With so many ultrawide monitors these days it's a shame none of these brands give supported resolutions in the specs, I would consider buying one if I was sure it worked with 5120x1440p
I would add there is a firmware update to this unit that makes some improvements. Albeit I had to install mine manually. There was an audio buzz issue out of box that was fixed via the firmware update. This card now works much more effeciently after the firmware update as well.
I can’t decide and would like you opinion bro….wich one would you suggest I buy. I’m streaming via ps5 Avermedia 2.1 4k Or asus 2.1 4k pro I can’t decide
Still rocking my AverMedia BU110. Got it just before COVID and has been solid in daily use all day every day since COVID allowed me to WFH for work zoom calls with my Mirroless Camera.
Picked up an Elgato 4K X the other day and the OBS preview works great. I've noticed that sometimes it becomes laggy and I have to reconnect the cable. HDR doesn't work properly on Mac it seems too which is the only downer (Apple's fault). Been using iPad Camo Studio too but it only supports up to 60fps so bought some random crash-grab app that simply shows the camera input and FPS selector and it works pretty well. Currently using it for a in-car PS5 + inverter + battery project I just put together. Using MacBook Pro or Steam Deck as the monitor. Much simpler than a Sunshine/Moonlight combo. Very happy overall and bought it based on your review and OBS Preview Input latency chart so thanks!
I really wish EVGA continued making capture cards, I really like the XR1 Pro. Such a good value, especially for non-gaming content. I use it to capture all of my test machines and guides.
Nice i think i give that capture card a try :) One Question did you ever tryed Vokuder in Adobe Premiere or Vegas or anything that vokuder supports? It changes so lot for me in speed of rendering. Would love to know your opinion in Qualy and settings.
So it seems like with the nrw hdmi 2.1 capture cards. Unless you want to game in 120fps and capture 4k 60 over USB. Your current or even last gen cards are probably just fine. Im still rocking the 4k60 pro mk.2 pci e. Use it for capturing gaming tutorials on console, gameplay and some times other hdmi decices when i want direct screen capture. I feel like the only true sucessor is someoone getting a proper veeison of thr 4K60s+ to work consistently.
Seems like pretty cool capture box, but as a Linux user it would be nice to see more Display Port options with these capture boxes and cards especially with HDMI 2.1 being out of the game unless binary blobs are used. Though if I ever get my old consoles shipped to where I currently live this'll do just fine and it's nice that there are so many options to choose from if I were to capture console output.
I'm not sure if I have a defective model. But I find that mine chips out the audio at certain moments even if it isn't capturing. But on the recorded capture, the audio is fine and plays out how its supposed to. So I think this is due to the device getting hot. Even though what I capture (the actual recording from obs) is fine, I'm still disappointed about how the audio does that on the HDMI output. I Think I might return it smh.
Hey, i have a question which i think has never been answered by anyone. The volume setting on the input aux in the capture box, how do you manage it seems to be extremely low.
So I guess this means the Elgato 4K X is still the only true HDMI2.1 capture card that actually captures 4K120/144. Worst part of that is the fact it is also the cheapest.
Any HDMI 2.1 capable capture card is a "true" HDMI 2.1 capture card. Most HDMI 2.0 capture cards couldn't capture native 4K60. Passthrough is what matters, only a handful of people actually have a use for 4K120 recordings.
The Elgato 4K X on OBS Studio is a trial and error ordeal that never seems to record at the quality of an AverMedia Recording Software. Also about the Elgato Game Capture, it is impossible to capture at 4K30HDR, because there is no such live switch, instead it records only at 2K60HDR from a 4K120HDR source and it can mess up the audio after circa 15 minutes of recording on ZERO OBJECTIVE GROUNDS. Thus, ruining an hour of gameplay footage just because things can go south.
I mean, it only supports 4k30/1080p60 for one, so you won’t be able to use most PC gaming monitor formats, and a lot of people *do* want passthrough for that kind of setup
First thought: will these 2.1 cards turn an iPad Pro into a 120Hz HDR Monitor? If it does/will, the incoming m3 iPad Pro would be worth their price increase
I'd love to see a new video where we can find out which of the capture cards would work very well with the latest new VR gaming headsets, such as Meta Quest 2, PSVR 2, etc., so that we VR horror gamers/streamers can figure out which would work well. Thanks! Other than that, I appreciate this video and have learned a lot about the differences (and some similarities) about this capture card vs. the others, and it definitely helped me know which capture cards I intend to buy very soon!
Whoa. None of the above. Your best and probably only option is with PCVR capturing the steam VR preview and picking one eye as the preview output, THEN full screen the preview on the capture card output. If not then OBS on the same PC to capture the window of that same preview. The reasons are this: 1. The headset is display port out or USB-C out. 2. If the VR headset is HDMI. Using a passthrough doesn't give the software driving the VR headset the correct display identifier. AKA when you use the capture card as an output it identifies the display as the capture card 'AVT GC573' for the avermedia live gamer 4k. Or 3. The headset is wireless. What do you expect. Lol Source: my 2 PC setup, and various PCVR products and their temperamental setups.
@@taxa1569 ahh, I learned something new now. It's been a confusing journey getting it all set up eventually not just with a 2 PC setup, but also with consoles that does VR games, such as the PSVR and the PSVR2, so definitely been a LONG LEARNING PROCESS. Thanks for your insights - I appreciate it!
@@LKTheHorrorNerd definitely sorry to say it but good luck in your endeavours. I WILL say though. I don't know how the PSVR works. If the console mirrors what a single eye or central rendering of what's being sent to the headset (shows on your tv what you're looking at in VR). You may be able to capture the console out? This would require testing but if that's the VR product you have, then you can only benefit by finding out if that does work! :)
Quick question outside of this video. If you have a 12th gen or above intel CPU with UHD 770 graphics, can you av1 encode off of those graphics? Say if you were to have like an AMD 6000 series or Nvidia 3000 series gpu that can't AV1. encode. I looked it up on Google to see if it's possible but I'm not sure. And no I don't mean CPU AV1 encoding because that's very inefficient.
@@EposVox i ask because i remember a guy testing the 2.0 capture cards and on 4k/60 they introduced input lag and latency while up to 2k they didn't. Maybe it was a mistake?
@@EposVox ok maybe then it was with monitor clone what i remembered. I now use monitor cloning on 2k 240hz and all i get is tearing on recordings or stream since the capture is done at 2k/144 with avermedia 573 card. Do u think if i change and go to 4k 240 monitor I will need the new capture cards?
@@EposVox Well what does? We can't just come to a standstill. Wouldn't having a capture card at 240hz and a monitor at 540hz cause screen tearing? If I'm wrong, please correct me since that's how I think of it. (Mismatched frames)
DisplayPort. For which there are no modern capture cards. You’re on the bleeding edge of display tech so you either have to sacrifice capture or accept workarounds
@@EposVox What exactly would these workarounds be? If a dual PC setup is not feasible due to this issue, then a single PC setup would be the alternative. However, I tend to avoid this option for a variety of reasons.
With so many ultrawide monitors these days it's a shame none of these brands give supported resolutions in the specs, I would consider buying one if I was sure it worked with 5120x1440p
Ultra wide is just stupid.
Human eyesight doesn’t work like that.
I would add there is a firmware update to this unit that makes some improvements. Albeit I had to install mine manually.
There was an audio buzz issue out of box that was fixed via the firmware update. This card now works much more effeciently after the firmware update as well.
Ultrawide resolution support ?
I can’t decide and would like you opinion bro….wich one would you suggest I buy. I’m streaming via ps5
Avermedia 2.1 4k
Or asus 2.1 4k pro
I can’t decide
Is there currently a capture card that works with 1080p 360hz passthrough?
No. There’s not really any monitors that support it over HDMI either tho
@@EposVoxoh, thanks 😢
360 Hz is so retarded.
Still rocking my AverMedia BU110. Got it just before COVID and has been solid in daily use all day every day since COVID allowed me to WFH for work zoom calls with my Mirroless Camera.
Picked up an Elgato 4K X the other day and the OBS preview works great. I've noticed that sometimes it becomes laggy and I have to reconnect the cable. HDR doesn't work properly on Mac it seems too which is the only downer (Apple's fault). Been using iPad Camo Studio too but it only supports up to 60fps so bought some random crash-grab app that simply shows the camera input and FPS selector and it works pretty well. Currently using it for a in-car PS5 + inverter + battery project I just put together. Using MacBook Pro or Steam Deck as the monitor. Much simpler than a Sunshine/Moonlight combo. Very happy overall and bought it based on your review and OBS Preview Input latency chart so thanks!
I really wish EVGA continued making capture cards, I really like the XR1 Pro. Such a good value, especially for non-gaming content. I use it to capture all of my test machines and guides.
Nice i think i give that capture card a try :)
One Question did you ever tryed Vokuder in Adobe Premiere or Vegas or anything that vokuder supports? It changes so lot for me in speed of rendering. Would love to know your opinion in Qualy and settings.
Excuse me but was that a Kaiba Corp case? If so, amazing! 😆🤣
Of course
Do you think the ASUS TUB Capture Box will work with the iPad that supports UVC. Elgato ones work fine with the iPad
So it seems like with the nrw hdmi 2.1 capture cards. Unless you want to game in 120fps and capture 4k 60 over USB. Your current or even last gen cards are probably just fine. Im still rocking the 4k60 pro mk.2 pci e. Use it for capturing gaming tutorials on console, gameplay and some times other hdmi decices when i want direct screen capture.
I feel like the only true sucessor is someoone getting a proper veeison of thr 4K60s+ to work consistently.
Unless you want HDMI 2.1 capabilities you don’t need a HDMI 2.1 capture card, correct… that is how specs work indeed lol
Seems like pretty cool capture box, but as a Linux user it would be nice to see more Display Port options with these capture boxes and cards especially with HDMI 2.1 being out of the game unless binary blobs are used.
Though if I ever get my old consoles shipped to where I currently live this'll do just fine and it's nice that there are so many options to choose from if I were to capture console output.
What about 4k60 on console while using Mac silicon. Which capture card will deliver 4k 60 and maybe with HDR
Linux?
I'm not sure if I have a defective model. But I find that mine chips out the audio at certain moments even if it isn't capturing. But on the recorded capture, the audio is fine and plays out how its supposed to. So I think this is due to the device getting hot. Even though what I capture (the actual recording from obs) is fine, I'm still disappointed about how the audio does that on the HDMI output. I Think I might return it smh.
Hey, i have a question which i think has never been answered by anyone.
The volume setting on the input aux in the capture box, how do you manage it seems to be extremely low.
So I guess this means the Elgato 4K X is still the only true HDMI2.1 capture card that actually captures 4K120/144. Worst part of that is the fact it is also the cheapest.
Any HDMI 2.1 capable capture card is a "true" HDMI 2.1 capture card. Most HDMI 2.0 capture cards couldn't capture native 4K60. Passthrough is what matters, only a handful of people actually have a use for 4K120 recordings.
@@EposVoxlike me with my sony a9iii coming tomorrow :D
Yup. Elgato is cheaper and better. This new card is mid
@@DorfyBoione important thing to note is right now the avermedia is the only one compatible with 360hz monitors from what I know
Pero si mal no recuerdo no puede capturar 4k60 HDR mientras que hay otra capturadora que es de avermedia que si puede
When I go on Amazon it says this card is HDMI 2.0?
does this support ultrawide resolutions?
How well does this work on linux?
Bomb Rush Cyberfunk!! How do you like that game?
The Elgato 4K X on OBS Studio is a trial and error ordeal that never seems to record at the quality of an AverMedia Recording Software.
Also about the Elgato Game Capture, it is impossible to capture at 4K30HDR, because there is no such live switch, instead it records only at 2K60HDR from a 4K120HDR source and it can mess up the audio after circa 15 minutes of recording on ZERO OBJECTIVE GROUNDS.
Thus, ruining an hour of gameplay footage just because things can go south.
Which of these (or other) capture cards would you suggest for RetroTink 4k capture?
Any of them. You just need 4k60 so pcie from last generation or either of these 3 new usb ones
I have a question
Why can’t we just use the Elgato Cam link 4k while using dual pc setup because no need for the pass through ?
I mean, it only supports 4k30/1080p60 for one, so you won’t be able to use most PC gaming monitor formats, and a lot of people *do* want passthrough for that kind of setup
@@EposVox i just want to stream 1080p 60fps
But what are you *playing* in? What’s the spec of your *gaming* monitor? That’s what matters most for capture card compatibility
First thought: will these 2.1 cards turn an iPad Pro into a 120Hz HDR Monitor? If it does/will, the incoming m3 iPad Pro would be worth their price increase
There’s no monitoring/capture support for HDR/120hz atm
seeing how Avermedia just dropped support for older products makes me not even consider them anymore anyway
Can you test the Aja Kona X capture card latency? Promisses sub frame latency (
Can you do a (Retrotink 5x + 4K Gamer Pro) vs Retrotink 4K?
Wish the Elgato 4K X supported more than 2ch PCM
Any news about an updated PCIe HDMI 2.1 Capture Card from Blackmagic Design?
Nope
I'd love to see a new video where we can find out which of the capture cards would work very well with the latest new VR gaming headsets, such as Meta Quest 2, PSVR 2, etc., so that we VR horror gamers/streamers can figure out which would work well. Thanks!
Other than that, I appreciate this video and have learned a lot about the differences (and some similarities) about this capture card vs. the others, and it definitely helped me know which capture cards I intend to buy very soon!
Unfortunately, I have no VR headsets
Whoa. None of the above. Your best and probably only option is with PCVR capturing the steam VR preview and picking one eye as the preview output, THEN full screen the preview on the capture card output. If not then OBS on the same PC to capture the window of that same preview.
The reasons are this: 1. The headset is display port out or USB-C out.
2. If the VR headset is HDMI. Using a passthrough doesn't give the software driving the VR headset the correct display identifier. AKA when you use the capture card as an output it identifies the display as the capture card 'AVT GC573' for the avermedia live gamer 4k.
Or 3. The headset is wireless. What do you expect. Lol
Source: my 2 PC setup, and various PCVR products and their temperamental setups.
@@taxa1569 ahh, I learned something new now. It's been a confusing journey getting it all set up eventually not just with a 2 PC setup, but also with consoles that does VR games, such as the PSVR and the PSVR2, so definitely been a LONG LEARNING PROCESS. Thanks for your insights - I appreciate it!
@@EposVox well, that's a bummer, but hey, might be worth exploring in the future eventually. Thanks again for this video though!
@@LKTheHorrorNerd definitely sorry to say it but good luck in your endeavours.
I WILL say though. I don't know how the PSVR works. If the console mirrors what a single eye or central rendering of what's being sent to the headset (shows on your tv what you're looking at in VR). You may be able to capture the console out? This would require testing but if that's the VR product you have, then you can only benefit by finding out if that does work! :)
Quick question outside of this video. If you have a 12th gen or above intel CPU with UHD 770 graphics, can you av1 encode off of those graphics? Say if you were to have like an AMD 6000 series or Nvidia 3000 series gpu that can't AV1. encode. I looked it up on Google to see if it's possible but I'm not sure. And no I don't mean CPU AV1 encoding because that's very inefficient.
iGPU AV1 encoding is expected on 14th Gen CPUs, but is not present on anything currently. Just decode
@@EposVox thanks for your answer
Looks great, but Yea, i could never drop $260 plus tax for this, ill stick with my evga xr1 pro for the foreseeable future
I like ur new look
Can you do a latency test for those capture cards when using passthrough for 4k high refresh rate?
Passthrough is real-time on all of them
@@EposVox i ask because i remember a guy testing the 2.0 capture cards and on 4k/60 they introduced input lag and latency while up to 2k they didn't. Maybe it was a mistake?
The 4k60 gaming cards from any reputable brand did not add any measurable/impactful input latency. Always sub 1ms
@@EposVox ok maybe then it was with monitor clone what i remembered. I now use monitor cloning on 2k 240hz and all i get is tearing on recordings or stream since the capture is done at 2k/144 with avermedia 573 card. Do u think if i change and go to 4k 240 monitor I will need the new capture cards?
@@EposVoxmine has a huge delay. Not using passthrough, just have my Fuji X-T4 camera plugged into it.
Anyone knows if the latency of the new Elgato 4K is closer to 4K60mkii (high) or the 4K x (low)?
The numbers are on the chart lol and in my review of those cards
@@EposVoxyea the algorithm decided to show me stuff in reverse order first 😅
I hate that i realized this but i think that i have always had this feeling that you look like the madame webb actress. or same vibes idk.
I’ll allow it
If it doesn’t support 4K60HDR, it doesn’t exist on any list.
I need 360 and 540 hz for 1080.........Elgato wake up
HDMI doesn’t support it
@@EposVox Well what does? We can't just come to a standstill. Wouldn't having a capture card at 240hz and a monitor at 540hz cause screen tearing? If I'm wrong, please correct me since that's how I think of it. (Mismatched frames)
DisplayPort. For which there are no modern capture cards.
You’re on the bleeding edge of display tech so you either have to sacrifice capture or accept workarounds
@@EposVox What exactly would these workarounds be? If a dual PC setup is not feasible due to this issue, then a single PC setup would be the alternative. However, I tend to avoid this option for a variety of reasons.
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