer more aggressive play, however I will admit Armorer is still very good and also has good survivability along with being more reliable overall. But again, I just find something like rogue (my go to dodge deck) more fun then Armorer. Once again, another well made video
Thanks for watching : )
@@ace6806 no problem! :D
Rouge player 🤮
@@hoothoot7122 Cope.
@@shiori00 it was a joke…
Is that Guard Down from Entropy: Zero I hear? :o
Perhaps : )
Health > Armor and Dodge
Hacker and Muscle are good for a reason and yes hacker can be played as health and not dodge. Grinder and Ex Presidents are good too and less said about Kingpin, stoic and Leech the better
"Just dodge lmao "
is it possible to have a heavy armor dodge build? lol
Technically you can have like 5% dodge ictv hacker or smth. :p
What about both? (Combined)
That'd be crook and crook is very average
Ayo what's the background music?
ruclips.net/video/t7Gz8jJOLAk/видео.html
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I enjoy zerk rogue, best meme build
While i agree that armor can offer better survival chance. I think you forgot other reason why dodge can be better. Detection risk. DR is important for low blow which give your weapon a chance to deal 3x the damage. And unlike dodge, crits can proc more often and dont give you a risk to yourself when it failed. This give dodge a higher potential to creating space and when you make space you dont have to worry about getting shot. While with armor with no access to crit (or use weaker weapon just for crit) you will have harder time making space and run more risk of getting shot.
It's my personal reason why I don't use ictv setups, but on most ictv decks you can run berserker (while you don't really do that on dodge decks) which balances it out. :p
with armorer you can get a 2 shot ctv and have low blow aced so armor reigns supreme
It's easy, Armor is good pre-mayhem, Dodge is good post mayhem by default, some perks give armor more value so running it to dw is a good idea sometimes, but overall stoic is still op
armor is always good as long as you know how to play the game
i just go with Anarchist and Berserker with TPS, i survive most heists completely lol i don't like to be slow with armor
I prefer anar too, but mainly because I hate how inaccessible low blow is for ictv setups
cool vid but you overlooked a few things. even though you clarified that 75% does not mean you will dodge 75% of all bullets you still treat chance like it's something somewhat consistent, which it isnt thus you should not rely on it. if anything dodge should be treated like a bonus, so play like you didnt have dodge, that way you will avoid being let down by dodge when you need it most. other thing, not all armor decks need ictv. you also ignored stuff like anarchist armor gating. you can perfectly play armorer with, say, HBV instead of ictv for extra speed and itll still work fine, why? because it has a 100% chance to make sure your health bar doesnt take damage. the only thing that can make armor somewhat unreliable are snipers and explosives given that they ignore armor gating. that's why the worst enemy of an anarchist main will always be snipers. alternatively for even higher consistency than armor you could run stoic or leech given that those decks throw armor out the window and just focus on health, granted they do it in different ways. armor will always be better than dodge no matter how you look at it, becasue you can always count on it when you need it most. it wont let you down because of bad roll of the dice. however if you want relatively consistent dodge, sicario exists. Sicario straight up lets you stand in front of a swat van and take no health damage WITH the use of the smoke bomb and progressive dodge increase. Sicario and hacker are the best dodge decks in the game, given that they have the highest dodge chances. But point still stands armor will always be better than relying on a roll of the dice to save your ass.
Can't agree here with you. If I were to treat dodge as just a bonus and not something I can use to huge advantage I would never be able to play as aggressively as I do. And with enough focus I can no down 10 heists in a row while reasonably relying on dodge.
@@ace6806 im not saying you cant play aggresively with dodge. Im saying you cant count on a roll of the dice to save your ass, what are you gonna do when that dodge stat doesnt do what you need it to do when you need to? Go back to cover o keep pushing forward? My main issue with dodge are the majority of its users, the ones that constantly count with that roll of the dice as if it were something you can tell when it will or wont work, mostly rogue players. outside of that, its all good.
@@terminallucidity yes i get that. Thats what makes a good dodge player. Like i said my main issue are the majority of rogue mains that make excessively stupid plays expecting dodge to save them. Those people defend that would defend dodge to death saying that a small percentage of dodge is better than armor. I like to reply to that with "skill issue". The truth is that (to my knowledge) for dodge to work and be even remotely "reliable" you need quite a high chance, thats why sicario is so good. Theres only so many shots you can take as sicario before it forces you to dodge. Meanwhile with armor any amount of armor works, granted the more shots it allows you to tank the better.
crook breaks this dodge vs armor comparison
Crook: I'm about to end this man's whole career
i personally prefer muscle instead of armorer, because it heals 3% and makes you into a walking, breathing and talking block of gorilla meat which fell into cement. why? so i dont have to waste my 14 first aid kits when im low and can give them to my teammates and dont have to actively think while walking around with my iron sight with red laser sniper rifle and logger
i havent been here in a while great video and did you change your name?
I did, indeed
@@ace6806 now i remember your old name was yokai
@@bngrex Not wrong : )
Armor, i'd say cuz it could help you survive better and is guaranteed unlike dodge. Plus there is a thing, which is when dodge works your screen goes full white.
What happend to previous channel name?
It gone
Ja próbowałem ARMOR i nie klikło.
Przeniosłem się na sicario, jest bardziej "do wszystkiego" dla mnie. DODGE pozwala na pasywniejszą ochronę ale także gdy trzeba ruszać albo coś zrobić pozwala na szybką i agresywniejszą akcje, plus granat dymny jest świetny pod robienie celu.
Health
Commenting for the algorithm.
'Dodge Or Armour?'
health mains crying in the corner
crying? more like laughing while people argue
where are you from ?
Um, poland
asking for crook builds day 1
YOUR DODGE CANNOT OUT DAMAGE MY ICTV
Berserker crit mains laughing at both
The Henry Cavil meme: "Dodge or Armor?" "Stoic"
kind of disingenuous to not talk about perk decks EG:
Stoic and Leach.
good video but when you said armor your "a" hurt my ears. try some stuff with mic volume
The guy who's voicing my videos purchased a new and actually good microphone recently, so it should be better from now on. The one used in this video is like a $1 headset one
based half life music
Luck has nothing to do with it. Learn about "dodge cooldown".
Ok and below 1.5 sec Mham+ 7.5 ms.
What is dodge cooldown? If you dodge you will dodge everything EQUAL or lower of the damage you dodged. If the damage is higher its a hit.
But that's grace period...
Dodge
Health.
Armor gating :sunglasses:
both are good :bedge:
You are good
Dodge players suck :3
-Armor gang
dodge is a noob-trap
Rogue is, hacker is ez mode
Health》》》
The answer is Leech
See, you got it right :sunglasses: