This was an extremely well explained (esp. on Hall effect, easy to understand!) and contextualized review of HE boards. It paints the right picture of what’s on the market when you come from an enthusiast side. It might have been fun to also have seen a big retail brand in between to further contextualize expectations. A lot of respect for the time and effort put into this. 🎉
For real though, I second the petition for a split keyboard. It would be the thing that makes me switch so long as its not over the ~$220 mark and has an option at least for 75% layout like the keychron q11
I would like RTS games get testest with that keyboard! You're spamming modifiers a lot with shift and ctrl. Sometimes its hard to get them going well enough buy releasing the keys if you're spamming 200-250apm constantly. I am not sure about buyinng the Wooting 80HE but would be interested to see it in hands of an good rts player. Would test it myself even, because i am super intersted. Myself coming from an older Razer Black widow. Also i am an 100% tactile entousiast because i am typing also very fast with 10fingers and i like the feedback. Is there something comparable with the wooting keyboard?
I feel like the true potential of HE keyboards are currently being limited by games themselves. If there was an "enable analog input" option, you could have player movement speed tied to the % keypress, much like is possible in Trackmania, instead of it just being a binary "moving" or "not moving".
There is also an incentive for mainstream developers to design HE capabilities out of their games over time to defeat rapid trigger from giving a hardware advantage which could potentially put off the wider player base from buying their games because they feel that in order to be competitive; money needs to be spent.
Not just games but also game companies. Valve just banned snap tap from CS2 which is understandable but still disappointing because it was a clear advantage that HE has over mechanical.
@@BenedictTanShanWen i use wooting 60he on WoW. Rapid trigger does not work there due to the global cooldown. Snap tapp is also useless. But, the multi tap feature is great because you can bind up to 4 keys in a single button.
@zeffmalchazeen3429 these are all valid concerns, but everybody here is still talking about converting the analog signal of the keypress (0-100%) into binary (0 OR 100%) movement, which is where all the snaptap and wrappy snappy spanky wanky hey macarana comes from. Ban that, whatever. What we really have yet to see is truly analog movement. Like, if you have "A" pressed down 71%, your character strafes left at 71% speed. Thing is, while this could give players another interesting tool for controlling their movement, it would 100% have to start from game devs coding fully analog 0-100% movement into their game. Which I actually think is really good, because it wouldn't even be appropriate to add in every game (like CS, that game is balanced around very specific movement speeds and should stay that way) and should be left in control of the devs.
The Osume three-tier shelf is an absolute banger of a product. A lot of shelves waste too much space because of the angling but this one is just vertical and boy I have a lot of vertical space. I like it so much that I've already bought a second one(ok maybe I have too many keebs)
Same. I balked at the price at first but compared to the dinky acrylic options out there it looks like a much nicer option that saves space and doesn't press keys.
Geon is currently on his second iteration of HE switches and his newer RAW HE switches sound really good. Coming from the enthusiast side of the hobby, I was impressed. Definitely recommend checking them out.
Thanks for the heads up! I did have few vendors reach out asking to check out the latest HE switches with "sound improvements." Perhaps I can try to include that into the 80HE review!
Yeah I've bought a complete set of Geon RAW HEs for my incoming 80HE. Every soundtest I've heard of them demonstrate that they have a VERY clean and clacky sound. Now all that's left is to wait for October for my keyboard to arrive...
Wooting has a function called mod tap where you can assign any 4 keys as arrow keys as long as you tap them. For holding arrow keys you then need to use the fn key to use another layer
Got the 60HE. I did the following mods and overall i'm very happy how the sound improved: Tofu60 Redux Case, silicon sleeves on the mounting points, additional thin silicon sheet in the case and finally the Gateron Magnetic Jade switches. That said, i mainly use it for gaming, but you can type on it without getting goose bumps. The stock experience with the Lekker switches was very unsatisfying...
God i tried to do timestamps for the whole video, it is hard!! I respect anyone who does that I wonder how that dude does this for 3 hour ltt wan shows, just crazy. And i can't imagine how long this took to edit, props to you Scott
I feel like the wooting has a good amount of customization available that you can kinda bridge the gap between an enthusiast mechanical keyboard and a hall effect board. Me personally I'm running it with Geon Raw HE switches, gummy o ring mounted, and an FR4 plate. Sounds pretty good, nowhere near as good as my customs BUT very good for a gaming HE keyboard for not that much effort put in.
Must watch video. As a Wooting 60HE + 80HE user, I'm glad this also confirms it's still all good. Their software is just so easy to use, share profile settings through a code etc. I'm looking forward to the new V5 futures for the LED bar and the integration of Background Services..
Wooting's software allows their keyboard to emulate an analog gamepad and at the same time offer keyboard functions. Do all these competitors do this too?
Keychron's Q1 HE does. Just got it in today, has the gamepad analog emulation function in the software, and tbh about as good as wootings software as a competitor could possibly get.
What a tremendously thoughtful and thorough comparison! Will say I’m not ready to give up the MX sound or my preferred 60% layout as of yet (7u spacebar, split right shift and split backspace), but it seems like that day might come eventually as these grow in popularity and more custom options become available!
Amazing content, Scott. People should understand the differences between analog and digital switches and this explains it really well. Now i want to know more about the big gaming companies like Steelseries or Razer and how they compete gaming-wise with wooting. One day maybe we can have a gaming keyboard with Wooting HE gaming performance with Aula F75 sound and feel.
Excellent video, mate! I've had the Q1 HE for several months. It's a beast and my all time favorite keyboard. I'm now looking for a 65% HE. Keychron is releasing one within a few months.
Wooting PCB not only is compatible in terms of switches, but that universal tray mount and standard GH60-style layout (including the USB) makes it even more versatile since there's still a good handful of keyboards with USB cutouts for GH60 left-handed usb ports. Frog Mini makes for a good option for top mount, and I actually like doing an o-ring mount in the redux case. Also did basically one of the day-1 frankens by putting the lekker stems into the Geon Raptor housings, combine that with a CF plate (or get an alu plate from hypekeyboards), and overall I'm really pleased. It still noticably has that signature HE sound but it's a lot more approachable, just maybe a bit thin on the sound. If the RAW switches come up to the hype, then I think HE will be in good hands soon. I just wish the wooting 80HE didn't have that f-row FC660 layout and didn't use that plate-silicone mount.
I want wooting for its software, i tried drunkdeer and the a75 pro feels nice and premium but one of its core problems is no game recognizes its analog like mode rendering an expensive part of it useless, so I went and ordered for he 2 (I prefer full boards).
Best software at least for Wooting so far, as for keyboard parts it's all about preference, i would recommand getting the 60HE PCB kit and slap it in your favorite ( compatible ) 60 % case, as for the 80HE i don't really see the need for this format but once again everyone have different needs, and i will change my lekker switches soon as i find one that have a sound i like.
F keys always at the ready and separate from the rest of the keys is a big reason why as well as extra side keys and arrow keys separate. It's insanely useful for non-competitive games that use a lot of keys like Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen, Arma 3, Squad, some strategy games, Flight Simulator, Mechwarrior, Baldur's Gate 3, WoW and FF14, etc etc. Essentially a ton of non-FPS games.
Since many don't like the sound of HE keyboards, could you do a short-form video of the most impactful/best mods to improve the sound of an HE keyboard? I would assume steps would be to lube everything, tape the PCB, install sound dampener (e.g. kilmat), get thick/good keycaps?
Two things I kinda like when typing: Rapid fire on backspace Keys adjusted to 2.2mm actuation (similar to MX) but spacebar set to 1.4mm as I found that sometimes it didn't register
Just ordered a bunch of Gateron Jade Pro, came with great factory lube but still sound bad on my QK65 V2 Classic. For the same price you can get Angry Miao Icy V2 pro and the AM switches sound so much better
If I were to pick up a Wooting as an all-round driver, strong gaming performance but acceptable typing performance, would it fit that bill if I used multiple profiles such as the Two HE supports were I to configure a typing specific profile with maxed actuation points? Preferably with an option to hotswap to more silent HE switches as they become available.
IMO wooting is good but not as game changing as people think. Only exception is osu, because wooting completely changed the meta of the game. Definitely a nice keyboard though, got one myself and modded with fr4 plate, raptor he switches, tofu case, and durock v3 stabs. It feels very nice to type on and wooting’s web app is the goat.
thats one thing i hate about HE is compatibility and the sad thing like you said most of these switches are made by the same company so i really dont get the variation, its just making things proprietary for no reason
Great video and I've been contemplating an 80HE so it helps -- I don't really like this scoring format though. You could have a keyboard be "sliiiiiightly better in most categories" and then be absolutely horrible in another category, but it would still get the biggest score. Similarly, say a keyboard has a feel that is way-way better than all the others -- that wouldnt really be represented in the score, it'd still just be 1 point higher than all the others. I think it'd be a lot better if you just rate them all 1-10 on each category, independently of the others. that's just me though, thanks for the comparison!
Would have been nice if you had explained how you rated the gaming category ... shouldn't all keyboards with arrow keys have max points, the rest 4 points or less since they are needed for some games ... u have said all HE function are like the same on all boards?!
The Q1 HE is good for wireless gaming because the dongle is 1k polling and you are never super far away from your computer, I also immediately changed the key caps out to cherry and just top lubed the switches which made it sound pretty darn good. You need to update the firmware right away though, I was a KS backer and the initial firmware had that key push problem but it's no longer there after the firmware updates. I do still have my Wooting 60HE and it's got the aluminum case with other mods on it but I don't use it anymore because of the wireless on the Q1 HE, I also have the non pre-build version of the 80HE coming then I'll have the best balance of both depends on what I'm doing. :-D
Hey Scott, I think you did a pretty good job describing all the stuff around HE keyboards. I think, even though this particular combination was not really your thing sound and feel wise, the concept of a universal tray-mount PCB like the Rakka you showed with Wooting switch compatibility and all that combined with a 60% case that suits your preferences might be the most interesting option for people that are a little bit deeper into the hobby already. If i was looking for an HE keyboard I‘d mainly look at layout compatibility (split backspace and right shift matters to me, as well as a 7u bottom row) and how independent the software is from companies and how much is open sourced. In addition, I can just slap that in any case I want then, combined with a (probably better stiffer) plate I enjoy. I think even gummy o-ring mount could potentially work out. In this particular field you can definitely see a few things happening already, with Geon apparently starting to make PCBs that seem to suit these kind of needs as well.
If more PCBs like that come out in the future, I would actually be interested to explore that new technology and play around with it‘s sound and how far you can go in terms of mounting/feel also.
I'm surprised you didnt get the drunkdeer for the budget option. It's even cheaper than the melgeek, so i think there's a lot of value for what they offer.
Which keyboards have analogue output though? I know Wooting does. What about the others? (The video even teases the benefits of analogue output in racing games, but then fails to mention which keyboards even have gamepad emulation ... a bit misleading, since I know not all keyboards even have that capability)
@@Keybored now that I think about it not too much, really - bunch of foams (kilmat + pillow stuffing), force break, tape obviously, and most importantly, the switches are hand lubed. Sounds great, works in rhythm games well.
Wooting makes great keyboards for sure but other more available options are out there. I just purchased the GMMK 3 HE and its been great it's performance is awesome and it's available at just about any bestbuy or Amazon. The cons for sure are the spacebar and stabilizers could be better but overall for a $189.99 keyboard I would say I am satisfied with my purchase.
@@Keybored agreed the HE market will keep booming I have tried the new razer and apex boards along with Corsair and the build quality is not there software is decent but you pay more for the name brand and the performance is definitely not what these major companies say they are. But I have had glorious boards since day one and always have been great and reliable I would like to eventually get a drunk deer board and polar pro 65.
I'm glad Meletrix that is selling the HE module for the Boog separately so you can actually build a Zoom75 with the Boog module if you want the Zoom75 aesthetics. The software was definitely a bit clunky but they are still developing it and I'm hoping that this improves... I still actually want SOCD control and they say they're still working on it. Rapid trigger works and macros are hard to understand but as a board, it's basically a worse sounding Zoom75 with HE trigger sensitivity. Meletrix also maintains a list of compatible switches. But honestly they're all still pretty weak compared to even a good Speed switch like the Gateron Smoothie Silver.
@@Keybored hmmm that didnt happen to me i had q w e a s d on the lowest since i play FPS games but i set it later to .2 since i didnt like that sometimes i touched 2 keys at once and i have also a typing and gaming profile that i switch ( if the stabs would be better stock and more switches then those 3 they have on the website it would be a wooting killer i just like more the build quality of the keychron )
sorry I don't like my keyboards to sound like a transformer operating a jackhammer. I like them as quiet as they can be while still being snappy so I am not distracted and so I don't distract others. Why the hell would you want your keyboard to make noise? Ridiculous.
Wooting has demonstrated how the entire MX custom keyboard industry has ignored and failed gamers. There is nothing to prevent MX custom keyboard firmware having a UI to QMK that is as easy to use and provides functionality similar to Hall effect keys. The custom keyboard community is guilty of being anti-gamer.
This was an extremely well explained (esp. on Hall effect, easy to understand!) and contextualized review of HE boards. It paints the right picture of what’s on the market when you come from an enthusiast side.
It might have been fun to also have seen a big retail brand in between to further contextualize expectations.
A lot of respect for the time and effort put into this. 🎉
MAKE A SPLIT HE KEYBOARD PLEASE WOOTING
AND GIVE IT MODULAR THUMB CLUSTERS OR A TMR JOYSTICK
For real though, I second the petition for a split keyboard. It would be the thing that makes me switch so long as its not over the ~$220 mark and has an option at least for 75% layout like the keychron q11
I would like RTS games get testest with that keyboard! You're spamming modifiers a lot with shift and ctrl. Sometimes its hard to get them going well enough buy releasing the keys if you're spamming 200-250apm constantly. I am not sure about buyinng the Wooting 80HE but would be interested to see it in hands of an good rts player. Would test it myself even, because i am super intersted. Myself coming from an older Razer Black widow. Also i am an 100% tactile entousiast because i am typing also very fast with 10fingers and i like the feedback. Is there something comparable with the wooting keyboard?
Wooting gaming mouse pls
I feel like the true potential of HE keyboards are currently being limited by games themselves. If there was an "enable analog input" option, you could have player movement speed tied to the % keypress, much like is possible in Trackmania, instead of it just being a binary "moving" or "not moving".
I do agree with you! Even in forza, it took a bit to set it up so that it was effective. But when I did, it was a huge impact!
There is also an incentive for mainstream developers to design HE capabilities out of their games over time to defeat rapid trigger from giving a hardware advantage which could potentially put off the wider player base from buying their games because they feel that in order to be competitive; money needs to be spent.
Not just games but also game companies. Valve just banned snap tap from CS2 which is understandable but still disappointing because it was a clear advantage that HE has over mechanical.
@@BenedictTanShanWen i use wooting 60he on WoW. Rapid trigger does not work there due to the global cooldown. Snap tapp is also useless. But, the multi tap feature is great because you can bind up to 4 keys in a single button.
@zeffmalchazeen3429 these are all valid concerns, but everybody here is still talking about converting the analog signal of the keypress (0-100%) into binary (0 OR 100%) movement, which is where all the snaptap and wrappy snappy spanky wanky hey macarana comes from. Ban that, whatever. What we really have yet to see is truly analog movement. Like, if you have "A" pressed down 71%, your character strafes left at 71% speed. Thing is, while this could give players another interesting tool for controlling their movement, it would 100% have to start from game devs coding fully analog 0-100% movement into their game. Which I actually think is really good, because it wouldn't even be appropriate to add in every game (like CS, that game is balanced around very specific movement speeds and should stay that way) and should be left in control of the devs.
The Osume three-tier shelf is an absolute banger of a product. A lot of shelves waste too much space because of the angling but this one is just vertical and boy I have a lot of vertical space.
I like it so much that I've already bought a second one(ok maybe I have too many keebs)
I agree! I saw it and was very impressed at the construction and the silicone sleeving!
Same. I balked at the price at first but compared to the dinky acrylic options out there it looks like a much nicer option that saves space and doesn't press keys.
4:20 the most accurate use of “resolution” on youtube thats not talking about images. Excellent
Geon is currently on his second iteration of HE switches and his newer RAW HE switches sound really good. Coming from the enthusiast side of the hobby, I was impressed. Definitely recommend checking them out.
Thanks for the heads up! I did have few vendors reach out asking to check out the latest HE switches with "sound improvements." Perhaps I can try to include that into the 80HE review!
GEON RAW HE can recommend.
@@Wooting I'm saving that for the 80HE video!
Yeah I've bought a complete set of Geon RAW HEs for my incoming 80HE. Every soundtest I've heard of them demonstrate that they have a VERY clean and clacky sound. Now all that's left is to wait for October for my keyboard to arrive...
How is the stem wobble on the geons? I find the Lekker v2s in my 80he wobble a lot more than I'm used to from most mx switches
Wooting has a function called mod tap where you can assign any 4 keys as arrow keys as long as you tap them. For holding arrow keys you then need to use the fn key to use another layer
Got the 60HE. I did the following mods and overall i'm very happy how the sound improved: Tofu60 Redux Case, silicon sleeves on the mounting points, additional thin silicon sheet in the case and finally the Gateron Magnetic Jade switches. That said, i mainly use it for gaming, but you can type on it without getting goose bumps. The stock experience with the Lekker switches was very unsatisfying...
Wooting was the keyboard we needed to change the keyboard game forever.
:) the 80HE is out. I have one here, but I need my studio to setup so I can create content!
God i tried to do timestamps for the whole video, it is hard!!
I respect anyone who does that
I wonder how that dude does this for 3 hour ltt wan shows, just crazy.
And i can't imagine how long this took to edit, props to you Scott
I feel like the wooting has a good amount of customization available that you can kinda bridge the gap between an enthusiast mechanical keyboard and a hall effect board. Me personally I'm running it with Geon Raw HE switches, gummy o ring mounted, and an FR4 plate. Sounds pretty good, nowhere near as good as my customs BUT very good for a gaming HE keyboard for not that much effort put in.
Must watch video. As a Wooting 60HE + 80HE user, I'm glad this also confirms it's still all good. Their software is just so easy to use, share profile settings through a code etc. I'm looking forward to the new V5 futures for the LED bar and the integration of Background Services..
Wooting's software allows their keyboard to emulate an analog gamepad and at the same time offer keyboard functions. Do all these competitors do this too?
Keychron's Q1 HE does. Just got it in today, has the gamepad analog emulation function in the software, and tbh about as good as wootings software as a competitor could possibly get.
What a tremendously thoughtful and thorough comparison! Will say I’m not ready to give up the MX sound or my preferred 60% layout as of yet (7u spacebar, split right shift and split backspace), but it seems like that day might come eventually as these grow in popularity and more custom options become available!
Im going to try out some new HE switches with this and see if I can make the perfect version!
@@Keybored looking forward to that!!
Amazing content, Scott. People should understand the differences between analog and digital switches and this explains it really well. Now i want to know more about the big gaming companies like Steelseries or Razer and how they compete gaming-wise with wooting. One day maybe we can have a gaming keyboard with Wooting HE gaming performance with Aula F75 sound and feel.
Excellent video, mate! I've had the Q1 HE for several months. It's a beast and my all time favorite keyboard. I'm now looking for a 65% HE. Keychron is releasing one within a few months.
Actually never thought about using an HE keyboard for racing games.
Wooting PCB not only is compatible in terms of switches, but that universal tray mount and standard GH60-style layout (including the USB) makes it even more versatile since there's still a good handful of keyboards with USB cutouts for GH60 left-handed usb ports. Frog Mini makes for a good option for top mount, and I actually like doing an o-ring mount in the redux case. Also did basically one of the day-1 frankens by putting the lekker stems into the Geon Raptor housings, combine that with a CF plate (or get an alu plate from hypekeyboards), and overall I'm really pleased. It still noticably has that signature HE sound but it's a lot more approachable, just maybe a bit thin on the sound. If the RAW switches come up to the hype, then I think HE will be in good hands soon. I just wish the wooting 80HE didn't have that f-row FC660 layout and didn't use that plate-silicone mount.
Lol wow... we have the same exact 60HE setup. Redux case, CF plate, o-ring mounted, Lekker stems in Raptor housings. What are the chances!!
I want wooting for its software, i tried drunkdeer and the a75 pro feels nice and premium but one of its core problems is no game recognizes its analog like mode rendering an expensive part of it useless, so I went and ordered for he 2 (I prefer full boards).
Best software at least for Wooting so far, as for keyboard parts it's all about preference, i would recommand getting the 60HE PCB kit and slap it in your favorite ( compatible ) 60 % case, as for the 80HE i don't really see the need for this format but once again everyone have different needs, and i will change my lekker switches soon as i find one that have a sound i like.
I think this, with the newer gen HE switches that actually sound good might be the best of all worlds... that will be a topic in the future!
F keys always at the ready and separate from the rest of the keys is a big reason why as well as extra side keys and arrow keys separate. It's insanely useful for non-competitive games that use a lot of keys like Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen, Arma 3, Squad, some strategy games, Flight Simulator, Mechwarrior, Baldur's Gate 3, WoW and FF14, etc etc. Essentially a ton of non-FPS games.
Since many don't like the sound of HE keyboards, could you do a short-form video of the most impactful/best mods to improve the sound of an HE keyboard? I would assume steps would be to lube everything, tape the PCB, install sound dampener (e.g. kilmat), get thick/good keycaps?
Two things I kinda like when typing:
Rapid fire on backspace
Keys adjusted to 2.2mm actuation (similar to MX) but spacebar set to 1.4mm as I found that sometimes it didn't register
Just ordered a bunch of Gateron Jade Pro, came with great factory lube but still sound bad on my QK65 V2 Classic. For the same price you can get Angry Miao Icy V2 pro and the AM switches sound so much better
Great explanations, great video! The sound profile for these HE boards arent there yet for me but I am so excited to see what the future has in store!
the qk65v2 classic also offers a Hall Effect PCB that comes with their own HE switches
best HE review of the bunch so far. thanks for making it!
If I were to pick up a Wooting as an all-round driver, strong gaming performance but acceptable typing performance, would it fit that bill if I used multiple profiles such as the Two HE supports were I to configure a typing specific profile with maxed actuation points? Preferably with an option to hotswap to more silent HE switches as they become available.
If you haven't, you should calibrate your Keychron and see if that fixes the constant keypress
idk why, but i love the hollow sound of he switches
I have magnetic jades. Not hollow at all and they are HE switches. I think its just the ones in the video.
IMO wooting is good but not as game changing as people think. Only exception is osu, because wooting completely changed the meta of the game.
Definitely a nice keyboard though, got one myself and modded with fr4 plate, raptor he switches, tofu case, and durock v3 stabs. It feels very nice to type on and wooting’s web app is the goat.
woohoo you are back! welcome back bro!
Keychron Q1 HE sounds exactly like their regular mech keebs and has the best sound to me, but the BOOG75 is definitely the best aesthetic
Hi, great video ! I have a question if you don't mind me asking, what do you think of the ATK keyboard and mouse brand?
thats one thing i hate about HE is compatibility and the sad thing like you said most of these switches are made by the same company so i really dont get the variation, its just making things proprietary for no reason
I'm obsessed with lists. 10/10 list
Could use chapters.
Great video and I've been contemplating an 80HE so it helps -- I don't really like this scoring format though.
You could have a keyboard be "sliiiiiightly better in most categories" and then be absolutely horrible in another category, but it would still get the biggest score.
Similarly, say a keyboard has a feel that is way-way better than all the others -- that wouldnt really be represented in the score, it'd still just be 1 point higher than all the others.
I think it'd be a lot better if you just rate them all 1-10 on each category, independently of the others. that's just me though, thanks for the comparison!
Would have been nice if you had explained how you rated the gaming category ... shouldn't all keyboards with arrow keys have max points, the rest 4 points or less since they are needed for some games ... u have said all HE function are like the same on all boards?!
The Q1 HE is good for wireless gaming because the dongle is 1k polling and you are never super far away from your computer, I also immediately changed the key caps out to cherry and just top lubed the switches which made it sound pretty darn good. You need to update the firmware right away though, I was a KS backer and the initial firmware had that key push problem but it's no longer there after the firmware updates. I do still have my Wooting 60HE and it's got the aluminum case with other mods on it but I don't use it anymore because of the wireless on the Q1 HE, I also have the non pre-build version of the 80HE coming then I'll have the best balance of both depends on what I'm doing. :-D
Hey Scott, I think you did a pretty good job describing all the stuff around HE keyboards.
I think, even though this particular combination was not really your thing sound and feel wise, the concept of a universal tray-mount PCB like the Rakka you showed with Wooting switch compatibility and all that combined with a 60% case that suits your preferences might be the most interesting option for people that are a little bit deeper into the hobby already.
If i was looking for an HE keyboard I‘d mainly look at layout compatibility (split backspace and right shift matters to me, as well as a 7u bottom row) and how independent the software is from companies and how much is open sourced.
In addition, I can just slap that in any case I want then, combined with a (probably better stiffer) plate I enjoy. I think even gummy o-ring mount could potentially work out.
In this particular field you can definitely see a few things happening already, with Geon apparently starting to make PCBs that seem to suit these kind of needs as well.
If more PCBs like that come out in the future, I would actually be interested to explore that new technology and play around with it‘s sound and how far you can go in terms of mounting/feel also.
Someone mentioned... getting a wooting PCB, outfitting that with the latest gen HE switches that have better sound may be the best of all worlds!
Scott's Science Hour AND a tournament arc? Sign me up!
I love watching these videos even though I will never buy one as I love tactile switches too much
It's just the sound for me... It's really hard to transition
@@Keybored That’s the second factor. I’m not gonna buy a whole new keyboard just for it to sound much worse
I've waited a long time!! Please give me a lot of good videos🤩🤩
@@review.L thank you! It took a long time to move back!
A 30 minute keyboard video? Lets goooo
I know right? It was so long to edit!
Many of those keyboard in your list has bogus RT implementations, also key release delay is an important metric for magnetic keyboard.
I'm surprised you didnt get the drunkdeer for the budget option. It's even cheaper than the melgeek, so i think there's a lot of value for what they offer.
Would be nice if you could break your video up into sections/chapters for each one evaluated.
Man I was really hoping for that PWNAGE zenblade65. It is gaining a lot of traction and looks beautiful
Ahh man, was hoping to see the kyubi kit!
hi bro ill buy coiled cable i have 2 options between "GX-16" and "YC8 push n' pull" connector which one should i prefer ?
I really enjoyed watching this 30-minute keyboard video while eating tteokboki. I think I'll choose the Wooting!
Haha, thank you so much! You are resilient to watch all 30 minutes! I'll have to buy some tteokboki for you
Which keyboards have analogue output though? I know Wooting does. What about the others?
(The video even teases the benefits of analogue output in racing games, but then fails to mention which keyboards even have gamepad emulation ... a bit misleading, since I know not all keyboards even have that capability)
Only Razer has the option, not sure if it’s with every analog model, none of the other boards mentioned here have it.
do you have any recommendation for a keyboard that is wireless and has RT and SOCD that
Thanks! This really helped me decide what keyboard pcb to buy!
Glad to help!
I hate and love the intro so much. Good lord.
HE is the future of mechanical keyboards.
Modded wooting with gateron jades in a different case is the way to go
Scott, how do you keep your glasses so pristine? It's so impressive
Haha, I have to keep wiping them lol
Man I really want one I just have a hard time justifying that price tag, the markup seems absolutely insane
I'm sure as time passes, we'll start to see these closer to 100 soon
HEs are interesting. I modded tf out of a Monsgeek and it did great.
Hmm, that's interesting. What kind of mods did you do?
@@Keybored now that I think about it not too much, really - bunch of foams (kilmat + pillow stuffing), force break, tape obviously, and most importantly, the switches are hand lubed. Sounds great, works in rhythm games well.
Uh oh, then Hummingbird68 HE enters the chat too 😮💨
Wooting makes great keyboards for sure but other more available options are out there. I just purchased the GMMK 3 HE and its been great it's performance is awesome and it's available at just about any bestbuy or Amazon. The cons for sure are the spacebar and stabilizers could be better but overall for a $189.99 keyboard I would say I am satisfied with my purchase.
There will be more and more coming out!
@@Keybored agreed the HE market will keep booming I have tried the new razer and apex boards along with Corsair and the build quality is not there software is decent but you pay more for the name brand and the performance is definitely not what these major companies say they are. But I have had glorious boards since day one and always have been great and reliable I would like to eventually get a drunk deer board and polar pro 65.
I'll answer the question: buy the full size WOOTING
i want an HE SPLIT KEYBOARD PLEASE WOOTING
can you post 4 times a day, hard to find videos as good as yours
Thank you so much! This one was just so ridiculously long...
@@Keybored you keep me going in this hobby
I'm glad Meletrix that is selling the HE module for the Boog separately so you can actually build a Zoom75 with the Boog module if you want the Zoom75 aesthetics.
The software was definitely a bit clunky but they are still developing it and I'm hoping that this improves... I still actually want SOCD control and they say they're still working on it. Rapid trigger works and macros are hard to understand but as a board, it's basically a worse sounding Zoom75 with HE trigger sensitivity.
Meletrix also maintains a list of compatible switches. But honestly they're all still pretty weak compared to even a good Speed switch like the Gateron Smoothie Silver.
I haven't tried the others but my Monsgeek M1W HE-SP provides a better experience than my Wooting 60HE in every way except software.
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FPS but then shows 3rd person shooter first 😅.
Should update it to 80he
yessss and a Q1 HE i was waiting for you to do a video like this
It's a good keyboard. I think there was a bit of software bug with mine, but it was fine as long as I didn't set the actuation to .1MM
@@Keybored hmmm that didnt happen to me i had q w e a s d on the lowest since i play FPS games but i set it later to .2 since i didnt like that sometimes i touched 2 keys at once and i have also a typing and gaming profile that i switch ( if the stabs would be better stock and more switches then those 3 they have on the website it would be a wooting killer i just like more the build quality of the keychron )
Dont buy the 60he right now, pre-order the 80he
sorry I don't like my keyboards to sound like a transformer operating a jackhammer. I like them as quiet as they can be while still being snappy so I am not distracted and so I don't distract others. Why the hell would you want your keyboard to make noise? Ridiculous.
no drunkdeer ?
I didn't know this channel, and nearly clicked off due to that intro, thank god it was a bit
woooting er best
wait is there a keyboard youtube guy without annoying zoomer editing and meme garbage?
Ok ok you can stop know you were right, they all sound bad
30 whole minutes
Wooting has demonstrated how the entire MX custom keyboard industry has ignored and failed gamers.
There is nothing to prevent MX custom keyboard firmware having a UI to QMK that is as easy to use and provides functionality similar to Hall effect keys.
The custom keyboard community is guilty of being anti-gamer.
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Wooting is so overated ! They are just overpriced
1st
Congrats and Welcome!
never even mentioned the bad spray job wooting done on their aluminium case. sound more like a sponsored video than anything. 👎
and 2nd
Haha, you should also go for 3!
Too many of them are a gimmick and a money grabs