😂 DVD craze… games sell consoles this has been proven time and time again. There have been better consoles than the Switch or the PS2 but they’re the best selling consoles of all time for their libraries.
What's stopping Nintendo from saying the DS actually sold 161 million but they didn't update the number because they didn't care or something? Who is checking these numbers?
yep but Ponie's will try to tell you otherwise. It the same for the Wii sales, people only bought it coz of the gimmick it had, and altho the DVD player wasnt really a gimmick it is the reason why alot of people bought it considering DVD players by themselves were more expensive than a ps2 at the time.
Sony’s just bs’ing at this point, 5 million units more than the original number is insane like how do you happen to find out the console sold 5 million more units conveniently as a direct competitor comes close to surpassing the numbers
Is that cooping? 8 years ago nobody gave a cent or hope for Nintendo times change buddy, Sony is still strong and Nintendo too. That’s good for gamers.
@@agc2801 Not coping. I'm happy when there is good competition. Sony should be proud of those numbers but it just seems like they lost their way in recent years.
Nintendo is peaking now? Remember, they no longer have a handheld console now. They are far cry now from what they were selling before. Wii + DS = 256 million in sales. That was their peak. Compare that to just 146 million sales for Switch, and you see how much they've lost in sales.
@@crobinson2624 Yeah. Bro is trying to be funny, but forgetting it's impressive the Switch pushes so many units with a consistent price. Bet they'd change gears if the story had Sony at the helm.
ps2 classic wont count as ps2 sales, itll be its own thing like the NES/SNES classic and PS classic. unless it will have all its original hardware and be able to read ps2 discs but most likely itll just be an emulation box.
It actually says "OVER" 160m consoles sold. So whenever Switch hits 160m, they can just say "oh well PS2 actually sold 165m" or something. The pettiness is maximum cringe.
they better find more where those came from because switch wouldn't magically stop selling and have its production line stopped just because the switch 2 is released, even 3ds didn't stop selling even a few years after the switch
I see Nintendo stopping production because they've done it before. They stopped making GameCube when the Wii released, they stopped making Wii U when the Switch released. Maybe, MAYBE they made a few Wii Minis into the Wii U's life, but I don't see them continuing to manufacture 3 models of Switch when Switch 2 releases.
PS2 sales numbers are video game's best fish story. 154.7mil, no! 155mil, 158mil, 160mil!!!! Barely any of the sales records show the same number. Just say 300mil while making up sh*t...
@@Gravy1255The numbers are impressive. I bought a PS2. Like John said, it had everything people wanted in one unit. If it didn't have that DVD or Blu-ray player, you think it would have hit those numbers?
@@yoozernaimit was last updated at 155m end of fiscal year 2012, and was discontinued in January 2013 with those last 9 months never reported. You’re trying to tell me a 12 year old console sold 5 million in 9 months? The dang switch will struggle to sell 5 million NEXT YEAR IN ITS ENTIRETY.
@@minecrafter3448 I've stated my source. Where's yours? My source says about 159mil and they could be off by some, obviously. So 160mil+ isn't hard to believe especially when people who actually work at Sony are saying g it themselves. Am I supposed to think they're lying and instead believe some random guy in the comments of a yewtewb vid?
@@therealjaystone2344 Jim Ryan said it's over 160mil. He worked at Sony, I'll take his word over yours. Their page was just updated as well and it says over 160mil and Jim Ryan has been gone for awhile now. So disregard all of that but believe you Instead?
PS2 console sales may exceed Switch sales by 15 to 20 million, but a comparison of the best-selling PS2 games against the best-selling Switch games clearly demonstrates that Nintendo is making more money with the Switch overall.
The switch is still an underpowered piece of shit though!... It was outdated the moment it was released😂, thank god for the new handheld PC market that's going on right now this gen!
I mean in fairness every generation, both hand held and console, a inferior machine has won I'm fairly certain. Like PS2 was not stronger then Xbox unless I'm mixing up specs.
@@Packin-Heat.no it’s not, stop trying to push that narrative. The lite is a Switch without the hybrid option. You can separate the two for certain but it’s not like the difference between a PS5 and PS5 Pro. Same chipset, & game library.
Nintendo should stop releasing number figures after the Switch 2 comes out then a year later just say they actually sold 165,000 original Switches. When people ask for a source they just have to say, trust me bro. That's what Jim Ryan did.
@@pedrorosado3622 No he didn't. Lol. He worked at Sony clown, if anyone would know what the ps2 sold he would. Plus vgchartz has the ps2 almost around 160mil so it's not hard to believe. Are you salty that Playstation is King?
@@yoozernaim I know he worked at Sony, my point was not that, I'm not salty about anything. You are the one that's saying that Sony/PlayStation is king, so you are the one talking like a fanboy. I could care less who sells the most amount of software and hardware, I don't own stock in any company. You do know when you start calling people names and stuff it pretty much invalidates anything that you have said. Grow up man, no need to be disrespectful.
@@agc2801 how is that scummy? The Switch is still selling, why would you announce the successor now, especially right before the holidays. This would handicap its sales. Now, if the Switch was selling like the Wii U then they definitely would have released the Switch 2 by now, but since the Switch is still selling (and will continue to sell more thanks to the current bundles) Nintendo is in no rush to release the new system.
I just want the Switch 2 to be released and for the PS5 Pro to be discounted with an improved library. My day one Switch feels as old as my PS2 at this point, and the PS5 feels like an expensive PS4.
You know what would be an even bigger troll? If they rereleased the PS2 entirely just to inflate those numbers even more for those that want the nostalgia hit Edit: an even better idea would be a rerelease with HDMI out, better internet connectivity, getting rid of its region lock on games, and accuratly translate and uncensor Japanese exclusive games
@@MrTrebol4hojas asking too much? Bro, I'm asking them to do the bare minimum, that is to care about their own past and their consumer base............. On second thought, you are right. Like hell a company would want to please the fans and rake in money
Sony can tout the number all they want, but the PS2 was in production worldwide for 13 years. Switch has almost caught them in almost less than half the time.
Switch won't surpass the DS let alone PS2 so you Nintendo fanboys need to calm down. The fact that PS2 kept selling after PS3 came out is a positive not a negative. Switch wont sell once Switch 2 is announced.
It would be wild if Nintendo manufactured enough Switches to pass the ps2 by a few million, announce the Super Switch, then announce a price cut to the original Switch to $100 just to beat the sales record
$100 for the Lite, $150-$200 for the regular and/or OLED. Either way, it should help the standard Switch surpass the PS2 while the new Switch is on the market.
PS2 sold more for sure. Because most people used it as a DVD or were buying a second one because the first one broke. Take those numbers away, it sold less.
@@janedoe3043 Just like you can take away all the nintendo switches sold as a result of the p@ndemic and ppl being stuck inside? That's actually what caused the switch sales to spike incase you didn't know. Let me guess, that doesn't count or that's different somehow
@@yoozernaimlol some sad excuse when at that time the games are so good everyone buys what they like and its on Nintendo when you can buy anything but why ps5 which also release late in that year haven't sold like cup cake, oh wait scalpers 😂
@@SeddyAm No, genius, it was a huge price difference between switch and ps5. Most ppl buying during that time were most likely casuals and just went with the cheaper option.
That's no trolling that's fear. Switch is already the most profitable console in History. If the Switch pass it that's a lost in a Marketing that cannot be undone! Sony cannot afford it.
And the PS2 wasn't...? I kind of agree that games sell consoles. I don't like that the Switch doesn't do more. With the capabilities of an Nvidia Shield, the Switch could have appealed to more people. However, I understand that Nintendo is trying to protect their software sales. They just don't realize that people don't want to play Nintendo games 24/7. Hopefully, the Mario movie changes their perspective, or at least they do something interesting with the Switch 2.
Do you guys know what would be the most epic troll to Nintendo by Sony? A permanent price drop above $100 for the PS5 and more than three exclusives that make the console worth buying
Yes, please. We need better games made for this gen and a price drop on both ps5 and the pro that’s why the ps2 was so loved and the ps4 had a good run.
Well the the ps2 was made until 2013 with the country of Brazil having it as its most current console for about that long. The last game for the ps2 was made in 2015 so it does not surprise me that it sold so much
While I love the PS2 I hate that it’s the best selling game system. It’s a DVD player to most. The top selling PS2 game is GTA SA with 17.33 Mil while the top switch is MK8D with 64.27 Mil. Ones a gaming console and one is a media player.
The other is a gaming console that happens to also be a media player. In the world of home consoles, this was a revolutionary change, and the earliest form of making a game console double as a media center. And Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was bundled multiple times. That's like touting Horizon 2 sales when it too was bundled.
No your underselling it massively and there's no need to . The ps2 succeeded for the same reason the Switch is now, it had a variety of top notch games coming out on a consistent basis that constantly grabbed people's attention. The ACTUAL pathetic part is that sony is trying to pretend their still the same as they were back then. I'm a playstation fan but I have no problems calling out sony when they do stuff like this instead of trying to learn why things have changed so much for them and why Nintendo is now the one on top.
@@dapperfan44 Breath of the Wild can still put up a fight at 32.29m then, still nearly double San Andreas. If we can't count ports from predecessors, Tears of the Kingdom sold 21.04m. Oh, but if we can't count sequels to ports from predecessors, Super Mario Party sold 20.98m. Didn't want to use Odyssey as an example due to being unsure if it was ever bundled at any given point in time.
@@Cloud-dt6xb I’d love to know what the overall software sales of both consoles are. That would be an indication of its success as a gaming platform over a media device.
@@dapperfan44 the top 10 best selling games on switch all out sold GTA SA. If you don’t like MK8D because it’s always bundled, fair enough. But you’ve got 9 other titles that still out sold be the most successful PS2 title.
People outside of where I live in japan also dont realize that the ps2 and media remote bundle sold at Bic and Yodobashi up until about 2016 or so. Smaller tech stores also sold them even later than that from backstock.
i remember my first ps2; i broke it and it would only play ff10, after i got a new ps2 opened it up and the rail the eye traveled on snapped; i still have no idea how it could still play ff10.
Someday Nintendo the superior company will pass Sony the inferior company Nintendo is not a consumer-friendly company but they make Superior games for Superior games
Yeah they like to fudge numbers. No matter what it shows Sony is panicked and they can't "revise" the numbers more now. Sony will just make switch the bigger top dog.
In my heart the Nintendo Switch is the highest selling hardware of all time. The PS2 has been sold as a DVD player probably millions of times because it was cheaper than a real DVD player.
There has to be an audit of the sales because they did not report this on their financial statements back in the day. This is just ridiculous and childish.
Sony should give Nintendo a big warming thanks for giving Sony the incentive on making their own gaming console after Nintendo abruptly backed off from a deal they made in 1991. 😆
the thing is, the PS2 has been selling for DECADES now, whereas the Switch got pretty damn close in Less Than One decade...so sure, 160M is larger than 140M, but "20M per year" is more impressive than "8M per year"...
Sony taking advantage of PS2 being the #1 all time in sales before the inevitable happens and Switch hits 165m sales sometime in 2025. I foresee the Switch selling 170m+ by the time they take it off the market, and that always includes a year or more of steep 50-60% off discounts to move units. The Switch is the best console of all time by orders of magnitude. The PS2 had to be a DVD player at a time where DVD players were way overpriced just to get to 160m. The Switch did it organically because no console ever has come close to the level of innovation and versatility.
Lmao give it a break fanboy. The PS2 got 160 million because it had one of the largest and best libraries ever on top of being fully backwards compatible. The DVD player was just so parents would greenlit the purchase. Plus it's a home console which means there was only one per household unlike the Switch which is even more impressive but deserved.
I remember when everyone called the Switch a gimmick funny how tide’s change. But I’m all in on healthy competition PS2 still has some legs if Sony wants to invest on it, would prefer an amazing PS6 with awesome games tho. Funny fact the ps2 had the best library that ever existed, Switch has the best 1st party exclusives, games sell consoles no dvd’s or “innovation”.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that the PS2 sold 160M units. It would be such a milestone achievement for Sony to announce back in the day and for them to say nothing is very hard to believe. What about shareholder reports - nothing reported then? The best selling console ever moves the incredible 160M and nothing to be officially reported until many many years later due to the Switch in striking range? Yeah nah...
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Sony keeps finding PS2 sales numbers between the sofa cushions!
Boxes full of sales under the table and being delivered at 3am. 🙄
lol they actually updated it to 160 million in Wikipedia
Sony keeps updating the numbers because they know they never will be able to make another Console that is on par with the PS2
I totaly agree!
Sony wont be able to replicate the DVD craze. Thats why its a mirage to catch it.
They can't rely on The Last Of Us 2 ultra remake definitive edition for ever if they plan on getting close to 160 million lol
😂 DVD craze… games sell consoles this has been proven time and time again. There have been better consoles than the Switch or the PS2 but they’re the best selling consoles of all time for their libraries.
@@agc2801 DVD players were more expensive than the PS2
"Remember 20 years ago when we were cool?!"
My 21 year old makes me feel dated. I gotta break out my Avirex and timbs to remind her who tf I am.
@@Nobody-w8n4s AVIREX oh buddy lol
PS4 did extremely well and so is the PS5. Nintendo hasn't had a good selling system since the Wii...
@@Gravy1255The switch has sold more than the Wii, by like a lot.
They still are…but yeah not as cool as those days.
If Sony wants to keep that title, just release a PS2 with HDMI out. That’s all they’ll need to do to put it out of reach.
HDMI out, better internet connectivity, get rid of the region lock on games, and translate/uncensored games that were Japanese exclusives
Approved…and $100. No overpriced or closed system nonsense and a proper store with fair prices nostalgia alone would put it in 200mill numbers
Call it the PS2.5
PS2 PRO 😈
@@agc2801 nah they will release it for 600 dollars
What's stopping Nintendo from saying the DS actually sold 161 million but they didn't update the number because they didn't care or something? Who is checking these numbers?
No worries, we all know they are posting fake numbers. They had years to declare it but never did, so it just shows how petty they are.
Source: Trust me bro
Nintendo doesn't care. It's just Sony is pathetic, and Nintendo just laughing at them 😁
Half of those PS2 sales can probably be attributed to that included DVD player.
Sure, tons of sales were attributed to that. The PS2 still has what many think is the best library of all consoles to this day
yep but Ponie's will try to tell you otherwise. It the same for the Wii sales, people only bought it coz of the gimmick it had, and altho the DVD player wasnt really a gimmick it is the reason why alot of people bought it considering DVD players by themselves were more expensive than a ps2 at the time.
That was a genius business strategy tbh
Something nintendo doesn't even have anymore and what makes it even more hilarious is that they don't have hardly any streaming services at all.
@@frankharper3512Nintendo is pathetic. When I buy a video game console, the last thing I want it to do is play video games.
Sony’s just bs’ing at this point, 5 million units more than the original number is insane like how do you happen to find out the console sold 5 million more units conveniently as a direct competitor comes close to surpassing the numbers
What "original" number are you referring to exactly? Vgchartz had the ps2 around 160mil and they're probably off by a little.
these are the official numbers sold, go cry about it somewhere else
I think Jim is rounding up to 10. 158,7m is close to 160.
Probably didn’t care enough to update it before
“Hey Nintendo, you may be peaking now but remember when I PEAKED 20 years ago”-Sony
And they haven't peaked since.
Is that cooping? 8 years ago nobody gave a cent or hope for Nintendo times change buddy, Sony is still strong and Nintendo too. That’s good for gamers.
Mario: Weird flex, but okay
@@agc2801 Not coping. I'm happy when there is good competition. Sony should be proud of those numbers but it just seems like they lost their way in recent years.
Nintendo is peaking now? Remember, they no longer have a handheld console now.
They are far cry now from what they were selling before.
Wii + DS = 256 million in sales. That was their peak.
Compare that to just 146 million sales for Switch, and you see how much they've lost in sales.
146 millions Switches sold. No Price Cuts. 😅
says alot about the fanbase
@ and the quality of the product.
@@crobinson2624 Yeah. Bro is trying to be funny, but forgetting it's impressive the Switch pushes so many units with a consistent price. Bet they'd change gears if the story had Sony at the helm.
@@geezus7833700$ PS5 Pro what does that say about PS fanboys?
Just a reminder. Nintendo has now gotten within the PS2 sales numbers TWICE.
Nope
Without a DVD player. Solely as a games machine.
just a reminder. ps2-ps5 have been leading the console market since 2000
Handhelds don’t count lil bro 😂
@@RobertHarris--- I especially loved how they came in 1st on the 7th gen... oh wait.
At least they're ahead on this gen... Oh, wait.
Nintendo needs to make this race too big to rig.
They are because the switch 2 will continue the switch sales.
@@mr_m4613 WOOO! Second term!
lol Sony trucking in dropping them surprise 4am numbers
@@leviwarren6222 exactly
They'll just sell a wii game again and win. Oh look, more Nintendo Music RUclips already has. They win again
Guarantee Sonys holding a PS2 Classic in the vault just waiting for the Switch to surpass that 160 million number
That's what I'm hoping for. Re-release it with better internet connectivity and bring back physically ps2 game runs to boost sales
ps2 classic wont count as ps2 sales, itll be its own thing like the NES/SNES classic and PS classic. unless it will have all its original hardware and be able to read ps2 discs but most likely itll just be an emulation box.
Switch isn’t passing PS2 so you don’t have to worry your little heart.
@crimsonemperor2219 it's called retroarch or pcsx2 😂
@@jaimegarcia767i already us pcsx2 and still own and use my old PS2. I still want them to bring back the PS2 regardless
It actually says "OVER" 160m consoles sold. So whenever Switch hits 160m, they can just say "oh well PS2 actually sold 165m" or something.
The pettiness is maximum cringe.
I get it the switch should’ve released the 2-3 years ago, the record chasing itself is cringe and bothersome on both ends.
Like this comment 😂
The Switch Lite handheld doesn't count lol. Nintendo is cheating.
@@thierrys85 The actual number is 160,636,885
@@thierrys85 The real pettiness is trying to include the switch lite though.
they better find more where those came from because switch wouldn't magically stop selling and have its production line stopped just because the switch 2 is released, even 3ds didn't stop selling even a few years after the switch
Nintendo said they have a 10 year life for the switch. We are at 8 years, so they still have 2 years to keep it up.
@inamorta47-playertwist well they defintely have at least one past the switch 2 because they can mass price cut.
The Switch could maybe catch the PS2, but I think they’ll have to cut prices for it a good amount.
We'll just deduct the Switch Lite because it's only a handheld anyway so it doesn't count. 👍
I see Nintendo stopping production because they've done it before. They stopped making GameCube when the Wii released, they stopped making Wii U when the Switch released. Maybe, MAYBE they made a few Wii Minis into the Wii U's life, but I don't see them continuing to manufacture 3 models of Switch when Switch 2 releases.
Sony should STFU when it comes to gaming these days. Concord was the biggest disaster in history and that was all Sony
PS2 sales numbers are video game's best fish story. 154.7mil, no! 155mil, 158mil, 160mil!!!! Barely any of the sales records show the same number. Just say 300mil while making up sh*t...
those sales numbers arent given out by sony themselves, but are rough estimations done by media outlets
Sony are so petty is actually funny 🤣
At this point Sony has so little to hold on to that it would be just pitiful if they lost that PS2 sales record.
PS4 selling 115 million isn't impressive? GameCube, N64, WiiU all flopped. Sony's only "flop" is ps3 and it still sold alot
@@Gravy1255The numbers are impressive. I bought a PS2. Like John said, it had everything people wanted in one unit. If it didn't have that DVD or Blu-ray player, you think it would have hit those numbers?
@@Gravy1255ds, 3ds, switch, Wii gameboy sold more than most Sony consoles
@@pedrogoncalves4585The only PS console the 3DS outsold was the Vita what are you talking about
🤦🏻♂️ I’m not happy with Sony this past months either, and the pro was a stab in the back but, no Sony is thriving.
I call BS, theres no way you could sell 5 million ps2s 12 years AFTER discontinuation.
@@mr_m4613 Where do you get 5 million from? Vgchartz had it at about 159mil. So 160mil+ Isn't hard to believe. Why so salty?
@@yoozernaim158,7m
@@yoozernaimit was last updated at 155m end of fiscal year 2012, and was discontinued in January 2013 with those last 9 months never reported. You’re trying to tell me a 12 year old console sold 5 million in 9 months? The dang switch will struggle to sell 5 million NEXT YEAR IN ITS ENTIRETY.
@@minecrafter3448 I've stated my source. Where's yours?
My source says about 159mil and they could be off by some, obviously. So 160mil+ isn't hard to believe especially when people who actually work at Sony are saying g it themselves. Am I supposed to think they're lying and instead believe some random guy in the comments of a yewtewb vid?
@@therealjaystone2344 Jim Ryan said it's over 160mil. He worked at Sony, I'll take his word over yours. Their page was just updated as well and it says over 160mil and Jim Ryan has been gone for awhile now. So disregard all of that but believe you Instead?
Sony's full of crap.
Cope harder
I am so unbelievably tired of Sony's attitude and pretentiousness this generation.
so glad how pro consumer and friendly nintendo has been. can't get tired of that
Nintendo is hot garbage. Their online experience socks compared to what Xbox and Playstation offers.
The Switch is nothing but rereleases and bad ports. They're just as much arrogant for relying on their own brand
Socks?
Yoozer comparing a 100 dollar service to a 20 dollar service is so misinformed and cringe
It’s a good service for the price it offers
It's been 155m for over a decade but noe changed...seems fishy.
yeah, i remember seeing it as only a sliver ahead of the DS (154m) for years, now its suddenly at 160m?
OVER 160. This means they will update this number higher as the switch gets closer
Good. They should, I want to see the actual number
@@yoozernaim At this point, I would not be surprised if Sony started making more PS2 just to stay #1
Nintendo congratulations, we just sold 160 million switches :D
Sony: Um actually we sold 160 million +1 PS2s 🤓
@@RetroCheatsI hope they do. I would buy a few every month and sell cheaper just for fun
PS2 console sales may exceed Switch sales by 15 to 20 million, but a comparison of the best-selling PS2 games against the best-selling Switch games clearly demonstrates that Nintendo is making more money with the Switch overall.
The ps2 actually sold more games than the switch, but they were all third party. So yes Sony was making much less money, but they were more popular
Hey Sony, remember when Nintendo trampled your handhelds constantly with an "inferior" machine?
The switch is still an underpowered piece of shit though!... It was outdated the moment it was released😂, thank god for the new handheld PC market that's going on right now this gen!
@@Kennosuke88Selling to the 1% of the pc marketplace 🤣
I mean in fairness every generation, both hand held and console, a inferior machine has won I'm fairly certain. Like PS2 was not stronger then Xbox unless I'm mixing up specs.
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Yes, everything before that was waffle.
Thank you sir
I dont think anyone other than sony die hards take PS2 sales seriously. The dvd player did the heavy lifting those things were crazy expwnsive.
You say that, but remember when the PS3 was the cheapest blu ray player?
moving the goal post is so petty
☠
😂
Not as petty as trying to include the Switch Lite.
@@Packin-Heat.no it’s not, stop trying to push that narrative. The lite is a Switch without the hybrid option.
You can separate the two for certain but it’s not like the difference between a PS5 and PS5 Pro. Same chipset, & game library.
@@lordrikudouzero9119 Plus, nobody complained when the Game Boy did this.
Nintendo should stop releasing number figures after the Switch 2 comes out then a year later just say they actually sold 165,000 original Switches. When people ask for a source they just have to say, trust me bro. That's what Jim Ryan did.
@@pedrorosado3622 No he didn't. Lol. He worked at Sony clown, if anyone would know what the ps2 sold he would. Plus vgchartz has the ps2 almost around 160mil so it's not hard to believe. Are you salty that Playstation is King?
@yoozernaim lol damn you commented on a ton of people's stuff here what a ps fan boy kek
Nintendo waiting months to release the Switch 2 just to protect Switch sales is pretty scummy as well.
@@yoozernaim I know he worked at Sony, my point was not that, I'm not salty about anything. You are the one that's saying that Sony/PlayStation is king, so you are the one talking like a fanboy. I could care less who sells the most amount of software and hardware, I don't own stock in any company.
You do know when you start calling people names and stuff it pretty much invalidates anything that you have said. Grow up man, no need to be disrespectful.
@@agc2801 how is that scummy? The Switch is still selling, why would you announce the successor now, especially right before the holidays. This would handicap its sales.
Now, if the Switch was selling like the Wii U then they definitely would have released the Switch 2 by now, but since the Switch is still selling (and will continue to sell more thanks to the current bundles) Nintendo is in no rush to release the new system.
I’m sure Nintendo will blow past 160 million much sooner than Sony so it’s safe to say they trolled themselves.
They just updated their numbers, chill 😂
Its Sony's 30th Anniversary. This has nothing to do with Nintendoo
@@jefp65 his video title literally references Nintendo lol.
I think they are lying.
Is it petty? Sure. Does it suprise me? Absolutely not.
I'm not even sure its going to work.
I just want the Switch 2 to be released and for the PS5 Pro to be discounted with an improved library. My day one Switch feels as old as my PS2 at this point, and the PS5 feels like an expensive PS4.
You know what would be an even bigger troll? If they rereleased the PS2 entirely just to inflate those numbers even more for those that want the nostalgia hit
Edit: an even better idea would be a rerelease with HDMI out, better internet connectivity, getting rid of its region lock on games, and accuratly translate and uncensor Japanese exclusive games
@@crimsonemperor2219 I think this would be embraced by the retro community if they did something like Anologue and released something high quality
Seeing the ps1 classic and how they treat ps1/ps2 games on ps5 i thini u asking them too much 😅😅
I would buy a ps2 classic immediately just don’t do the same thing as the lame ps1 classic.
@@MrTrebol4hojas asking too much? Bro, I'm asking them to do the bare minimum, that is to care about their own past and their consumer base.............
On second thought, you are right. Like hell a company would want to please the fans and rake in money
I'd buy another release of the ps2 in a heartbeat
I call BS. Unless independent sales tracking can back it up, I won't accept an executive's random quote as fact.
Sony can tout the number all they want, but the PS2 was in production worldwide for 13 years.
Switch has almost caught them in almost less than half the time.
there are way more gamers in the mainstream now than there were before. apples to oranges
@@thelarry383Yup plus c19 and people being stuck at home gave the switch a MASSIVE boost I sales, something the ps2 did not benefit from.
@@thelarry383back then DVDs were taking off and PS2 was one of the cheapest dvd players. So I think that cancels out the COVID spike switch had
Switch won't surpass the DS let alone PS2 so you Nintendo fanboys need to calm down. The fact that PS2 kept selling after PS3 came out is a positive not a negative. Switch wont sell once Switch 2 is announced.
@@jefp65 history says otherwise.
Funny to see a 30+ year old company throwing shade at a company that's been around since the 1800's
Sony is over 70 years old
The OG PS2 was so good looking
Agree….I wanted that console so bad. Never got one, then bought a OG xbox amazing aswell.
yep same for the original ps1 very nice to look at, eye candy will you
Sony is petty.😂😂😂
I'm still mad about the Pro price. Those old enough probably remember the $299 two-second speech at E3 fondly.
The most most successful DVD player
It would be wild if Nintendo manufactured enough Switches to pass the ps2 by a few million, announce the Super Switch, then announce a price cut to the original Switch to $100 just to beat the sales record
$100 for the Lite, $150-$200 for the regular and/or OLED.
Either way, it should help the standard Switch surpass the PS2 while the new Switch is on the market.
I think that will happen. Nintendo easily has at least 1 year after switch 2 because of a massive price drop.
Nintendo is not petty like Sony 🤭
When Switch Lites are $99 next year, that PS2 record is toast.
Sony is definitely cooking the books with this statement.
Only people capable of trolling Nintendo is Nintendo
@@NoxxyTK Corporations aren't people, Adolf.
Sega CEO said today that Dreamcast sold 170 million more consoles that were not reported.
Even more breaking news, Atari just announced the Lynx actually sold 200 million! Unbelievable!
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No it sold 350 million. IGN just confirmed it today.
Probably from thrift stores lol
To themselves 😂
PS2 sold more for sure. Because most people used it as a DVD or were buying a second one because the first one broke. Take those numbers away, it sold less.
@@janedoe3043 Just like you can take away all the nintendo switches sold as a result of the p@ndemic and ppl being stuck inside? That's actually what caused the switch sales to spike incase you didn't know. Let me guess, that doesn't count or that's different somehow
Don't forget all the people who bought a second one when the slim came out.
@@yoozernaimlol some sad excuse when at that time the games are so good everyone buys what they like and its on Nintendo when you can buy anything but why ps5 which also release late in that year haven't sold like cup cake, oh wait scalpers 😂
@@MrJturner74 And what about ppl who double, triple and quadruple dipped with the switch lite and Oled?
@@SeddyAm No, genius, it was a huge price difference between switch and ps5. Most ppl buying during that time were most likely casuals and just went with the cheaper option.
They intentionally created this website as a coverup to mysteriously update the PS2 sales numbers.
Nintendo should show how much software they sold . Mic dropped 🫳 🎤
Nintendo: The kings of re-releases
They already did at the past financial investors meeting 3 weeks ago.
@@oramirez7725 I bet they’re going to put out a 4k remaster of tears of the kingdom when switch 2 comes out at $80
@randocalrissian9217 i would probably buy it too for the collection lol
@@randocalrissian9217 *cough* The Last of US *cough*
That's no trolling that's fear. Switch is already the most profitable console in History. If the Switch pass it that's a lost in a Marketing that cannot be undone! Sony cannot afford it.
I mean the switch is a fully dedicated gaming device definitely way more than the ps2
It wins in my book if it beats the DS
And the PS2 wasn't...? I kind of agree that games sell consoles. I don't like that the Switch doesn't do more. With the capabilities of an Nvidia Shield, the Switch could have appealed to more people. However, I understand that Nintendo is trying to protect their software sales. They just don't realize that people don't want to play Nintendo games 24/7. Hopefully, the Mario movie changes their perspective, or at least they do something interesting with the Switch 2.
someone gave sony the mushrooms cuz they are trippin of they think they can troll the king.
Do you guys know what would be the most epic troll to Nintendo by Sony? A permanent price drop above $100 for the PS5 and more than three exclusives that make the console worth buying
They won't because concord wasted their money so much they're desperate to get the money back bey making every money they have up
Yes, please. We need better games made for this gen and a price drop on both ps5 and the pro that’s why the ps2 was so loved and the ps4 had a good run.
We totally found a bunch of new customers. They're super hot too. You can't see them though, because they go to a different economy.
I recall allot of disc read error ps2s. So how many repeat sales were there?
What’s next ????
Sony will say that Concord actually sold 25 million copies, instead of 25 thousand the last day it was shut down ????
Smelling too much paint? 😅
Quit coke bro
Sony should redeem themselves for the terrible PlayStation Classic and release a PS2 Classic. Anyone think they might do something like that?
Sony still thinks they’re hot shit but with all these Stupid decisions they’re making that reality check is going to be so sweet.
Exactly, only hotshitvSony have is that overpriced PS5 Pro 😆
PS1 and PS2 was the golden age for Sony and consoles.
They will never hit those numbers ever again.
Well the the ps2 was made until 2013 with the country of Brazil having it as its most current console for about that long. The last game for the ps2 was made in 2015 so it does not surprise me that it sold so much
Now Nintendo needs to catch up big time! Come on switch beat it!
Maybe they should focus on making games instead of boasting
I got a Sega Saturn instead of a Sony PlayStation.
Sorry that happened to you.
Buy I hope you still got it, that would be pretty cool.
Smh
@@EPS5000 Game Sack is my favorite RUclips channel, Joe! Keep up the good work!
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@@alejofox10 The Saturn had some of the best fighting games, plus Nights Into Dreams.
While I love the PS2 I hate that it’s the best selling game system. It’s a DVD player to most. The top selling PS2 game is GTA SA with 17.33 Mil while the top switch is MK8D with 64.27 Mil. Ones a gaming console and one is a media player.
The other is a gaming console that happens to also be a media player. In the world of home consoles, this was a revolutionary change, and the earliest form of making a game console double as a media center.
And Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was bundled multiple times. That's like touting Horizon 2 sales when it too was bundled.
No your underselling it massively and there's no need to . The ps2 succeeded for the same reason the Switch is now, it had a variety of top notch games coming out on a consistent basis that constantly grabbed people's attention. The ACTUAL pathetic part is that sony is trying to pretend their still the same as they were back then. I'm a playstation fan but I have no problems calling out sony when they do stuff like this instead of trying to learn why things have changed so much for them and why Nintendo is now the one on top.
@@dapperfan44 Breath of the Wild can still put up a fight at 32.29m then, still nearly double San Andreas.
If we can't count ports from predecessors, Tears of the Kingdom sold 21.04m. Oh, but if we can't count sequels to ports from predecessors, Super Mario Party sold 20.98m.
Didn't want to use Odyssey as an example due to being unsure if it was ever bundled at any given point in time.
@@Cloud-dt6xb I’d love to know what the overall software sales of both consoles are. That would be an indication of its success as a gaming platform over a media device.
@@dapperfan44 the top 10 best selling games on switch all out sold GTA SA. If you don’t like MK8D because it’s always bundled, fair enough. But you’ve got 9 other titles that still out sold be the most successful PS2 title.
I really don't care how many systems Sony sells. It's not going to make me like them, Or want to get another Sony product ever.
PSA:he PS4 sould 200 milliin more games than the PS2, and the Switch's game sslesbsurpassed the DS when the Switch reached 10 million.
People outside of where I live in japan also dont realize that the ps2 and media remote bundle sold at Bic and Yodobashi up until about 2016 or so. Smaller tech stores also sold them even later than that from backstock.
Have fun there with Sky Surfer 😂
Honestly, Nintendo deserves whatever comes to them.
Winner stays on.
Trying to sell UMD movies at full price DVD prices was wild. I have several now only because they're $1 at most used places around me
so they will just keep rise number? Sony scaming nombers (once they was behind DS and 'count again' ps2 and go ahead)
Now brag about them PS5 sales and game library xD
The wiiu is at 20 million 😅
Don't they know, the Nintendo DS just sold 10 million last night...
Actually had no idea capcom was still doing stuff with snow bros, cool to know
Everyone knows that the 2 in PS2 stands for *2nd* place.
i remember my first ps2; i broke it and it would only play ff10, after i got a new ps2 opened it up and the rail the eye traveled on snapped; i still have no idea how it could still play ff10.
The PS2 was definitely my favorite Playstation. Great memories with that one.
Someday Nintendo the superior company will pass Sony the inferior company Nintendo is not a consumer-friendly company but they make Superior games for Superior games
I have The Up In Smoke Tour, Kung Fu Hustle, Appleseed, and Final Fantasy VII Advent Children on UMD.
I think it was both.
Sony has history with doing this in the past.
Yeah they like to fudge numbers. No matter what it shows Sony is panicked and they can't "revise" the numbers more now.
Sony will just make switch the bigger top dog.
The Pyo vs Player esscence on Twitter gotta be the funniest part of this story.
Do you think that Nintendo is going to count Switch 2 sales as part of the Switch family like they did for the Gameboy
Sony should rerelease the ps2 if necessary to keep the record.
Insta-fail
In my heart the Nintendo Switch is the highest selling hardware of all time.
The PS2 has been sold as a DVD player probably millions of times because it was cheaper than a real DVD player.
So the THOUSANDS of games had nothing to do with it. Ok pal
That was a big selling point for me back in the day
In your heart ? My god you fanboys ( for any system ) are ridiculous. Who cares
The PS2 library is better than the Switch's though.
@JONATHANP1619 The Switch game library is a joke compared to even the PS4. It's nowhere near the PS2 library of games.
Noticed how it says "Since 2000" because a PS2 was sold not long ago LOL
There has to be an audit of the sales because they did not report this on their financial statements back in the day. This is just ridiculous and childish.
My favorite trilogy fatal frame, fatal frame crimson butterfly, and fatal frame tormented are forever stuck on PS2
Not really. Only the third game is locked on the PS2. The first and second game received ports for the classic XBox, enhanced ports at that.
@krazycharlie oh yeah
My uncle still has the forgotten large official PlayStation controller twice the size for larger hands.
- Partners with the company Nintendo is suing
- Attempting to Acquire the developers of Nintendo's latest game
- Now this
What game?
PS2 sold 10's of millions of units just because it was one of the best and cheapest DVD players you could get at the time.
Great video! Your commentary provided great context to the numbers. I’ve been watching more and more of your content and been really enjoying it.
Sony should give Nintendo a big warming thanks for giving Sony the incentive on making their own gaming console after Nintendo abruptly backed off from a deal they made in 1991. 😆
One thing Nintendo have that Sony will never achieve is that Nintendo can make successful consoles with or without third party support.
the thing is, the PS2 has been selling for DECADES now, whereas the Switch got pretty damn close in Less Than One decade...so sure, 160M is larger than 140M, but "20M per year" is more impressive than "8M per year"...
They are SO lucky that thing played dvds
What if Nintendo tomorrow says, the Nintendo DS actually sold 170 million units as of October 2024 ???
A PS2 Slim "remastered" would be great! Update the I/O, get rid of region lock, local storage, and a few other things I'm sure I'm missing.
Mega man legends, ape escape, grand stream saga, metal gear solid, ff8, ratchet and clank, sly cooped, and few others that I rather enjoyed.
Sony taking advantage of PS2 being the #1 all time in sales before the inevitable happens and Switch hits 165m sales sometime in 2025. I foresee the Switch selling 170m+ by the time they take it off the market, and that always includes a year or more of steep 50-60% off discounts to move units. The Switch is the best console of all time by orders of magnitude. The PS2 had to be a DVD player at a time where DVD players were way overpriced just to get to 160m. The Switch did it organically because no console ever has come close to the level of innovation and versatility.
Lmao give it a break fanboy.
The PS2 got 160 million because it had one of the largest and best libraries ever on top of being fully backwards compatible. The DVD player was just so parents would greenlit the purchase. Plus it's a home console which means there was only one per household unlike the Switch which is even more impressive but deserved.
I remember when everyone called the Switch a gimmick funny how tide’s change. But I’m all in on healthy competition PS2 still has some legs if Sony wants to invest on it, would prefer an amazing PS6 with awesome games tho. Funny fact the ps2 had the best library that ever existed, Switch has the best 1st party exclusives, games sell consoles no dvd’s or “innovation”.
@@agc2801 Though that sucks at the same time due to it having the most difficult emulator.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that the PS2 sold 160M units. It would be such a milestone achievement for Sony to announce back in the day and for them to say nothing is very hard to believe. What about shareholder reports - nothing reported then? The best selling console ever moves the incredible 160M and nothing to be officially reported until many many years later due to the Switch in striking range? Yeah nah...
Interesting that the PlayStation vita didn’t include sales figures.
No Jon. These are businesses. They aren't like Twitter console fanboys who are hurt by sales numbers.
You don’t know that.
Companies can get petty. Nintendo taught you that RGT.
Just leaving a comment here, RGT seems like a lightning rod for toxic interactions and I cant miss out on that action lol
You think there are zero console fanboys working at Sony??? There must be a few at least!
Jokes on you my uncle John Nintendo told me that they are very hurt by this update and will delay the next system by 5 years