I actually really loved Zamasu as a villain. the arc as a whole was really good, the ending wasn't too bad imo. I like how for the first time, there was no way they could beat Zamasu. No power up, no transformation, no special move, nothing. He was too strong, and he won. the Omni King was the only one capable of defeating him, which I think is pretty cool
I greatly enjoyed Zamasu as a character, and how Zamasu and Black played off on Vegeta and Goku. The arc has a LOT of highlights in there. I loved how in sync Zamasu and Black were able to move in their tagteam moves, making them a very devastating duo, and the fusion of the two i felt was literally the pinnacle of their divine perfection. The final monologue of that episode still sends some small shivers. This said though... the... writing felt very rushed and/or lackluster. Like the episode following the fusion, it started strong, but.. it played the exact same card from the very beginning.. to the end of the episode. Normally his monologuing played off of Vegeta and Goku, but in this particular episode.. its just really him monologuing.. where as the only real good thing coming from it being the Trunks and Vegeta double final flash.. And then in the two episodes following this felt like there was a LOT of growth and decline until it just.. finally ends.. and then it doesnt end and boof goes the universe, but its ok we'll still put trunks and mai out of the picture. Dont get me wrong, i think there might of been a way to do what they did.. i just think there needed to be.. a few more episodes and a lot better pacing in those episodes.
Ever since Zamasu appeared in the anime he became and will probably be my favorite villain from this point forward. Even though I didn't like his motives I understood that he only wanted to help and he *in his own mind* was a pure hearted person (kind of like Madara in Naruto).
I can't be the only one who REALLY enjoyed Zamasu & Merged Zamasu. Really wish they fleshed him out and the arc a little more personally. Regardless, obligatory I love you Masako comment!
Geargiaa TV you know, the likes on this comment probably mean others did enjoy Zamasu, and wished he were around a little longer. (And hey, some people think he is in the F Trunks Zeno, or something. But I doubt that.) I mean, I liked Zamasu, he made Vegito blue a thing (kinda)
definitely not the only person, he's my favourite villain, as I found him so much more unique and interesting compared to previous ones. I definitely wanted to see more of him, hope they bring him back somehow in a later arc.
Geargiaa TV I really like him too. "You don't need to be crazy in order to kill, you just need to think you're right." That quote suits him. If only the anime had a bigger budget, this arc would've been bigger, and probably would've had less salt over the ending.
When MasakoX is the best DBTuber in the game. Every other DBTuber is making click-baity shit about who the new tenth member for Universe 7 is going to be; Masako is just over here doing actual research and bringing real-world religious theories into DragonBall; making the world of Dragonball richer and more clearly defined. Kudos to you, mate, for not falling into the trappings of power-level theorizing or making other equally click-baiting content.
He never does videos about spoilers, nor does he really talk about them in his reviews. It's honestly a smart move to avoid all of that and there's still so much in Dragon Ball that hasn't been explored yet, esp. the stuff in Super so it's great that someone is covering it.
Zamasu was arguably the most compelling and engaging villain of the series, if for no other reason than his motivations. I hope we see something similar in the future.
Icezapper I was actually going to make a similar point. I wondered if this was a nod to that. (I also secretly hope that someone pisses off Caulifla and she goes SSJ4, since she seems to be progressing through the SSJ levels pretty quickly... But that's just me, i really love the design of SSJ4)
That's the most childish and nonsensical reply that I've seen in a while: you are basically trying to mute me because I'm saying the truth. I'm not sure if you are joking, but if you are, ok.
Ok 2 things : I'm glad they weren't named Blamasu, that sounds stupid and it doesn't make sense: Black NEVER actually referred to himself as Black and he is also fusing with another Zamasu. And secondly I'm pretty sure Zamasu was gonna grow new corrupted Shinjins so they could repopulate.
America Eagle zamasu and goku black are the same person bulma and trunks (from future) named him goku black becouse they didnt know goku blacks real name sry for bad english
Legend says Zamasu got triggered by this video, and I quote. ''NINGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'' Zamasu was a great villain, the Goku Black arc was the best !
I've been listening/viewing your discussions for quite a while, and I even helped with one, but I must admit, it was satisfying to see you talk about chakras and the spiritual imagery present in Dragon Ball. Brought me a new appreciation for these topics. Thank you, Masako.
I think this plays into Zamasu's "victory" at the end as well. He thought he became the ultimate God he was destined to be, better than the rest. But when he lost that halo, Zamasu sought punishment on himself and Gowasu even explains Zamasu's frustrations with the failures of gods, but now including himself. And so, "Corrupted Zamasu" really is a corruption of his own ideals. He's lost his purpose as a perfect God, his ideals had failed, and now he has nothing but his own ego. Once he becomes "infinite", he destroys everything, even that which he wanted to preserve. It got to the point where Zeno was disgusted with the sight, and we're talking about a God who has already destroyed universes himself. Zamasu "won", but only when looking at his goals towards the tail end of his story (that being only to destroy). In truth, he lost the moment he became corrupted. Gowasu even questions if Zamasu wanted to be a "misshapen god alone in a vacant cosmos" (as said in the dub). My two cents is no, he didn't, but it was too late at that point. Edit: Oh dang, You kind of talk about this is "Is Zamasu a Necromancer". Well, hopefully I expanded on it.
I love these videos, they're so well thought out and put together. I look forward to them when I get home from work everyday. I tend to agree about Zamasu. While the ending was a wash, the whole idea behind his character and what he went through puts him easily in the top three Dragon Ball Villains. He's right up there with King Piccolo and Freeza.
Would it have made more sense for the present Zamasu to fuse with Black? Considering we followed the present Zamasu in his thought process to who hebecomes, it would have worked out better. He could have escaped Beerus and his future self could've been sealed permanently, leaving him to meet Black and fuse with him.
If he played b-ball, would he be Slamasu? If he was fashionable, would he be Glamasu? If he were a pig, would he be Hamasu? If he owned a baby sheep would he be Lambasu? If he was twerkin' would you be sayin DAMNASU?!
Hey MasakoX....love your DB vids. Maybe you could do one on why Dr. Gero would have made artificial humans stronger than the emperor of the universe if he never even saw Frieza. He was calculating what he thought would be Goku's limits so there would have been no way for him to even assume that massive SSJ form. It seems like the Artificial Humans should have probably tanked out around Captain Ginyu's max level. Based on what Goku was when Gero was done watching him even that level would have been pretty extreme.
What if Zamasu was a complete race? Like what if he won and just filled the universe with creatures that mirrored him exactly? Just twelve universes of... Zamasi. Would they branch off and form different sorts of Zamasi? What would happen?
I always like to think that the original character was actually called Zamas (it even sounds like some characters call him that at points), and therefore the fusion between ZAMAS and gokU would lead to the name ZAMASU
merge zamasu reminds me of a final boss from a final fantasy.. Convoluted as hell how he came to be.. with a god complex.. he absolutely believes what he does is right..and i agred 100 percent the ending was quite lackluster.. btw.. its strange to see someone so smart like u to play a dingy chararcter like goku.. ps please sing don don kokuro dbgt theme in gokus voice.. and whats up with dbgt abridged bro!!! thx for rhe content and please keep it coming..
I really enjoyed your video! Your input is very logical and grounded in facts. Despite differences in opinion, cause I truly am enjoying Dragon Ball Super to the fullest, I really appreciated this video! Have a good day.
I think you missed some other divinity symbolism - the "lotus crown" Merged Zamasu has also is absolutely a gloriole/halo, which have been used to represent blessedness or godhood in many cultures and were especially prominent in Renaissance art of Christian figures. I think a lot of his poses also invoke those same ideas - the one with his hands out with the halo behind his head is very Jesus-on-the-crucifix-esque!
It's very interesting how MUCH these characters draw from in their representation. Before I saw this video, I felt like Zamasu was a bit like Loki from the Thor movies, a bit of a tragic whiner. Now I see he's more than that, I loved how you explained Super Saiyan Rosé too. This is perhaps the most amazing character design process I've ever seen in Dragon Ball as a whole. Before, it used to be the most complexly designed villain was Frieza, who was merely a combination of stereotypical horror creatures in an attempt to send a chill down the spines of readers and viewers (and I'm talking about physical design here, not personality, overall, I think Frieza's polite personality was a lot more spine tingling and riveting than Zamasu's cold god complex)
Your knowledge and study of esoteric knowledge is fantastic. I would love to hear more from you about such matters. In the off chance you'll know what I'm about to say, I will leave you with SMIB.
idk if you have or not, (kinda lazy to check right now), but I'd like to see you do a video on how you believe the Goku black arc should of ended. I enjoy the way you tell your stories (i.e. the what if videos) keep up the awesome work, masenko..... er... masako! lol
This video helped me beyond belief to appreciate that arc more. I liked it already, but to be able to explain spiritually what was happeneing with zamasu makes so much sense for his character. I still think it should have ended with Trunk's spirit sword attack. You could have justified his death even though he was half immortal. The pure spiritual energy of mortals was something he never experienced and it could have crumbled his ideology which would destroy his will. At that point his willingness to die would have been able to exploit his mortal half. Whis could have explained it following the event. Just an idea, I think, better than zamasu turning into the goo from Ghostbusters 2.
The entirety of Zamasu was very interesting and complex. Too bad they didn't do nearly enough to make that complexety more intimidating and dissapointed the writers made him annoying while realising they were writing for a kids show. Yet I still have my doubts about that finale.
It's complicated explanations like these that keep making me think that Toriyama didn't put as much thought into his concepts as you say, and any connections are pure coincidence. He just strikes me as the kind of guy who makes a design choice because it looks cool and not much else.
Merged Zamasu was actually one of the few villains in Dragon Ball that actually made me fear for the heroes with the possibility of them actually losing. And they technically did. Future Trunks' timeline was destroyed. This video only made my feelings about Zamasu being a great villain skyrocket. I love the amount of lore you described and I definitely agree that as soon as that halo of his was destroyed, he began to really lose it.
Hey Masako! Would it be possible to do a discussion or video on the characters Towa and Mira? They seem to be appearing in a lot of recent Dragon Ball games (Dragonball Online, Xenoverse I and II, Dragonball Heroes and most recently in Dragonball Fusions) and it would be awesome to know more about them. Thanks!
@MasakoX Hey I'm a new sub and a huge fan of your videos already. Do you think you could do a follow up on this video series involving the Chakra with Mystic/Ultimate Gohan? I feel like that would be an interesting topic to round up this series!
For you to go this deep into such a relatively "small" show is very impressive. Shows a lot of dedication. I would love to see you apply this to kind of examination to something with a much grander scope/longer history. i.e. american comic books. Take DC for example. Something like merged zamasu isn't even a drop in an ocean compared to the meta-fictional and spritual topics DC goes into, especially with it's vertigo titles ala Sandman, Lucifer etc. Unrelated, but I wonder if Omega Shenron from GT would be able to stop Zamasu, not on a power level, of course, but on a spiritual one. One would think that all the negative energy that Omega comprised would outweigh the paltry amount of good energy Trunks used to beat Zamasu and thus make for an even greater defeat of Zamasu on a spiritual level.
Considering the amount combinations of raging and complementing i've done on your videos, I can understand if you want to ignore me XD. But can we PLEASE do a video discussion on the design of Majin Buu' and all his forms? That is just one villain I'm overall curious about.
It would be a fine explanation for how his immortal soul maintained its form and self-awareness. His divine accolades still ring purely as a victory dance, though! The chakra examination between those videos is a nice touch; even in the event it is pure extrapolation, it always leaves me wondering about shared imagery in concepts that go without saying one culture but don't translate in the least to another. I'd say Zamasu divides so easily because he's the "principled fatalist" villain... as conceived by Akira Toriyama. Dragon Ball has no consistent code or theme to dispute, so from the moment you piece together who he is you know no one on our side will have answer... they'll just tell the man to pipe down. Even Trunks isn't so super shonen to miss the chance to call a spade a spade. People want more than the egomaniac, but that's really the only road that character has in Dragon Ball. I think it was well enough.
Regarding Zamasu's close-mindedness one could argue he was becoming disassociated with reality as his psyche fractured. Vegito mentioning "You have an answer for everything, don't you?"
masako. i have a "what if" for you. it might have to wait till the end of the current arc or you could explain it better. What if Trunks stayed in the past? i know you did one about this, but i am talking about him staying after the Black arc. how would this impact the story?
also, how would it affect the story if Zamasu was a permanent enemy. he was IMMORTAL after all. So... what if Zamasu stuck around and What if Trunks stayed in the past (after the black arc) plz and thank you.
Dude, I was not at all sad about the fused name being "Blamasu" until you pointed it out! It ruined my day to realise such potential of great villain names had been lost.
Masako, just thought I'd point out, Ningen is a japanese word, it means mortal AND human. It's used in the second Deathnote Ending for example. So the dub can deal with it very very easily, any mention of "ningen" can just be "mortals" or "mankind"
You may wish to also add to the discussion, that the original halo, the one in most of the shots of Merged Zamasu, is a Renaissance era depiction of high divinity as well. Only beings that were considered grand martyrs, the highest choirs of angels and representative angels of God, and lastly depictions of Christ the Divine (as opposed to the mortal Christ,) had similar crowns. The use of that crown though, is older, and was used in some minor art pieces of the Keys of Solomon (which is a Renaissance era compilation of early Jewish Kabbalists and Arab alchemists,) to summon "spirits" (demons and angels.) Just some interesting additional information to add, from the Western perspective of iconology.
i enjoyed ur video a lot :) There are some bizarre stuff not yet confirmed , how Goku Black killed all the Gods in all 12 universes and Grant priest fate at that time.Which also we know 4 universes with high mortal lvl + a fighter stronger than god of destruction. i hope they have some gd backup story line because fighters like hit,female broly, topo,jiren ,.... they wont go down that easy
I really loved this breakdown and now I'm sad that the arc didn't flesh this out more. Zamasu was the best and most fleshed out villain we had in dragon ball i wish the saga could've been longer so he could've been further developed and the ending could've been better
So there are really two possibilities: One is that Toriyama knew all of this and planned it out really well; Two is that Masako is REAALLY stretching the facts to make it fit or Three: Zamasu is real and, unkillable even by the Omni-king, is slowly infiltrating our existence from his own, now non-existent reality through the mind of Toriyama. *whispers* All hail Lord Zamasu
I have a question, why was it a bad idea for Powered Up Goku Black to merge with Zamasu? Is it that the powered up state also created a heightened emotional state which made Merged Zamasu more emotionally unstable over time?
I love Zamasu! I loved his motivation & Design the problem i felt with him was that his character was rushed; & i personally would have placed Zamasu's attack on the future after the tournament of power! That would further give reason to his Motivation
Hey MasakoX I have something interesting in mind...what if the timeline Beerus made was the timeline where Zamasu took Goku's body? I mean in future trunk's timeline goku died from the heart attack right?
I think that the cloud form of Zamasu is the final stage of his degregation where he's reached the point of insanity where there is no return, his body utterly destroyed by Trunks and his overwhelming presence a sickly green and a mass of shadowy faces.
On Zamasu's "Purity", I believe I heard somewhere that Spike the Devilman's Devil Beam doesn't work on Zamasu. Despite his horrible actions, he was still pure of heart. While he murdered millions, he's intentions were good. Or something like that lol
I LOVED the ending. Because it had this sort of horrific undertone that not only is Zeno not omniscient but also bringing this other omnipotent character into the main timeline. Plus when Future Mai fires her gun into the sky was probably the best acting I've ever had in all of Dragon Ball. Future Trunks and Future Mai are then sent off to a time that not only isn't theirs but there would be another version of them felt bittersweet, which is exactly what I wanted as an ending. I loved the ending. Maybe that's just me though.
best part is in western hermetism after zamasu attaining samadhi his karma became under the guidance of divine Providence so Goku in the end summoning Zeno is also part of karma of falling from that state. Because divine Providence is the end authority, after getting to that level you get a task from it that you need to complete, he did not listen to it. So hé fell, because IT is seen as An abuse of power. I also can recommend the work of Hermes trismagistus and Franz Bardon for more info
Before watching the video: I thought back then about merged Zamasu being an homage to Susanoo, the shinto god. I called him Zamasuo because of that. It reminded me of Susanoomon, they both have a smiliar halo on the back.
Merged Zamasu: SON GAAAAAKUUUUUUU!
Gowasu: He has devolved into saying only a single word... (borrows Goku's button) Time to hit the ol' cosmic trail.
Jinx The Babe Cannon Don't forget to include Zamasu's favourite word - N I N G E N.
Fart Face And his second subarashii.
Jinx The Babe Cannon that's two words.
:3
(1) Son (2) Goku
KAAAAKARRRRROTTTT!,
KiSwordsman but in the dub, it will be only Goku.
What if Broly saw Bardock,Black,Goku,Goku Jr,Goten and Turles at the same time!?
***** hahaha ikr
ZenpaiiiGamingYT R.I.P broly becouse goku would kill that bastard
IS IT BROLYS BIRTHDAY?
KAKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-
[BrolyRage.exe has encountered a fatal error]
ZenpaiiiGamingYT that's how he achieved his god form in the 4D universal ride
Frieza = Emperor
Cell = Perfection
Buu = Chaos
Zamasu = Tea
XD
Kyle
Hippo Blob zamasu = limitless
Goku =aaaaaaaaah😅
I actually really loved Zamasu as a villain. the arc as a whole was really good, the ending wasn't too bad imo. I like how for the first time, there was no way they could beat Zamasu. No power up, no transformation, no special move, nothing. He was too strong, and he won. the Omni King was the only one capable of defeating him, which I think is pretty cool
I greatly enjoyed Zamasu as a character, and how Zamasu and Black played off on Vegeta and Goku. The arc has a LOT of highlights in there. I loved how in sync Zamasu and Black were able to move in their tagteam moves, making them a very devastating duo, and the fusion of the two i felt was literally the pinnacle of their divine perfection. The final monologue of that episode still sends some small shivers.
This said though... the... writing felt very rushed and/or lackluster. Like the episode following the fusion, it started strong, but.. it played the exact same card from the very beginning.. to the end of the episode. Normally his monologuing played off of Vegeta and Goku, but in this particular episode.. its just really him monologuing.. where as the only real good thing coming from it being the Trunks and Vegeta double final flash.. And then in the two episodes following this felt like there was a LOT of growth and decline until it just.. finally ends.. and then it doesnt end and boof goes the universe, but its ok we'll still put trunks and mai out of the picture.
Dont get me wrong, i think there might of been a way to do what they did.. i just think there needed to be.. a few more episodes and a lot better pacing in those episodes.
Ever since Zamasu appeared in the anime he became and will probably be my favorite villain from this point forward. Even though I didn't like his motives I understood that he only wanted to help and he *in his own mind* was a pure hearted person (kind of like Madara in Naruto).
I can't be the only one who REALLY enjoyed Zamasu & Merged Zamasu. Really wish they fleshed him out and the arc a little more personally. Regardless, obligatory I love you Masako comment!
Geargiaa TV you know, the likes on this comment probably mean others did enjoy Zamasu, and wished he were around a little longer. (And hey, some people think he is in the F Trunks Zeno, or something. But I doubt that.)
I mean, I liked Zamasu, he made Vegito blue a thing (kinda)
It's either they love Zamasu, or love Masako. XD
But yeah, I don't agree with the Zeno thing personally, would be CRAZY though.
definitely not the only person, he's my favourite villain, as I found him so much more unique and interesting compared to previous ones. I definitely wanted to see more of him, hope they bring him back somehow in a later arc.
Geargiaa TV Do you actually gonna prefer to have Zeno getting a character development or keep his childish mentality as it is?
Geargiaa TV I really like him too.
"You don't need to be crazy in order to kill, you just need to think you're right." That quote suits him. If only the anime had a bigger budget, this arc would've been bigger, and probably would've had less salt over the ending.
I still can't get over the fact that Merged Zamasu is just asking for the biggest hug ever
That or he's doing the ultimate Come at me Bro.
Diego Medina That's a likely possibility
Porque no los dos?
mjangelvortex 🎉🎊🎉🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉
GOD OF EDGE WANTS A HUUUUUUG!...
When MasakoX is the best DBTuber in the game. Every other DBTuber is making click-baity shit about who the new tenth member for Universe 7 is going to be; Masako is just over here doing actual research and bringing real-world religious theories into DragonBall; making the world of Dragonball richer and more clearly defined.
Kudos to you, mate, for not falling into the trappings of power-level theorizing or making other equally click-baiting content.
He never does videos about spoilers, nor does he really talk about them in his reviews. It's honestly a smart move to avoid all of that and there's still so much in Dragon Ball that hasn't been explored yet, esp. the stuff in Super so it's great that someone is covering it.
Killertofu Here here! This is way too true
Zamasu was arguably the most compelling and engaging villain of the series, if for no other reason than his motivations.
I hope we see something similar in the future.
Spoiler alert Tournament Of Power came it sucked. Except for 2 scenes and thats all
Zamasu the true ultimate pinnacle of power that never will be or never can be matched. RIP ZAMASU!!
Zamasu: the first ssj white
Icezapper I was actually going to make a similar point. I wondered if this was a nod to that.
(I also secretly hope that someone pisses off Caulifla and she goes SSJ4, since she seems to be progressing through the SSJ levels pretty quickly... But that's just me, i really love the design of SSJ4)
Actually, the 2nd: the first one was Baby Vegeta
That's the most childish and nonsensical reply that I've seen in a while: you are basically trying to mute me because I'm saying the truth. I'm not sure if you are joking, but if you are, ok.
C'mon guys lets try be positive in this comment section
TSotP Nah. Ssj4 is not achievable without ssj3 or ozaru. And since she hasn't died or had a tail, she can't do that
white hair and aura can mostly be described as purity.
Zamasu underwent universal genocide......YEAH PURITY
Remnant's Sage Pure evil. Ha you failed. Don't worry I'm a troll.
Ha I like this comment section 😁
Remnant's Sage Guru approved annihilation
Remnant's Sage He was attempting to purify the universe of mortals, who he believed were corrupt and untworthy of living.
Wasn't his hair already white tho
Fun fact: Zamasu was the protagonist and those petty ningen were the villains.
His failure is currently being put in motion in the current arc.
Yep we were watching a tragedy all along.
Ok 2 things : I'm glad they weren't named Blamasu, that sounds stupid and it doesn't make sense: Black NEVER actually referred to himself as Black and he is also fusing with another Zamasu. And secondly I'm pretty sure Zamasu was gonna grow new corrupted Shinjins so they could repopulate.
America Eagle I agree
Zamamasu?
PepsiBeastin that sounds even worse lol
America Eagle zamasu and goku black are the same person bulma and trunks (from future) named him goku black becouse they didnt know goku blacks real name sry for bad english
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Oh, oh, I know a name; How about Clichéd?
Legend says Zamasu got triggered by this video, and I quote.
''NINGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''
Zamasu was a great villain, the Goku Black arc was the best !
goku black arc and cell arc are the best ever!!
I've been listening/viewing your discussions for quite a while, and I even helped with one, but I must admit, it was satisfying to see you talk about chakras and the spiritual imagery present in Dragon Ball. Brought me a new appreciation for these topics. Thank you, Masako.
I just loved how he T-posed for half an episode!
I say it looks more like an A pose
I think this plays into Zamasu's "victory" at the end as well. He thought he became the ultimate God he was destined to be, better than the rest. But when he lost that halo, Zamasu sought punishment on himself and Gowasu even explains Zamasu's frustrations with the failures of gods, but now including himself. And so, "Corrupted Zamasu" really is a corruption of his own ideals. He's lost his purpose as a perfect God, his ideals had failed, and now he has nothing but his own ego. Once he becomes "infinite", he destroys everything, even that which he wanted to preserve. It got to the point where Zeno was disgusted with the sight, and we're talking about a God who has already destroyed universes himself.
Zamasu "won", but only when looking at his goals towards the tail end of his story (that being only to destroy). In truth, he lost the moment he became corrupted. Gowasu even questions if Zamasu wanted to be a "misshapen god alone in a vacant cosmos" (as said in the dub). My two cents is no, he didn't, but it was too late at that point.
Edit: Oh dang, You kind of talk about this is "Is Zamasu a Necromancer". Well, hopefully I expanded on it.
*ZAMAS!!!!!!!*
glares..
filthy ningen
Mark Johnson *Gowasu voice*
I personally am disappointed that he wasn't named Zack
chortle
I forgot to subscribe to MasakoX until today. I really enjoy his discussions. Keep it up!
I love these videos, they're so well thought out and put together. I look forward to them when I get home from work everyday.
I tend to agree about Zamasu. While the ending was a wash, the whole idea behind his character and what he went through puts him easily in the top three Dragon Ball Villains. He's right up there with King Piccolo and Freeza.
i love what ur doing,masako u bring me joy everytime u upload
This video was incredibly interesting. Great video bro.
Zamasu did nothing wrong.
is this a barsark refrenc
MergedPotato is that a JoJo refrence?
Everything is a Jojo reference.
No Zamasu is the true hero of Dbz I understand everything he does completely
Jarikku i know that why he is my favorite
0:41 ya, it should have ended there, with me, beating Zamasu's ass to HFLL.
Vegito Blue yes
Nope.
real shame you defused
Zamasu Black (I was beating your ass before I defused but that is besides the point)😎
bshxh *cough cough, That's what she said, cough, cough*
I actually dug the ending. Teaching Trunks self reliance. He can't just keep coming to the past for help, unless he wants to create another Zamasu.
Would it have made more sense for the present Zamasu to fuse with Black? Considering we followed the present Zamasu in his thought process to who hebecomes, it would have worked out better. He could have escaped Beerus and his future self could've been sealed permanently, leaving him to meet Black and fuse with him.
Skyrogue19 that zamasu was black, it's just because the time ring that whatever happens in the past doesn't affect him
If he played b-ball, would he be Slamasu? If he was fashionable, would he be Glamasu? If he were a pig, would he be Hamasu? If he owned a baby sheep would he be Lambasu? If he was twerkin' would you be sayin DAMNASU?!
I would have loved it, if they threw Merged Zamasu into the Dead Zone.
Hey MasakoX....love your DB vids. Maybe you could do one on why Dr. Gero would have made artificial humans stronger than the emperor of the universe if he never even saw Frieza. He was calculating what he thought would be Goku's limits so there would have been no way for him to even assume that massive SSJ form. It seems like the Artificial Humans should have probably tanked out around Captain Ginyu's max level. Based on what Goku was when Gero was done watching him even that level would have been pretty extreme.
What if Zamasu was a complete race? Like what if he won and just filled the universe with creatures that mirrored him exactly? Just twelve universes of... Zamasi. Would they branch off and form different sorts of Zamasi? What would happen?
I always like to think that the original character was actually called Zamas (it even sounds like some characters call him that at points), and therefore the fusion between ZAMAS and gokU would lead to the name ZAMASU
Thank you bro for doing a Zamasu video!
merge zamasu reminds me of a final boss from a final fantasy.. Convoluted as hell how he came to be.. with a god complex.. he absolutely believes what he does is right..and i agred 100 percent the ending was quite lackluster.. btw.. its strange to see someone so smart like u to play a dingy chararcter like goku.. ps please sing don don kokuro dbgt theme in gokus voice.. and whats up with dbgt abridged bro!!! thx for rhe content and please keep it coming..
I really enjoyed your video! Your input is very logical and grounded in facts. Despite differences in opinion, cause I truly am enjoying Dragon Ball Super to the fullest, I really appreciated this video! Have a good day.
I think you missed some other divinity symbolism - the "lotus crown" Merged Zamasu has also is absolutely a gloriole/halo, which have been used to represent blessedness or godhood in many cultures and were especially prominent in Renaissance art of Christian figures. I think a lot of his poses also invoke those same ideas - the one with his hands out with the halo behind his head is very Jesus-on-the-crucifix-esque!
He should have been called Zack
MedicEne you deserve a medal
Inb4 a dub for kids names him that or something
MedicEne this man's not black
great insight and added a lot of depth to zamasus character. masako killed this one.
Merged Zamasu is Naruto. BELIEVE IT!
Jamie Whatcott Ha. Zamasus shit solos Naruto and his universe.
Really enjoyed this vid. Great work and info. Enjoyed Goku Black Arc
It's very interesting how MUCH these characters draw from in their representation. Before I saw this video, I felt like Zamasu was a bit like Loki from the Thor movies, a bit of a tragic whiner. Now I see he's more than that, I loved how you explained Super Saiyan Rosé too. This is perhaps the most amazing character design process I've ever seen in Dragon Ball as a whole. Before, it used to be the most complexly designed villain was Frieza, who was merely a combination of stereotypical horror creatures in an attempt to send a chill down the spines of readers and viewers (and I'm talking about physical design here, not personality, overall, I think Frieza's polite personality was a lot more spine tingling and riveting than Zamasu's cold god complex)
Your knowledge and study of esoteric knowledge is fantastic. I would love to hear more from you about such matters. In the off chance you'll know what I'm about to say, I will leave you with SMIB.
idk if you have or not, (kinda lazy to check right now), but I'd like to see you do a video on how you believe the Goku black arc should of ended. I enjoy the way you tell your stories (i.e. the what if videos) keep up the awesome work, masenko..... er... masako! lol
This video helped me beyond belief to appreciate that arc more. I liked it already, but to be able to explain spiritually what was happeneing with zamasu makes so much sense for his character. I still think it should have ended with Trunk's spirit sword attack. You could have justified his death even though he was half immortal. The pure spiritual energy of mortals was something he never experienced and it could have crumbled his ideology which would destroy his will. At that point his willingness to die would have been able to exploit his mortal half. Whis could have explained it following the event. Just an idea, I think, better than zamasu turning into the goo from Ghostbusters 2.
please make video on what if Gohan learned the technique of using Z sword or what if Vegeta learned kamahameha after his first battle with Goku
last day of school and Masako started it off right for me
The entirety of Zamasu was very interesting and complex. Too bad they didn't do nearly enough to make that complexety more intimidating and dissapointed the writers made him annoying while realising they were writing for a kids show.
Yet I still have my doubts about that finale.
You know, with all these theory and explanation videos I'm starting to believe that the writers are secretly complete geniuses.
"Something that resembles the love child of a star and a plate."
Need to use that sometime
Fused Zamasu sounds like a poor man's Virgo Shaka from Saint Seiya. Awesome observations!
It's complicated explanations like these that keep making me think that Toriyama didn't put as much thought into his concepts as you say, and any connections are pure coincidence. He just strikes me as the kind of guy who makes a design choice because it looks cool and not much else.
Merged Zamasu was actually one of the few villains in Dragon Ball that actually made me fear for the heroes with the possibility of them actually losing. And they technically did. Future Trunks' timeline was destroyed.
This video only made my feelings about Zamasu being a great villain skyrocket. I love the amount of lore you described and I definitely agree that as soon as that halo of his was destroyed, he began to really lose it.
Hey Masako! Would it be possible to do a discussion or video on the characters Towa and Mira? They seem to be appearing in a lot of recent Dragon Ball games (Dragonball Online, Xenoverse I and II, Dragonball Heroes and most recently in Dragonball Fusions) and it would be awesome to know more about them. Thanks!
@MasakoX Hey I'm a new sub and a huge fan of your videos already. Do you think you could do a follow up on this video series involving the Chakra with Mystic/Ultimate Gohan? I feel like that would be an interesting topic to round up this series!
good to see some one know something about the Sahaswara chakra.
Love your poetic explanation
For you to go this deep into such a relatively "small" show is very impressive. Shows a lot of dedication.
I would love to see you apply this to kind of examination to something with a much grander scope/longer history. i.e. american comic books.
Take DC for example. Something like merged zamasu isn't even a drop in an ocean compared to the meta-fictional and spritual topics DC goes into, especially with it's vertigo titles ala Sandman, Lucifer etc.
Unrelated, but I wonder if Omega Shenron from GT would be able to stop Zamasu, not on a power level, of course, but on a spiritual one. One would think that all the negative energy that Omega comprised would outweigh the paltry amount of good energy Trunks used to beat Zamasu and thus make for an even greater defeat of Zamasu on a spiritual level.
Considering the amount combinations of raging and complementing i've done on your videos, I can understand if you want to ignore me XD. But can we PLEASE do a video discussion on the design of Majin Buu' and all his forms? That is just one villain I'm overall curious about.
Can't wait for Merged 17, that push ssbk thats means hes stronger
merged 17 really?
DGP cause why not? i bet thats a GoD level shit
AwesomeThePowerScaler Merged 17? wtf?
Its not GT mate there's no doctor left to replicate another 17 and make super 17
No just no.
Masako x i think the next video you should explore the idea of what if zeno sama allows fusion in the tournament of power
It would be a fine explanation for how his immortal soul maintained its form and self-awareness. His divine accolades still ring purely as a victory dance, though! The chakra examination between those videos is a nice touch; even in the event it is pure extrapolation, it always leaves me wondering about shared imagery in concepts that go without saying one culture but don't translate in the least to another.
I'd say Zamasu divides so easily because he's the "principled fatalist" villain... as conceived by Akira Toriyama. Dragon Ball has no consistent code or theme to dispute, so from the moment you piece together who he is you know no one on our side will have answer... they'll just tell the man to pipe down. Even Trunks isn't so super shonen to miss the chance to call a spade a spade. People want more than the egomaniac, but that's really the only road that character has in Dragon Ball. I think it was well enough.
"Resembles the love child of a star and a plate."
Help I can't breathe!! XDXD
I learned so much from this video, awesome
Not going anywhere for a while?
Grab a snickers.
lol
Regarding Zamasu's close-mindedness one could argue he was becoming disassociated with reality as his psyche fractured. Vegito mentioning "You have an answer for everything, don't you?"
"now when a yogi-" imma stop you right there. no picanic baskets are getting stole today
It almost makes me mad how much sense the chakra color theory makes
Merged Zamasu was interesting but his fights were boring apart from the 5 minutes against Vegito Blue.
rakmal 786 i wish we saw him for more than just two episodes.
His fights before vegetto reminded me more of an RPG boss battle
VDMW Moldis yeah. Goku and vegeta are level 35 while zamasu is like level 60 XD.
Man, you are a real dragon ball fanatic!
masako. i have a "what if" for you. it might have to wait till the end of the current arc or you could explain it better. What if Trunks stayed in the past? i know you did one about this, but i am talking about him staying after the Black arc. how would this impact the story?
also, how would it affect the story if Zamasu was a permanent enemy. he was IMMORTAL after all. So... what if Zamasu stuck around and What if Trunks stayed in the past (after the black arc) plz and thank you.
MasakoX, I'm from Southeast Alaska.
Where did you get your Northwest Native design???
that's awesome you got something like that.
Dude, I was not at all sad about the fused name being "Blamasu" until you pointed it out! It ruined my day to realise such potential of great villain names had been lost.
Masako, just thought I'd point out, Ningen is a japanese word, it means mortal AND human. It's used in the second Deathnote Ending for example. So the dub can deal with it very very easily, any mention of "ningen" can just be "mortals" or "mankind"
You may wish to also add to the discussion, that the original halo, the one in most of the shots of Merged Zamasu, is a Renaissance era depiction of high divinity as well. Only beings that were considered grand martyrs, the highest choirs of angels and representative angels of God, and lastly depictions of Christ the Divine (as opposed to the mortal Christ,) had similar crowns. The use of that crown though, is older, and was used in some minor art pieces of the Keys of Solomon (which is a Renaissance era compilation of early Jewish Kabbalists and Arab alchemists,) to summon "spirits" (demons and angels.)
Just some interesting additional information to add, from the Western perspective of iconology.
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"He could see everything"
but could he see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?
He could,had he not murdered most of the kids.
SSjRose has nothing to do with Merged Zamasu breaking down. It was because the fusion was only half immortal.
I don't really agree that the chakra stuff is as deeply connected in DBS as Masako claims. I doubt the writers have that much connection in mind.
Kanye imma let you finish, but the Future Trunks arcs are the best arcs of any Dragon Ball series eva.
You think we can get a video on your opinion on DB Super being a Saturday morning show as opposed to one at night?
i enjoyed ur video a lot :) There are some bizarre stuff not yet confirmed , how Goku Black killed all the Gods in all 12 universes and Grant priest fate at that time.Which also we know 4 universes with high mortal lvl + a fighter stronger than god of destruction. i hope they have some gd backup story line because fighters like hit,female broly, topo,jiren ,.... they wont go down that easy
I really loved this breakdown and now I'm sad that the arc didn't flesh this out more. Zamasu was the best and most fleshed out villain we had in dragon ball i wish the saga could've been longer so he could've been further developed and the ending could've been better
I had long had similar thoughts about this arc, which is why I loved it. I still don't quite get why some seem to hate it
Masako, grande nerdone. Best dragon ball channel of the webbbb
So there are really two possibilities: One is that Toriyama knew all of this and planned it out really well; Two is that Masako is REAALLY stretching the facts to make it fit or Three: Zamasu is real and, unkillable even by the Omni-king, is slowly infiltrating our existence from his own, now non-existent reality through the mind of Toriyama.
*whispers* All hail Lord Zamasu
I have a question, why was it a bad idea for Powered Up Goku Black to merge with Zamasu? Is it that the powered up state also created a heightened emotional state which made Merged Zamasu more emotionally unstable over time?
You'd think that Zamasu would have the foresight to realize that bad idea of fusing an immortal person with a mortal one
*Black-asu*: "In this episode I am euphoric."
Masako should do a chakra video on super Saiyan rage, being it's a mixture of yellow and blue
I love Zamasu! I loved his motivation & Design the problem i felt with him was that his character was rushed; & i personally would have placed Zamasu's attack on the future after the tournament of power! That would further give reason to his Motivation
Hey MasakoX I have something interesting in mind...what if the timeline Beerus made was the timeline where Zamasu took Goku's body? I mean in future trunk's timeline goku died from the heart attack right?
I think that the cloud form of Zamasu is the final stage of his degregation where he's reached the point of insanity where there is no return, his body utterly destroyed by Trunks and his overwhelming presence a sickly green and a mass of shadowy faces.
wait ik this was like secen years ago but i watched the whole video and didnt explain why Masako was saying goku black should've powered down
If frieze steals a potara ear ring from any of the kais we could be looking at God frieza
On Zamasu's "Purity", I believe I heard somewhere that Spike the Devilman's Devil Beam doesn't work on Zamasu. Despite his horrible actions, he was still pure of heart. While he murdered millions, he's intentions were good.
Or something like that lol
I like this nerd yo
I LOVED the ending. Because it had this sort of horrific undertone that not only is Zeno not omniscient but also bringing this other omnipotent character into the main timeline. Plus when Future Mai fires her gun into the sky was probably the best acting I've ever had in all of Dragon Ball. Future Trunks and Future Mai are then sent off to a time that not only isn't theirs but there would be another version of them felt bittersweet, which is exactly what I wanted as an ending. I loved the ending. Maybe that's just me though.
best part is in western hermetism after zamasu attaining samadhi his karma became under the guidance of divine Providence so Goku in the end summoning Zeno is also part of karma of falling from that state. Because divine Providence is the end authority, after getting to that level you get a task from it that you need to complete, he did not listen to it. So hé fell, because IT is seen as An abuse of power. I also can recommend the work of Hermes trismagistus and Franz Bardon for more info
When the concept of Merged Zamasu was first mentioned, I wanted to call him "Zack". I even tweeted at Geekdom hoping it would blow up.
Before watching the video:
I thought back then about merged Zamasu being an homage to Susanoo, the shinto god. I called him Zamasuo because of that.
It reminded me of Susanoomon, they both have a smiliar halo on the back.