Why Clones Secretly LOATHED Fighting with Local Populations
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Clones: "I can't stand these suckers, they can't hold their ground against the droids"
Also clones: (Stand in the middle of the battlefield with no or minimum cover or rushing out of cover to melee droids.)
SHHHHHH
Those are superior tactics
Silence you sepi- sympathizer
U know too much ur coming with us
basically astartes moaning that nobody else is an astarte..... YA no they DON'T
Umbara would like a word with clones.
I have a fealing they would make a good team
This only proves even more of how greatly effective the Clone Army was, truly a force to be reckoned with.
SMOOOOOTH YODAAAA
I wish lucas understood or paid a military consultant to actually show that and not just massive charges. then again as I'm writing this jedi come to mind lol
Talk funny, you do, Yoda
@@josephcongdon427 I think that's the point, they were led by _Jedi_
Leading to many of those charging tactics comrade
@@comradekenobi6908 yea the jedi where not a good general. But perfect for palpatines plan
Im just imaging a clone saying "Bruh stfu" now because of the thumbnail lmao
Real homies remember the censored line in "Rookies"
@@geetslys I have the dvd from way back that isn’t censored...
@@geetslys "Relaxxxxx its one of those new commando droids" was it in those parts?
Execute order 6- “bruh stfu” *closes hologram*
@@emperor_ivan lollol
Day 27: We have introduced the locals to thermal detonators
Day 28: They have tried to eat the thermal detonators
Day 29, there are no locals left
Day 30: we are now the locals
Day 31: We tried eating the thermal detonators
Day 32: ...
Day 33: gunships landing... jedi gets out uhhh i dont think i want to know
And yet the Empire chose to discontinue Clones. Sad.
Hrmmm, just one missing "o" can completely change the meaning of your sentence. Sorry if you're American I realize the American education system changes words to suit themselves but i'm pretty sure they still use choose with 2 o's. But hey who am i to question the great power!
It’s better to think that they were NOT the storm troopers from the original trilogy.
@@Me-qp8vz chose is right. he used it for past, not present time
/german here
@@Me-qp8vz might want to cool it with that sarcasm lmao, he used the word correctly
@@Me-qp8vz This is fucking embarrassing
We clones hate local populations
All my clone homies hate local populations
FUCK LOCAL POPULATIONS
I believe you mean “Clomies”.
@@avvarhil clever. 🤣
This video is literally every conversation I've ever had with a Special Forces guy working foreign indigenous defense (FID) after he got back from Afghanistan
Brit here i have heard horror stories about the "quality" of the afghan forces and none of them are polite.
Eh, that's because they're trying to train farmers and workers to fight soldiers. If they were working with local soldiers, instead of fighting them, the training would have gone much smoother, or way worse depending on how open they were to the help.
Real life humans are much better at war than the SW humans. And a larger amount of us have both been in militaries and are serving in militaries compared to the total population of both the Earth and the Republic.
Also if they had sent drill Sargents instead of SF, they probably would have been more effective. The problem is SF are elite and expect the guys they're training to meet a lower but similar level. A boot camp would just teach them team work and how to not run away and shoot back.
SF are great soldiers but the not best trainers for the situation. Of course that's why we use SF, we aren't building an army, just some terrorists to help fight.
@@majinjason The main mission of Green Berets is embedding in and training local militia forces. Sending Drills would have met with no better success, as the main issues of no motivation and habitual drug usage would remain within the forces being trained.
One exception is Wookies. EVERYONE wants a Wookie on their side =)
*They were magnificent* when it came to tearing droids with their bear hands.
Locals: Were gonna help you so you can win the battle, sound good?
Clones: *laughs in ARC trooper*
>not using locals as your cheap cannon fodder under charge of your superior officers
... Laughs in British Empire
Hey it works.
I was surprised commander gree was in the thumbnail because he had an Interest in native species of the planets he fought on hence his name. Anyways great video!
Haha, that's our bad! Thanks for the correction, Gree was indeed interested in alien species which is why he is nicknamed after an alien species.
Was about to say I used to call him Green beret Gree because unconventional warfare training and working with indigenous forces to eliminate a hostile force was his bread and brother. Which when you think about is the best way to fight a galactic war with limited personal.
@@geetslys of course! Anything to help out with the best lore channel!
@@theempiredidnothingwrong3227 9 years training is enough time to learn about the galaxy they were meant to conquer, every clone should have known several languages, cultures & local economies before leaving kamino damn fish heads cant get anything right
@@V.B.Squire Honestly they should've just created a bunch of Winter soldiers I mean that's what I would've done but what do I know.
Damn I feel so bad for the clones. Every bit of the wars were hell for clones.
Umbara was especially hell
@@jaeger.editz_ and don’t forget felucia
They deserved so much better.
Idk, they were born and bred for it, and they had certain parts of their minds altered to be better soldiers, so it’s possible they absolutely loved it and they were most miserable when doing anything other than battle.
@@dannybeads3672 like hardcase?
"If we're here to help the Tailheads, the least they could do is stay out of the way." - Boil
Last time I was this early there was two hundred thousand units ready with a million more well on the way
So a long time ago
In a galaxy far far away
@@sirascaron lol!
@@sirascaron definitely subbing
Whoa, a clone army who never had any interaction with non-clones other than in combat didn’t like fighting with non-clones? Who would’ve thought
I know right
More like "whoa trained soldiers whose lives are now at risk because their allies aren't trained soldiers are annoyed? Whoa who would have guessed"
Reminds me of attempting to train and work with local forces of a host nation.
We referred to it as “herding-cats”.
They were the “lead element” of operations to give the premise of partnership but anyone who observed knew which unit was doing all the real work.
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away and here we are repeating the same actions.
Number one cause of plan failure: other people not doing their damn job xD
if i was a clone: I HATE WORKING WITH NORMAL PEOPLE, IT REMINDS ME I'M A MANUFACTURED COPY WITH NO CHOICE.
"clone wars were really a collection of thousands of small simultaneous local civil wars in which the republic and the cis regularly intervened, the grand army of the republic and the cis droid army were essentially the elite forces sent to reinforce local planetary security forces engaged in battles considered important by command"
doesn't this just sound like USA and Russia on a much larger scale
Or France and England Rome and Persia etc. Great powers using proxy wars is probably as old as states existing.
The USA and the Soviet Union*
The Soviet Union's international interests were centered around spreading communism. A key tenet of that political philosophy is ideological world conquest. Between WWII and the fall of the Soviet Union, the US only ever intervened in a country when the Soviet Union was becoming involved... or when they thought the Soviet Union was becoming involved.
@@michaelhowze8198 A tale as old as time.
@@RaynmanPlays actually communism or really any leftist ideals we're against war. Seeing diplomacy as the solution. It's one of the reasons why people don't consider the USSR (or any "communist countries") communist
George Lucas based The Galactic Empire on American Imperialism.
I wonder how the clone wars would have played out if the Sith used the clones as their army and the Republic had to recruit their own forces.
That is what the clone wars was described as in some of the old books before the prequels were made
"THe Republic needed to supply them with weapons"
Ad plays for Razor Blades.
Yes Republic, tell them to go at the Seperatists with Razor Blades...I'm sure they need a good shave anyways.
DOLLAR SHAVE CLUB
@@geetslys Sir, the enemy are battle droids Razors won't work!
Truth be told...I just wanted to fight without the locals in the way, such a pain, it's a CLONE war for crying out loud
Clone troops set an IMPOSIBLE standard for the average soldier ( genetically engineered, trained from birth by elite fighters like Jango Fett, organized and treated more like machines then men, and so on). So of course locals might be considered " inferior" or " bad soldiers".
@Adam and Eve training all of them to be as good as arc troopers would probably take much longer and just think of how much more expensive it would be to give every clone arc trooper equipment.
“ That’s too right. Sometimes, stubborn heads in respective command butted and there were a fair share of instances of problems within the chain of command. Many times, we were accompanied by skilled fighting forces. Believe it or not, I hated teaching people how to take up arms against their fellows, but I am totally fine with helping them taking on the droid onslaught. Also, from my point of view, I guess anybody from any race or species can make a good warrior, or shot, or scout, or whatever you want to call it.” ” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
The Senate loathed these populations as well.
Palpatine or the actual senate?
@@liaml.e.5964 Both (discounting some like Padme, Bail and some others)
Could you cover Boba Fett’s fate in Legends?
By the way, I’m so glad the Mandalorian Civil War with Jango Fett is canon now!
Well, the details of the Mandalorian Civil War are still not clear in the current canon; but we know that Jaster Mereel was involved!
@@geetslys at least that’s something from my favorite Star Wars comic series
@@indianajones4321 I’m sure they’ll explore it more in the Boba Fett show. There’s no reason it shouldn’t be made canon!
Makes sense, clones were literally bred to fight together and taught Standard strategy and military techniques, Throw in a local population into that mix however and you basically throw a wrench into a well oiled machine
I bet they wished they could fight along with the umbara people not against
Umbarans seemed to be the only competent and elite fighting force in the galaxy before the Clones were made. I bet the Umbarans could wipe the floor with the virgin Stormtrooper Corp
Umbara was even part of the republic but they seceded taking their tech with them which was an L for the Galactic Republic
The empire allied with the umbaran people
Shatterpoint is such an underrated novel. You should do a video on Haruun Kal, and how much of a hell the Summertime war was.
This reminds me of "Greeeeeat. It's another one of those planets" 😂😂😂
This is probably THE best thumbnail in existence
Operating with Twi'leks on Ryloth is a good example for this.
Its crazy how the Clone Wars only lasted 3 years but it seems like it has so much more lore and stories than the Civil War which lasted far longer and was really what Star Wars was about
It was really 3 years????? I never knew that??? Damn that shit felt like it lasted longer or something. Why would the creators make it 3 years? 🤨. I actually thought it lasted 10 years or something tbh
Yeah, amazing how much can happen in such a relatively short amount of time.
@@Darth_Enigma just like 2020....
@@asliceofcheese7152 exactly, also Happy New Year
I want a clones wars show equivalent for the galactic civil war.
This reminds me of the US military after WW2. Going around teaching people how to fight haha. Kinda cool
My favorites example of this didn’t even involve any fighting! In the episode “Mercy Mission” on the planet Aleen: “It’s another one of THOSE worlds.”
Rip Captain Rex who had to work with Jar Jar
Reminded me of the Generation Kill episode with those Liberated Iraq's First Brigade of Freedom Fighters.
Imagine being outclassed by B1 battle droids 🤣🤣🤣
We're their any locol defense forces or militia that were organized and decently armed enough that the clones did like working with? Also what did the clones think of the republic judicial forces and how often did they have work together?
i think they liked working with the night owls
wookies
Hey Geetsly idk if youve already done a vid on this.. But if not the worlds that had armies that where pretty decent that worked with the clones would be a good follow up vid off this one.. If there was any? Im sure there would have to be the star wars galaxy is pretty big.
Great video dude! Love your channel so much!
Man i love the clones so much
I wonder if they still felt this way when fighting with bo katan and the mandalorians
Yo keep up the awesome star wars lore videos I love them!
Yea seriously he keeps finding new things
And we love you!
@Shoddy cast We got a whole team of Star Wars nerds!
Yes, I would like to know more about the battle of Haruun Kal
Yes! Please do a video on the Battle of Haruun Kal. Its a very interesting battle considering that it appeared very early on in the Clone Wars.
Why have I never heard about Star Wars Rwanda until now.
Clones: Hey natives I see you have your own traditional battle tactics
Natives: Yes
Clones: Well throw it in the trash along with your opinion cos I am gonna teach you new stuff
Yes, because the clones wanna do a cavalry charge
I just watched a show about how training locals is a huge part of the mission for a modern SF soldier IRL. The military is training lots of new SF soldiers for that particular job with some concern that they are reducing standards to make quota.
Just like reddit
Great video overall, Love the detail and lore.
Can you make a list of the local natives that fought for the republic just as you did the organic separatist forces.
Love your videos dude keep it coming
I mean that’s what happened with that arc trooper and poor 99. The arc died trying to save 99 from the droids. ( R.I.P -99 😢)
This reminds me of a book I read ww2 American 5th army ( 5th allied army) the American commander had to equip and supply allied forces from several dozen countries mostly American and British or commonwealth imperial forces with different food weapons munitions different religious needs diet and chaplains and it was a difficult campaign in Italy
loved your star wars videos their are so awesome and cool
"A bunch of noobs"
Might as well just call them scrubs
Something doesn’t add up. When Mando and Cara Dune first meet Moff Gideon on Navarro, Mando says his name was only in the records on Mandalore so that’s how he knows it’s really Gideon, who says he might recall what an EWEB is capable of based on its use during the Night of a Thousand Tears... which happened on Mandalore. BUT we later learn that Din Djarin is part of the Childern of the Watch and they don’t travel to Mandalore because they believe it’s cursed. That plus Mando thinks the Children of the Watch are the only real Mandalorians, but if he was on Mandalore he’d realize he was part of a small splinter group. His alleged presence on Mandalore during Moff Gideon’s assault is a massive contradiction to when he tells Bo Katan that he avoids it because he thinks it’s cursed. I could be wrong, but if I’m right then there’s some serious clarification needed from Dave Filoni. I love the show, but when I realized this I just couldn’t stop thinking about it. Please make a video on this or at least share your thoughts on it in the next video :)
Maybe he only lived there for a few years as a young kid and the splinter group formed later and took him with them
yoda at 8:03 is just super serious lol never really seen his facial expression like that before
After a week or so of watching I think it’s time you get my subscription my friend.
In many many ways the clone wars were like the cold war being that it consisted mostly of smaller proxy wars
i thought the same early on in the SWTCW during the freeing ryloth arc. glad my hunch was right
'they same couldnt be said for local forces' picture of CorSec who -COULD- hold their own if they were actually involved in the clone wars but werent at least in legends because Garm Bel Iblis exercised an obscure clause in the republic charter that allowed Corellia to just say 'naaaaw dawg we're gonna sit this one out'
The Bois R back in town- but they rather it be JUST the Bois. Not the Bois and friends.😂🤺
Love to see some kotor content sometime eventually love clone wars but be nice for a change 👌
I just started the video but I’m gonna guess that it’s because when working with clones they know their brothers abilities and limits but when working with some random ass villagers and stuff they don’t know what they can do so they can’t actually trust them to do anything important
Also love the vids man your a star wars dictionary lol.
bruh I love Gree on the thumbnail and be like:
*TIME TO EAT ROASTED WOOKIES*
What about when they fought alongside the mandos against Maul and Deathwatch? Probably the one time they weren’t worried
''What none of us had counted on was the wookies. We'd all heard the stories, of course, but we'd never fought next to them, never seen them rip apart a droid with their bare hands. They were magnificent''
Lol
Gree: it's like I was made for this...
This kinda makes me wonder if there was a local people the clones liked fighting with? Sorry I don't really know starwars lore
I know I am a year late, but they commented about the wookies and how they were magnificent.
I can only imagine why.
That canceled bad batch story you mentioned could make a comeback i imagine
Hey I’ve been wondering. Are there any Wookies that speak English, or any other language? If they can’t, then why not? As they can understand it when it’s spoken to them? I feel like the excuse is gonna be that their vocal cords can’t form any complex sounds, just roars and growls and moans and groans and whines... but I would argue that since they have very human looking mouths with tongues and teeth, and they can make all the noises they can, then they clearly could learn to speak other languages than just their own roaring language. Does anyone have an answer or example of a Wookie actually speaking?
They're supposed to be hyper intelligent, even having their own hyperdrive technology, just preferring their wood over 'durasteel'. If we look at the iconic chewbacca it does seem they understand, but meet the human sorta halfway.
But that's a non-answer. Here's what you're looking for
Legends: Ralrracheen, the ambassador of kashyyk that had a speech impediment, which made him understandable to humans.
Canon: no.
Beyond that, the reasoning is what you'd expect; alien muscles and vocals, can't make the same earth ape noises that we know as English
Chimps and gorillas also have human like mouths yet cant speak. Because theynkack vocal cords so that's what's going on with wookies. They can understand and learn to sign I'd imagine. As apes are able to do so and wookies are certainly smarter then a chimp.
Some Humans can learn to speak Shyyriwook (Wookie language) but with great difficulty and such people are rare, however Wookies cannot learn to speak Galactic Basic (English) at all because their vocal chords can't make the sounds, but they can learn to understand it fluently, like Chewbacca.
The clone wars remind me of the cold war and the american civil war mixed together were they inspiration or just a coincidence
The clone wars take aspects from a number of different conflicts, among them the Cold War, the US Civil War, the First and Second World Wars, and even the Napoleonic Wars in some aspects.
@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 how do u know which wars is it stated somewhere
How bad was the training of Local Defence Forces? Modern basic infantry training is what, around 12 to 16 weeks? That produces competent soldiers, but PDFs couldn't do so in the lead up to the Clone Wars?
One of the big problems is that besides a couple of warrior cultures like the Mandalorians, the galaxy had enjoyed a thousand year long golden age of peace with no major wars, so most local forces were basically in the same tier as cops. The republic also had put a bunch of restrictions on the militaries of member states.
1:50 Nar Shaddaa security Corp would like to know your location. Won’t matter cause they’ll die to the first enemy that comes along but still
Well, I definitely didn't know that. So did all Clone units hate fighting with the Locals, because I think at least a few liked them enough. I mean I imagine on Mon Cala and Mandalore they were happy for the help since for Mon Cala they weren't exactly pros in the water while the Mon Calamari were, and on Mandalore, the Night Owls really came in clutch near the end with that surprise sky attack on Maul's force to save the overwhelmed 501st.
I imagine that working with Mandalorians the clones have a lot fewer objections. they were trained by the Cuy'val dar and if 75% of your instructor ARE Mandalorians I feel like their tactics are instantly more recognizable and they feel less like an unknown variable. I imagine there would still be difficulties but no different then fighting alongside clones from another Corps who developed different strategies and preferred tactics from the different engagements they fought during the war,
Hey Geetsly’s! Happy New Year!
The video is exactly 10 minutes long, nice
As much I love the clone army and yes I agree they are the best military force in star wars universe but something with nessaserry to work with the local population in order to win in a important battles.
the invasion of kashyyyk never made much sense to me, so any reason they can add to it helps, but when the movie came out, was like why??assumed they just wanted to show kashyyk, one of them bucket list items,
I can not seem to find Relax Jack in the RUclips Music app search. Why would that be?
I have a feeling we might see the Bad Batch on Kashyyyk in their upcoming series.
Also, Elite Forces.. in the case of the Separatists, we can only consider the units that operated completely well with their Separatist commanders, as well as those droids that were smarter than your average droid, to be elite.
admit, fox vs thorne never followed up on much but, which red captain is next to cody at 5:45, looks like fox the hated one, rip fives, actually, what is that picture from??a mod or something
Awesome vid
Shatterpoint is still one of my favorite SW books.
Oh it’s gonna be one of *those* planets..
Wow that's quite a thumbnail
RUclips: unskippable US Army add
Irony: *Why hello there*
That thumbnail tho
Amazing.
Thank you! Cheers!
Yo my grandma is on house arrest
Bru that thumbnail lol
A good video would be the best cases local forces and clones did well together.
I thought the Wookies did fairly well with them.
What if we get to see the unaired TCW episodes in the Bad Batch show?
"bruh stfu" LMFAO
Thumbnail gave me a heart attack
I want to hear about Haruun Kal
No wonder that guy from the 501st Journal said “in the past, we secretly enjoyed putting down a local insurrection or two..”