One of the purposes of the F22 electronics and weapons packages is to virtually eliminate the likelihood of getting into a close-in dogfight in the first place. It can detect and ID aircraft from over 200 miles away, and ideally can "take out" an enemy aircraft before the enemy even knows the F22 is there. While a dogfight is possible, it's not the most probable threat to an F22 on any given mission.
As has been mentioned, the pilots of the Raptor aren't permitted to really show what it can do at the air shows. They do mostly normal things. Since no Russian plane has gone up against our F-22, they can speculate all they want, but when the s#!t hits the fan, I'll venture they will be very sadly surprised!!
Wonder why it doesn't get used & it's been retired must be so fantastic so good on every level. The US has spent over a trillion dollars replacing it with a flying pig. Do you ever get the feeling you've been filled full of shit?
The new thing will a squadron of 6 gen fighters supervising our latest drones. You know China is thinking about what will happen if they attack Taiwan, I expect they will loose Taiwan Hong Kong Tibet and Mongolia if they try to attack Taiwan.
@@thesirmaddog8209 it would need to be done for real not on a computer. Don't be angry that the eurofighter is better but it's cool because the F22 boy that is a hard to beat fighter however that's probably why you would not be able to make more just to expensive
Typhoon is a great 4th Gen fighter for sure. High maneuverability, very good offensive and defensive tech onboard. It should not be underestimated. The F22 though is in another generation completely. TV and Stealth combined with its BVR effectiveness and you have the clear advantage over the Typhoon. Not saying that it couldn’t happen. It could in some specific circumstances where the Typhoon was able to negate all of the F22s advantages, yes. But then that would be the same for any fighter. Otherwise, 99 out 100 to the Raptor.
The radar cross section of a Raptor is that of a very small bird. The radar cross section of a typhoon is several meters. There is no contest between these two aircraft.
1. When mentioning the Su27 and MiG29, the video showed a MiG25 Foxbat. 2. The typhoon is in the air force of the UK, not England. 3. The PANAVIA Tornado is British/German/Italian, not just German.
Yep, the UK is England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland - and the Typhoon couldn’t hit an aircraft over 200 miles away in any kind of weather, including moonshine. But the F-22 can. Euro Fighter pilots are a crack up.
EVERY foreign plane outperforms EVERY new US fighter, that is widely reported to be an utter crap, UNTIL the shooting starts. Then we know it goes, was just watching video about Grippen VS F 35. If you think it over, consider all factors, there is NO chance that a small Sweden can still produce anything approaching the new US tech. Sorry guy, but the new tech gets astronomically complicated and expensive and you can NEVER achieve the scale of economy that F35 will achieve.
@@Spectre-wd9dl yes the F-16 is one nimble and very powerful jet fighter, especially since the upgrades to it's jet engine and it's fly by wire pretty much let's it manuever right out to and at times out past it's inherent instability that was purposefully built into the planes capabilities. The seat is laid back to help keep blood flowing to the pilots brain .I believe that for the longest time the F-16 could pull more G's than any other fighter in service with the US Air Force and Navy too.
@@aigomorla Yet to hear all the "experts" the two US fighters that have proven themselves in combat time and again are outclassed I doubt it. Both the F16 and F18 have been very upgraded. Neither the Euro or the French fighter are any more stealthy. Nor have they ever seen real combat. As for the F22. It is very stealthy as well as very maneuverable, very fast as well as having an integrated targeting system. It too is not battle tested but I believe in any even confrontation it will be the victor if the pilots skills are any good at all.
The fact is the Typhoon pilot would not know that the Raptor is even in range until the missiles from the Raptor are launched. Then it’s too late. Once the Raptor pilot shuts the doors he’s invisible again. This is however a very nice propaganda piece by the Europeans. The Typhoon probably could defeat just about anything flying, but to claim it is somehow better than the Raptor? 🙄
Just bring the Eurofighter and any other potential contenders to the Fighter Weapons School... aka... Top Gun ??? And let some Professional Pilots put the Aircraft to a real test !!! I do not see any other sensible way forward... Real Pilots, Real Planes, Real Data !!! Best of the Best !!!
@@alanjames5586 That's very good mate... I have no intention of getting into a pissing contest with you... If NATO gets involved with current hostilities in Ukraine or elsewhere ??? All of you guys will be the tip of the Spear for Air Superiority/Dominance and will have to depend upon each other in any Major Campaign... I respect all that fly the Hot Rods of the Sky... My dream would be the Apache Attack Helicopter or the A-10 Warthog to unleash Hell upon the enemy !!!
The problem is $'s & cents. What good is a fighter, if you can't AFFORD IT, IN ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT IT???? The original order of F-22's was cut, over half of the order. Hence the F-15X's. The only way the F-35 survived, they were allowed to sell to our allies. Look, before you too call me a commie, I love my country. My family has been here longer than the US has existed. I served 6 great years. Loved it. Learned SOOO MUCH. Some of my buddies died in the Middle East. I miss them to this day. BUT, my common sense has gotten me this far in life. I know this, when you cannot afford something, then you're unable to use it, so it's no good to you. We do not have enough F-22, or F-35 to defend America. Are they cool? Duh! Yeah. We have the brightest and best people. Where we fall short, common sense. The next great American fighter will come. It just hasn't been built yet. Stealth is not the answer. During Desert Storm, we were told the F-117, a bomber, not a fighter, was completely invisible to radar. After one was shot down with old Russian tech, they were force to walk that back. Situational awareness, the ability tosort it all out, manuverability, and the ability to carry enough weapons in order to fight to win, BEAT stealth. All current stealth fighters do not have the capability to carry the proper weapon load to the fight, and remain at top stealth ability. So, the biggest, most expensive part, has now been compramised. That is waisted money. As for Thrust Vectoring- well, they first tested that on early models of the F-15. We had that capability since the late 1970's. A product of our space program. It was used on all Apollo missions. The Ruskies had it too. They just brought theirs to an air show first. Thrust vectoring should have been put on every US fighter from the F-14-the F-18. Wasted tech. All cighters after the F-4 Phantom could've been that much better, and that far ahead of the world. Build what you can afford-THAT INCLUDES ALL OPERATING COST, train the best to be the best, victory will be ours. Our military training has been 2nd to NONE. IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO WIN THE WARS. As long as you keep politics OUT of the equasion. As long as our military is allowed to do the job they've been trained to do- WE WIN. After Korea, Vietnam, I thought we had learned our lesson. I thought Desert Storm proved it. Then, 20 years in the Middle East, we took 3, or 4 steps back.
@@briantaylor8197 Brian, most of the enemy world out there is in the same predicament as you are complaining about concerning the USA. The Russians have developed the Su57. They can't afford it. In fact, their entire aviation sector can't generate the R&D nor the manufacturing capacity of one western corporation. So that means, they haven't created a new airframe from scratch since the Soviet era. China is not much better. Their pilots are not at the level of western counterparts. Be careful when you start talking about quantity. When it comes to the air warfare, quantity is not its own quality, and the Japanese found that out the hard way at the end of WW2. Planes are not like tanks, trucks and infantry. You can park a tank anywhere, get out, hide in a bush, jump someone passing by and fight hand to hand if needed. You can't park a plane in the sky, get out, hide in some clouds and jump someone passing by. So flight and evading skills and physical qualifications are extremely necessary for survival. Otherwise anything you send up will just be a lamb for slaughter. Your pilots need to be up to the challenge of the fight, not just some body placed in a plane. Your planes need to be in top shape too. Otherwise you are just sending up pilots in their own deathtraps. As far as there not be enough F-35s and F-22s, there is a lot you don't understand. You are still thinking 20th century aerial combat when every pilot and plane is their own lone fighter within a team. You take off! AWACS tells you where to go. You point your nose in that direction. All you have is your own radar and your own weapons payload. When that is gone, you are useless and have to run home. The new future of aerial warfare is a collective form of fighting, not a singular form of fighting. An F-35 empty of weapons can still stay in the fight and still take part in killing bad guys, as part of a weapons and information collective.
With an external weapons load hanging off multiple hard points there is no way the Euro Fighter "Tycoon" lol has anywhere near the RCS of the F-22. Modern air battles are fought at a distance; nevertheless the F-22 would easily out maneuver the Euro Fighter. This fluff piece not withstanding, the Euro Fighter would be an easy kill for the Raptor. The title is click bait.
@@timopkokko they only can afford it as they never audit the federal reserve... if you can just add zeros to peoples bank accounts with no worries were the money comes from you can finance anything
Fake news, everyone else here are too kind! 1. Typhoon is so good, it can kill F-22 if Typhoon is allowed to fly directly behind F-22 within visual range, otherwise Typhoon can't even get within it's radar range. 2. Typhoon has lower maintenance? Germany is trying to give away their Typhoons because they are grounded most of the time for repairs and maintenance cost exceeds purchase cost. 3. Recently, Rafale has been selling like hotcakes in Greece, India, Indonesia but does anyone even considering Typhoon? F-16 beats Rafale, and Rafale beats any non stealth fighters including Chinese and Russian. Possibly even Chinese stealth fighter can be beaten by latest Rafale.
It can kill a jet built in 1996? Cool, cool, glad to see Europe's producing competitive fighter models. We haven't really had any competition in a while; the Flankers never fly because their engines break down if the pilot sneezes too hard, the Chinese have built a "stealthy" aircraft with a bunch of stealth-defeating surfaces that can be detected as easily as an F/A-18 Super Hornet by any aerial or ground-based radar, and the Lightning is basically a spotter for F-15EX missile-boat formations...so... I dunno. It LOOKS cool, alright. And we need the competition, because the Lightning's budgetary boondoggle was absurd, even if the end result is quite capable. Having to actually compete will be good for the American aeronautical industry.
" It comes with great potential for modernization" - translation: It may not have all it needs, but it can be upgraded with help of tech from the USA. "In close combat, the Typhoon comes out best." - translation: If a Typhoon can survive long enough to engage the likes of the F-22, it might have a chance... , IF it could survive the initial Raptor attack from nowhere! The F-22 took on 3 F-15 fighters at once and they were all "killed" before they even knew what happened. It freaked out the F-15 pilots.
I dont know how these guys can compare these 4th even 5th gen aircraft with the F22 its sort of like they have to compare everything as if theres no stealth on the F22. The stealth aspect of the F22 is better than 0.0001 radar cross section thats unheard of and means everything, you cant kill it if you cant lock on. Thats like the size of a spider, and its actually better than that. on top of which it super cruises at mach 1.8 with no after burners, nothing comes close i think the SU 57 can maybe do mach 1.3. But the real point here is comparing an f16's turn capability thrust capacity and maneuverability is totally worthless since it cant see the F22 on radar, cant lock on to it and cant catch it. And neither can anything made by China or Russia. Even their attempts to build stealth aircraft are silly since they have 2 large engines uncovered in the open that would need after burners to even keep up with the F22. Basically with the advanced avionics and radar capabilities the F22 will destroy just about all of them and never be seen. Nothing that exists now could even be able to lock on to it. even the F35 can overcome Russias famous s-400 missile batteries Israeli's flew F-35's right over them and they never fired one missile. And lets get real they are comparing a new fighter to a 30 year old one. And their attempts at stealth are worthless with engines and armaments sticking out all over the place. Claiming it can kill the raptor is a joke. its supercruise is mack 1.5 its ceiling 65k i doubt it can turn better without thrust vectoring, and it cant kill what it cant lock on to period. www.defenseworld.net/news/25499/Russian_S_300s__S_400s_Fail_to_Detect_Israeli_F_35s_Flying_Over_Syria__Reports
Actually..Concorde supercruised ( meaning without afterburners ) at Mach2.04, carrying 120 passengers for 3hours crossing the Atlantic everyday for 27 years. And this with an aircraft that first flew in 1969.
@@stallagiardino7877 Thats incredibly deceptive and not really an accurate statement. The Concord always used afterburners just not constantly. When it reached a height of 50-60,000 ft it could reach mach 2.2 without afterburners on/ at cruising altitude, it needed the afterburners to get there. Also the higher the altitude the less speed you need to reach mach, its 761 mph at sea level at 50,000 feet mach is only 659 mph plus it had 4 rolls royce engines, it wasnt a fighter plane having to maneuver, So no your statement really isnt correct
@@glennmonson5214 With respect you are wrong on this.. Concorde Very definitely super cruised at its cruise speed of Mach 2.04, at 60K feet with out afterburners. Had it had to use afterburners for anything other than very short phases of flight, it would not have had the range to fly trans Atlantic. Concorde had afterburners that were used during the take off, due to the load of the aircraft and also the fact that the wing design was of the Vortex Generator type, which creates high drag at low speeds due to it’s angle of attack requirement ( high alpha ).. The Afterburners were then shut down until the trans sonic phase of the flight, when they used to pass the. high drag trans sonic regime. ( They did not need to do this, but it allowed much quicker transition of this phase of the flight and allowed for a smoother passenger experience with less vibration. Once supersonic the Concorde shut down its afterburners and climbed to its operating altitude of 60K feet and cruise speed of Mach 2.04…for two and a half hours. If it had to use afterburner for anything other than very short phases of flight it would not have had the range to fly New York to London or Paris to Rio. ...There is one photograph taken of Concorde flying at supersonic speed. It was taken from a modified light weight recon Tornado west of Ireland. The Tornado, on full afterburner was unable to intercept the Concorde, which had to slow down to Mack 1.4 so the tornado could catch an film it flying at Mach 1.5. ..However, the Tornado could only hold this speed for 4 minutes because of the rate of fuel burn.. Concorde then accelerated away…without burners to a speed of Mach 2.04, to continue its flight to New York. The only other aircraft ever know to have intercepted Concorde in flight was a modified English Electric Lightening that could comfortably exceed Mach 2.50……This was also the same aircraft that did the recorded zoom climb to 88K feet. supersonic transports (SST), Concorde, and the second version of the Tu-144 (the Tu-144D) spent most of their time cruising at their design speeds without needing afterburning. Afterburning was added to Concorde for take-off to cope with weight increases that came after the initial design. It was also used to accelerate through the high-drag transonic speed range, not because the extra thrust was required, but because it was available and improved the operating economics. The redesigned Tu-144D used engines with no afterburners which, together with other improvements, increased the full payload range from 3,080 to 5,330 km (1,910 to 3,310 mi) (Concorde's operational range was 6,470 km or 4,020 mi).
@@stallagiardino7877 Sorry Im not, you just dont understand what supercruise or mach means. And the way you use terms tells it. Supercruise mean attainable without the use of afterburners And since the Concord always used afterburner for takeoff and to reach the altitude it needed to to claim mach 2.2 which is the fastest it ever went. Not only is that not its regular speed, but the Concord definitely needed afterburners to get takeoff altitude and its cruise altitude, which means it doesnt supercruise. Furthermore Mach the speed of sound changes with the temperature of the medium its traveling through. On Earth, the speed of sound at sea level - assuming an air temperature of 59 degrees Fahrenheit (15 degrees Celsius) - is 761.2 mph (1,225 km/h).the Concord had a max speed of 1350 mph and thats with 4 Rolls Royce engines not 1. Now thats over 1522 mph which also tells me in order to reach mach 2.2 the Concord with a top speed of 1350 would half to be at 50,000 ft. And since it needed afterburners to get there, its not supercruising furthermore the Concord needs the use of afterburners for take off and to pass the mach barrier, only then can they be shut off, and only at 50,000 ft .So your comparing apples and oranges, its by no means an accurate or correct analogy. www.fighter-planes.com/jetmach1.htm
Dassault is pronounced Dasso, and the second "a" in Rafale is long The RAF is British, not English. Panavia isn't German, it's a German, Italian and British JV based in Germany.
If you are from England, as an English citizen you are English. If you are from any of the countries in the British Isles you are British. This means that only the English, from England as a citizen can be both English and British.
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Are you high? The F22 can shoot it down before it’s even seen…. No fighter is invincible, but barring some extreme circumstances the F22 is in no danger in foreseeable future. That’s no brag, just reality.
Considering the age of the F-22, compared with the Eurofighter still gives good testimony for it's design. And its mission, though very capable of dog fighting, is primarily to drive deep into enemy territory to knock enemy air defenses and radar installations, to help establish air dominance in order to pave the way for conventional attack aircraft and bomber fleets to follow. If the F-22 does it "right" the Eurofighter will be shot down before it even knows it is being hunted. Once exposed the advantage will probably be in the Eurofighters court. The F-22 is getting a little long in the tooth for dog fighting but for her real mission of stealthy infiltration she still is unparalleled.
Wrong. The Typhoon IRST can detect ANY stealth aircraft at a range of 60NM or more. The Radar works in several modes al the way from S to Ku band. The "stealth" methods of the USA such as RAM and contouring only work in X band. On top of that the Service ceilings for the F-22 and Typhoon (with the old engine) are the same but the AIM-120C (the F-22 cannot carry the AIM120D due to space restrictions) has a range of 57NM only in a launch high shoot down situation (at's at best 2/3 that flyiing level) but the Meteor has a "no escape" zone roughly that long flying level. The EF-2000 has a low RCS from using minimal metals. So the Typhoon would win as it can launch first. Why do you think Congress stopped production of the F-22 in 2011? It was because the RAF turned up to a "Red Flag" training event with Typhoons and ate them for breakfast after Congress had been told it was the best in the world. www.19fortyfive.com/2021/09/f-22-stealth-fighter-vs-eurofighter-typhoon-one-pilot-has-answers/
@@gordonlawrence1448 ok I’ve read this and it doesn’t say this is better then the F-22 in fact it said the 22 is better because it’s undetected and this one is not so get your facts right no one come close to the F-22 the US STOP MAKING THEM because they didn’t want them to get in the wrong hands and they cost too much
We keep the actual top performance specs of the F-22 hidden from even our Allies. So much so that F-22 pilots are told not to display even 85-90% of the aircrafts full capabilities and maneuverability. We did *something* special with that aircraft. You can watch videos of it putting itself into near controlled flat spins to maneuver its nose on to target while not losing control and somehow maintaining its speed. A flat spin in any other aircraft is a death sentence. Then on top of that it’s stealthier than the F-35. We flew up next to Russian fighters in the Middle East harassing our drones and were looking over at them waving telling them to “Go home” before they ever knew we were even there in the air space with them.
Exactly. There’s a reason why our allies don’t even have access to this plane. They DEFINITELY aren’t going to reveal all it’s capabilities to ANYONE, especially the public.
There is enough info to state this Euro Fighter has defeated the F 22 but the F22 did not employ all of it weaponry and stealth......big diff when the use of tech comes into play.....
Correct. On even footing, the F-22 would be in danger to most other fighter craft. But allowed to employ all its abilities with no limits, a half dozen Euro Fighters would be shot out of the sky with no idea where their deaths came from.
Nor did the euro, and the euro got all the tec inside just as much, just the air frame ain't as stealthy. But is to a good degree!! Plus we're partners so let's be happy and don't forget the tempest will be the UK's next gen so we are up to date with you, more then any other allie. Fact.
@@ATAATX thay will see were the shot came from, so as the 22 let's a missile off bang the euro with see it and know exactly where its come from. All the euro has to do is use its ability to out remove the missile and shoot you back. Its down to the pilots at the end off the day.
This is another example of placing an interesting title that has nothing to do with the content of the video to increase views. There was nothing in the video explaining how the fighter could defeat the f22 and in fact it would not have a chance. You cannot kill what you cannot see!
For the most part, dogfights are a thing of the past. He/she who sees the opponent first will launch a missile to destroy the opponent. This is how a vast majority of air-to-air kills occur and is responsible for the 108 to zero kill ration for the F-15. Stealthiness, target data acquisition and situational data are where its at in the 21st century. You can't kill what you can't see. F-22s and F-35s with kill a Eurofighter before it ever knows they are there. Dogfights are just a romantic memory of the past.
"Dogfights are just a romantic memory of the past." That was the prevailing view - till we wound up in Vietnam. The F-15 & F-16 were born from the lessons learned in that conflict.
@@jonniiinferno9098 Vietnam is ancient history Jonni. Over 50 years ago! Wake up dude! You are clueless! The burn and turn days are over. The biggest threat to planes now are electronic in nature ( jamming, radar, AI, surface to air missiles, air to air missiles). In the not too distant future, most if not all military pilots with be AI and/or a person in front of a keyboard and monitors in a trailer or underground.
@@kyleday7452 lol - you might think Vietnam is "ancient History" and that the lessons learned then are Irrelevant in the present threat environment - but - that would mean you are thinking like the guys pre-Vietnam - "all we need are fast jets" - then they found out that what they really needed were fast and maneuverable jets... even with the UCAVs - one of the features they hi-light is that without a pilot - they can make the UCAV super-maneuverable. So, if what you say is true - why would they care if the Aircraft or UCAV is maneuverable ? They care because, they know that if your aircraft is maneuverable - or super-maneuverable - you can out-turn a missile and make it miss... Or in air-to-air combat within VR your pilot can out-maneuver the enemy and get the kill...
I’ll say that the typhoon is an amazing aircraft and is def one of the best in the world especially when it comes to maneuverability and advanced composite material construction giving it semi stealth characteristics and I’m sure that it would be a great competitor to the f-15 considering it was built in the 1970’s but I highly highly doubt that it stands a chance against an f-22 when fully in stealth configuration and is really in combat mode holding no punches, I think that’s f-22 no contest, now maybe minus the all advantages of stealth (surprise attack, invisibleish on radar, etc) if it was a within visual range dogfight then maybe if the pilot is really tricky or gets lucky then I suppose the typhoon can get a few kills against an f-22 which I still find highly suspect but possible. Against a fully stealth f-22 tho….not being bias but no I’m sorry the typhoon is not winning that fight
The Typhoon has no semi-stealth characteristics and unfortunately, its a yesterday fighter design that entered the market too late. That was a program that was supposed to only take 10-12 years to develop and enter production. Instead, it sat in Development, delayed and overbudget, for almost 20 years missing its window. It still has its uses but its old 4th generation design and that declines its survivability each year.
Gen John Jumper, who has flown both stated that the Typhoon was probably the better close in dog fighter. So..he clearly didn’t think it was a rubbish aircraft.
@@stallagiardino7877 - And a lot of experts say the F22 is better in a dog fight. But what makes the F22 better overall is it's stealth capabilities. It would kill a Eurofighter before the Eurofighter even knew it was there. There is a reason the US still doesn't export it to anyone.
there is no way to compare both fighters, the capabilities of the f-22 are top secret, unless you have that kind of clearance you don't know what it is capable of, they wont even sell it to anybody.
Nothing in the world right now can take on a F-22 in air to air combat. Probably not even a group of 10 or less of anything can beat 1 F-22 in air to air! Yes, it is that bad-ass and we should build more! Remember, the F-22 is designed to fight Air to Air, not close air support, not bombing, etc. Air to Air!
Quoting the video - the Typhoon has 40 thousand pounds of thrust with afterburner which is an " incredible benchmark" - ???? hmmm , don't think so. - Raptor - 70,000 pounds of thrust with Super cruise - mach 1.8 - The Typhoon may be an excellent dogfighter, but probably wouldn't even see the Raptor coming, and wouldn't survive the encounter.
The Raptor weighs in at 19,700 KGs empty weight..The Typhoon weighs in at 11,000 KGs empty weight. So it’s nearly 9 tonnes lighter in weight.. The thrust to weight ratio is very close. ..
@@stallagiardino7877 Supercruise mach 1.8 without afterburners (the definition of supercruise) and masked engines so it is difficult for heat detecting missiles to lock on. the Typhoon can only supercruise at 1.5 so yeah the 70,000 lbs makes a difference
Ridiculous EURO hype. This is not a classical denial syndrome or typical trussle with conventional thinking, rather it invokes worry about the motivations. Politics infiltrates everything these days. The F22 is the first fifth generation fighter defeating many of the previous expectations and setting a high bar. NGAD will be then first sixth generation doing the same things. This is all based on very strong technological DNA. The technology is basically superior. The most important thing overlooked is that strategists decide the technology and capabilities. There is no such thing as a separation of TST and Fundamental strategy. US planes have lots of strategy built into the plane with many future operational, tactical, and strategical considerations emphasized in design. This is the real strength of plane design. The reason stealth was invented and heavily invested by the US was based on tactical studies. US Col. John Boyd made this distinction very clear in what is a very underestimated OODA loop concept. Undoubtedly, it was influential to warplane design. It is in many respects the first real theory close to scientific strategy. Ironically, fast looping societies (as a whole) with large tech-trees make better weapons. The true test is not what a group of liberally minded thunderheads think in terms of spec-on-spec divides but on the strategic effects of strategically derived and prognosticated technology on the battlefield.
Hmmm.......the Danish airforce were in fact one of the first nations to adopt the F-16, back in the 70's, and they are still going Strong. But we have bought the F-35 indstead of the Euro Fighter and we begin service in 2023. Looking forward ✌️🇩🇰
Not only can the F-22 spot and shoot down any other Jet Fighter from beyond visual range, but the F-22 can fly circles around any of the European flying bricks mentioned. The F-22 is very old, yet still unsurpassed by any production aircraft today. If close in dogfighting were required, the F-22 has super maneuverability, with a sustained turn rate that other Jets just can't match. In simulations, and flight testing against all comers, the F-22 routinely fires all missiles and shoots down all advisories before they can even spot it. I was the CM Manager for the YF-22, and unlike the people that posted this misinformation, I know what I am talking about. The authors mentioned the F-16, but even the 50 year old F-15, US designed and built, has never lost an air to air engagement, unmatched 104 to 0 air to air kill ratio. European counties did not want to buy American aircraft because they suffer from "not invented here" syndrome. Still, from Sweden to France and Britain aviation, some nice looking, but second tier Jets are produced.
@@alanjames5586 Over 30 years of experience, including flight test, combat simulation, at Northrop, Skunk Works... and what desk do you fly? Give credit where it is due, Martin Baker does make a great Ejection Seat.
The Raptor surely sounds invincible, but according to defense writer David Axe at WIRED, it was way back in 2006 when “F-22s from the 27th Fighter Squadron shot down one hundred forty-four 'enemy' F-15s and F/A-18s in mock dogfights.Nov 20, 2021
I mean don't get me wrong the typhoon is cool but it's just nowhere near raptor level. I mean just on the thing's that we do know about the raptor it holds an immense advantage over the typhoon. But that's not even taking into account the thing's that we don't know about the raptor, considering a lot of systems are still classified, even the exact top speed it's still classified. It makes sense that with the world's most advanced fighter, the US isn't going to release everything about it. It's better when the enemy doesn't know your capabilities. Pretty much becomes an incredibly unfair advantage and that's the way we want it.
At 1:48 mark: "The specific usage of military aviation required by the USA differed from the tactics of fighters used by European countries". Umm... yeah. American fighter jets survive combat. We're picky that way.
The Phoenix missile can be launched at 120 miles away from it's target and can track 6 objects and select one to take out at one time. It flies at mach 6 for about 300 miles. No aircraft has been able to defeat it. This Typhoon can't match this. The F-22 can fire and forget and move on to the next target before the Typhoon can even see it.
That is not quite how the Phoenix worked. That is how the F-14 REO 'AN/AWG-9' weapons control system worked, which launched the Phoenix worked. Once the Phoenix dropped from its rails, it only tracks one target. -And the Phoenix was mainly designed to hit larger targets, like high flying Soviet Bombers. Soviet bombers that were on their way to nuke USA targets or they were carrying anti-ship missiles. The Phoenix was a naval accusation for fleet defense.
Guess what, darlings: I reckon this video is an advertisement for Eurofighter Typhoon. Did you expect this? This is lovely! An American Artificial Intelligence tells us that Typhoon is good.
This video is irrelevant cause pilots will never talk and say this plane is better then that one. The fact is they were never built to fight each other. They all have their own purpose not to compete. Against the SU fighter of course that’s why they were built.
I commend many knowledgeable responders for their measured and polite replies to the hypothesis that the Typhoon is a match for the Raptor. Context is everything, is it not? The whole point of the Raptor design was to dispense of 4th gen aircraft before the fight started. Designed more than three decades ago, the F-22 remains peerless in that role. A flight of Typhoons would be out of action before they ever knew the Raptor was there. Dogfighting is something a pilot does when he has to. Every combat pilot is trained in basic fighter maneuvers, but that sort of action is inefficient and often strategically counterproductive. Air superiority is key, and Ukraine’s success against Russia on the ground is a consequence of Russia’s ineptness in joint force combat, including the effective use of airpower. The Raptor is part of a system, a doctrine of interdisciplinary warfare, intended to deny the enemy a vote in the outcome, while keeping the engagement short and decisive. The Typhoon is a great dog fighter. The Raptor was designed to eliminate dog fighters. Nuff said.
The F22 is not designed to dogfight, the idea that you should not bring a knife to a gun fight, a lot of fast maneuverable planes are designed as knife fighters and very good at it, the F22 is designed to kill the knife fighters long before they knew it was around. so the F22 doesn't need to be good at knife fighting.
It's probably a good idea to read through the script a few more times to become familiar with the subject matter before you record it for the video... although the information was interesting the constant misread words became a distraction. ...Tycoon instead of Typhoon, "Hand points" under the wing instead of "hard points"...etc. thanks
Got to admit there is quite a few inaccuracies. The plane dosent have thrust vectoring They don't use aspide or skyflash missiles, their outdated fox 1 types, they use now aim 120 or more commonly now meteors The plane can also use irist missile
At one time this was a very tough plane. Now it’s outdated to much to be anything except a missile truck/carrier. And F22 or F35 would have to lead the way and use the missiles off these older planes that would never survive a contested airspace. This plane would light up a SAM system like a Christmas tree!!
Several times the narrator calls it the 'Tycoon'...got a laugh there. After the merge, the Eurofighter has a chance against the F-22, maybe 40/60 at the very best. No one has seen exactly what the F22 can do in BFM, most of the info is classified. The big thing is that the Eurofighter will never get in a merge with an F22, because it will die before the F22 is seen. :) Gorgeous aircraft, definitely tops at the moment. An F-22 killer....doubtful.
They forget to mention most important thing in dogfight, and that's PILOT SKILL, when pilot isn't well skiled and trained, than no matter in which plane he is, he'll lose fight. All that we seen that in Iraq for example...
the eurofighter has no thrustvectoring as you said in min 7:46 . it was an idea to put that on it but was rejected by the partner countries becaus of the canards and the instable deltawingdesign
fighter jet version for india has. "...The EJ200 engine has the potential to be fitted with a thrust vectoring control (TVC) nozzle, which the Eurofighter and Eurojet consortium have been actively developing and testing, primarily for export but also for future upgrades of the fleet. TVC could reduce fuel burn on a typical Typhoon mission by up to 5%, as well as increase available thrust in supercruise by up to 7% and take-off thrust by 2%..."
This is a promotional video especially made to justify India's purchase of this junk. Truth of the matter is, adding one more platform to India's already illogically diverse fleet would be a senseless waste of ten billion+ dollars, and would create a mindlessly complicated logistical and personnel training nightmare. Oh, that, and also, this aircraft is also an unproven, overpriced, obsolete junk.
Dog-fighting is the realm of 4th Gen Fighters and the Rafael doesn't have the RCS to tangle with 5th Gen Fighters. Long Range Air to Air Missile Swarms from distance is the 5th Gen Combat Environment. IRST is great that you can identify the target, but using it as a Fire Control lock for your missiles, good luck with that! Red Flag Exercises have shown the Superiority of 5th Gen Fighters vs 4th Gen Fighters!
When naming countries that fly the Eurofighter, the narratorreferred to England as one of the nations flying the aircraft. That was improperly stated. England is only a component part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are the political entities of the United Kingdom. They are one nation and should be properly referred to as that. That mistake causes me to doubt the accuracy of the entire video.
India went with the French fighter. Not the euro fighter. And they are going to go with their own in the end. The French fighter is just a bridge to cross the time till the have their own ready.
4:58 I'm sorry mate but the PANAVIA Tornado was a pan European program led jointly by UK with Germany and Italy also in the program. It was only the UK that developed and used the Air Defense Variant,(ADV) of the Tornado. The Euro-fighter Typhoon, Known only as the RAF Typhoon in the UK, the best variant, was a British led program for an Air Dominance Aircraft,(ADA) or Air dominance fighter interceptor and now ground attack Close Air Support interdiction deep strike maritime defense and attack aircraft within the UK RAF, as I said the best version of all. It was a BAE systems led project, a BAE design that was finally adopted by all partners because it met all standards and requirements of all partners nations and even more so after the collaboration finally came together nicely to give us am amazing aircraft. More about the Typhoon, it can also use the Storm shadow deep strike ground attack missile, as well as the METEOR BVR for beyond visual range long distance engagements and also the MART ER Air launched anti ship missile, and Brimstone 3 missiles for fast attack craft and fast vehicles moving up to 70mph, dumb and guided bombs as well as US weaponry too. Awesome aircraft. 🇬🇧
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One of the purposes of the F22 electronics and weapons packages is to virtually eliminate the likelihood of getting into a close-in dogfight in the first place. It can detect and ID aircraft from over 200 miles away, and ideally can "take out" an enemy aircraft before the enemy even knows the F22 is there. While a dogfight is possible, it's not the most probable threat to an F22 on any given mission.
An excellent point, and another reason for its superiority
As has been mentioned, the pilots of the Raptor aren't permitted to really show what it can do at the air shows. They do mostly normal things. Since no Russian plane has gone up against our F-22, they can speculate all they want, but when the s#!t hits the fan, I'll venture they will be very sadly surprised!!
@@pizzaman5169 And you can bet thats no mistake. Ill bet neither Russia nor China will ever knowingly send anything up deliberately against an F-22
@Dartgame 340 what? In a dogfight?
Wonder why it doesn't get used & it's been retired must be so fantastic so good on every level. The US has spent over a trillion dollars replacing it with a flying pig.
Do you ever get the feeling you've been filled full of shit?
The F22 would kill this plane before it knew it was there...no comparison.
who cares what the good point is there on the same side
Learn about the times that didn't happen
The new thing will a squadron of 6 gen fighters supervising our latest drones. You know China is thinking about what will happen if they attack Taiwan, I expect they will loose Taiwan Hong Kong Tibet and Mongolia if they try to attack Taiwan.
@@andrewells7441 And Macau?
@@glennhearn401 said Ukraine and Russia 30 years ago lmao
Apparently an F-22 took on 5 F-15s in a training exercise and won. Can't see the Eurofighter match those odds.
What did the f-22 pilot state as the only problem.....
It (f-22) run out of stores so I had to land.
@@drumnotdrum9262 But they can hit the Eurofighter before it seen the F-22
@@thesirmaddog8209 it would need to be done for real not on a computer. Don't be angry that the eurofighter is better but it's cool because the F22 boy that is a hard to beat fighter however that's probably why you would not be able to make more just to expensive
And none of the F-15 pilots ever even saw the F-22. This Eurofighter probably couldn't take on our latest F-15 EX.
Jealous
Typhoon is a great 4th Gen fighter for sure. High maneuverability, very good offensive and defensive tech onboard. It should not be underestimated. The F22 though is in another generation completely. TV and Stealth combined with its BVR effectiveness and you have the clear advantage over the Typhoon. Not saying that it couldn’t happen. It could in some specific circumstances where the Typhoon was able to negate all of the F22s advantages, yes. But then that would be the same for any fighter. Otherwise, 99 out 100 to the Raptor.
The radar cross section of a Raptor is that of a very small bird. The radar cross section of a typhoon is several meters. There is no contest between these two aircraft.
Typhoon will win in a dogfight. It's proven in Red Flag
@@andrewdavies3584 41:1 kill ratio. That’s the Raptor vs. Typhoon. Look up the facts before you claim 1 out of 42 is somehow better.
RAFALE....do not forget that bird.
@@ME-wy3xm its the size of a bumble bee not even a small bird.
1. When mentioning the Su27 and MiG29, the video showed a MiG25 Foxbat. 2. The typhoon is in the air force of the UK, not England. 3. The PANAVIA Tornado is British/German/Italian, not just German.
UK is England!
@@peterbaker8443 no. UK is England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Yep, the UK is England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland - and the Typhoon couldn’t hit an aircraft over 200 miles away in any kind of weather, including moonshine. But the F-22 can. Euro Fighter pilots are a crack up.
No, England is a part of the UK.
I believe the f16 has a dogfighting record of 89 kills and one loss. Very impressive
The F-15A/C/I/S Eagle has a 102-0-0 record. 😁
EVERY foreign plane outperforms EVERY new US fighter, that is widely reported to be an utter crap, UNTIL the shooting starts. Then we know it goes, was just watching video about Grippen VS F 35. If you think it over, consider all factors, there is NO chance that a small Sweden can still produce anything approaching the new US tech. Sorry guy, but the new tech gets astronomically complicated and expensive and you can NEVER achieve the scale of economy that F35 will achieve.
F16 beats an f15 in a dogfight with equally skilled pilots.
@@Spectre-wd9dl yes the F-16 is one nimble and very powerful jet fighter, especially since the upgrades to it's jet engine and it's fly by wire pretty much let's it manuever right out to and at times out past it's inherent instability that was purposefully built into the planes capabilities. The seat is laid back to help keep blood flowing to the pilots brain .I believe that for the longest time the F-16 could pull more G's than any other fighter in service with the US Air Force and Navy too.
@@aigomorla Yet to hear all the "experts" the two US fighters that have proven themselves in combat time and again are outclassed
I doubt it. Both the F16 and F18 have been very upgraded. Neither the Euro or the French fighter are any more stealthy. Nor have they ever seen real combat. As for the F22. It is very stealthy as well as very maneuverable, very fast as well as having an integrated targeting system. It too is not battle tested but I believe in any even confrontation it will be the victor if the pilots skills are any good at all.
"REALLY your still talking 3rd and 4th generation fighter still no match agent the F-22 Raptor!!
The US has already designed built and flown a 6th gen fighter that was designed and made using AI. Took only a year.
German saying: how you get a starfighter? buy a piece of land and wait.
All in - probable kill ratio, stealth and battle damage survivability - the F-22 comes out on top.
not to mention radar cross section and super sonic cruise capability.
@@normanbaldwinjr7681 Yezzir. Stealth & speed.
@@normanbaldwinjr7681 the Eurofighter can also super cruise along with mean other fighter of the world
@HG-1 That's not an advertised feature.
@@normanbaldwinjr7681 I just replied to one of your points in your statement.
The fact is the Typhoon pilot would not know that the Raptor is even in range until the missiles from the Raptor are launched. Then it’s too late. Once the Raptor pilot shuts the doors he’s invisible again. This is however a very nice propaganda piece by the Europeans. The Typhoon probably could defeat just about anything flying, but to claim it is somehow better than the Raptor? 🙄
Just bring the Eurofighter and any other potential contenders to the Fighter Weapons School... aka... Top Gun ??? And let some Professional Pilots put the Aircraft to a real test !!! I do not see any other sensible way forward... Real Pilots, Real Planes, Real Data !!! Best of the Best !!!
Been there. DOne that. Its been to Red flag too
The RAF has regularly outmatched the USAF for the last 60 years.
@@alanjames5586 That's very good mate... I have no intention of getting into a pissing contest with you... If NATO gets involved with current hostilities in Ukraine or elsewhere ??? All of you guys will be the tip of the Spear for Air Superiority/Dominance and will have to depend upon each other in any Major Campaign... I respect all that fly the Hot Rods of the Sky... My dream would be the Apache Attack Helicopter or the A-10 Warthog to unleash Hell upon the enemy !!!
The problem is $'s & cents. What good is a fighter, if you can't AFFORD IT, IN ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT IT????
The original order of F-22's was cut, over half of the order. Hence the F-15X's. The only way the F-35 survived, they were allowed to sell to our allies. Look, before you too call me a commie, I love my country. My family has been here longer than the US has existed. I served 6 great years. Loved it. Learned SOOO MUCH. Some of my buddies died in the Middle East. I miss them to this day.
BUT, my common sense has gotten me this far in life. I know this, when you cannot afford something, then you're unable to use it, so it's no good to you. We do not have enough F-22, or F-35 to defend America. Are they cool? Duh! Yeah. We have the brightest and best people. Where we fall short, common sense. The next great American fighter will come. It just hasn't been built yet. Stealth is not the answer. During Desert Storm, we were told the F-117, a bomber, not a fighter, was completely invisible to radar. After one was shot down with old Russian tech, they were force to walk that back. Situational awareness, the ability tosort it all out, manuverability, and the ability to carry enough weapons in order to fight to win, BEAT stealth. All current stealth fighters do not have the capability to carry the proper weapon load to the fight, and remain at top stealth ability. So, the biggest, most expensive part, has now been compramised. That is waisted money. As for Thrust Vectoring- well, they first tested that on early models of the F-15. We had that capability since the late 1970's. A product of our space program. It was used on all Apollo missions. The Ruskies had it too. They just brought theirs to an air show first. Thrust vectoring should have been put on every US fighter from the F-14-the F-18. Wasted tech. All cighters after the F-4 Phantom could've been that much better, and that far ahead of the world. Build what you can afford-THAT INCLUDES ALL OPERATING COST, train the best to be the best, victory will be ours. Our military training has been 2nd to NONE. IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO WIN THE WARS. As long as you keep politics OUT of the equasion. As long as our military is allowed to do the job they've been trained to do- WE WIN. After Korea, Vietnam, I thought we had learned our lesson. I thought Desert Storm proved it. Then, 20 years in the Middle East, we took 3, or 4 steps back.
@@briantaylor8197 Brian, most of the enemy world out there is in the same predicament as you are complaining about concerning the USA. The Russians have developed the Su57. They can't afford it. In fact, their entire aviation sector can't generate the R&D nor the manufacturing capacity of one western corporation. So that means, they haven't created a new airframe from scratch since the Soviet era. China is not much better. Their pilots are not at the level of western counterparts. Be careful when you start talking about quantity. When it comes to the air warfare, quantity is not its own quality, and the Japanese found that out the hard way at the end of WW2. Planes are not like tanks, trucks and infantry. You can park a tank anywhere, get out, hide in a bush, jump someone passing by and fight hand to hand if needed. You can't park a plane in the sky, get out, hide in some clouds and jump someone passing by. So flight and evading skills and physical qualifications are extremely necessary for survival. Otherwise anything you send up will just be a lamb for slaughter. Your pilots need to be up to the challenge of the fight, not just some body placed in a plane. Your planes need to be in top shape too. Otherwise you are just sending up pilots in their own deathtraps. As far as there not be enough F-35s and F-22s, there is a lot you don't understand. You are still thinking 20th century aerial combat when every pilot and plane is their own lone fighter within a team. You take off! AWACS tells you where to go. You point your nose in that direction. All you have is your own radar and your own weapons payload. When that is gone, you are useless and have to run home. The new future of aerial warfare is a collective form of fighting, not a singular form of fighting. An F-35 empty of weapons can still stay in the fight and still take part in killing bad guys, as part of a weapons and information collective.
lmao, narrator called it tycoon like 3 times
As if the Typhoon is going to get close enough to an F-22 to dogfight it...clickbait!
With an external weapons load hanging off multiple hard points there is no way the Euro Fighter "Tycoon" lol has anywhere near the RCS of the F-22. Modern air battles are fought at a distance; nevertheless the F-22 would easily out maneuver the Euro Fighter. This fluff piece not withstanding, the Euro Fighter would be an easy kill for the Raptor. The title is click bait.
I agree. F-22 is superior. But then again, only the Americans can afford F-22. The cost of manufacturing one is close to astronomical 🙂
@@timopkokko they only can afford it as they never audit the federal reserve... if you can just add zeros to peoples bank accounts with no worries were the money comes from you can finance anything
Agree!
@@timopkokko At the end, winning the war is way cheaper with the "expensive" plane, than loosing it with a cheap one.
Not to mention, the drag penalties the Typhoon has to over-come when its combat loaded and loaded with fuel.
Fake news, everyone else here are too kind!
1. Typhoon is so good, it can kill F-22 if Typhoon is allowed to fly directly behind F-22 within visual range, otherwise Typhoon can't even get within it's radar range.
2. Typhoon has lower maintenance? Germany is trying to give away their Typhoons because they are grounded most of the time for repairs and maintenance cost exceeds purchase cost.
3. Recently, Rafale has been selling like hotcakes in Greece, India, Indonesia but does anyone even considering Typhoon? F-16 beats Rafale, and Rafale beats any non stealth fighters including Chinese and Russian. Possibly even Chinese stealth fighter can be beaten by latest Rafale.
The chinese don't really have stealth, it is just pretend.
If the Eurofighter cant see the F-22 its still dead. Great presentation!
But if it do spot the f-22, the 22 is dead. Go's both ways m8
@@jamielye2246 not true, even if they see it they cannot lock on to it, the F22 is faster so they cannot even catch it.
It can kill a jet built in 1996? Cool, cool, glad to see Europe's producing competitive fighter models. We haven't really had any competition in a while; the Flankers never fly because their engines break down if the pilot sneezes too hard, the Chinese have built a "stealthy" aircraft with a bunch of stealth-defeating surfaces that can be detected as easily as an F/A-18 Super Hornet by any aerial or ground-based radar, and the Lightning is basically a spotter for F-15EX missile-boat formations...so... I dunno. It LOOKS cool, alright. And we need the competition, because the Lightning's budgetary boondoggle was absurd, even if the end result is quite capable. Having to actually compete will be good for the American aeronautical industry.
I doubt it could compete with the F22, not matter what this video says. I have never heard this claim before this video.
" It comes with great potential for modernization" - translation: It may not have all it needs, but it can be upgraded with help of tech from the USA.
"In close combat, the Typhoon comes out best." - translation: If a Typhoon can survive long enough to engage the likes of the F-22, it might have a chance... , IF it could survive the initial Raptor attack from nowhere! The F-22 took on 3 F-15 fighters at once and they were all "killed" before they even knew what happened. It freaked out the F-15 pilots.
i heard it was five F-15s....
@@jonniiinferno9098 Correctomundo. I found that too, just never changed it here. I figured 3 was damn good, but 5 is "Holy Mackerel Andy!!" ! Thanks!
@@pizzaman5169 - lol -
yep 3 is good
but
5 is Grrrrrreat !!
I dont know how these guys can compare these 4th even 5th gen aircraft with the F22 its sort of like they have to compare everything as if theres no stealth on the F22. The stealth aspect of the F22 is better than 0.0001 radar cross section thats unheard of and means everything, you cant kill it if you cant lock on. Thats like the size of a spider, and its actually better than that. on top of which it super cruises at mach 1.8 with no after burners, nothing comes close i think the SU 57 can maybe do mach 1.3. But the real point here is comparing an f16's turn capability thrust capacity and maneuverability is totally worthless since it cant see the F22 on radar, cant lock on to it and cant catch it. And neither can anything made by China or Russia. Even their attempts to build stealth aircraft are silly since they have 2 large engines uncovered in the open that would need after burners to even keep up with the F22. Basically with the advanced avionics and radar capabilities the F22 will destroy just about all of them and never be seen. Nothing that exists now could even be able to lock on to it. even the F35 can overcome Russias famous s-400 missile batteries
Israeli's flew F-35's right over them and they never fired one missile. And lets get real they are comparing a new fighter to a 30 year old one. And their attempts at stealth are worthless with engines and armaments sticking out all over the place. Claiming it can kill the raptor is a joke. its supercruise is mack 1.5 its ceiling 65k i doubt it can turn better without thrust vectoring, and it cant kill what it cant lock on to period.
www.defenseworld.net/news/25499/Russian_S_300s__S_400s_Fail_to_Detect_Israeli_F_35s_Flying_Over_Syria__Reports
I paint them they go to radar when coatings cure if they show up guess what it's time to change composite parts
Actually..Concorde supercruised ( meaning without afterburners ) at Mach2.04, carrying 120 passengers for 3hours crossing the Atlantic everyday for 27 years. And this with an aircraft that first flew in 1969.
@@stallagiardino7877 Thats incredibly deceptive and not really an accurate statement. The Concord always used afterburners just not constantly. When it reached a height of 50-60,000 ft it could reach mach 2.2 without afterburners on/ at cruising altitude, it needed the afterburners to get there. Also the higher the altitude the less speed you need to reach mach, its 761 mph at sea level at 50,000 feet mach is only 659 mph plus it had 4 rolls royce engines, it wasnt a fighter plane having to maneuver, So no your statement really isnt correct
@@glennmonson5214 With respect you are wrong on this.. Concorde Very definitely super cruised at its cruise speed of Mach 2.04, at 60K feet with out afterburners. Had it had to use afterburners for anything other than very short phases of flight, it would not have had the range to fly trans Atlantic. Concorde had afterburners that were used during the take off, due to the load of the aircraft and also the fact that the wing design was of the Vortex Generator type, which creates high drag at low speeds due to it’s angle of attack requirement ( high alpha ).. The Afterburners were then shut down until the trans sonic phase of the flight, when they used to pass the. high drag trans sonic regime. ( They did not need to do this, but it allowed much quicker transition of this phase of the flight and allowed for a smoother passenger experience with less vibration. Once supersonic the Concorde shut down its afterburners and climbed to its operating altitude of 60K feet and cruise speed of Mach 2.04…for two and a half hours. If it had to use afterburner for anything other than very short phases of flight it would not have had the range to fly New York to London or Paris to Rio. ...There is one photograph taken of Concorde flying at supersonic speed. It was taken from a modified light weight recon Tornado west of Ireland. The Tornado, on full afterburner was unable to intercept the Concorde, which had to slow down to Mack 1.4 so the tornado could catch an film it flying at Mach 1.5. ..However, the Tornado could only hold this speed for 4 minutes because of the rate of fuel burn.. Concorde then accelerated away…without burners to a speed of Mach 2.04, to continue its flight to New York. The only other aircraft ever know to have intercepted Concorde in flight was a modified English Electric Lightening that could comfortably exceed Mach 2.50……This was also the same aircraft that did the recorded zoom climb to 88K feet.
supersonic transports (SST), Concorde, and the second version of the Tu-144 (the Tu-144D) spent most of their time cruising at their design speeds without needing afterburning. Afterburning was added to Concorde for take-off to cope with weight increases that came after the initial design. It was also used to accelerate through the high-drag transonic speed range, not because the extra thrust was required, but because it was available and improved the operating economics. The redesigned Tu-144D used engines with no afterburners which, together with other improvements, increased the full payload range from 3,080 to 5,330 km (1,910 to 3,310 mi) (Concorde's operational range was 6,470 km or 4,020 mi).
@@stallagiardino7877 Sorry Im not, you just dont understand what supercruise or mach means. And the way you use terms tells it.
Supercruise mean attainable without the use of afterburners And since the Concord always used afterburner for takeoff and to reach the altitude it needed to to claim mach 2.2 which is the fastest it ever went. Not only is that not its regular speed, but the Concord definitely needed afterburners to get takeoff altitude and its cruise altitude, which means it doesnt supercruise. Furthermore Mach the speed of sound changes with the temperature of the medium its traveling through.
On Earth, the speed of sound at sea level - assuming an air temperature of 59 degrees Fahrenheit (15 degrees Celsius) - is 761.2 mph (1,225 km/h).the Concord had a max speed of 1350 mph and thats with 4 Rolls Royce engines not 1. Now thats over 1522 mph which also tells me in order to reach mach 2.2 the Concord with a top speed of 1350 would half to be at 50,000 ft. And since it needed afterburners to get there, its not supercruising furthermore the Concord needs the use of afterburners for take off and to pass the mach barrier, only then can they be shut off, and only at 50,000 ft .So your comparing apples and oranges, its by no means an accurate or correct analogy.
www.fighter-planes.com/jetmach1.htm
Dassault is pronounced Dasso, and the second "a" in Rafale is long
The RAF is British, not English.
Panavia isn't German, it's a German, Italian and British JV based in Germany.
Never hurts to know that.......LOL...
Thanks Jeffrey >:)
Thanks, Geoff. You beat me to it.
If you are from England, as an English citizen you are English. If you are from any of the countries in the British Isles you are British. This means that only the English, from England as a citizen can be both English and British.
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Are you high? The F22 can shoot it down before it’s even seen…. No fighter is invincible, but barring some extreme circumstances the F22 is in no danger in foreseeable future. That’s no brag, just reality.
good presentation the issue in the end is that the f22 will see the fighter before it see it with current radar
Considering the age of the F-22, compared with the Eurofighter still gives good testimony for it's design. And its mission, though very capable of dog fighting, is primarily to drive deep into enemy territory to knock enemy air defenses and radar installations, to help establish air dominance in order to pave the way for conventional attack aircraft and bomber fleets to follow. If the F-22 does it "right" the Eurofighter will be shot down before it even knows it is being hunted. Once exposed the advantage will probably be in the Eurofighters court. The F-22 is getting a little long in the tooth for dog fighting but for her real mission of stealthy infiltration she still is unparalleled.
Wrong. The Typhoon IRST can detect ANY stealth aircraft at a range of 60NM or more. The Radar works in several modes al the way from S to Ku band. The "stealth" methods of the USA such as RAM and contouring only work in X band. On top of that the Service ceilings for the F-22 and Typhoon (with the old engine) are the same but the AIM-120C (the F-22 cannot carry the AIM120D due to space restrictions) has a range of 57NM only in a launch high shoot down situation (at's at best 2/3 that flyiing level) but the Meteor has a "no escape" zone roughly that long flying level. The EF-2000 has a low RCS from using minimal metals. So the Typhoon would win as it can launch first. Why do you think Congress stopped production of the F-22 in 2011? It was because the RAF turned up to a "Red Flag" training event with Typhoons and ate them for breakfast after Congress had been told it was the best in the world. www.19fortyfive.com/2021/09/f-22-stealth-fighter-vs-eurofighter-typhoon-one-pilot-has-answers/
@@gordonlawrence1448 ok I’ve read this and it doesn’t say this is better then the F-22 in fact it said the 22 is better because it’s undetected and this one is not so get your facts right no one come close to the F-22 the US STOP MAKING THEM because they didn’t want them to get in the wrong hands and they cost too much
We keep the actual top performance specs of the F-22 hidden from even our Allies. So much so that F-22 pilots are told not to display even 85-90% of the aircrafts full capabilities and maneuverability.
We did *something* special with that aircraft. You can watch videos of it putting itself into near controlled flat spins to maneuver its nose on to target while not losing control and somehow maintaining its speed.
A flat spin in any other aircraft is a death sentence.
Then on top of that it’s stealthier than the F-35.
We flew up next to Russian fighters in the Middle East harassing our drones and were looking over at them waving telling them to “Go home” before they ever knew we were even there in the air space with them.
Exactly. There’s a reason why our allies don’t even have access to this plane. They DEFINITELY aren’t going to reveal all it’s capabilities to ANYONE, especially the public.
Yes, if Elephants can fly then I guess the Typhoon can lock onto a steath plane with magic and by slinging crap at it..... LMFAO!!
Steath?
There is enough info to state this Euro Fighter has defeated the F 22 but the F22 did not employ all of it weaponry and stealth......big diff when the use of tech comes into play.....
Correct. On even footing, the F-22 would be in danger to most other fighter craft. But allowed to employ all its abilities with no limits, a half dozen Euro Fighters would be shot out of the sky with no idea where their deaths came from.
Nor did the euro, and the euro got all the tec inside just as much, just the air frame ain't as stealthy. But is to a good degree!! Plus we're partners so let's be happy and don't forget the tempest will be the UK's next gen so we are up to date with you, more then any other allie. Fact.
@@ATAATX thay will see were the shot came from, so as the 22 let's a missile off bang the euro with see it and know exactly where its come from. All the euro has to do is use its ability to out remove the missile and shoot you back. Its down to the pilots at the end off the day.
Don't forget the Meteor. It was on your VT but will outrange anything in service in the West. Thanks for the excellent VT overall
If the Typhoon was so bad-ass, they wouldn't be replacing it with F-35's.
Ah, "Bad Ass." American. It's all bout bottoms with you people, isn't it?
This is another example of placing an interesting title that has nothing to do with the content of the video to increase views. There was nothing in the video explaining how the fighter could defeat the f22 and in fact it would not have a chance. You cannot kill what you cannot see!
CLICK BAIT! Since none have been in actual combat against one another, it’s speculation another thing that can’t be measured is pilot experience
Hello , good video 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
For the most part, dogfights are a thing of the past. He/she who sees the opponent first will launch a missile to destroy the opponent. This is how a vast majority of air-to-air kills occur and is responsible for the 108 to zero kill ration for the F-15. Stealthiness, target data acquisition and situational data are where its at in the 21st century. You can't kill what you can't see. F-22s and F-35s with kill a Eurofighter before it ever knows they are there. Dogfights are just a romantic memory of the past.
"Dogfights are just a romantic memory of the past."
That was the prevailing view - till we wound up in Vietnam.
The F-15 & F-16 were born from the lessons learned in that conflict.
@@jonniiinferno9098 Vietnam is ancient history Jonni. Over 50 years ago! Wake up dude! You are clueless! The burn and turn days are over. The biggest threat to planes now are electronic in nature ( jamming, radar, AI, surface to air missiles, air to air missiles). In the not too distant future, most if not all military pilots with be AI and/or a person in front of a keyboard and monitors in a trailer or underground.
@@kyleday7452 lol - you might think Vietnam is "ancient History" and that the lessons learned then are Irrelevant in the present threat environment - but - that would mean you are thinking like the guys pre-Vietnam - "all we need are fast jets" - then they found out that what they really needed were fast and maneuverable jets... even with the UCAVs - one of the features they hi-light is that without a pilot - they can make the UCAV super-maneuverable.
So, if what you say is true - why would they care if the Aircraft or UCAV is maneuverable ?
They care because, they know that if your aircraft is maneuverable - or super-maneuverable - you can out-turn a missile and make it miss... Or in air-to-air combat within VR your pilot can out-maneuver the enemy and get the kill...
people assume missiles will hit, they often do, but will they hit an F22? the F22 is VERY hard to track and even masks it's engine heat
I’ll say that the typhoon is an amazing aircraft and is def one of the best in the world especially when it comes to maneuverability and advanced composite material construction giving it semi stealth characteristics and I’m sure that it would be a great competitor to the f-15 considering it was built in the 1970’s but I highly highly doubt that it stands a chance against an f-22 when fully in stealth configuration and is really in combat mode holding no punches, I think that’s f-22 no contest, now maybe minus the all advantages of stealth (surprise attack, invisibleish on radar, etc) if it was a within visual range dogfight then maybe if the pilot is really tricky or gets lucky then I suppose the typhoon can get a few kills against an f-22 which I still find highly suspect but possible. Against a fully stealth f-22 tho….not being bias but no I’m sorry the typhoon is not winning that fight
The Typhoon has no semi-stealth characteristics and unfortunately, its a yesterday fighter design that entered the market too late. That was a program that was supposed to only take 10-12 years to develop and enter production. Instead, it sat in Development, delayed and overbudget, for almost 20 years missing its window. It still has its uses but its old 4th generation design and that declines its survivability each year.
The F22 and F35 are junk. Just profiteering for the US war machine.
@@lars277 Junk eh? Glad you can share your vast military experience with us while sitting in your parent's basement.
Gen John Jumper, who has flown both stated that the Typhoon was probably the better close in dog fighter. So..he clearly didn’t think it was a rubbish aircraft.
@@stallagiardino7877 - And a lot of experts say the F22 is better in a dog fight. But what makes the F22 better overall is it's stealth capabilities. It would kill a Eurofighter before the Eurofighter even knew it was there. There is a reason the US still doesn't export it to anyone.
Maybe it can maybe not only a f 117 stealth was shot down with a missle in serbia
there is no way to compare both fighters, the capabilities of the f-22 are top secret, unless you have that kind of clearance you don't know what it is capable of, they wont even sell it to anybody.
I like the narrator's expressive, nuanced presentation, a pleasure to listen to.
Put the bong down now, and step away from it.
Nothing in the world right now can take on a F-22 in air to air combat. Probably not even a group of 10 or less of anything can beat 1 F-22 in air to air! Yes, it is that bad-ass and we should build more! Remember, the F-22 is designed to fight Air to Air, not close air support, not bombing, etc. Air to Air!
He said "Eurofighter typKKoon" twice lol.
I would like to see this thing in a rate or two circle fight with a F-16 and I would bet my paycheck on the F-16.
...and were do they get the minerals/materials for productions?
Quoting the video - the Typhoon has 40 thousand pounds of thrust with afterburner which is an " incredible benchmark" - ???? hmmm , don't think so.
- Raptor - 70,000 pounds of thrust with Super cruise - mach 1.8
- The Typhoon may be an excellent dogfighter, but probably wouldn't even see the Raptor coming, and wouldn't survive the encounter.
The Raptor weighs in at 19,700 KGs empty weight..The Typhoon weighs in at 11,000 KGs empty weight. So it’s nearly 9 tonnes lighter in weight.. The thrust to weight ratio is very close. ..
@@stallagiardino7877 Supercruise mach 1.8 without afterburners (the definition of supercruise) and masked engines so it is difficult for heat detecting missiles to lock on. the Typhoon can only supercruise at 1.5 so yeah the 70,000 lbs makes a difference
We will never know for sure until they go up against each other and I don't mean simulations, a real dogfight.
yeah we will, we don't need reality to show a tricycle cannot beat a tank.
Its possible...let say you got an Ace Pilot over there vs an F22 piloted by Mr.Bean
I got my money on mr bean, especially if he was trained by the US air force and qualified to fly the F22
"This Jet Fighter Can Kill F-22 Raptor And SU-27" If they are unmanned and sitting on the tarmac.
LOL - !!!!!
John Curry you beat me to that comment 👍🏻
Wow 45 minutes for an engine out. Takes me longer to get my beetle engine out!
Ridiculous EURO hype. This is not a classical denial syndrome or typical trussle with conventional thinking, rather it invokes worry about the motivations.
Politics infiltrates everything these days.
The F22 is the first fifth generation fighter defeating many of the previous expectations and setting a high bar. NGAD will be then first sixth generation doing the same things. This is all based on very strong technological DNA. The technology is basically superior.
The most important thing overlooked is that strategists decide the technology and capabilities. There is no such thing as a separation of TST and Fundamental strategy. US planes have lots of strategy built into the plane with many future operational, tactical, and strategical considerations emphasized in design. This is the real strength of plane design.
The reason stealth was invented and heavily invested by the US was based on tactical studies.
US Col. John Boyd made this distinction very clear in what is a very underestimated OODA loop concept. Undoubtedly, it was influential to warplane design. It is in many respects the first real theory close to scientific strategy. Ironically, fast looping societies (as a whole) with large tech-trees make better weapons. The true test is not what a group of liberally minded thunderheads think in terms of spec-on-spec divides but on the strategic effects of strategically derived and prognosticated technology on the battlefield.
Hmmm.......the Danish airforce were in fact one of the first nations to adopt the F-16, back in the 70's, and they are still going Strong. But we have bought the F-35 indstead of the Euro Fighter and we begin service in 2023. Looking forward ✌️🇩🇰
This is nuts
Not only can the F-22 spot and shoot down any other Jet Fighter from beyond visual range, but the F-22 can fly circles around any of the European flying bricks mentioned. The F-22 is very old, yet still unsurpassed by any production aircraft today. If close in dogfighting were required, the F-22 has super maneuverability, with a sustained turn rate that other Jets just can't match. In simulations, and flight testing against all comers, the F-22 routinely fires all missiles and shoots down all advisories before they can even spot it. I was the CM Manager for the YF-22, and unlike the people that posted this misinformation, I know what I am talking about. The authors mentioned the F-16, but even the 50 year old F-15, US designed and built, has never lost an air to air engagement, unmatched 104 to 0 air to air kill ratio. European counties did not want to buy American aircraft because they suffer from "not invented here" syndrome. Still, from Sweden to France and Britain aviation, some nice looking, but second tier Jets are produced.
Rubbish.
@@alanjames5586 Over 30 years of experience, including flight test, combat simulation, at Northrop, Skunk Works... and what desk do you fly? Give credit where it is due, Martin Baker does make a great Ejection Seat.
@@alanjames5586 you can tell you lost an argument when your response doesn't support itself
The Raptor surely sounds invincible, but according to defense writer David Axe at WIRED, it was way back in 2006 when “F-22s from the 27th Fighter Squadron shot down one hundred forty-four 'enemy' F-15s and F/A-18s in mock dogfights.Nov 20, 2021
not enough missiles to do it in one flight.
I mean don't get me wrong the typhoon is cool but it's just nowhere near raptor level. I mean just on the thing's that we do know about the raptor it holds an immense advantage over the typhoon. But that's not even taking into account the thing's that we don't know about the raptor, considering a lot of systems are still classified, even the exact top speed it's still classified. It makes sense that with the world's most advanced fighter, the US isn't going to release everything about it. It's better when the enemy doesn't know your capabilities. Pretty much becomes an incredibly unfair advantage and that's the way we want it.
who cares there both on the same side lol
@@glennhearn401 No one is ever really on the same side.
@@patman0250 you mean like Russia and Ukarine?
@@MrMichaelBCurtis I don't know what you're implying, Ukraine and Russia have never been on the same side ever.
@@patman0250 ukraine was part of Russia for a very long time, and most of their equipment is Russian, so reality disagrees.
Fishes especially sharks are great motivation for canard winged aircrafts
So these countries have these fantastic fighters without the courage to use them against Putin 😵💫
It is called the Eurofighter T Y P H O O N. Not T Y C O O N
At 1:48 mark: "The specific usage of military aviation required by the USA differed from the tactics of fighters used by European countries". Umm... yeah. American fighter jets survive combat. We're picky that way.
The Phoenix missile can be launched at 120 miles away from it's target and can track 6 objects and select one to take out at one time. It flies at mach 6 for about 300 miles. No aircraft has been able to defeat it. This Typhoon can't match this. The F-22 can fire and forget and move on to the next target before the Typhoon can even see it.
So can the F15, F16, and FA18 Superhornet. If you believe otherwise, you are either terribly brainwashed or you work for the war profiteers.
That is not quite how the Phoenix worked. That is how the F-14 REO 'AN/AWG-9' weapons control system worked, which launched the Phoenix worked. Once the Phoenix dropped from its rails, it only tracks one target. -And the Phoenix was mainly designed to hit larger targets, like high flying Soviet Bombers. Soviet bombers that were on their way to nuke USA targets or they were carrying anti-ship missiles. The Phoenix was a naval accusation for fleet defense.
Guess what, darlings: I reckon this video is an advertisement for Eurofighter Typhoon. Did you expect this? This is lovely!
An American Artificial Intelligence tells us that Typhoon is good.
I surely believe in her 🙂
This video is irrelevant cause pilots will never talk and say this plane is better then that one. The fact is they were never built to fight each other. They all have their own purpose not to compete. Against the SU fighter of course that’s why they were built.
better THAN
I commend many knowledgeable responders for their measured and polite replies to the hypothesis that the Typhoon is a match for the Raptor. Context is everything, is it not? The whole point of the Raptor design was to dispense of 4th gen aircraft before the fight started. Designed more than three decades ago, the F-22 remains peerless in that role. A flight of Typhoons would be out of action before they ever knew the Raptor was there. Dogfighting is something a pilot does when he has to. Every combat pilot is trained in basic fighter maneuvers, but that sort of action is inefficient and often strategically counterproductive. Air superiority is key, and Ukraine’s success against Russia on the ground is a consequence of Russia’s ineptness in joint force combat, including the effective use of airpower. The Raptor is part of a system, a doctrine of interdisciplinary warfare, intended to deny the enemy a vote in the outcome, while keeping the engagement short and decisive. The Typhoon is a great dog fighter. The Raptor was designed to eliminate dog fighters. Nuff said.
"Seeing's believing"
The f4 if they would upgrade it to today's tech. You would beat everything
Umm no. Not a chance.
Would be fun to see.
nah it wouldn’t hahaha
Why do you keep saying "Tycoon"? most of the time you get it right but you keep slipping "Tycoon" in there! Lol
The F22 is not designed to dogfight, the idea that you should not bring a knife to a gun fight, a lot of fast maneuverable planes are designed as knife fighters and very good at it, the F22 is designed to kill the knife fighters long before they knew it was around. so the F22 doesn't need to be good at knife fighting.
Nice !
6:46 7:09 "tycoon" lol
Nonsense.
It's probably a good idea to read through the script a few more times to become familiar with the subject matter before you record it for the video... although the information was interesting the constant misread words became a distraction. ...Tycoon instead of Typhoon, "Hand points" under the wing instead of "hard points"...etc. thanks
*Amazing!!!. Liked & Subcribed!!!*
How many of these are in operation in Europe?
Got to admit there is quite a few inaccuracies.
The plane dosent have thrust vectoring
They don't use aspide or skyflash missiles, their outdated fox 1 types, they use now aim 120 or more commonly now meteors
The plane can also use irist missile
not to take away from this but I hate when the audio mentions a particular plane but shows a different plane
Did anyone else catch it where it said euro fighter "tycoon instead of typhoon lol
Impressive.
It is NOT the airforce of England! It is the airforce of the UK!
At one time this was a very tough plane. Now it’s outdated to much to be anything except a missile truck/carrier. And F22 or F35 would have to lead the way and use the missiles off these older planes that would never survive a contested airspace. This plane would light up a SAM system like a Christmas tree!!
Any fighter jet can shoot down any other aircraft. The key is the skill of the PILOTS.
How will it detect an F-22 Raptor in order to 'kill it'?
So this video is a sales pitch. Too bad that it’s an inferior aircraft, with inaccurate information about its competition and/or adversaries.
ROFL!
Shame on us in Europe that we did not work on a 5th and 6th generation together.
Loved the video, it was very interesting 👍
So we are comparing Oranges with Apples these days 🤩
Try landing a Typhoon multiple times on a carrier for most of its life.
You can't kill what you can't see, I'll bet on the F-22 !!🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
The typhoon is beautiful, but it'd be a falling ball of fire💥
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Several times the narrator calls it the 'Tycoon'...got a laugh there. After the merge, the Eurofighter has a chance against the F-22, maybe 40/60 at the very best. No one has seen exactly what the F22 can do in BFM, most of the info is classified. The big thing is that the Eurofighter will never get in a merge with an F22, because it will die before the F22 is seen. :) Gorgeous aircraft, definitely tops at the moment. An F-22 killer....doubtful.
They forget to mention most important thing in dogfight, and that's PILOT SKILL, when pilot isn't well skiled and trained, than no matter in which plane he is, he'll lose fight. All that we seen that in Iraq for example...
that they mention dogfight at all is the problem with this video, F22 is designed to kill LONG before a dogfight even looks promising
Please don't drink the kool-aid Daily Aviation is serving.
😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡. Are you drunk. A bad copy is better than the Original. 😂😂😂😂.
the eurofighter has no thrustvectoring as you said in min 7:46 . it was an idea to put that on it but was rejected by the partner countries becaus of the canards and the instable deltawingdesign
fighter jet version for india has.
"...The EJ200 engine has the potential to be fitted with a thrust vectoring control (TVC) nozzle, which the Eurofighter and Eurojet consortium have been actively developing and testing, primarily for export but also for future upgrades of the fleet. TVC could reduce fuel burn on a typical Typhoon mission by up to 5%, as well as increase available thrust in supercruise by up to 7% and take-off thrust by 2%..."
@@PrizrakZavtra india does Not have an Eurofighter
@@braverlumpie4073 does not yet but
@@PrizrakZavtra Would have, could have, didnt
This is a promotional video especially made to justify India's purchase of this junk.
Truth of the matter is, adding one more platform to India's already illogically diverse fleet would be a senseless waste of ten billion+ dollars, and would create a mindlessly complicated logistical and personnel training nightmare. Oh, that, and also, this aircraft is also an unproven, overpriced, obsolete junk.
Dog-fighting is the realm of 4th Gen Fighters and the Rafael doesn't have the RCS to tangle with 5th Gen Fighters. Long Range Air to Air Missile Swarms from distance is the 5th Gen Combat Environment. IRST is great that you can identify the target, but using it as a Fire Control lock for your missiles, good luck with that! Red Flag Exercises have shown the Superiority of 5th Gen Fighters vs 4th Gen Fighters!
Meh.... I doubt it.
It's called NIH -- Not Invented Here. It is also called RTWNMTC -- Reinvent The Wheel No Matter The Cost.
Well…. The Typhoon is a failure ….
whys that explain
When naming countries that fly the Eurofighter, the narratorreferred to England as one of the nations flying the aircraft. That was improperly stated. England is only a component part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are the political entities of the United Kingdom. They are one nation and should be properly referred to as that. That mistake causes me to doubt the accuracy of the entire video.
India went with the French fighter. Not the euro fighter. And they are going to go with their own in the end. The French fighter is just a bridge to cross the time till the have their own ready.
Well, at least it can kill those planes on paper and digital.
Why is there a photoshopped Sea Vixen at the head of this video 🤔😁😆
4:58 I'm sorry mate but the PANAVIA Tornado was a pan European program led jointly by UK with Germany and Italy also in the program. It was only the UK that developed and used the Air Defense Variant,(ADV) of the Tornado.
The Euro-fighter Typhoon, Known only as the RAF Typhoon in the UK, the best variant, was a British led program for an Air Dominance Aircraft,(ADA) or Air dominance fighter interceptor and now ground attack Close Air Support interdiction deep strike maritime defense and attack aircraft within the UK RAF, as I said the best version of all.
It was a BAE systems led project, a BAE design that was finally adopted by all partners because it met all standards and requirements of all partners nations and even more so after the collaboration finally came together nicely to give us am amazing aircraft.
More about the Typhoon, it can also use the Storm shadow deep strike ground attack missile, as well as the METEOR BVR for beyond visual range long distance engagements and also the MART ER Air launched anti ship missile, and Brimstone 3 missiles for fast attack craft and fast vehicles moving up to 70mph, dumb and guided bombs as well as US weaponry too.
Awesome aircraft. 🇬🇧
LOL