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Cleaning The Graffitied Coronation Chair | Westminster Abbey: Behind Closed Doors | Channel 5
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2022
- Do you know how many monarchs have sat in the #CoronationChair? The momentous piece of furniture is rich in history and even has 18th century graffiti carved into it by schoolboys. Expert cleaner Krista Blessley has the job (and pressure) of cleaning the chair.
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They should 3D scan this chair to keep every single detail and character accessible for the public online.
We need more of this! So many amazing objects I'd love to see up close that I'll never be able to in real life.
It’s the biggest reason I want hologram technology.
Great idea.Could 3D print replica for public display
3d scan it so it can be 3d printed
It might be graffiti but as a typographer, I have to say: that is some of the most beautiful and artfully crafted graffiti I’ve ever seen. That “J.G.” @2:16 is impeccably incised! Be thankful the students didn’t have cans of spray paint back then...
I was thinking the same thing. The font work was amazing.
Even the vandals had style back then.
The Abbott name was put in by Engravers with the rest of the bs added later.
My brother restored the gilt and paint on it in 1952 ready for QE 2 to sit on it.
Did they consider regilding the entire chair?
Very cool!
I’m guessing they upholster it for a coronation? Like a temporary upholstery?
Imagine attacking the chair with Graffiti and hiding the Abbott name with a silly story and attacking the Abbott name for two hundred years of history across the empire, just like they are doing with Trump today.
Every royal after Victoria was a Rothschilds.
I am frequently amazed by the quality of the handwriting and carving of these historic graffiti. Quite different from the damage done these days.
They likely had not much else to do.
We're these graffiti artists Abbey priests ?
@@AnneM76 They were school children and tourists, also damages from the suffragettes' bomb attack and Scottish nationalists.
I went to a state park which used to be a stone quarry. The graffiti from the bored workers with professional tools was amazing, almost like tombstones.
@@mikeoxsbigg1 Without TV and smartphones, they made their own fun by doing all sorts of trivially hideous things. Sleeping on and graffitiing the throne seemed like parts of the childish dare for 1800s Westminster schoolboys.
Lovely lady. The gentle way she takes care of the chair is amazing.
I am amazed that the chair is not stored behind glass to protect it from dust
some of the graffiti looks like scratches but some are so nice it looks like a professional with tools and super neat handwriting went at it (i wonder how long those took..they really must have turned a blind eye to protecting the chair in the past 🙂)
sharp tools carve wood like butter
P. Abbott. The man , the myth , the legend
Imagine attacking the chair with Graffiti and hiding the Abbott name with a silly story and attacking the Abbott name for two hundred years of history across the empire, just like they are doing with Trump today.
When I was there on a Wednesday evening in June of 1996 (I think), before the stone was sent back to Scotland and when everyone could still enter St. Edward’s Shine, the guard/guide offered us a folding chair to stand on to better photograph it. And then he offered to let us sit on THE CHAIR. I kind of wish we had in retrospect, but at the time it felt as if the entire abbey might collapse in on us if we dared defile such a sacred object.
Why are you wishing to sit on, and damage an ancient artifact??????
@@AhhhSukeSuke it wouldn’t be damaged by someone sitting on it. 🤦🏽♀️
How nice of the guard to let tourists sit on the chair. But for me, I would politely decline. It's just not proper.
@@envitech02 Exactly what went through our minds. The temptation was there and I still ask myself, “what if…” from time to time-what a story to tell! But my reverence for history and the throne it represents kept me off of it.
@@envitech02 Well it's not unprecedented. Tourists used to be able to pay to sit on it.
Greetings from the USA. I went to the top of the Washington Monument in DC in the 1980s. IIRC numerous people had carved tiny initials on the metal window panes.
Being a typical teenager, I would've added mine too, but didn't have a pocket knife with me.
People never change.
Oh wow when i went around Westminister Abbey years ago it was openly out on the back of the Abbey. It was high up but not inside glass or anything.
Those graffiti add to the character of the chair if you ask me
So you could say that she is the chairperson for the king's coronation.
Some want us to respect their cultural traditions yet forget this is Britains cultural tradition set over the course of 1000 years, before they even considered empire in the early 1600’s. Remember the British isles were invaded themselves by the Normans in 1066, you had the Ottomans invade Turkey and change their religion from Christianity then there were the Spanish Conquistadors who annihilated the Aztec empire.
This is the only European monarchy to celebrate a coronation of a monarch. Yes the institution may be outdated and somewhat out of reach but how much does the US President cost each tax-paying citizen when he travels around the world in that private jet or surrounded by those men in suits.
We are watching history replay again in cycles. A new monarch will be coronated in that chair. Speaking of cycles and hostile takeovers of England and vandalism, whenever I look at Stonehenge I can't help but imagine those stones lying on the ground got there during a hostile takeover. Did that event set the stage for the other hostile takeovers, including Roman, Saxon and Norman? It went through several cycles, too. If so, with Russia threatening England, are we all part of the history Stonehenge, part of another cycle?
And, speaking of the Aztecs, I was a Spanish major in school and went to Mexico one summer, and we studied the history and culture of Mexico. Unless new insights have come out, no one knows where the Aztecs came from. My theory is they came from Atlantis, and that when it went down, some went to Mexico as the Aztecs and a small group went to England and they taught the Beakers how to work in stone and built Stonehenge for rites of conflict resolution. Time to return Stonehenge to its historical traditions of conflict resolution, which explains its purpose better than its present use.
And we elect a new one every four years. Think of the expense wasted in doing that!
Abbotts built the empire the Rothschilds stole and had to discredit the Abbott name with a 200 year attck world wide rewriting history.
Imagine attacking the chair with Graffiti and hiding the Abbott name with a silly story and attacking the Abbott name for two hundred years of history across the empire, just like they are doing with Trump today.
If it's fragile, are they going to reinforce it? I hope it holds him up. It kind of making me nervous thinking of what mishap could happen. I hope everything goes well with the coronation.
If it breaks. He will end up sitting on Stone of destiny which is placed under that chair.
@@Hinata.Sakaguchi the stone of destiny is back in Scotland at the moment
edit my mistake it was brought back down to england for the coronation
@@GlowColourNails
It's still in Scone, actually... If you know, you know.
I love the graffiti. It gives it life and an identity. It's its own time capsule.
Your car could use a bit of life and identity right about now…
Send it to the shop great series
hmmm... 7 years to learn how to gently brush of dust... i watched a 7th/of a second, i think i get the idea...
the original throne of the Game of Thrones
The war of the roses
@@RandomVidsforthought The Hundred Years’ War before that
@@jo-vf8jx The anarchy before that
@Kim the Cat K
They should create a replica and put it in the abbey where people can sit on it
They tried that with the stone of destiny and we all know how that went back in Scone. ;)
This video is more interesting than coronation ceremony itself
P. Abbot what a lad 🫡
This was so short, it could have been a 2 episode RUclips short. More details next time! also are there any plans to update/renovate the chair? How long do they estimate it will last?
Makes you wonder what would happen if a king or queen sat in it to be crowned and the whole thing collapsed. Are they still the rightful king or queen?
@@annabellelee4535 Obviously they are artifacts and the continuity is amazing but its not necessary for the monarchy. If the king is dead Long live the King. That has always been and will always be and there is no real need for a crown or a throne thats just added symbolism.
@@kingofrivia1248 🤣🤣🤣It may be considered a bad omen, especially if it collapses and injures the king before he is crowned. Thankfully King Charles is slim, I don't think it would have a chance with a man of Andrew's bulk!
Will there be cushions on it-some sort of covering?
@@annabellelee4535 They'd definitely still be king/queen if the chair was destroyed. They become king/queen the second their predecessor dies.
So precious.. and it’s there in the abbey instead of being in a sealed, controlled environment display box with perfect air, temperature and humidity conditions and protection against fungi and insects.
These expert people are not so expert after all..
Why isn't it encased and protected in a dust proof temperature controlled enclosure? Honestly, the ridiculously lax way most of these important artifacts and paintings around the world are kept is astonishing.
Because it must be used at every coronation. On average every 25 years
@@wrichard11 From which time period did you factor your figure for average use? I can hardly think it pertinent to go beyond Queen Victoria -- folks aren't dying from "fever" quite the way they did in Tudor times anymore...
@@wrichard11 the last coronation was 70 years ago 😂
Curators have the ABILITY to take something out of a glass case in a museum. People take care of their comic books better than these precious art pieces - used every 25-70 years or not. It's unreal and indefensible laziness.
@@J-D1995 Do you really believe Charles will make it 70 years? William will probably be in his 50s when he takes the throne. Do you think he will make it 70 years? Elizabeth was an outlier. Do you understand the term "on average"?
P.abbot is real legend haha
She is so careful but soon someone in full regalia is going to sit on it, I bet some gold leaf comes off then ....👑
Was now thinking about this ❤❤❤❤
So.... Charles III will sit in a chair made in 1300?
Trained for seven years to use a soft brush. Now that's commitment!!!
I'm interested in Lions beneath the chair 😊
An intricate job for sure…
I was wondering whether those marks on the throne were graffiti when King Charles sat on it, indeed they were. hahana😂
This was my question yesterday while watching the coronation on myself regarding graffiti on the chair and my speculation was true also on how they were there. I had a brief visit in the abbey early this year and can’t remember if I have seen the chair or perhaps didn’t pay attention to it so much while going round with so much to see inside too.
From what they said during the coronation, the chair is kept in Scotland, with the provision that it can be returned to London just for coronations.
What a great job very cool also .
I salute the P. Abbotts of this world.
Through chance you have gained immortality.
Long may you be remembered
Killroy crowned here.
i think its kind of sweet that the monarchy allowed children onto it as if they were their own shows a really nurturing side
Yea pedos
That's not what happened. It was left unprotected in the Abbey whilst the students at Westminster School could just roamed freely. The monarchy were only concerned about the chair on Coronations. There was no thought about kids playing on it etc. We really only became concerned with 'heritage preservation' in the 20th century. Probably the second half of the century.
The chair should be re guilded and the graffiti could still remain underneath as a historical record.
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She should carve her name into it for taking such great care of a chair.
Pretty music! :)
The person who was in charge who came back to see the graffiti on the chair must have had a shock... "Oh shhhhhugar"
It may well be graffiti, however it's now part of the chairs history, and should be preserved as such. P. Abbott will come to mind at the kings Coronation.
I like his voice
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Here in America that’s a DIY repair project waiting to happen. 😝
Flip That Chair!
Homes and Gardens Channel, Thu at 8:00 EST
So where was the seat from scone placed ?
Love to see a few particularly Irish names carved into the chair... "O'BRIAN" and a very Prominent "KENNEDY" right in the top of the back.
I recently watched a show on Channel 5 called “Britain’s bloodiest dynasty” which is about the Plantagenets. They disguise the race of the actors using colourisation techniques in post-production. The entire image on-screen is colour filtered to give the images a brown hue. I only realised what was going on when I saw an actor who is unmistakably Indo-Pakistani and then I realised what a sneaky trick this broadcaster is playing on the public. I shouldn’t be surprised though because they did use an Afro-Caribbean actress to play Anne Boleyn in another show but the colourisation disguise is a really subtle and pretty foul trick to play on its indigenous audience about their own history.
I wonder how did they (the keepers of the coronation chair in the past) even allow visitors to touch and inscribe graffitis on the chair?? The chair should have been kept out of bounds from the visitors, just like any other crown jewels shouldn't it? How did that happen??
It was to discredit the Abbott name Engraved as Owners of the Throne.
Imagine attacking the chair with Graffiti and hiding the Abbott name with a silly story and attacking the Abbott name for two hundred years of history across the empire, just like they are doing with Trump today.
She studied for 8 years to dust.
Glad to see she's overcoming gender stereotypes.
why not just cover it so it does not get dusty??
Because then no one would be able to see it!
Nothing lasts forever. Let it shine while it lasts.
1:10 what music is that?
I think the throne... Should be covered with gold cloth drapes over it loops on the corners
Realistically though, it's not the chair that has the power to give royal authority, but the Stone of Destiny that is placed underneath it. Just the chair alone is simply just a chair, meaningless without the stone underneath.
why cant they put in in a case while it is not being used
No point they will need it again soon. 😟
@@mikepxg6406 it was useless for 70 years and 214 days
I remember seeing the chair and was surprised about the graffiti.
The graffiti ads a common man element. Shouldn't be removed.
It's a long tradition to carve initials into wooden furniture in England.
Yeah typical engerlish yob mentality.Nothings changed eh?
@@janegardener1662 yeah,they all are.
@@Dinobaburas.it’s seems our success has caused some controversy
Queen Diana ❤
fictional queen...
?? If they can put Diana's wedding dress behind a glass display case then somebody needs to WAKE UP and put that irreplaceable historic object behind a glass display case as well!
No mention of the Destiny Stone? Come on? Really? That incredible recent history and "Nothing" in this video mentions it? Those Scottish boys knew what they were doing!
Why not varnish it to preserve it?
Really!!!!!! wow
Modern wood preservative will cause damage to the chair.
@@dukeofglasgow9354 Perhaps that sort of thing should be left to the professionals. Many an antique has been ruined by people slapping on protective laquar.
Varnish won't preserve it. It will damage it more.
If its so delicate now, I hope they test it by having someone sit on it before Charles sits on it on coronation day. It would be terrible if it collapsed during the ceremony.
Do not fear: Charles bottom is equal to the rest of his noble person: no weight at all.
The stolen Stone of Scone was recovered from Westminster Abby on Christmas Day 1950 ! On the Dead Sea Scroll's solar calendar, after the Vernal Equinox starting the next Biblical Year, it was placed on the altar in the ruins of Arbroath Abbey on the 11th April 1951.
With a 21st March Vernal Equinox that year, this means that the Stone of Scone was placed on the
altar of Arbroath Abby on the last seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread: a Holy High Day !
So in the same BIBLICAL year:
• 1951 was 3400 years and the 68th Jubilee after the Exodus from Egypt ! (Working with a 4BC birth of Christ)
• Before the next Vernal Equinox King George VI died on the 6th of February 1951.
• Queen Elizabeth II immediately ascended the throne - although only later coronated.
i.e. The Stone of Scone was recovered in the Jubilee 7x7 49th year of 1950, and later placed on the High Altar of Arbroath Abby on the seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread - in the Jubilee 50th year of 1951 !
The Declaration of Scottish Independence drafted at Arbroath Abby and dated the 6th April 1320, was also in the midst of the Feast of Unleavened Bread:
The vernal equinox was the 20th March that year and the 7th April was the 4th day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread that year: the day of Christ’s resurrection on the Biblical annual calendar.
So 631 years later (6+3+1=10), on the last 7th Day of Unleavened Bread, being a High Day, the Stone of Scone was placed on the High Alter in the ruins of that very same Arbroath Abby, wrapped in the “Saltire” or “Saint Andrews Cross” - the national flag of Scotland.
Saint Andrew was the brother of Peter, and also an apostle and disciple of Christ.
In the 1320 “Declaration of Arbroath” the Scott’s claimed to be Israelites who migrated from Egypt to Spain to Ireland and then to Scotland !
Legend has it that the Stone of Scone would sometimes groan when a king was crowned on it. It is now apparent that the Stone of Scone had a flaw in it. It had a faint fracture that could be the cause of the noise when some weightier kings were crowned sitting on it: the fracture gradually progressed further and further under the weight and hence the “groans”.
When it was removed from beneath the coronation throne in Westminster Abby on Christmas Day 1950, it finally broke into two pieces in the process.
The smaller piece was secretly returned to Scotland almost immediately and the larger piece was returned sometime later.
Once re-assembled and re-enforced into the semblance of one stone, it was placed on the alter as described above.
When it was later back in Westminster Abby, Queen Elisabeth II was coronated on a broken Stone of Scone - what is the significance and implication of that as we see history unfold ???
Instead of dusting put it in an air cleaned glass container
I went to Greece and people in the early 1800s were horrible for their grafitti. It is said Lord Byron even carved his name into one of the Greek Temples!
It’s not graffiti, it’s a part of history. Someone hand me a knife so I can add my name for people 200 years in the future!
❤🌿🌺🇻🇦✝️🇻🇦🌺🌿❤🌿🌸⛑💮💝🏵✒📃📚💐😇💝🌿🥰🌸🌺🦊🇻🇦✝️🇻🇦🌸🦁🌿🌺💝🏵📚💮💐🌻🌺🌿⛑🇲🇬🌸🇲🇬🌿🇻🇦✝️🇻🇦🌿❤🙋♂️
Funny how grafitti gains historical value once it gets old enough
Today we would (rightly) shun some putting graffiti on an ancient piece of our heritage - when this graffiti was made, the chair was already hundreds of years old yet ironically it is itself now part of the chair's history
There is similar 'historic graffiti' to be seen in Edinburgh and Newcastle castles
Shout out to my homie P. Abbott
Where’s the coronation stone underneath?
According to the crown, in storage.
According to history.... It never left Scone...
If this was the US, instead of the UK, that chair would still look brand new, because our elders would’ve had plastic covers in it!
😂
So how soft is Charles gonna sit on the chair if it’s fragile?
We *beat* the Monarchy. Someone please tell the Press.
The graffiti makes the chair better
Quelles autres facéties pour amuser la galerie y aura-t-il? Roi=service à sa communauté surtout si c’est un roi d’opėrette comme les royautés d’aujourd’hui. Alors de grâce make it simple! Comme Québėcoise, je ne vous suis pas dans toute cette mascarade coûteuse. Tant d’enjeux importants sont au centre des dėbats… dommage que vous n’ayez pas utilisé ce moment-ci pour ėvoluer!
Some guys are pretty tuned…
end mondarchy
Wait a moment, where is the coronation stone? It seems to be missing.
They are going to send it down from Scotland in time for the coronation. Then it will be sent back.
@@redmi9834 I don't trust them to send it back.
Is this chair open to the public to run up and jump on it?? It wouldn't surprise me.
Not now, but a couple of hundred years ago, it apparently was.
Stuff
King "Abbott the Great". No wonder he fell asleep with the boring and exhausting ceremonies.....
Imagine attacking the chair with Graffiti and hiding the Abbott name with a silly story and attacking the Abbott name for two hundred years of history across the empire, just like they are doing with Trump today.
Where is the stone of David A.S
Why don't they restore the thing? Honestly I love history and a historic chair is great, but restore it to its glory.
I say get a builder to make you another one.
Meh, looks like firewood to me. Coronate King Chuckles on a dunce's stool, complete with conical paper hat.
I think fhe students from the 18th an 19th century were right to do the graffiti , as it belongs to the people and people clearly back then were more laid back. Now you cant even see it
Not ready?
This whole fiasco is just a waste of taxpayers money.
As an American, I am shocked at the condition of the chair! I always assumed Britain held higher standards for their historical artifacts than America does. Being of British decent, I am heartbroken to see this. I cherish every antique and collectible I own. Most that I have found on the streets cast aside for new, partical board laminate junk.
But the graffiti itself is also now hundreds of years old and part of its history
They do an amazing job at preserving their historical artefacts. The historic graffiti and signs of aging on this 700 year old throne only adds to its fascinating history. For the last century the chair has been completely protected from further “damage”, and preserved in its current state (total restoration would be a terrible idea). But 200+ years ago, medieval furniture was not greatly treasured or respected, and therefore people saw no harm in sitting/ sleeping upon this throne, or even carving their name. Completely different to today.
Some of the graffiti is as old as your country. It's part of the history of the chair now and one wouldn't wish it gone.
I agree about the laminate junk being preferred nowadays, but look at it this way; there was a time (Wars of the Roses, latter 15th century) when to touch the chair without being king or without his permission was looked on as treason, because the times were so fractious and troubled. It speaks to the peace and stability enjoyed through much of Britain's history that tourists were able to sleep in it or carve their names in it and no one took any notice. Britain's still there, after all.
why not a new THRONE
They have a throne, this is the coronation chair.
The old throne can not be used full time as the present royals are not real royals, only British Royals can use the chair not Rothschilds Bankers, you prolly ment a new chair from Cosco?
1:07
those carving in the wood, graffiti or some meaningful words?
expert at cleaning dust lol
when the cameras are off, they just wipe ot down with lemon pledge
That thing doesn’t look strong enough to hold king charles😂
Where is the rock that was under it, or am I thinking of another chair?
It's in Edinburgh Castle. The Queen returned it to rest in Scotland a few years ago. It was brought down to London for the coronation and return back to rest in Scotland.
Just so you know, I was the 667th like. Sorry Satan, not today...
Try again
It's fragile ... It's ok, he only has to sit on it 😂
if you actually watched the video , It's the Finnish that's fragile
nice grafitti and footage. you should be vacuuming colonising "royalty" into oblivion