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Did you do this video along with the other one at your other channel at the same time? I feel bad if you have a stressful schedule. Either way we're all happy that you're able to bring us content like this.
I have a question, why did Maul survive after being cut in half and falling down a massive shaft, yet Quigon died after being stabbed in the stomach and being attended by Obiwan? being cut in half is obviously more lethal than being stabbed
@@Daniel-ms9ks It was stated that his rage kept him alive. It actually worked against all logic. Even Darth Sion would be impressed; and that guy is literally just too angry to die.
in my opinion the tarkin doctrine has always had one HUGE glaring flaw. people who fear you will grow to hate you, and the longer that fear goes on the more they will hate you. that hate will cause unrest and eventually rebellion. so in my opinion the entire idea is ultimately self defeating.
Agreed. Eventually hatred and rage overcomes fear and people fight back, regardless of how scared they are. Honestly, Tarkin really wasn't as smart as he thought he was. I get the whole quantity vs quality arguements (although I still prefer quality most of the time over quantity.) but ripping away the Stormtroopers identities ironically probably damaged moral in the long run, especially when the Galactic Civil War heated up. Stormtroopers may be better trained than Rebels, but Rebels had way more to fight for.
The only way I can see it working was if it inspired fear in new ways. If it can keep up the fear by constantly utilizing new fear mechanisms then it would be able to work.
@@aidanrickord7790 but even then it probably wouldn’t be work. It’d eventually be like “turn on the radio and let’s hear what today calamity is” kind of mundane. People will stop giving a shit after some time of the fear cycle.
@@LoneSilverW0lf not if it’s potent enough. Fear is one of the strongest emotions as it is meant to keep species alive. If you can continuously abuse this fact by finding and exploiting a variety of different fear based variables the philosophy becomes viable.
I guess the point is, you must fear only if you are a rebel, but if you are a civilian, these guys are kinda protecting you All the fear ideology may work, loo at North Korea and all totalitarian countries in our world (and of course it's a piece of shit) Actually it will work in long term, but If you establish this order suddenly, people will resist
The bit about keeping their armour clean despite the tactical disadventage actualy reminds me of a Quote from 40K that fit pretty well to the train of thought: "The uniforms of the Imperial Guard are camouflaged in order to protect their wearers by hiding them from sight. The principle is that what the enemy cannot see he cannot kill. This is not the way of the Adeptus Astartes. A Space Marine’s armour is bright with heraldry that proclaims his devotion to his Chapter and the beloved Emperor of Mankind. Our principle is that what the enemy can see, he will soon learn to fear…" -Chaplain Aston, of the Fire Hawks 10th Company
To be fair, guardsmen aren't 8ft super soldiers who can take a beating and keep going, guardsmen are just normal people who fight the same shit space marines do
And even then the guardsmen regiments in general don't really take advantage of their *""camouflage""* or more muted colors. (atleast for most generic regiments) One. Because most of the time they're either using human wave tactics to overwhelm enemy positions or have waves of horrific monsters rushing their defenses making any bland color scheme virtually pointless. And two. Their primary infantryman weapon, the infamous *"lazguns",* basically and inherently tells enemies were fire is coming from with extremely visible lines of lasers, especially sense alot of the time the only way their weak arms are effective against many of their larger foes is in mass volleys of extremely bright lights, a crescendo of deadly beams, not even remotely subtle.
@@navilluscire2567 against the traitor marines the lasguns are weak due to the armor, it's made of ceramite which is stated to reflect the lasgun beams causing it to do little damage, not kidding against armor made from certain materials like the space marine's ceramite the lasgun stuggles cause of the materials reflective properties
In an ironic twist, the beings meant to replace clones became clones themselves. Not in genetics, but in the way they were supposed to act and look. The soldiers of the empire were individuals but they were taught to ignore all individuality.
Yet it was the unique personality of the Republic clones after earning their own "names"/ personality that was instrumental in saving so many people so many times. Ironic. The Emipre says clones are to susceptible to brainwashing. Yet push the stormtroopers to be more clone like. What a......."Tragedy"
Stormtroopers were individuals forced to ignore their individuality whilst clones were identical yet encouraged to embrace their differences and uniqueness.
I just had a theory. Now Tipoca City has been destroyed, what will happen when news gets out to clones across the galaxy? That was their home. We saw how eager they were to defend it from the Seppies. Could Rex’s clone rebellion accelerate in size now the Empire has replaced the clones with stormtroopers and destroyed their home?
Some would some wouldn’t, clearly some of them have the ability to rebel and that void still be a massive number, we have no idea what happens next but I do know that many will be retired as mentioned in rebels so the empire still gets away with a lot.
(Spoilers) I think we could potentially see the same scenario that took place on Ryloth where Captain Howzer was trying to convince his brothers that what the empire was doing wasn't too far off from what the separatists were doing. And some of the clones with working chips did agree with him and lay down arms but the majority still followed the empire.
Yep. All of that backstabbing helped to cripple the empire as well. With the most corrupt /conniving gaining important ranks, even though they may have not been fit for the job, while the best of them were stuck in lower ranking positions. Which had the effect of making some of them join the Rebellion.
@@ladygrey7425 It reminds me of an old factory job. We didn't get the most capable+ experienced group leaders, who were great at their jobs, We got the group leaders that were great at kissing the supervisor's ass.
Thats how the military functions, the enlisted ranks has an upper limit...the officer corps does not. Officers are constantly trying to claw above each other.
@@alessiodecarolis But didn't they establish it so the stormtrooper armor dissipates the energy of a blaster bolt that it rather incapacitates the wearer rather than killing them?
It's funny cause in Allegiance the ISB only ever used numbers. The Stormtroopers on the Star Destroyer were able use their names when off duty and even not wear the armor when in areas that weren't combat based, including the overlooks of the main Hanger Bay.
@@laisphinto6372 oh they are enforced, but the ship was commanded by Ozzel and he HATED the white armor. The Storm Trooper commander didn't want to keep his men stuck in the barracks so they made a compromise
It helps that their CO was bumbling idiot or possible traitor Kendal Ozzel who was actually scared of the Stormtrooper Armor. After all the Empire wasn't as tough, thorough or loyal to Palpatine as it made itself out to be.
They can, they just don't need to. As another comment says they can just jump or use force speed to cross vast distances. And floating requires insane amount of concentration for most jedi.
You know you've gone beyond dehumanising when even the imperium of man for 40K allows most customization and unit expression than you. Good job empire.
When imperial guard regiments are only seen as numbers and not even known to exist by some members of the imperial senate the Lords of terra the Lord commander militant or in some cases any member of the Adeptus administratum
@@BlackIce3190 that or its a written thing by george, i mean ever noticed how there isn't stormtroopers with uniqueness aside from their types and ranks?
Stormtrooper: I'm so confident I'll go out in that forest with my armour that you could see from a mile away and that me and my entire squad of troops will come out on top. Stormtrooper later: Damn. I'm dead.
You realize the colors of their armor was made to intimidate their enemies by making them seem like they aren’t scared of walking out into a battlefield with Snow White armor.
@@clonecoric4140 actually the main reason it was white is because storm troopers functioned more as a ship to ship boarding force, and internal policing forces, in one instance camo doesnt matter, and in the other you actually want visibility
And Palpatines Honor Guard took the devotion to the Emperor to even greater heights. Their final test was a duel to the death with a comrade they had trained with closely. And as seen with the case of Kir Kanos, each sliver of regret over what they've done would be punished very harshly.
It's actually similar to how armies in the past ran things. I remember watching a show about the military, where some supreme commander appointed his sons as generals. He absolutely forbade them from calling him "father" and ordered them to get out of his command post until they referred to him as their commander.
As much as I loathe to give the sequel trilogy credit for anything, the fact that Finn was able to overcome such a thorough and soul crushing indoctrination process makes his defection from the stormtrooper Corp all the more impressive and admirable.
:) True that. (I kinda liked Finn personally... Before the rest of the trilogy existed I was willing to see it as a mirror universe, or something...) (Again, personally...)
Does anyone know how many set of armor where made for the first film? Having all your troops with identical armor with a face concealing helmet, must have really help to keep the actual number low and just reuse the same ones over and over. Remember the first SW did not have the almost infinite budget the new ones do.
@@TheHawkeye0725 one is an ideological terror group, and the other is a well-trained well-funded army, I assumed it would be kind of like the current middle east war on terror shebang. But with more space and lasers.
Too bad most of the media that has come out fairly recently such as rebels and even mando depicts them as jokes lol. Never thought they were all that incompetent in the OT, would love to see them as a viable threat again.
to be fair... when you've got such a small cast of characters, you can't have them be major threats. After all, if they are to be major threats that could hit a fly on the opposite side of a canyon every time the characters encountered one, then the small cast isn't going to last very long. Rebels have the 6 main characters that are in in Imperial territory. They would definitely encounter enough stormtroopers that, if they were deadly accurate, the show would last for less than a season. Mandalorian is in a similar situation. There is basically 5 core characters, with only Mando and Grogu truly being mainstays with the others appearing at various points. If stormtroopers were made to be as much of threat as most people want them to be, the show wouldn't have lasted long enough for 2 season.
@@BenMan8881 I mean the OT had a small cast of characters and handled them perfectly. In the first film they are depicted very competently at the beginning (Tantive IV) and only begin missing shots on the Death Star after being ordered to let the rebels escape as Tarkington wanted to locate the rebel base by racking the falcon. Empire Strikes back does the same, Empire has a strong start on Hoth which did include ground forces (off screen) and ended with the troopers failing to stop the rebels from escaping cloud city. Vader also mentioned before though that the rebels were not to leave the city meaning it’s possible he wanted them alive. There were also only about 3 stormtrooper casualties during the cloud city escape as they were using cover while chasing the rebels unlike in mando where they just run out in the open and often don’t even shoot. Episode 6 may be one of the worst depictions but Endor was full of human eating natives giving them quite the advantage over imperial forces. The few biker scouts at the beginning of the Endor sequence even proved to be a bit of a problem for Luke Skywalker despite being ragdolled by a droid in mando. I’d also like to point out also that there are alternatives to storm troopers as seen by either navy or army troopers. Storm troopers are literally sent to reinforce the navy troopers on the Death Star after they were quickly overwhelmed by Han, Luke, and Chewie. The Stormtroopers quickly overwhelm the rebels making them go down the trash shoot. Even Solo, a Disney film had the audacity to show that army troopers are still a thing and continue to represent stormtroopers as incompetent. Shame as we may be getting Thrawn in post Endor cannon again, hopefully we see some competence from his forces.
I have a question, why did Maul survive after being cut in half and falling down a massive shaft, yet Quigon died after being stabbed in the stomach and being attended by Obiwan? being cut in half is obviously more lethal than being stabbed
The Sith can use their hate, pain, and fear to keep themselves alive. There was a dark lord way back in the Old Republic days that just wouldn't die no matter how many times you chop them up or shot him. I believe the Jedi that finally killed him had to get them to let go. And if you know anything about Darth Maul you know he really really really hates Kenobi.
These reasons is why the Stormtroopers were actually the "elite" forces. The regular conscripted forces are the Imperial Army (as seen in Solo) and had much lower standards and not as strict regulations. In Solo we see an officer refer to him by name not by number. So the Imperial Army is the lower quality soldiers while the Stormtroopers were much more trained and indoctrinated.
Hmm. I wonder how this relates to the anonymity of the internet. That is -- when people feel they are anonymous online, they feel more empowered to harass others or say/do controversial things that might otherwise get them backlash or a lasting reputation hit if people knew who they were. Would donning armor that basically makes you the same as a million other people do the same? Thereby enabling some of the worst of the abuses Stormtroopers might have heaped on others.
In the Galactic Empire, committing personal atrocities would be infinitely easier. So long as planets, societies, and races remained compliant with the New Galactic Order, no one cared about how you carried out the Emperor's will. Then again, your very life damn well depended on how you performed in the interest of the Empire. So basically, do whatever you want under the helmet so long as you make sure the Empire gets what it wants by you being it's "White Wave" so to speak. ╭∩╮(^.^)╭∩╮
Honestly I don't know how much anonymity is a part of it. Gonna get a wee bit political here but if you look up some of the ways Cops in America are trained (specifically things like "Warrior Training", and "Sheep/Wolf/Sheepdog" mentality) it's more about giving someone power over people with very few consequences for abuse of that power, while also instructing them that they inherently know better than most people.
@@kamalalsb7292 Mm, that theory sounds too much like the "power is everything" mentality to me, which doesn't take into account the many complexities of the human psyche or the job. There are subjects cops do know better than most people, like how to drive a car, grapple, or the complexities of the law. (And there are, of course, places they most certainly don't!) They are enforcers of the law, so they of course have some power over people, but they also cede power to their sheriffs, the courts, and the law-makers as a regular part of their job. They also cede power to their conscience, if they're good ones. So, no, I disagree.
This vid made me think of the French Foreign Legion. Men from all over the world enlist and give up their names (they are issued new ones), language (French is obviously used), nationality (the legions motto is "The Legion is our Fatherland") and to some degree their own self (all armies claim they break recruits to rebuild them) and as a result you get one of the most efficient fighting forces currently in existence that is often deployed in circumstances that no French officer would dare to risk deploying French nationals.
There no doubt that the High Ranking officials within the Galactic Empire must have written down these rules for the Stormtroopers and thought they were clever in the creating the rules, but they forgot one thing they foolishly thought that every single Stormtroopers will follow all these ridiculous rules. The Galactic Empire should realize that these rules will never create a functional unit without creating a sense animosity within individual squads, and considering that Units that have better unity fight better and give greater result if the units are more united.
@@TainyaGaming And yet the shortcomings are by far that has been proven from it. Real life examples of it is the kinds of "People's Army". Like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea's Army (North Korean Army). Indoctrination were a full time subject in their lives. Yet it becomes the weakness of them in form of delusions where their invincible based of their own ideology instead of reality. Indoctrination with the killing of creativity also limits the soldiers mind in solving problems and such. Wich that made the Stormtroopers predictable in almost every actions. "If they stick so much with their playbook, we'll just have to play within their playbook"
@@kertajaya6881 the N. Korean army, though heavily indoctrinated, is poorly trained and equipped. They are more to keep current leaders in power, in which they are highly successful, vice protecting N. korea and its citizens. The indoc of western special forces, who are highly skilled, intelligent and well equipped have much more success. As stated above by Tainya, indoctrination is a powerful tool. The lack of stormtrooper success is not based on any reality but due more to plot and storytelling.
For the record, at 3:40, *Echo* was actually the one who made the comment “It’s ironic. Clones wanted names instead of number, now people are lining up to be *given* numbers.” It wasn’t Hunter who said this, and I just want to make sure Echo gets the recognition he deserves.
The whole theory of the stormtrooper is honestly a terrifying thing when you really analyze it, it makes them seem like the perfect psychological weapon. Even if they aren’t the best soldiers, you can’t deny that they were definitely effective at what they did.
@@mojowwwav4357 I mean that's basically what happened in universe with the Rebel Alliance. Everybody was terrified of them, then a few cells started making attacks and showing they weren't so invulnerable as they pretend to be, causing the rebellion to spread like wildfire and snowball out of control
“Do the lives of your stormtroopers mean so little to you? Are you that mad?!” “Do the lives of your men mean so much to you rebel? Are you that weak?”
The Empire: how much intimidation do we have to use to keep order? the nature of sapient life itself: *laughs in infinite violence, chaos, and war crimes for all of existence itself*
That is basically Palpatine's major problem. When it came to working from the shadows and steadily acquiring power and influence he was phenomenal, amazing at it. But when it came to having ALL that POWER on full display, he basically indulged gleefully and without restraint in his normally *"keep in check"* extreme megalomania through having to rely on a more relaxed, chill, manipulative guise as first a senator and later supreme chancellor during his rise and once he became emperor he ended up *power tripping SO hard he ironically lost the power he so painstakingly built.*
In the real world units aka groups of soldiers are given nicknames relavent to their mission for ease of communication because during battle decisions have to made communicated and executed within seconds. Now let's compare this to the idiotically long ID numbers of the Stromtroopers and please do consider that they are required to use these numbers to identify themselves even during battle. (Nicknames Like "Echo-five" can be given to squads, battlions and even individual soldiers depending on the size and scope of the operation)
I kind of wish that the new shows and media depicted the Stormtroopers as the elite they are, and not the bumbling cannon fodder they're depicted as. But I guess you need a faceless bad guy instead of a normal Imperial Trooper that has a face and name.
It was a mistake both in Legends and Disney Canon to relegate the Imperial Army to a rump role. You have right there a perfect opportunity to depict the regular army as bumbling fools, while preserving the fear factor the Stormtrooper Corps. is supposed to instill. By the end of the day, Stormtroopers are just more recognizable to the average viewer than some dudes in space army fatigues. Such a shame they didn't talk more about the Imperial Army.
I won't listen to any critiques of the Empire unless people are going to denounce the terror attack on the Death Star and sign up for the military in order to defeat terrorism. Only when terrorism is defeated can we consider an end to the state of emergency. [Meme mocking the destruction of Alderaan]
The state of emergency was only extended after the Clone Wars to hunt down the Jedi. It should have ended years before the creation of the Rebel Alliance. And no, rebel cells would not be justification for a galaxy-wide state of emergency. Perhaps local ones, but the Empire would have no legal justification in maintaining Imperial garrisons and arresting anybody who disagreed with the Empire in territories with no rebel activity until the rebel cells became a rebel alliance. Not to mention the destruction of Alderaan just sends the wrong message to people. Destroying an entire planet with millions of civilians that was a well-known member of the former Imperial Senate? If Alderaan is supplying the rebels with ships and weapons, use the law for crying out loud. The destruction of Alderaan just ended up having the opposite effect of fear. As tragic as the large loss of life on the Death Star is, the rebels could at least say that they were attacking a legitimate military target that had begun a battle with them. Need I remind you that the Death Star was tested on a city full of innocent inhabitants? The galaxy does need order, unity, and a central government with a federal military, but that is not the Galactic Empire. Whole species were enslaved and some were even wiped out. The Geonosians are nearly extinct while the Kaminoans and clone troopers are now homeless. Punishing the many for the actions of the few makes no sense whatsoever. Of course just because of the things that made the Empire legal, the Rebel Alliance thought that the New Republic needed to be the opposite of this by having a military too small to keep the galaxy safe while making the senate as bureaucratic as the Old Republic senate. Sure the Empire was evil and all that, but if Mon Mothma wanted to avoid the issue of the Clone Wars again, she should have remembered that Palpatine took power with an army because the Republic did not have one. Thanks to the pacifists and the Anti-Imperials, they wasted all of the deaths in the Galactic Civil War. Why is it so hard to make a government with qualities from both the Republic and the Empire? How hard can that be!?
Okay, I love the thumbnail on this video. Ah, good old Gary the Stormtrooper, brought his daughter to work when they boarded the Tantive 4, accidentally burned down Owen and Bura's house when he started a fire in the bathroom because of the scented candles, almost crashed Death Star into a school, and finally accidentally ran over an Ewok. Ah, memories.
fascinating. I'd be interested to see a side-by-side of the psychological aspects of the droid (just b1) and stormtrooper armies and which army did that model better.
jokes on you, HKs do that better. as do the Darktroopers. *This is the part where a new faction of skeleton-shaped droids appears in a new droid uprising :)*
That could be considered unnerving for any group of Rebels. Beat a squad of stormtroopers and another comes into attack you. Exactly the same, no faces or expression and just as eager for battle... Remember, your not a Jedi, just some being with a blaster.
I hear in Legends that the Stormtroopers were the Elite but the Empire had a massive amount of less equipped troops. What was it like for those troops that were essentially rejects?
5:59 "Scout troopers weren't allowed to paint camouflage on their armor" How different would the battle of Endor have gone if the Empire weren't thus strict on uniform?
Well, Palpatine succeeded in making them appear inhuman.... When I was little and watched Star Wars for the first few times I always thought they were robots :D
"His name's Gary? I'm sorry, I'm confused. Are we doing MY story or are we just doing some random pointless-" *_fart noise_* "Ah... Welcome to Robot Chicken, apparently."
And to think, Luke Skywalker was planning to join the Imperial Stormtroopers as a way to get off the desolate rock that was Tatooine when his life's path crossed with that of R2D2 and C-3PO.
Did anyone else think for a second that he was talking about the Borg from Star Trek instead of the Empire? Y’know, the whole dehumanizing, stripping of individuality to obey a single person (mind)?
(Inspired from another comment) The Imperium of Mankind from 40k: *a massive xenophobic empire that let their soldiers customize their armor and give themselves a level of personality while being one of the many bad guys in the 40k universe* The Empire from Star Wars: *doesn't even let you use your birth name* And everyone sides with the Empire.
Were people who were recruited into the stormtrooper corps ever promoted outside of it to staff positions or naval personnel with actual uniforms instead of armor? and if so, did they get their names and identities back? we see higher ranked people with names instead of numbers but what about the bucketheads?
Admiral Daala started out as a Stormtrooper recruit and was being groomed to be a commander, when some idiot decided to transfer her to the naval program which she was completely unsuited for.
@@lordnorj She always seemed to be the type who belongs in a general staff than leading frontline fleets. She could come up with a good plan but executing said plan was a different story.
Reminds me alot of the Japanese Empire and the tactics they used during WWII. So homicidal and suicidal and based in “Honour” but actually being the most Dishonorable, all in the name of their Emperor.
"How they were made," Good, yes. "what they did in their downtime," Oh interesting, go on. "to what their sex lives were like." *falls out of my fucking chair*
Nice video about the lives of Stormtroopers, Geetsly! I'm curious though, would you be open to the idea of making an specific video about Clone Ordnance Specialists? They're among the most obscure of clonetrooper types, so it would be nice to give them a shoutout if possible.
Geetsly: “We’ve exhaustedly covered the daily lives of clone troopers on this channel before, from how they where made to how they spent their downtime to what their sex lives were like” “Hey threes, do you think masterbation is gay?”
I never got a sense of any of this from the movies. In A New Hope we see them just chit chatting and hanging out, seem like fairly normal dudes under the armour.
This is why the imperium of man's tempestus scions are the best no terrible armor Very good laser weapons that makes stormtroopers green with envy Really not afraid of the galaxies horrors
You´re comparing an army solely designed to strike fear into their own civilians and supress rebellions, to an army trained and equiped to kill every enemy in the most effectiv way possible on a battlefield.
I read somewhere that storm troopers were based off the Nazi secret police. This further drives that home. Dehumanization of soldiers was the exact thing the Nazi regime was going for with their army. Same desired effect too.
That's actually wrong, German officers and regular soldiers were very independent and officers were encouraged to get to know their men by talking to them about themselves and so on. Not sure where you got that from dude
@@duckygaming3536 Yeah, it's sad to see people project assumptions onto history because of the pop-cultural tropes based upon said history. No offense to Zezous here but the German military was nothing like what you see in hollywood or video games. It's understandable though, they're media's favorite "villains" so of course people will project all their personal ideas and expectations of evil onto what basically amounted to ordinary men risking their lives for their families & Nation. Not some soulless mob of frenzied beasts.
It wasn't just Allied propaganda, it was Germany's propaganda. The goose stepping and snappy uniforms were parts of a carefully crafted image. Of course the German soldier wasn't constantly on parade. He drank, smoked, told jokes, sang songs, complained, and wrote letters home as soldiers have done for generations before and after. Dehumanization is for the enemy, not your buddies and beloved country.
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Did you do this video along with the other one at your other channel at the same time? I feel bad if you have a stressful schedule. Either way we're all happy that you're able to bring us content like this.
I have a question, why did Maul survive after being cut in half and falling down a massive shaft, yet Quigon died after being stabbed in the stomach and being attended by Obiwan? being cut in half is obviously more lethal than being stabbed
Jedi can lift objects and even people, so why can't Jedi use the force to levitate themselves and fly?
@@Daniel-ms9ks It was stated that his rage kept him alive. It actually worked against all logic. Even Darth Sion would be impressed; and that guy is literally just too angry to die.
@@Daniel-ms9ks his hate kept him alive, same with vader. That's why he actually died, he let go of the dark side.
*Stormtrooper's Rule #1:* Listen and enjoy "Empire Today" every morning before going to work
What to do in a zombie outbreak scenario?
This isn't accurate... it was more before going to bed rather than before going to work.
@@Nolongerhereanymore Listen to the metal remix of "Empire Today" while slaying the infected pests out of the hallways.
588-2300 Empire, today
@@TS-7864 who says it wasn't both
in my opinion the tarkin doctrine has always had one HUGE glaring flaw. people who fear you will grow to hate you, and the longer that fear goes on the more they will hate you. that hate will cause unrest and eventually rebellion. so in my opinion the entire idea is ultimately self defeating.
Agreed. Eventually hatred and rage overcomes fear and people fight back, regardless of how scared they are. Honestly, Tarkin really wasn't as smart as he thought he was. I get the whole quantity vs quality arguements (although I still prefer quality most of the time over quantity.) but ripping away the Stormtroopers identities ironically probably damaged moral in the long run, especially when the Galactic Civil War heated up. Stormtroopers may be better trained than Rebels, but Rebels had way more to fight for.
The only way I can see it working was if it inspired fear in new ways. If it can keep up the fear by constantly utilizing new fear mechanisms then it would be able to work.
@@aidanrickord7790 but even then it probably wouldn’t be work. It’d eventually be like “turn on the radio and let’s hear what today calamity is” kind of mundane. People will stop giving a shit after some time of the fear cycle.
@@LoneSilverW0lf not if it’s potent enough. Fear is one of the strongest emotions as it is meant to keep species alive. If you can continuously abuse this fact by finding and exploiting a variety of different fear based variables the philosophy becomes viable.
I guess the point is, you must fear only if you are a rebel, but if you are a civilian, these guys are kinda protecting you
All the fear ideology may work, loo at North Korea and all totalitarian countries in our world (and of course it's a piece of shit)
Actually it will work in long term, but If you establish this order suddenly, people will resist
The bit about keeping their armour clean despite the tactical disadventage actualy reminds me of a Quote from 40K that fit pretty well to the train of thought:
"The uniforms of the Imperial Guard are camouflaged in order to protect their wearers by hiding them from sight.
The principle is that what the enemy cannot see he cannot kill. This is not the way of the Adeptus Astartes. A Space Marine’s armour is bright with heraldry that proclaims his devotion to his Chapter and the beloved Emperor of Mankind. Our principle is that what the enemy can see, he will soon learn to fear…" -Chaplain Aston, of the Fire Hawks 10th Company
To be fair, guardsmen aren't 8ft super soldiers who can take a beating and keep going, guardsmen are just normal people who fight the same shit space marines do
@@goldietheswagbear8288 and with vastly inferior weaponry as well.
And even then the guardsmen regiments in general don't really take advantage of their *""camouflage""* or more muted colors. (atleast for most generic regiments)
One. Because most of the time they're either using human wave tactics to overwhelm enemy positions or have waves of horrific monsters rushing their defenses making any bland color scheme virtually pointless.
And two. Their primary infantryman weapon, the infamous *"lazguns",* basically and inherently tells enemies were fire is coming from with extremely visible lines of lasers, especially sense alot of the time the only way their weak arms are effective against many of their larger foes is in mass volleys of extremely bright lights, a crescendo of deadly beams, not even remotely subtle.
Does that work well against all the horrible demons and stuff? Feels like it wouldn't.
@@navilluscire2567 against the traitor marines the lasguns are weak due to the armor, it's made of ceramite which is stated to reflect the lasgun beams causing it to do little damage, not kidding against armor made from certain materials like the space marine's ceramite the lasgun stuggles cause of the materials reflective properties
In an ironic twist, the beings meant to replace clones became clones themselves. Not in genetics, but in the way they were supposed to act and look. The soldiers of the empire were individuals but they were taught to ignore all individuality.
Yet it was the unique personality of the Republic clones after earning their own "names"/ personality that was instrumental in saving so many people so many times. Ironic. The Emipre says clones are to susceptible to brainwashing. Yet push the stormtroopers to be more clone like. What a......."Tragedy"
Stormtroopers were individuals forced to ignore their individuality whilst clones were identical yet encouraged to embrace their differences and uniqueness.
I just had a theory. Now Tipoca City has been destroyed, what will happen when news gets out to clones across the galaxy? That was their home. We saw how eager they were to defend it from the Seppies. Could Rex’s clone rebellion accelerate in size now the Empire has replaced the clones with stormtroopers and destroyed their home?
Well I don’t expect all the clones too but if NONE rebelled at all, that would be a crying shame.
Only the ones who’s chips aren’t working would care lol
Some would some wouldn’t, clearly some of them have the ability to rebel and that void still be a massive number, we have no idea what happens next but I do know that many will be retired as mentioned in rebels so the empire still gets away with a lot.
(Spoilers) I think we could potentially see the same scenario that took place on Ryloth where Captain Howzer was trying to convince his brothers that what the empire was doing wasn't too far off from what the separatists were doing.
And some of the clones with working chips did agree with him and lay down arms but the majority still followed the empire.
Bruh this same comment on like every star wars video
Meanwhile, Officers are out to get each other to get a promotion.
And then get killed by Vader…
Yep. All of that backstabbing helped to cripple the empire as well.
With the most corrupt /conniving gaining important ranks, even though they may have not been fit for the job, while the best of them were stuck in lower ranking positions.
Which had the effect of making some of them join the Rebellion.
@@dustinmaxwell259 Gee, it's like a hyper-Social Darwinist philosophy ultimately fucks you over in the long-term.
@@ladygrey7425 It reminds me of an old factory job.
We didn't get the most capable+ experienced group leaders, who were great at their jobs,
We got the group leaders that were great at kissing the supervisor's ass.
Thats how the military functions, the enlisted ranks has an upper limit...the officer corps does not. Officers are constantly trying to claw above each other.
I'm still processing how Clones are getting replaced and how Kamino has been decommissioned
well they are expensive and they thought nobody will stop them so they used weak but loyal conscripts
Ahem!… I think you mean “destroyed”
It makes no sense, they could have just scaled down like in legends, it’s happening unrealistically fast
@@L3oT1g3r- wow. You managed to ruin a joke whilst thinking you were funny. How sad.
@@SupaSillyThyme where’s the joke??? Who’s trying to be funny??? Can’t say me because I didn’t say anything funny…?
Interestingly the stormtroopers facelessness made it easier for people to kill them as they wouldn't recognize them as people
This was George Lucas' ideas, so people would'vent been concerned about the heroes killing swates of them
@@alessiodecarolis But didn't they establish it so the stormtrooper armor dissipates the energy of a blaster bolt that it rather incapacitates the wearer rather than killing them?
@@mihan2d That's because people complained later that the supposedly elite troops armour didn't seem to do anything. It's a retroactive explanation.
@@zigzaghyena Lol the entire Star Wars universe canon is pretty much made from retroactive filling of plot holes
@@mihan2d You call it a plot hole, Star Wars calls it an opportunity for future lore entries.
Clonetroopers:
Fives: "Hey Echo! Can't believe we're ARC Troopers now!"😏
Echo: "Tell me about it Fives! We went from regs to ARCS!"😏
Stormtroopers:😑
Nova trooper: 😎
It's funny cause in Allegiance the ISB only ever used numbers. The Stormtroopers on the Star Destroyer were able use their names when off duty and even not wear the armor when in areas that weren't combat based, including the overlooks of the main Hanger Bay.
The laws were only probably enforced in the core worlds and in contact with civilians but other than that not really
@@laisphinto6372 oh they are enforced, but the ship was commanded by Ozzel and he HATED the white armor. The Storm Trooper commander didn't want to keep his men stuck in the barracks so they made a compromise
It helps that their CO was bumbling idiot or possible traitor Kendal Ozzel who was actually scared of the Stormtrooper Armor. After all the Empire wasn't as tough, thorough or loyal to Palpatine as it made itself out to be.
Jedi can lift objects and even people, so why can't Jedi use the force to levitate themselves and fly?
Because helicopter lightsabers were a thing.
No tactical advantage to flight when some jedi can just jump miles
They can, they just don't need to. As another comment says they can just jump or use force speed to cross vast distances. And floating requires insane amount of concentration for most jedi.
They can, its called force jumping
@@Space_Man909 what about force flying
You know you've gone beyond dehumanising when even the imperium of man for 40K allows most customization and unit expression than you. Good job empire.
When imperial guard regiments are only seen as numbers and not even known to exist by some members of the imperial senate the Lords of terra the Lord commander militant or in some cases any member of the Adeptus administratum
Stormtrooper: what do you have that I don’t?
Guardsmen: a name, a bayonet, an emperor that cares and ever so slightly more common sense.
This is trash Disney writers trying too hard.
@@BlackIce3190 that or its a written thing by george, i mean ever noticed how there isn't stormtroopers with uniqueness aside from their types and ranks?
Deathkorps: *[muffeled gasmask noises]*
When I saw that thumbnail I instantly thought of Gary The Stormtrooper from Robot Chicken.
LMAO was about to say the same
Honestly the reason why I clicked😅
A good topic for an April Fool's episode!
Stormtrooper: I'm so confident I'll go out in that forest with my armour that you could see from a mile away and that me and my entire squad of troops will come out on top.
Stormtrooper later: Damn. I'm dead.
Empire: falls apart
Imperial Remnant and other smaller factions: oh hey you guys can use camo now, we can't afford to lose you
You realize the colors of their armor was made to intimidate their enemies by making them seem like they aren’t scared of walking out into a battlefield with Snow White armor.
@@friedrichfazbear5469 yes, that's kinda the joke.
@@clonecoric4140 actually the main reason it was white is because storm troopers functioned more as a ship to ship boarding force, and internal policing forces, in one instance camo doesnt matter, and in the other you actually want visibility
@@squgieman I know.
And Palpatines Honor Guard took the devotion to the Emperor to even greater heights.
Their final test was a duel to the death with a comrade they had trained with closely.
And as seen with the case of Kir Kanos, each sliver of regret over what they've done would be punished very harshly.
It's actually similar to how armies in the past ran things. I remember watching a show about the military, where some supreme commander appointed his sons as generals. He absolutely forbade them from calling him "father" and ordered them to get out of his command post until they referred to him as their commander.
As much as I loathe to give the sequel trilogy credit for anything, the fact that Finn was able to overcome such a thorough and soul crushing indoctrination process makes his defection from the stormtrooper Corp all the more impressive and admirable.
:) True that. (I kinda liked Finn personally... Before the rest of the trilogy existed I was willing to see it as a mirror universe, or something...) (Again, personally...)
Does anyone know how many set of armor where made for the first film? Having all your troops with identical armor with a face concealing helmet, must have really help to keep the actual number low and just reuse the same ones over and over. Remember the first SW did not have the almost infinite budget the new ones do.
Not only that, but for certain scenes they simply painted them in rather then used people.
@@GoryGlory yeah, paintings and cardboard cutouts were used a lot. Iirc, only around 20-30 stormtrooper costumes were made for the first film.
You should cover more about the Mandalorian Civil War between Death Watch and the True Mandalorians
Here, here!! More on Jester's Legacy and the True Mandos🤨
I want more jaster, jango, as well as skirata and the other clans that were part of the true mandalorians.
I’d actually like to see how they fought wars against each other
@@TheHawkeye0725 one is an ideological terror group, and the other is a well-trained well-funded army, I assumed it would be kind of like the current middle east war on terror shebang. But with more space and lasers.
One major flaw with making your troops interchangeable drones with full-body armor is that it's incredibly easy to impersonate them...
Too bad most of the media that has come out fairly recently such as rebels and even mando depicts them as jokes lol. Never thought they were all that incompetent in the OT, would love to see them as a viable threat again.
to be fair... when you've got such a small cast of characters, you can't have them be major threats. After all, if they are to be major threats that could hit a fly on the opposite side of a canyon every time the characters encountered one, then the small cast isn't going to last very long. Rebels have the 6 main characters that are in in Imperial territory. They would definitely encounter enough stormtroopers that, if they were deadly accurate, the show would last for less than a season. Mandalorian is in a similar situation. There is basically 5 core characters, with only Mando and Grogu truly being mainstays with the others appearing at various points. If stormtroopers were made to be as much of threat as most people want them to be, the show wouldn't have lasted long enough for 2 season.
@@BenMan8881 I mean the OT had a small cast of characters and handled them perfectly. In the first film they are depicted very competently at the beginning (Tantive IV) and only begin missing shots on the Death Star after being ordered to let the rebels escape as Tarkington wanted to locate the rebel base by racking the falcon. Empire Strikes back does the same, Empire has a strong start on Hoth which did include ground forces (off screen) and ended with the troopers failing to stop the rebels from escaping cloud city. Vader also mentioned before though that the rebels were not to leave the city meaning it’s possible he wanted them alive. There were also only about 3 stormtrooper casualties during the cloud city escape as they were using cover while chasing the rebels unlike in mando where they just run out in the open and often don’t even shoot. Episode 6 may be one of the worst depictions but Endor was full of human eating natives giving them quite the advantage over imperial forces. The few biker scouts at the beginning of the Endor sequence even proved to be a bit of a problem for Luke Skywalker despite being ragdolled by a droid in mando. I’d also like to point out also that there are alternatives to storm troopers as seen by either navy or army troopers. Storm troopers are literally sent to reinforce the navy troopers on the Death Star after they were quickly overwhelmed by Han, Luke, and Chewie. The Stormtroopers quickly overwhelm the rebels making them go down the trash shoot. Even Solo, a Disney film had the audacity to show that army troopers are still a thing and continue to represent stormtroopers as incompetent. Shame as we may be getting Thrawn in post Endor cannon again, hopefully we see some competence from his forces.
There just came "If Stormtroopers were accurate" vid on youtube. Check that and you see how fast the first movie is.
I have a question, why did Maul survive after being cut in half and falling down a massive shaft, yet Quigon died after being stabbed in the stomach and being attended by Obiwan? being cut in half is obviously more lethal than being stabbed
Maul survived from his shear hatred of Obi-Wan. The sith are fueled by hate
And Jedi are trained to just let go
@@captainfordo1
Obi-wan: “die”
Maul:angy
The Sith can use their hate, pain, and fear to keep themselves alive. There was a dark lord way back in the Old Republic days that just wouldn't die no matter how many times you chop them up or shot him. I believe the Jedi that finally killed him had to get them to let go. And if you know anything about Darth Maul you know he really really really hates Kenobi.
You can ask the same question how Anakin survived being burned and lose his limbs, which could have killed most people. The dark side kept him alive.
At least we had the one Stormtrooper who stood up to Vader, sassed Palpatine, and actually lived. Our good friend, Gary
These reasons is why the Stormtroopers were actually the "elite" forces. The regular conscripted forces are the Imperial Army (as seen in Solo) and had much lower standards and not as strict regulations. In Solo we see an officer refer to him by name not by number. So the Imperial Army is the lower quality soldiers while the Stormtroopers were much more trained and indoctrinated.
I always think of it as similar to the difference between the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS.
Hmm. I wonder how this relates to the anonymity of the internet. That is -- when people feel they are anonymous online, they feel more empowered to harass others or say/do controversial things that might otherwise get them backlash or a lasting reputation hit if people knew who they were. Would donning armor that basically makes you the same as a million other people do the same? Thereby enabling some of the worst of the abuses Stormtroopers might have heaped on others.
In the Galactic Empire, committing personal atrocities would be infinitely easier. So long as planets, societies, and races remained compliant with the New Galactic Order, no one cared about how you carried out the Emperor's will. Then again, your very life damn well depended on how you performed in the interest of the Empire. So basically, do whatever you want under the helmet so long as you make sure the Empire gets what it wants by you being it's "White Wave" so to speak. ╭∩╮(^.^)╭∩╮
Honestly I don't know how much anonymity is a part of it. Gonna get a wee bit political here but if you look up some of the ways Cops in America are trained (specifically things like "Warrior Training", and "Sheep/Wolf/Sheepdog" mentality) it's more about giving someone power over people with very few consequences for abuse of that power, while also instructing them that they inherently know better than most people.
@@kamalalsb7292 Mm, that theory sounds too much like the "power is everything" mentality to me, which doesn't take into account the many complexities of the human psyche or the job. There are subjects cops do know better than most people, like how to drive a car, grapple, or the complexities of the law. (And there are, of course, places they most certainly don't!) They are enforcers of the law, so they of course have some power over people, but they also cede power to their sheriffs, the courts, and the law-makers as a regular part of their job. They also cede power to their conscience, if they're good ones. So, no, I disagree.
This vid made me think of the French Foreign Legion.
Men from all over the world enlist and give up their names (they are issued new ones), language (French is obviously used), nationality (the legions motto is "The Legion is our Fatherland") and to some degree their own self (all armies claim they break recruits to rebuild them) and as a result you get one of the most efficient fighting forces currently in existence that is often deployed in circumstances that no French officer would dare to risk deploying French nationals.
Never thought if it like that all fighting for france I mean potential legionnaires have to learn french
There no doubt that the High Ranking officials within the Galactic Empire must have written down these rules for the Stormtroopers and thought they were clever in the creating the rules, but they forgot one thing they foolishly thought that every single Stormtroopers will follow all these ridiculous rules. The Galactic Empire should realize that these rules will never create a functional unit without creating a sense animosity within individual squads, and considering that Units that have better unity fight better and give greater result if the units are more united.
I mean indoctrination is a pretty effective tool.
@@TainyaGaming And yet the shortcomings are by far that has been proven from it.
Real life examples of it is the kinds of "People's Army". Like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea's Army (North Korean Army).
Indoctrination were a full time subject in their lives. Yet it becomes the weakness of them in form of delusions where their invincible based of their own ideology instead of reality.
Indoctrination with the killing of creativity also limits the soldiers mind in solving problems and such. Wich that made the Stormtroopers predictable in almost every actions.
"If they stick so much with their playbook, we'll just have to play within their playbook"
@@kertajaya6881 the N. Korean army, though heavily indoctrinated, is poorly trained and equipped. They are more to keep current leaders in power, in which they are highly successful, vice protecting N. korea and its citizens.
The indoc of western special forces, who are highly skilled, intelligent and well equipped have much more success.
As stated above by Tainya, indoctrination is a powerful tool.
The lack of stormtrooper success is not based on any reality but due more to plot and storytelling.
Now you realize the type of shit we deal with on a basis?
@@ScoutTrooperMan yep, how's it like getting shot and lose multiple times? ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )
For the record, at 3:40, *Echo* was actually the one who made the comment “It’s ironic. Clones wanted names instead of number, now people are lining up to be *given* numbers.”
It wasn’t Hunter who said this, and I just want to make sure Echo gets the recognition he deserves.
The whole theory of the stormtrooper is honestly a terrifying thing when you really analyze it, it makes them seem like the perfect psychological weapon. Even if they aren’t the best soldiers, you can’t deny that they were definitely effective at what they did.
@@mojowwwav4357 I mean that's basically what happened in universe with the Rebel Alliance. Everybody was terrified of them, then a few cells started making attacks and showing they weren't so invulnerable as they pretend to be, causing the rebellion to spread like wildfire and snowball out of control
“Do the lives of your stormtroopers mean so little to you? Are you that mad?!”
“Do the lives of your men mean so much to you rebel? Are you that weak?”
I like how in the thumbnail the TK number was the one that Han used in a new hope.
The Empire: how much intimidation do we have to use to keep order?
the nature of sapient life itself: *laughs in infinite violence, chaos, and war crimes for all of existence itself*
Seeing that stormtrooper in an X-wing, hurt my brain.
Palpatine knows how to create a fascist society but he sure as hell doesn’t know how to run a military
I’m a political leader not a military one!
Reminds me of the orange menace
@@JackTheShadowMuncher should leave your generals for leading your military they have been trained to do so. Might get em nextime buddy.
That is basically Palpatine's major problem. When it came to working from the shadows and steadily acquiring power and influence he was phenomenal, amazing at it. But when it came to having ALL that POWER on full display, he basically indulged gleefully and without restraint in his normally *"keep in check"* extreme megalomania through having to rely on a more relaxed, chill, manipulative guise as first a senator and later supreme chancellor during his rise and once he became emperor he ended up *power tripping SO hard he ironically lost the power he so painstakingly built.*
Even the Imperium of Man treats their guardsman better, than the stormtroopers are treated.
That says alot considering what the 40k universe is.
Pirates like Hondo treats his pirates better than storm troopers
Gary! Always loved Gary the stormtrooper on robot chicken
Stormtroopers had to be a specific height? Well that explains why Leia asked "Aren't you a bit short for a stormtrooper?" in A New Hope
Love the thumbnail. TK-421, classic Star Wars, and Gary, totally Robot Chicken
In the real world units aka groups of soldiers are given nicknames relavent to their mission for ease of communication because during battle decisions have to made communicated and executed within seconds.
Now let's compare this to the idiotically long ID numbers of the Stromtroopers and please do consider that they are required to use these numbers to identify themselves even during battle.
(Nicknames Like "Echo-five" can be given to squads, battlions and even individual soldiers depending on the size and scope of the operation)
I kind of wish that the new shows and media depicted the Stormtroopers as the elite they are, and not the bumbling cannon fodder they're depicted as.
But I guess you need a faceless bad guy instead of a normal Imperial Trooper that has a face and name.
It was a mistake both in Legends and Disney Canon to relegate the Imperial Army to a rump role. You have right there a perfect opportunity to depict the regular army as bumbling fools, while preserving the fear factor the Stormtrooper Corps. is supposed to instill. By the end of the day, Stormtroopers are just more recognizable to the average viewer than some dudes in space army fatigues. Such a shame they didn't talk more about the Imperial Army.
I was showing my younger friend this and when you said sex life he was like “WAAAAAAT”
I won't listen to any critiques of the Empire unless people are going to denounce the terror attack on the Death Star and sign up for the military in order to defeat terrorism. Only when terrorism is defeated can we consider an end to the state of emergency.
[Meme mocking the destruction of Alderaan]
The state of emergency was only extended after the Clone Wars to hunt down the Jedi. It should have ended years before the creation of the Rebel Alliance. And no, rebel cells would not be justification for a galaxy-wide state of emergency. Perhaps local ones, but the Empire would have no legal justification in maintaining Imperial garrisons and arresting anybody who disagreed with the Empire in territories with no rebel activity until the rebel cells became a rebel alliance. Not to mention the destruction of Alderaan just sends the wrong message to people. Destroying an entire planet with millions of civilians that was a well-known member of the former Imperial Senate? If Alderaan is supplying the rebels with ships and weapons, use the law for crying out loud. The destruction of Alderaan just ended up having the opposite effect of fear. As tragic as the large loss of life on the Death Star is, the rebels could at least say that they were attacking a legitimate military target that had begun a battle with them. Need I remind you that the Death Star was tested on a city full of innocent inhabitants? The galaxy does need order, unity, and a central government with a federal military, but that is not the Galactic Empire. Whole species were enslaved and some were even wiped out. The Geonosians are nearly extinct while the Kaminoans and clone troopers are now homeless. Punishing the many for the actions of the few makes no sense whatsoever. Of course just because of the things that made the Empire legal, the Rebel Alliance thought that the New Republic needed to be the opposite of this by having a military too small to keep the galaxy safe while making the senate as bureaucratic as the Old Republic senate. Sure the Empire was evil and all that, but if Mon Mothma wanted to avoid the issue of the Clone Wars again, she should have remembered that Palpatine took power with an army because the Republic did not have one. Thanks to the pacifists and the Anti-Imperials, they wasted all of the deaths in the Galactic Civil War. Why is it so hard to make a government with qualities from both the Republic and the Empire? How hard can that be!?
@@tristankawatsuma8962 I dunno man, *sounds a bit like rebel propaganda to me*
@@tristankawatsuma8962 Mhmm yh this makes sense...*forwards comment to ISB*
Okay, I love the thumbnail on this video. Ah, good old Gary the Stormtrooper, brought his daughter to work when they boarded the Tantive 4, accidentally burned down Owen and Bura's house when he started a fire in the bathroom because of the scented candles, almost crashed Death Star into a school, and finally accidentally ran over an Ewok. Ah, memories.
fascinating. I'd be interested to see a side-by-side of the psychological aspects of the droid (just b1) and stormtrooper armies and which army did that model better.
jokes on you, HKs do that better.
as do the Darktroopers.
*This is the part where a new faction of skeleton-shaped droids appears in a new droid uprising :)*
Two dislike: Are we blind?!...... Deploy the garrison
Well at least The Empire let their troopers have "Take Your Daughter To Work" day. Good job Gary.
I think a line from Star Wars: “is that you tk21?”
Tk421 is a weird origin
The Empire's military was it's biggest weakness.
tarkin- let's make everyone so afraid of the empire that they think "we have to destroy those homicidal lunatics before we're next" wait a second.....
That could be considered unnerving for any group of Rebels. Beat a squad of stormtroopers and another comes into attack you. Exactly the same, no faces or expression and just as eager for battle... Remember, your not a Jedi, just some being with a blaster.
9:51 that is by far my favorite picture of a stormtrooper.
Given what we saw in Allegiance, I get the feeling this ideal wasn't nearly as absolute.
I hear in Legends that the Stormtroopers were the Elite but the Empire had a massive amount of less equipped troops. What was it like for those troops that were essentially rejects?
This just proves that Clone Troopers are more superior than Stormtroopers
I personally think stormtroopers are cooler
@@pope2552 And you’re entitled to your opinion. I just like clones better because
For genocides and war crimes you call in the clones yes
Clones over Stormtroopers any day.
@@DonnyDougherty clones feel very overdone and I like the mystery of the stormtroopers. I love both, but the Grand Army is less interesting
I love how u referenced Gary the stormtrooper.
The 'tk' in the thumbnail was a nice touch!
Prove you're not a Stormtrooper and share a chuckle that I hit the 69th Thumbs-Up.
LOL how Gary just has a full plate of chocolate chip cookies and blue liquid.
The clones were enslaved and forced to fight in a bloody war. The bar was on the fucking ground, and the Empire decided to dig under it.
5:59 "Scout troopers weren't allowed to paint camouflage on their armor"
How different would the battle of Endor have gone if the Empire weren't thus strict on uniform?
Well, Palpatine succeeded in making them appear inhuman.... When I was little and watched Star Wars for the first few times I always thought they were robots :D
Bro I’ve got it, the reason why storm troopers always miss is because they’re intentionally missing because they are secretly routing for them.
Good to see Gary's still around
"His name's Gary? I'm sorry, I'm confused. Are we doing MY story or are we just doing some random pointless-"
*_fart noise_*
"Ah... Welcome to Robot Chicken, apparently."
And to think, Luke Skywalker was planning to join the Imperial Stormtroopers as a way to get off the desolate rock that was Tatooine when his life's path crossed with that of R2D2 and C-3PO.
Did anyone else think for a second that he was talking about the Borg from Star Trek instead of the Empire? Y’know, the whole dehumanizing, stripping of individuality to obey a single person (mind)?
(Inspired from another comment)
The Imperium of Mankind from 40k: *a massive xenophobic empire that let their soldiers customize their armor and give themselves a level of personality while being one of the many bad guys in the 40k universe*
The Empire from Star Wars: *doesn't even let you use your birth name*
And everyone sides with the Empire.
Were people who were recruited into the stormtrooper corps ever promoted outside of it to staff positions or naval personnel with actual uniforms instead of armor? and if so, did they get their names and identities back? we see higher ranked people with names instead of numbers but what about the bucketheads?
Most likely yes because how come they have stormtrooper commanders and high officers in the stormtrooper Corp
Admiral Daala started out as a Stormtrooper recruit and was being groomed to be a commander, when some idiot decided to transfer her to the naval program which she was completely unsuited for.
Yes - you can see a stormtrooper officer in a black officer's uniform at the start of A New Hope, in fact
@@lordnorj
She always seemed to be the type who belongs in a general staff than leading frontline fleets. She could come up with a good plan but executing said plan was a different story.
there are plenty of instances of stormtroopers having their humanity, they could even live normal lives
Despite the multiple downsides of being a stormtrooper, i would probably try to become one anyway just for the armor.
Same
I mean you could just steal armor from a dead one if you joined the rebellion
Reminds me alot of the Japanese Empire and the tactics they used during WWII. So homicidal and suicidal and based in “Honour” but actually being the most Dishonorable, all in the name of their Emperor.
"How they were made,"
Good, yes.
"what they did in their downtime,"
Oh interesting, go on.
"to what their sex lives were like."
*falls out of my fucking chair*
6:20, so what you're saying is
Luke was a little short for a storm trooper
I love your clone wars videos a lot but I do with you would cover the empire more cuz of how dark that area was
Nice video about the lives of Stormtroopers, Geetsly! I'm curious though, would you be open to the idea of making an specific video about Clone Ordnance Specialists? They're among the most obscure of clonetrooper types, so it would be nice to give them a shoutout if possible.
9:06 star destroyer had many weakness, those two round things on both ends of the bridge
Actually using numbers are a good choice.Used to work in casino security and is actually used to protect your identity.
4:46 I’d say only the last one.
And I guess correctly.
Geetsly: “We’ve exhaustedly covered the daily lives of clone troopers on this channel before, from how they where made to how they spent their downtime to what their sex lives were like”
“Hey threes, do you think masterbation is gay?”
Gary The stormtrooper… is that an Ahnaldt101 reference?
The empire was so draconian regarding the stormtroopers that the only coffee the empire gave them rhymes with dolgers
Man being a stormtrooper sounds like hell
In the Empire as far as I know the most common were TK, CT, and CC!
Under the Empire’s doctrine towards storm troopers, they were essentially drones not unlike the agronomists. Just minus the hive mind
Vader: My master what are all the rules? Palpatine: I'll send you a PDF or something..
I never got a sense of any of this from the movies. In A New Hope we see them just chit chatting and hanging out, seem like fairly normal dudes under the armour.
Sounds like something someone wrote down and never stuck to in any bit of Star Wars.
This is why the imperium of man's tempestus scions are the best
no terrible armor
Very good laser weapons that makes stormtroopers green with envy
Really not afraid of the galaxies horrors
You´re comparing an army solely designed to strike fear into their own civilians and supress rebellions, to an army trained and equiped to kill every enemy in the most effectiv way possible on a battlefield.
@@unnamed1613 Disney empire really sucks in the war fighting area
Gary...The Stormtrooper- "It's 1142-EATMYASS!"
6:44 we all know of one who got pass that height limit
because he hit his head on the door frame
3:20 So.....racism is no more?
Tk-421 I can't be the only one who finds the closest of that number with stoner party time funny.
I read the title and my first thought is one of the rules was never put your hands in your pockets.
“We never got used to the new guys.”
I wonder if Gary ever brought his daughter to work day
Imagine how badass stormtroopers could be if Disney wouldnt shit on them at every opportunity.
Stormtroopers we’re definitely subs
I read somewhere that storm troopers were based off the Nazi secret police. This further drives that home. Dehumanization of soldiers was the exact thing the Nazi regime was going for with their army. Same desired effect too.
That's actually wrong, German officers and regular soldiers were very independent and officers were encouraged to get to know their men by talking to them about themselves and so on. Not sure where you got that from dude
@@duckygaming3536 odd. I read it in a book a while back so I don’t know. Thanks for correcting me though
The Galactic Empire is Communist
@@duckygaming3536 Yeah, it's sad to see people project assumptions onto history because of the pop-cultural tropes based upon said history. No offense to Zezous here but the German military was nothing like what you see in hollywood or video games. It's understandable though, they're media's favorite "villains" so of course people will project all their personal ideas and expectations of evil onto what basically amounted to ordinary men risking their lives for their families & Nation. Not some soulless mob of frenzied beasts.
It wasn't just Allied propaganda, it was Germany's propaganda. The goose stepping and snappy uniforms were parts of a carefully crafted image. Of course the German soldier wasn't constantly on parade. He drank, smoked, told jokes, sang songs, complained, and wrote letters home as soldiers have done for generations before and after. Dehumanization is for the enemy, not your buddies and beloved country.
6:22 this reminds me of how Disney treats its cast members but they aren’t allowed to remove anything
Lol, the same TK-421 from a new hope.