Why Arming Drones Is Illegal

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июн 2023
  • Ever wondered if it was legal to put a cannon on your trusty drone? Well, you might want to hold off on that. It is very illegal to do so as the FAA will definately deploy their super elite Omega task force if you wer to do so. You think the ATF is bad? The FAA went full bore as they will totally make an example of anyone that tries to do it now. Here at Ordnance Lab, we have done some thorough research and condensed it into an easy to follow video explaining how it isn't something you can do under a few licenses and a lot of budget.
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  • @OrdnanceLab
    @OrdnanceLab  Год назад +172

    We are alive! We appologize for being away for a bit. We had to focus on some other projects going on that were essential in the other aspects of our business. It was painful to watch our metrics plummet faster than Steven Segal's reputation, but it was necessary. Fortunately, we now have the lab and workshop totally finished! So that means we can get making just about any explosive device we desire. Jake is hard at work on the new hell cannon and pumping out all sorts of substances that go boom.
    Have something you want us to test out? Leave us a comment and we will see if it can be done!

    • @Gunga_FAB.50
      @Gunga_FAB.50 Год назад +1

      super glad to hear! had us all worried!

    • @joemorganeatmyshortschannel
      @joemorganeatmyshortschannel Год назад +2

      I have ideas involving us army field manuals then v now and how splody things changed

    • @Ashrazz
      @Ashrazz Год назад +1

      Guys i just love your channel and had watch each and every video of your channel

    • @Jo_Blo
      @Jo_Blo Год назад +4

      Daisy Cutter;)

    • @victormartin2774
      @victormartin2774 Год назад +2

      I have ideas involving concrete and different types of explosively formed penetrators and shaped/hollow charges, just to see the effect of those on what could be fortifications.

  • @valqueenofValhalla
    @valqueenofValhalla Год назад +396

    Meanwhile governments can do it anywhere anytime

    • @S71xx
      @S71xx Год назад +76

      Laws only apply to the serfs not the lawmakers.

    • @ryv2484
      @ryv2484 Год назад +14

      They do what they please

    • @geesixnine
      @geesixnine Год назад

      Mass Civil disobedience is the only way of fighting those governments.

    • @davefletch3063
      @davefletch3063 Год назад +22

      Because they are lawless

    • @parac0sm0naut26
      @parac0sm0naut26 Год назад +8

      Definitely Biden drones on and on, and mumble drones.

  • @Fred-rv2tu
    @Fred-rv2tu Год назад +104

    I’m a helicopter pilot who used to fly explosives. My part of getting signed off for the special permit wasn’t too arduous but I don’t about the process of getting the permit itself. You might look for aviation companies that do seismic work and ask them for some advice for the DOT side of things.

    • @gavincregan7892
      @gavincregan7892 Год назад +3

      Avalanche control is another area that drops explosives from aircraft. You would be doing God's work protecting south Texas from the danger of avalanches.

    • @alexdrockhound9497
      @alexdrockhound9497 Год назад +12

      im not surprised at all that seismic has to transport explosives by aircraft to remote sites.

    • @Fred-rv2tu
      @Fred-rv2tu Год назад

      Oh and the FAA doesn’t think because it will look cool on RUclips is a reason to do anything. You’ll have to tell them you’re developing countermeasures to sell to the army and that you’re developing the drone dropping system to sell to the army given how effective they’ve been in Ukraine. If it’s just for entertainment/ education they won’t go for it.

    • @freedomfalcon
      @freedomfalcon Год назад +14

      There are also avalanche blasting operations done by helicopter.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад

      Is that why planes can't ship batteries & fuel? 💭

  • @marblemarble7113
    @marblemarble7113 Год назад +88

    Government: You cant put weapons on drones thats illegal!
    Americans: oh, thats unfortunate... For you

    • @tonyabsoluteam3456
      @tonyabsoluteam3456 Год назад +6

      lol 🤪

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад

      Also Americans: boast about breaking the law in RUclips comments
      Yeah, "Americans" don't exactly inspire confidence. The government is just Americans that were elected and appointed by said electeds.

    • @billmullins6833
      @billmullins6833 Год назад +13

      Actually you can do what you damned well please IF you are smart enough to NOT ADVERTISE IT ON RUclips! What the feds don't know is highly unlikely to hurt you.

    • @johpfit760
      @johpfit760 Год назад +1

      Your adorable

    • @LunarMARAUDER
      @LunarMARAUDER Год назад +3

      ​@@billmullins6833Yes don't snitch on yourself

  • @wadewilson524
    @wadewilson524 Год назад +63

    Build two towers and run a line between them. Rig up a remote control trolley (with a couple of cameras mounted) with a remote release system. High enough and long enough, it would make a heck of a simulation. Almost all of the fun with no legal headaches.

    • @fatassshibe7285
      @fatassshibe7285 Год назад +13

      i reckon a scissor lift with a very long pole attached to the railings, and some sort of string release system on the end would do just fine for this, unless you're thinking of much higher altitude drops

    • @breadman32398
      @breadman32398 Год назад +2

      I wonder, if a drone is tied to a line like that, is it no longer an aircraft? Might cut out a lot of the red tape.

  • @jlambuth
    @jlambuth Год назад +129

    It has been a busy and rough few months for us, but we got our facility complete. Now that we have the lab up and running, I can squeeze out a ton of stuff! Do let us know what you would like to see blown up.

    • @archismaanrudra876
      @archismaanrudra876 Год назад

      What type of facilities do u provide sir ?

    • @harrypeterson9287
      @harrypeterson9287 Год назад +6

      Maybe some high energy/density stuff or thermobaric compositions. NTZ based stuff, HMX/Al etc.

    • @Mrheeheefish
      @Mrheeheefish Год назад

      Hey I am just wondering but how does your company work like how do you make money if only you can own the weapons legally?

    • @jlambuth
      @jlambuth Год назад +6

      @@harrypeterson9287 thermobarics are in the works. Both with fuel air bombs and grenades.

    • @jlambuth
      @jlambuth Год назад +1

      @@Mrheeheefish we have other entities that provide services such as importation, class 3 arms, and blasting services. We now also sell explosives.

  • @fatman4792
    @fatman4792 Год назад +30

    (sigh) everything i love is either illegal or a war crime

    • @davedavids57
      @davedavids57 Год назад +3

      There's pretty of world out there were it's not.

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад +1

      So, like, torture? What kinds of war crimes we talking here?

    • @johpfit760
      @johpfit760 Год назад

      I don't think you know what war crimes are

    • @dougearnest7590
      @dougearnest7590 11 месяцев назад +3

      It's not waterboarding if you use diesel.

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@dougearnest7590 There are lots of things you can use to skirt the Geneva Conventions: milk, orange juice, hydroflouric acid, sand......

  • @robinpage2730
    @robinpage2730 Год назад +6

    Years ago, FPS Russia strapped a whole-ass full auto Uzi submachine gun to a quad rotor drone and shot up a dummy with it. Super cool and i never knew why he didn't do that again. Now I know.

  • @WvlfDarkfire
    @WvlfDarkfire Год назад +9

    They came back when we needed them most. To answer the question of "could I get imprisoned for this?"

    • @OrdnanceLab
      @OrdnanceLab  Год назад +5

      Always looking out for ya!

    • @WvlfDarkfire
      @WvlfDarkfire Год назад

      @Ordnance Lab that why I love you guys lol your channel is like a "how to America" guide lol keep up the great work brothers

  • @davefletch3063
    @davefletch3063 Год назад +18

    If the FAA is as competent as the rest of the government agencies a guy could probably get away with it

    • @IncredulousIndividual
      @IncredulousIndividual Год назад +11

      Of course you could "get away with it", these guys definitely could. It's not like they could post it on youtube though.

    • @rocketman221projects
      @rocketman221projects Год назад +7

      Not when you post it on the internet.

  • @madladlabs
    @madladlabs Год назад +29

    If you succeed in this journey, could you make a follow-up summary video on the hoops that needed to be jumped through? I've always been curious about what it takes to develop such systems commercially as a smaller business and not Lockheed/Raytheon/Northrup/etc.

    • @OrdnanceLab
      @OrdnanceLab  Год назад +16

      For sure. This is our most rigorous administrative hurdle we have faced so far. We def will document the outcome.

    • @kevinroberts781
      @kevinroberts781 Год назад +7

      All it takes is money. Pay people enough and you can honestly do anything. If Lockheed or Raytheon don't want you around, they will spend even more money to get you shut down or outright destroyed.
      Don't tell people what you do. Do what you want.

    • @tonyabsoluteam3456
      @tonyabsoluteam3456 Год назад

      I want to play too.

    • @madladlabs
      @madladlabs Год назад +2

      @@OrdnanceLab As a little bit of context, I develop flight sim avionics (amongst other military and aviation-related tech) and recently went off on a little bit of a tangent: heads-up displays (a quick short of a very rough proof of concept prototype: ruclips.net/user/shortsa7ILPW2mcYc?feature=share . A much better iteration is underway, but I'm waiting on parts). I think I can make a version that works by clamping to the dash of typical GA planes. Combine that with some sensors and you got a heads-up display with a freefall ballistics computer on the cheap. Of course, simply dropping some dummy weighted munitions isn't against FAA rules as long as it's done safely, but at some point, if I want to test with the real deal, I'd need FAA exemptions.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад +1

      Can't what 4 the how to vid! 😊

  • @kerbalairforce8802
    @kerbalairforce8802 Год назад +11

    Remember to only put airsoft grade items on your drones.

  • @Jo_Blo
    @Jo_Blo Год назад +9

    Possible loophole: doesn't FAA airspace technically start at the eaves of structures, so ~roof level? Just drop one from a drone 10ft up then, and have the drone tethered to the ground somehow, so its not technically transporting for DOT whatnot u spoke of.
    I mean, its not like u need FAA authorization to plant a tree or go on ur roof ffs, so where does their 'airspace' truly begin to be regulated?? *Needs FAA waiver to fly kite*

    • @dustinbrueggemann1875
      @dustinbrueggemann1875 8 месяцев назад +1

      Airspace rights are not as connected to altitude as you think. Throwing grenades out of your treehouse doesn't upset the FAA because the treehouse can't *gain* altitude under its own power. An aircraft is an aircraft, even when its not actively in the air.

  • @freedomfalcon
    @freedomfalcon Год назад +3

    You might want to hit up Gunship Helicopters in Las Vegas. They do helicopter machine gun tours. They probably have some insight on how to handle the FAA side of things. Also there are helicopter avalanche blasting operations done by helicopter, would be worth looking into.

  • @TheBuffaloSamurai
    @TheBuffaloSamurai Год назад +10

    I think a really practical use would be for avalanche control, would save a lot of lives of ski-patrollers, state DOT employees, and backcountry users if they could do precision remote avalanche mitigation. I wonder if UDOT or CDOT has gotten an exception to do this.

    • @rianmach9043
      @rianmach9043 Год назад +1

      There’s videos of people throwing dynamite out of helicopters to set off slabs in CO so I’m sure they have the DOT side figured out at least

    • @khanhgiapham-mi4hg
      @khanhgiapham-mi4hg Год назад

      @@rianmach9043what about the FAA ?

    • @TheBuffaloSamurai
      @TheBuffaloSamurai 11 месяцев назад

      @@chriswaring3783 I'm aware of that, but inplaced guns can only get certain aspects. the military has allow frozen all surplus shells for resorts in the last decade and it's no longer cost effective. drones + dynamite would be able to get to every aspect of the slope.

    • @InsanoBinLooney
      @InsanoBinLooney 11 месяцев назад +1

      In British Colombia, its safest, and cheapest, to just use old WW2 vintage artillery to set off avalanches.

  • @victormartin2774
    @victormartin2774 Год назад +2

    I must say that those calm explanatory video are a cool plus added to the channel. I love your content because it is more than flashy explosions without explanations (I love explosions and flames so don't worry, more of them will always be enjoyed).

  • @tonyabsoluteam3456
    @tonyabsoluteam3456 Год назад +1

    thank you so much for the video! you people over there, deliver some great content. not just because it is a niche area and no one else is really doing it like you's do it, but it is educational and it gives one direction and perspective in the thought process to pursue things legally and legitly!

  • @FullSendRC
    @FullSendRC Год назад +49

    The government keeps putting more and more restrictions on drones. The House now has a bill to ban all DJI drones in the USA.

    • @Glibzer
      @Glibzer Год назад +6

      How will that bill affect rc cars and planes as opposed to the quadcopted

    • @FullSendRC
      @FullSendRC Год назад +4

      As far as I know it will not affect any other remote controlled cars, planes or drones other than DJI products in the US.

    • @kathleenrobertpogue6818
      @kathleenrobertpogue6818 Год назад +21

      Don't get me wrong DJI drones have some amazing capabilities. I however would never own one. Just the fact they can restrict your drone and turn it into a brick is enough to turn me off. But im one of those people into vtol long-range fixed-winges that weigh 20-30 pounds ran off 4g that couldn't care less about regulations.

    • @davefletch3063
      @davefletch3063 Год назад +13

      Declare yourself an independent nation and do what you wish as the founders intended

    • @Matt-xc6sp
      @Matt-xc6sp Год назад

      Because CHI NYA

  • @postaldude7879
    @postaldude7879 Год назад +27

    Owning a tank : 👍
    Puting a gun o a plastic drone : 👮🚓👎

    • @OrdnanceLab
      @OrdnanceLab  Год назад +18

      Nobody said the federal government made sense.

    • @davefletch3063
      @davefletch3063 Год назад +13

      @@OrdnanceLab nobody said they are legitimate

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад

      ​@@davefletch3063 I hear Russia is hiring. Good luck.

    • @davefletch3063
      @davefletch3063 Год назад

      @@johnsmithe4656 they are more legit than our government and their women are better looking

    • @dustinbrueggemann1875
      @dustinbrueggemann1875 8 месяцев назад

      To be fair, I can't buy a tank at Walmart.

  • @uss_liberty_incident
    @uss_liberty_incident Год назад

    Thanks for the transparency!

  • @FullSendRC
    @FullSendRC Год назад +9

    What about if you fly the drone indoors? The FAA does not control the airspace inside of buildings.

    • @OrdnanceLab
      @OrdnanceLab  Год назад +15

      Don't give the FAA ideas. Lol

    • @matthewmahler9212
      @matthewmahler9212 Год назад

      If its a commercial building it would probably end up under fire codes, OSHA, and 10k other agencies purview

    • @youtubesucks-yx6kk
      @youtubesucks-yx6kk Год назад +2

      Hmmm 🤔

    • @dragonhealer7588
      @dragonhealer7588 Год назад

      That's a valid point, but what happens to that giant volume of expanding gas?😮

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад +2

      @@dragonhealer7588 The mission BEGINS indoors.... it ends outdoors.

  • @jeffstablein7206
    @jeffstablein7206 Год назад +27

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed...

    • @zumbazumba1
      @zumbazumba1 Год назад +4

      HELL YES ! Put a musket or a flintlock on a drone as our founding fathers imagined it 300 years ago !

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад

      ​@@zumbazumba1 lol
      So not everyone here is insane. That's nice to know. :)
      The 2A crowd goes waaaaaay too far. The spirit of the 2A as interpreted by the nut jobs would necessitate the legalization of every kind of weapon of war that exists now and will exist in the future. According to the 2A it's your RIGHT to own a nuke, as nukes are arms too, but for some reason the gun people are not clamoring for the true lack of limits they preach about regularly, they just want their boom sticks that they can buy for a couple thousand at a local shop, not the actual equipment that would be required for them to actually win a modern war. What Ukraine is receiving, that's what's needed. Boom sticks are nice, but they're a tiny piece of the puzzle.

    • @johpfit760
      @johpfit760 Год назад

      Are you part of a well regulated militia?

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад +3

      @@johpfit760 I can answer for him.
      No. No he's not.

    • @wrongoloid4749
      @wrongoloid4749 Год назад +2

      WELL REGULATED

  • @ChEMIKNEPSPP
    @ChEMIKNEPSPP Год назад +4

    Glad to c y'all alive, and having all your fingers on place

    • @OrdnanceLab
      @OrdnanceLab  Год назад +5

      Amazingly, we still have all our digits. Our sanity is gone, but we have our limbs.

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад +2

      @@OrdnanceLab Limbs are generally over rated, all you need is arms.

  • @MegaBCAD
    @MegaBCAD Год назад

    So happy to to see you back was getting a bit worried

  • @davedave9552
    @davedave9552 Год назад +1

    I love how educated everyone is in this channel. I’d love to see if you’re hiring.

  • @rickgames634
    @rickgames634 Год назад +7

    "You think the ATF is bad" no I think all alphabet agencies are!

  • @jimdickey6492
    @jimdickey6492 Год назад

    Glad to see you guys back, I was growing concerned.

  • @martkbanjoboy8853
    @martkbanjoboy8853 Год назад +2

    Make a scaffolding. Have the devices tethered or otherwise supported. Have a 'striker disc' that simulates the deaccelleration of the device if dropped from height x. The striker plate would jump up under spring tension or pneumatic force (calibrated to some extent.) The device would be suspended there with some kind of support on the tail end. Proceed.
    The FAA or the DOT do not have scaffolding regulations in their mandate.
    I read that Stuart Macrae did work on aerial bomb fuzes. They were not able to access warplanes and pilots that could drop the test bombs on their range. They had to get around this. What they did was rig up a mortar (possibly a Blacker Bombard) to accept a cup that fit nicely in the bore of the mortar or on the mortar spigot. The test bomb and fuze rested in the cup with some annular clearance. They simply fired the test munition at a steep angle. The cup separated from the test munition and allowed the test munition to come down aerodynamically. And so forth. Just an idea that may be more boring than what you would like to do.

  • @benkonopetski2894
    @benkonopetski2894 11 месяцев назад +1

    You guys are great 👍

  • @Matt-xc6sp
    @Matt-xc6sp Год назад +28

    Russians hate this one weird trick!

    • @OrdnanceLab
      @OrdnanceLab  Год назад +10

      Lol

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 Год назад

      @@OrdnanceLab If you figure out the red tape, I've got another weird trick the Russians would hate... drone mounted electrically ignited recoilless 12ga shotgun tube. Just blow the shell and a specific weight out the back...

    • @scrappydoo7887
      @scrappydoo7887 Год назад +3

      ​@@mfree80286 why bother with a shotgun when you can drop mortars or grenades?

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад +2

      @@scrappydoo7887 Video from trenches in Ukraine show just how effective drone-dropped ordnance can be. Guys fire up with their rifles, trying to hit the drones, and the drones drop hell on their heads. In the Rock Papers Scissors of modern warfare, Drones+Nades > Small Arms every time.

    • @scrappydoo7887
      @scrappydoo7887 Год назад

      @@johnsmithe4656 so, you've gotten this backwards.
      What is the point of a shotgun on a drone if you can drop explosives?
      A shotgun is pointless unless you are talking about anti drone drones

  • @gorilla_with_jetpack4102
    @gorilla_with_jetpack4102 Год назад

    I LOVE YOUR INTO SONG! You guys are fun!

  • @76dg15
    @76dg15 Год назад

    Hell yeah, finally some good content

  • @greylocke100
    @greylocke100 Год назад +2

    I know you may not like this suggestion, but there is or was a "Drone" education program down at A&M Corpus. You might need to work with an "Educational" facility already "Licensed" and "Authorized" to do what you are thinking of. The thing is, it actually might not be a bad plan, as they can get access to a range and you could get shield coverage from them on both legal and financial parts.

  • @abitofapickle6255
    @abitofapickle6255 Год назад +1

    Video suggestion: Recreate the 75mm M48 HE shell. That way we can see how effective that round is since it was mostly used against soft targets in WW2.

  • @MaxVonArdelean
    @MaxVonArdelean Год назад

    I will love to see that

  • @EVLfreak666
    @EVLfreak666 Год назад

    We missed you guy's ❤️

  • @6F6G
    @6F6G 5 дней назад

    The quadcoptor with the gatling gun in the thumbnail probably wouldn't hit anything but the recoil would make it really shift.

  • @alexdrockhound9497
    @alexdrockhound9497 Год назад +1

    i wonder how often remote mines have to file for exceptions with DOT to transport explosives via aircraft to their mine-sites.

  • @westtexas806
    @westtexas806 Год назад +4

    Good thing about laws no matter what you do it's not illegal till you get caught. If you don't get caught your still an upstanding law abiding citizen or a politician.

    • @johnrice1943
      @johnrice1943 Год назад +4

      Politicians usually get caught and face no charges

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад

      Great legal advice, glad to know serial murder isn't illegal after all. Boy is THAT a relief! Whew!

  • @thebloodtrail
    @thebloodtrail Год назад

    I got a question, could you get a exception to rearm a former war plane like a F4 Phantom, or say a Cessna 150 to be armed with say a .50 cal

  • @keld101
    @keld101 Год назад +7

    It's funny you can make a video explaining why you can't make a video and because of how like-minded our community is we're all interested in hearing why. Like we all have a little lawyer inside of us just drooling at the idea of learning more rules.

  • @billskinner623
    @billskinner623 Год назад

    Could you drop something without an explosive in it? Practice rounds use chalk or flour as a marker, are those under the same rules?

  • @thefirespectrum
    @thefirespectrum Год назад +4

    How "armed" is "armed"? Could you mount a paintball gun to a drone? Inert metal in the shape of another device? Just questions.

  • @jackcrawford6078
    @jackcrawford6078 Год назад

    you could still do mock up flights with practice grenades. Perhaps, hit the target and set off a Tannerite charge?

  • @jrunner5k
    @jrunner5k Год назад

    could you load Airsoft "grenades" onto a drone since spring loaded or CO2 powered airsoft "grenades" arent regulated by the DOT/ATF/FAA?

  • @ucitymetalhead
    @ucitymetalhead Год назад +4

    Gotta love needing the governments permission to do anything.

  • @jjhw2941
    @jjhw2941 11 месяцев назад

    IANAL however my understanding in English law that is, is that all the flying and transportation regulation apply to flying in "free space" i.e. outdoors. This means you could fly indoors, now indoors could be an area that is enclosed with some form of netting such that the drone could not escape outside that netting, then you'd not be covered by the regs, at least in England. As you are in the USA YMMV.

  • @RollerCoasterLineProductions
    @RollerCoasterLineProductions 11 месяцев назад

    Da gubbamint is terrified of drones being used in an attack, but soon enough they’ll be using them on us.

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis Месяц назад

    Whats the slippery slope between "armed drone", loitering minutioms, cruise missle and kamakaze bomber?

  • @ZachSwena
    @ZachSwena 11 месяцев назад

    I spoke with my local FSDO about something similar to this a while ago, and it should be possible to do with fireworks/explosives under section 333 operations. Of course other local/federal agencies need to be coordinated with also. They do Pyro on aircraft at airshows already under section 333. Not sure about actual frag ordinance though...

  • @stevesjurset4880
    @stevesjurset4880 Год назад

    Good luck you guys.

  • @charleswarden291
    @charleswarden291 Год назад +1

    I clicked this video expecting...well, I don't know exactly, but I figured my comment would have "It's illegal because the 1%ers blahblahblah" in it somewhere...It's so cool that your explaination got the point across so well. You basicly said all the kinds of things I would've thought, but in true Texan fashion you said it with grace. I wish you luck with your hoop jumping and can hardly wait to see the video...

  • @Ashrazz
    @Ashrazz Год назад

    Try testing the damage of fragmantation grenade at long ranges

  • @rdsmith334
    @rdsmith334 Год назад

    Regarding DOT and airspace… my ~understanding~ is that your “property” extends up to the height of the tallest structure on your property.

  • @johnladuke6475
    @johnladuke6475 Год назад +3

    As this is the internet, I can assure you that I am in fact a lawyer, specializing in aviation, and can give all kinds of totally valid legal advice for free. You can assure the government that your lawyer is also a doctor and multiple Nobel Prize winner, they'll be much more cooperative.
    I won't be able to get the RCMP off your back, though. The Mounties always get their man.

  • @MrSnowlver
    @MrSnowlver Год назад +1

    There was a paintball field nearby that got the FAA up their ass for having a paintball marker (not a weapon) drone mounted and used IN paintball games.
    I make flame effects and put on fire shows and wanted to incorporate a flamethrower on a drone (you can even buy the flamethrower) to use in a show. I approached th FAA as they claimed you could get a waiver if you had a legit use. It was too much of a red tape nightmare for what it was worth. We'll just stick with 100s of ft high flame effects.

  • @ruthlessrubberducky5729
    @ruthlessrubberducky5729 Год назад +1

    Did they specify what is classified as a weapon? That sounds like an easily construed definition.

  • @bumpmail9169
    @bumpmail9169 Год назад

    0:45 wouldnt the goliath mine qualify as a armed drone (though not a flying one) ?

  • @theamericanextremist
    @theamericanextremist Год назад +43

    Don’t obey unconstitutional laws
    RIP Marvin

    • @genericusername9997
      @genericusername9997 Год назад +11

      Happy Killdozer month, never forget that great American hero.

    • @kevinroberts781
      @kevinroberts781 Год назад +2

      Exactly right. I use to love this channel. They are feds now. Hell bent on taking our rights

    • @GilmerJohn
      @GilmerJohn Год назад +4

      Well, the true "bottom line" is Don't Get Caught.

    • @kevinroberts781
      @kevinroberts781 Год назад

      @@GilmerJohn get caught doing what?

    • @Legitpenguins99
      @Legitpenguins99 Год назад

      If you don't mind rotting in prison and paying exorbitant fines than be my guest just to prove a point

  • @jd3497
    @jd3497 8 месяцев назад +1

    Would it be simpler to buy some land south of you and open Ordinance Lab Mexico?

  • @justmeisthatok7990
    @justmeisthatok7990 3 месяца назад

    Unless its for display purposes. Its art man. Add ti for sparks

  • @cheagle464
    @cheagle464 Год назад

    I first saw drones in a Roadrunner episode where Wiley Coyote bought a bunch of gliders and strapped dynamite onto then to try and get that dam bird. I think he even had some kind ground control station.😂😂
    Another was in a book that had some kind of high speed fpv with a rapid fire .22 aboard as an assassin's tool.
    So the idea had been around for a long time.

  • @sonofnone116
    @sonofnone116 Год назад +1

    Meanwhile, garandthumb dropped "grenades" from a drone on his buddys 😂

  • @patrickw9520
    @patrickw9520 Год назад +1

    Get a DARPA/DoD development contract, then you're exempt from many of those regs, or automatic exception for those, plus exemption of many fees, license reqt, etc.
    You want a atty who has worked with DoD contractors and the like, who knows what all is needed.

  • @hytekrednekbama4400
    @hytekrednekbama4400 9 месяцев назад

    "Not to be infringed" !!!!! seems pretty clear to me.

  • @CommitPesticideWorldwide
    @CommitPesticideWorldwide 11 месяцев назад +2

    I feel like they should be legal if used for home defense... and used in defense against enemies of liberty both foreign and domestic... Also for law enforcement against active-shooters.

  • @Xanderviceory
    @Xanderviceory 2 месяца назад

    I'm hoping you guys get your licences to do some fun video projects by the book.

  • @user-qs9sy5ux9u
    @user-qs9sy5ux9u 11 месяцев назад

    what model is the dron

  • @busterhyman103
    @busterhyman103 Год назад

    Millions of us boycott advertised products unless they are at the end of the video. Your sponsor is not the only show in town.

  • @ericferguson9989
    @ericferguson9989 3 месяца назад

    Can you drop inert things, like Nerf Darts?

  • @saosaqii5807
    @saosaqii5807 Год назад +2

    Kinda doesn’t matter if it’s illegal. If someone gonna do it nothing is stopping them. By the time anybody knocks on their door it’s kinda already too late.

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад

      Same could be said for human trafficking. What exactly are you confessing to here?

    • @clayton8or
      @clayton8or 11 месяцев назад

      @@johnsmithe4656 confessing to? what are you, the laziest investegator on earth? he made a point that you entirely avoided and simply threatened something vague. I will add and "confess" that i have done illegal things before, everyone has done illegal things before. its basically impossible to not have done illegal things.

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@clayton8or My point was that it's stupid to say "let's not make it illegal, because people are going to do it anyway." Yeah, people are going to do illegal shit sometimes. Doesn't mean you don't have laws at all. Serial killers gonna kill cereal, doesn't mean we make it okay to kill cereal. Right? LoL
      You can say about literally ANYTHING that's illegal, "people will do it anyway, so meh." It's an argument born in laziness and bias. We would never not make something illegal just because people will still do that illegal thing. There's zero precedence for that.

  • @WilliamAshleyOnline
    @WilliamAshleyOnline Год назад

    Garand thumb did an armed drone video but he was using like flash bangs. Does't the FAA only regulate airspace above a certain height like 200feet or something. In the United States, the federal government states that in non-congested areas, the area above 500 feet is navigable airspace. Which means you have the right to use up to that height on your property. In general, you can only fly your drone in uncontrolled airspace below 400 feet above the ground ( AGL ). Commercial drone operators are required to get permission from the FAA before flying in controlled airspace. The prevailing understanding is that a property owner can claim airspace that they are actually using (e.g., the trees and building structures on your property that occupy “your” airspace), but all other airspace is regulated by the FAA. By 1940, Congress
    had legislated that “[t]he United States of America is hereby declared to possess and exercise
    complete and exclusive national sovereignty in the air space above the United States.” 49 U.S.C. §
    176(a) (1940) (current version at 49 U.S.C. § 1508(a) (1976)). Congress also recognized and declared
    that every citizen of the United States has “a public right of freedom of transit in air commerce through
    the navigable air space of the United States.” 49 U.S.C. § 403 (1940) (current version at 49 U.S.C. §
    1304 (1976)). “Navigable airspace” was then defined as “airspace above the minimum safe altitudes
    of flight prescribed by the Civil Aeronautics Authority [CAA].” 49 U.S.C. § 180 (1940).
    In United States v. Causby, the Supreme Court of the United States in 1946 provided guidance on
    where private property rights of airspace end and navigable airspace begins. In Causby, a farmer
    lived adjacent to a military airport where aircraft flew as low as 83 feet over the farmer’s property.
    As a result, the noise from the aircraft startled the farmer’s chickens, causing them to fly into walls,
    causing their death. The court found that the navigable airspace that Congress had placed in the
    public domain was airspace above what was deemed the minimum safe altitude (MSA), and it put
    forth two key principles regarding airspace below the MSA. First, landowners have “exclusive control
    of the immediate reaches of the enveloping atmosphere.” Second, landowners own at least as much
    of the space above the ground as they can occupy or use in connection with the land. The court ruled
    in favor of the farmer but did not decide where the precise boundaries of public airspace above the
    farm meet the immediate reaches of the farmer’s property and how high state government’s rights
    extended.
    After the decision in Causby, as part of the Federal Aviation Act of 1958, Pub.L. No. 85-726, 72 Stat.
    731, Congress redefined “navigable airspace” to mean “airspace above the minimum altitudes of
    flight prescribed by regulations issued under this chapter, and shall include airspace needed to [e]
    nsure safety in take-off and landing of aircraft.” 49 U.S.C. § 1301(26) (1976) You could do it indoors.. e FAA has also determined that since these aircraft can fly almost
    anywhere, the FAA concluded that the UAS’s “navigable airspace” under FAA supervision includes
    all airspace that is not indoors.1
    The FAA by its regulatory position has basically eliminated the
    superadjacent airspace recognized by the U.S. Supreme Court.

  • @norwegianwiking
    @norwegianwiking Год назад

    Really believer FAA already had something for arming drones before 2018, theyve always had a thing about having live guns on warbirds.

  • @SuicideNeil
    @SuicideNeil Год назад +2

    Meh, just build a giant slingshot and launch them into the air- it would simulate dropping things from a drone at a few hundred feet regardless- just talk to Joerg...

  • @andronuss
    @andronuss 11 месяцев назад

    What If you make it a drone crop duster and drop a explosives that spreds a fertilizer or seed over a field or a water bomber that drops bombs

  • @craigpalmer9196
    @craigpalmer9196 Год назад

    what would the rcmp require? ;]

  • @LTCDRRAZOR
    @LTCDRRAZOR Год назад +1

    Thow shalt not arm drones. The end.
    Is that anything like “shall not be infringed”?

  • @kevinroberts781
    @kevinroberts781 Год назад

    What federal agency do you work for?

  • @pyrocircus129
    @pyrocircus129 11 месяцев назад

    You guys should redo the bottle cap mine and try to make a fat man that actually shoots out a mini nuke with a big flash powder charge

  • @twistedyogert
    @twistedyogert 8 месяцев назад

    What about mounting paintball guns to one?

  • @iant2064
    @iant2064 Год назад

    "How can we make the most highly regulated device possible?" lol you should add an x-ray guided DDT sprayer and sell shares of it on the NYSE.

  • @Ammothief41
    @Ammothief41 Год назад

    What about ground based drones? At least avoiding the FAA since nothings flying?

  • @matthewmahler9212
    @matthewmahler9212 Год назад +1

    You'd think that they would make the processes simple like if you have a license/operators certificate, FFL/SOT, FEL that You'd be ok for R&D just as ling as you kept records of what was expended

    • @jnelson4765
      @jnelson4765 Год назад

      If enough people do it they'll put an administrative process in place but the first ones gotta lead with their chin.

    • @dustinbrueggemann1875
      @dustinbrueggemann1875 8 месяцев назад

      The problem is that aircraft have an inherent ability to wander, even without meaning to. If the feds themselves can lose an entire F-35 in a training exercise, imagine how badly a couple of jackasses in south Texas could lose a UAV full of live ordnance. It's not about the boom itself, but the where and the how.

  • @dronelabs556
    @dronelabs556 Год назад

    So it was you that sprayed water on my ammonium nitrate! 😂😂 as someone who has gotten waviers from the FAA. It does reaches a point where it’s cheaper to leave the US to inviolate these kinds of munitions or aircraft at your scale.

  • @tyty123357
    @tyty123357 Год назад

    Is it just me....I really wanted him to throw that grenade at the end!

  • @Fubarru81
    @Fubarru81 Год назад

    Question, what if you anchor the grenade so that it don't move, then hook a cable to the pin and then to the drone and have it fly away pulling the pin out, would that create an illegal drone?

    • @OrdnanceLab
      @OrdnanceLab  Год назад +4

      Since the drone isn't actively flying in the air with a weapon, technically, it isn't armed. That doesn't mean the FAA can't magically add to its definition of armed drone.

    • @davefletch3063
      @davefletch3063 Год назад

      @@OrdnanceLab faa can suck it. Don’t post evidence against yourself and what the6 don’t know won’t hurt them, lol

  • @rawslice
    @rawslice 10 месяцев назад

    Edwin was able to do it, can ask him what he had to do to get authorization.

  • @berryreading4809
    @berryreading4809 Год назад +1

    You could always do inert payload capacity/accuracy testing with a real drone, followed up by a live height drop using a elevated line as a stand in... Or go full on zipline stadium camera setup- poor man version, but with a drone body dropping live ordnance instead of a camera rig 🤣 Hopefully there are some tall trees around 😉 If you do go with a line setup for live testing, even static drops small diameter chyneema (junk import copy dyneema cordage/rope) is strong, lightweight, and low stretch, plus probably cheaper than similar size steel cable, atleast the knockoff import stuff... You may have to rent a boom lift with a basket or bucket truck for rigging though, unless you know a guy in your area that owns one... Almost any large construction company will have a large boom lift/basket, and alot of tree service or commercial electricians have personally owned bucket trucks 👍 Although still alot more work than just 3D printing a few components and hooking up a servo to the drone light output before making some fairly small booms 😒

  • @unlimitedj06
    @unlimitedj06 Год назад +40

    👿👿👿 They are only illegal because the government hates competition. 👿👿👿

    • @kevinroberts781
      @kevinroberts781 Год назад +5

      Exactly right. Pay to play. You better have more money than the other weapons Mfgs

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Год назад +1

      Welcome to every nation that has ever existed. Yes, the government wants a monopoly on violence. In other news, water is wet.
      If the US is ever invaded by an outside force then these kinds of restrictions would be lifted immediately and people would be sent drones and grenades and launch devices. Most governments don't allow the arming of their citizens unless shit is going down. And when shit is going down they tend to hand out weapons like candy. This is what saved Kyiv last year.

    • @johpfit760
      @johpfit760 Год назад +1

      There are a lot of private companies that have the permits to build armed drones.

    • @LunarMARAUDER
      @LunarMARAUDER Год назад +1

      ​@@johpfit760As long as you pay up they will let you but if you are a common person oh hell no

    • @johpfit760
      @johpfit760 Год назад

      @@LunarMARAUDER you are not that smart are you?
      If you have the right permits you can do it if not you can't.

  • @Equals488
    @Equals488 3 месяца назад

    Airport manager, use an airshow permit. Like smoke fireworks on wing tips.
    Your welcome.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Год назад

    Wow

  • @RichardCranium321
    @RichardCranium321 Год назад

    What about black powder guns?

  • @ActionAdventureTwins
    @ActionAdventureTwins Год назад +2

    I saw a drone fly a dildo up to a political meeting or something like that once in a video. Definitely hilarious but wouldn't be funny if it was a grenade

  • @DanBowkley
    @DanBowkley 11 месяцев назад

    You have a grenade and a drone together on the same table, that's constructive possession of an armed UAV! 😂

  • @nealkrueger6097
    @nealkrueger6097 Год назад +2

    Just a querry ,would a inert object carried by a drone such as a "lazydog" or a printed solid munitions with a ballistic shape simmular to a lawndart still be illegal under the governmental rules and regulations? Or something like the old fashioned kids toy that took snapcaps in the nose and went pop when the shuuttle cock looking devices nose impacted with the ground. We are talking 1960 to late 70s timeframe when the tou was popular. It took snap gun caps that came on a roll or took the little plastic tubes looking like a toy shotgun primer. I was just wondering if that would skirt the rules. Since RC aircraft used to be able to drop simulated scale bombs that you filled with powdered chalk or flour. When the scale aircraft dropped off the simulated bomb and impacted a puff of chalk was dispensed. There if I remember correctly were RC flying compations doing bombing runs ,and the goal was to drop the payload in a target circle center being about 12 inch in diameter. Scoring was 5 points for the center circle and 4 points for the next circle being a foot between the ring boundaries. Then down to 0 points for anything outside the last ring. I even think that there were CO2 powered all plastic rockets that could be also used for the larger Rc planes with a similar hollow nose with the chalk. This is a plastic version of what I remember. There also was a pot metal version as well. payload.www.etsy.com/listing/1194872196/1960s-double-action-cap-bombs-cap-rocket

  • @alouiciousjackson5812
    @alouiciousjackson5812 Год назад +1

    Don't forget the time FPS Russia mounted a frigging Gatling gun to one LOL

    • @khanhgiapham-mi4hg
      @khanhgiapham-mi4hg Год назад

      he mounted a glock if i remembered correctly.

    • @alouiciousjackson5812
      @alouiciousjackson5812 Год назад

      @@khanhgiapham-mi4hg Maybe but I remember some kind of machine gun also, now I'm curious to go back and find that video!

  • @carsandcigarsautoreviewsan9073
    @carsandcigarsautoreviewsan9073 11 месяцев назад

    someday id like a video on why disarming people is itself an act of terrorism

  • @beargillium2369
    @beargillium2369 11 месяцев назад

    Maybe get some prototype done using airsoft grenade?

  • @RustyShackleford556
    @RustyShackleford556 Год назад +4

    It's not illegal if nobody knows about it

  • @smugfrog8111
    @smugfrog8111 Год назад +1

    Nope, I checked and none of this is mentioned in the only law that matters regarding arms. It only says "shall not be infringed." I'm gonna need to see some documentation from 1791 that says I can't arm my drones.