It's a lose-lose situation. You either blow up the refinery and kill hundreds of imperial personnel, or you leave it be and let them manufacture more weapons to kill thousands.
I loved the scene where Djin and the bald dude (can't remember his name) came through alive, and the stormtroopers saluted them. I especially love it because it shows a side of the stormtroopers that covey's general respect, and loyalty to their comrades. It makes it all the more sad that most of these people were genuinely good.
It hurt to know that all those people saluting and cheering more than likely died in the refinery. Then Mayfeld tries to say that it would help him sleep at night when they blew up the refinery. Like, “Oh yeah let me blow up this refinery with not only troopers but civilian workers, it’ll be fine.”
Boba probably serviced, and repainted it while on Slave 1. Similar to cleaning your blaster, or maintaining your equipment. The armor needed a good coat of paint after being in the desert for 6 years.
I hated the not weathers armor because those scratched give the armor history and gave another reason to not mess with him so personally I hated the not scratched armor
@@otterboysworkshop7024 I take as Boba closing a chapter of his old life, and starting a new one with Mando. Maybe Boba will become an official Mandalorian.
I mean, all the troopers don’t really die when shot. The armor works great, it just knocks you out because it spreads the shot energy throughout the entire body.
They made the whole incompetent Stormtrooper trope canon with the whole Mando-Mayfield convo about Mayfield not being a Stormtrooper cuz hes a Sharpshooter. Now the Stormtroopers are canonically a joke..aside from that bullshit the rest of the Mandalorian is fantastic.
Too add., the emperor is thr sole reason the Empire was run to the ground. His whole " lets run our Empire on fear with wiping out settlements, working with criminal syndicates, using bone white armour , scary shaped vehicles and treat our troops like fodder " vs the winning hearts and minds, give the troops camo, ditch the Soviet doctrine and give them repulsor tanks. As always its the enlisted and groundpounders that will always suffer and be the badasses.
@@InitialiseDisk bra... he never died, you can see him later escaping from the waterfall I know it’s him cause he had a burned part of his armor where he was hit. Don’t worry guys he’s alive!
They needed room to make new stories, the EU was so heavily explored that it would've been hard to keep it without contradicting it, and it would be incredibly restrictive for the writers to make good character arcs
@@booleroftheeast Considering how contradictory the ST alone was even to itself and how much they are just borrowing, I think it had far less to do with 'creative freedom' and more to do with putting more money into their own pocket by snubbing older artists, authors and creators that had contracts negotiated with Lucas and Lucasarts, such as denying royalties to Alan Dean Foster, refusing to credit or pay for ship design artwork from the old Visual Guides and older works. They also haven't really done anything 'new' rather just condensed the EU to about a year and some change and cherry picked the rest.
This is one of my favourite episodes for how they humanise the Empire and actually show how competent the stormtroopers are, look at how they dealt with the pirates, quick, efficient and not one shot missed, however all of that was unfortunately thrown out the window at the end of the episode
Legends pointed out that a lot more of Imperial Remnant troopers were battle hardened veterans that survived what others did not, and decided to remain loyal even after evidence was presented to them of their faction’s evil. It would make sense that they would be a step above the average stormies who had rushed training, esp since they had to be the “little guys”, now. It would also make sense that they would be either less innocent or more brainwashed.
It's like we see the Grand Moff's reaction to the order of blowing up Endor from the cutscene in ROTJ. But to summarize it, some people believe in security over freedom even if the establishment is evil. If you are a wealthy billionaire, would you be so easy to give up the life you and your loved ones have for others? If you're having an enjoyable life, the so-called evil establishment must be doing something correct, is it not? If so, why fight it?
People in general can also be easily scared into choosing tyranny in the name of safety. Just look at the US today, people are destroying the lives of small business owners across the country and taking away their means of earning a living because of a virus that has a 99.99% recovery rate
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged Forcing people to close their businesses and go bankrupt is cruel and causes death from suicide and drug addiction as people try to cope with their life's work being destroyed. People are capable of being responsible by themselves. Let them make their own decisions on whether they want to go out. Stay inside if you are scared of getting infected.
Same, would love a series that explores a remnant faction led by a Good grand moff who is surrounded by evil moffs/officers where they are having a power struggle with and is just trying to do the right thing through reform while doing their best to prevent their territory from disintegrating and falling into the hands of the new republic's incompetent hands. The series could explore the reasons why people support evil regimes and why it is so difficult for good people in the system to make good and lasting change.
Honestly this episode just strengthens the idea that we really need to see either more of the empire's good side or a series dedicated to a stormtrooper and Imperial officer. Even in the books you have examples of the empire being good in certain sectors of the Galaxy but bad in other ones. the empire was not completely evil and a lot of the people who served under it we're not evil either. There were plenty who believe they were actually doing the right thing. I think the problem with people thinking the empire's completely evil is just a fact that we only get to see the good side of the imperials from books or comic books. Let's be honest the majority of all people never read the books or the comics. Everybody just prefers watching a movie or a show and that's what the Empire honestly needs, to show the good and the bad.
I remember the backstory of Scar Squadron, they were elite commandos who used experimental armor and weapons, the leader even using a lightsaber. They lived on a war-torn world, and joined the Imperial Military to end the fighting and suffering, and to stop the rebellion from destroying more communities in their war against the empire. And they're technically canon too, because in the Last Jedi visual guides, it says that the Crait base was abandoned by the rebellion because of Scar Squadron.
Star Wars Force Commander which is technically non-canon until I see something about it in Disney had several Imperial officers who fought with honor and stood up for what they believe in though it lead them to joining the Rebellion.
@name less No. The empire is broken and evil to its core lmao. It does monstrous and evil acts without the direction of palatine because it was just made to do monstrous things and hold power for one person. The empire *is* Palatine. An extension of his power. The fucking tarkin doctrine, dude.
@name less Nah, mate. They're not. You have too much faith in the ideals of modern day fans of starwars. And likely in general, denizens of the internet. These people aren't joking. To root for the empire and look upon it and its works favorably in any respect is to directly and intentionally feed the authoritarian parts of the human mind.
the thing I wonder is how these troopers just kinda like oop hey let's just run straight into death not try a better tactic like not 1v1 a Mandalorian i mean come on.
Is the plot, as simple as that. Just look at how they disposed of the pirates without breaking a sweat. But a grunt will never defeat the main characters
@@VolkovVelikan that seriously irked me. They nailed all of their shots on those pirates but the moment they turned the guns onto Mayfeld and Din they just went smoothbrain and missed their shots. Same with the TIE fighters. They did an accurate gun run on pirates swarming a transport with volatile materials and didn’t rupture a single tank, but couldn’t hit the Slave-1.
Consider that similar things have happened with elite special forces in real life. The survivor for any number of reasons stays alive gets out somehow. I’m sure these attackers and stormtroopers alike all think “I’m gonna be the guy to kill him” and try all sorts of stupid things for the glory. This episode, we literally had a trooper lying down sideways on a windowsill just to try and see to shoot these guys. This also isn’t new, in a new hope, stormtroopers are literally tripping over each other just to get 3 people in a detention block.
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@@darthknightwingphoenix2081 that actually happens. soldiers will tell you about insurgents rushing out with rpgs that trip and fall with the rpg hitting the dirt triggering the impact fuse. insurgent no longer existed. also in the movies the stormtroopers missed when they were ordered to do so, so the heroes could be tracked to their base.
Would love a series that explores a remnant faction led by a Good grand moff who is surrounded by evil moffs/officers under them where they are having a power struggle with and is just trying to do the right thing through reform while doing their best to prevent their territory from disintegrating and falling into the hands of a incompetent new republic. The series could explore the reasons why people support evil regimes and why it is so difficult for good people in the system to make good and lasting change.
THIS is what the First Order and the Final Order lacked. A human element. The First Order's whole selling point is, "The guys who got kicked out of the Nazis for being too Fucked up." They are evil to the point of parody. The Empire on the other hand is still evil, but it's done in a way that it feels like a kind of faction that normal and even good people can still join with the belief that a lot of their system's failings are either exaggerated by dissidents or just a necessary evil. And, that's not even entirely untrue. It really depended where you grew up under the Empire. Thrawn in Legends points out how a lot, if not most Imperial worlds had never even seen a Stormtrooper or TIE Fighter and, as long as they payed their taxes and stayed loyal, lived a pretty quiet life and weren't harassed by slavers or pirates. Hell, Admiral Piett, Darth Vader's fleet commander, free a lot of Out Rim systems from several petty pirate and slaver factions that treated their people a LOT worse than the Empire did. I'm glad they included this little bit in the episode. When people ask to play as an Imperial in a Star Wars game, they aren't asking to have the Empire turned into this benevolent faction, they just want to see a story told of men and women who believe they are doing a good thing, and maybe even ARE doing good, under an, at best, morally questionable regime. I mean, it's not impossible. The Republic was a corrupt bureaucratic mess that had a literally slave army and we rooted for them for several seasons of the clone wars. I just find it hard to get that same vibe with the First Order. There's no loyalty. No comradery. Anyways, Long Live The Empire.
"The Empire improves every system it touches. By any metric: safety, prosperity, peace." As a data scientist, I'd be a full-blown Imperial. I can see many parallels between the core world citizens and the citizens of the first world on our planet. Many of us would definitely be Imperials.
This episode made me very happy to see the empire win a battle but was immediately saddened when they blew up the base. We need more content on the common solider of the empire
To be honest, I hope some fo the people at that refinery survived, especially those that looked to be refinery workers and not didn't serve in a combat role.
Most definitely some would have survived. At the end we see the explosions but the dam still appears operational and parts of the facility were left untouched.
The reason I prefer them is because they sound much cooler and kinda were. Also the armor and looks for the Empire is SOOOO much cooler than the Rebel scum!
We sometimes forget that a good deal of empire troops, stormtrooper and otherwise were just living their lives as best they could within the new order. I first had that moment in The Force Awakens when the trooper with the baton shouted Traitor at Finn. First time I heard emotion from a stormtrooper that wasn’t a Wilhelm scream. He felt betrayed by someone he thought a comrade. Tho I admit the scene in Mando season two where the Stormtroopers cheer made me feel it more in my gut
This is why we need a series following a pair of Stormtroopers doing their daily duties. So we can see that even though they were the bad guys, they weren't necessarily BAD guys
You forgot something else: like our real-world militaries, not every Imperial trooper would be engaging in combat. You'd have engineers, technicians, mechanics, scientists, doctors, analysts, etc. The Imperial army/navy would have been a career path for many people, _especially_ those in the outer rim who didn't have many other options for a decent life. You think all those people on the second Death Star were soldiers? No way. The thing was still under construction, it would have been filled with non-combatants.
I mean, as it was it really was evil. The ideas behind it of having a strong government and military to bring peace, prosperity, and to stop corruption were good, but they were not executed even remotely well. Because of the leadership the empire became the opposite of what it could have been.
This mandalirian episode I was wandering why he didn't he put his helmet on when the officer was walking up to him he could of prevented him swing his face
I'm glad to see a new perspective on the empire. But also glad to see how Slave 1 looks inside when it's leaving the atmosphere. I always thought it was antigravity in there or something
The fact Mayfield kills that officer goes to show that even though the empire had some ordinary people in it, they were deceived by what the empire truly was because of its powerful propaganda machine. The simmering anger of hearing that officer go on and on about how countless loyal imperials who Mayfield might’ve even considered friends were deemed acceptable losses felt like Dr King from Django just before he killed Calvin Candie.
@name less And then they captured wookies and forced them to build the death star at gun point. And then they watched Vader force choke innocent people for the lols and did nothing. And they watched the Empire blow up a planet and did nothing. It's actually a very real human trait that is super scary, people have a tendency to just listen to people with authority even when they are ordered to do something evil.
Thanks a lot for posting this, and I would love to see more new posts concerning the morale, and mindset of the Empire if possible, specifically, and mainly the stormtroopers. Keep up the great work!
That one Shore Trooper just there in the cantine with his lunch tray like Bro, Im a week away from retirement and you have to start a shootout right here?
I always liked the empire, and the best way to explain myself is precisely that scene with the troopers helping their comrades and saluting, with high morale. The average stormtrooper was as human as the average rebel. Some joined to serve the empire out of patriotism, others to know the Galaxy, and others to have a better life and get out of some backwater planet in which their only choice was being a poor farmer or a criminal, the empire offered them a higher purpose. I also remember watching a video about The Lore master that said that stormtroopers had pretty good salaries and pensions, even in case of the death of the trooper if he had a family, the family would get his pension. Like it was said in the video, the main problem was the Power hunger Moffs and officers who aside from being out of touch with their own troops were pretty incompetent and will do whatever was in their hands to get more power. That and well, Palpatine. Honestly with all the series that were announced, it really pains me that they didn’t do one about Stormtroopers and the imperial perspective of things, like they’re doing a series about Cassian Andor like really? The stormies get no love 😔
Yea but they would also kill innocent people without even thinking about it if it meant protecting that pension. It does stink we never really get their side of the story, but I'm pretty sure they are just the same as soldiers in Germany in ww2. Sure some are patriotic or good people but the fact is none of them flinched when ordered to put people in cattle carts and ship them to work camps. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure the death star was built by wookie slaves
@@VolkovVelikan But that's exactly what the empire is based off of. German soldiers were called storm troopers in German. Vaders helmet is even shaped like a Nazi helmet
I would love to see a Star Wars series, where you follow a group of guys,starting with them joining the imperial academy, and maybe ending (after 4-5 seasons) with the destruction of the 2nd Death Star. I should focus on why people saw the empire as good, and the humanity of the stormtroopers. No jedi nonsense, no "only the rebellion is good", "just" bunch of guys joining the army.
Another huge reason I think so many joined the Empire, was because the early groups of rebels (not the alliance) really were just terrorists. Often times killing civilians and terrorizing innocent worlds just to fight the Empire.
@@VolkovVelikan Not a scout, he wasn't in the Corps with the Stormtroopers. Based on what we know it seems he was an agent in one of the intelligence agencies or the regular Army, specialized in sniping.
The rebels were always performing reprehensible actions with using Alderaan for munitions production and brainwashing the Ewoks into getting blown up in suicide missions when the primitive hunters never got harmed by the imperial soldiers
Why in the world do any of you pretend the empire had political stability lol. The politicians were all military officers that killed each other for power and had constant infighting. The acts of the empire against it's citizens and people were the very actions that caused more instability. Because suffering people want to stop suffering, and the empire caused much more suffering than good.
@@azure9809 galactic empire have a senate that are all just puppets of the emperor. if they are all puppets to the emperor, there would be no arguments between them. thats the political stability the empire referred to.i think you are referring to the competence between military officers but they are not killed by other officers but vader. for the stability claim, i think it is totally propaganda to the citizens in the inner core systems. stability may also mean end of fighting in the outer rim if the people submit to the empire.
@@azure9809 yes, the chaos of the senate is end since all senators are replaced by puppets. thats the stability the empire propaganda refers to. the senate is pretty much useless since then though. dismiss the senate or not make not much difference. the empire can even save some money on weapons rather than on the puppets that pretend that democracy still exists in the empire because emperor believed that no one could resist the empire with the death star activated.
There are three reasons that people will follow the Galactic Empire, one is that the Empire was a very powerful government that brought stability to several planets, two the Imperial propaganda machine was extremely effective in portraying the Galactic Empire as a positive force in the Galaxy, and the final reason is that the Galactic Empire was a vast organization that there would be several factions that will have similar ideologies and after the fall of the Galactic Empire they stayed loyal because of their ideology. Though several people will probably become demoralized after the destruction of the second Death Star and Operation Cinder will break the spirit of even the most loyal imperial soldiers.
I hope he never removes his helmet again. I really dont like seeing him wothout the helmet, because while yes its just a small mando cult that follows that tradition, but it was part of his character that he was raised his whole life following that.
8:14-8:20: Just like Mayfeld said in the episode you do what you can to help yourself sleep at night. He was also right about people believing in different things which is why they did what they did, and how every fraction, even the good ones can have a darker side, like when he mentioned the war crimes committed by Mandalorians. Sure, Mando himself is a good guy, as are many Mandalorians we've come to know that are either good people or at least honorable people, like Jango when he led the protectors, Fen, Sabine, Bo-Katan and her Night Owls and so on. However, that doesn't change the fact that many Mandalorians especially when the clan was first founded were war crazed lunatics, and some still fear Mandalorians despite the good done by Mando and others, and Mando really should learn about his tribes past so he can take what did work and get ride of what didn't to create a new better clan of Mandalorians that aren't blood thirsty monsters.
@@ArckAngel75 Ysah lmao, I fucken died when I saw that he played a role in the series. I was like, "How in the hell did they manage to get him in the show?"
It frustrates me how in the same episode they chose to humanize the troops of the empire, Miggs, the one who was talking about the loss of his brothers in arms, decided to kill every last trooper in that base at the end when he blew it up. He didn't stop to consider that maybe those troops were just like him for even a second? Maybe im wrong and they deserved it, but it certainly didn't feel that way. I thought the point of that scene where the troops were portrayed much the same as the rebels in the OT was to make the characters feel some amount of remorse for mindlessly slaughtering these men in the past and inevitably in the future, but instead they went out of their way to kill all of them. If you disagree lmk why but it bothered me personally
I think the reason for it was because the material they were mining was the same material used in operation cinder, an operation which obv bothered him so from his perspective it was a lesser evil
Doubtful every trooper was killed, the facility was shown to be still operating at the end, and parts of the base weren't even touched by the explosions.
@@alexissandoval1284 fair, but the point still stands, he killed a lot of troopers who were in essentially the same situation that he used to be in during operation cinder
If it makes you feel better, most Stormtroopers are just knocked out by blaster bolts as their armour displaces it around their body, which stuns them rather than killing them. However he would have died when the refinery blew up..
@Riso Nazi-ism isn't the tradition or culture of Germany. Never has been. It was the ideology of a weak pathetic human being that drew other weak and pathetic human beings together to pretend to be strong amidst the suffering and pain they caused the world. The Nazis deserved to be crushed into a pulp beyond any form or recognition or salvaging. And so do all fascist regimes and movements. Germany's doing just fine without Nazi-ism.
@@azure9809 the nazis made one of their staples the tradition and history of the Allemenians and Germanic tribes that made up Northern Europe. Just read the first chapter of Hitlers book and you can understand
I'd really love for more videos like this one and I hope in the future Disney makes a show about just imperial grunts fighting the good fight like have them deployed to the outer rim to fight slavers or make a rebel band really dark and have them protects the local population from those rebel terrorists.
It's good to keep perspective when shown the humanity of those in the Empire. Not every rank and file soldier was pure evil, but they still gladly fought and died FOR pure evil... "Just goes to show, that Nazi Germany wasn't so bad after all." It's not really a fair comparison though, since the Empire committed far worse atrocities.
@@TheSuperRatt I disagree, 'Good and Evil are just words used by people in power or people in positions of power to justify their actions and or onto other people. More acts of evil are done in the name of good than in the name of evil. (Look at the Thirty Year War, and WW1, etc). The words 'good' and 'evil' are warped in interpretation and are subjective at face value. Also, no human holds the power of principality to what good or evil should be, again they're just words used by individuals holding power to propagandize their will or actions onto others. Lastly on your last point, It doesn't matter which side commits the most atrocities because peoples interpretations on the matter is subjective when tackling topics on morality and on what good and evil should be. I see the destruction of Alderaan a good thing because Tarkin reduced the crime and poverty rate to 0%.
The second scene you mentioned made me feel like we were deep in enemy territory now, it was less "happy" and more "here we go." I did silent cheer at the first one though
I think this was one of the best episodes of Mando so far (IMO), because it added such a subtle depth to the universe/cannon. Across all of the SW media now, (rebels, originals, etc.) you sort of have to look at even fodder stormtroopers as 'real people' now. The stormtroopers have been used as mainly a tool to provide simple antagonism/ action for the main characters to overcome, but this single stroke of writing adds a new depth to the story of Star Wars as a whole- a war, between two sides of living beings fighting for values which they believe to be just and true. I feel like the story of the original trilogy was about good overcoming evil, but with an emphasis on bringing out the good within evil (Vader), and the prequels being evil within good (Anakin's fall to the dark side, the beloved chancellor actually being an evil Sith Lord, the Jedi being fallible.) They're mirrors, it's like poetry, they rhyme. (Repping my boi George yeah what) As the story is moving forward as a franchise, it would be interesting to see that empathy and complexity extended into the common soldiers. Seeing the good within the empire (or at least the people who serve under it) and PERHAPS, even the evil within the rebellion. (A few ideas is: that they really don't seem to empathize with stormtroopers at all, throwing them off of buildings, may I note NEVER choosing to stun over blast, which ironically the stormtroopers do quite frequently. The rebellion seems to have no problem just flat out killing anyone who opposes them, despite whoever may have been under the mask. Perhaps this is out of necessity, but a future series could perhaps explore this, just to add more depth to the universe. I'm not saying the rebellion is evil, but it would be interesting to see them painted in a negative light, even for an episode. Also, the destruction of the Death Star. I mean, countless lives were taken indiscriminately in the destruction of both Death Stars, repair crews, technicians, average grunts. From an imperial point of view, the rebels are essentially terrorists. A show by AMC called Turn: Washingtons spies, focused on the American revolutionary war, did a great job of showing the mistakes of both sides. Growing up in the US, at least, in school we were always taught that the Patriots were the good guys (who never lie), and that was the end of the story. But there is a scene in the show where the patriots are in dire need of food to feed their army as they move forward through the war, and they end up killing a loyalist farmer and taking his crops. The farmers wife ends up hating the, in essence, rebellion. The side that has always been painted as the good guys is painted in a different, more complex light. It would be interesting to see something like this in Star Wars. Maybe the stormtroopers should be painted as ignorant, not evil. And maybe the rebellion should be painted as flawed and complicated, not a perfect embodiments of good. However, moral relativism isn't necessarily good. Evil and Good are not the same. Evil takes the lives of innocent people, where as good in its ideal form, does not. Star Wars in general, and this particular episode. really make the distinction that Good should triumph over Evil, as we saw with Mayfield ultimately making the decision to shoot the officer once he sees that; though he didn't see it in the average grunts, there is true malevolence in the empire that needs to be stopped. He sees there's a certain level of evil you can't reconcile with, and that you have to fight against. And that's an important message and distinction coming right after that epic "THE BOYS ARE HERE" moment with the tie fighters, and the following celebration, is quite a genius scene IMO. I think the Mando is a direct parallel to the storm troopers, because they are also not allowed to take off their helmets, which dehumanize them. Perhaps that speaks to the malevolence of palatine, with both the clones and the stormtroopers, he wanted an army of faceless and inhuman men to die for pointless wars of his own doing. Lots of complex stuff introduced into the cannon with a single episode!!!
I'm pretty sure that there would also be cases where some individuals considering defecting or questioning the Empire, 'mysteriously disappeared' if the higher up loyalists found out about it.
First off long live the Empire also we can all agree that the empire had some of its most loyal soldiers i mean come on they kept fighting even after the fall 🤷🏻
You know, you could substitute the word "Empire" in this video with "The United States" and "the United states military" and it would still make 100% sense. Separatism, terrorism, what have you...
i just watched through the last few episodes of the 2nd season with my dad. We both loved this episode, and i feel those fighting for the empire specifically WEREN'T fighting for freedom but security, safety, and order cause at least in the beginning of the Empire that was what everyone wanted after the hell that was the Clone Wars for people
Yeah i totaly loved this episode and the finaly from the first season espacily the 5 minutes with the 2 scout troppers A:"why should we wait?" B:"well Moth gideon just executed a captin because he spoke" A:" ah yes tey are like that sometimes" B:" yeh they do so much for their big entrance", these 2 scouts + this base were really moments i was like "GO TROOPERS!!!!!"
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I really liked the episode, cool to see SOME humanity of the empire, with the morale of the troops
Basically the viewpoints of troops in every war
Ikr i loved the part where the storm troopers just cheered them on
We did then they were used as the plots personal toilet and were fodder and useless again
Gotta love the nuance the show portrays!
@@geetslys hell yeah man i feel this show can be quite versatile when it wants to
I honestly felt bad when they blew up the refinery until slave 1 did the THING
BRRRRR BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
T h e T H I N G.
T h e T h i n g
It's a lose-lose situation. You either blow up the refinery and kill hundreds of imperial personnel, or you leave it be and let them manufacture more weapons to kill thousands.
@@kroposman2302 blow it.
I loved the scene where Djin and the bald dude (can't remember his name) came through alive, and the stormtroopers saluted them.
I especially love it because it shows a side of the stormtroopers that covey's general respect, and loyalty to their comrades. It makes it all the more sad that most of these people were genuinely good.
That was awesome showed a nicer part of the stormtroopers
That was mayfield the guy part of that crew that mando threw in jail
They were happy their boys came back safe
Mostly bc he was a hero
It hurt to know that all those people saluting and cheering more than likely died in the refinery. Then Mayfeld tries to say that it would help him sleep at night when they blew up the refinery. Like, “Oh yeah let me blow up this refinery with not only troopers but civilian workers, it’ll be fine.”
I genuinely thought that they accidentally filmed a unweathered version of boba fett this week
Boba probably serviced, and repainted it while on Slave 1. Similar to cleaning your blaster, or maintaining your equipment. The armor needed a good coat of paint after being in the desert for 6 years.
HAHHAHA
He finally repainted his armour after nearly 25 years
I hated the not weathers armor because those scratched give the armor history and gave another reason to not mess with him so personally I hated the not scratched armor
@@otterboysworkshop7024 I take as Boba closing a chapter of his old life, and starting a new one with Mando. Maybe Boba will become an official Mandalorian.
I just don’t like when the storm troopers die a whole lot or gruesomely. They are just people tryna make a livin and whatnot.
Long live the empire
I mean, all the troopers don’t really die when shot. The armor works great, it just knocks you out because it spreads the shot energy throughout the entire body.
They made the whole incompetent Stormtrooper trope canon with the whole Mando-Mayfield convo about Mayfield not being a Stormtrooper cuz hes a Sharpshooter. Now the Stormtroopers are canonically a joke..aside from that bullshit the rest of the Mandalorian is fantastic.
Too add., the emperor is thr sole reason the Empire was run to the ground. His whole " lets run our Empire on fear with wiping out settlements, working with criminal syndicates, using bone white armour , scary shaped vehicles and treat our troops like fodder " vs the winning hearts and minds, give the troops camo, ditch the Soviet doctrine and give them repulsor tanks. As always its the enlisted and groundpounders that will always suffer and be the badasses.
Long live the empire
I was just happy to see Shore Troopers again. Really like their design
I agree , I sorta wish we saw tie fighter were tie strikers
Same
Omg yesss the best trooper design 😍
In battlefront 2 I always use the shore trooper skin
@@darthnward3969 better not use it on hoth 😤
RIP that shoretrooper with the tray, he just wanted his lunch.
Same! I felt so bad when they killed him!!! 😩😩😩
@@InitialiseDisk bra... he never died, you can see him later escaping from the waterfall
I know it’s him cause he had a burned part of his armor where he was hit. Don’t worry guys he’s alive!
@@sp1no9993 cool!
@@sp1no9993 They need a spin off of the lunch trooper seeking revenge.
@@JakeBaldwin1 Lunch Trooper unleashes Dark Trooper droids on the rebel politicians
Not really sure why they scrapped the Expanded Universe when they borrow so heavily from it.
I think it can be pretty neat how much we can rescue from the Old cannon
Just goes to show how little they planned things out...
At least old Expanded Universe stuff is making it back!
They needed room to make new stories, the EU was so heavily explored that it would've been hard to keep it without contradicting it, and it would be incredibly restrictive for the writers to make good character arcs
@@booleroftheeast Considering how contradictory the ST alone was even to itself and how much they are just borrowing, I think it had far less to do with 'creative freedom' and more to do with putting more money into their own pocket by snubbing older artists, authors and creators that had contracts negotiated with Lucas and Lucasarts, such as denying royalties to Alan Dean Foster, refusing to credit or pay for ship design artwork from the old Visual Guides and older works. They also haven't really done anything 'new' rather just condensed the EU to about a year and some change and cherry picked the rest.
Well, Disney wanted to do a reset so they could make money pumping out "new" content.
Can't believe I was rooting for the Empire this episode!!!
That is, until Operation Cinder was brought up...
Operation Cinder was a New Repubic lie!
@@TheMrPeteChannel There is a reward of 1 000 000 credits for an evidence of Emperor knowing about the operation sinder
Real fan!
@@geetslys hah. I am back from work at 6:30 AM where I live. That's when usually your uploads show up.
@@geetslys damn, so im not a real fan for having to google it... ._.
Me cheering for the tie fighters taking out pirates.
My GF: wait, your cheering for the Empire??
Me:(pulls my pistol) always have been...
This is one of my favourite episodes for how they humanise the Empire and actually show how competent the stormtroopers are, look at how they dealt with the pirates, quick, efficient and not one shot missed, however all of that was unfortunately thrown out the window at the end of the episode
Stormies are great when not shooting at characters necessary to the plot
@@derkreuzritter6789 Or when the character is wearing beskar.
Legends pointed out that a lot more of Imperial Remnant troopers were battle hardened veterans that survived what others did not, and decided to remain loyal even after evidence was presented to them of their faction’s evil.
It would make sense that they would be a step above the average stormies who had rushed training, esp since they had to be the “little guys”, now.
It would also make sense that they would be either less innocent or more brainwashed.
@@thehumanoddity or when you are on the side of a wall on a tall dam. that gets to people
Hopefully we'll see some good imperials in a new imperial remnant
It's like we see the Grand Moff's reaction to the order of blowing up Endor from the cutscene in ROTJ.
But to summarize it, some people believe in security over freedom even if the establishment is evil. If you are a wealthy billionaire, would you be so easy to give up the life you and your loved ones have for others? If you're having an enjoyable life, the so-called evil establishment must be doing something correct, is it not? If so, why fight it?
People in general can also be easily scared into choosing tyranny in the name of safety. Just look at the US today, people are destroying the lives of small business owners across the country and taking away their means of earning a living because of a virus that has a 99.99% recovery rate
@@yaboiyaboy9980 keep your conspiracy theories to yourself. You wanna contribute to sickness and death? Go right ahead, but do so alone.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged Forcing people to close their businesses and go bankrupt is cruel and causes death from suicide and drug addiction as people try to cope with their life's work being destroyed.
People are capable of being responsible by themselves. Let them make their own decisions on whether they want to go out. Stay inside if you are scared of getting infected.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged No conspiracy here bub. What he said is all facts.
The left would be the empire
This episode just wanted me to get an imperial themed series
Same, would love a series that explores a remnant faction led by a Good grand moff who is surrounded by evil moffs/officers where they are having a power struggle with and is just trying to do the right thing through reform while doing their best to prevent their territory from disintegrating and falling into the hands of the new republic's incompetent hands.
The series could explore the reasons why people support evil regimes and why it is so difficult for good people in the system to make good and lasting change.
Check out the thrawn audio comics. Soooo good
Honestly this episode just strengthens the idea that we really need to see either more of the empire's good side or a series dedicated to a stormtrooper and Imperial officer. Even in the books you have examples of the empire being good in certain sectors of the Galaxy but bad in other ones. the empire was not completely evil and a lot of the people who served under it we're not evil either. There were plenty who believe they were actually doing the right thing. I think the problem with people thinking the empire's completely evil is just a fact that we only get to see the good side of the imperials from books or comic books. Let's be honest the majority of all people never read the books or the comics. Everybody just prefers watching a movie or a show and that's what the Empire honestly needs, to show the good and the bad.
I remember the backstory of Scar Squadron, they were elite commandos who used experimental armor and weapons, the leader even using a lightsaber. They lived on a war-torn world, and joined the Imperial Military to end the fighting and suffering, and to stop the rebellion from destroying more communities in their war against the empire. And they're technically canon too, because in the Last Jedi visual guides, it says that the Crait base was abandoned by the rebellion because of Scar Squadron.
Star Wars Force Commander which is technically non-canon until I see something about it in Disney had several Imperial officers who fought with honor and stood up for what they believe in though it lead them to joining the Rebellion.
alexander the great aren't they featured in a few of those skywalker comics? Those are canon too right?
@name less No. The empire is broken and evil to its core lmao. It does monstrous and evil acts without the direction of palatine because it was just made to do monstrous things and hold power for one person.
The empire *is* Palatine. An extension of his power.
The fucking tarkin doctrine, dude.
@name less Nah, mate. They're not. You have too much faith in the ideals of modern day fans of starwars. And likely in general, denizens of the internet.
These people aren't joking.
To root for the empire and look upon it and its works favorably in any respect is to directly and intentionally feed the authoritarian parts of the human mind.
the thing I wonder is how these troopers just kinda like oop hey let's just run straight into death not try a better tactic like not 1v1 a Mandalorian i mean come on.
Is the plot, as simple as that. Just look at how they disposed of the pirates without breaking a sweat. But a grunt will never defeat the main characters
@@VolkovVelikan that seriously irked me. They nailed all of their shots on those pirates but the moment they turned the guns onto Mayfeld and Din they just went smoothbrain and missed their shots. Same with the TIE fighters. They did an accurate gun run on pirates swarming a transport with volatile materials and didn’t rupture a single tank, but couldn’t hit the Slave-1.
Consider that similar things have happened with elite special forces in real life. The survivor for any number of reasons stays alive gets out somehow. I’m sure these attackers and stormtroopers alike all think “I’m gonna be the guy to kill him” and try all sorts of stupid things for the glory. This episode, we literally had a trooper lying down sideways on a windowsill just to try and see to shoot these guys. This also isn’t new, in a new hope, stormtroopers are literally tripping over each other just to get 3 people in a detention block.
@@Waddedupnapkin I think is lazy writing
The correct answer to your statement is plot armor...
Everybody really forget that Luke was trying to join the imperial academy
But what I don’t understand is that he then tells Obi-Wan he hates the empire?
@@InitialiseDisk it’s the chance to leave home. Imagine living your entire 19 year life in the same farm in the same desert. He needed a purpose
@@Grand_History ah I see now. Thanks!
@@InitialiseDisk no problem. It was a very reasonable question
@@InitialiseDisk Some of Jabba’s thugs or rebels murdered Owen and Beru in a false flag operation to make Luke fight against the empire
Geetsly's: uploads
Me: *very excited*
The Front: doesn't upload
Me: *slightly less excited
It's the same guy? They do sound the same 🧐
@Sean Ortiz I think it's the same guy
For future reference, The Front uploads Thursdays and Sundays, while Geetsly's uploads both of those days in addition to Tuesdays and whenever a big piece of Star Wars media comes out like an episode of The Mandalorian!
@@geetslys your damn right
@@geetslys Lmao, love the content you make for both channels! Great work!
Now nobody can say that they miss after they gunned down those pirates.
only to turn around and CONSTANTLY MISS PEOPLE AT NEAR POINT BLANK RANGE. If only we could get that kind of plot armor for our real-life troops...
Star Wars Plot Armor strikes again
Yup!
@@darthknightwingphoenix2081 that actually happens. soldiers will tell you about insurgents rushing out with rpgs that trip and fall with the rpg hitting the dirt triggering the impact fuse. insurgent no longer existed.
also in the movies the stormtroopers missed when they were ordered to do so, so the heroes could be tracked to their base.
@@darthknightwingphoenix2081 tbf Star Wars always brings up that stormtroopers can barely see in those helmets
Geetlys is the only star wars youtuber to warn about spoliers for the mandalorian season 2 before the video
Eckhart'sLadder does too, even in the title.
Would love a series that explores a remnant faction led by a Good grand moff who is surrounded by evil moffs/officers under them where they are having a power struggle with and is just trying to do the right thing through reform while doing their best to prevent their territory from disintegrating and falling into the hands of a incompetent new republic.
The series could explore the reasons why people support evil regimes and why it is so difficult for good people in the system to make good and lasting change.
THIS is what the First Order and the Final Order lacked. A human element.
The First Order's whole selling point is, "The guys who got kicked out of the Nazis for being too Fucked up." They are evil to the point of parody.
The Empire on the other hand is still evil, but it's done in a way that it feels like a kind of faction that normal and even good people can still join with the belief that a lot of their system's failings are either exaggerated by dissidents or just a necessary evil. And, that's not even entirely untrue. It really depended where you grew up under the Empire. Thrawn in Legends points out how a lot, if not most Imperial worlds had never even seen a Stormtrooper or TIE Fighter and, as long as they payed their taxes and stayed loyal, lived a pretty quiet life and weren't harassed by slavers or pirates. Hell, Admiral Piett, Darth Vader's fleet commander, free a lot of Out Rim systems from several petty pirate and slaver factions that treated their people a LOT worse than the Empire did.
I'm glad they included this little bit in the episode. When people ask to play as an Imperial in a Star Wars game, they aren't asking to have the Empire turned into this benevolent faction, they just want to see a story told of men and women who believe they are doing a good thing, and maybe even ARE doing good, under an, at best, morally questionable regime.
I mean, it's not impossible. The Republic was a corrupt bureaucratic mess that had a literally slave army and we rooted for them for several seasons of the clone wars.
I just find it hard to get that same vibe with the First Order. There's no loyalty. No comradery.
Anyways, Long Live The Empire.
I'm a Rebel all the way but I commend your short novel summarization, Imp.
Sounds like ISIL when compared to groups like the Taliban
"The Empire improves every system it touches. By any metric: safety, prosperity, peace."
As a data scientist, I'd be a full-blown Imperial. I can see many parallels between the core world citizens and the citizens of the first world on our planet. Many of us would definitely be Imperials.
Long live the empire...
Long live Thrawn
Death to the Empire
Empire:😃 Thrawn:😑
This episode made me very happy to see the empire win a battle but was immediately saddened when they blew up the base. We need more content on the common solider of the empire
To be honest, I hope some fo the people at that refinery survived, especially those that looked to be refinery workers and not didn't serve in a combat role.
Most definitely some would have survived. At the end we see the explosions but the dam still appears operational and parts of the facility were left untouched.
Rip that one shore trooper with a tray and cup that got shot R.I.P
Palpatine: In my new empire people will die and kill for what they believe!
Senator Sheev Armstrong
Not for credits! Not for rhydonium!
Windu: Why won't you die?!
Palpatine: Midiclorians, son!
Personally... I have ALWAYS seen the Empire as a good thing. I would have joined and died for it. Long live the Empire!
Long Live the Empire...
The reason I prefer them is because they sound much cooler and kinda were. Also the armor and looks for the Empire is SOOOO much cooler than the Rebel scum!
The empire would be fine if the leadership wasnt like what it is
It's truly disgusting to see literal fascists in the star wars community.
Pathetic.
@@azure9809 fascism is wholesome. 😊
While im a massive NewRepublicboo seeing the Imperial Soldiers cheering on the disguised troopers was really heart warming
We sometimes forget that a good deal of empire troops, stormtrooper and otherwise were just living their lives as best they could within the new order. I first had that moment in The Force Awakens when the trooper with the baton shouted Traitor at Finn. First time I heard emotion from a stormtrooper that wasn’t a Wilhelm scream. He felt betrayed by someone he thought a comrade. Tho I admit the scene in Mando season two where the Stormtroopers cheer made me feel it more in my gut
This is why we need a series following a pair of Stormtroopers doing their daily duties. So we can see that even though they were the bad guys, they weren't necessarily BAD guys
You forgot something else: like our real-world militaries, not every Imperial trooper would be engaging in combat. You'd have engineers, technicians, mechanics, scientists, doctors, analysts, etc. The Imperial army/navy would have been a career path for many people, _especially_ those in the outer rim who didn't have many other options for a decent life. You think all those people on the second Death Star were soldiers? No way. The thing was still under construction, it would have been filled with non-combatants.
"The Galactic Empire was evil"
*no*
I mean, as it was it really was evil. The ideas behind it of having a strong government and military to bring peace, prosperity, and to stop corruption were good, but they were not executed even remotely well. Because of the leadership the empire became the opposite of what it could have been.
The "mining" incident of Alderaan
Long live the Empire!!!!
Yes
The order of an oligarchy Empire is better than the corruption of a Repubic. For the glory of the Empire!
This mandalirian episode I was wandering why he didn't he put his helmet on when the officer was walking up to him he could of prevented him swing his face
I messed up on typeing sorry wondering not wandering and seeing not swing sorry again
Maybe it would seem suspicious
Deer in headlights moment was what that entire scene felt like and it fit perfectly.
Yes
I'm glad to see a new perspective on the empire. But also glad to see how Slave 1 looks inside when it's leaving the atmosphere. I always thought it was antigravity in there or something
The fact Mayfield kills that officer goes to show that even though the empire had some ordinary people in it, they were deceived by what the empire truly was because of its powerful propaganda machine. The simmering anger of hearing that officer go on and on about how countless loyal imperials who Mayfield might’ve even considered friends were deemed acceptable losses felt like Dr King from Django just before he killed Calvin Candie.
@name less if they can’t wake up, there’s nothing else he could do for them.
Well said!
@name less And then they captured wookies and forced them to build the death star at gun point. And then they watched Vader force choke innocent people for the lols and did nothing. And they watched the Empire blow up a planet and did nothing. It's actually a very real human trait that is super scary, people have a tendency to just listen to people with authority even when they are ordered to do something evil.
Mayfeld not Mayfield ffs
not going to lie I always been more of a imperial guy than a rebel.
Me too. They just look cool.
I’m the opposite as well as more in tuned with the Mandalorians.
I'm more for the Empire, they look cool and we never get their side of the story
@@Tyr0ne30 We almost did with Iden, until it turned into the classic bad guy turns good story.
@@alexissandoval1284 Ikr, shame that's the "side if the empire" that we get. 3 MISSIONS
Thanks a lot for posting this, and I would love to see more new posts concerning the morale, and mindset of the Empire if possible, specifically, and mainly the stormtroopers. Keep up the great work!
Do you know how clones where assigned to their battalions address cores
That one Shore Trooper just there in the cantine with his lunch tray like
Bro, Im a week away from retirement and you have to start a shootout right here?
Just realized you can see Din’s plasma rifle and helmet in the shop at the Black Spire outpost at Disney land
Time stamp plz
ugh.
I always liked the empire, and the best way to explain myself is precisely that scene with the troopers helping their comrades and saluting, with high morale. The average stormtrooper was as human as the average rebel. Some joined to serve the empire out of patriotism, others to know the Galaxy, and others to have a better life and get out of some backwater planet in which their only choice was being a poor farmer or a criminal, the empire offered them a higher purpose. I also remember watching a video about The Lore master that said that stormtroopers had pretty good salaries and pensions, even in case of the death of the trooper if he had a family, the family would get his pension.
Like it was said in the video, the main problem was the Power hunger Moffs and officers who aside from being out of touch with their own troops were pretty incompetent and will do whatever was in their hands to get more power. That and well, Palpatine.
Honestly with all the series that were announced, it really pains me that they didn’t do one about Stormtroopers and the imperial perspective of things, like they’re doing a series about Cassian Andor like really? The stormies get no love 😔
Isn't there a Bad batch series that can cover that?
@@blackpowderkun not really
Yea but they would also kill innocent people without even thinking about it if it meant protecting that pension. It does stink we never really get their side of the story, but I'm pretty sure they are just the same as soldiers in Germany in ww2. Sure some are patriotic or good people but the fact is none of them flinched when ordered to put people in cattle carts and ship them to work camps. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure the death star was built by wookie slaves
@@yaboiyaboy9980 you know, is pretty basic to compare everything you deem evil to Germany during the war. 😒
@@VolkovVelikan But that's exactly what the empire is based off of. German soldiers were called storm troopers in German. Vaders helmet is even shaped like a Nazi helmet
Still a better alternative than the old or new republics, Glory to the Empire
This reminds us of the concept of "Banality of evil"...
I would love to see a Star Wars series, where you follow a group of guys,starting with them joining the imperial academy, and maybe ending (after 4-5 seasons) with the destruction of the 2nd Death Star.
I should focus on why people saw the empire as good, and the humanity of the stormtroopers.
No jedi nonsense, no "only the rebellion is good", "just" bunch of guys joining the army.
I always preferred the Empire over the Rebels. They looked cooler and put Humanity First.
“Death Star”
@@LateBandwagon kinda epic ngl
"Operation Cinder"
Completely!
Yeah, humanity first but destroys an entire planet full of of people for the sake of it 🙄
Always support The Empire
Another huge reason I think so many joined the Empire, was because the early groups of rebels (not the alliance) really were just terrorists. Often times killing civilians and terrorizing innocent worlds just to fight the Empire.
All the Rebels were terrorists!
That’s right
@@TheMrPeteChannel lolno
@@stargatecommand714 I mean, technically yeah.
@@Thorfinn_Son_Of_Thors in the same way the American revolutionaries could be considered terrorists.....
For the first time a storm trooper finally hit a target but also almost blew up a bunch of explosive material
With a tusken cycler rifle. A slugthrower of all weapons.
Mayfield is technically a ScoutTrooper
@@VolkovVelikan Not a scout, he wasn't in the Corps with the Stormtroopers. Based on what we know it seems he was an agent in one of the intelligence agencies or the regular Army, specialized in sniping.
@@alexissandoval1284 aren’t all sharpshooters scouts?
@@VolkovVelikan Nope. Imp Army Special Mission Troopers
Make me feel a little more supportive of the Empire? No my friend, those TIEs solidified my already existing absolute support for the Empire
Bill burr showed he was able to convey emotion masterfully, i truly saw his mind break down in his face in this episode.
If you think about it the moment the empire blew up Alderean they lost the war, Tarkin more or less was their undoing
Pretty much yeah. They instilled anger against a common enemy instead of fear.
@@neofulcrum5013 yeah it was basically the greatest recruitment tool the rebellion could ever hope for
That was a mining accident.
Palpatine said that if Tarkin had escaped the Death Star he would have executed him anyways.
I love when mando realizes he’s not in beskar, like wait I can actually get hurt now
Very cold, disgruntled introduction of the remnant empire in the series was a neat contrast.
Your empire needs you sign up today and serve your god-emperor, long live the empire.
I'm always rooting for the empire
The rebels were always performing reprehensible actions with using Alderaan for munitions production and brainwashing the Ewoks into getting blown up in suicide missions when the primitive hunters never got harmed by the imperial soldiers
@@Charlie94781 Facts
I feel its more like:
totalitarianism->political stability->economic growth->increase in standard of living->loyalty to the empire
Sounds no differences to CCP
Why in the world do any of you pretend the empire had political stability lol. The politicians were all military officers that killed each other for power and had constant infighting.
The acts of the empire against it's citizens and people were the very actions that caused more instability. Because suffering people want to stop suffering, and the empire caused much more suffering than good.
@@azure9809 galactic empire have a senate that are all just puppets of the emperor. if they are all puppets to the emperor, there would be no arguments between them. thats the political stability the empire referred to.i think you are referring to the competence between military officers but they are not killed by other officers but vader.
for the stability claim, i think it is totally propaganda to the citizens in the inner core systems. stability may also mean end of fighting in the outer rim if the people submit to the empire.
@@issackam3530 Dude. The Emperor destroyed the senate once he made the death star so he could have complete and total power lol.
@@azure9809 yes, the chaos of the senate is end since all senators are replaced by puppets. thats the stability the empire propaganda refers to. the senate is pretty much useless since then though. dismiss the senate or not make not much difference. the empire can even save some money on weapons rather than on the puppets that pretend that democracy still exists in the empire because emperor believed that no one could resist the empire with the death star activated.
There are three reasons that people will follow the Galactic Empire, one is that the Empire was a very powerful government that brought stability to several planets, two the Imperial propaganda machine was extremely effective in portraying the Galactic Empire as a positive force in the Galaxy, and the final reason is that the Galactic Empire was a vast organization that there would be several factions that will have similar ideologies and after the fall of the Galactic Empire they stayed loyal because of their ideology. Though several people will probably become demoralized after the destruction of the second Death Star and Operation Cinder will break the spirit of even the most loyal imperial soldiers.
There’s a great manga called Lost Stars from the imperial soldier side, great read
Lost stars is the teenager love drama that starwars just had to shove in the universe
What's that scene of the troopers pinned down with the one dude being a badass from? I can't remember. He shows it in the video around 1:35
I really like how the trooper were humans in this episode, and not some target practice
Long Live the Empire
Good to see OTish content on this channel
“Sadistic sack of sith” beautiful description
Din Djarin ain't gonna remove his Beskaar'Gaam ever again. Stormtrooper armour isn't so protective.
I hope he never removes his helmet again. I really dont like seeing him wothout the helmet, because while yes its just a small mando cult that follows that tradition, but it was part of his character that he was raised his whole life following that.
because if you say "no i dont wanna die for the empire" you get shot
Yep. Freedom of speech was not a thing in the empire’s mind.
Moff gideon and his death troopers after you say this: So then we started blasting
8:14-8:20: Just like Mayfeld said in the episode you do what you can to help yourself sleep at night. He was also right about people believing in different things which is why they did what they did, and how every fraction, even the good ones can have a darker side, like when he mentioned the war crimes committed by Mandalorians. Sure, Mando himself is a good guy, as are many Mandalorians we've come to know that are either good people or at least honorable people, like Jango when he led the protectors, Fen, Sabine, Bo-Katan and her Night Owls and so on. However, that doesn't change the fact that many Mandalorians especially when the clan was first founded were war crazed lunatics, and some still fear Mandalorians despite the good done by Mando and others, and Mando really should learn about his tribes past so he can take what did work and get ride of what didn't to create a new better clan of Mandalorians that aren't blood thirsty monsters.
Because the Empire WERE THE GOOD GUYS.
The rebels were terrorists
Peace! Freedom! Justice & Security!
The Empire is law. The rebellion is chaos. The Empire is just. The rebellion corrupt. Glory to the Empire, death to the rebels!
@@TheMrPeteChannel Peece fredum justic securiti
Richard Brake aka Joe Chill in Batman Begins out on an awesome creepy evil performance.
I would personally surrender or run away the first chance I got.
Pic goes well with your comment.
The Empire is just like RUclips.
Good evening, once again, about to head to bed, currently 11:18 EDT and using Geetsly’s voice as something to help me fall asleep lol.
Smooth like silk mate
My boy Bill Burr out here in Star Wars lmao
Its funny and ironic. I remember he made several jokes tearing into stat wars
@@ArckAngel75 Ysah lmao, I fucken died when I saw that he played a role in the series. I was like, "How in the hell did they manage to get him in the show?"
His wife actually egged him on into doing the show! He met Favreau at a birthday party!
@@geetslys And now he likes it.
It frustrates me how in the same episode they chose to humanize the troops of the empire, Miggs, the one who was talking about the loss of his brothers in arms, decided to kill every last trooper in that base at the end when he blew it up. He didn't stop to consider that maybe those troops were just like him for even a second? Maybe im wrong and they deserved it, but it certainly didn't feel that way. I thought the point of that scene where the troops were portrayed much the same as the rebels in the OT was to make the characters feel some amount of remorse for mindlessly slaughtering these men in the past and inevitably in the future, but instead they went out of their way to kill all of them. If you disagree lmk why but it bothered me personally
I think the reason for it was because the material they were mining was the same material used in operation cinder, an operation which obv bothered him so from his perspective it was a lesser evil
Doubtful every trooper was killed, the facility was shown to be still operating at the end, and parts of the base weren't even touched by the explosions.
@@Allen667sjja his perspective was incredibly flawed
@@alexissandoval1284 fair, but the point still stands, he killed a lot of troopers who were in essentially the same situation that he used to be in during operation cinder
Gee bringing law to galaxy at war with itself surely wouldn't get some support
I felt bad for that one beach trooper holding his coffe and then he got shot
Same! I felt so bad when they killed him!!! 😩😩😩
If it makes you feel better, most Stormtroopers are just knocked out by blaster bolts as their armour displaces it around their body, which stuns them rather than killing them. However he would have died when the refinery blew up..
This makes also brings back my disappointment in Battlefront 2s campaign for the main character going Rebel.
Long live the Empire.
Thanks for bringing back the old intro
“Hitlers come and go, the German people and the German state remain”
-Stalin
@Riso Yes, and it's not like the germans had done that to anyone else themselves... OH WAIT.
@@11Survivor We are not playing "who commited the worst warcrimes" here do we? Not many countries are free from blame on that particular front...
@Riso Nazi-ism isn't the tradition or culture of Germany. Never has been. It was the ideology of a weak pathetic human being that drew other weak and pathetic human beings together to pretend to be strong amidst the suffering and pain they caused the world.
The Nazis deserved to be crushed into a pulp beyond any form or recognition or salvaging. And so do all fascist regimes and movements.
Germany's doing just fine without Nazi-ism.
@Riso It's just odd how people say that, and when I look it up, it's always Nazi ideology and traditions that were, rightfully, shamed in such events.
@@azure9809 the nazis made one of their staples the tradition and history of the Allemenians and Germanic tribes that made up Northern Europe. Just read the first chapter of Hitlers book and you can understand
Last time I was this early I made a joke about being early
Good stuff! Nice intro
I love how it can be tied so perfectly to the military complex that many countries around the world rely on and place on such a pedestal.
Palpatine willing to destroy his own home world during Operation Cinder has got to be the biggest war crime
I'd really love for more videos like this one and I hope in the future Disney makes a show about just imperial grunts fighting the good fight like have them deployed to the outer rim to fight slavers or make a rebel band really dark and have them protects the local population from those rebel terrorists.
"Sadistic sack of Sith" lmao love yours vids mate please keep em coming
I could listen to this man talk about star wars for hours
One could argue that good and bad is subjective
I loved this episode, just goes to show, that the Empire wasn't so bad after all.
It's good to keep perspective when shown the humanity of those in the Empire. Not every rank and file soldier was pure evil, but they still gladly fought and died FOR pure evil...
"Just goes to show, that Nazi Germany wasn't so bad after all."
It's not really a fair comparison though, since the Empire committed far worse atrocities.
@@TheSuperRatt I disagree, 'Good and Evil are just words used by people in power or people in positions of power to justify their actions and or onto other people. More acts of evil are done in the name of good than in the name of evil. (Look at the Thirty Year War, and WW1, etc). The words 'good' and 'evil' are warped in interpretation and are subjective at face value. Also, no human holds the power of principality to what good or evil should be, again they're just words used by individuals holding power to propagandize their will or actions onto others. Lastly on your last point, It doesn't matter which side commits the most atrocities because peoples interpretations on the matter is subjective when tackling topics on morality and on what good and evil should be. I see the destruction of Alderaan a good thing because Tarkin reduced the crime and poverty rate to 0%.
But the whole episode revolves around the empire stockpiling fuel to glass civilizations
I wish I had seen this sooner. Please keep it up!
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I'm glad someone covered this topic. There's always 2 sides to a coin people say.
The second scene you mentioned made me feel like we were deep in enemy territory now, it was less "happy" and more "here we go." I did silent cheer at the first one though
I think this was one of the best episodes of Mando so far (IMO), because it added such a subtle depth to the universe/cannon. Across all of the SW media now, (rebels, originals, etc.) you sort of have to look at even fodder stormtroopers as 'real people' now. The stormtroopers have been used as mainly a tool to provide simple antagonism/ action for the main characters to overcome, but this single stroke of writing adds a new depth to the story of Star Wars as a whole- a war, between two sides of living beings fighting for values which they believe to be just and true. I feel like the story of the original trilogy was about good overcoming evil, but with an emphasis on bringing out the good within evil (Vader), and the prequels being evil within good (Anakin's fall to the dark side, the beloved chancellor actually being an evil Sith Lord, the Jedi being fallible.) They're mirrors, it's like poetry, they rhyme. (Repping my boi George yeah what)
As the story is moving forward as a franchise, it would be interesting to see that empathy and complexity extended into the common soldiers. Seeing the good within the empire (or at least the people who serve under it) and PERHAPS, even the evil within the rebellion.
(A few ideas is: that they really don't seem to empathize with stormtroopers at all, throwing them off of buildings, may I note NEVER choosing to stun over blast, which ironically the stormtroopers do quite frequently. The rebellion seems to have no problem just flat out killing anyone who opposes them, despite whoever may have been under the mask. Perhaps this is out of necessity, but a future series could perhaps explore this, just to add more depth to the universe. I'm not saying the rebellion is evil, but it would be interesting to see them painted in a negative light, even for an episode. Also, the destruction of the Death Star. I mean, countless lives were taken indiscriminately in the destruction of both Death Stars, repair crews, technicians, average grunts. From an imperial point of view, the rebels are essentially terrorists.
A show by AMC called Turn: Washingtons spies, focused on the American revolutionary war, did a great job of showing the mistakes of both sides. Growing up in the US, at least, in school we were always taught that the Patriots were the good guys (who never lie), and that was the end of the story. But there is a scene in the show where the patriots are in dire need of food to feed their army as they move forward through the war, and they end up killing a loyalist farmer and taking his crops. The farmers wife ends up hating the, in essence, rebellion. The side that has always been painted as the good guys is painted in a different, more complex light. It would be interesting to see something like this in Star Wars. Maybe the stormtroopers should be painted as ignorant, not evil. And maybe the rebellion should be painted as flawed and complicated, not a perfect embodiments of good.
However, moral relativism isn't necessarily good. Evil and Good are not the same. Evil takes the lives of innocent people, where as good in its ideal form, does not.
Star Wars in general, and this particular episode. really make the distinction that Good should triumph over Evil, as we saw with Mayfield ultimately making the decision to shoot the officer once he sees that; though he didn't see it in the average grunts, there is true malevolence in the empire that needs to be stopped. He sees there's a certain level of evil you can't reconcile with, and that you have to fight against. And that's an important message and distinction coming right after that epic "THE BOYS ARE HERE" moment with the tie fighters, and the following celebration, is quite a genius scene IMO. I think the Mando is a direct parallel to the storm troopers, because they are also not allowed to take off their helmets, which dehumanize them. Perhaps that speaks to the malevolence of palatine, with both the clones and the stormtroopers, he wanted an army of faceless and inhuman men to die for pointless wars of his own doing. Lots of complex stuff introduced into the cannon with a single episode!!!
I'm pretty sure that there would also be cases where some individuals considering defecting or questioning the Empire, 'mysteriously disappeared' if the higher up loyalists found out about it.
You missed two even more notable imperial defectors, I mean they really are the low hanging fruit, han and wedge.
Han never had loyalty it was always a means to an end.
First off long live the Empire also we can all agree that the empire had some of its most loyal soldiers i mean come on they kept fighting even after the fall 🤷🏻
You know, you could substitute the word "Empire" in this video with "The United States" and "the United states military" and it would still make 100% sense. Separatism, terrorism, what have you...
i just watched through the last few episodes of the 2nd season with my dad. We both loved this episode, and i feel those fighting for the empire specifically WEREN'T fighting for freedom but security, safety, and order cause at least in the beginning of the Empire that was what everyone wanted after the hell that was the Clone Wars for people
Yeah i totaly loved this episode and the finaly from the first season espacily the 5 minutes with the 2 scout troppers A:"why should we wait?" B:"well Moth gideon just executed a captin because he spoke" A:" ah yes tey are like that sometimes" B:" yeh they do so much for their big entrance", these 2 scouts + this base were really moments i was like "GO TROOPERS!!!!!"