I've heard a good few songs now. It's not really my kind of thing, but I don't hate it - definitely some clever stuff going on there - great playing and production too 😎👍
I play a 7 in the studio, what i do is tune it to an open C minor 7th with the first three strings as a powerchord. I use those Korn signature strings. Im aware this is not traditional in any sense, im not a guitarist by any means, i make industrial music, but its really fun for quick riffing. The open top strings mean you can play pretty much any in scale note on the bottom three strings and the top ones add a fancy chord extension when they ring out Im explaining this in my non-guitar player speak so it probably makes no sense, but its how i found the confortable in-between of chugging and playing chords. If this somehow did make sense, i hope it helps!
That actually sounds really cool mate 😃👍 I obviously can't visualise it without trying it - but sounds interesting. Good on ya for doing your own thing mate 😎👍
The hat. The glasses. The beard. The humour. The informative content. You deserve a million subscribers. Don’t stop till you get there! Some collabs/interviews with bigger RUclipsrs would be great. I came to you from HP42. Have you been on his channel? Btw. The great thing about an 8-string guitar is that it burns for ages. And you’ve prevented someone from Djenting. Just kidding, metalheads. 😂
@ Seriously. Life, and RUclips, needs characters like you with real personality. I’ve noticed from other types of content how it can be really beneficial to subscriber numbers to appear on other, bigger channels. No need to sell out. Just find some folk you respect to make some great content with.
@@damianrf6309 Good thinking mate! I have made pals with some of the bigger channels now. Just need to convince em to slum it with me for a bit 😜 Thanks again mate! 🙏
@@stevecassidyguitar Great news! Interview Chris Buck about his signature guitar. ;-) I think legitimate content like that is a good way to grow. Both parties benefit.
Oh FFS Steve! How come after just seeing your review, I'm convinced that I need 8-string monster in my life more than anything else...? You're too good at what you do brother! :D
I'm so sorry mate! 😂 That was definitely not my intention. Just sharing my awkward experience of trying something very different for the first time. It's a few weeks later now - I still suck at it 😂 But I've not spent enough time with it to be fair 😜
I loved my 7 and 8 stringers Ibanezzes and Harley Bentons. I think most of us had this crazy experience changing to these monstrous fretboards and scale lenghts. Nowadays i play a 30 inch baritone six stringer which is kinda funny because in front of it there stands my squier mustang with 24 inch scale lenght. Changing from the baritone to the mutsang feels like playing a toys toy 🙂
Ha! I know what you mean. When I was teaching more, I used to have a Bass lesson using my 5 string, followed by a Ukulele lesson - It always took at least a few mins to re-adapt 😂👍
Wow 😮, it took me by surprise that Steve. I’d be lost on that beast, although I imagine if your into that stuff it’s a good guitar! Looks lovely too, anyway another great installation Steve. I hope your computer issues are remedied soon mate 😊
This was a very funny video mate. I think a lot of us here watching you were in the same boat. Ie ‘What do ya do with that?’ 🤭. Very good content. Well done again 👏
@ haha I’d be surprised if you were man tbh I’m still baffled haha. Btw great content lately. You changing it up recently (on purpose or not haha) has worked. And btw don’t get too caught up in the whole RUclipsr Standard audio and visual etc - I’m sure many woukd agree when I say we tune in for you and how you conduct yourself etc etc. Your personality and your originality. There are many channels out there with state of the art sound and visual etc but they don’t got what you got - the originality 👏👏👏. So, please keep it up with the ‘Weclome’ and perhaps you might even add ‘There ain’t no juice about this house’? 🤭😎 Well done again man
@@thelolguy007 Thank ya so much mate! You're far too kind 😀🙏 Glad you spotted the variety. I was starting to become the Budget HSS strat guy 😂🙈 (Still plenty of that to come though). Thanks again!
Thanks for the review! Next month I'll get my Christmas bonus and I'll buy the 7 and 8 String version of this guitar. Maybe the 6 String, too if I can continue not smoking. They seem to be solid guitars for a decent price and the finish is outright gorgeous. They are an absolute steal at this price. I also plan on upgrading them in the long run with better nuts und locking tuners + new pickups. I have EMG 81/85 laying around for the 6 String and I might go for DiMarzio Crunch Lab/Liquifire for the 7 and Fishman Fluence for the 8. Even with the upgrades they're way cheaper than a comparable guitar from any other brand.
Was NOT expecting that, thought you’d bought a bass for a moment!! They do screw with your eyes for a bit They can be fun, but I just couldn’t get on with it (RG8) Looking forward to seeing your progression on this, dude
It's almost a bass 😂👍 I thought people might have been expecting the ST Modern (non-plus) 😜 I definitely need to spend more time with it - I still don't know what I'm doing, but that's part of the fun 😜👍 Cheers mate! 😀🙏
i've been using a Gretsch 29.4" baritone in Drop F# for the last 3-4 months, it's been great, admittedly an easier transition from 6 strings, I've just received a 7 string Ibanez RGIXL7 a 27" seven string which is in Drop G, an 8 is even more of a switch, what i've found helps is looking at Drop Tunings on the lower strings, you can get more easily frettable chord extensions if needs be, and can seem more logical than having to stretch even more to do so, and maybe even open tunings as well this is crazy value specs/price in any case
Always fancied one of the Gretsch Baritones - I like how they don't look too metal 😎👌 I've not got as far as spotting anything logical on this one yet 😂👍 But I've still not spent enough time with it tbf 🙈 But yeah.. I reckon it's probably a good deal too
I just subscribed to follow your progress with the 8 string 😎 I just recently purchased an Ibanez RG8. I'm currently used to 7 string which took practice from the feel of the 6 string. I'm also starting my own journey with the 8 string so I'm excited to travel with you. Keep us updated brother and I appreciate your content
Cheers mate! 😀🙏 I hope your 8 string journey is going better than mines - I've made very little progress 😂🙈 Also, just to let you know it will probably be a long time before I've got an 8 string update, unfortunately - like well into next year - I'm months behind with vids now 😬🙈
@@stevecassidyguitar no worries at all... Good progress takes time no matter what the task is. So far for myself navigating the new finger patterns isn't bad.. I'm primarily a hard rock player but adding some atmosphere with extended chords is pretty neat and satisfying. The 8 string gives me a slight more range on the bottom so I've noticed I now sometimes resolve my chords differently which let's me explore different angles of playing. Wishing you and your students much success with the new tools 🤘😝🤘
you handled the low notes well. i don't usually tune down to f#1, i prefer a nice light g1 personally, but if you're planning on dropping it to e1 and a1 you are going to need a string tension calculator to choose some heavier gauges even with the fanned scale. i would also consider adding more fret markers below the stock ones so you can tell what strings you're playing. i exclusively play 7 strings and still get lost in the mess of wire at times
Ah! That's a great idea with the fret markers! 😀👍 I actually have a set of fret look ones I can chuck on - cheers 👍 I do want to keep the overall tension kinda similar as/is. You're right the lowest e1 & a1 are a bit floppy atm. I've got It comes stock with 9-65. But I got a 10-74 set, So i'm just gonna replace the bottom 2 strings and hope for the best 😜👍
@@stevecassidyguitar i should've elaborated that you need a good tension to keep the tuning stable, a 90 would work better for that e1 on that scale length and maybe around a 68 for a1. it's not a necessity to go super heavy if you can work a tuner, you'll be fine with the heavier set you already have if you remember to check if the tuning's drifted every couple days or so
Cheers mate! That's just my Guitar storage dining room on the east wing 😁 But yeah this kid is a great player - I've learned a lot over the years to try to leave my ego at the door. I'm always learning stuff from my pupils. Which could be interpreted as "I suck at my job" 😂👍
Cheers mate! 😃🙏 I'd been working out 💪 😜 The Harley Benton 446 is kinda close to a 6 string version. There's a 7 string version that's the same as the 8 string too. 😃 Had to Google the Sontarans - I can see it 😂👍
Thank you for making me feel so weclome. This was really interesting to see how you handle it , I hope that student has paid you more than £211 in tuition fees , or this was really daft. I couldn't get on with these either which is why most of my guitars are baritones not >6 string stuff. It's just quite a bit more to remember as you'll discover as you go. Have fun.
Oh yeah without a doubt! I've been teaching this pupil since he was 8 years old, he must be 17 now - Great player too! I'm not taking the credit, he practices lots of other stuff off his own back. Those guys are always become the best players 😀👍 To be fair, It's too easy for me to find an excuse to get another guitar 🙈 But I was a bit curious about the 8 string stuff too. Cheers mate! 😀🙏
Hi Steve, I tried a seven string job once and very quickly put it back on the shop wall. When I was gigging our bassist played a five string bass and even that scrambled my brain a little. Every sound check he used to ask me to play a few notes so he could go out front and hear it and every time I (insert suitable word!!) it up! I wouldn't have a clue where to even start with eight.
Ha! Yeah several years ago, I actually did have a 7 string for a bout 2 weeks, (think it was a Dean) probably played it for a grand total of 20mins and sold it 😂. I do have a 5 string sire bass though - I spent a lot of time with that so that doesn't throw me as much, but it's still pretty rare to actually use the extra low notes. A bit like the the dusty end of the guitar 😜
The radius is not 12", it is 350mm (around 13.75") going off of Thomann - However I think it may be misrepresented on the site, 13.75" is quite round for an 8-string. I think this is probably closer to 15.75" (400mm) which would fit!
Had the RB458 in the straight Single scale Version. I also Tried the low strings tunes to A and E to accompany myself with bass Tones, but i didn't get along with the concept of 8/7-Strings.
I just tried a 7 string for the first time in a guitar center, its wild how even that one extra string kind of destroys your muscle memory, I can only imagine the eight string.
I think it's great that a teacher will go to these lengths to help a student. The student obviously has a passion for the type of music that Sleep Token play and shoehorning him into something else, might kill his desire to learn guitar. That's fantastic. If anyone comes for lessons with a harp, I think you should recommend they look elsewhere, although Thomann do sell harps.
Cheers mate! 😀🙏 Although it might also be a case of... I can always find an excuse to get another guitar 😜 But seriously, yeah, I did want to make the lesson time more effective for both of us, but I was also a bit curious about the 8 string stuff after seeing the students guitar 😁 He's already a great player and waaaay ahead of me with the 8 string stuff 😂👍
😂👍 I'll have to keep this one until July next year at least tho 😬 Apologies on the St Modern BTW - It's still got your name on it - but I'm unbelievably swamped atm. Never been busier 🤯
You didn't mention the fretboard radius....did it suit you better than other HBs?😇😉 Seriously though, I would love a follow-up video on how you got on with it in the future.🤘 Looks cool, but 6 strings is enough for me. A very lucky student to have such a willing teacher. Much respect to you.🏅👍
I actually made an error 😬 I'd said it was a 12" radius, but someone commented and corrected me - it's flatter - my bad 😬 Will hopefully get a follow up next year once I've figured out how to "Chug" or something 😂🤷♂️ Thank ya as always mate! 😀🙏
I think I have seen them before on Etsy or something 😁👍 I know most people won't get the reference. It's from a Scottish comedy TV series called "Still Game" a bit of Del Boy Schtick in that particular episode. Apologies If you already knew and I over explained 😬👍
@stevecassidyguitar no apologies required, it's just amusing. Loving your channel by the way and I hope it goes from strength to strength. Found it via the John Robson channel. All the best.
I live in a block of flats where the fourth floor is labelled as the 'forth floor', it's in London so definitely nothing to do with the firth of forth in Scotland!
I'll stick to another creature with eight "arms" in this case - very tasty when lightly seasoned, coated, and deep fried! Can't even bring myself to look at a five-string bass....
🤣😂 Mental! But you know what... I'll bet that does happen these days. Kids who are into bands and music like that - It would be totally pointless to get a strat 😂 It's practically a completely different instrument and approach
Do like a good fan fret but 8 strings... nah not for me. If I wanted to sound like a bass I'd play a bass ;) Think it was part of the reason i got shut of my baritone in the end ;) You can still play the bugger though sir :) Crackin vid as ever, good luck with it sir :)
😂👍 Great point! Funny thing is - the pupil I'm working with (reason I got the 8 string) is also using a Quad Cortex and doing other drop tunings on that - Just when I thought I could keep up! 😂🙈
Nice! 😀👍 I think less strings is the smart way to go 🤓👍 Although you could glue 3 of them together and have a 9 string abomination... 🤔 and no friends 😂
Not intentionally - But tbf I don't have like a proper high gain preset. I probably need to make some sort of Mesa or 5150-esque preset for this kinda stuff. My "high gain" stuff is a Vox type amp with 2 stacked overdrives 😂🙈
Oh no - I definitely won't be changing the pickups. My ears can't tell the difference between what's good and not, when it comes to high gain, high output kinda sounds anyway 😂👍
I wouldn't change the pickups either... because 8 poles are hard to find , the pitch between poles varies without enough explanation, and they're more expensive than the guitar.
Just saw Tony Levin playing the Chapman Stick..the bass side anyway...his backup players were Steve Vai Adrian Bellow and Danny Carey...Beat... but i liked your demo too🫡
@michaelbelliveau8755 oh you actually saw tony Levin proper live!? 😃 Nice one mate! Tommy Emmanuel too! I've seen him live a few times - incredible! Only 6 strings tho? What a wuss 🙄🫤 😜
Loved how "fish out of water" you were with this one! Was it a "naked in front of the audience" thing? Not for me, but you showed it can do more than just grunt. Well done!
Cheers mate! 😂👍 As I don't know how to "metal", I just had to "Blues Guy" 😂 Was being mindful of not just ignoring the 2 bottom strings though - which was very tempting - play it safe! 😜
Steve, I tip my hat to you. That’s dedication to music education when you buy a guitar and commit to learning to Djent with your student who likes Sleep Token. So what kind of guitar does he have? Curious how your HB stacks up, lol. You horrified the metal heads by playing funk on this guitar, lol. 🤣🤘🏻🎸 I would be curious to try a seven string acoustic (they exist!) or electric, but 8 and 9 strings are just weird to me. I know people make some epic music with them, but I don’t see why the extra strings are needed when it’s possible to do the same thing on a guitar with 6 strings. I regularly use my Low E (or whatever it’s tuned to) as a drone string. Maybe you can help us understand the deal as you go through the process. I feel sorry that you’ll have to restring that monstrosity, but it’s really cool that you’re going out of your lane here. Music is about exploring and trying new things keeps it from getting stale. Maybe you’ll join the next new Djent band!
Thank ya so much Marsha! 😀🙏 My Pupil has a Strandberg and an Ormsby. He recently got another 8 string Ibby single cut too 😂🙈 So I had no choice (It's too easy to find excuses to buy guitars sometimes 😜). As for how the HB stacks up - it's all so alien to me, I find it difficult to tell. I did get to try a 7 string Furch acoustic at 42Gear Street - that was very cool too 😎👍
You know what I'd do with an 8 string guitar ?, take two strings off and make it a 6 string !!. Seriously cool looking guitar and you were playing some cool stuff once you got used to it 👍😃
My take: treat like going on holiday to a place with different weather, different language and different ways of doing things. Have fun with it. Explore it without judgement - get emotional reactions out of the way. If some want to chug and solo n scream with it well ... ?
That's a great mindset mate - love it! 😎👌 I do have to do the chuggy chuggs for the lessons currently - Not really my thing, but I have to admit it's still fun 😀👍
Had that in a seven string version and the leads wouldn’t go into the jack socket,sent it back and was still waiting on a replacement 7 months. Still wasn’t available so got my money back, I don’t know why the wait was so long👎👎👎
Yeeesh! That sux 👎👎. This one isn't perfect either, had a wee paint chip on the headstock and some finish imperfections, I didn't notice until the next day. It's workable though and pretty much just a teaching aid for now 👍
I've setup a couple of Bass guitars for a friend recently and I was playing it like a guitar and damn it was odd. I can only hope he doesn't go for one of these .. I'll have to grow some extra long fingers 🤣
Things to do with an 8 string guitar: . Play happy birthday on the thinnest string . Play the fattest string 010011000111000011110001110011010 . Record an entire album of 60 minutes with just an f# minor open chord . Detune the guitar to be extra edgy and jazzy and progressive. Doesn't need to sound good either. . Do what every reasonable 8 string guitar player would do: tune the entire guitar to the same f# note and strum away. Extra points if you use a slider. . Shave.
@jumpingman8160 🤣👍 Funny you should mention... Straight after the unboxing and test we watched batteries not included 😎👌 A memory I'll cherish for weeks 🤩
"What do you do on an 8 string guitar" get Carpal Tunnel lmao playing a 7 string with a fairy wide neck was too much for me after a while. Still don't have a 5 string bass for similar reasons. Seriously though, look into the Boss music in Sonic Frontiers which is played in a stupid low tuning, Undefeatable is actually incredible, I play the riff on bass.
I can totally see that - I don't think I could play something like this for a gig - not just because it would be completely unsuitable 😂 but 2-3 hours on that would be a killer for the wrist I reckon. Maybe I just need to address my "technique" 😜
@ I love it. Just a fun thing to have. And it means I get to pretend to be Bob Smith from the Cure in my garage or spare room. With less hair and lipstick!!
Play slide on the bottom two and normal stuff on the others😅😅😅😅😅. Such a flat neck needs a tone bar😂😂😂😂Of course, Steve, the biggest problem will be finding a gig bag😂
That doesn't sound complicated at all 😂👍 Luckily.... The Thomann Deluxe Electric Gig Bag I already had fit like a glove. I love those gig bags - only like £25, has 20mm padding and fit's every solid body I've thrown at it (or in it) 😜
Step one , take off two strings or alternatively get yourself down to the gym and start working on those hand, arm and finger muscles so you can master those bar chords. In your case however, bearing in mind your own statements about your small hands, just take off two strings.
"what am I even gonna do with this?"
Caveman chugs on the open low F# string while downtuned as low as physically possible. Ignore the 7 other strings
😂😂😂😂👍
Nice one mate! Almost sounds manageable 😁👍
Sleeptoken are honestly the most creative band that exists imho. The structure and lyricism is just incredible
I've heard a good few songs now.
It's not really my kind of thing, but I don't hate it - definitely some clever stuff going on there - great playing and production too 😎👍
"Weclome" 😂 You got me, I'm in!
Woohoo! 🥳
I play a 7 in the studio, what i do is tune it to an open C minor 7th with the first three strings as a powerchord. I use those Korn signature strings.
Im aware this is not traditional in any sense, im not a guitarist by any means, i make industrial music, but its really fun for quick riffing.
The open top strings mean you can play pretty much any in scale note on the bottom three strings and the top ones add a fancy chord extension when they ring out
Im explaining this in my non-guitar player speak so it probably makes no sense, but its how i found the confortable in-between of chugging and playing chords.
If this somehow did make sense, i hope it helps!
That actually sounds really cool mate 😃👍
I obviously can't visualise it without trying it - but sounds interesting. Good on ya for doing your own thing mate 😎👍
Love it ! 😂 getting a weird guitar just because...lol i love harley bentons..i have 3...interesting video..fun.
Cheers mate! It's a "teaching aid" 😁
It's way too easy to find excuses to buy weird guitars 😂
The hat. The glasses. The beard. The humour. The informative content. You deserve a million subscribers.
Don’t stop till you get there!
Some collabs/interviews with bigger RUclipsrs would be great.
I came to you from HP42. Have you been on his channel?
Btw. The great thing about an 8-string guitar is that it burns for ages. And you’ve prevented someone from Djenting.
Just kidding, metalheads. 😂
Aw mate! you're too kind and you've just made my day! 😀🙏
Thank yoooouuu!
@ Seriously. Life, and RUclips, needs characters like you with real personality.
I’ve noticed from other types of content how it can be really beneficial to subscriber numbers to appear on other, bigger channels. No need to sell out. Just find some folk you respect to make some great content with.
@@damianrf6309 Good thinking mate! I have made pals with some of the bigger channels now. Just need to convince em to slum it with me for a bit 😜
Thanks again mate! 🙏
@@stevecassidyguitar Great news! Interview Chris Buck about his signature guitar. ;-) I think legitimate content like that is a good way to grow. Both parties benefit.
Oh FFS Steve! How come after just seeing your review, I'm convinced that I need 8-string monster in my life more than anything else...? You're too good at what you do brother! :D
I'm so sorry mate! 😂 That was definitely not my intention. Just sharing my awkward experience of trying something very different for the first time. It's a few weeks later now - I still suck at it 😂 But I've not spent enough time with it to be fair 😜
I loved my 7 and 8 stringers Ibanezzes and Harley Bentons. I think most of us had this crazy experience changing to these monstrous fretboards and scale lenghts. Nowadays i play a 30 inch baritone six stringer which is kinda funny because in front of it there stands my squier mustang with 24 inch scale lenght. Changing from the baritone to the mutsang feels like playing a toys toy 🙂
Ha! I know what you mean. When I was teaching more, I used to have a Bass lesson using my 5 string, followed by a Ukulele lesson - It always took at least a few mins to re-adapt 😂👍
Crazy guitar. Love the color! It seems one would need gigantic hands to play it.
More fingers would be "handy" too 😂👍
Wow 😮, it took me by surprise that Steve. I’d be lost on that beast, although I imagine if your into that stuff it’s a good guitar! Looks lovely too, anyway another great installation Steve. I hope your computer issues are remedied soon mate 😊
Thank ya kindly mate! 😀🙏
I think even I was expecting the ST Modern (non plus) 😂
PC issues still ongoing but thanks again for the support mate 🙏
This was a very funny video mate. I think a lot of us here watching you were in the same boat. Ie ‘What do ya do with that?’ 🤭. Very good content. Well done again 👏
Cheers mate! 😀🙏 It's now a couple of months later - I'm not much further forward with it to be honest 😂
@ haha I’d be surprised if you were man tbh I’m still baffled haha. Btw great content lately. You changing it up recently (on purpose or not haha) has worked. And btw don’t get too caught up in the whole RUclipsr Standard audio and visual etc - I’m sure many woukd agree when I say we tune in for you and how you conduct yourself etc etc. Your personality and your originality. There are many channels out there with state of the art sound and visual etc but they don’t got what you got - the originality 👏👏👏. So, please keep it up with the ‘Weclome’ and perhaps you might even add ‘There ain’t no juice about this house’? 🤭😎 Well done again man
@@thelolguy007 Thank ya so much mate! You're far too kind 😀🙏
Glad you spotted the variety. I was starting to become the Budget HSS strat guy 😂🙈 (Still plenty of that to come though).
Thanks again!
I want the 7 string version, cool vid...
Cheers mate! 😀🙏 I reckon you deserve a 7 string - You've been good all year! 😀👍
I was not expecting THAT!! 🤣🤣🤣
I think even I was expecting the new ST Modern (non plus) 😂👍
@@stevecassidyguitar 😂
Thanks for the review!
Next month I'll get my Christmas bonus and I'll buy the 7 and 8 String version of this guitar. Maybe the 6 String, too if I can continue not smoking.
They seem to be solid guitars for a decent price and the finish is outright gorgeous. They are an absolute steal at this price. I also plan on upgrading them in the long run with better nuts und locking tuners + new pickups. I have EMG 81/85 laying around for the 6 String and I might go for DiMarzio Crunch Lab/Liquifire for the 7 and Fishman Fluence for the 8. Even with the upgrades they're way cheaper than a comparable guitar from any other brand.
Nice! That'll be an awesome wee army of axes! 😎👌
Was NOT expecting that, thought you’d bought a bass for a moment!!
They do screw with your eyes for a bit
They can be fun, but I just couldn’t get on with it (RG8)
Looking forward to seeing your progression on this, dude
It's almost a bass 😂👍
I thought people might have been expecting the ST Modern (non-plus) 😜
I definitely need to spend more time with it - I still don't know what I'm doing, but that's part of the fun 😜👍
Cheers mate! 😀🙏
@ best of luck
If anyone can make use of one, it’s definitely you
thank god for Steve in these dark times ;_; the real mark of a great teacher is willingness to learn from a student
Thanks for watching! 😊🙏
Forget the guitar we come here for you . And you always deliver ❤
Aw mate!!! You're the best! Thank ya so much 😀🙏
i've been using a Gretsch 29.4" baritone in Drop F# for the last 3-4 months, it's been great, admittedly an easier transition from 6 strings, I've just received a 7 string Ibanez RGIXL7 a 27" seven string which is in Drop G, an 8 is even more of a switch,
what i've found helps is looking at Drop Tunings on the lower strings, you can get more easily frettable chord extensions if needs be, and can seem more logical than having to stretch even more to do so, and maybe even open tunings as well
this is crazy value specs/price in any case
Always fancied one of the Gretsch Baritones - I like how they don't look too metal 😎👌
I've not got as far as spotting anything logical on this one yet 😂👍
But I've still not spent enough time with it tbf 🙈
But yeah.. I reckon it's probably a good deal too
I just subscribed to follow your progress with the 8 string 😎 I just recently purchased an Ibanez RG8. I'm currently used to 7 string which took practice from the feel of the 6 string. I'm also starting my own journey with the 8 string so I'm excited to travel with you. Keep us updated brother and I appreciate your content
Cheers mate! 😀🙏 I hope your 8 string journey is going better than mines - I've made very little progress 😂🙈
Also, just to let you know it will probably be a long time before I've got an 8 string update, unfortunately - like well into next year - I'm months behind with vids now 😬🙈
@@stevecassidyguitar no worries at all... Good progress takes time no matter what the task is. So far for myself navigating the new finger patterns isn't bad.. I'm primarily a hard rock player but adding some atmosphere with extended chords is pretty neat and satisfying. The 8 string gives me a slight more range on the bottom so I've noticed I now sometimes resolve my chords differently which let's me explore different angles of playing. Wishing you and your students much success with the new tools 🤘😝🤘
you handled the low notes well. i don't usually tune down to f#1, i prefer a nice light g1 personally, but if you're planning on dropping it to e1 and a1 you are going to need a string tension calculator to choose some heavier gauges even with the fanned scale. i would also consider adding more fret markers below the stock ones so you can tell what strings you're playing. i exclusively play 7 strings and still get lost in the mess of wire at times
Ah! That's a great idea with the fret markers! 😀👍
I actually have a set of fret look ones I can chuck on - cheers 👍
I do want to keep the overall tension kinda similar as/is. You're right the lowest e1 & a1 are a bit floppy atm. I've got It comes stock with 9-65. But I got a 10-74 set, So i'm just gonna replace the bottom 2 strings and hope for the best 😜👍
@@stevecassidyguitar i should've elaborated that you need a good tension to keep the tuning stable, a 90 would work better for that e1 on that scale length and maybe around a 68 for a1. it's not a necessity to go super heavy if you can work a tuner, you'll be fine with the heavier set you already have if you remember to check if the tuning's drifted every couple days or so
@@Hyperlink1337 Cheers mate _I'll try out what I've got here, can always go heavier if needs be - Cheers 😀👍
Impressive that the student is helping the teacher...wish I had you!
That is an impressive dining room...
Cheers mate! That's just my Guitar storage dining room on the east wing 😁
But yeah this kid is a great player - I've learned a lot over the years to try to leave my ego at the door. I'm always learning stuff from my pupils. Which could be interpreted as "I suck at my job" 😂👍
Can an 8 string blues?? Apparently really well surprisingly
Ha! Cheers mate 😃🙏I thought about having "blues hack plays an 8 string" as the title 😂
The body looks nice. Wouldn't mind a 6 string version of it. The neck reminds me of the necks on the Sontarans in Dr Who.
Cheers mate! 😃🙏 I'd been working out 💪
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The Harley Benton 446 is kinda close to a 6 string version.
There's a 7 string version that's the same as the 8 string too. 😃
Had to Google the Sontarans - I can see it 😂👍
8 string, 4 octaves. there is a lot of notes to choose there
😂 Too many imo. 8 string guitars should come with extra fingers
It looks very cool but I would sound a complete mess on that thing 😂
As did I 😂👍
A multiscale AND 8 string guitar... UFF!!! makes me dizzy just thinking about playing such a thing 😵💫
Looks pretty nice for the money though 👍
Ha! Cheers mate! I'm still struggling with it too 😂🙈
Steve on an 8 string guitar, you simply pick 6 spaces you feel comfortable with and leave the other 2 empty
I'm most comfortable with the standard 6 string part 😂👍
Or pull a Keith Richards and remove the unneeded strings?
@@SomeReallyUniqueName The less strings the better - Keef is onto something 😁👍
Ignore the fan & you can play, but the too many strings I can't help you with....
This guitar is my one and only fan 😁👍
But yeah, I'd argue 6 strings is too many - and Keef agrees! 😜
Thank you for making me feel so weclome. This was really interesting to see how you handle it , I hope that student has paid you more than £211 in tuition fees , or this was really daft.
I couldn't get on with these either which is why most of my guitars are baritones not >6 string stuff. It's just quite a bit more to remember as you'll discover as you go. Have fun.
Oh yeah without a doubt! I've been teaching this pupil since he was 8 years old, he must be 17 now - Great player too!
I'm not taking the credit, he practices lots of other stuff off his own back. Those guys are always become the best players 😀👍
To be fair, It's too easy for me to find an excuse to get another guitar 🙈 But I was a bit curious about the 8 string stuff too.
Cheers mate! 😀🙏
Hi Steve, I tried a seven string job once and very quickly put it back on the shop wall. When I was gigging our bassist played a five string bass and even that scrambled my brain a little. Every sound check he used to ask me to play a few notes so he could go out front and hear it and every time I (insert suitable word!!) it up! I wouldn't have a clue where to even start with eight.
Ha! Yeah several years ago, I actually did have a 7 string for a bout 2 weeks, (think it was a Dean) probably played it for a grand total of 20mins and sold it 😂.
I do have a 5 string sire bass though - I spent a lot of time with that so that doesn't throw me as much, but it's still pretty rare to actually use the extra low notes. A bit like the the dusty end of the guitar 😜
The radius is not 12", it is 350mm (around 13.75") going off of Thomann - However I think it may be misrepresented on the site, 13.75" is quite round for an 8-string. I think this is probably closer to 15.75" (400mm) which would fit!
Whoops my bad! Apologies 😬 Thanks for pointing that out 👍
12" always feels too flat for me as/is anyway 😂
Had the RB458 in the straight Single scale Version. I also Tried the low strings tunes to A and E to accompany myself with bass Tones, but i didn't get along with the concept of 8/7-Strings.
I hear ya mate - I still can't get it 😂🙈
I just tried a 7 string for the first time in a guitar center, its wild how even that one extra string kind of destroys your muscle memory, I can only imagine the eight string.
7 strings are for weaklings! 🧐
I can say that now I'm a proper 8 string gang member 😎👌
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Jokes of course 😁
I'm still struggling with 6 strings 😂👍
@stevecassidyguitar aren't we all
this looks cool. thanks for sharing.
Cheers mate! 😀🙏 I think it's cool too 😎👍
Nut still pretty clueless what to do with it 🙈
"There are too many strings, I don't know what to do!" Haha. :P
I say the same thing with 6 strings too 😂👍
I think it's great that a teacher will go to these lengths to help a student. The student obviously has a passion for the type of music that Sleep Token play and shoehorning him into something else, might kill his desire to learn guitar. That's fantastic. If anyone comes for lessons with a harp, I think you should recommend they look elsewhere, although Thomann do sell harps.
Cheers mate! 😀🙏 Although it might also be a case of... I can always find an excuse to get another guitar 😜
But seriously, yeah, I did want to make the lesson time more effective for both of us, but I was also a bit curious about the 8 string stuff after seeing the students guitar 😁
He's already a great player and waaaay ahead of me with the 8 string stuff 😂👍
I'm actually game to buy this off you too 😂😂😂 this is right up my street
Scratch that at £211 I'd be as well getting a new one.
😂👍 I'll have to keep this one until July next year at least tho 😬
Apologies on the St Modern BTW - It's still got your name on it - but I'm unbelievably swamped atm. Never been busier 🤯
You didn't mention the fretboard radius....did it suit you better than other HBs?😇😉 Seriously though, I would love a follow-up video on how you got on with it in the future.🤘 Looks cool, but 6 strings is enough for me. A very lucky student to have such a willing teacher. Much respect to you.🏅👍
I actually made an error 😬 I'd said it was a 12" radius, but someone commented and corrected me - it's flatter - my bad 😬
Will hopefully get a follow up next year once I've figured out how to "Chug" or something 😂🤷♂️
Thank ya as always mate! 😀🙏
Where do I get the 'Weclome' door mat?
I think I have seen them before on Etsy or something 😁👍
I know most people won't get the reference. It's from a Scottish comedy TV series called "Still Game" a bit of Del Boy Schtick in that particular episode.
Apologies If you already knew and I over explained 😬👍
@stevecassidyguitar no apologies required, it's just amusing. Loving your channel by the way and I hope it goes from strength to strength. Found it via the John Robson channel. All the best.
I live in a block of flats where the fourth floor is labelled as the 'forth floor', it's in London so definitely nothing to do with the firth of forth in Scotland!
@@djw8133 Thank ya so much mate! 😀🙏 Thanks to Big John too - He's always so generous with the shout outs 😎👍
I'll stick to another creature with eight "arms" in this case - very tasty when lightly seasoned, coated, and deep fried! Can't even bring myself to look at a five-string bass....
Yyeeesh 😬 Not for me thanks 👍 Different strokes for different folks 🤷♂️
I do like a 5 string bass though 😎👍
"I've no idea what I'm doing"
Proceeds to write the equivalent of several Deathcore, Metalcore and Post Hardcore songs plus a funky jam 😂
Ha! Completely unintentionally - cheers mate 😂🙏
Imagine getting this thing as your first guitar for Christmas😀
🤣😂 Mental!
But you know what... I'll bet that does happen these days.
Kids who are into bands and music like that - It would be totally pointless to get a strat 😂
It's practically a completely different instrument and approach
Do like a good fan fret but 8 strings... nah not for me.
If I wanted to sound like a bass I'd play a bass ;)
Think it was part of the reason i got shut of my baritone in the end ;)
You can still play the bugger though sir :)
Crackin vid as ever, good luck with it sir :)
Cheers mate! 😀🙏
8 strings still isn't for me either 😂 but I agree with ya, can definitely see the appeal of the fan fret 😎👍
What do I do with an 8 string? Swap it for a Digitech Drop maybe?
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Great point! Funny thing is - the pupil I'm working with (reason I got the 8 string) is also using a Quad Cortex and doing other drop tunings on that - Just when I thought I could keep up! 😂🙈
I've been thinking of getting or making a 3 string cigar box (with a resonator) 🤠
Nice! 😀👍
I think less strings is the smart way to go 🤓👍
Although you could glue 3 of them together and have a 9 string abomination... 🤔 and no friends 😂
Looks great man!
Cheers mate! 😀🙏
The finish/colour is my favourite part 🤩👍
Very cool of you amigo!
Cheers mate! 😀🙏
Very Cool, Thankyou Steve. WOW.... Unexpected ..... Yes cut 2..... or 3 (Go Keef) strings off ..... Enjoy ...... Cheers
Ha! Cheers mate 😀🙏
I think Keef has the right idea - the less strings the better! (Go Formby!) 😜
Sounding a bit like Jack White when you put the drive on 😎
Not intentionally - But tbf I don't have like a proper high gain preset. I probably need to make some sort of Mesa or 5150-esque preset for this kinda stuff.
My "high gain" stuff is a Vox type amp with 2 stacked overdrives 😂🙈
Wouldn’t change pickups unless your going to have it as a main Guitar
Oh no - I definitely won't be changing the pickups. My ears can't tell the difference between what's good and not, when it comes to high gain, high output kinda sounds anyway 😂👍
I wouldn't change the pickups either... because 8 poles are hard to find , the pitch between poles varies without enough explanation, and they're more expensive than the guitar.
Just saw Tony Levin playing the Chapman Stick..the bass side anyway...his backup players were Steve Vai Adrian Bellow and Danny Carey...Beat... but i liked your demo too🫡
C'mon! ... I can't compete with that! 😂 I can't even play an E chord here ! 😂
@stevecassidyguitar the night after we saw Tommy Emmanuel..but he only had six strings..what a week😃
@michaelbelliveau8755 oh you actually saw tony Levin proper live!? 😃
Nice one mate!
Tommy Emmanuel too!
I've seen him live a few times - incredible!
Only 6 strings tho?
What a wuss 🙄🫤
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Far too many strings, i would classify that as a guitar shaped harp. best of luck with it. We'll see it on the next Coconut Grove video.🤣🤣🤣
Guitarp? 🤷♂️
That would be so funny, to just pull that beast out the gig bag at the next wedding gig 😂
and now... Brown eyed girl... 🤣
Haha definitely unexpected on this channel but rock n roll!
9 string next week of course 😜
Cheers mate 😁👍
That Funk Noodle was.... Funky AF 😎
Ha! Cheers mate 😀🙏
I lost the timing a bit a couple of times - I'm just gonna blame that on the 8 string though - along with every other mistake 😂👍
Loved how "fish out of water" you were with this one! Was it a "naked in front of the audience" thing? Not for me, but you showed it can do more than just grunt. Well done!
Cheers mate! 😂👍
As I don't know how to "metal", I just had to "Blues Guy" 😂 Was being mindful of not just ignoring the 2 bottom strings though - which was very tempting - play it safe! 😜
Sounds like a tam o'shanter on speed. Wild, warm and woolly.
Bang on what I was going for! 😂👌
Woah - if they do that with a chunky ‘U’ shape neck, I’m in! 😂
Wowza! You must have shovel hands mate! 😅👍
@@stevecassidyguitar😂 I’m a skinny neck guy - can’t imagine even holding that one, never mind playing it!
@@derekclacton I never thought I'd have one either 😂 I probably still wouldn't if i didn't "need" it as a teaching aid 😜
@ Well, that’s certainly going the extra mile, or two strings! 👍
“Oh, that’s not right…” - me, on a six string guitar
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Yup I can relate to that one too 😁👍
I can only count to six (strings)…ain’t that Gr8!!!
6 is plenty 😂👍
It`s called `flip flop blue chameleon` but to me it looks like green into blue, thats the point!
It looks green into purple in real life - No Blue in sight 🤷♂️
Dude, now I need to buy one
You totally deserve one mate! 😂👍
Dang, Sleep Token looks huge!!!
I'm kinda scared of them 😬
Well mate,, if it doesn't work out, you can always take her out to St Andrews and go surfing 😅😁👏
Ha! 😂👌 Funny you should mention - I'm going to St Andrews tomorrow 🎸🏄♂️
Steve, I tip my hat to you. That’s dedication to music education when you buy a guitar and commit to learning to Djent with your student who likes Sleep Token. So what kind of guitar does he have? Curious how your HB stacks up, lol.
You horrified the metal heads by playing funk on this guitar, lol. 🤣🤘🏻🎸
I would be curious to try a seven string acoustic (they exist!) or electric, but 8 and 9 strings are just weird to me. I know people make some epic music with them, but I don’t see why the extra strings are needed when it’s possible to do the same thing on a guitar with 6 strings. I regularly use my Low E (or whatever it’s tuned to) as a drone string. Maybe you can help us understand the deal as you go through the process. I feel sorry that you’ll have to restring that monstrosity, but it’s really cool that you’re going out of your lane here. Music is about exploring and trying new things keeps it from getting stale. Maybe you’ll join the next new Djent band!
Thank ya so much Marsha! 😀🙏
My Pupil has a Strandberg and an Ormsby. He recently got another 8 string Ibby single cut too 😂🙈
So I had no choice (It's too easy to find excuses to buy guitars sometimes 😜).
As for how the HB stacks up - it's all so alien to me, I find it difficult to tell.
I did get to try a 7 string Furch acoustic at 42Gear Street - that was very cool too 😎👍
I wouldn't call sleeptoken djent. Defo heavy but not djent
@@Cpmnk I don't know what to call them, all I know is I'm kinda scared of em 😂👍
Awesome video Steve have a great weekend also I have a fungal infection in my head ❤😢
Oh no! 😬 Very sorry to hear that! I hope you're on the mend soon mate 🤞
Thanks I did went to the emergency doctor on Friday then we went to the pharmacy to get the cream for the head
You know what I'd do with an 8 string guitar ?, take two strings off and make it a 6 string !!. Seriously cool looking guitar and you were playing some cool stuff once you got used to it 👍😃
Ha! Sounds like a smart move 😂👍
Thank ya kindly mate 🙏 I'm still pretty much at a loss with it 🙈
Use it as a cheese grater 😮
I'd definitely have more luck with that 😂👍
Nice dining room posh boy 😂
Cheers mate! That's just my Guitar storage Dining room in the east wing 😜👍
My take: treat like going on holiday to a place with different weather, different language and different ways of doing things.
Have fun with it. Explore it without judgement - get emotional reactions out of the way.
If some want to chug and solo n scream with it well ... ?
That's a great mindset mate - love it! 😎👌
I do have to do the chuggy chuggs for the lessons currently - Not really my thing, but I have to admit it's still fun 😀👍
Steve it’s a good job you have long fingers mate 🤘🍺
Cheers mate! 🤚🖐️Still not long enough to tickle this beast tho! 😂
Maybe Death Country/Funk is cool on an 8-string🙃
😂 I'll see if I can find a Spotify playlist - Cheers! 😁👍
Ivr never seen the need for a 7 or 8 string unless, if you break a string or two you don't have to buy extra strings, maybe. Lol.
That's a great benefit I'd never considered 😂👍
@stevecassidyguitar 🤣
I can't play 6, what am I going to do with 2 more strings
I can't either! 😂👍
😂😂😂
My head is broken, my new tele is telling me to have a lay down, it’s just a bad dream.
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It's ok mate - You're Tele's right 😅👍
Tele's are always right 😎👍
Except for the lefty ones
An 8 string Bass would be Cool
I think this might be an 8 string Bass too 😂👍
Guitar is for sure for country music!
Ha! 😂 Seems like the ideal fit 👌
Had that in a seven string version and the leads wouldn’t go into the jack socket,sent it back and was still waiting on a replacement 7 months. Still wasn’t available so got my money back, I don’t know why the wait was so long👎👎👎
Yeeesh! That sux 👎👎.
This one isn't perfect either, had a wee paint chip on the headstock and some finish imperfections, I didn't notice until the next day.
It's workable though and pretty much just a teaching aid for now 👍
ZZ tops 17 string bass next on the list 😂
Is that really a thing!?!? Genius! 😂👌
@stevecassidyguitar yes it sure is! 🙂
What to do on an 8 string guitar…
Head to the sea and ride a wave 🏄🏽♂️
Once that pupil leaves school next year, that might be a good shout 😂👍
Crazy guitar!
Bonkers! 🥴😂
If you got an 8 string Rich - would that count as 1 guitar? Or a Guitar and a Bass? Or 2 4 string Guitars? 🤔
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I've setup a couple of Bass guitars for a friend recently and I was playing it like a guitar and damn it was odd. I can only hope he doesn't go for one of these .. I'll have to grow some extra long fingers 🤣
😂👍 I think extra fingers that are long - would be super useful 😂👍
@@stevecassidyguitar I wonder if the High E and B ever get played with the style of music these are meant for😉
@@mark_greening_gtr Ha! good point! 😂👍I'm not even sure if the first 6 strings get played!
Things to do with an 8 string guitar:
. Play happy birthday on the thinnest string
. Play the fattest string 010011000111000011110001110011010
. Record an entire album of 60 minutes with just an f# minor open chord
. Detune the guitar to be extra edgy and jazzy and progressive. Doesn't need to sound good either.
. Do what every reasonable 8 string guitar player would do: tune the entire guitar to the same f# note and strum away. Extra points if you use a slider.
. Shave.
😂🤣😂🤣
Pure Gold!
Thanks for sharing mate! 😂👌
Currently working on step 1 😎👍
@stevecassidyguitar you can lso grate cheese with it. Or ask it out, pay her dinner, watch a movie together...
@jumpingman8160 🤣👍
Funny you should mention... Straight after the unboxing and test we watched batteries not included 😎👌
A memory I'll cherish for weeks 🤩
@@stevecassidyguitar love that movie. Will always remember the little bot that was stillborn 🤟
@@jumpingman8160 poor wee guy 😢
Well, THAT was an unexpected guitar.
I still can't quite believe it myself 😂
The low B stands for blues 🤣🤣
"Blues gimp gets an 8 string" might have been a better title 😂
@@stevecassidyguitar considering how metal it looks, it did quite well with the different styles. I'm suitably impressed 👍
@@BudgetPedalChap Did you ever get an 8k subs celebratory Guitar? 8 strings seems appropriate 👹😜
@@stevecassidyguitar I did not, I am waiting for the HB Dullahan line to come back into rotation and I'm pretty sure I'll pounce on that 👍
@BudgetPedalChap That sounds like a 10k subs celebratory guitar 😁
"What do you do on an 8 string guitar" get Carpal Tunnel lmao
playing a 7 string with a fairy wide neck was too much for me after a while. Still don't have a 5 string bass for similar reasons.
Seriously though, look into the Boss music in Sonic Frontiers which is played in a stupid low tuning, Undefeatable is actually incredible, I play the riff on bass.
I can totally see that - I don't think I could play something like this for a gig - not just because it would be completely unsuitable 😂 but 2-3 hours on that would be a killer for the wrist I reckon.
Maybe I just need to address my "technique" 😜
@@stevecassidyguitar try learning Undefeatable from Sonic Frontiers on it - incredible riff!
@@SisterRose I'm still learning how to hold it 😂👍
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Cheers mate! 😀🙏
It’s a big daft, having extra two strings, and then I think, “I’ve a Bass IV!” I’ll shut up now.
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But isn't a bass iV just a regular bass? 🤔
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@ I love it. Just a fun thing to have. And it means I get to pretend to be Bob Smith from the Cure in my garage or spare room. With less hair and lipstick!!
@ think I need an edit! Bass VI!!
@Brijoolz I know, I know 😂😜👍
@Brijoolz 😂😂👍
Play slide on the bottom two and normal stuff on the others😅😅😅😅😅. Such a flat neck needs a tone bar😂😂😂😂Of course, Steve, the biggest problem will be finding a gig bag😂
That doesn't sound complicated at all 😂👍
Luckily.... The Thomann Deluxe Electric Gig Bag I already had fit like a glove.
I love those gig bags - only like £25, has 20mm padding and fit's every solid body I've thrown at it (or in it) 😜
Cassidy you are a true Djent!
Ha! 😂👌 Cheers pal! 😘
Noooooo! Another Harley Benton 😂
It's a wee bit different though 😜 Well... at least it is for me 😂
send it back change it for a guitar bag
😂👍 I am looking for a good Semi Hollow gig bag, but that won't help me with teaching my 8 string equipped pupil 😂
Steve Cassidy you're a Djentleman and a scholar only thing i can suggest is sprout a couple more fingers matey 🤔🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️
😂👍 Definitely! - These should come with extra fingers 😁
I have the perfect suggestion as to what you can do with a 8 string guitar: play it.
Easier said than done mate 😂👍
Still Game reference with ‘Weclome’?
100% mate! Well spotted! 😁👌
Very few people know where it's from - Absolute classic 😂👍
Getifu. Ya bassa! 😅
Charming! 😂
FFB = Friggin Finger Buster 😬
Ha! That must be it! 😂👍
Step one , take off two strings or alternatively get yourself down to the gym and start working on those hand, arm and finger muscles so you can master those bar chords. In your case however, bearing in mind your own statements about your small hands, just take off two strings.
Barre Chords on this!?!? Nae chance! 😂
I'd need to get on the Roids! 💪👹
But yeah.. Maybe I'll take off the A and G strings 😜👍
wtf! Nice looking but sod trying to play it
Pretty much my sentiments exactly 😂👍
You take two strings off and have at it 🤟
Ha! Sounds like a smart move 😂👍
I'm still pretty much at a loss with it 🙈
Musicians only count to 4. This 4 + 4 thing you speak of is even more confusing that the 4 + 2 I normally encounter. Gimme a bass. 😊
@@bosshogg8273 You lost me at "Musicians" 😂😜
That's an affy lot oh strings so it is!
7 more than necessary!
@@stevecassidyguitar 😅
@rosskirk9950 you tried out one o dem 6 string Jets yet? 😁
@stevecassidyguitar No yet but soon it shall happen!!
@rosskirk9950 tidy 😀👍