I am an old guy, really like your take on the drop shot fly. The unweighted flies are less expensive. Yes young man you sure got the idea. Thank you for sharing. Good fishing to you.
I also fish nymphs on a drop shot with a 9' medium light spinning rod. I drift my boat on the outside weed edges and catch bass. Great mid and late summer technique!
No need to spend the extra $ on dropshot sinkers.Just use the small bank sinkers ( I have a mold to pour down to 1/32oz)....tying it on like he did through the swivel and around the sinker is called a Cow Hitch knot..been using that since the 70-80's.Before I got the mold I used to just tie a figure 8 knot in the end of the line and add a splitshot,sometimes I still use this method. Didn't notice the upside down float huh? lol
Cool. I kind of stumbled across this method this summer in Colorado. I had a spin rod and thought "Wait, can I use this with flies? What if I put a bobber on the line, so I can cast?" It worked. Trout, in a river. Like a charm.
Excellent! I've been wanting to learn how to catch trout on flies with a spinning rod but all the other videos I've watched are so hit and miss and honestly most of them are just trying to sell you their products from their sponsors. Most of them are just marketing videos, not instructional videos like this one. Finally I understand what to buy, how to set it up and what techniques to use. It explained everything I need to know. Now I need to watch it again and take notes so I can purchase my gear, rig it up and get out there. Thank you so much.
Nice video. I am in my 50’s and live in New England and have been fly fishing since I was 8 and tying flies since 13. I fish all styles. I love the fact that you resonate with the youth and that is wonderful to see - as they will listen to you more than and older man. Anything to get youth out in the environment enjoying nature will create stewards that will protect our environment in the future 0:02 . I have been using many of the rigging techniques you show for almost 20 years when braid first came out. You explained it well. Then you bit your line. After many exterior filling that fill little dents in the incisors, I highly suggest using nippers 100% of the time. Fluoro is harder than mono and over the years it will wear and tear on the teeth and these “fillings are not cheap and they rarely last 5 years.
Nice video. I've been doing this for years as well. To tie braid to mono, I recommend to use a double Uni knot. Works equally as well as your Triple Surgeon. Another way, & is highly recommended, is to tie a swivel to the braid, then the mono to the swivel. Cuts down significantly on line twist. For the float, I use either the clear torpedo or bubble float. The nice part about the bubble is that you can pass the line through the bubble then put the plug back in. If you need more weight to get out even farther, pull the plug, and fill the bubble with water. Do not fill the bubble no more than 1/2 full. Thanks for making it. 😊😊😊
That triple surgeons looks like a better option than Uni to Uni. Not that the Uni to Uni is bad. But tiny line like that, sitting in a kayak, with even a bit of wind, calloused finger tips and older eyeballs makes things challenging enough. Thanks for showing me that!
My most memorable fishing experience was with a dry fly on a closed-face reel with about 8lb mono 5.5' brown Shakespeare from the '80s. You can do quite a bit of dry fly casting without a bubble. Plus there is less disturbance on the water, without the fly line. If you fish ponds or lakes, spin gear eliminates all that back-casting. There is so much small-stream trout fishing that is not much further than 10' from the angler, your rod plus mono/fluorocarbon is all you need. A spin-rod also makes a great 'spey' rod. All you need is a fly line and reel to go with a spin set-up. Short rods make much better bow-casting rods, in my opinion, and actual fly rods are really a bit long for many streams.
Hey buddy we have clear bubble floats in Scotland just fill with water and tie at the end off your line with two/three flies bout 4/5 ft above float add a maggot to the fly and its very successful 😎
I hope you see this after 2 years, but. Do you just float them out and drift, or do you jig them and retrieve? Im not going to lie, for such a simple difference from a setup I am familiar with, it's a little mind blowing to consider.
I just wanted to say I like your videos cuz he explained everything and show it up close some of them skip over a bunch of it and don't teach anything they just do it thank you for your videos
The only gripe I have with this reel is the weight, but that goes with the size of the reel ruclips.net/user/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . I brought this salmon fishing up in Oswego, NY. I coupled it with a Cabela's Whuppin Stick. I had no problem pulling in a 14lb salmon. I will probably use this for surf fishing this summer and downgrade to a 3500 series Battle II next salmon season to save my wrists. All of the operations are butter smooth and the bail is nice and thick and has a solid flip to it. Everything about this reel is sturdy and strong. The drag system held up to the salmon and was also super smooth. I did use a scale to set the drag properly before going out to the river and this worked out tremendously. A bunch of other guys on the river would hook up and snap almost immediately. Just because you have a good drag system doesn't do anything if you don't set it correctly.
55 yrs ago I watched kids with a spinning rod catch trout in a Scottish lake using a clear bubble float with dry flies. That bubble float had a little plug that let them half fill the bubble with water for weight to help them cast. They used a small split shot on the fly end to keep a space between the float and fly and they played it with the reel like you did, to mimic fishing with a fly rod. Those kids caught a lot of trout that day and I caught my first pike on a 5 of diamonds lure that I couldn't believe any fish would take.
The old 5D... I have yet to find a lure that will catch so many species of fish so consistently. While it looks garrish to us, I dont think it looks totaly unnatural to the fish. So many prey species have sides that flash brass or yellowish, and in the horizontal position even the daimond pattern looks like a crude simulation of natural markings.
@Bushleague , I have had a lot of luck with the black fury meps, too. I used to like floating Rapala minnows, but they get hit by fish that are no bigger than them. I could have been selling minnows for a living with a couple of those in some fishing spots. Lol!
@@Kerrsartisticgifts Yeah, as a pike nut, the bulk of my fish are caught on spoons, spinnerbaits, and big F18 Rapalas. Another amazingly universal bait is the white MR Twister, have yet to meet a species of fish that wont hit one of those. I often fish a silver Williams spoon with a single hook on it and white twister threaded onto the hook, for pike its incredibly consistent.
@Bushleague , I was fishing during the night when another old guy showed up, and he had a William's spoon on. He had painted it with glow in the dark paint, and he had the flash from an old camera in his pocket. He flashed the spoon and it glowed really brightly. After about three casts, he had three big fish, and then he left. I could see that spoon shining as far as he could cast it.
@@Kerrsartisticgifts What kind of fish did he catch? Because alot of what you pay for with a Williams is the genuine silve/gold finishes, I cant stand the idea of having any paint covering it up. I just use silver/ gold and change the color of the Mr twister trailer... 3/4 oz Williams, 3/0 single hook. and 3" Mr twister of your choice= Pike dynamite.
I used it for a while too, then I saw a video on a similar but slightly different knot and thought I was just taught wrong. The way I do it now is pretty much the same but I take the loose end after you’ve looped through the last time and put it through the loop that makes and then tighten it down. Holds a little better against strain, in my opinion. But I guess both are actually fishing knots, I never knew 🤷♂️
Lot of pike around here so I use them too. I also use the Blue Fox and Mepps knockoffs because they're bigger. I'll also cut the treble off a 1/4 ounce Panther Martin, add a split ring and then put on a number two blue fox spinner. It makes for an effective double spin that works better than anything you can buy.
Been using this with poppers for bluegill for years, only difference is I use mono line because I want line and popper to float. You can also pull top of that float under water and add water to float for more distance. I’ve caught some nice bass with this setup also.
Same here. I've been fishing this way for decades. I fish dry and wet flies and poppers. I never leave a body of water without catching a fish. Bluegill, Sunnies, Crappie, Bass, white and yellow Perch, and even Pickerel. This is how I taught my kids to fish too though my 22 yr old son now will only fish for bass with rubber worms etc. It was a great way to get them into the sport.
Heck yeah, that's awesome! Another set-up to try is a two-fly rig, where you use weighted bead-head flies to assist with the weight needed to cast further!
You have a lot of great ideas. Two points of contention: 1) If the big, weighted fly isn't going to catch you any fish anyway, why not switch it out for a split shot? A beadhead nymph costs a couple of bucks, a split shot is less than a cent. 2) That is NOT how you use a drop shot sinker. No need to tie a knot. Just put the tail end of your dropshot rig through the loop of the sinker, and pull it up into the pinched part. That way, the hight of the sinker is adjustable. And, if the sinker gets stuck, you'll usually only lose the sinker in stead of the whole rig. Don't sweat it. Nobody gets everything right. Awesome tutorial!
1 -- I have definitely caught fish on the bigger fly 2 -- on line that thin, the weight will slip right off when casting or retrieving without a loop. Also if you cinch thin line up tight without the loop the line will break. Thank you for watching!
Really digging your style man! Clear instructions, good information and a touch of subtle comedy! Hope you are well!! If these storms ever stop coming thru (WA, OR, ID), it'll be time to hit the creeks with some of this new info!! BE WELL
For the dropper on the drop-shot rig, I typically use a ridiculously weighted fly/jig pattern for that ... works well in lakes. Never know ... and as alternative for the bobber/indicator, I sometimes use a large floating fly (same idea = never know).
Thanks for this my boyfriend will use this technique during our uk trout season as it lets him use his gear as it’s dry and wet fly only on rivers 15th March to 15h June
Good video. Your right about the complicated knots some people recommend. Good idea putting a loop on the fly instead of tying it. This will make fly changes faster. I will try this next time I'm out fishing. I normally use those clips for flies, but they have some issues.
Dang!! Was looking all over the Internet last week for tips on fly fishing with a spinning rod. Finally gave up. Then accidentally run across this today. I did run across the bubble bobber though and bought a batch of them last week. Only issue I have is sometimes the fish go after the bobber and it kind of distracts them from the fly a little but I'm just starting for the first time using fly type baits. I normally use bug baits with a 1/80 oz. jig head and do pretty well but that's for pan fish. Not any trout around my location other than lakers in the fall (at least fishing from shore whi8ch is what I do). I get out the big guns though for those lol Great video! Great tips! Great knots! Thanks so much!
The dropshot weight is used by just inserting the line and then yank it up in the pinched loop. That way you can adjust the depth and if the weight will get stuck you only lose the weight and not the whole setup.
I've been a SW fisherman but am getting into FW. I've thought in a few situations Flys would be better but not sure what setup. Really appreciate the 2 methods !!
Ive seen a guy use spinning gear with flies before. He used a crank bait with a wet fly behind it and got more bites on the wet fly. Crank gets their attention and the fly is an easy meal behind it. He also used a painted green spoon as a weight (he said he’s never gotten a trout bite on an all green spoon because he’s convinced they think it’s a leaf. he paints the shiny side with green nail polish) and then ties two wet flies on behind it. Pretty interesting stuff
That's actually genius. It's like a super scaled down version of west coast salmon trolling with big flashers to get attention and little plugs or spoons for the fish to bite behind that.
By the time you've done all that, we see why spinners were made. It is brilliant, but in the waters I've fished, would be a snag nightmare. I've crushed trout on lots of different waters with a tiny mepps or rooster tail, or with a fly behind a bobber. With a fly and spin caster, a pistol Pete is hard to beat. The little prop spinner on the fly is, in my humble opinion, the very best fly for using with a bubble bobber. It will behave much like your bead head nymph, but can be jigged like a spinner too.
It's all good, you can comment your expertise and get people interested all you want, just don't point people to your channel and especially don't dump links to your channel on another channel's videos. Just FRI. Thank you for commenting and showing interest in my videos!
I've been fishing 40 years and have caught thousands of fish. Fish don't get line shy if they don't bite its bad bait presentation. I've caught trout on high vis braid with no leader almost always lol
I thoroughly agree with this. People always talk about line shyness, and yet I’ve never had this issue in 30 years. Not only line shyness, but also I’ve used big clip swivels rather than small barrel swivels when I don’t have them, which people always say the fish will see and it’s bad…but I’ve never had an issue with it.
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Thank you Mark! I would definitely recommend getting those spinners -- not just saying that because they sponsored me either. I was honestly impressed!
Very nice tutorial. Learned much from this video. Have used the bobber and fly method on small ponds in South Dakota and the system works remarkably well. New subscriber.
The FG knots really good even though it takes some time, you can tie a 20 foot leader of it and it will barely affect your castability if at all if you tie it right. You can get a lot of reties out of a 20 foot leader, saving you time in the long-run, Triple surgeon may be easy but its bulky and will rub when going through the guides. I do like using it for loopknots and Sabikis though it's an extremely fast knot, the Surgeon is also one of the only knots you can use for tying lures and connections.
Definitely! Surgeons knot isn't as good for long leaders. I like the Albright knot, FG knot or double uni when I do 40 foot fluoro leaders for carp. Tight lines my friend!!
@@EParkFishing really double uni huh I've never had too much luck with that one especially with lines of vastly different diameter it seems to bulk up too much, I'm a stickler about where and the angle of my tag ends. They have to be sticking out the top of the knot and completely parralel to mainline, barely affecting castability since I throw a lot of lighter jigs.
nice video, the river looks very nice. I was wondering where did you buy the pack of the flies i am trying to get some like those it will help very much.
Great tips. Thsoe spinners look decent too. I hate treble hooks though. I wish more brands would make lures with single hooks so I don't have to buy the lure, buy an inline hook, and swap out the treble hook I will never use.
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Small correction for you.... When you go to larger sizes of braid-to-flouro/mono leaders, you may need to use a different joining knot. I've had 20lb braid cut right through 40lb mono until I started using albright/blood/FG knots. For trout and panfish, your triple surgeons knot is certainly sufficient.
I personally use the improved clinch because I will get big fighters on when I use a hummer at a stock pond. I have also had carp slip that knot off and get away. It just locks it in way better. But I might try that float if I can find it around here.
I dropshot year long for bass and other species in MI. Im headed to a trout river this weekend and was wondering how i could use flies but fish them comfortably and the dropshot fly is genius! I wish i would have been doing that years ago, Cheers!
Thanks for the comment and the compliment! Yeah I thought it was crazy the first time I used it, but it really works! You can even use a smaller fly and in fact the first time I caught a fish on the drop shot fly was on a #10 white grub that was 5 ft above the hook in 5 ft deep water. So the fly was almost on the surface. But it worked! Shows that you never know till you try!
I really appreciate this video. New subscriber. Also, I’ve favoured a double uni knot for braid to mono/flouro for its pretty tight profile. Tried the triple surgeon’s on your advice and, wow, it is a tiny and strong knot. I’m a covert (I fish from a kayak mostly so quick and easy is the name of the game).
Me too! Used to use the double uni all the time and it's still better for castability, but with thinner lines the surgeon's knot is just so much easier and still casts fine. Thank you for the kind words!
Great video. Informative teaching of subtle techniques that catch a lot of species. Nice job. You can add a fly under a rocket bobber to your arsenal too.
Brooo I use the Uni knot. It's amazing. It's so easy to do and you can just tie it twice "Double uni knot" to connect braid to leader. Or run hooks off line. I haven't mastered it but it's the only knot I use and I'm sure to get great at it over time.
Nice! The "grinner" knot is my favorite for big fish. It's a Uni knot, but you run the line through the eye twice. It locks the knot in position on the hook and is ridiculously strong. Thanks for the comment and tight lines!!
Dig that triple surgeons knot cuz I lot the uni knot pretty much just a side by side uni knot. Great vid. Might have to try this setup next time I am out
Back in the day fly fishing socal saltwater, we'd pack a spinning reel just in case the wind was too much for the 6 weights. Carolina rigged clousers work very well
I use flies with a spinner but I use a way easier method and so far it’s been super effective so long as they’re jumping. Works best late afternoon or early morning. I also use braided main line. But I use a 3’ to 4’ leader. I use a clear slip bobber and fill it about 3/4 the way full of water. The leader goes on after, using a swivel. That allows the weight I need to get a lengthy cast then I simply attach the fly. I’ll cast out aiming past where I see fish jump and I slowly pull it back in so the bobber makes a mild chevron pattern on the surface. That’s it. Works great for Brook Trout and Rainbow. If they’re not feeding on the surface I use the same set up but instead of a bobber I use a heavy egg sinker above the swivel and using a 3’ to 5’ leader I’ll throw some power bait or whatever they’re eating on a treble hook and send it out. Let it sink to the bottom and let the bait rise. Yesterday I pulled a 19” at 2lbs 4 oz and I 14” at about 1lbs 7 oz. Using the “redneck fly” (as it’s referred to around here) I pulled 3 Brooks in about an hour, all just shy of 2 lbs. The way you’re doing it obviously works. So I’m not bad talking it. And it looks like it’s pretty fun. Probably better for streams and rivers. I’m always on a lake so I think the redneck fly would work better. If you find yourself casting from shore on a lake or reservoir you should try it out and let me know what you think.
Overall a great and informative video. I have to point out, however, a couple of issues with what you said. Nearly every knot in the line is a weak spot. The triple surgeons knot is 60-70 % as strong as the line. The FG, SC, and even the double uni are all stronger knots. As such, the only time a line will break short of a knot is if it is somehow damaged. Knots matter! Also, I would only loop around a dropshot weight if the line was too thin the catch in the pinch point. That way if it does get stuck you can pull the line out without breaking off. On the other hand, a single overhand knot will likely break before the other knots.
I like the video, it was very informative, and easy to watch, but I do recommend taking your video to Adobe light room, or similar program, to bring down the brightness levels a bit. The brightness of the midday sun is washing out your colors, and whiting out your closeups. Just a little adjustment, and you will have a better, more watchable video.
Besides flies I've used the casting bubble to fish a worm with no weight, usually on a very slow retrieve but you can let it sit in fishy spots too. I drop shot nymphs much closer to the sinker, within a foot, and just let the sinker bounce allong the bottom on a tight line, the most effective way to catch Mountain Whitefish for sure. And a nymph under a slip bobber, sweetened with a little tab of worm is killer for stillwater brookies.
Try a big late summer 'hopper. Hook him through the exoskeleton on his back right above the lower part. He'll be alive and kicking for 5+ minutes if you use a small, light hook that doesn't drown him too fast. Hard for a trout to resist a live, kicking 'hopper. Be careful though because you'll outfish the dry fly guys and really tick them off. LOL
I build a hand-tied tapered leader. The butt-section is about 4-feet of 30-lbs mono, the I work my way down to 4lbs tippet. I'd just buy a tapered leader, but, I'm stubborn. Using all-monofilament, the leader is attached to the line in my spincast reel. I don't use a bubble, but, but, it remains an option. Knots are an issue with reeling in all the way, but, so is the case with a fly rod, the dry fly is attached to the tip-top, and the leader is zig-zagged around the rod and reel seat, back to the tip-top, and back to the reel, so I don't have to reel-in any knots. Nail-knots on the finer mono, a double overhand knot terminates the fatter sections. My 5.5-foot Eagle Claw Classic Glass spinning rod will cast dry flies with greater sensitivity than my 7-foot, 3wt fly rod with fly line! I really don't like my fly rods because they are too long for tight spaces, and hiking in thick brush. The set-up does a great job with a 'bow-cast!' Perhaps holding a loop of leader so the fly doesn't get snagged on vegetation. It is the ultimate ultra-light rig for small streams, smaller trout. A fly reel with fly line can usually mount to the spinning rod, if you want to fish a sinking line, windy conditions, or if you need more distance. I typically fish streams that are so small that you can cross them without getting your shoes too wet, using dry flies that are size 18 to 22. Try it out on the lawn the backyard, you might be surprised.
I saw in another video with that dropshot weight you can also just tie an overhand knot then put the dropshot weight on and wedge the knot into the top triangle part of the dropshot. Either way. I liked the way you explained stuff, good camera work!
I have a 9ft ultralight ugly stick. I'll have to try throwing some flies... I just like it because it launches small-medium sized baits further than a surf rod and it's nice for trolling with tiny crankbaits too.
"Fly fishing only" means the full set up -- fly rod, fly reel and fly line. I have called the Oregon department of fish and wildlife and that was their definition. It could be different in other states though.
I have made some flies with one seed bead and black sewing thread that resembles a distressed fly. the little panfish love it. I want the larger fish. Possibly I need to learn more about where the larger fish hang out.
@@t_poutsider cool! I have a video of how I set-up the two fly rig on my channel, as well as a video where I catch a lot of mountain stream trout on the set-up, if you're interested in checking it out! 🙂✌️🎣
@@shawnhenderson1130 ahh if I was fishing in a river or lake I would use 1, but I'll be fishing in a small drainage ditch and using different methods of fishing, in this ditch I've seen alot of natural surface bait being taken so floating bread doesn't work but flies just might be the ticket 👌👍🤞
Try to check out spirolinos. They are crystall clear and you can get them in all kinds of weight. Works perfect in the baltic for seatrout fishing with flies. You can easily cast a fly 40 or 50 yds. with a spirolino. Works with dry and wet flies.
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I am an old guy, really like your take on the drop shot fly. The unweighted flies are less expensive. Yes young man you sure got the idea. Thank you for sharing. Good fishing to you.
Thanks Thomas! It seemed like a crazy idea the first time I used it, but it has worked well. Cheers!
I also fish nymphs on a drop shot with a 9' medium light spinning rod. I drift my boat on the outside weed edges and catch bass. Great mid and late summer technique!
No need to spend the extra $ on dropshot sinkers.Just use the small bank sinkers ( I have a mold to pour down to 1/32oz)....tying it on like he did through the swivel and around the sinker is called a Cow Hitch knot..been using that since the 70-80's.Before I got the mold I used to just tie a figure 8 knot in the end of the line and add a splitshot,sometimes I still use this method.
Didn't notice the upside down float huh? lol
@@EParkFishing been doing this for many years try partial flooding of the float for casting distance
Cool. I kind of stumbled across this method this summer in Colorado. I had a spin rod and thought "Wait, can I use this with flies? What if I put a bobber on the line, so I can cast?" It worked. Trout, in a river. Like a charm.
Excellent! I've been wanting to learn how to catch trout on flies with a spinning rod but all the other videos I've watched are so hit and miss and honestly most of them are just trying to sell you their products from their sponsors. Most of them are just marketing videos, not instructional videos like this one. Finally I understand what to buy, how to set it up and what techniques to use. It explained everything I need to know. Now I need to watch it again and take notes so I can purchase my gear, rig it up and get out there. Thank you so much.
It's great to hear you found so much value in this video! Thanks for the kind words and tight lines! 🙏🎣
Nice video. I am in my 50’s and live in New England and have been fly fishing since I was 8 and tying flies since 13. I fish all styles. I love the fact that you resonate with the youth and that is wonderful to see - as they will listen to you more than and older man. Anything to get youth out in the environment enjoying nature will create stewards that will protect our environment in the future 0:02 . I have been using many of the rigging techniques you show for almost 20 years when braid first came out. You explained it well. Then you bit your line. After many exterior filling that fill little dents in the incisors, I highly suggest using nippers 100% of the time. Fluoro is harder than mono and over the years it will wear and tear on the teeth and these “fillings are not cheap and they rarely last 5 years.
It never occurred to me that biting the line is hurting my teeth. Thanks for that knowledge
Nice video. I've been doing this for years as well.
To tie braid to mono, I recommend to use a double Uni knot. Works equally as well as your Triple Surgeon. Another way, & is highly recommended, is to tie a swivel to the braid, then the mono to the swivel. Cuts down significantly on line twist.
For the float, I use either the clear torpedo or bubble float. The nice part about the bubble is that you can pass the line through the bubble then put the plug back in. If you need more weight to get out even farther, pull the plug, and fill the bubble with water. Do not fill the bubble no more than 1/2 full.
Thanks for making it. 😊😊😊
That triple surgeons looks like a better option than Uni to Uni. Not that the Uni to Uni is bad. But tiny line like that, sitting in a kayak, with even a bit of wind, calloused finger tips and older eyeballs makes things challenging enough. Thanks for showing me that!
My most memorable fishing experience was with a dry fly on a closed-face reel with about 8lb mono 5.5' brown Shakespeare from the '80s. You can do quite a bit of dry fly casting without a bubble. Plus there is less disturbance on the water, without the fly line. If you fish ponds or lakes, spin gear eliminates all that back-casting. There is so much small-stream trout fishing that is not much further than 10' from the angler, your rod plus mono/fluorocarbon is all you need.
A spin-rod also makes a great 'spey' rod. All you need is a fly line and reel to go with a spin set-up. Short rods make much better bow-casting rods, in my opinion, and actual fly rods are really a bit long for many streams.
Hey buddy we have clear bubble floats in Scotland just fill with water and tie at the end off your line with two/three flies bout 4/5 ft above float add a maggot to the fly and its very successful 😎
I hope you see this after 2 years, but. Do you just float them out and drift, or do you jig them and retrieve? Im not going to lie, for such a simple difference from a setup I am familiar with, it's a little mind blowing to consider.
I just wanted to say I like your videos cuz he explained everything and show it up close some of them skip over a bunch of it and don't teach anything they just do it thank you for your videos
The only gripe I have with this reel is the weight, but that goes with the size of the reel ruclips.net/user/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . I brought this salmon fishing up in Oswego, NY. I coupled it with a Cabela's Whuppin Stick. I had no problem pulling in a 14lb salmon. I will probably use this for surf fishing this summer and downgrade to a 3500 series Battle II next salmon season to save my wrists. All of the operations are butter smooth and the bail is nice and thick and has a solid flip to it. Everything about this reel is sturdy and strong. The drag system held up to the salmon and was also super smooth. I did use a scale to set the drag properly before going out to the river and this worked out tremendously. A bunch of other guys on the river would hook up and snap almost immediately. Just because you have a good drag system doesn't do anything if you don't set it correctly.
Love the video. Been a fan of using flies with a spin rod and you've taken it to where I want to go.
55 yrs ago I watched kids with a spinning rod catch trout in a Scottish lake using a clear bubble float with dry flies. That bubble float had a little plug that let them half fill the bubble with water for weight to help them cast.
They used a small split shot on the fly end to keep a space between the float and fly and they played it with the reel like you did, to mimic fishing with a fly rod. Those kids caught a lot of trout that day and I caught my first pike on a 5 of diamonds lure that I couldn't believe any fish would take.
The old 5D... I have yet to find a lure that will catch so many species of fish so consistently. While it looks garrish to us, I dont think it looks totaly unnatural to the fish. So many prey species have sides that flash brass or yellowish, and in the horizontal position even the daimond pattern looks like a crude simulation of natural markings.
@Bushleague , I have had a lot of luck with the black fury meps, too. I used to like floating Rapala minnows, but they get hit by fish that are no bigger than them. I could have been selling minnows for a living with a couple of those in some fishing spots. Lol!
@@Kerrsartisticgifts Yeah, as a pike nut, the bulk of my fish are caught on spoons, spinnerbaits, and big F18 Rapalas. Another amazingly universal bait is the white MR Twister, have yet to meet a species of fish that wont hit one of those. I often fish a silver Williams spoon with a single hook on it and white twister threaded onto the hook, for pike its incredibly consistent.
@Bushleague , I was fishing during the night when another old guy showed up, and he had a William's spoon on. He had painted it with glow in the dark paint, and he had the flash from an old camera in his pocket. He flashed the spoon and it glowed really brightly. After about three casts, he had three big fish, and then he left. I could see that spoon shining as far as he could cast it.
@@Kerrsartisticgifts What kind of fish did he catch? Because alot of what you pay for with a Williams is the genuine silve/gold finishes, I cant stand the idea of having any paint covering it up. I just use silver/ gold and change the color of the Mr twister trailer... 3/4 oz Williams, 3/0 single hook. and 3" Mr twister of your choice= Pike dynamite.
I was just about to comment “don’t finish the video on a skunk”, and then tight lines. Great video, my first of yours, I’ll be trying this. Thanks
this is the exact knot I have used for the last 5 years. It really does a great job. good video
I used it for a while too, then I saw a video on a similar but slightly different knot and thought I was just taught wrong. The way I do it now is pretty much the same but I take the loose end after you’ve looped through the last time and put it through the loop that makes and then tighten it down. Holds a little better against strain, in my opinion. But I guess both are actually fishing knots, I never knew 🤷♂️
Been using the triple surgeon knot for years…great knot and awsome for attaching a dropper.👌👍
I love those spinners. Panther Martin stole my lunch money last year 😂
Lot of pike around here so I use them too. I also use the Blue Fox and Mepps knockoffs because they're bigger. I'll also cut the treble off a 1/4 ounce Panther Martin, add a split ring and then put on a number two blue fox spinner. It makes for an effective double spin that works better than anything you can buy.
I've absolutely slayed with a super small panther martin in black with silver or gold spoons. It's one of my, "are there even fish in here?" lures.
I was happy to see you finally catch that trout!!
Thank you for the tips!!👍😁
Wow thanks for showing the different knots, making that loop was pretty impressive I haven’t seen that one before
Same here. I might need to use it
You're welcome!! It's a great knot! 🎣🎣🎣
Been using this with poppers for bluegill for years, only difference is I use mono line because I want line and popper to float. You can also pull top of that float under water and add water to float for more distance. I’ve caught some nice bass with this setup also.
Same here. I've been fishing this way for decades. I fish dry and wet flies and poppers. I never leave a body of water without catching a fish.
Bluegill, Sunnies, Crappie, Bass, white and yellow Perch, and even Pickerel. This is how I taught my kids to fish too though my 22 yr old son now will only fish for bass with rubber worms etc. It was a great way to get them into the sport.
fluoro floats just fine, of you fish dry flies you do not want mono at all.
Been doing this for years, caught 3 of the biggest native brown trout I ever caught with it. 1/ 27 1/2 and 2/ 28 1/2 inchers.
Heck yeah, that's awesome! Another set-up to try is a two-fly rig, where you use weighted bead-head flies to assist with the weight needed to cast further!
You have a lot of great ideas. Two points of contention:
1) If the big, weighted fly isn't going to catch you any fish anyway, why not switch it out for a split shot? A beadhead nymph costs a couple of bucks, a split shot is less than a cent.
2) That is NOT how you use a drop shot sinker. No need to tie a knot. Just put the tail end of your dropshot rig through the loop of the sinker, and pull it up into the pinched part. That way, the hight of the sinker is adjustable. And, if the sinker gets stuck, you'll usually only lose the sinker in stead of the whole rig.
Don't sweat it. Nobody gets everything right. Awesome tutorial!
1 -- I have definitely caught fish on the bigger fly
2 -- on line that thin, the weight will slip right off when casting or retrieving without a loop. Also if you cinch thin line up tight without the loop the line will break.
Thank you for watching!
Awesome video! My Great Grandmother taught me way back this method for brook trout !
Love it when someone does a fishing video and they do a great job with the video and at the same time passing along the knowledge. Well Done!!!
Very good instruction, well described and with a calm voice. Superb!
Really digging your style man!
Clear instructions, good information and a touch of subtle comedy!
Hope you are well!!
If these storms ever stop coming thru (WA, OR, ID), it'll be time to hit the creeks with some of this new info!!
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For the dropper on the drop-shot rig, I typically use a ridiculously weighted fly/jig pattern for that ... works well in lakes. Never know ... and as alternative for the bobber/indicator, I sometimes use a large floating fly (same idea = never know).
Very informative video my friend.those knots will come in handy
That’s how I got into fly fishing. Great job. 😊💪👊
Thanks for this my boyfriend will use this technique during our uk trout season as it lets him use his gear as it’s dry and wet fly only on rivers 15th March to 15h June
Good video. Your right about the complicated knots some people recommend. Good idea putting a loop on the fly instead of tying it. This will make fly changes faster. I will try this next time I'm out fishing. I normally use those clips for flies, but they have some issues.
Dang!! Was looking all over the Internet last week for tips on fly fishing with a spinning rod. Finally gave up. Then accidentally run across this today. I did run across the bubble bobber though and bought a batch of them last week. Only issue I have is sometimes the fish go after the bobber and it kind of distracts them from the fly a little but I'm just starting for the first time using fly type baits.
I normally use bug baits with a 1/80 oz. jig head and do pretty well but that's for pan fish. Not any trout around my location other than lakers in the fall (at least fishing from shore whi8ch is what I do). I get out the big guns though for those lol Great video! Great tips! Great knots! Thanks so much!
Another set-up to try is a two-fly rig, where you use weighted bead-head flies to assist with the weight needed to cast further!
@@KevinRapkochFishing I'll have to look into that. Thanks again :))
Wow didn’t know about this kind of fishing. Thanks for all the content will share it.
The dropshot weight is used by just inserting the line and then yank it up in the pinched loop. That way you can adjust the depth and if the weight will get stuck you only lose the weight and not the whole setup.
Uhh... whut?
@@livenhfree He's right. That's the reason the eye on the dropshot weight is shaped like that. If the weight gets snagged you can pull your rig free.
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Another set-up to try is a two-fly rig, where you use weighted bead-head flies to assist with the weight needed to cast further!
I've been a SW fisherman but am getting into FW. I've thought in a few situations Flys would be better but not sure what setup.
Really appreciate the 2 methods !!
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Great video, that drop shot loop knot for the fly was awesome.
Thanks for the easy to understand instructions with tying the knots.
Nice ideas man! Like it a lot! Just started fly fishing again and looking always for some different new ideas.
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Another set-up to try is a two-fly rig, where you use weighted bead-head flies to assist with the weight needed to cast further!
@@KevinRapkochFishing a some nymphs with the small weight on their heads. Good idea too :)
Dude, I cannot believe I've been drop shotting all these years, and never knew you could do that with the weight.
very similar to a uni to uni knot. has never failed me. thanks bro. tight lines
Ive seen a guy use spinning gear with flies before. He used a crank bait with a wet fly behind it and got more bites on the wet fly. Crank gets their attention and the fly is an easy meal behind it. He also used a painted green spoon as a weight (he said he’s never gotten a trout bite on an all green spoon because he’s convinced they think it’s a leaf. he paints the shiny side with green nail polish) and then ties two wet flies on behind it. Pretty interesting stuff
Yeah that's old school
That's actually genius. It's like a super scaled down version of west coast salmon trolling with big flashers to get attention and little plugs or spoons for the fish to bite behind that.
By the time you've done all that, we see why spinners were made. It is brilliant, but in the waters I've fished, would be a snag nightmare.
I've crushed trout on lots of different waters with a tiny mepps or rooster tail, or with a fly behind a bobber. With a fly and spin caster, a pistol Pete is hard to beat. The little prop spinner on the fly is, in my humble opinion, the very best fly for using with a bubble bobber. It will behave much like your bead head nymph, but can be jigged like a spinner too.
Thanks for inspiration. I’ll work flies into my fishing now. Good fishing to you 🪰🐟
Another set-up to try is a two-fly rig, where you use weighted bead-head flies to assist with the weight needed to cast further!
@@KevinRapkochFishing Thank you. That sounds interesting. Good fishing to you 🧚🏻♀️🦈
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It's all good, you can comment your expertise and get people interested all you want, just don't point people to your channel and especially don't dump links to your channel on another channel's videos. Just FRI. Thank you for commenting and showing interest in my videos!
Cheers, for knot tip, I think what I use is a double uni. I’ll try that knot tonight
I've been fishing 40 years and have caught thousands of fish. Fish don't get line shy if they don't bite its bad bait presentation. I've caught trout on high vis braid with no leader almost always lol
Why do you have to type "lol" at the end of every comment?
I thoroughly agree with this. People always talk about line shyness, and yet I’ve never had this issue in 30 years. Not only line shyness, but also I’ve used big clip swivels rather than small barrel swivels when I don’t have them, which people always say the fish will see and it’s bad…but I’ve never had an issue with it.
@@ebisu8824 why do you care
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Excellent video! Perfect explanations. Can't wait to try these out. You've earned yourself a new sub. :)
Thank you for the video, it helped me greatly... learnt so much. Cheers from Canada
Great video! Thanks for making me aware of your sponsor. I used to use a similar type of spinner when I was a kid and caught everything with them. Gold Colorado blades are superior.
Thank you Mark! I would definitely recommend getting those spinners -- not just saying that because they sponsored me either. I was honestly impressed!
Liked and subscribed because that was a wonderful informative vid! Thanks again I’m going to check out your other vids now!
Super great job with this video. Can’t wait to get out on the water and try this method of fishing 🎣
Thanks for the tips. Nice catch on the bugger!
Very nice tutorial. Learned much from this video. Have used the bobber and fly method on small ponds in South Dakota and the system works remarkably well. New subscriber.
Thank you Bill K!! Welcome to the channel!
The FG knots really good even though it takes some time, you can tie a 20 foot leader of it and it will barely affect your castability if at all if you tie it right. You can get a lot of reties out of a 20 foot leader, saving you time in the long-run, Triple surgeon may be easy but its bulky and will rub when going through the guides. I do like using it for loopknots and Sabikis though it's an extremely fast knot, the Surgeon is also one of the only knots you can use for tying lures and connections.
Definitely! Surgeons knot isn't as good for long leaders. I like the Albright knot, FG knot or double uni when I do 40 foot fluoro leaders for carp. Tight lines my friend!!
@@EParkFishing really double uni huh I've never had too much luck with that one especially with lines of vastly different diameter it seems to bulk up too much, I'm a stickler about where and the angle of my tag ends. They have to be sticking out the top of the knot and completely parralel to mainline, barely affecting castability since I throw a lot of lighter jigs.
i feel the fg is only necessary for heavier lines.
@@jpslupik it has a lot of applications, it can be just as effective on lighter lines you just gotta tie it a bit different
nice video, the river looks very nice. I was wondering where did you buy the pack of the flies i am trying to get some like those it will help very much.
Great tips. Thsoe spinners look decent too. I hate treble hooks though. I wish more brands would make lures with single hooks so I don't have to buy the lure, buy an inline hook, and swap out the treble hook I will never use.
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also you can use carolina and texas rig with streamer
We Asian here using this method for catching Peacock bass and tarpon
that 9ft leader measurement thing is pure genius.
This was an awesome video! Thank you so much for all the information. I look forward to giving it a go.
Let me know how it goes! Tight lines! 🎣🎣🎣
glad you were able to nab a trout before the end of the video
Thank you for this tutorial. I am very surprised of bobber fishing even if i knew about it before. Going to try in 2024❤🎉
Thanks for the video! I can’t wait to try out flies on the river. I ordered some of those lures too.
You're welcome!! Hope it goes well for ya!
I bought some of those spinners. Can't wait to try them out in indiana on bass and crappie. Thanks for the tips
very cool video. i like to flyfish and use rod&reel. now i can swap my gear around lol.
Small correction for you....
When you go to larger sizes of braid-to-flouro/mono leaders, you may need to use a different joining knot. I've had 20lb braid cut right through 40lb mono until I started using albright/blood/FG knots.
For trout and panfish, your triple surgeons knot is certainly sufficient.
I personally use the improved clinch because I will get big fighters on when I use a hummer at a stock pond. I have also had carp slip that knot off and get away. It just locks it in way better. But I might try that float if I can find it around here.
I usually secure my knots with a drop of superglue or UV resin.
Works a treat, and prevents the line from choking itself to death at the knot.
I dropshot year long for bass and other species in MI. Im headed to a trout river this weekend and was wondering how i could use flies but fish them comfortably and the dropshot fly is genius! I wish i would have been doing that years ago, Cheers!
Thanks for the comment and the compliment! Yeah I thought it was crazy the first time I used it, but it really works! You can even use a smaller fly and in fact the first time I caught a fish on the drop shot fly was on a #10 white grub that was 5 ft above the hook in 5 ft deep water. So the fly was almost on the surface. But it worked! Shows that you never know till you try!
I really appreciate this video. New subscriber.
Also, I’ve favoured a double uni knot for braid to mono/flouro for its pretty tight profile. Tried the triple surgeon’s on your advice and, wow, it is a tiny and strong knot. I’m a covert (I fish from a kayak mostly so quick and easy is the name of the game).
Me too! Used to use the double uni all the time and it's still better for castability, but with thinner lines the surgeon's knot is just so much easier and still casts fine. Thank you for the kind words!
Great video. Informative teaching of subtle techniques that catch a lot of species. Nice job. You can add a fly under a rocket bobber to your arsenal too.
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it!!
Nice vide clear tips, cheers mate.
Brooo I use the Uni knot. It's amazing. It's so easy to do and you can just tie it twice "Double uni knot" to connect braid to leader. Or run hooks off line. I haven't mastered it but it's the only knot I use and I'm sure to get great at it over time.
Nice! The "grinner" knot is my favorite for big fish. It's a Uni knot, but you run the line through the eye twice. It locks the knot in position on the hook and is ridiculously strong. Thanks for the comment and tight lines!!
@@EParkFishing Thanks for the tip hehe!
Dig that triple surgeons knot cuz I lot the uni knot pretty much just a side by side uni knot. Great vid. Might have to try this setup next time I am out
Excellent video! This is how it should be done. Just subscribed!
Excellent ideas! Kind Thanks 👍
Another set-up to try is a two-fly rig, where you use weighted bead-head flies to assist with the weight needed to cast further!
Back in the day fly fishing socal saltwater, we'd pack a spinning reel just in case the wind was too much for the 6 weights. Carolina rigged clousers work very well
I use flies with a spinner but I use a way easier method and so far it’s been super effective so long as they’re jumping. Works best late afternoon or early morning. I also use braided main line. But I use a 3’ to 4’ leader. I use a clear slip bobber and fill it about 3/4 the way full of water. The leader goes on after, using a swivel. That allows the weight I need to get a lengthy cast then I simply attach the fly. I’ll cast out aiming past where I see fish jump and I slowly pull it back in so the bobber makes a mild chevron pattern on the surface. That’s it. Works great for Brook Trout and Rainbow. If they’re not feeding on the surface I use the same set up but instead of a bobber I use a heavy egg sinker above the swivel and using a 3’ to 5’ leader I’ll throw some power bait or whatever they’re eating on a treble hook and send it out. Let it sink to the bottom and let the bait rise. Yesterday I pulled a 19” at 2lbs 4 oz and I 14” at about 1lbs 7 oz. Using the “redneck fly” (as it’s referred to around here) I pulled 3 Brooks in about an hour, all just shy of 2 lbs. The way you’re doing it obviously works. So I’m not bad talking it. And it looks like it’s pretty fun. Probably better for streams and rivers. I’m always on a lake so I think the redneck fly would work better. If you find yourself casting from shore on a lake or reservoir you should try it out and let me know what you think.
Overall a great and informative video.
I have to point out, however, a couple of issues with what you said.
Nearly every knot in the line is a weak spot. The triple surgeons knot is 60-70 % as strong as the line. The FG, SC, and even the double uni are all stronger knots.
As such, the only time a line will break short of a knot is if it is somehow damaged.
Knots matter!
Also, I would only loop around a dropshot weight if the line was too thin the catch in the pinch point. That way if it does get stuck you can pull the line out without breaking off. On the other hand, a single overhand knot will likely break before the other knots.
Good video man.. I m learning from u. Keep the good stuff coming.
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I like the video, it was very informative, and easy to watch, but I do recommend taking your video to Adobe light room, or similar program, to bring down the brightness levels a bit. The brightness of the midday sun is washing out your colors, and whiting out your closeups. Just a little adjustment, and you will have a better, more watchable video.
Great video .. thank you so much . In detail and helpful
Very informative video, I will be using your information to fish a river near my home.
Besides flies I've used the casting bubble to fish a worm with no weight, usually on a very slow retrieve but you can let it sit in fishy spots too. I drop shot nymphs much closer to the sinker, within a foot, and just let the sinker bounce allong the bottom on a tight line, the most effective way to catch Mountain Whitefish for sure. And a nymph under a slip bobber, sweetened with a little tab of worm is killer for stillwater brookies.
Try a big late summer 'hopper. Hook him through the exoskeleton on his back right above the lower part. He'll be alive and kicking for 5+ minutes if you use a small, light hook that doesn't drown him too fast. Hard for a trout to resist a live, kicking 'hopper. Be careful though because you'll outfish the dry fly guys and really tick them off. LOL
Been doing this for years one of the best fishing techniques there is well done 🙃🐟🐟
Nice trout man! Im still trying to catch my first ever trout. 😂
I build a hand-tied tapered leader. The butt-section is about 4-feet of 30-lbs mono, the I work my way down to 4lbs tippet. I'd just buy a tapered leader, but, I'm stubborn. Using all-monofilament, the leader is attached to the line in my spincast reel. I don't use a bubble, but, but, it remains an option. Knots are an issue with reeling in all the way, but, so is the case with a fly rod, the dry fly is attached to the tip-top, and the leader is zig-zagged around the rod and reel seat, back to the tip-top, and back to the reel, so I don't have to reel-in any knots. Nail-knots on the finer mono, a double overhand knot terminates the fatter sections. My 5.5-foot Eagle Claw Classic Glass spinning rod will cast dry flies with greater sensitivity than my 7-foot, 3wt fly rod with fly line! I really don't like my fly rods because they are too long for tight spaces, and hiking in thick brush. The set-up does a great job with a 'bow-cast!' Perhaps holding a loop of leader so the fly doesn't get snagged on vegetation. It is the ultimate ultra-light rig for small streams, smaller trout. A fly reel with fly line can usually mount to the spinning rod, if you want to fish a sinking line, windy conditions, or if you need more distance. I typically fish streams that are so small that you can cross them without getting your shoes too wet, using dry flies that are size 18 to 22. Try it out on the lawn the backyard, you might be surprised.
I saw in another video with that dropshot weight you can also just tie an overhand knot then put the dropshot weight on and wedge the knot into the top triangle part of the dropshot. Either way. I liked the way you explained stuff, good camera work!
Super useful, thank you
I have a 9ft ultralight ugly stick. I'll have to try throwing some flies... I just like it because it launches small-medium sized baits further than a surf rod and it's nice for trolling with tiny crankbaits too.
Solid video.
Clear bobber, swivel, 5-8 foot leader, fly. I’ve caught hundreds of fish with that setup.
Sure, and so have I, BUT is it LEGAL in a "fly fishing only waterway", that is the question I am trying to answer
"Fly fishing only" means the full set up -- fly rod, fly reel and fly line. I have called the Oregon department of fish and wildlife and that was their definition. It could be different in other states though.
@@EParkFishing thanks good onput
You're knots are so easy to follow. Great vids
I have made some flies with one seed bead and black sewing thread that resembles a distressed fly. the little panfish love it. I want the larger fish. Possibly I need to learn more about where the larger fish hang out.
Great video fella, ive just purchased some flies and was wondering the best way to use them, this has helped me massively... cheers
Another set-up to try is a two-fly rig, where you use weighted bead-head flies to assist with the weight needed to cast further!
@@KevinRapkochFishing cheers, I'll try all 3 methods and see how it goes 💪
@@t_poutsider cool! I have a video of how I set-up the two fly rig on my channel, as well as a video where I catch a lot of mountain stream trout on the set-up, if you're interested in checking it out! 🙂✌️🎣
A fly rod works wonders with flies too
@@shawnhenderson1130 ahh if I was fishing in a river or lake I would use 1, but I'll be fishing in a small drainage ditch and using different methods of fishing, in this ditch I've seen alot of natural surface bait being taken so floating bread doesn't work but flies just might be the ticket 👌👍🤞
Try to check out spirolinos. They are crystall clear and you can get them in all kinds of weight. Works perfect in the baltic for seatrout fishing with flies. You can easily cast a fly 40 or 50 yds. with a spirolino. Works with dry and wet flies.
Legend, thanks for the knowledge