I think you are wasting a lot of steam due to overpressure by forcing the liquid to wait to cool down before allowing it into the geyser room. Cooling the liquid by same amount of degrees takes less time when the liquid is hotter. A continuous loop should be more efficient. Also I find it a bit wasteful to use AETN just to condense steam. I condense steam geyser with toilet water regulated to 100g/s flow and dumping the hot polluted water into a sieve. Polluted water evaporates at 120° so the steam geyser will never break the pipes. And I just came up with an idea that you can get a tiny bit more efficiency if you run the cold hydrogen from the pump thru the hot hydrogen again before you destroy it in the AETN.
I agree, not sure why he refers this start-stop method in the cooling fluid. It should run continuous so it can reach steady state. The main reason is because if energy transfer is anything like real life, then the rate of exchange is based on the temperature difference between the enviroment and the liquid in the pipe, so by making it stop to wait for a certain temperature, the Delta T is smaller so it takes progressively longer and longer (same applies for the hot side).
The thing is, he was worried he'd overload the wheezeworts and nullifier if he continuously ran the loop. He said as much when he spoke of the benefits of putting just enough petrol into the pipes.
I've actually found that building a room next to a geyser, with a door system like that of the one you have with the hydrogen generator. Works really well. This second room is mostly a vacuum that you have lots of pre-cooled pipes in and once those pips are super cold (-1 or lower) you open the doors, the steam rushes in, heats up the pipes.. the doors close.. the steam condenses and the the room is once again in a vacuum but with lots of water at the bottom. This stops the steam from warming the water up, and if you want you can also cool the water down too and keep it cool.
In my experience a wheezewort (2 actually) can handle the output of a natural gas geyser and prevent the pump from overheating. Try wheezeworts in series next to a hydrogen vent. That could remove the need to make a cooling system.
Brothgar, I watch a lot of your videos because you are simply the best (bar none) at helping me learn ONI. I've finally been able to build my first colony that can last infinitely thanks to all your help. I do however have a real problem getting the "natural" hang of automation logic (when and how to integrate a combination of gates). I know tutorials aren't really your highest interest, but would you be able to do a showcase of what helps you understand how to build with them so players like myself can become independent with automation and perhaps one day can create something unique for the community? Maybe you can even make an experiment or challenge out of pushing the limits of automation logic, two birds one stone! Really appreciate all that you are doing, keep it up!
Brothgar, I've used the thermal shift plates in conjunction with the radiant pipes, which helps the transfer of thermal energies. I use them to direct cool many things and since they work as background tiles. If you ran a radiant pipe with thermal tiles behind the pipes it will speed up the thermal transfer, both to gain energy or to dissipate it.
I have 2 cool steam near each other. They were heat saturating the area around them. I was able to calm it down by using a passive oil loop that transferred heat between those geysers and a pool of oil that I cooled with an aquatuner(that is in polluted water). I used pretty much the same design on a polluted vent that 6 wheezeworts couldn't handle as well as a prototype reservoir for glass and metal refinery. Having an aquatuner in polluted water then pumping that hot polluted water out has been real nice. I could boil it but there is an infinite amount of regolith I may as well use.
To cool the hydrogen you could also tricke some polluted water over a metal tile over the hydrogen chamber, transforming it into steam. With a thermo sensor in this room keeping it below 125°C you could also pump this steam back into the other system easily
brothgar you can make your radiators more effiiecient by doing one simple thing: remove the liquid(gas) shut off valves, and let the coolant circulate constantly. not only will you save energy because you dont need to power the temp. senmsopr and the shut off valve but you will mkae the heat exchange faster. The formula mcat the t is a delta T. This means that to get the most out of a radiator system you want to keep the Delta T as afar apart as possible. by stopping the coolant and letting it rest to come up or down to temp you are decreasing the differences in delta T. by keeping the system constantly circulating you maximize the delta T of the system
Instead of using your door setup, put the pump directly at the hydrogen vent and cool the pump. The amount of Hydrogen coming out of the vent is pretty low. Which means that there is not much mass of hydrogen to transfer the heat, when you keep the pressure in the hydrogen chamber low. I testet it with an hydrogen cooling loop, cooled by a Nullifier. I kept the pump easily around 20 degrees with this. Also, my take on nullifiers is, that i never try to cool down fluids. Its way easier to cool down gases and use them. For example I basicly never cool down water. In the mid-late game my primary use for water is to make oxygen. And its way easier to cool down the Oxygen, insteat of water.
that cool slush geyser you found could cool the entire system way faster then that thermo nullifier could. Polluted water shouldnt turn to steam when cooling a cool steam vent then you just delete the heat into a liquid Sieve.
i think you should, put the hydrogen setup above the vent, that way the gas can flow better and so the cold temp can flow down wards and help pre cool the hydrogen.
A long time ago you made a cooling loop that is what i still use today. It was a closed off system with Petroleum in the middle with a pump everything surrounded by plastic. Outside of that it was hight pressure hydrogen with Wheezewort to cool the hydrogen and the petroleum at the same time. The only thing i added was that before the petrol left the enclosure i used radiant pipes to go around the hydrogen. I am using the same seed as you, and this system seems to work better and less troublesome.
Something that gives you a lot of cooling capacity is polluted water from bathrooms. I mean a lot more than a nullifier. Just drag it across your cool steam vent before sieving it. It can easily handle both steam vents and more. A nullifier is strong, but I find it's better used for things that should be cooled as much as it can, like NG generators. -173 is hard to get without the nullifiers, so I would feel it's wasted on cooling hydroogen and steam. Things for which 40 degrees is enough should be cooled by sieves and carbon scrubbers first, and really hot things like the hydrogen can even be cooled by petroleum from refineries (70°) or crude oil.
Hey Brothgar, dont know the answer at all, cause i dont know if the gas geysers can overpressure more than 5kg, but in my actual game, i've dropped a bit of polluted water, by mistake, obviously, over one of my natural gas geysers and it doesn't overpressures ever. i've reached up to 28Kg in a 100tiles room. could be a glitch...
With a wezzwort over a normal vent you can fill a space with unlimited pressure. I’ve had rooms with 80kg of gas per tile. It has to be just one gas tho. Once you mix gasses it gets messed up
I believe you found an exploit in this video... The normal gas vent can only pressurize until 2kg per tile. But since you put them beside an airflow tile with Wheeze Worts on top of them, the pressure keeps getting lower, so the gas vent doesn't over pressurize. Interesting!
Disabling the steam cooler, when you're out of hydrogen might be useful. Getting more hydrogen should be a first priority, then use that to cool the steam when you have excess. Then maybe use the water to create hydrogen and oxygen, to cool it down even more?
I've done a similar setup in 1 of my bases. Though i did not bother trying to cool down the Hydrogen down at all. I just pumped it straight into the room i made for the nullifier with a high pressure gas vent. Once it gets down to temperature the room it stays there. Then i just let a very small amount of liquid run through the loop continuously. Trying to cool the gas down before pumping it into the room doesn't help that much. It only speeds up the intial cool down. If anything i would put the wheeze warts in the geyser room. not the nullifer room.
vacuum seal the steam vent and pump out the water until it stays at 110. pump the steam past the AETN in packets of less then 100 g/s pour them out at less then steam temp in another room with pump for the water. at less then 10% volume the contents will not change state.
Hello Brothgar, I have a question concerning metal refineries. What is the best material for them. I made them out of abysselite, becaue +200 °C overtemperature. Problem is they get warmer after use but refuse to cool down because of the zero conductivity. Another question: Can you use (hot) steam vents to power steam generators? are they hot enough? It says, it would produce steam at 500 °C but for me it seems like more 160 °C - 200°C. Maybe I have just to wait a little bit more till the whole system is heated up enough...
Tried something like this in a real map and the distance messes with the fluid in Abyssalite pipes unless they fixed it, even insulated ones seem to let heat touch the fluid in them moving from one chamber far way.
Why not using the hot hydrogen to heat up water for steampower? The hyrogen becomes cooler and the steam laters returns to beeing liquit by the nullifier.
I just got a cool Idea in the next update the developers could add a paint system so you can colour code your pipes, wires and other transport mediums so when you open an overlay like gas pipes you can se what system is what because it is cooler coded. eg( hydrogen generator system red and hydrogen cooler blue)
I am wondering, the gas reservoir you can clean germs if it is exposed to chlorine. Can you use this to cool a larger charge of gas? what would happen if you have steam in one and it is cooled? just curious :)
Hey Brothgar, my problem is almost everytime the dormancy of all those geysers for like 30-70ish cycles. E.G. my Powerplant with Natural Gas Generators using the gas of a natural gas geyser... I need a high amount of power in my base, just too much that i could just save it in batteries for the x cycles dormancy of the geyser. Then in this time i run out of power and everything collapse... Same with water or oxygen etc. Worst case scenario is when two geysers i tapped, have a dormancy at the same time.... xD Anyone have solutions?
23:47 Your power usage is about 1000 while your Hydrogen is only outputting 800. I do think you want your doors to be powered. Heat is a dangerous thing. But in all, not everything is going to run at the same time but there will be times when they do.
I love the video, but I question the effectiveness of this set up. It seemed to get a little hung up with the cooling, so I've pasted an old comment of mine that would make use of some of the game mechanics available since the Cosmic Upgrade. Because I haven't gotten around to actually purchasing and playing Oxygen Not Included, I can only brainstorm on how this system would work which means I don't actually know if this system is any more or less effective than your Anti Entropy Thermal Nullifier set up. I had a semi-original idea for once! Inspired by your dirt cooker 1 video, I came up with a system that could effectively remove quite a bit of heat for not much cost. Use a thermal aquatuner submerged in water (or polluted water but that would complicate things even more). The aquatuner would run a petroleum cooling loop that would collect large "quantities" of heat from your base, geysers, vents and such. With some fancy liquid shutoff valve automation to create a loop in the aquatuner's output/input, you could effectively cool the petroleum to super cool temperatures and then distribute it to hot areas of your base. Now this is where the whole system comes together...if you expose the hot water tank to open space (protected by bunker tiles, doors, or steam turbines), the hot water will eventually vaporize from the aquatuner constantly cooling petroleum (which inversely means heating the water). The vaporized water or steam will then get sucked into space. The whole system would take maybe 1000 kW and an occasional trickle of water, but it would be a super AC unit for all your systems. If you do find this comment, it would probably require a dedicated debug mode testing video to get it working, but I feel like it would definitely be worth it in the long run because of all the heat that needs deleting in the map. Thank you for reading this stupidly long comment if you took the time to read the whole thing.
If a door is exposed to an open tile that the gas can flow into (vacuum or same type of gas), then the gas will be compressed into that area (e.g. 1 kg of hydrogen per tile of gas "inside" an opened door will get compressed into an open tile also containing hydrogen to create one tile of hydrogen at 3 kg pressure). However, if there are no open tiles around a door that's closing (like the setup Brothgar is using where the two inner doors are surrounded by tiles or closed doors almost all the time), then the gas "inside" the open door will get deleted. Side note, not sure if it's still in the game, but when gas got deleted by doors in previous versions of the game and even though a vacuum in the game can't transfer heat, the deleted gas would cause a small heat deletion which would eventually make super cool temperatures at and surrounding the doors. Hope this answers your question and leaves you with a little more knowledge than you had before (if so, my goal has been accomplished).
Yes, i have. But as renewable enery goes its not very efficient. I've put the blueprint onto Blueprints Not Included page if you want to download the yaml file and recreate it on your own. If not, use an aditional lighter gas that is , when steam compresses enough, 3 kilo of pressure difference less than steam on the generator level.
I'm guessing that that's methane. He just used it for aesthetics. I'm not 100% sure though. The ONI wiki page has images of the gases under the gases section along with the gas names.
wow you just tried to find an efficient way of cooling down Hydrogen of the vent and found a extrem efficient way of compressing Gas ;D Dont need to power it but ill do it because i can :D you became rich on Hydrogen After priming the System and now he can power everything :D
all that work and next cycle the geysers go into dormancy for 70 cycles... hate it, all the fun there is harvesting geysers and klei says no fun allowed :< surprised you didnt use more thermal shift plates but thats pretty cool :D
I see this ultra complex hydrogen collection system there and then here i am with this super simple solution that runs fine, eats only power when it is needed and also cools itself passivly down to managable temperatures, with a infinite hydrogen storage: imgur.com/a/DHlyP1h Brothgar up your game! You can do the most complex things that i have ever seen, but try to use simple things too. It makes live so much easier and more relyable xD (Note i am just making a motivation joke, like this post is there to help him get things easier done)
I clicked as fast as I could because I knew that this episode is gonna be steamy!
I think you are wasting a lot of steam due to overpressure by forcing the liquid to wait to cool down before allowing it into the geyser room. Cooling the liquid by same amount of degrees takes less time when the liquid is hotter. A continuous loop should be more efficient.
Also I find it a bit wasteful to use AETN just to condense steam. I condense steam geyser with toilet water regulated to 100g/s flow and dumping the hot polluted water into a sieve. Polluted water evaporates at 120° so the steam geyser will never break the pipes.
And I just came up with an idea that you can get a tiny bit more efficiency if you run the cold hydrogen from the pump thru the hot hydrogen again before you destroy it in the AETN.
I agree, not sure why he refers this start-stop method in the cooling fluid. It should run continuous so it can reach steady state. The main reason is because if energy transfer is anything like real life, then the rate of exchange is based on the temperature difference between the enviroment and the liquid in the pipe, so by making it stop to wait for a certain temperature, the Delta T is smaller so it takes progressively longer and longer (same applies for the hot side).
The thing is, he was worried he'd overload the wheezeworts and nullifier if he continuously ran the loop. He said as much when he spoke of the benefits of putting just enough petrol into the pipes.
isn't the toilet thing a bug that is just not being fixed.
doesn't the sieve act live a mini nullifier as well, since the clean water always comes out at 40 degrees?
@@ironboy3245 Yes it does. If you have a source of polluted water and filter material (yay, regolith might be useful!)
I've actually found that building a room next to a geyser, with a door system like that of the one you have with the hydrogen generator. Works really well. This second room is mostly a vacuum that you have lots of pre-cooled pipes in and once those pips are super cold (-1 or lower) you open the doors, the steam rushes in, heats up the pipes.. the doors close.. the steam condenses and the the room is once again in a vacuum but with lots of water at the bottom. This stops the steam from warming the water up, and if you want you can also cool the water down too and keep it cool.
In my experience a wheezewort (2 actually) can handle the output of a natural gas geyser and prevent the pump from overheating. Try wheezeworts in series next to a hydrogen vent. That could remove the need to make a cooling system.
Brothgar, I watch a lot of your videos because you are simply the best (bar none) at helping me learn ONI. I've finally been able to build my first colony that can last infinitely thanks to all your help. I do however have a real problem getting the "natural" hang of automation logic (when and how to integrate a combination of gates). I know tutorials aren't really your highest interest, but would you be able to do a showcase of what helps you understand how to build with them so players like myself can become independent with automation and perhaps one day can create something unique for the community? Maybe you can even make an experiment or challenge out of pushing the limits of automation logic, two birds one stone!
Really appreciate all that you are doing, keep it up!
Brothgar, I've used the thermal shift plates in conjunction with the radiant pipes, which helps the transfer of thermal energies. I use them to direct cool many things and since they work as background tiles. If you ran a radiant pipe with thermal tiles behind the pipes it will speed up the thermal transfer, both to gain energy or to dissipate it.
I have 2 cool steam near each other. They were heat saturating the area around them. I was able to calm it down by using a passive oil loop that transferred heat between those geysers and a pool of oil that I cooled with an aquatuner(that is in polluted water).
I used pretty much the same design on a polluted vent that 6 wheezeworts couldn't handle as well as a prototype reservoir for glass and metal refinery.
Having an aquatuner in polluted water then pumping that hot polluted water out has been real nice. I could boil it but there is an infinite amount of regolith I may as well use.
To cool the hydrogen you could also tricke some polluted water over a metal tile over the hydrogen chamber, transforming it into steam. With a thermo sensor in this room keeping it below 125°C you could also pump this steam back into the other system easily
brothgar you can make your radiators more effiiecient by doing one simple thing: remove the liquid(gas) shut off valves, and let the coolant circulate constantly.
not only will you save energy because you dont need to power the temp. senmsopr and the shut off valve but you will mkae the heat exchange faster.
The formula mcat the t is a delta T. This means that to get the most out of a radiator system you want to keep the Delta T as afar apart as possible.
by stopping the coolant and letting it rest to come up or down to temp you are decreasing the differences in delta T. by keeping the system constantly circulating you maximize the delta T of the system
Instead of using your door setup, put the pump directly at the hydrogen vent and cool the pump. The amount of Hydrogen coming out of the vent is pretty low. Which means that there is not much mass of hydrogen to transfer the heat, when you keep the pressure in the hydrogen chamber low.
I testet it with an hydrogen cooling loop, cooled by a Nullifier. I kept the pump easily around 20 degrees with this.
Also, my take on nullifiers is, that i never try to cool down fluids. Its way easier to cool down gases and use them.
For example I basicly never cool down water. In the mid-late game my primary use for water is to make oxygen. And its way easier to cool down the Oxygen, insteat of water.
that cool slush geyser you found could cool the entire system way faster then that thermo nullifier could. Polluted water shouldnt turn to steam when cooling a cool steam vent then you just delete the heat into a liquid Sieve.
i think you should, put the hydrogen setup above the vent, that way the gas can flow better and so the cold temp can flow down wards and help pre cool the hydrogen.
A long time ago you made a cooling loop that is what i still use today. It was a closed off system with Petroleum in the middle with a pump everything surrounded by plastic. Outside of that it was hight pressure hydrogen with Wheezewort to cool the hydrogen and the petroleum at the same time. The only thing i added was that before the petrol left the enclosure i used radiant pipes to go around the hydrogen. I am using the same seed as you, and this system seems to work better and less troublesome.
Something that gives you a lot of cooling capacity is polluted water from bathrooms. I mean a lot more than a nullifier. Just drag it across your cool steam vent before sieving it. It can easily handle both steam vents and more.
A nullifier is strong, but I find it's better used for things that should be cooled as much as it can, like NG generators. -173 is hard to get without the nullifiers, so I would feel it's wasted on cooling hydroogen and steam. Things for which 40 degrees is enough should be cooled by sieves and carbon scrubbers first, and really hot things like the hydrogen can even be cooled by petroleum from refineries (70°) or crude oil.
Hey Brothgar, dont know the answer at all, cause i dont know if the gas geysers can overpressure more than 5kg, but in my actual game, i've dropped a bit of polluted water, by mistake, obviously, over one of my natural gas geysers and it doesn't overpressures ever. i've reached up to 28Kg in a 100tiles room. could be a glitch...
With a wezzwort over a normal vent you can fill a space with unlimited pressure. I’ve had rooms with 80kg of gas per tile. It has to be just one gas tho. Once you mix gasses it gets messed up
I believe you found an exploit in this video... The normal gas vent can only pressurize until 2kg per tile. But since you put them beside an airflow tile with Wheeze Worts on top of them, the pressure keeps getting lower, so the gas vent doesn't over pressurize.
Interesting!
Would it not be simpler to just pump the steam into the AETN chamber? The steam never gets over 125C so it won't damage the pumps.
Try the Downloadable map Nubrion - you can get it on the steam workshop and it completely changes almost all of the biomes!
Disabling the steam cooler, when you're out of hydrogen might be useful. Getting more hydrogen should be a first priority, then use that to cool the steam when you have excess.
Then maybe use the water to create hydrogen and oxygen, to cool it down even more?
Maybe a sensor to only put coolant into the steam when the hydrogen feed to the nullifier is backed up.
Looking forward to see the drone thing!! :o
I've done a similar setup in 1 of my bases. Though i did not bother trying to cool down the Hydrogen down at all. I just pumped it straight into the room i made for the nullifier with a high pressure gas vent. Once it gets down to temperature the room it stays there. Then i just let a very small amount of liquid run through the loop continuously.
Trying to cool the gas down before pumping it into the room doesn't help that much. It only speeds up the intial cool down. If anything i would put the wheeze warts in the geyser room. not the nullifer room.
vacuum seal the steam vent and pump out the water until it stays at 110. pump the steam past the AETN in packets of less then 100 g/s pour them out at less then steam temp in another room with pump for the water. at less then 10% volume the contents will not change state.
Hello Brothgar, I have a question concerning metal refineries. What is the best material for them. I made them out of abysselite, becaue +200 °C overtemperature. Problem is they get warmer after use but refuse to cool down because of the zero conductivity.
Another question: Can you use (hot) steam vents to power steam generators? are they hot enough? It says, it would produce steam at 500 °C but for me it seems like more 160 °C - 200°C. Maybe I have just to wait a little bit more till the whole system is heated up enough...
Keep it up brothgar!
Please make a gas compressor with wheseworts
you might be able to use wheezewort to compress and cool the polluted oxygen from the geyser in your base for decontamination
Tried something like this in a real map and the distance messes with the fluid in Abyssalite pipes unless they fixed it, even insulated ones seem to let heat touch the fluid in them moving from one chamber far way.
Brothgar, why not make a polluted purification system by the steam geyser using the thermal aquatuner? Do you have a slush geyser by chance?
Why not using the hot hydrogen to heat up water for steampower?
The hyrogen becomes cooler and the steam laters returns to beeing liquit by the nullifier.
I just got a cool Idea
in the next update the developers could add a paint system so you can colour code your pipes, wires and other transport mediums so when you open an overlay like gas pipes you can se what system is what because it is cooler coded.
eg( hydrogen generator system red and hydrogen cooler blue)
I am wondering, the gas reservoir you can clean germs if it is exposed to chlorine. Can you use this to cool a larger charge of gas? what would happen if you have steam in one and it is cooled? just curious :)
could you put a "new" water/gas in a cold biome to pre-cool liquid/gas ?
Hey Brothgar,
my problem is almost everytime the dormancy of all those geysers for like 30-70ish cycles.
E.G. my Powerplant with Natural Gas Generators using the gas of a natural gas geyser...
I need a high amount of power in my base, just too much that i could just save it in batteries for the x cycles dormancy of the geyser.
Then in this time i run out of power and everything collapse...
Same with water or oxygen etc.
Worst case scenario is when two geysers i tapped, have a dormancy at the same time.... xD
Anyone have solutions?
23:47 Your power usage is about 1000 while your Hydrogen is only outputting 800. I do think you want your doors to be powered. Heat is a dangerous thing. But in all, not everything is going to run at the same time but there will be times when they do.
If this series is all about making automation you might want to optimize this a bit more.
Can a nullifier run if submerged in a liquid?
i have used an hydrogen vent before, if u get some H in that chamber at 10c, it will cool the new one
Helium? Was that an old element that has been since removed?
Brothgar u smart I like this
I love the video, but I question the effectiveness of this set up. It seemed to get a little hung up with the cooling, so I've pasted an old comment of mine that would make use of some of the game mechanics available since the Cosmic Upgrade. Because I haven't gotten around to actually purchasing and playing Oxygen Not Included, I can only brainstorm on how this system would work which means I don't actually know if this system is any more or less effective than your Anti Entropy Thermal Nullifier set up.
I had a semi-original idea for once! Inspired by your dirt cooker 1 video, I came up with a system that could effectively remove quite a bit of heat for not much cost. Use a thermal aquatuner submerged in water (or polluted water but that would complicate things even more). The aquatuner would run a petroleum cooling loop that would collect large "quantities" of heat from your base, geysers, vents and such. With some fancy liquid shutoff valve automation to create a loop in the aquatuner's output/input, you could effectively cool the petroleum to super cool temperatures and then distribute it to hot areas of your base. Now this is where the whole system comes together...if you expose the hot water tank to open space (protected by bunker tiles, doors, or steam turbines), the hot water will eventually vaporize from the aquatuner constantly cooling petroleum (which inversely means heating the water). The vaporized water or steam will then get sucked into space. The whole system would take maybe 1000 kW and an occasional trickle of water, but it would be a super AC unit for all your systems. If you do find this comment, it would probably require a dedicated debug mode testing video to get it working, but I feel like it would definitely be worth it in the long run because of all the heat that needs deleting in the map. Thank you for reading this stupidly long comment if you took the time to read the whole thing.
I'm curious, do we know if the doors destroy the gases or they just push them out?
If a door is exposed to an open tile that the gas can flow into (vacuum or same type of gas), then the gas will be compressed into that area (e.g. 1 kg of hydrogen per tile of gas "inside" an opened door will get compressed into an open tile also containing hydrogen to create one tile of hydrogen at 3 kg pressure). However, if there are no open tiles around a door that's closing (like the setup Brothgar is using where the two inner doors are surrounded by tiles or closed doors almost all the time), then the gas "inside" the open door will get deleted. Side note, not sure if it's still in the game, but when gas got deleted by doors in previous versions of the game and even though a vacuum in the game can't transfer heat, the deleted gas would cause a small heat deletion which would eventually make super cool temperatures at and surrounding the doors. Hope this answers your question and leaves you with a little more knowledge than you had before (if so, my goal has been accomplished).
good luck with dat flying thing
has anyone ever made a trully working steam turbine without using sandbox-mode?
yes with a Iron Volcano and a glass forge. here is the the link for the picture: imgur.com/a/fNtqzdD
Has anyone ever really made a truly working steam turbine WITH sandbox mode?
Yes, i have. But as renewable enery goes its not very efficient. I've put the blueprint onto Blueprints Not Included page if you want to download the yaml file and recreate it on your own. If not, use an aditional lighter gas that is , when steam compresses enough, 3 kilo of pressure difference less than steam on the generator level.
Yes, I used the power of Regolith!
Can u be more specific?
What is that orangeish gas around the testing area?
I'm guessing that that's methane. He just used it for aesthetics. I'm not 100% sure though. The ONI wiki page has images of the gases under the gases section along with the gas names.
looks like sour gas (when crude oil gets too hot, it no longer turns into natural gas, it turns into sour gas)
Alright, thanks guys
wow you just tried to find an efficient way of cooling down Hydrogen of the vent and found a extrem efficient way of compressing Gas ;D
Dont need to power it but ill do it because i can :D you became rich on Hydrogen After priming the System and now he can power everything :D
all that work and next cycle the geysers go into dormancy for 70 cycles... hate it, all the fun there is harvesting geysers and klei says no fun allowed :<
surprised you didnt use more thermal shift plates but thats pretty cool :D
I see this ultra complex hydrogen collection system there and then here i am with this super simple solution that runs fine, eats only power when it is needed and also cools itself passivly down to managable temperatures, with a infinite hydrogen storage:
imgur.com/a/DHlyP1h
Brothgar up your game! You can do the most complex things that i have ever seen, but try to use simple things too. It makes live so much easier and more relyable xD
(Note i am just making a motivation joke, like this post is there to help him get things easier done)
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So rather than try it in you series and actually have consequences to you figuring it out. You're gonna cheat and find the answer be for hand?
:)