What LINE Should You Use For ULTRALIGHT FISHING?
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- One of the most common questions I get for ultralight fishing is what line works best. In this video, I explain the main advantages and disadvantages of each major type of line for ultralight fishing. I also share some of my preferences and explain why I fish with what I do. This video is long overdue!
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HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY:
Monofilament - inexpensive, soft, stretches, available in clear and hi-vis, low diameter options cast light lures far & have minimal line twist
Fluorocarbon - you tend to get what you pay for so the best options tend to be pricey, high sensitivity, low stretch, very low diameter, available in clear, minimal line twist on high end options
Braid - you get what you pay for so the best options tend to be pricey, no stretch, easy to detect bites due to line visibility, it is best to use a leader, available in numerous colors, can get some line twist if you are not careful
Overall, I will continue to use all three options. I don't think there is necessarily a right or wrong answer but I do think that the lower diameter you go, the further cast distance you tend to get. That is why I love 2lb test. I catch a lot more fish because I use it!
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i just caught a 5lb bass (best catch of my life so far) and it was on 6lb mono on small jig head with a 1.5" twister worm...we drove 2 hours and were getting skunked all day so i switched to small setup just to catch anything and bam caught my biggest bass...really made me rethink what i know about fishing
That is so epic! Congrats on the big bass!!
So far some of the best advice I’ve gotten was to use smaller jigs like small Johnson beetles instead of constantly using flukes/senkos/worms or med/lrg crank baits.
Smaller stuff catches everything including big bass. Way more fun.
Yeah the bitsy bug jigs murder for me in pressured water. Smaller presentation they don’t usually see has caught me some of my biggest bass.
U used any leader line?
6lb. Braid to 4lb floro leader for my ultralight setup. Just in case you hook a decent size one! Still casts 1/32oz. decently.
Yep! That is the same I use for most of my 1/32oz Mule Jigs. For the super light stuff, I tend to go monofilament!
I used 8lb braid with a 4 lb mono leader today and measured a 45 foot cast with a 1/64 oz trout magnet jig head. I'm now looking to downsize to 4 or 5 lb braid. Using a Daiwa Presso.
I use 6lb braid with 2lb floor on my setup.
6 pound mono or flouro to big for 1/16th oz lures?
@@hoosierbassin1621 not at all. Should be fine.
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Awesome!!
In my opinion the right choice is using braid as a main line and using fluorocarbon as a leader material. You just have to get good at tying a line to leader knot such as the FG knot, uni-to-uni knot or my favorite the Alberto knot. The leader gives you the low line visibility to the fish and fluorocarbon line also sinks much better than braid which helps with ultralight line and lures, and the way fluorocarbon stretches makes hook setting better than monofilament. The braided mainline gives you better casting distance, higher line visibility, more sensitivity, and no line stretch which also means better hook sets. The only crucial part is getting good at tying line to leader knots, but once you get that down then this is IMO the best way to go
This was such a fun day great video once again dude! I personally love floro and braid but use mono because it is cost effective as a budget angler.
Fun times buddy! Thanks for coming along and catching them with me. And yeah I prefer 2lb mono for the super light stuff but the heavier baits, the braid is hard to beat!
Nah, mono you need to replace every 3 months. One spool of braid will last a lifetime.
@@FishAnythingwhat’s the best budget friendly mono or braid? 2-4 lb test? Thanks hope to get a answer soon.
Love that FireLine! Over the years I've used Spiderwire, Power pro, but Fireline beats them all for spinning reels. Thanks for the video. 👍
Yeah I tried Spiderwire and it is garbage haha the Fireline is pretty dope. Might have to try the 4# at some point to see if I can get some more casting distance.
Dude it took me forever and a day to figure out what works best for me and it's trilene in a red box. This is good information to know for beginner's!!!
Honestly the basic stuff gets overlooked. Simply can't go wrong with a simple ol' spool of trilene! I like the sensation because it has given me very few issues but I think the standard red box is great too.
I've been ultralight fishing since the 1970s and the gear certainly has changed. When I got seriously involved it was mostly to pursue high-mountain trout in lakes and streams, plus I'm a bit of a techie engineer. My go-to rigs today are imported Daiwa and Shimano finesse reels on light and UL rods or fly-rod hybrids. My favorite rod is best described as a "fast" fly rod blank made up like a spinning rod. Nothing beats an effortless 1000-size reel with "infinite" drag; but there's no market for them in the US so they have to be imported from Japan or Australia.
Regarding lines, I settled on 4-lb and 6-lb monofilament (Spiderwire) and 4-lb and 3-lb Berkeley Nanofil as on my UL spools. It's not unusual for neighboring anglers to ask me what I'm using because my casts appear long and effortless. Some of it's the line but also pairing the rods, reels and baits for best performance. My favorite trout rig is fly-and-bubble (either dry fly or nymph) although a hopper-dropper rig is perfect for stream fishing.
NOTE: Users report problems with Nanofil (breakage, etc.). Somehow I don't have the problems with Nanofil, probably because I always use leaders and am gentle with set-ups.
Best day ever was a 100+ day on a mountain lake with my SO and some friends, so many trout we honestly lost count after 40+ each. It seemed like every other cast got a hookset.
Right on. Sounds like you are an ultralight addict like me :)
Nanofil is a very unique line. I tend to have a love-hate relationship with it. I don't personally like the "wirey" feel that leads to a lot of memory on a slow sinking presentation. I do love the super low diameter and castability though.
Nanofil is my mainline of choice as well but it’s my understanding that It’s been discontinued so now I’m trying Fireline which is nice but not the same. Maybe I need to size down (from 6lb to 2lb). I also like using a bubble and fly rig, I’m curious what your preferred bubble is with your UL setup. I e found most to be pretty heavy for UL rods
Thoroughly appreciate all the videos man! Just got started with BFS/Ultralight fishing out in SE Michigan this year and you, rawr, and Hobie Wan have all been massively helpful!
Awesome! So happy to hear that you have been enjoying the content and having fun with UL/BFS. Hobie Wan and Rawr are both good dudes - thanks for supporting all three of us :)
Mono is the one I like for years with no problem I can't see 2 lbs no more so I've been getting 4 lbs line for stocking the fish. I like colors is easy for me to see moving. I like bait fishing and sit and relax. And wach the grandkids great times.
For trout fishing, I go straight Fluorocarbon. After using many brands, my choice is 4LB Kastking FluoroKote. Since I switched to Kastking I never have problems with wind knots or bird nests.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing! I like straight fluorocarbon but I honestly feel like mono has given me less issues. Probably need to experiment with brands more.
Varivas Bait Finesse PE 5lb has become my favorite for ultralight
I hear really good things about Varivas. Might have to look into it! Thanks for sharing :)
Great talk about line Ethan and a fun session of UL multispecies fishing. You always make things so fun 😁
Thanks Fitzy haha I try to make them seem fun because, well... I am having fun :D And yeah I have been meaning to do this video for a long time. Glad I finally got it done!
I love berkley 4lb nanofil or fireline for ultralight jig fishing. I can toss a 1/64oz. Jig 40-50’ in light wind conditions with my St. Croix 6’9” ul panfish rod with a 1000 sized Daiwa reel . Also, I really like how sensitive the line is. I’ve recently realized that the better balanced my tackle is the more successful my fishing has been.
For example, I recently went Crappie fishing and was catching way more fish than the other just because I could detect the bite better than the others around me. The Crappies were biting extremely lightly. I came home with a limit of fish.
I recently read an article on In-Fisfermen about euro style floats, so I bought a few and let me say I sure paid off.
Yeah I also like Nanofil & the fireline! Nanofil is so weird though haha it feels like dental floss or something. I will keep experimenting with numerous types of line for sure.
Another fun and informative outing. Must say I prefer braid with a fluoro leader for just about anything. I don't see any reason to go lower than 6 pounds for the braid, since it's going to be thinner than 2-pound mono. But if you want a fair casting-distance contest (pound for pound) you have to go right down to 2-pound braid, which is so thin it barely exists. I've had fewer tangles and handling hassles with braid than with mono. I don't use fluoro for anything but leader material, and that helps keep me happy.
Yeah I am nervous to go any lower than 6lb test braid because I fear it will get a ton of wind knots and tangles. That said, I am sure it would absolutely TOSS a tiny jig. Maybe I will experiment with it soon :D Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts Jim. Tight lines my man!
Thanks to your content I’ve been getting pretty invested into ultralight fishing, for my trout setups and some of the larger ultralight setups I use 6lb Copolymer. I wish you could have demonstrated it because I feel like it is a very good middle of the road between mono and fluro but to each their own. I use larger line because one minute it’s a dink bluegill, next could be a 24in smallmouth. I’ve caught huge bass on 6lb no issues, I usually do better ultralight than full-size baits. Probably because of fishing pressure but funny to note
Thank you for sharing! Probably should have talked about this. Good news is that I can always do another video :) so I definitely appreciate the suggestion. I will try some out!
It goes onto the reel in the same direction it comes off the spool. That's the key to mono. No more twists etc. I've been fishing with my ultralights since my early teens which is about 25years. Usually 6lb line mono is what I use. The reels I have are Shimano 500,750 spin cast. I've broken 3-4 rods, and never lost a fish die to mono. After 6-7 fish I always cut 10 inches off and retie.
Totally agree! Nothing wrong with mono if you spool it correctly.
I prefer mono, mostly for something you didn't really mention. With ultralight line, I use 4#, being able to get tangles out is a big deal. Haven't really tried fluorocarbon for that. But I do like fluro for salt water leaders. I like the trilene and landed up to 17 lb fish on it
Main thing, constantly check knots and eliminate nicks. Interesting part of the video you were left handed, then right handed.
I agree! Try Trilene Micro Ice Mono (available in solar or clear)…very tough and casts even the
I have always wondered about using ice fishing line in open water. I will have to look into that!
Love your passion . Great video , you reignited my love for ultralight trout fishing 2lb nightmare to tie fun. You sparked my hunt for secret urban honey hole madness. Chucking a float and twitch bass rapala into snapping turtle rich environment see what hits.
Go out there and catch some donkeys!
Great video, lots of excellent info about the pros and cons of each type of line. I personally like using braided line with mono for leader.
I think an important thing to note about braid is that one spool-up will last you all year and then some. When I use mono it seems like it needs to be replaced every couple weeks, it gets brittle and coiled up and line management gets annoying. Braid took some getting used to but once you do I rarely get loops or tangles, and it just lays flat in the water no matter how long its been on the spool.
My ultralight has been spooled up with 10lb Sufix Performance since the beginning of last year and still going strong. Power Pro has been a let down in comparison - knots slip, more tangles, seems to fray more in less time. Although I've also had them both spooled up for the same amount of time, so that's the difference versus mono/fluoro to me is that braid just last forever in comparison.
Okay that is a superb point. Totally forgot to talk about the fact that braid can be fished for years on end haha. I honestly fished the same 10lb braid on one of my reels for almost 8 years lol.
Mono in super low diameters tends not to last more than half a season. Thanks for sharing Evan!
@@FishAnything Wow 8 years is nuts but I don't doubt it can last that long. Glad to be part of the discussion, it's an important factor for me for sure. I was scared of the braided price tags at first, but it's an investment considering how much longer it lasts it's actually much cheaper and easier in the long run.
@@FishAnything Ya, and it gets ruined in sunlight if left out... i had fireline on my reels for about 6 before they started flaking
'Ride or Die with one setup', love it man! Those Donkey Tail Jr. Chartreuse w/a Pink Head are my go-to's thus far, been killing the Crappie, Gills & Bass on em. And your Jig Heads are killer. Great Video & thanks for making a great Product!
Thank you so much! Happy to hear it :)
@@FishAnything I'll be needing more of your awesome product before long I'm sure!
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When I'm fishing in these small streams, creeks and canals, most definitely I like to use 8 pound test extra tough super strong clear line. Mostly I just fish for trout, crappies, perch and panfish. Well once in awhile I will catch a smallmouth bass, here and there. Great review and great video.
Thanks Shawn! Always good to learn from one another 🤠👏🏽
New to the channel but you have got me when you started singing Morgan street by turnpike, love ultra light fishing
Turnpike 🧡 thanks for watching!!
I love 10lb braid on a 6lb leader, it's nice to still have good castability without decreasing strength. Ive heard stories down at the Bridge I fish about people catching 30+lb Flatheads on Crappie lures, just gotta keep that braid from rubbing on the Pylons or you'll break off instantly.
Wow I can't imagine a 30+ lb catfish on a little crappie setup haha that has to be a blast.
@@FishAnything oh yeah, caught about a 5lb Bass under there not too long ago r r
I decided to try the trilene sensation, clear color in 2lb and 4lb test. Also got 2lb SOS that was the recommended to use with panfish magnets. It will be interesting to see how it does this season. FYI, for those with eyes over 50years old, that 2lb line is hard to see, lol! At least when I was putting 6lb mono on my other reel it felt like a was using rope, lol! If I stay with 2lb mono I may have to use some hi-viz just so I can see it to tie lures!
Yeah the light lines can be super painful to see and rig but they also can make a huge impact with casting distance and bites. Let me know how it goes with the sensation vs the SOS
I love 2lb sos line from trout magnet
Daiwa 8x J-Braid Grand (6 lb) with a Sunline Fluorocarbon leader (4 lb) is absolute FIRE on my ultralight. I can throw a 1/64 jig a country mile and it's sooooo sensitive
I will have to try the J Braid in place of the Fireline and see how it performs for me. I like the Fireline but I definitely don't get the same distance as my Mono.
@@FishAnything rod and reel are also factors (how "whippy" the rod is, for instance, or how full your spool is, etc)
If you try the JBraid, be sure to get the x8 Grand (they also sell "regular" x8 and an x4)
Love the Turnpike reference lol. Keep up the great content fam
Thanks John! Great band :)
8lb power Pro braid on all my ultralights. I'll use one set up for ultralight finesse bass fishing.
The light braid is definitely growing on me!
Awesome video! I definitely have to get in the ultralight game. FISH ON
🤠👊🏽 thanks!
I always do 6 pound mono but now I am thinking I need to do the big switch to 4 pound. Son and I fished a heavily fished pond today. No one else was catching. We had mule jugs with donkey tail jrs and mule jigs with live worms....we were pulling them in left and right. Told everyone about your gear...even though that could make fishing tougher in the future LOL
Haha thanks so much John! Yeah I think you should give the 4# or even 2# a try if you get the chance. I think you will be happy with the added casting distance :)
Really surprised to hear that you've had success with straight mono/fluoro on ultralight size reels. When I first got into UL, I almost gave up due to line memory/wind knots on UL stuff. Now it's 5lb Power Pro braid to 2 or 4lb Sensation leader for all UL/Light BFS applications.
The thing is... Everyone has their own style. For me, the sensation has very few wind knots/issues with memory. Sure, after I fish it hard for a while, I will get some tangles. But that is inevitable for such a light line. Braid is definitely solid but I just wish I could still get the distance I get with my 2lb mono.
@@FishAnything I'm gonna have to try 2lb mono now, since I thought 5lb braid was king for casting distance.
I think you will find it works quite well for the spinning reel :)
@@FishAnything seaguar invizx is great! But I also use KVD line conditioner and never had a problem.
I find Nanofil to be superior to Fireline in every category other than durability. The casting distance is amazing. I always use a swivel as well.
Just used 6lb fireline on my president size 20. Tons of memory. I had a crazy tangle 2nd cast. Other than that it seemed okay but you got to keep you eye on it.
Yeah I have realized the Fireline is trash compared to other braid options.
@@FishAnything I have been using power pro and sufix so far. I like Sufix more so far. I will try out J Braid when I get my hands on some. But the funny thing is I like mono over fluro and braid, but my confidence in braid keeps me using it.
Another great video. I use fluro on my true ultralight reels and fluro leader/braid for 6# and up (Medium - still UL to some).
Nice! What fluoro do you like for the UL stuff? I want to experiment more. I really like this Samurai but it ain't cheap.
I've been using P-Line Floroclear and am very satisfied with it. Also - you mentioned your braid liked to be wet first - try a line dressing like Lew's Speed Cast (made by Lucas Oil - smells great). It slicks up braid and is also a UV protectant. Easy to use spray bottle, and I use it on spinning and bait caster reels.
I use 4 lb mono from my crappie fishing line
Can't go wrong! I have found I like 2lb a bit more just because it casts about 15% further in my experience.
I like Mr crappie 4 lb. Trilene XL is great too!
Just wanna say thanks for all the great info and help! I’ve always just been a bass fisherman, but have gotten into pan fishing and creek fishing ever since your videos. I went ahead and got a TFO rod and a Daiwa revros 1000 to pair it with. My next one will probably be the sierra, or a st croix I’d like to get a good verity of options.
Awesome! Hope you crush fish on it :) I am glad you like the videos
Just about all my finesse is low diameter braid to fluoro leader. Breaking strains etc all depends on what technique/species. Great video
I love braid to fluoro for all my bass spinning outfits. I just find that straight mono is more simple and works really well for the tiny stuff so it is my favorite for UL.
@@FishAnything mono is 100% the worst for ultralight
I like using 8 pound J-Braid Grand for my ultra lights. 👌
J Braid Grand is great stuff!
@FishAnything Sure is! Just purchased 6 pound J-Braid too, to mix it up a little 👌
I wish people were excited about my belly!
Just found your channel, great content
Thanks Britt :) holler if you ever have any questions/feedback!
6lb - 300m PE line for my deep sea jigging in my deep spool
4lb - 100m PE line for my freshwater game in my shallow spool
both with 10lb or lower FC leader...
Good splaining my friend. Actually never took the diameter into the equation.
Thanks Ronald! I have honestly noticed a +15% further casting distance switching from 4lb to 2lb mono. It makes a big difference for the little stuff!
Just spooled my ultralight setup with 4lb Berkley flouroshield. Looking forward to my next street fishing session to test it out. To bad the weather got cold again 😔
Awesome I hope it works out well for you and you smash them :D Also hope the weather gets warmer :)
Last trout season in socal i ran 5lb phenix iron feather braid to 2lb vanish flouro and it was plenty strong. I fought a few 3lb trout with confidence, no chances at anything over the 3lb mark yet.
That’s epic! Sounds like a nice setup 👀
I am here again watching i am thankful fo sharing this video it gives me an idea of changing my lines well done brother thanks so much
Thanks for all the support :)
I use the lemiglas x11 trout and panfish rod with a pflueger president size number 25 with Berkley 835 braid in 8 pound test and I'd Say its one of my personal favorites for the price point not totally a budget build but for the 160 price point it's well worth that in my opinion
Sounds like an awesome setup!
Thanks for this video. I had some 6 lbs braid on a 10 series reel and felt like I wasn't casting as well as I did with even mangled up fluoro on it. It's my only ultralight, and it's a 5' rod, so I expected some shorter casts but my 10 foot with 8lbs braid casts FAR further...I may just try some of that Berkley Sensation Mono on my 10 series now. :)
Good luck! I’ve also found the quality of the braid makes a big difference. J braid grand x8, Phenix iron feather, and spro finesse braid are a few I really like.
@@FishAnything I've been using Fireline on my spinning reels. I tried some others, but spinning reels don't like anything but Fireline. I think it's because they actually reach a point of too limber. Though, I really like Berkley's new X9 and X5. Both my baitcasters have Spiderwire Ultracast at the moment.
@@FishAnything though, thanks to your video, I have been using as a leader material and it's fantastic for that.
When we switched to braid I stop getting wind knots so that's my go to. Ps Love the Donkey Tail & Donkey Tail Jr on on the Mule Jigs! 🎣❤
Thanks - glad you are liking them! And yeah braid is solid, I have really been liking the 6# that I use. I do prefer the 2lb mono if I am casting super light baits though (which I do a lot of).
I'm also a ultralight fishing fanatic I find copolymer lines to be perfect for me I'm currently doing a big line test on a bunch of copolymer lines right now my favorites are Pline fluoroclear and Gamma Poly flex
I will definitely try those out thank you so much!
@@FishAnything gamma poly flex has a bit higher line diameter but very supple and strong line, the Pline fluroclear has thinner diameter and more stretch great casting distance
I've been using fire line since it came out. I used to use 4 pound but switched to 6 pound which holds up better and no decrease in action.
Yes First one here thanks for another video buddy!
Ayoooo Dave got the first comment :) you da man!
Talked me into trying an ultra lite set up😊
Haha that is great to hear! Hope you have a lot of fun with it :)
Call me strange but I prefer a copolymer line for my ultralight gear. It makes up for the sensitivity issues of mono and helps with the fragility and memory issues of floro its worked well for me for the last few years
I will definitely give it a try! Thanks for the suggestion!!
6lb is Ultralight? Man, I've been hitting up big bream and Australian Salmon on 6lb braid and a 6lb leader, and my mates are telling me I'm still over-gunned. They're on 3lb fluoro pulling in 40cm bream!
I use 4 pounds test and throw rooster tails and spinnerbaits off an ultralight pole. I've been catching 3 pound trout without even trying. It feels like you're reeling in a shark. Ultralight rules!
I live i West Virginia their are lots of rocks so I use Stren Moss Green never had a problem with it !!!!!!
I will have to check that out - thanks for the feedback!
I use braided line with about 4meters of really stretchy mono.
I fish a quite big river here where i live and long casts sometimes pay of so braided helps me cast furthe while the leader helps me to make my combo not so rigid so the fish cant un huck itself.
5kg (0.1mm) braid
3kg (0.16mm) mono
I use a Uni Knot to tie the leader (never, not even once failed) + it is low profile and it goes easily through the guides.
Nice! That sounds like a similar setup that I use for my bass gear. I like braid for anything over 1/32oz but it is a bit harder to cast the super light stuff in my experience.
im using the same size braid and .18mm fluorocarbon, if you get snagged with that light of line can you ever get it out?? i went fishing with the ultralight for the first time , and most the knots were either slipping while casting or breaking as soon as i got snagged
To be honest with the ultralight setup i fish 90% topwater and i hardly never get snagged unless i cast in very risky places and it ends up in a branch or something but that is very rare... It depends where you fish, what lures you use etc etc... Where you fish might be very different from the place i fish
Ultralight: 1/64, 1/48 and 1/32 oz jigs I like to fish are where I think a high quality mono is still king.
Yeah! That’s why I love the sensation 2lb test 🤠👊🏽
@@FishAnything 2lb test is really hard to find right now. I try to buy from smaller places instead of Bass Pro Shops but I may have to break down and buy that Trilene from them.
Ive only tried braid once and it just wanst for me changing leaders on the go is a pain so i like to keep it simple so i also use the Berkley Trilene on my Daiwa Legalis 1000 once i have my mini clip which is actually meant for fly fishing and is tiny im ready to go and changing lures is so easy 😁 ✌💙👍 from Scotland ❤🎣 ©® 👌
Gotta find what works best for you!
Thiner line means little more to think about but if you just sett you drag acordoly it will not be a problem shore it takes abit longer to land a bigger fish but you use them gears as they was meant to ;) me my self is a fierline kinda gy you just kant go wrong whit 0,10 fierline on ultralight ^^ keep up your god work and be safe out there :)
Thank Jojo! Good points, tight lines my friend!
My Ultralight set up is 100% pure #4 test floracarbon line slap full on my 500 size reel.
Heck yeah! If it works for you, that is the most important part. I like the feel of mono but fluoro is obviously a great choice too.
I prefer 4lb Maxima Chameleon on my UL setups. It hasn’t let me down yet. I’ve been thinking about trying micro braid with a fluoro leader though. Switch things up a bit.
I will have to try that one out. Thanks for sharing, Ryan.
Loving the turnpike troubadours spoof
Turnpike is fantastic :)
@@FishAnything and if I have read correctly. They should start touring again soon.
@@timg9404 they sure are! Doubt if I will make it to a show this time but I saw them in Harrisburg PA a few years back. Great time!
@@FishAnything last I saw them was in 2018 ish in St. Louis. That being said have you listened to The Dead South?
Big fan of Trilene Sensation 6 & 8lb. as a leader for river Smallmouth. Can't believe they quit making it👎 Scored a mixed 5 pack cheap online with some 2 and 4lb. for my new ultralight Panfish setup👍
It is really good line! It appears they still have it in their lineup, but they definitely discontinued a few models. Hope they don't discontinue the rest of the lineup.
@@FishAnything Amazon has it as of 01/28/23
Favorite braid : power pro
No wind knots with 5 lb line, cast a mile
Favorite mono: maxima ultra green
Doesn’t bird nest as much as cheaper mono
Favorite Flouro: Yozuri pink
Thin and invisible
I just got the daiwa samurai for 100% fluoro
I need to try all of those out!
@@FishAnything I’m in love with the daiwa samurai. Super thin. Thinner than same lb mono and doesn’t twists.
I so much like your explanations!!
Thank you :)
I feel like mono or braid to leader is just about the only UL line to use. Flourocarbon is fine but it’s expensive and I feel like mono is as good given the stretch is minor because you have a super light hook.
Agreed. Fluoro under 6lb test just seems so dang brittle too.
Hard to belive but 2lb excel,bps brand has been awsome.Landed a 7 lb carp fishing for blue gill.But was on a shimano static 1000.love the smooth drag.
I will have to test that one! Sounds like a good option for a budget friendly price.
Daiwa Justron DPLS mono. Their 6# is the same diameter as most other brands 4# and their 4# is the same diameter as most 2#.
Interesting! I will have to look into that - thanks for the suggestion.
@@FishAnything I have to order mine from overseas. They don't sell it in America . I was ordering it on eBay but it went up in price on there to about $5-$7 a spool, so now I order it from Ali Express. It's $2-$3 for a 500m spool on there. Look up Shop911346012Store on Ali Express and they have it in several colors as well as clear if that's your flavor. 👍🏻
8# Power Pro braid (has a 1# mono diameter) with a three foot 6-8# mono or flouro leader works for me for 1/16 or heavier. Lighter leaders lose too many baits to snags.
Never could stand the way mono and flouro twist and spring off the spool. The coiling memory is bad on both too.
I used to hate straight mono or fluoro but then I started using 4lb and lower diameters and realized the memory is not very bad. If you are fishing really snaggy areas though, obviously you need a bit heavier line. I will always have setups with both braid and straight mono. Pros and cons!
Fire line is very thick and strong I use 6lb for large jerkbaits and walking baits, I use Berkley X9 4lb for ultralight finesse fishing. Using fire line was a huge mistake and the comparison is unfair.
Yeah I screwed up. J braid or spro finesse braid kick fireline’s butt
4lb fireline on my ultra light I throw flys on it.
I'd be interested to see you revisit this and include copolymer lines, and whether you have the same opionion 2yrs later!
That said, feels really weird you never brought up memory in the line?
In my experience braid is worlds better than mono or fluoro because it has ZERO memory, and on tiny diameter spools like those in microfishing, no memory makes life a lot easier.
This video needs updated for sure! I will plan to revisit this topic this year :)
3lb Suntech braid or 4lb Spider Wire braid
then either a fly tippet ring or #000 / #00 Micro Swivel then a 2 to 3ft of #8x Fluorocarbon Fly Tippet for a leader
Interesting! I will have to look into those. I personally have bad experience with Spiderwire but maybe I will give it another shot.
on my UL i've settled on berkley x9 6lb flame green and stren mono for leaders .
How is that line working? I haven't used that particular model yet.
@@FishAnything just put it on but haven't fished the 6 lb yet . i did fish the x9 15lb last spring and summer and it was very decent . only a few wind knots over several months and never and braid breaks but i did have my 6 and 12 lb mono leaders bread sever times from snags and bush fish on the other side of the bank ;) . i can tell you it is VERY quiet going through the guides and roller . i hate the schwschwschwschw sound PP makes , it disturbs my peace and quiet when fishing or the sound of the water . but seriously i do appreciate the difference in sound . i hope to get out later this week . the x9 6 is on a fuego lt on a TFO trout panfish with 6 lb stren mono leader . i'll start with joes flys and a swivel . i'm in the mountains of southwest va and need to get to the trout they stock around here ! take care dude :)
I bought 6lb sufix 832 to try out for 1/8 oz jerkbaits and spinners. I am sick of having to cast super hard to get it out(even on 10-20 braid)
I tested it at home with my regular 11lb flouro leader I use. It broke at the leader to lure knot every time. I am interested to see how it will feel/fish.
Sufix 832 is okay but I definitely prefer J Braid, Spro Finesse Braid, or Phenix Iron Feather. I’d caution you on 6lb braid to 11lb fluoro as the line diameter difference is pretty substantial. I’d probably go 4-6lb fluoro. If you’re doing double uni knot, go for 5 wraps braid 4 wraps fluoro.
I use 2 pound Trilene xl smooth casting on my ultra light.
Works great!
ik i’m late but what pound leader did you use for the braid?
I typically run 6lb braid to a 4lb copolymer leader
Hi Ethan STREN Magnatnin 4 lb. is my go to for ultra light Donkey Tails Jr. are killer
Ooooh lala me likey! I need to try that. Thanks for sharing!
Also, a negative thing about braid is that unless you buy quality braid it can be loud and annoying when you are reeling.
Haha truth!
I’m happiest and most confident with Fireline. With Fireline I experienced less line issues and if your patient the twist and wind knots come out surprisingly easy if & when they occur.
Monofilament just creates frustration & disappointment.
Fluorocarbon, the jury is still out but yet to satisfy.
Yeah I definitely love fireline too but it just doesn’t cast as far for really light lures. I think mono can be good or bad depending on the brand. I’ve had fantastic luck with trilene sensation
Power Pro 5# braid, so far it is awesome, 2 years now..
I will be scooping some up soon!
All I do is ultralight fishing (aside from sturgeon with 100lb braid) and my go-to is 4lb Yozuri hybrid. 8lb break strength and the size of a few human hairs. Excellent for skittish wild trout.
Awesome! I just got some Yo-Zuri hybrid in some higher sizes. I will definitely have to get some of the small stuff too. Thanks for sharing!
Hello Ethan. Not trying to be rude but do you own 100% of mule fishing? If so please keep it that way if you can. Thats what makes it special.
100% owner with full intentions to keep it that way 🤠👊🏽 thanks Jim!
@@FishAnything thats AWESOME!!
Would it be possible to get the braid rod/reel/line/lure set up you used in this video? Came across your channel as I’ve been looking into ultralight fishing and just watched a handful of your videos in a row, excellent work!
Thank you! I believe I was using my Dobyns Rod paired with a size 1000 Daiwa reel in that video. Tatula LT 1000 I want to say... I was using Fireline braid but I don't recommend that. J Braid or Spro Finesse braid are significantly better options.
If you don't want to use braid is it better to use low diameter monofilament or fluorocarbon line? I know that monofilament can be quite stretchy, so would it better to use a low diameter fluorocarbon all the way through?
I have found that ultralight line is a bit different than higher diameters. I have found that monofilament or copolymer are much better options than fluorocarbon in these sub-6lb test varieties. The stretch seems to help with some durability whereas the fluoro feels quite brittle.
Dude you are the best.
Well I don't know about that haha but thanks!
You know your stuff
Thank you!
I always run copolymer or ice fluro which has held up to even silver salmon and lake trout incidents.
Never tried braid as I feel like it is a bit much for the size of gear.
Awesome! The Trilene Sensation is a copolymer I believe. I like braid in the 6lb size, but I agree that it is a bit of overkill for some fishing.
do you ever use a swivel to connect braid to leader? what are the disadvantages and advantages.
I never do personally just because I like a longer leader. The main disadvantage is that a swivel can't go through the guides so you limit yourself to a small leader. It is fine for certain applications but not my style for most.
Great job
Thank you Dan :)
I use Suffix Advance Fluorocarbon 4# for ultralight. For my light power and on upward, I use Spiderwire Invisibraid, Suffix 832 or J-braid. Any 8 strand braid will do.
For me, Fireline is too stiff and you can see that it is not supple just by looking at it - you won't have uneven curves or kinks in the line when not under resistance. Supple braids cast a lot further than mono or fluoro pound for pound. I see a lot of saltwater anglers using Fireline because of its toughness/abrasion resistance in heavier applications such as for striped bass. Not many use it for finesse fishing (that I know of). I look at your line and I can tell you're gonna have trouble with it.
I switched a reel over to J-Braid and agree it is way better than that Fireline!
I like how you said "the lines as thin as Barbie Hair" lmao
Best thing I could think to compare it to! :D
Do you like that Daiwa Samurai line? I used that same brand last year, 15lb floro for my cranking/chatterbait rod and I personally hated it. It was pretty expensive and I just thought It would be better. I literally used it for one trip and despooled and went back with Seaguar Invizx.
I actually really like it in the 2lb test. I still prefer mono because it isn't quite as brittle. But the Samurai doesn't seem to have memory and it hasn't had a single tangle.
I think fluoro is weird that way though... Some fluoros, I love their light stuff but hate their heavy stuff. Some, vice versa. For bass applications, I tend to just go with Sunline and call it good.
Well when I get my new ultralight reel I am still not to sure . I used florocarbon and ua it cast really good haven't caught anything yet last August. Fishing late. So maybe I might try Mono....
I have had better experience with mono than fluoro for UL fishing. Both are fine options though!
Also in the winter braided line will freeze I experience it.
Yeah it definitely does! Good point!
Love the vid man keep it going you encourage me to make my vids on my channel.
Thanks! I appreciate your support :)
I'm sure you'd cast farther with 2 and 4lb braid vs mono and flouro with the same rating
For sure! The diameter is significantly lower. Honestly since making this video, I’ve played with more brands of braid and I definitely think braid casts as good as any. It’s simply important that you get a good brand that is smooth and not wirey.
Good info!
Thanks :D Hope you've been out catching fish!
Nanofil for the main line and fluorocarbon for the leader. Throw everything else away. I've caught literally thousands of large trout (meaning 20" or longer) on my ultralight using this set up. I've tried about every type of line and nothing beats the Nanofil main line flouro leader. Is Nanofil perfect? Oh heck no and it does wear out faster than regular braid, but it makes up for it in castability, sensitivity, and tiny line diameter.
Good intel! What kind of leader connection knot do you like? I’ve found that nanofil slips pretty bad with my standard double uni
@@FishAnything I use a double uni knot but you have to go 10 wraps with each line. I’ve never had one slip ever and I fish a lot! I only do the 10 wrap with the line to line. For the line to lure I usually only go 5 or 6 wraps, but it’s 10 lbs Fluoro. That might seem heavy, but it’s all about diameter not line weight. A lot of 10 lbs fluoro is the same diameter as 4-6 lbs monofilament. So in short if you have 6 lbs Nanofil with 10 lbs fluoro it’s all the same diameter as 4 lbs mono and with a break strength between 6-10 lbs. pretty tough combo to beat.
I use 4lb mono on a 5'6 ultra light or as a leader with 6lb braided mainline. Same on a 7' med light . Not that I know what I'm doing tho.
Great way to do it. Braid has become my favorite after trying several brands. I like J Braid Grand x8 or Spro Finesse Braid. Super good casting distance!
You two are having too much fun 😀👍🏼
That is always the goal :)