For those struggling with grasping these truths, please hear the full sermon that this excerpt is taken from, "The Rarity of Christ's Love": ruclips.net/video/LDvGf-mCUpc/видео.html
Your message has caused a lot of division which is not of God, & if there's more to this message then don't post just half. I pray a sinner who does not know the word of God does not come on here and hear this and feel it's hopeless that they can't repent because God hates them and commit suicide. Jesus never once taught or preached My Father Hates you. How is this telling them God hates them winning souls to the Kingdom of God? Jesus did not come to save the church, for the church already has a physician, but there's people out here in this world that are dying without Christ Jesus as their Lord Saviour and he is there physician. People are dealing with fear, depression, panic attacks, etc....& this message would push anyone who doesn't know God's precious word over the cliff! If you're going to post something like this at least let him know there is a way out and that way out is through Jesus Christ and by Repentance. This is just crazy. I pray for you.
Thank you so much I really needed to hear desperately . Is a topic that needs to be heard. Please keep preaching . Gods wrath and pusnishment something that we must know. Is vital.
@@peaceinjesuschrist4987 I understand what you're saying, but maybe staying positive and sweet loving sermons inhibits us from accepting the inconvenient realities.Fearing God is Wisdom.Tims sermons are for people who are looking for the truth. God is our saviour but also a Judge . We need to understand Gods wrath. We all going to be judged. We all sinners. But we dont know how wicked and evil we are and Tim is making me realise that. and thats very important. There is steve furtick and td jakes were the lukewarms can watch but Tim is only one of the few who actually telling the reality
@@peaceinjesuschrist4987 Good evening Sister , CAN I ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS PLEASE : 1. When God destroyed all of mankind and spared only Noah and his family, was Jesus Christ in agreement? 2. When God destroyed sodom & Gomorrah was Jesus Christ present and was he in agreement? 3. When God said he hated Esau, Was Jesus Christ present and was he in agreement with the rest of the God head? NOW please answer the remaining questions linked to the passages below.
Revelation 6:15-17 (KJV) 4. Who are these men hiding from? 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 5. Who is the Lamb referred to in this verse & why did the people prefer the mountains & rocks to fall on them? 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from THE WRATH OF THE LAMB : 6. WHO’S WRATH IS SPOKEN ABOUT HERE? 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Thanks Sister, eagerly expecting your response
@@pauloluwamayowa1422 May I ask you this question. Why would an all knowing god, be fearful of humans that plan to build a tower to heaven? see Gen 11:6 Now any 12 year old human know that it is impossible for humans to build a tower to heaven, and your god is too stupid to know this. Thus proving that your god is nothing more than a cultural tribal made up god.
He is correct. Even if you don’t want to hear it or think it’s not “nice” to preach like this. It is God’s Word and Truth. “BUT”GOD ! Is probably the best word in the entire Bible. God gave us by His Grace and Mercy a way to be saved from His Wrathful Justice 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Romans 5:8 - But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. EIther the Bible is right, or Conway is. I'll go with the Bible.
The problem with the statement-“God loves the sinner, but hates the sin”-is that it is misleading. It is not a false statement. And what is misleading about it is the word but, but hates the sin, because but should be and. God loves the sinner and hates the sin. But implies he doesn’t hate the sinner-that is not true. God does hate sinners. Psalm 5:4: “You are not a God who delights in wickedness. Evil may not dwell with you. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes. You hate all evildoers.” Or Psalm 11:5: “The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.” So it is just not true to give the impression that God doesn’t hate sinners by saying he loves the sinner and hates the sin. He does hate sinners. His wrath is real. It is not something he pours out on people he approves of
God revealed to me to be soft and humble and from a place of love when I go out and speak to people wherever I go..He said too many evangelists were too tough or angry or mean and that He doesn't mean for me to be that way to be careful and guard my heart.. so this is like hmmm...to me God bless you all! Glory be to God! I love You Jesus...Amen...
FIVE SOLAS. AMEN. Many Many people do not know the God of the Bible!!!!!! And because they don't so they come against those who preach the truth. This man is speaking the truth!!!
@@meliamehalafihi4821 well if you know the truth Maybe you can answer my question. What happens to babies that die? Are they saved? Because this man believes that babies go to hell, but what do you think?
1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwells in ,(them) and they in God>>>>God bless You >>In Jesus name >> In this i believe there is an afterlife
@@vitoasaro4663 Hell is separation from God, God gives us all every chance to see His love and be with Him, He said that if anyone tries to go to Him, He will "by no means cast them out" If people decide to push Him away their entire lives, they sadly continue to live without Him eternally :( may God help us remain with Him always
Matthew 9:36-38 says Jesus felt compassion for the lost souls of Israel. Guys we need to stop with this idea that we cant tell people "God loves them". Its just ridciulous, the bible is so clear on it. John 3:16 the simplest reading means he loves the world and thats the whole point. He died for all and the free gift of eternal life is open to be recieved by anyone through faith.
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV) How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says. The text says that God hates the sinner. “you hate all evildoers.” (v.5) “the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
@@tamitha20 I never said God doesn't hate sin or the sinner but its also just as biblical to tell people God loves them. Its not some kind of paradox - both are true
@@Peter-JesusIsTheOnlyWay The word faith is a synoym with believe. Galatians 3 shows that. So faith is placing your trust solely in the person and work of Jesus Christ. Lukewarm christians in Revelation 3 were already saved - they were a church
+Alex Musser Faith is also dead without works. Well put, it is about the church. And sometimes the church preach a watered down version of repentance which results in a different doctrine than the one given of God through Jesus. I also read your reply to +tamitha20 which is good and I agree that two things are addressed here #1 God's wrath; and #2 God's grace. If I understand Conway's message right he is pointing out that people don't fear God as they should(Correct me if I'm wrong.)
Jesus said to the adultress woman , go and sin no more, he didn't say go, to hell you sinner, God is love, merciful, and he doesn't want anyone to perish. God does hate sin, but if he hated the sinner, Jesus wouldn't have died for our sins. God is holy and also God is a consuming fire, but he is angry at the sin of this world and it's evil. God can't hate the sinner because that would mean everything he did for us on the cross was in vain. Those who reject Christ and willfully do are in danger of the wrath of God. But those who are born again and are really true children of God will find mercy. Please don't say that God hates sinners you are leading people who want to genuinely know God not want to seek him, because you say God hates them. God is love and we should show love to those who don't believe in God so they can see that we truly are disciples and brothers and sisters of our Father. God is love.
gennyarod329 oh it is far worse than that friend! He has His sword sharpest, bow drawn back and pointed at the chest of the unregenerate. God’s wrath and anger are absolutely justified; that you would see that attribute of God as being unfit for worship shows a lack of understanding of Who God is.
This is talk/sermon is a new perspective to me. It does make sense in the my mind that if you love God you will accept his Son, your heart will be change, your actions will be changed, then God won't hate you or your actions (sin). Outside of that path there is no salvation.
Yes. God doesn't hate those that belongs to him. But he hates those who are keep on sinning and don't want to repent. Cos that's why Jesus came and died so that we died to sin
All i see in this comment section are people who lack a basic biblical understanding of who God actually is. They've a made a god who suits their wants in their mind and they don't know the God of the Word. Jeremiah 9:23-24
God in the flesh of Jesus died for peoples’ sins not because of hate but because of love ! Hate brings punishment love brings forgiveness. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” John 3:16
We are enemies of God in our natural state. The Bible states that God is angry with the wicked every day. He loves us enough to die, but He burns with fierce anger towards our rebellion. People are cast into the Lake of Fire, not just their sin.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:18,36 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=John%203:18,36&version=KJV
I think we should just clear the air. God loves sinners but He hates sinners. What I'm saying is He loves sinners who come to Him and acknowledge their sin and grieve and repent, He stands with open arms and tells them to come to Him. But the self-righteous, judgmental, unrepentant, spiritual proud, religious sinner He hates. It's clear from the Bible and I think any true child of God can understand that. How would you feel if a proud person who says he knows you and loves you spits in your sons face, then tortures him and kills him in a brutal way right in front of you and then try to cover it up and carry on being friendly with you as if nothing happened? I'd be pretty upset and I'm a sinful man. Imagine how God must feel towards all who reject His son. Brother you've God nowhere to hide from an angry God.
I agree with what your saying....but this man needs to let them know God does love their Souls & wants them to repent of their sins. ..only way to God the father is through Jesus Christ , they must Repent & turn from their wicked ways indeed or they will be cast into the lake of fire & brimstone. The way he's teaching God hates you , you can't repent. Yet in 2nd Peter 3:9 KJV God plainly says He wants none to perish, But that ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE. why? Because God Love's their Souls.
& I unsubscribed from you, glad your not my pastor. I even posted this and this is going viral people cannot believe that you're claiming God hates them. WOW UNBELIEVABLE.
Peace in Jesus Christ I unsubscribed as well. God repented over 25 times in the Bible. God has no sin in him he is light in him is no darkness. Salvation is a free gift through Christ. Only Jesus Christ was and is perfect.
I just want to know where does it say in the bible God lover sinners and hate sin. Tim has provide scriptures . We have to remember is not the sin that will throw to hell is the sinners that will get thrown to hell.
Meliame Halafihi they won’t find the verse, but I’m sure they can show you a meme or bumper sticker! That is the state of American Christianity and it is a sad issue. For a pastor to preach The Gospel, unfiltered and undiluted, and have this much backlash from “Christians” (I don’t doubt most of their faith, I guess just their maturity) is exactly what The Bible says would happen.
“Do you think that I like to see wicked people die? says the Sovereign LORD. Of course not! I want them to turn from their wicked ways and live. Ezekiel 18:23 If the Lord hated the sinner he would not want the sinner to live but rather the Lord says he wants them to turn from their wicked ways and live and in fact came to fulfill the law through his blood shed for everyone who would call on his name because of His love for us even while we were his enemies for the Scriptures say "This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins." 1 John 4:9-10
Let's see a similar verse, shall we? Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord GOD, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?’ (Eze 33:11)--this verse is basically a repeat of the one you quoted (and mind you, continuing from that passage, go on to read verses 18:24-25... you can see the passage is addressed to Israel as well in v. 25) You know, I never read "turn, why should you die, O multitudes in ancient China and India" anywhere in the Bible. The fact that these messages were written to Israel, and Israel only easily proves that God is certainly not inclined nor required to give the other nations any similar warning (until the Gospel age) if it so pleases Him.
Psalms 5:4-6, For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
Repentance is their hope. He clears up a false teaching spread around. The Bible is clear on this. You give your son to a mob and have him crucified to make him the object of justice for the mob's sin. Then the mob still doesn't care? How would you feel? God is just to hate the wicked
@@rocketsurgeon1746That isn’t his message, his message is your hated by God. All people are sinners and he says God hates sinners. Even the man after Gods own heart, David, was a sinner. This is a message that God hates you for being lost there isn’t any hope in this man’s false teaching.
@@reedtodd2404 listen to the video again. You are hearing what you want to hear. God hates the wicked and unrepentant. He loves the sinner that repents. God sends the unrepentant to the lake of fire with satan. That is called judgement.
@@rocketsurgeon1746 I haven’t damn said God doesn’t damn people to hell or that he doesn’t love repentance. And you keep saying everywhere that God Hates the wicked people. Psalms says God hates the wicked and psalms is the private notes of Solomon and David not the word of the God through the prophets. Is the New Testament, which says God loves sinners and that we are all sinners, wrong. You are uneducated and don’t know what you are talking about. Also I have rewatched the video and Tim Conway is just making himself look more and more like an idiot.
God is a God of wrath as well a GOD of love. We must rightly divide the Word. This man is speaking the TRUTH Please read the scriptures this man is speaking the truth from for yourselves. I pray the Holy Spirit gives everyone revelation of this TRUTH of God.
Hi sir I'm sorry I was so later finding this video and you. Scriptures Isaiah54 verses 9 and 10. If your father Ehye was ever a power of wrath, he made a promise after the tender shoot of Isaiah 53 put his love down, in 54 that there would be NO anger in the same as no flood. In 55 he stayed this is free for his holy people because of what he said to David. In 56 he stated no foreigner bound to Yahuahh can say he will exclude them from his people. Ie this is for everyone. Isaiah54'9-10. If you want other scripture from one who reads the bible we can state our scriptures, and since scripture cannot be set aside, we can divide the word of truth to find the line that expressed both sides properly.
One who loves would first take responsibility in knowing the truth before speeking it. The world will boast in knowing the truth falsely, and so will sometimes Christians like Tim.
we are people... make all men Liars and God the truth! stop judging and start praying more! we must build each other up and not break down! as lomg as we keep our eyes on christ!
I have seen so many people here quote JOHN 3:16. That's great. But make sure you read the rest of the verseS after verse 16. So you can fully understand the context. Yes Jesus died for our sins. And because He died now we are to die to sin also. And if we continue to keep on sinning and knowing Jesus had done the work on the cross. Then God is not with you. Don't think that Jesus died and think that we can continue to sin because he died for our sins. You deceive yourself.
We seem to forget that God knows past, present, and future, God knows who is chosen and who is not. God hates the wicked and loves the righteous, though He hates the self righteous, those who are like the pharisees. Alot of people seem to overlook the story of Jacob and Esau. Before the two were born God stated, "Jacob I love Esau I hate." God before time has made an inheritance for His elect. When you make an inheritance, no one can be added to or taken away from that inheritance. Predestination is proven multiple times throughout scripture. It is not our will to love God but it is God's will. You see, in John 1 12-14 it states that it's not the will of man, but the will of God we are His. It's by the grace and the love of God people are chosen not our own. A man can say "I love Jesus I love God." It doesn't mean God or Jesus loves them back. In 1st John it states the signs if you're saved or not, ask yourself "Do I have the fruits of the Spirit?" Ask "Do I truly love God or do I just say I do?" Ask "Would I truly give my life for God like Jesus did for us?" Ask "Am I truly being sanctified away from my old nature?" Ask "Am I battling through spiritual warfare?" Why did I say ask yourself if you're struggling through spiritual warfare? The enemy doesn't tempt those who are unsaved, he doesn't need to, why hunt something that's already dead? The enemy enjoys tempting Christians. The only time I think the enemy attacks those who are unelected would be possession. By the way, christians cannot be possessed because christians are filled with the Holy Spirit. How to tell you're being sanctified is, you are losing your old desires over time. When you have the Holy Spirit within you, your old self is dead, your old self has been crucified with your old desires. Now you're made new, more Christ Like Roman's 6 dead to sin alive in God. Do you have the fruits: Peace, Joy, Love, Patience, Self Control, etc? Would you truly give up everything for God even your life?
Thomas Cucuzza...the good news is simply believing... Calvinism causes anxiety because it puts the focus on oneself to stay faithful instead of the Lord.
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV) How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says. The text says that God hates the sinner. “you hate all evildoers.” (v.5) “the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
Many more scriptures plainly go against Tim. To personify God's justice as "hate" makes sense in context. To personify God's justice as "mocking" makes sense in context. Especially since the pld testament did not ser Jesus, a main focus on the old testament was justice. But Tim taking is out of context to try to push his own agenda for shock value. Thats not right.
@joashsmusic Christ never contradicts himself. If your interpretation of the Bible contradicts Christ teachings, you are wrong and need to reinterpret any said passage.
In that sense, how do you cope for instance with Eph. 2,1-5? "1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience- 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ-by grace you have been saved" Or Romans 5,8: "but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Similarily Luke 15,11-32, verse 24: "For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found." Furthermore, as Christians, we still sin. Simul iustus et peccator. How does that fit into the idea of God hating the sinner? In my understanding this would lead to righousness by works. You would be responsible to stop sinning, so God could love you again. Obviously this contradicts the whole gospel, so what am I missing? - It's right, God has every right to hate the sinner and we as sinners deserve to be hated by him. But isn't exactly that the gospel, that Jesus died for our sins, because God actually does love us?
God is a JUST GOD! Yes God is Love! The Bible is highly misinterpreted! God didn't send JESUS to abolish his LAW. He came to uphold it! If ye be dead to sins, how can you live anymore in sin. Quoting the bible in attempt to JUSTIFY one's Sin is HYPOCRISY and WICKEDNESS
By the long suffering of God we weren't all killed the moment we first sinned. God is Holy, mankind is wicked. We deserve nothing but eternal justice, but God delights in giving grace to the humble.
@Capt. E. Wells What do you think you deserve, Heaven? Only perfect people deserve Heaven. But undeserving sinners can be granted what they don't deserve through the mercy & grace of God. God will actively resist you until you call upon Him in repentance because He only gives grace to the humble.
This is a weird concept for me god creates sin then creates man to sin then tells man he hates them and the sin and is unworthy so he holds his creations accountable for his actions ?
Yes God hates the sin but He loves the sinner and thats why He gave His one and only son,to die on the cross and rose from the dead so that through Christ we may have life and we are forgiven,and yes God is just but He is mercifull.and also it is true that we dont deserve His love but still He gave Himself up for us all "sinners" and Gods wrath will remain to those who remain wicked and unrepentant stoned heart and do not accept Jesus
@@sonofliberty02 don't be a deceiver with questions like that. Prov 6:16 is for people like you. God hates lairs, deceivers and those that sow discord among the brethren.
If God hates the sinner, he would never have sent his son. I can get stuck on a pasage of scripture and especially in the Old Testament. I have completely took out Our Savior. Judgment day will be very difficult for those who do not have Christ as their defense attorney.
God sent His son so that He can love us. If it wasn't for Jesus, God would hate everyone. think about it. It is only because of what Jesus did on the cross that allows God to be able to love us.
Praise God that He is a God of justice, that he hates sinners. Praise Almighty and wise and loving God for his judgement. People who reject this message do NOT know God at all. 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Christians became hippies after the 60's. Look at the previous 2 thousand years. Christians were crushing it through war and conquest. Jesus said to trade in your coat for a sword.
Right, the Lord had to give His Son to satisfy His divine wrath that was justly due towards sinful man. The reason God so LOVED, is because of man's sin and God's just anger towards the sinner. In order for God to be just and justify sinners He had to satisfy His wrath (Romans 3) and that is why Christ died. Thanks be to God!
Psalm 5:5-6 nkjv 5 The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; You HATE all workers of iniquity. 6 You shall DESTROY those who speak falsehood; The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.
God sacrificed his precious son to save a sinner like me . Read the Bible. Discern the truth . Pray so that you could distinguish the word of God and false preaching. Somebody tell this man - the name above all names - Jesus.
You’re right. God hated His son for that moment. He would be just to hate people, he’s God and he could intentionally hate us and it would be in his parameters.
I loosen myself of all God hates, loosening myself of every unequal yoke and common share with those God hates, in accordance with proverbs 6, psalm 7:11, 2 corinthians 6:14-15 and this whole message, in the name andblood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah!
@@400BadR3quest So don't tell me you love your enemy and you don't love the sin but the sin and the sinner. As Muslim we love jesus and Mohammed peace be upon them. That's the teaching of Islam. Why do you hate the prophet Mohammed peace be upon him?
@@seekthetruth762 I love my enemies so I don't agree with the video. God loves the sinner but hates the sin. I don't know about mohammed cause he's not in the christian beliefs, only Jesus
The Bible says we should hate the sin but love the sinner, yes scripture says people are enemies of God while unsaved but it also say for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. God says he has no pleasure in the death of anyone, so to say God hates the sinner also would only drive people away from God. People need to understand that God is God and should be feared , for he has the power to destroy both body and soul in hell, be he is very willing to help and save anyone who comes to him, we need to remember the devil is the bad guy, God is the good guy in all of this, but he has rules and has made a way for people to come to him, it is the individuals hatred of God that leads them to destruction , not Gods hatred of anyone.
He judges them on earth and in he'll to no end, not hates them emotionally. He is not a pety God changed up by a creature. In destroying the sinner he shows his justice, not his hate.
What are you talking about? God is long suffering not willing that ANY should perish. I am glad I grew up knowing the truth and not listening to such foolishness. He tells us to love our enemies yet he hates us???? NO!!! False teaching!!!
I hear how you feel, but what he says is true. Remember God resists the proud and are close to the humble. Jesus said the Pharisees were the children of Satan, that is all of us who have not been saved by Jesus's Grace. John 6 shows how followers left Jesus due to His hard teachings, the desciples asked Him then "How can anyone accept it?" John 6:60 and "How can anyone be saved" Matthew 19:25
Psalm 5:5-6 nkjv 5 The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; You HATE all workers of iniquity. 6 You shall DESTROY those who speak falsehood; The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.
?? Maybe.... "God hate sinners"... Is not the way we understand " hate"....this is scary!!??.....I just cannot rap my head around Christ hating people the way we hate!!?? We in the last hour, I for one, am veryyyy weary of just excepting a teaching, even if you giving a scripture verse to it, because scripture gets taken out of context over and over.... Yet, I have always liked and trusted Tim...but this one?....I will have to come before the Lord and slow the Holy Spirit to show me.....
God’s ‘hate’ is just and righteous. Its an outcome of His justice and holiness. It’s not like human ‘hate’ which is sullied with emotions and coupled with sinfulness. Both should never be compared. Unlike God, man can never love and hate at the same time. God is a just Judge and loving Father at the same time.
GOD can be provoked to hate.... But you can sniff error and heresy in this teaching... Be very careful. Notice, I said God can be provoked to Hate, because that is in the Bible... BUT it is very different to assert that he hates all sinners in the same way.... Very very different.... Look at the Ministry of Jesus towards sinners, do you suppose that was born out of a motivation of hatred? No! Hatred is in the Bible, but they pick the fewer verses it is. Go look up hatred in the Bible, then go look up love.... There is a monumental difference between the two. So Hatred should be put in its right place, not here how there using it
Watching Tim Conway gradually led to anxiety and shame. The good news is that Christ died for all our sins and we will not be condemned even if we sin!
You guys are acting like God hates on people for no reason. God hates sinners AND God loves sinners....at the same time. He hates them for what they are. He loves them because it’s what His character is, it’s in His NATURE to love, He IS love, and He hates what is evil and cannot stand it. God hates sinners yet still gives them time to repent of their wickedness.
Now if this is the gospel truth, I will accept it. Seems biblical to me. But my question is, how do we preach this truth in a way that causes godly sorrow, not wordly sorrow? How do we bring the fragrance of Christ, not the law when we preach this?
The world understands hate. What they lack seeing in Christians is Gods Grace. If I talk to Christians today about Sodom, most would say they are in hell. From Tim's message ... I would hear him say the same thing. But that is NOT what Jesus said. I won't share the truth when some people in this group do not understand the price paid on Calvary because Jesus loves us so much. If you do want to know what Jesus said about Sodom, message me. May Gods Grace through His Son grow in you always. Truly Mercy triumphs over condemnation and judgment. This is what the world cries out for when all else fails. Gods Grace and Mercy.
calvinist CANNOT preach the GOSPEL of grace because they say you have to repent "OF YOUR SINS" and not repent of UNBELIE, I'll prove that yhe sin of the world is UNBELIEF, Jesus said in John 6 that when the holy spirit comes he will Reprove the world of SIN not SINS, what is the SIN, "OF SIN BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE NOT ON ME", the sin issue was paid at the cross so that no one has an excuse not to believe, the issue now is UNBELIEF, Jesus said to the pharasees you will die in yoir sins if you believe not that i am he ,you will die in your SINS, John the baptist said BEHOLD THE LAMB OF GOD WHICH TAKETH AWAY THE "SIN" NOT SINS OF THE WORLD. calvinism is a dreadful and deadly disease that has influenced many to work for SALVATION. be blessed and believe that Jesus died for the whole WORLD and having only a mustard seed of FAITH you can can be saved by his grace through FAITH in CHRIST, the gospel is to everyone and anyone, its free will.
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV) How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says. The text says that God hates the sinner. “you hate all evildoers.” (v.5) “the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
@@jonathanwilliams3742 hmmmm....Mr. Williams, Jesus said, "I came not to call the righteous, but the sinners to repentance" (Luke 5:32, KJV) my question to you is, Do you need jesus' sacrifice?...for not all are sinners, but there are a select few who are faithful to the CREATOR. Where do you stand ...among the faithful ...or the unfaithful? If you are indeed among the unfaithful...and cling to the human sacrifice of Jesus... You had better be certain that the GOD of Israel will accept the sacrifice.....my guess...In all kindness, you don't know HIM. www.meekasix.com/post/forgiveness-or-injustice
@@themoroccanangel It was his sacrifice that paid for the sins of the world, which included mine.... I trust alone in his work... So yeah I know him........ You on the other hand may not, if you have placed your trust in anything else.
8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. -Romans 5:8 God is a God of wrath. But, He is also a God of love. To understand how He can be both, look at the Cross. There He poured out His wrath, His hate for sinners, onto Christ. Christ absorbed the punishment we, as sinners, deserve, because He loves us. This should make sense to the redeemed because they realize that their sin is offensive to God (Psalm 51). For the non believer, this should stand out as the only truly kind act anyone has ever done and should drive them to repent and trust in Jesus Christ as Savior and Redeemer.
His word says He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but He does get pleasure through His Son receiving a bride from His Father and to be known and worshiped by those who were once against Him but God has made their hearts new to love God and His ways. Basically, yes God hates sin and sinners as they are one and the same, yet God would rather send His Son to take the punishment everyone deserves for the sin they committed, and they have nothing to offer that can even come close to paying that debt to satisfy the wrath of God. Only Jesus could pay the debt, God can't just ignore it because He is just, and a just judge doesn't let a criminal go free after committing their crimes and found guilty. Once has paid the debt for our sins, then we can be made right with God if by grace through faith in Christ we would be saved, which comes from hearing, understanding and believing the Gospel correctly. Then we would be made new creatures that God doesn't hate and rather loves for He would make us like new creatures, with new desires, new affections, making them more like Christ, those people will drastically be different from who they were when they were just a lost sinner. God hates us in the beginning, but that's not the way He wants it to be, He would rather save us and love us. He hates us because in sin, we're worthy of being hated, but when Christ has paid the debt for our sin, and God has made us like Christ and washed our sins away and remembers them no more, then we are made worthy to love because of Christ and what He has done for us, to us and through us for His Father's will.
@@VYMQGSOH sinners and sin are not the same thing. Adam and Eve were pure at one point so therefore humans are not sin unless your calling god a sinner for creating the sin called humanity. what your saying is that god is a sinner. blasphemers like you need to be corrected. if humans were sin that means the cross was in vain and because we are sin we cannot change and repent. even though god told us to.. your playing with fire keep going and you will get burned. note that I didn't say we aren't sinful. we are sinful but are aren't sin otherwise god had sinned. god made something good and the devil turned it corrupted. it repented the lord that he had made man on the earth. but does that mean god sinned? NO!!!!!. it means god felt bad for his creations and he wanted to spare us by putting us out of our misery. bt god had plans for Noah and his family. so they ended up being saved.
@@VYMQGSOH made worthy to love? But God demonstrates is own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8 He loved us before we were made right. His love isn't a result of a cross, the cross is a result of His love
Yup - God HATES sin. So if you STILL sin - He HATES you. He WARNED you. John 8: 34 "Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin *IS THE SERVANT OF SIN."*
Our human definition of hate should not be what is spoken of here. Maybe more clarity is needed on this one. I agree, but in the sense that because of the righteousness and holiness of God mankind will never measure up. His holy vengeance must be exacted upon us because of who He is. Our redemption from this vengeance (which is also holy and not comparable to human vengeance) is by grace through faith in the washing redemption of Christ’s blood. This is the only way we will be presented faultless before the throne. Without it, we’re guilty and worthy of damnation. Gotta love the truth of God’s Word. It will 100% set you free.
When I confront a sinner, I share Gods love to them as a means of watering and planting. I really do not threaten them that they are going to he'll. Everyone I have talked to really has had someone done that in their past. I do explain the differences between the devil and Jesus in John 10:10 very clearly. I like what Paul spoke of in scripture. Should I come to you with a whip or a kind and gentle spirit. Remember, we are to be wise as serpants but harmless as doves. For years I did not know how much Jesus loves me. I should have been dead a long time ago. But I am alive today to share the love of Christ and the message of Christ, knowing I am accountable to God for everything. Truly ... Mercy Triumphs over Judgment. May I be that example of Christ in everything I do as Jesus said twice in Matthew ... I desire mercy and not sacrifice.
If God hates sinners, then St John’s words apply: “20If anyone says, “I love God,” but hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. 21And we have this commandment from Him: Whoever loves God must love his brother as well.” (1 John 4.20-21) So if God claims to love anyone, but hates sinners, “He is a liar”. God cannot be allowed a lower moral standard than He requires of of His disciples. Since He requires Christians to love their enemies, He has no right to be allowed not to love His enemies. If men are to do what God refuses to do or cannit do, men are acting more righteously and mercifully than God, and put the God they worship to shame. For such a god is inferior to them. To say that God behaves in a way which Is the moral opposite of what He requires of His disciples, is to say that God has a split personality, or is a hypocrite. If God does not love sinners - how are His disciples supposed to love those who sin against them ? How can we obey God’s command, if God does not set us an example by doing what He tells us to do ? But in Christ, that is exactly what God does: He “shows us how it’s done”. To say that God hates sinners, is not true. The Death of Christ, for sinners, while they were still sinners, proves it to be not true. Old Testament passages cannot be allowed to trump the Teaching of Christ, for the Teaching of Christ is the plumbline by which all other teaching in the Bible is to be measured. The God revealed in Jesus Christ is very different from the God Who is said to hate His enemies. God’s fullest revelation is *not* a book or body of books, but Jesus of Nazareth, the man Who is God Himself. “The letter kills - it is the Spirit Who gives life”. To say that people are “hate-worthy”, misses the point of God’s grace and love. The point is, that God loves sinners *because they are unworthy of God’s love* . All of us can come to God only as the sinners all of us are. That God loves us sinners, is not in any way caused by any pre-existing loveableness in us. It is the grace of God, and nothing else, that confers value on us, by loving us. Grace is never, and can never be, a reward for being good. It is a medicine for the sick & the terminally ill, to give them the health they do not have, greatly need, and can find only in God. A God Who hated sinners. would not give this Health, which is Christ, to them. God’s grace *does not find sinners* love-worthy, but *makes them* love-worthy, by loving them when they were unlovable & loveless. Any light and love in them, comes from the Divine Word Who “enlightens every man that comes into the world”. Only sinners can be forgiven - the righteous have no need of forgiveness; they have no need of a physician. So in the Gospel, Christ does not associate with the righteous Pharisees & Scribes; He prefers the company of sinners, and seeks them out. He is made sin for us. Far more fully than St Paul, He is the Chief of sinners. On the Cross, in accordance with the Torah (Deuteronomy 21.21-23), Christ becomes accursed, a curse for us; He shares fully in the alienation of sinners from God. That God in Christ fully identifies Himself with sinners, and on the Cross shares in their alienation from God, and is raised from the death that is the fruit of that alienation, is central to faith in Christ.
In that case, God is so unlike us, that God’s “notion” of good may be what we call evil, and contrariwise. What we call murder may be pleasing to God, and what we reject as deceit may be what God calls truth. But if that so, how can we tell God from the devil ? If God is not far better than man in every way, God is not worthy of worship. This God of hate is not the God of the NT.
How are people able to love sinners and doesn't care about their sin friends family know you aren't perfect and they know your flaws are you more holier than God? Are you more loving?
There is no verse in the Bible with the words ‘God hates sinners’. If God hates all sinners then surely He hates all mankind for all are sinners and are sinning; believers in Jesus and non-believers. See Rom 3:7&10&21; 1 John 1:8&10; 1 Kings 8:46; Ecc 7:20; 1 Cor 8:12; 1 Tim 5:20; 1 John 2:1; Gal 2:15&17; Jas 4:8; Amos 9:10; Num 32:14. For those people who God hates, see Ps 5:5; Ps 11:5; Prov 6:16-18. These verses do not make a distiction between believers and non-believers. Note Ps 5 - ALL workers. Does that also mean that God hates all people? We must not confuse wrath with hate. God’s wrath are on all those who do not believe in Jesus - John 3:36 - the children of disobedience - Ef 2:5; Rom 1:18. The Bible do have verses that shows that God loves all sinners: John 3:16; Rom 5:9; Ef 2:4&5.
@@GM-uy3cm Are the any Bible verses to support this statement? John 3:16 says He loved the world and gave his Son. Thus He loved before He gave His Son for sinners. Ef 2:4&5 says He loved us when we were still dead. Rom 5:8 says he proved His love by dying for us when we were yet sinners.
@Mr. R Absolutely true. And so also is His mercy and love for us: Eph 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us,
@@johannieman4697 The problem is ...you are only considering the 2nd Testament to define the nature of the GOD of Israel...this is a problem, because you cannot truly understand the GOD of Israel from reading the 2nd Testament...you must consider the 1st Testament. Notice that all of the "love of sinner" concepts are only in the 2nd Testament.
There are verses that state that God hates sinners. In Psalm 5.5 , the scripture states that God hates all workers of iniquity. And I quote, Psalm 5.5 , "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity." I would suggest doing an online search of every time the word "hate" is mentioned in the KJV Bible.
@@spiritualisrael007 You quoted Ps 5:5 correctly. That is my whole point; when one says the the Bible says then quote the Bible and not give one's understanding. This verse does not say 'hate sinners' but 'ALL workers of iniquity'. 'ALL' would then include anyone, born again or not, that does acts of iniquity. You can search the Bible for a verse with the words 'God, hate, sinners' and will not find one.
5 And I heard the angel in charge of the waters say, "Just are you, O Holy One, who is and who was, for you brought these judgments. 6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and you have given them blood to drink. It is what they deserve!" 7 And I heard the altar saying, "Yes, Lord God the Almighty, true and just are your judgments!" 8 The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and it was allowed to scorch people with fire. 9 They were scorched by the fierce heat, and they cursed the name of God who had power over these plagues. They did not repent and give him glory. (Revelation 16:5, ESV)
I'd prefer a non biblical message that says i can party all week and drag my butt into church just long enough to get a good nap and rest up for another week. Hoping to learn nothing about my sin and how I need salvation and repentance :)
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:18,36 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=John%203:18,36&version=KJV
This is incorrect: Romans 5:8 "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (NIV). While we were sinners God demonstrated his own love for us. WHILE WE WERE SINNERS. In other words, God loved us while we were in rebellion to him. How else can you interpret what Paul is saying here?
Romans 5:8 is true. Yet Psalm 5:5 is also true: "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity." The God that loves people is the same God that hates people. It is possible for God to love and hate, perhaps at the same time. Both are true, because the Bible says so.
Romans 1:32 ESVThough they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
We all have heard that God loves The sinner, but hates The sin. But God would have to hate the person sinning , sin would not exist without a person who sins. He destroy The person in His judgment, not just The sin .
Listen, there is truth in here, but lies also. His analogy of the flood, using it to. Prove God hates sinners, is Operating from another manor of spirit... Notice, after the flood God was grieved. Why would he be grieved? because he loves mankind, but they were wicked. God didn't make a mistake we know this. GOD can exercise judgment and still be grieved because he is love. A human judge will do the same, he make take pity on the accused but Justice calls for punishment. The. Judge can be loving and still send people to electric chair. Don't define God by his punishments tim. So Tim is taking this out of context, this analogy shouldn't be used to prove hatred, but rather how God can be loving and still punish. God was angry because he is JUST, not because he is hate. His initial dealing with these people was to love them, to cherish them, God's nature is to love and give. But they became wicked and Gods anger grew. And yes God can be provoked to Hate. But judgment and hatred are results of sin, but his nature is Love
This is false, or is worded incorrectly we are all sinners, no man is righteous, and if god hates all sinners he would hate all of us, I don't think God hates us if he sent his son! if god really hates us he wouldn't have sent his son
If god loved us, he wouldn’t care whether we love him or not, he would do the things for the sake of making us happy as possible but no, god is so full of himself, he wants us to serve him even though he could just do it himself! Our god is so cursed!
@@KevinKurzsartdisplay I don’t know who you are associating along side you by saying our god, I know you aren’t speaking of Christ Jesus, God of Israel. You don’t understand, but proclaim boldly with your chest false things regarding God
4 For you are not a God who delights in wickedness; evil may not dwell with you. 5 The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. 6 You destroy those who speak lies; the LORD abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:4, ESV)
Hello, I’ve been going through a hard seasons where I fell into deep sins as well as a lot of spiritual attacks from the enemy. At times it was hard to tell if it was Gods anger on me or the devil hurting me. It has been going on for some time. When I first got a better understanding of God, I heard different ways of describing Him but I always kept that any revelation of God Jesus Christ is in the word. I have read the word and wanted to really seek and understand who He is and who Jesus is and what He did. I went through seasons of also questioning feeling if I was truly saved. I knew it is by faith but I was still so confused and fell into work’s ignorantly. To this day, I am still a bit confused as to if I truly received Christ or if I’m deceived. I feel hopeless like I was denied salvation when I asked Jesus in prayer to help me understand His word. It’s hard to have faith when I’m not sure who I’m believing because I feel as a result of being ignorant and even not commune with believers in a church for a while to grow spiritually, I was a target for the enemy to come with deceptions and lies that really harmed me. I became so discouraged I just stopped praying, reading the Bible and I just gave up to a degree in seeking Jesus. I feel this may be that I simply don’t understand the Gospel and that I was deceived to think I believed. I still don’t understand the true God. Is He mad at me? Does He hate me? Does He not want to save me. I even went as far as to curse at Him saying it was His fault because I was just so mad and I know that was wrong to have done all that. I feel so tired and I still haven’t been able to experience any freedom and what is so good about the good news. Perhaps I went through so much sorrow from feeling deeply hated by even Jesus Christ that that I depressed my spirit heavily...
Definitely a good sign if you care about your relationship with God. Being around others that love God and His Word is important. Get everything that is bad out of your house(bad movies, music,etc). Sit down and read the Bible each morning starting with the book of John. God has saved sinners far worse than you. He loves to save to lost. We all are. Repent and move forward with God's promise :)
We don’t know the depths of God’s love. He is love! John 3:16 For God so loved the world. All that God has provided is borne out of love. He makes the rain and sun to fall and shine on all, not only believers. The question is, do we acknowledge, thank, worship and ultimately love Him?! John 14:15 clearly says, if we love Him we’ll keep His commandments and He’ll love us back. So, there’s a general love for everyone, but a specific love for true believers.
But yeah John three chapter chapter 3 verse 16 is the most popular person in the Bible, but 20 versus later, the most neglected Verse in the Bible. Read John 3:36 before John 3:16. He that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:36 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=John%203:36&version=KJV
To love something you have to hate it's opposite. What's hard to understand? I can't love children and love what hurts them. I have to hate what hurts them. Logic 101
God loves everyone even sinners but hates the sin LaLa don't listen to false teachings telling you otherwise. He loved the world so much he sent his only begotten son for it. He sustains all things in existence and could not sustain in existence what he hates. He cannot hate what he created or he would not have created it. He did not create sin he created humans. He loves sinners as we are taught to do. If he didn't love sinners but we were told to that would make God a hypocrige which he is not. We are to be examples of God's forgiveness and love. The idea God hates sinners is a heresy. God bless
@@Ivan-bi6rb Roman 5 : 8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. John 4:10 - Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins. ( I.e. while we were still sinners ) Luke 6 : 31 - 38 'And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them. “If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil The idea that God only died for the elect is a Calvinist invention and hideous to true church teaching. God doesn't send anyone to hell my friend. People choose to go there of their own free choosing against his will. It is impossible for God to hate his own creation for nothing is evil in and of its own nature but obviously sin is evil but sin is merely a privation of some good a thing ought to have. God is opposed to sin because sin is a contamination or privation if you will of what we are supposed to have it is not a created thing unlike us. So you are not sin you are a human tainted by sin whom he loves and wants to set free from that sin.
The sinner is wicked and it’s heart devises wicked plans . The messiah came for the Sinners and sick right . So those who abide in Christ and His word in Him become righteous in their life . We are ought to live righteously. So if we know Christ are we still sick and a sinner ? No we are healed and made a new creation in Him. Scripture is clear that those who sin will not inherit Eternal Life and sinners do wicked things that are an abomination to Him so how could he could He love people who do abominable things against Him . Does God hate anyone? The answer is yes. Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity." Psalm 11:5, "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates." Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them." Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil, 19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers." Hosea 9:15, "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels." The sobering fact is that God is so holy and righteous that He hates the sinner (Psalm 5:5; Lev. 20:23; Prov. 6:16-19; Hos. 9:15). Some say that we should say that God only hates the sin but loves the sinner. But, the above scriptures speak contrary to that. But it is also true that He is love (1 John 4:8). It is better to accept the love of God found in Jesus than to reject it and suffer His wrath. This is Sound Doctrine!
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV) How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says. The text says that God hates the sinner. “you hate all evildoers.” (v.5) “the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
No wonder your messed up....come out of that satanic book. God loves their souls hates their sins. God wants none to perish. He sent His only begotten Son Jesus who was sacrificed for their sins, sickness, etc...cause God Love's all & wants none to perish. Yes they must Repent & turn to God Almighty or yes they will face God's Wrath.
Peace in Jesus Christ you telling me that i am messed up is not a Christian thing to do. Can you imagine Jesus telling people that they are messed up? NO. some of the fruits of the spirit is patience and gentleness. you telling me that your blood is boiling is something demonic. we are all just trying to learn about God. it doesn't seem like you are at peace if your blood is boiling. be patient and let's learn from each other as opposed to getting mad which is not Christian like at all. stop allowing Satan to influence your communication with your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. calm down.
Amen Holy Holy Holy tim conway ur a hell Fire🔥 preacher ty for not sugar coating not many will enter the kingdom of God im Arch Angel Heb 13:1-2 Ps 91:11 Ps 103:20
While we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Greater love has no man than this that he lay down his life for his friends. I get your point but the just judgement of God is often long delayed as he waits for obedience. To say that He hates the sinner when he gave Himself in love for sinners is not a good exposition of what the Bible actually says
Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Only question I have is, God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son, whosoever believe in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life, so did he die for us because he loved us or hate us ? 🤔....Im a bit confused...
TELL ME WHY!! And it is said while we were YET SINNERS, he died for us!! Like.... What's going on!!... And so parents love their kids and hate what they DO, yet when we sin, God HATES us? I feel like people don't understand what they are saying when they say God hates sinners.
@@rubenthompson5900 of our sin God's wrath towards our sin. But Jesus also died because God loved us very much. God would be just in destroying, but He loves us. Jesus died so God can be both Just and the Justifier of the wicked
@@nyambsdeborah8954 God is holy, righteous, just, perfect and right. All humans are the exact opposite of those things. Because of that, we all deserve to be sent to hell forever, and we all will be sent to hell by default
Jesus taught us to love our enemies. Jesus walked among sinners all the time. Jesus loved them, and forgave their sins. Jesus is THE son of God. Saying that God hates sinners is a blasphemy.
The scriptures say that God hates a false witness, so clearly God hates that sinner, so it cannot be blasphemy to say that God hates sinners unless scripture itself is blasphemy. Jesus said scripture cannot be broken, so God does hate at least some sinners. Instead, we should ask: Is it possible for God to justifiably hate someone and yet simultaneously love them? Evidently yes! God hates AND loves sinners. How deep is the love of God that can press through His own hatred: For while we were yet sinners, hated in God's holy eyes, Christ died for us to cover over the sin that made us hated in the eyes of God. The height and width and depth and breadth of the love of God cannot be fully grasped until we recognize the hatred of God. "Love must be sincere: Hate what is evil. Cling to what is good." Hatred is a necessary component of sincere love: God exhibits this tension perfectly. The rest of us have much to learn.
@@CRAFTE.D Because true love is not the absence of hate, but the right use of it. Someone who loves children would, in all honesty, hate evil people who molest or kill children. God defines love; we don't. The same Bible that says "God is love" (1 John 4:8) also says that God hates people who love violence (Psalm 11.5), that God hates people who sacrifice children to Moloch (Lev 20:23), and that God hates people who destroy the innocent by bearing false witness against them (Prov 6:19). It's really not that difficult if you realize that God can hate violent abusers and yet simultaneously love the world enough to provide for sinners to be atoned (John 3:16). It's the same way that you might have a theoretical love for child abusers (a love that desires them to be transformed) while also having an effectual hatred of them (a "hatred" that desires justice to render them incapable of harming children again). For a truly loving person, justified hatred is not incompatible with genuine love.
A god who hates his “enemies” would be far inferior to all Christians, who are commanded to love theirs. He sounds more like the Muslim god, “the best of deceivers”, practicing taqiyya in order to cheat Christians into thinking he loves them. This nightmare god is not the god described here: “6For while we were yet weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7For one will hardly die for a righteous man. Yet perhaps for a righteous person someone would even dare to die. 8 *But God commends his own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us* . 9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we will be saved from God's wrath through him. 10For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we will be saved by his life. 11Not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.” www.biblehub.com/web/romans/5.htm
I'm a rational thinking Christian here. I know for a fact that God himself does not hate, he loves. He teaches, he watches, he doesn't hate; but he doesn't want you to sin, either. If you find yourself sinning for whatever reason or possible mistake, it is totally fine to ask Jesus for forgiveness. If I sin, I pray and ask for forgiveness. I don't know why other fellow Christians make a big deal out of it, humans make mistakes and God knows that. But don't sin, I try to keep that in mind. Asking for forgiveness also makes me feel better as a person in general. And I will always say this, love the sinner, not the sin! Also, I can guarantee you that you aren't going to hell, none of us are. :)
@@von111 I am. Don't you know that the Church of Christ teaches that salvation is conditional upon baptism? I was never saved according to their doctrine. I have been waiting for death for the last 20 years in deep depression.
This does not sound like the god I know. We did not live in those times. And I feel as if we are living in the New Testament.. however I was taught that God does not hate and we shall also not hate.
Hello, you’re right. God does not hate anyone in the sense of the opposite of love. Hate was used in scriptures to show your preference of something over another thing. In Scripture, it signifies to love less. “If any man come to me, and hate not father and mother, “c. Luke 14. “He that spareth the rod, hateth his son.” Prov. 13. It is not meant to be taken at face value which this guy is doing.
according to the bible what world is he talking about Isaiah 45/17 but Israel shall be saved by the most high with an everlasting salvation ye shall not be ashamed or disgraced world without ends that's the world unless he name some other world
Okay, we need to get some balance here. Yes, the Bible talks about the hatred of God and the wrath of God and, yes, we need to fear Him. But we need to balance this out with the truth of God's undeserved love. Consider the following: Romans 5:8 "God shows His LOVE for us in that, WHILE WE WERE STILL SINNERS, Christ died for us" Ephesians 2:4-5 (after Paul has declared all mankind obejects of wrath): "But God, being rich in mercy, BECAUSE OF THE GREAT LOVE WITH WHICH HE LOVED US, EVEN WHEN WE WERE DEAD IN TRESPASSES, made us alive together with Christ" 1 John 4:10 "In this is love, NOT THAT WE HAVE LOVED GOD BUT THAT HE LOVED US and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins" If God does not love the sinner then these verses are a lie and we are without hope. This does not minimise the hatred of God against sin, not reality of judgement or hellfire but sometimes, in my view, reformed preachers (of whom I am one) can neglect the balance that the Bible itself gives.
I have NO GOOD , APART FROM CHRIST, from The HOLY spirit of God, from father God, no good, no good in me-only good within me is the Simple knowledge I have of Christ and he was my sacrifice and changed my life saved my life and I am nothing but a vile filthy sinner saved by the mighty perfect grace of GOD and his redemptive plan to bring a people to himself my heart now finds ultimate rest and peace in GOD. For Christ came down to raise me up, he died so I could live now eternity I shall forever praise your name and worship your GLORY
It does not make any sense. Give me just 1 human being without sin (except Jesus). Just one ! If God hates sinners, He hates to whole humanity. God permits calamities in our life with the purpose to test us. Remember Jobs, when Satan asked God to destroy him. All evil things are permitted by God to test us.
God permits sins to test us? "Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God cannot be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one. " (James 1:13)
@@fikir-fikir1938 If you read the book of Job you will see that all temptations suffered by Job were permitted by God. In the first scenario Satan asked to God to destroy all material things in job´s life (family, properties...) (Job 1:6-12) and God permitted Satan to do that; then in the second scenario Satan asked God again to attack Job and God said, ok you can destroy his health but keep him alive (Job 2:1-6). In both situations Satan asked God to attack and God gave to him permission to do that. James is not lying when he said God "himself tempts no one", however Satan is day and night accusing humans and receiving God´s permission to tempt us. (revelation 12:10)
@@lucasmelo-zq4hs About Job, the temptations were permitted by God, not because God wanted to test Job. It was satan who asked permission to test Job. For satan said that Job will abandon God if he was to receive calamities (Job 1:9-10; 2:4-5). And God permitted satan to test Job to prove a point, that is, Job will persevere in his faith no matter what. And, if we read the Book of Job carefully, what God permitted were not sins, but calamities. But you said "God permits *sins* in our life with the purpose to test us." So, no, sins are not permitted for God to test us, an it's stated clearly in James 1:13.
@@fikir-fikir1938 You are correct. I expressed myself incorrectly. God permits calamities in our life, not sins. I also corrected the sentence above. I expressed myself in a wrong way. I agree with you. It is clear in the Bible that God hates sin. We can see that in Noah, Sodom, Gomorrah ... I really would like to understand why God permits to have Satan in his presence, attacking us day and night. What is your opinion about this "close" relationship between two enemies (God and Satan)? What do you think is God´s purpose with this relationship?
@@lucasmelo-zq4hs Everything God does, is for His glory. As we read the Book of Job, in the end, Job's suffering glorifies God. How? It proves God words that Job will persevere. So, to answer your question, God permits satan to attack us because at the end, He will be glorified.
Why did god die for sinners? Because he loves them. If we find ourselves reading out of the Old Testament without understanding the New Testament we will not understand the Bible and sadly this guys is confused.
@@thepanda1044 It's a lie stop believing this ⬇️ Rom. 8 Verses 38 to 39 [38] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [39] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@@justinetiberio8137 I'm aware of what the Bible says so no need to preach it to me. I don't believe in it. It's another book of mythology. And I have no reason to believe in it. And you'll never convince me to believe in it. So don't try to.
If you feel discouraged and defeated by this video, please read on... A person dear to me who watched this, now believes he is eternally doomed to hell with no way out. Earnestly seeking God, he heard this and is now left without hope. Such tragedy when the nature and the ways of God is distorted. The enemy's racket that only serves his agenda. All praises be to God Almighty, please know that this is not the gospel message, instead it dangerously omits the powerful truth of Jesus' last exhortation to His disciples - teach ALL things. Please know that there is HOPE, REDEMPTION, FORGIVENESS, and ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ!
Please note in the Old Testament: Ezekiel 18 (NKJV) 21 “But if a WICKED man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 22 NONE of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live. 23 Do I have ANY pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live? Our Creator God is NOT an angry monster seeking to destroy. In fact, after the flood, He made covenant with HIMSELF through the rainbow as a reminder to Himself that He would never send a global flood again to destroy humanity. The rainbow is not a sign for humans; it is a sign for Himself as a reminder of His own covenant of LIFE and PEACE with us available through Jesus Christ. PLEASE read Romans 8 - there is NO condemnation in Christ Jesus, and NOTHING can ever separate you from God's love through Jesus Christ. He desires for everyone to repent, turn their hearts to Him and receive forgiveness and eternal life through His Son Jesus Christ. Our Creator God is perfect LOVE - demonstrated by Him making the ultimate sacrifice in order for humanity to receive eternal life as a free, unearned GIFT through the death and resurrection of His Son. God's desire is for ALL to join His family into all of eternity, adopted children of God. And Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE exactly because He is the only key to the Father having paid in our stead the penalty of death (wrath of God satisfied) that we all deserve for our sins. Matthew 28 (NKJV) 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. What did Jesus Christ teach? Romans 3 (NKJV) 23 for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Romans 6 (NKJV) 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. 29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, 30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. John 3 (NKJV) 16 For God so LOVED the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOEVER believes in Him should NOT perish but have everlasting life. 1 Thessalonians 5 (NKJV) 9 For God did NOT appoint us to wrath, but to obtain SALVATION through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him. Romans 5:8-9 (NKJV) 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were STILL sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be SAVED from WRATH through Him. Mercy triumphs over judgment. (James 2:13, NKJV) SO much more to say... But it would be best if the author of this video would have the Godly courage to either: 1. Preach the whole gospel and bring LIFE and HOPE to all those who are so deeply discouraged by this message, or 2. If in fact this was part of a longer message that contained the whole gospel giving HOPE through Jesus Christ, please remove this video.
If you feel discouraged and defeated by this video, please read on... A person dear to me who watched this, now believes he is eternally doomed to hell with no way out. Earnestly seeking God, he heard this and is now left without hope. Such tragedy when the nature and the ways of God is distorted. The enemy's racket that only serves his agenda. All praises be to God Almighty, please know that this is not the gospel message, instead it dangerously omits the powerful truth of Jesus' last exhortation to His disciples - teach ALL things. Please know that there is HOPE, REDEMPTION, FORGIVENESS, and ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ!
Please note in the Old Testament: Ezekiel 18 (NKJV) 21 “But if a WICKED man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 22 NONE of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live. 23 Do I have ANY pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live? Our Creator God is NOT an angry monster seeking to destroy. In fact, after the flood, He made covenant with HIMSELF through the rainbow as a reminder to Himself that He would never send a global flood again to destroy humanity. The rainbow is not a sign for humans; it is a sign for Himself as a reminder of His own covenant of LIFE and PEACE with us available through Jesus Christ. PLEASE read Romans 8 - there is NO condemnation in Christ Jesus, and NOTHING can ever separate you from God's love through Jesus Christ. He desires for everyone to repent, turn their hearts to Him and receive forgiveness and eternal life through His Son Jesus Christ. Our Creator God is perfect LOVE - demonstrated by Him making the ultimate sacrifice in order for humanity to receive eternal life as a free, unearned GIFT through the death and resurrection of His Son. God's desire is for ALL to join His family into all of eternity, adopted children of God. And Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE exactly because He is the only key to the Father having paid in our stead the penalty of death (wrath of God satisfied) that we all deserve for our sins. Matthew 28 (NKJV) 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. What did Jesus Christ teach? Romans 3 (NKJV) 23 for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Romans 6 (NKJV) 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. 29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, 30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. John 3 (NKJV) 16 For God so LOVED the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOEVER believes in Him should NOT perish but have everlasting life. 1 Thessalonians 5 (NKJV) 9 For God did NOT appoint us to wrath, but to obtain SALVATION through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him. Romans 5:8-9 (NKJV) 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were STILL sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be SAVED from WRATH through Him. Mercy triumphs over judgment. (James 2:13, NKJV) SO much more to say... But it would be best if the author of this video would have the Godly courage to either: 1. Preach the whole gospel and bring LIFE and HOPE to all those who are so deeply discouraged by this message, or 2. If in fact this was part of a longer message that contained the whole gospel giving HOPE through Jesus Christ, please remove this video.
You're missing a key component: hate in the original Greek means to LOVE LESS. We are to HATE ourselves and our families according to Jesus... Hate isn't what the world says it is Barry's behind most hate, there is so much passion behind it, it had to stem from somewhere (usually love). I have felt so much pain from my mother, I have even hated her..... But i love her though.... We gotta "rightly divide the word of truth" (1 or 2 Timothy)
@Yena to clarify, are you saying God loves the wicked? Does that include man or satan also? Not being ridiculous here. Want to find your definition of God being love
@Yena I love the ezekiel 33 verse! Thanks. which greek word are you using? Also, which verse saying God hates are you referring to? Haven't watched this video for a while and don't recall. Miseo is a greek word for hate and it means hate and detest. I want to make sure we are in disagreement and not just misunderstanding
What word are you using in greek for "hate"? Miseo is the greek word used and it means "hate, detest". Here is the strongs μισέω miséō, mis-eh'-o; from a primary μῖσος mîsos (hatred); to detest (especially to persecute); by extension, to love less:-hate(-ful).
But God demonstrated His love in that while we were still His enemies, Christ died for us. The human psyche is very complex. Capable of more than one emotion or self expression at the same time. How much more so God. It is possible for God to hate, yet still have some underlying love for someone. He still desires even the most wicked sinner to repent, indicating love. God still loves
Psalm 11:5 The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence. Hosea 9:15 Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal; there I began to hate them. Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of my house. I will love them no more; all their princes are rebels. Everyone who thinks that God loves everyone unconditionally and doesn't hate doesn't understand love or hate. Love is not a warm fuzzy feeling, it's actionable. It's patient, kind, longsuffering... 1 Corinthians 14: 4-8 It doesn't say love is a feeling, love is happiness. Love may cause those things, but those things are not love. So God can still show his love for us by sending Jesus down to suffer His wrath in our stead, without being wrong in hating wicked evil abominable people.
Consider the rich man who came to God, who had not made Jesus is Lord but was given over to money. In Mark 10:21 we read: "Jesus looked at him and LOVED HIM" Did this man ever make a commitment? We are not told. We are just told that Jesus loved him even in his idolatry. Let us be clear - God's wrath, judgement and hell are all real. But any sermon needs to be balanced and the whole of Scripture must be taken into account. This clip does not do that.
God did not create sinful humans. He created humans who were perfect before they fell into the first sin. But because he loves us so much, he chose to die for us. Yes he hates sin and the sinner but he also loves his creation which is why he chose the cross. The cross was His wrath. He took the place of the sinner so that we dont have to endure his wrath which is what we all deserve. This is why the Cross and resurrection is so powerful
@@meganbunch8271 I respectfully disagree. If God is omnicent then he fore knew we gonna sin because though he gave humans free will. He knew they gonna sin. One my say am just human, but I think the better think would have to not provide the option of fruit at Eden. By so doing he did to sucrifice himself for himself because of something which he did
@@evanskip1 there is no way of knowing why God does certain things. He gave us free will to choose to obey Him or not which shows us love but we decided to go against that love by choosing to disobey.
We would only sin because we were born with the sin nature or flesh. We didn't ask to be born,we had no free will to be born into sin. We weren't born like Adam without sin,and made a choice. I understand you can't answer this question,but to make excuses and give ridiculos answers doesn't help anyone understand better. It says in the bible Ezekiel 18 1-19 that the son shouldn't be held accountable for the father's sin. But that is exactly what is happening
To answer your first question, yes. And the second, there's hope in the sinless, blameless and perfect lamb of God. The Lord Jesus Christ. We can't save ourselves. But Jesus can
@@emiliobeltran5252 very contradicting when this ministry has pastors in two documentaries where they have mentioned that sinless perfection is heresy…
There is no hope if you listen to this teaching,yes it is true that God hate sin and sin separates from God but He loves us that why He send His one and only son for us to die on the cross and rose from the dead.
I studied religion when I was in the seminary and believe me the only thing that made me distrust God is the Bible itself once you start reading and start to make sense of the scriptures is when you realise that we have a cruel GOd
You were either asleep at seminary or you went to a crappy seminary. Try reading the Bible. You'll figure out giving His son for those that crucified Him was not cruel
Nope. Correction is needed. If it wasn't for Jesus, God couldn't justly show loving actions towards sinners. But he could certainly still pity and want them to be better. He could still want to save them. THAT LOVE IS WHY JESUS WAS SENT.
Not just family in christ: "Love your enemies. Pray for those you persecute you." "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to You? Even Sinners do that."
Do you treat your own children that you brought into this world this way? Are they your children of wrath? Are you going to torment then, not if but when they make mistakes? Maybe I am crazy but, it seems like that would be a strang way to show love.
Man are bent against God. They rather disobey and rebel on their way to hell than to submit their life to Christ. They can’t draw near God and WILL not
Justice demands your own children, when knowingly doing wrong, must be accountable. Don't compare our sinful ways to God. How many would let their child off if they raped and murdered someone? God doesn't torment. He made a way to be with Him. It's repentance. If we choose to live in our sin, we choose to spend eternity apart from God. That isn't His fault
For those struggling with grasping these truths, please hear the full sermon that this excerpt is taken from, "The Rarity of Christ's Love": ruclips.net/video/LDvGf-mCUpc/видео.html
Your message has caused a lot of division which is not of God, & if there's more to this message then don't post just half. I pray a sinner who does not know the word of God does not come on here and hear this and feel it's hopeless that they can't repent because God hates them and commit suicide. Jesus never once taught or preached My Father Hates you. How is this telling them God hates them winning souls to the Kingdom of God? Jesus did not come to save the church, for the church already has a physician, but there's people out here in this world that are dying without Christ Jesus as their Lord Saviour and he is there physician.
People are dealing with fear, depression, panic attacks, etc....& this message would push anyone who doesn't know God's precious word over the cliff! If you're going to post something like this at least let him know there is a way out and that way out is through Jesus Christ and by Repentance. This is just crazy. I pray for you.
Thank you so much I really needed to hear desperately . Is a topic that needs to be heard. Please keep preaching . Gods wrath and pusnishment something that we must know. Is vital.
@@peaceinjesuschrist4987 I understand what you're saying, but maybe staying positive and sweet loving sermons inhibits us from accepting the inconvenient realities.Fearing God is Wisdom.Tims sermons are for people who are looking for the truth. God is our saviour but also a Judge . We need to understand Gods wrath. We all going to be judged. We all sinners. But we dont know how wicked and evil we are and Tim is making me realise that. and thats very important. There is steve furtick and td jakes were the lukewarms can watch but Tim is only one of the few who actually telling the reality
@@peaceinjesuschrist4987
Good evening Sister ,
CAN I ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS PLEASE :
1. When God destroyed all of mankind and spared only Noah and his family, was Jesus Christ in agreement?
2. When God destroyed sodom & Gomorrah was Jesus Christ present and was he in agreement?
3. When God said he hated Esau, Was Jesus Christ present and was he in agreement with the rest of the God head?
NOW please answer the remaining questions linked to the passages below.
Revelation 6:15-17 (KJV)
4. Who are these men hiding from?
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
5. Who is the Lamb referred to in this verse & why did the people prefer the mountains & rocks to fall on them?
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from THE WRATH OF THE LAMB :
6. WHO’S WRATH IS SPOKEN ABOUT HERE?
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Thanks Sister, eagerly expecting your response
@@pauloluwamayowa1422 May I ask you this question. Why would an all knowing god, be fearful of humans that plan to build a tower to heaven?
see Gen 11:6
Now any 12 year old human know that it is impossible for humans to build a tower to heaven, and your god is too stupid to know this. Thus proving that your god is nothing more than a cultural tribal made up god.
If it wasn’t for the grace of God, we would all perish.
Amen to that.
Yes but there will be people will perish. God had given Grace for us to repent but some refused to come to the light.
We are perishing
You are full of crap, right up to your eyeballs.
Which god
He is correct. Even if you don’t want to hear it or think it’s not “nice” to preach like this. It is God’s Word and Truth. “BUT”GOD ! Is probably the best word in the entire Bible. God gave us by His Grace and Mercy a way to be saved from His Wrathful Justice 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Romans 5:8 - But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
EIther the Bible is right, or Conway is. I'll go with the Bible.
the bible also said god hates sinners
Read Psalms 5:5.
CHRISTIAN TRUTH
God loved Jacob But Hated Esau
The problem with the statement-“God loves the sinner, but hates the sin”-is that it is misleading. It is not a false statement. And what is misleading about it is the word but, but hates the sin, because but should be and. God loves the sinner and hates the sin. But implies he doesn’t hate the sinner-that is not true. God does hate sinners. Psalm 5:4: “You are not a God who delights in wickedness. Evil may not dwell with you. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes. You hate all evildoers.” Or Psalm 11:5: “The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.” So it is just not true to give the impression that God doesn’t hate sinners by saying he loves the sinner and hates the sin. He does hate sinners. His wrath is real. It is not something he pours out on people he approves of
God revealed to me to be soft and humble and from a place of love when I go out and speak to people wherever I go..He said too many evangelists were too tough or angry or mean and that He doesn't mean for me to be that way to be careful and guard my heart.. so this is like hmmm...to me God bless you all! Glory be to God! I love You Jesus...Amen...
Most people don’t want the God of scripture. They would rather Have a God in their own image and likeness.
FIVE SOLAS. AMEN. Many Many people do not know the God of the Bible!!!!!! And because they don't so they come against those who preach the truth. This man is speaking the truth!!!
@@meliamehalafihi4821 well if you know the truth Maybe you can answer my question. What happens to babies that die? Are they saved? Because this man believes that babies go to hell, but what do you think?
Christian Stuff he said that he didn’t think so.
@@aheartonfire7191 he did? Where? Because he said in his "age of accountability" video that babies go to hell
I never tell people "smile, God loves you."
What I say is "God will not be mocked. Either we repent or face serious consequences."
@@mf-ud1uo someday you will care.
The Lord examines the righteous,
but the wicked, those who love violence,
he hates with a passion. - Psalm 11:5
1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwells in ,(them) and they in God>>>>God bless You >>In Jesus name >> In this i believe there is an afterlife
Guess you're just a perfect person
If quoting the Word of God makes you perfect then I suppose you're also perfect💪
"But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:8"
Although this is very true. GOD's love won't stop HIM from sending people to hell
@@vitoasaro4663 Hell is separation from God, God gives us all every chance to see His love and be with Him, He said that if anyone tries to go to Him, He will "by no means cast them out"
If people decide to push Him away their entire lives, they sadly continue to live without Him eternally :( may God help us remain with Him always
This is true. Yet, this does not make Psalm 11:5, Psalm 5:5, and Psalm 10:3 untrue.
@Lords child It says God (past tense) LOVED the world
@@Andyelmasry Hell is NOT separation from God. It is the inescapable presence of His wrath and anger.
Matthew 9:36-38 says Jesus felt compassion for the lost souls of Israel. Guys we need to stop with this idea that we cant tell people "God loves them". Its just ridciulous, the bible is so clear on it. John 3:16 the simplest reading means he loves the world and thats the whole point. He died for all and the free gift of eternal life is open to be recieved by anyone through faith.
Alex Musser But what exactly does 'faith' require to be saved and accepted?
Christ talked about lukewarm Christians being rejected.
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people.
The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV)
How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says.
The text says that God hates the sinner.
“you hate all evildoers.” (v.5)
“the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
@@tamitha20 I never said God doesn't hate sin or the sinner but its also just as biblical to tell people God loves them. Its not some kind of paradox - both are true
@@Peter-JesusIsTheOnlyWay The word faith is a synoym with believe. Galatians 3 shows that. So faith is placing your trust solely in the person and work of Jesus Christ. Lukewarm christians in Revelation 3 were already saved - they were a church
+Alex Musser Faith is also dead without works.
Well put, it is about the church. And sometimes the church preach a watered down version of repentance which results in a different doctrine than the one given of God through Jesus.
I also read your reply to +tamitha20 which is good and I agree that two things are addressed here #1 God's wrath; and #2 God's grace. If I understand Conway's message right he is pointing out that people don't fear God as they should(Correct me if I'm wrong.)
Jesus said to the adultress woman , go and sin no more, he didn't say go, to hell you sinner, God is love, merciful, and he doesn't want anyone to perish. God does hate sin, but if he hated the sinner, Jesus wouldn't have died for our sins. God is holy and also God is a consuming fire, but he is angry at the sin of this world and it's evil. God can't hate the sinner because that would mean everything he did for us on the cross was in vain. Those who reject Christ and willfully do are in danger of the wrath of God. But those who are born again and are really true children of God will find mercy. Please don't say that God hates sinners you are leading people who want to genuinely know God not want to seek him, because you say God hates them. God is love and we should show love to those who don't believe in God so they can see that we truly are disciples and brothers and sisters of our Father. God is love.
you have to understand that anyone who is NOT born again (not having the Holy Spirit of God) DO NOT BELONG TO GOD. Read Roman 8:9
gennyarod329 oh it is far worse than that friend! He has His sword sharpest, bow drawn back and pointed at the chest of the unregenerate. God’s wrath and anger are absolutely justified; that you would see that attribute of God as being unfit for worship shows a lack of understanding of Who God is.
No one is going to Hell, God loves us all right?
@@kingshabba6363 God loves us but God hates sin. So he can't send sin to hell so we go to hell because we chose to sin and reject Christ.
@@adonai554 Those who choose a sin, aren't they sinners?
This is talk/sermon is a new perspective to me. It does make sense in the my mind that if you love God you will accept his Son, your heart will be change, your actions will be changed, then God won't hate you or your actions (sin). Outside of that path there is no salvation.
Yes. God doesn't hate those that belongs to him. But he hates those who are keep on sinning and don't want to repent. Cos that's why Jesus came and died so that we died to sin
Please PRAY for me. I need help.
@@jenss.3613 hi Jens what are you going through?
@@madeforhisglory5866 long story, cut short: I committed adultery. I don't feel good. Will God forgive me?
@@jenss.3613 ok well you don't need much help. Of course He can forgive you. Just repent.
Romans 5:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 5:5 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=Psalm%205:5&version=KJV
All i see in this comment section are people who lack a basic biblical understanding of who God actually is. They've a made a god who suits their wants in their mind and they don't know the God of the Word. Jeremiah 9:23-24
Very well said
Exactly
God in the flesh of Jesus died for peoples’ sins not because of hate but because of love ! Hate brings punishment love brings forgiveness. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
John 3:16
We are enemies of God in our natural state. The Bible states that God is angry with the wicked every day. He loves us enough to die, but He burns with fierce anger towards our rebellion. People are cast into the Lake of Fire, not just their sin.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 3:18,36 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=John%203:18,36&version=KJV
I think we should just clear the air. God loves sinners but He hates sinners. What I'm saying is He loves sinners who come to Him and acknowledge their sin and grieve and repent, He stands with open arms and tells them to come to Him. But the self-righteous, judgmental, unrepentant, spiritual proud, religious sinner He hates. It's clear from the Bible and I think any true child of God can understand that. How would you feel if a proud person who says he knows you and loves you spits in your sons face, then tortures him and kills him in a brutal way right in front of you and then try to cover it up and carry on being friendly with you as if nothing happened? I'd be pretty upset and I'm a sinful man. Imagine how God must feel towards all who reject His son. Brother you've God nowhere to hide from an angry God.
I agree with what your saying....but this man needs to let them know God does love their Souls & wants them to repent of their sins. ..only way to God the father is through Jesus Christ , they must Repent & turn from their wicked ways indeed or they will be cast into the lake of fire & brimstone. The way he's teaching God hates you , you can't repent. Yet in 2nd Peter 3:9 KJV God plainly says He wants none to perish, But that ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE. why? Because God Love's their Souls.
& I unsubscribed from you, glad your not my pastor. I even posted this and this is going viral people cannot believe that you're claiming God hates them. WOW UNBELIEVABLE.
Peace in Jesus Christ I unsubscribed as well. God repented over 25 times in the Bible. God has no sin in him he is light in him is no darkness. Salvation is a free gift through Christ. Only Jesus Christ was and is perfect.
I just want to know where does it say in the bible God lover sinners and hate sin. Tim has provide scriptures . We have to remember is not the sin that will throw to hell is the sinners that will get thrown to hell.
Meliame Halafihi they won’t find the verse, but I’m sure they can show you a meme or bumper sticker! That is the state of American Christianity and it is a sad issue. For a pastor to preach The Gospel, unfiltered and undiluted, and have this much backlash from “Christians” (I don’t doubt most of their faith, I guess just their maturity) is exactly what The Bible says would happen.
“Do you think that I like to see wicked people die? says the Sovereign LORD. Of course not! I want them to turn from their wicked ways and live. Ezekiel 18:23
If the Lord hated the sinner he would not want the sinner to live but rather the Lord says he wants them to turn from their wicked ways and live and in fact came to fulfill the law through his blood shed for everyone who would call on his name because of His love for us even while we were his enemies for the Scriptures say "This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins." 1 John 4:9-10
Let's see a similar verse, shall we?
Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord GOD, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?’ (Eze 33:11)--this verse is basically a repeat of the one you quoted (and mind you, continuing from that passage, go on to read verses 18:24-25... you can see the passage is addressed to Israel as well in v. 25)
You know, I never read "turn, why should you die, O multitudes in ancient China and India" anywhere in the Bible. The fact that these messages were written to Israel, and Israel only easily proves that God is certainly not inclined nor required to give the other nations any similar warning (until the Gospel age) if it so pleases Him.
@@kb27787 what's your point exactly?
Exactly. They need to repent to avoid God's justice and judgment. He loved them enough to make a way
Don't forget the verses talking about the unrepentant and the wicked.
Psalms 5:4-6, For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
This preacher gives no hope to those who are lost
Repentance is their hope. He clears up a false teaching spread around. The Bible is clear on this. You give your son to a mob and have him crucified to make him the object of justice for the mob's sin. Then the mob still doesn't care? How would you feel? God is just to hate the wicked
Really? How about repent? That is the hope
@@rocketsurgeon1746That isn’t his message, his message is your hated by God. All people are sinners and he says God hates sinners. Even the man after Gods own heart, David, was a sinner. This is a message that God hates you for being lost there isn’t any hope in this man’s false teaching.
@@reedtodd2404 listen to the video again. You are hearing what you want to hear. God hates the wicked and unrepentant. He loves the sinner that repents. God sends the unrepentant to the lake of fire with satan. That is called judgement.
@@rocketsurgeon1746 I haven’t damn said God doesn’t damn people to hell or that he doesn’t love repentance. And you keep saying everywhere that God Hates the wicked people. Psalms says God hates the wicked and psalms is the private notes of Solomon and David not the word of the God through the prophets. Is the New Testament, which says God loves sinners and that we are all sinners, wrong. You are uneducated and don’t know what you are talking about. Also I have rewatched the video and Tim Conway is just making himself look more and more like an idiot.
God is a God of wrath as well a GOD of love. We must rightly divide the Word. This man is speaking the TRUTH
Please read the scriptures this man is speaking the truth from for yourselves. I pray the Holy Spirit gives everyone revelation of this TRUTH of God.
Praise God I find a comment that agree with this man. Yes this man is speaking the truth.
Hi sir I'm sorry I was so later finding this video and you. Scriptures Isaiah54 verses 9 and 10.
If your father Ehye was ever a power of wrath, he made a promise after the tender shoot of Isaiah 53 put his love down, in 54 that there would be NO anger in the same as no flood. In 55 he stayed this is free for his holy people because of what he said to David. In 56 he stated no foreigner bound to Yahuahh can say he will exclude them from his people. Ie this is for everyone. Isaiah54'9-10. If you want other scripture from one who reads the bible we can state our scriptures, and since scripture cannot be set aside, we can divide the word of truth to find the line that expressed both sides properly.
The one who loves you most is the one who tells you the most truth." -Paul Washer
One who loves would first take responsibility in knowing the truth before speeking it. The world will boast in knowing the truth falsely, and so will sometimes Christians like Tim.
we are people... make all men Liars and God the truth! stop judging and start praying more! we must build each other up and not break down! as lomg as we keep our eyes on christ!
The truth is that God hates sin and sinners
@@rubenthompson5900 VERY TRUE 👍
I lie to people so they dont get hurt.
I have seen so many people here quote JOHN 3:16. That's great. But make sure you read the rest of the verseS after verse 16. So you can fully understand the context. Yes Jesus died for our sins. And because He died now we are to die to sin also. And if we continue to keep on sinning and knowing Jesus had done the work on the cross. Then God is not with you. Don't think that Jesus died and think that we can continue to sin because he died for our sins. You deceive yourself.
@Don Donald Thank you!! Sanctification of the Holy Spirit in our life is a process.
Ah the sinless perfection doctrine....it is INSTANT and NOT a process of sanctification. Let me guess, Romans 7:14-25 is Paul PREconversion???
We seem to forget that God knows past, present, and future, God knows who is chosen and who is not. God hates the wicked and loves the righteous, though He hates the self righteous, those who are like the pharisees.
Alot of people seem to overlook the story of Jacob and Esau. Before the two were born God stated, "Jacob I love Esau I hate."
God before time has made an inheritance for His elect. When you make an inheritance, no one can be added to or taken away from that inheritance. Predestination is proven multiple times throughout scripture. It is not our will to love God but it is God's will.
You see, in John 1 12-14 it states that it's not the will of man, but the will of God we are His.
It's by the grace and the love of God people are chosen not our own. A man can say "I love Jesus I love God." It doesn't mean God or Jesus loves them back.
In 1st John it states the signs if you're saved or not, ask yourself "Do I have the fruits of the Spirit?" Ask "Do I truly love God or do I just say I do?" Ask "Would I truly give my life for God like Jesus did for us?" Ask "Am I truly being sanctified away from my old nature?" Ask "Am I battling through spiritual warfare?"
Why did I say ask yourself if you're struggling through spiritual warfare? The enemy doesn't tempt those who are unsaved, he doesn't need to, why hunt something that's already dead? The enemy enjoys tempting Christians. The only time I think the enemy attacks those who are unelected would be possession. By the way, christians cannot be possessed because christians are filled with the Holy Spirit.
How to tell you're being sanctified is, you are losing your old desires over time. When you have the Holy Spirit within you, your old self is dead, your old self has been crucified with your old desires. Now you're made new, more Christ Like Roman's 6 dead to sin alive in God.
Do you have the fruits: Peace, Joy, Love, Patience, Self Control, etc?
Would you truly give up everything for God even your life?
Love brother Tim, this truth needs to be said and explained often!
people are saying that God is not capable of hate.
@@tamitha20 I know
Amen
Please pray for me
So happy the Lord lead me to Pastor Conway. Praise GOD for Real Truth preachers especially nowadays
Jenna Saglembeni yes he teach the Bible for real I am thankful to God to leading feeling free
Thomas Cucuzza...the good news is simply believing... Calvinism causes anxiety because it puts the focus on oneself to stay faithful instead of the Lord.
I am more grateful to the Holy Spirit teaching me, correcting me and Guiding me. He taught me this which is priceless to you. 1 Corinthians 2:5
@@The72Rabbit
The Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth and reveal pastors who speak the truth.
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people.
The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV)
How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says.
The text says that God hates the sinner.
“you hate all evildoers.” (v.5)
“the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
Don’t understand how people can deny this with the many many scriptures that support pastor Conway’s position on this
Many more scriptures plainly go against Tim. To personify God's justice as "hate" makes sense in context. To personify God's justice as "mocking" makes sense in context. Especially since the pld testament did not ser Jesus, a main focus on the old testament was justice. But Tim taking is out of context to try to push his own agenda for shock value. Thats not right.
people think that God is only capable of love and not hate. if we love babies, then we hate abortion.
tamitha20
Bam. Got em
@joashsmusic Christ never contradicts himself. If your interpretation of the Bible contradicts Christ teachings, you are wrong and need to reinterpret any said passage.
@@aheartonfire7191 Problem is abortion is an action, not a person.
In that sense, how do you cope for instance with Eph. 2,1-5?
"1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience- 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ-by grace you have been saved"
Or Romans 5,8: "but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
Similarily Luke 15,11-32, verse 24: "For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found."
Furthermore, as Christians, we still sin. Simul iustus et peccator. How does that fit into the idea of God hating the sinner? In my understanding this would lead to righousness by works. You would be responsible to stop sinning, so God could love you again. Obviously this contradicts the whole gospel, so what am I missing? - It's right, God has every right to hate the sinner and we as sinners deserve to be hated by him. But isn't exactly that the gospel, that Jesus died for our sins, because God actually does love us?
God is a JUST GOD! Yes God is Love! The Bible is highly misinterpreted! God didn't send JESUS to abolish his LAW. He came to uphold it! If ye be dead to sins, how can you live anymore in sin. Quoting the bible in attempt to JUSTIFY one's Sin is HYPOCRISY and WICKEDNESS
By the long suffering of God we weren't all killed the moment we first sinned. God is Holy, mankind is wicked. We deserve nothing but eternal justice, but God delights in giving grace to the humble.
@Capt. E. Wells What have you done to deserve anything other than divine retribution? What makes you so special?
@Capt. E. Wells What do you think you deserve, Heaven? Only perfect people deserve Heaven. But undeserving sinners can be granted what they don't deserve through the mercy & grace of God. God will actively resist you until you call upon Him in repentance because He only gives grace to the humble.
This is a weird concept for me god creates sin then creates man to sin then tells man he hates them and the sin and is unworthy so he holds his creations accountable for his actions ?
@@crucifiedwithchrist9367 don’t be so hard on yourself I’m sure your not as bad a person as your god makes you out to be
Maybe sin is psyop for the human mind
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalms 5:5 KJV
I'm sure your perfect Nikkole Harrell good for you ! 👍🏻
@@madeforhisglory5866 Stop telling on me. 😁
@@NikkNakk83 such meekness and humble nature you embody
@@madeforhisglory5866 Thank you! 😌
Yes God hates the sin but He loves the sinner and thats why He gave His one and only son,to die on the cross and rose from the dead so that through Christ we may have life and we are forgiven,and yes God is just but He is mercifull.and also it is true that we dont deserve His love but still He gave Himself up for us all "sinners" and Gods wrath will remain to those who remain wicked and unrepentant stoned heart and do not accept Jesus
Does God love those who deny His Son? Does He love those who hate Him when they stand before Him in judgment?
@@sonofliberty02 don't be a deceiver with questions like that. Prov 6:16 is for people like you. God hates lairs, deceivers and those that sow discord among the brethren.
If God hates the sinner, he would never have sent his son. I can get stuck on a pasage of scripture and especially in the Old Testament. I have completely took out Our Savior. Judgment day will be very difficult for those who do not have Christ as their defense attorney.
God sent His son so that He can love us. If it wasn't for Jesus, God would hate everyone. think about it. It is only because of what Jesus did on the cross that allows God to be able to love us.
@@tamitha20 very wrong, very I
Unscriptural
Oliver Lloyd
you have no right to tell me that i am wrong. you are wrong. you are probably a sinner unwilling to repent
Oliver Lloyd
if God doesn't hate the sinner, why does he send them all to hell for eternity?
tamitha20 God sends no one to hell, by our sinful nature we choose to go to hell, hell was made for, Satan and his cronies.
Praise God that He is a God of justice, that he hates sinners. Praise Almighty and wise and loving God for his judgement. People who reject this message do NOT know God at all.
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Christians became hippies after the 60's. Look at the previous 2 thousand years. Christians were crushing it through war and conquest. Jesus said to trade in your coat for a sword.
For God so LOVED the world that he gave
Right, the Lord had to give His Son to satisfy His divine wrath that was justly due towards sinful man. The reason God so LOVED, is because of man's sin and God's just anger towards the sinner. In order for God to be just and justify sinners He had to satisfy His wrath (Romans 3) and that is why Christ died. Thanks be to God!
Psalm 5:5-6 nkjv
5 The boastful shall not stand in Your sight;
You HATE all workers of iniquity.
6 You shall DESTROY those who speak falsehood;
The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.
""Loved"" past tense
For God so loved his law
@@123wiley ??
God sacrificed his precious son to save a sinner like me . Read the Bible. Discern the truth . Pray so that you could distinguish the word of God and false preaching. Somebody tell this man - the name above all names - Jesus.
You’re right. God hated His son for that moment. He would be just to hate people, he’s God and he could intentionally hate us and it would be in his parameters.
God hates sinners. Romans 5 says sin must not be the master of your life because you are not under law but unde grace.
so you guys also thin this guy is a false preacher ?
@@dahliasuchino6554 so God hates you cause a sinner is someone who sins and all humans sin even when they do except Christ .
I loosen myself of all God hates, loosening myself of every unequal yoke and common share with those God hates, in accordance with proverbs 6, psalm 7:11, 2 corinthians 6:14-15 and this whole message, in the name andblood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah!
How are you loosening yourself? By repentance? I'm confused by your comment
If God hates sinners, why then does He command us to love our enemies if He doesn't do the same?!
Do you love the prophet Mohammed peace be upon him?
@@seekthetruth762 No, I love Jesus
@@400BadR3quest So don't tell me you love your enemy and you don't love the sin but the sin and the sinner. As Muslim we love jesus and Mohammed peace be upon them. That's the teaching of Islam. Why do you hate the prophet Mohammed peace be upon him?
@@seekthetruth762 I love my enemies so I don't agree with the video. God loves the sinner but hates the sin. I don't know about mohammed cause he's not in the christian beliefs, only Jesus
@@400BadR3quest Do you love muslims?
The Bible says we should hate the sin but love the sinner, yes scripture says people are enemies of God while unsaved but it also say for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. God says he has no pleasure in the death of anyone, so to say God hates the sinner also would only drive people away from God. People need to understand that God is God and should be feared , for he has the power to destroy both body and soul in hell, be he is very willing to help and save anyone who comes to him, we need to remember the devil is the bad guy, God is the good guy in all of this, but he has rules and has made a way for people to come to him, it is the individuals hatred of God that leads them to destruction , not Gods hatred of anyone.
He hates sinners who have no mind to change
He judges them on earth and in he'll to no end, not hates them emotionally. He is not a pety God changed up by a creature. In destroying the sinner he shows his justice, not his hate.
Where does it say that I'm the bible
If we are going to quote John 3:16 We must also keep reading the verseS after that.
What are you talking about? God is long suffering not willing that ANY should perish. I am glad I grew up knowing the truth and not listening to such foolishness. He tells us to love our enemies yet he hates us???? NO!!! False teaching!!!
I hear how you feel, but what he says is true. Remember God resists the proud and are close to the humble. Jesus said the Pharisees were the children of Satan, that is all of us who have not been saved by Jesus's Grace. John 6 shows how followers left Jesus due to His hard teachings, the desciples asked Him then "How can anyone accept it?" John 6:60 and "How can anyone be saved" Matthew 19:25
Psalm 5:5-6 nkjv
5 The boastful shall not stand in Your sight;
You HATE all workers of iniquity.
6 You shall DESTROY those who speak falsehood;
The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.
Noah Troub where do you stand in the balance of Gods scales of justice?
Sorry he's ducked in the head
?? Maybe.... "God hate sinners"... Is not the way we understand " hate"....this is scary!!??.....I just cannot rap my head around Christ hating people the way we hate!!??
We in the last hour, I for one, am veryyyy weary of just excepting a teaching, even if you giving a scripture verse to it, because scripture gets taken out of context over and over.... Yet, I have always liked and trusted Tim...but this one?....I will have to come before the Lord and slow the Holy Spirit to show me.....
God’s ‘hate’ is just and righteous. Its an outcome of His justice and holiness.
It’s not like human ‘hate’ which is sullied with emotions and coupled with sinfulness. Both should never be compared.
Unlike God, man can never love and hate at the same time. God is a just Judge and loving Father at the same time.
There's that one Psalm who says that G-D abhors the sinner
GOD can be provoked to hate.... But you can sniff error and heresy in this teaching... Be very careful. Notice, I said God can be provoked to Hate, because that is in the Bible... BUT it is very different to assert that he hates all sinners in the same way.... Very very different.... Look at the Ministry of Jesus towards sinners, do you suppose that was born out of a motivation of hatred? No! Hatred is in the Bible, but they pick the fewer verses it is. Go look up hatred in the Bible, then go look up love.... There is a monumental difference between the two. So Hatred should be put in its right place, not here how there using it
Oliver Lloyd Jesus did come for the sinners but he hated those who were sinners for refusing to change.
@@messianictruth4653 God is willing no one should perish
Hebrews 10:31 King James Version (KJV)
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Romans 3:23, NIV: "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"
Watching Tim Conway gradually led to anxiety and shame. The good news is that Christ died for all our sins and we will not be condemned even if we sin!
depends on your heart. The bible does mention that you can be blotted from the book of life if you dont overcome.
How does one overcome?
@@messianictruth4653
Please read anewdaydawning.com for information about how this does NOT mean heaven.
HisGraces Saves by believing that Jesus is the Son of God
AMEN!!!! Very much biblical indeed.
You guys are acting like God hates on people for no reason. God hates sinners AND God loves sinners....at the same time. He hates them for what they are. He loves them because it’s what His character is, it’s in His NATURE to love, He IS love, and He hates what is evil and cannot stand it. God hates sinners yet still gives them time to repent of their wickedness.
He begs and pleads for us to turn to him, over and over again because of the justice that will prevail. Whether on the right side of it or not.
Now if this is the gospel truth, I will accept it. Seems biblical to me. But my question is, how do we preach this truth in a way that causes godly sorrow, not wordly sorrow? How do we bring the fragrance of Christ, not the law when we preach this?
The world understands hate. What they lack seeing in Christians is Gods Grace. If I talk to Christians today about Sodom, most would say they are in hell. From Tim's message ... I would hear him say the same thing. But that is NOT what Jesus said. I won't share the truth when some people in this group do not understand the price paid on Calvary because Jesus loves us so much. If you do want to know what Jesus said about Sodom, message me. May Gods Grace through His Son grow in you always. Truly Mercy triumphs over condemnation and judgment. This is what the world cries out for when all else fails. Gods Grace and Mercy.
We don't do it. The Holy Spirit does. We preach the truth with love it's up to God to do with the word and save those whom He has chosen.
N Zivkovich I guess we have to preach both equally then. Because only one sided preaching will damage the church instead
calvinist CANNOT preach the GOSPEL of grace because they say you have to repent "OF YOUR SINS" and not repent of UNBELIE,
I'll prove that yhe sin of the world is UNBELIEF, Jesus said in John 6 that when the holy spirit comes he will Reprove the world of SIN not SINS, what is the SIN,
"OF SIN BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE NOT ON ME", the sin issue was paid at the cross so that no one has an excuse not to believe, the issue now is UNBELIEF,
Jesus said to the pharasees you will die in yoir sins if you believe not that i am he ,you will die in your SINS, John the baptist said BEHOLD THE LAMB OF GOD WHICH TAKETH AWAY THE "SIN" NOT SINS OF THE WORLD.
calvinism is a dreadful and deadly disease that has influenced many to work for SALVATION.
be blessed and believe that Jesus died for the whole WORLD and having only a mustard seed of FAITH you can can be saved by his grace through FAITH in CHRIST, the gospel is to everyone and
anyone, its free will.
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people.
The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV)
How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says.
The text says that God hates the sinner.
“you hate all evildoers.” (v.5)
“the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
Good job pastor conway for not sugar coating the truth
Yeah, whiplash those sinners with your tongue pastor they’re listening!!
Praise the Lord send those sinners to hell hallelujah!! I hate myself for the LORD!!
Yet another biblical contradiction. Why would he have sent himself to die for us if he hated us?
"why would he send Himself to die"??? HE didn't. You will pay for your own sins. Shall the LORD of all the earth pervert justice?
@@themoroccanangel
John 3:16.
@@jonathanwilliams3742 hmmmm....Mr. Williams,
Jesus said, "I came not to call the righteous, but the sinners to repentance" (Luke 5:32, KJV)
my question to you is, Do you need jesus' sacrifice?...for not all are sinners, but there are a select few who are faithful to the CREATOR.
Where do you stand ...among the faithful ...or the unfaithful?
If you are indeed among the unfaithful...and cling to the human sacrifice of Jesus...
You had better be certain that the GOD of Israel will accept the sacrifice.....my guess...In all kindness, you don't know HIM.
www.meekasix.com/post/forgiveness-or-injustice
@@themoroccanangel
It was his sacrifice that paid for the sins of the world, which included mine....
I trust alone in his work...
So yeah I know him........
You on the other hand may not, if you have placed your trust in anything else.
@@themoroccanangel
You need salvation.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Ephesians 2:8-9
If God hates both Sin and Sinners.. why did he send his Son to die ?
You’re Bible will tell you. Go there to find answers, not RUclips comments.
8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. -Romans 5:8
God is a God of wrath. But, He is also a God of love. To understand how He can be both, look at the Cross. There He poured out His wrath, His hate for sinners, onto Christ. Christ absorbed the punishment we, as sinners, deserve, because He loves us. This should make sense to the redeemed because they realize that their sin is offensive to God (Psalm 51). For the non believer, this should stand out as the only truly kind act anyone has ever done and should drive them to repent and trust in Jesus Christ as Savior and Redeemer.
His word says He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but He does get pleasure through His Son receiving a bride from His Father and to be known and worshiped by those who were once against Him but God has made their hearts new to love God and His ways.
Basically, yes God hates sin and sinners as they are one and the same, yet God would rather send His Son to take the punishment everyone deserves for the sin they committed, and they have nothing to offer that can even come close to paying that debt to satisfy the wrath of God. Only Jesus could pay the debt, God can't just ignore it because He is just, and a just judge doesn't let a criminal go free after committing their crimes and found guilty. Once has paid the debt for our sins, then we can be made right with God if by grace through faith in Christ we would be saved, which comes from hearing, understanding and believing the Gospel correctly. Then we would be made new creatures that God doesn't hate and rather loves for He would make us like new creatures, with new desires, new affections, making them more like Christ, those people will drastically be different from who they were when they were just a lost sinner.
God hates us in the beginning, but that's not the way He wants it to be, He would rather save us and love us. He hates us because in sin, we're worthy of being hated, but when Christ has paid the debt for our sin, and God has made us like Christ and washed our sins away and remembers them no more, then we are made worthy to love because of Christ and what He has done for us, to us and through us for His Father's will.
@@VYMQGSOH sinners and sin are not the same thing. Adam and Eve were pure at one point so therefore humans are not sin unless your calling god a sinner for creating the sin called humanity. what your saying is that god is a sinner. blasphemers like you need to be corrected. if humans were sin that means the cross was in vain and because we are sin we cannot change and repent. even though god told us to.. your playing with fire keep going and you will get burned. note that I didn't say we aren't sinful. we are sinful but are aren't sin otherwise god had sinned. god made something good and the devil turned it corrupted. it repented the lord that he had made man on the earth. but does that mean god sinned? NO!!!!!. it means god felt bad for his creations and he wanted to spare us by putting us out of our misery. bt god had plans for Noah and his family. so they ended up being saved.
@@VYMQGSOH made worthy to love?
But God demonstrates is own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8
He loved us before we were made right. His love isn't a result of a cross, the cross is a result of His love
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Yup - God HATES sin.
So if you STILL sin - He HATES you.
He WARNED you.
John 8: 34 "Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin *IS THE SERVANT OF SIN."*
John 8:11 | She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more
Awesome story. Think it had to do with her being repentant? Or did Jesus just turn a blind eye to sin?
Our human definition of hate should not be what is spoken of here. Maybe more clarity is needed on this one. I agree, but in the sense that because of the righteousness and holiness of God mankind will never measure up. His holy vengeance must be exacted upon us because of who He is. Our redemption from this vengeance (which is also holy and not comparable to human vengeance) is by grace through faith in the washing redemption of Christ’s blood. This is the only way we will be presented faultless before the throne. Without it, we’re guilty and worthy of damnation. Gotta love the truth of God’s Word. It will 100% set you free.
A human being finds God's love at calvary. You reject calvary, you reject God's love for you forever.
When I confront a sinner, I share Gods love to them as a means of watering and planting. I really do not threaten them that they are going to he'll. Everyone I have talked to really has had someone done that in their past. I do explain the differences between the devil and Jesus in John 10:10 very clearly. I like what Paul spoke of in scripture. Should I come to you with a whip or a kind and gentle spirit. Remember, we are to be wise as serpants but harmless as doves. For years I did not know how much Jesus loves me. I should have been dead a long time ago. But I am alive today to share the love of Christ and the message of Christ, knowing I am accountable to God for everything. Truly ... Mercy Triumphs over Judgment. May I be that example of Christ in everything I do as Jesus said twice in Matthew ... I desire mercy and not sacrifice.
If God hates sinners, then St John’s words apply: “20If anyone says, “I love God,” but hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. 21And we have this commandment from Him: Whoever loves God must love his brother as well.” (1 John 4.20-21)
So if God claims to love anyone, but hates sinners, “He is a liar”. God cannot be allowed a lower moral standard than He requires of of His disciples. Since He requires Christians to love their enemies, He has no right to be allowed not to love His enemies. If men are to do what God refuses to do or cannit do, men are acting more righteously and mercifully than God, and put the God they worship to shame. For such a god is inferior to them. To say that God behaves in a way which Is the moral opposite of what He requires of His disciples, is to say that God has a split personality, or is a hypocrite.
If God does not love sinners - how are His disciples supposed to love those who sin against them ? How can we obey God’s command, if God does not set us an example by doing what He tells us to do ? But in Christ, that is exactly what God does: He “shows us how it’s done”.
To say that God hates sinners, is not true. The Death of Christ, for sinners, while they were still sinners, proves it to be not true. Old Testament passages cannot be allowed to trump the Teaching of Christ, for the Teaching of Christ is the plumbline by which all other teaching in the Bible is to be measured.
The God revealed in Jesus Christ is very different from the God Who is said to hate His enemies. God’s fullest revelation is *not* a book or body of books, but Jesus of Nazareth, the man Who is God Himself. “The letter kills - it is the Spirit Who gives life”.
To say that people are “hate-worthy”, misses the point of God’s grace and love. The point is, that God loves sinners *because they are unworthy of God’s love* . All of us can come to God only as the sinners all of us are. That God loves us sinners, is not in any way caused by any pre-existing loveableness in us. It is the grace of God, and nothing else, that confers value on us, by loving us. Grace is never, and can never be, a reward for being good. It is a medicine for the sick & the terminally ill, to give them the health they do not have, greatly need, and can find only in God. A God Who hated sinners. would not give this Health, which is Christ, to them.
God’s grace *does not find sinners* love-worthy, but *makes them* love-worthy, by loving them when they were unlovable & loveless. Any light and love in them, comes from the Divine Word Who “enlightens every man that comes into the world”.
Only sinners can be forgiven - the righteous have no need of forgiveness; they have no need of a physician. So in the Gospel, Christ does not associate with the righteous Pharisees & Scribes; He prefers the company of sinners, and seeks them out. He is made sin for us. Far more fully than St Paul, He is the Chief of sinners. On the Cross, in accordance with the Torah (Deuteronomy 21.21-23), Christ becomes accursed, a curse for us; He shares fully in the alienation of sinners from God. That God in Christ fully identifies Himself with sinners, and on the Cross shares in their alienation from God, and is raised from the death that is the fruit of that alienation, is central to faith in Christ.
In that case, God is so unlike us, that God’s “notion” of good may be what we call evil, and contrariwise. What we call murder may be pleasing to God, and what we reject as deceit may be what God calls truth. But if that so, how can we tell God from the devil ? If God is not far better than man in every way, God is not worthy of worship.
This God of hate is not the God of the NT.
I know for a fact that God hates sin. How could he love the evil someone does? It's impossible for Him because He's good.
How are people able to love sinners and doesn't care about their sin friends family know you aren't perfect and they know your flaws are you more holier than God? Are you more loving?
Consider this question: What comes first - the love of God for the sinner or the sinner's repentance?
There is no verse in the Bible with the words ‘God hates sinners’. If God hates all sinners then surely He hates all mankind for all are sinners and are sinning; believers in Jesus and non-believers. See Rom 3:7&10&21; 1 John 1:8&10; 1 Kings 8:46; Ecc 7:20; 1 Cor 8:12; 1 Tim 5:20; 1 John 2:1; Gal 2:15&17; Jas 4:8; Amos 9:10; Num 32:14.
For those people who God hates, see Ps 5:5; Ps 11:5; Prov 6:16-18. These verses do not make a distiction between believers and non-believers. Note Ps 5 - ALL workers. Does that also mean that God hates all people?
We must not confuse wrath with hate. God’s wrath are on all those who do not believe in Jesus - John 3:36 - the children of disobedience - Ef 2:5; Rom 1:18.
The Bible do have verses that shows that God loves all sinners: John 3:16; Rom 5:9; Ef 2:4&5.
@@GM-uy3cm Are the any Bible verses to support this statement? John 3:16 says He loved the world and gave his Son. Thus He loved before He gave His Son for sinners. Ef 2:4&5 says He loved us when we were still dead. Rom 5:8 says he proved His love by dying for us when we were yet sinners.
@Mr. R Absolutely true. And so also is His mercy and love for us: Eph 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us,
@@johannieman4697 The problem is ...you are only considering the 2nd Testament to define the nature of the GOD of Israel...this is a problem, because you cannot truly understand the GOD of Israel from reading the 2nd Testament...you must consider the 1st Testament. Notice that all of the "love of sinner" concepts are only in the 2nd Testament.
There are verses that state that God hates sinners.
In Psalm 5.5 , the scripture states that God hates all workers of iniquity. And I quote,
Psalm 5.5 , "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity."
I would suggest doing an online search of every time the word "hate" is mentioned in the KJV Bible.
@@spiritualisrael007 You quoted Ps 5:5 correctly. That is my whole point; when one says the the Bible says then quote the Bible and not give one's understanding. This verse does not say 'hate sinners' but 'ALL workers of iniquity'. 'ALL' would then include anyone, born again or not, that does acts of iniquity. You can search the Bible for a verse with the words 'God, hate, sinners' and will not find one.
5 And I heard the angel in charge of the waters say, "Just are you, O Holy One, who is and who was, for you brought these judgments.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and you have given them blood to drink. It is what they deserve!"
7 And I heard the altar saying, "Yes, Lord God the Almighty, true and just are your judgments!"
8 The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and it was allowed to scorch people with fire.
9 They were scorched by the fierce heat, and they cursed the name of God who had power over these plagues. They did not repent and give him glory. (Revelation 16:5, ESV)
I love it. I love the message. Very edifying.
I'd prefer a non biblical message that says i can party all week and drag my butt into church just long enough to get a good nap and rest up for another week. Hoping to learn nothing about my sin and how I need salvation and repentance :)
You love this ? Is there any love going on in this speech
For God so LOVED the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever should believe in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
@@rubenthompson5900 but gift of God is Life eternal
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 3:18,36 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=John%203:18,36&version=KJV
And “world” means…….?
You.
@@TheJoker-uy6tj I’m a world?
This is incorrect: Romans 5:8 "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (NIV). While we were sinners God demonstrated his own love for us. WHILE WE WERE SINNERS. In other words, God loved us while we were in rebellion to him. How else can you interpret what Paul is saying here?
Romans 5:8 is true. Yet Psalm 5:5 is also true: "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity." The God that loves people is the same God that hates people. It is possible for God to love and hate, perhaps at the same time. Both are true, because the Bible says so.
Romans 1:32
ESVThough they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
We all have heard that God loves The sinner, but hates The sin. But God would have to hate the person sinning , sin would not exist without a person who sins. He destroy The person in His judgment, not just The sin .
Listen, there is truth in here, but lies also.
His analogy of the flood, using it to. Prove God hates sinners, is Operating from another manor of spirit... Notice, after the flood God was grieved. Why would he be grieved? because he loves mankind, but they were wicked. God didn't make a mistake we know this. GOD can exercise judgment and still be grieved because he is love. A human judge will do the same, he make take pity on the accused but Justice calls for punishment. The. Judge can be loving and still send people to electric chair. Don't define God by his punishments tim.
So Tim is taking this out of context, this analogy shouldn't be used to prove hatred, but rather how God can be loving and still punish. God was angry because he is JUST, not because he is hate. His initial dealing with these people was to love them, to cherish them, God's nature is to love and give. But they became wicked and Gods anger grew. And yes God can be provoked to Hate. But judgment and hatred are results of sin, but his nature is Love
I know what you are saying Lloyd. So much hate and no love. It's like I am nailed to the Cross with Jesus.
His nature is Holiness, not love
Nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus Amen ✝️❤️
This is false, or is worded incorrectly we are all sinners, no man is righteous, and if god hates all sinners he would hate all of us, I don't think God hates us if he sent his son! if god really hates us he wouldn't have sent his son
If god loved us, he wouldn’t care whether we love him or not, he would do the things for the sake of making us happy as possible but no, god is so full of himself, he wants us to serve him even though he could just do it himself! Our god is so cursed!
@@KevinKurzsartdisplay I don’t know who you are associating along side you by saying our god, I know you aren’t speaking of Christ Jesus, God of Israel. You don’t understand, but proclaim boldly with your chest false things regarding God
@@Bornagainroger, god is indeed an egotistical tyrant! He doesn’t love us as living people, he loves us as property.
@@KevinKurzsartdisplay you’re not right in the head
@@Bornagainroger are you a Christian?
4 For you are not a God who delights in wickedness; evil may not dwell with you.
5 The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers.
6 You destroy those who speak lies; the LORD abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:4, ESV)
Hello, I’ve been going through a hard seasons where I fell into deep sins as well as a lot of spiritual attacks from the enemy. At times it was hard to tell if it was Gods anger on me or the devil hurting me. It has been going on for some time. When I first got a better understanding of God, I heard different ways of describing Him but I always kept that any revelation of God Jesus Christ is in the word. I have read the word and wanted to really seek and understand who He is and who Jesus is and what He did. I went through seasons of also questioning feeling if I was truly saved. I knew it is by faith but I was still so confused and fell into work’s ignorantly. To this day, I am still a bit confused as to if I truly received Christ or if I’m deceived. I feel hopeless like I was denied salvation when I asked Jesus in prayer to help me understand His word. It’s hard to have faith when I’m not sure who I’m believing because I feel as a result of being ignorant and even not commune with believers in a church for a while to grow spiritually, I was a target for the enemy to come with deceptions and lies that really harmed me. I became so discouraged I just stopped praying, reading the Bible and I just gave up to a degree in seeking Jesus. I feel this may be that I simply don’t understand the Gospel and that I was deceived to think I believed. I still don’t understand the true God. Is He mad at me? Does He hate me? Does He not want to save me. I even went as far as to curse at Him saying it was His fault because I was just so mad and I know that was wrong to have done all that. I feel so tired and I still haven’t been able to experience any freedom and what is so good about the good news. Perhaps I went through so much sorrow from feeling deeply hated by even Jesus Christ that that I depressed my spirit heavily...
I'm in your same boat
@Selim Vasquez-Lopez what happens when your desire and love are gone because of going through this?
@Selim Vasquez-Lopez please do my whole life came crumbling down after finding out I might be an apostate
Definitely a good sign if you care about your relationship with God. Being around others that love God and His Word is important. Get everything that is bad out of your house(bad movies, music,etc). Sit down and read the Bible each morning starting with the book of John. God has saved sinners far worse than you. He loves to save to lost. We all are. Repent and move forward with God's promise :)
We don’t know the depths of God’s love. He is love! John 3:16 For God so loved the world. All that God has provided is borne out of love. He makes the rain and sun to fall and shine on all, not only believers. The question is, do we acknowledge, thank, worship and ultimately love Him?! John 14:15 clearly says, if we love Him we’ll keep His commandments and He’ll love us back. So, there’s a general love for everyone, but a specific love for true believers.
But yeah John three chapter chapter 3 verse 16 is the most popular person in the Bible, but 20 versus later, the most neglected Verse in the Bible. Read John 3:36 before John 3:16.
He that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 3:36 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=John%203:36&version=KJV
Don't ignore the rest of the Bible. He loved which is why He made a way for sinners. If you repent, you're good. If not, His wrath "abides on you".
How is God hate if God is love? It doesn’t make any sense.
LaLa Smith I encourage you to do a study on the attributes of God. We can’t think of God like a man
Okay. I know God hates evil and hates Satan but people are made from his image
To love something you have to hate it's opposite. What's hard to understand? I can't love children and love what hurts them. I have to hate what hurts them. Logic 101
God loves everyone even sinners but hates the sin LaLa don't listen to false teachings telling you otherwise. He loved the world so much he sent his only begotten son for it. He sustains all things in existence and could not sustain in existence what he hates. He cannot hate what he created or he would not have created it. He did not create sin he created humans. He loves sinners as we are taught to do. If he didn't love sinners but we were told to that would make God a hypocrige which he is not. We are to be examples of God's forgiveness and love. The idea God hates sinners is a heresy.
God bless
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Roman 5 : 8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
John 4:10 - Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins. ( I.e. while we were still sinners )
Luke 6 : 31 - 38 'And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them. “If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil
The idea that God only died for the elect is a Calvinist invention and hideous to true church teaching.
God doesn't send anyone to hell my friend. People choose to go there of their own free choosing against his will. It is impossible for God to hate his own creation for nothing is evil in and of its own nature but obviously sin is evil but sin is merely a privation of some good a thing ought to have. God is opposed to sin because sin is a contamination or privation if you will of what we are supposed to have it is not a created thing unlike us. So you are not sin you are a human tainted by sin whom he loves and wants to set free from that sin.
The sinner is wicked and it’s heart devises wicked plans . The messiah came for the Sinners and sick right . So those who abide in Christ and His word in Him become righteous in their life . We are ought to live righteously. So if we know Christ are we still sick and a sinner ? No we are healed and made a new creation in Him. Scripture is clear that those who sin will not inherit Eternal Life and sinners do wicked things that are an abomination to Him so how could he could He love people who do abominable things against Him .
Does God hate anyone? The answer is yes.
Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity."
Psalm 11:5, "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates."
Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them."
Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil, 19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."
Hosea 9:15, "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels."
The sobering fact is that God is so holy and righteous that He hates the sinner (Psalm 5:5; Lev. 20:23; Prov. 6:16-19; Hos. 9:15). Some say that we should say that God only hates the sin but loves the sinner. But, the above scriptures speak contrary to that. But it is also true that He is love (1 John 4:8). It is better to accept the love of God found in Jesus than to reject it and suffer His wrath.
This is Sound Doctrine!
thank you for this.
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people.
The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV)
How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says.
The text says that God hates the sinner.
“you hate all evildoers.” (v.5)
“the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
The Lord examines the righteous,
but the wicked, those who love violence,
he hates with a passion. - Psalm 11:5
Christoph Gouws
exactly. thank you for this.
No wonder your messed up....come out of that satanic book. God loves their souls hates their sins. God wants none to perish. He sent His only begotten Son Jesus who was sacrificed for their sins, sickness, etc...cause God Love's all & wants none to perish. Yes they must Repent & turn to God Almighty or yes they will face God's Wrath.
What satanic book? The Bible?
Peace in Jesus Christ
you telling me that i am messed up is not a Christian thing to do. Can you imagine Jesus telling people that they are messed up? NO. some of the fruits of the spirit is patience and gentleness. you telling me that your blood is boiling is something demonic. we are all just trying to learn about God. it doesn't seem like you are at peace if your blood is boiling. be patient and let's learn from each other as opposed to getting mad which is not Christian like at all. stop allowing Satan to influence your communication with your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. calm down.
Amen Holy Holy Holy tim conway ur a hell Fire🔥 preacher ty for not sugar coating not many will enter the kingdom of God im Arch Angel
Heb 13:1-2
Ps 91:11
Ps 103:20
Hallelujah! Beat THOSE sinners!!!!!
While we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Greater love has no man than this that he lay down his life for his friends.
I get your point but the just judgement of God is often long delayed as he waits for obedience. To say that He hates the sinner when he gave Himself in love for sinners is not a good exposition of what the Bible actually says
Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
This is some good truth right here! May God lead us all to repentance and help us with our willful sins
Only question I have is, God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son, whosoever believe in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life, so did he die for us because he loved us or hate us ? 🤔....Im a bit confused...
TELL ME WHY!!
And it is said while we were YET SINNERS, he died for us!! Like.... What's going on!!...
And so parents love their kids and hate what they DO, yet when we sin, God HATES us?
I feel like people don't understand what they are saying when they say God hates sinners.
Jesus died so God’s wrath could be satisfied
@@rubenthompson5900 of our sin
God's wrath towards our sin. But Jesus also died because God loved us very much. God would be just in destroying, but He loves us. Jesus died so God can be both Just and the Justifier of the wicked
@@nyambsdeborah8954 God is holy, righteous, just, perfect and right.
All humans are the exact opposite of those things.
Because of that, we all deserve to be sent to hell forever, and we all will be sent to hell by default
@@rubenthompson5900 God is not sending us to hell. We all deserve hell by default but because of Christ we won't receive it.
Jesus taught us to love our enemies. Jesus walked among sinners all the time. Jesus loved them, and forgave their sins. Jesus is THE son of God.
Saying that God hates sinners is a blasphemy.
The scriptures say that God hates a false witness, so clearly God hates that sinner, so it cannot be blasphemy to say that God hates sinners unless scripture itself is blasphemy. Jesus said scripture cannot be broken, so God does hate at least some sinners. Instead, we should ask: Is it possible for God to justifiably hate someone and yet simultaneously love them? Evidently yes! God hates AND loves sinners. How deep is the love of God that can press through His own hatred: For while we were yet sinners, hated in God's holy eyes, Christ died for us to cover over the sin that made us hated in the eyes of God. The height and width and depth and breadth of the love of God cannot be fully grasped until we recognize the hatred of God. "Love must be sincere: Hate what is evil. Cling to what is good." Hatred is a necessary component of sincere love: God exhibits this tension perfectly. The rest of us have much to learn.
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If god IS love (love =god) then, how can he feel hate in any capacity?
@@CRAFTE.D Because true love is not the absence of hate, but the right use of it. Someone who loves children would, in all honesty, hate evil people who molest or kill children. God defines love; we don't. The same Bible that says "God is love" (1 John 4:8) also says that God hates people who love violence (Psalm 11.5), that God hates people who sacrifice children to Moloch (Lev 20:23), and that God hates people who destroy the innocent by bearing false witness against them (Prov 6:19). It's really not that difficult if you realize that God can hate violent abusers and yet simultaneously love the world enough to provide for sinners to be atoned (John 3:16). It's the same way that you might have a theoretical love for child abusers (a love that desires them to be transformed) while also having an effectual hatred of them (a "hatred" that desires justice to render them incapable of harming children again). For a truly loving person, justified hatred is not incompatible with genuine love.
Trump Prophecies
I see.
A god who hates his “enemies” would be far inferior to all Christians, who are commanded to love theirs. He sounds more like the Muslim god, “the best of deceivers”, practicing taqiyya in order to cheat Christians into thinking he loves them.
This nightmare god is not the god described here:
“6For while we were yet weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7For one will hardly die for a righteous man. Yet perhaps for a righteous person someone would even dare to die. 8 *But God commends his own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us* . 9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we will be saved from God's wrath through him. 10For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we will be saved by his life. 11Not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.”
www.biblehub.com/web/romans/5.htm
I’m finding it very hard to love a god that hates me, so I guess I’m going to Hell.
Steve Tucker he loved you so much he took the punishment you deserved on the cross
You are considered a reprobate. Narrow is the path to heaven, and it's not for you.
@@johnkim8259 YES! HE is the reprobate and YOU ARE PERFECTLY RIGHTEOUS!!! How typical.
I'm a rational thinking Christian here. I know for a fact that God himself does not hate, he loves. He teaches, he watches, he doesn't hate; but he doesn't want you to sin, either. If you find yourself sinning for whatever reason or possible mistake, it is totally fine to ask Jesus for forgiveness. If I sin, I pray and ask for forgiveness. I don't know why other fellow Christians make a big deal out of it, humans make mistakes and God knows that. But don't sin, I try to keep that in mind. Asking for forgiveness also makes me feel better as a person in general. And I will always say this, love the sinner, not the sin! Also, I can guarantee you that you aren't going to hell, none of us are. :)
@@von111 I am. Don't you know that the Church of Christ teaches that salvation is conditional upon baptism? I was never saved according to their doctrine. I have been waiting for death for the last 20 years in deep depression.
This does not sound like the god I know. We did not live in those times. And I feel as if we are living in the New Testament.. however I was taught that God does not hate and we shall also not hate.
Hello, you’re right. God does not hate anyone in the sense of the opposite of love. Hate was used in scriptures to show your preference of something over another thing. In Scripture, it signifies to love less.
“If any man come to me, and hate not father and mother, “c. Luke 14.
“He that spareth the rod, hateth his son.” Prov. 13.
It is not meant to be taken at face value which this guy is doing.
You are a worker of iniquity
Why we were yet sinners Christ died for us. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son
Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever.
@adam_4_18 then?
@Collin Lutz study up on repentance. That is the key. Simple turning away from sin. Not perfection, but wanting to do what is right in God's eyes
We still have to repent
according to the bible what world is he talking about Isaiah 45/17 but Israel shall be saved by the most high with an everlasting salvation ye shall not be ashamed or disgraced world without ends that's the world unless he name some other world
Okay, we need to get some balance here. Yes, the Bible talks about the hatred of God and the wrath of God and, yes, we need to fear Him. But we need to balance this out with the truth of God's undeserved love. Consider the following:
Romans 5:8 "God shows His LOVE for us in that, WHILE WE WERE STILL SINNERS, Christ died for us"
Ephesians 2:4-5 (after Paul has declared all mankind obejects of wrath): "But God, being rich in mercy, BECAUSE OF THE GREAT LOVE WITH WHICH HE LOVED US, EVEN WHEN WE WERE DEAD IN TRESPASSES, made us alive together with Christ"
1 John 4:10 "In this is love, NOT THAT WE HAVE LOVED GOD BUT THAT HE LOVED US and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins"
If God does not love the sinner then these verses are a lie and we are without hope. This does not minimise the hatred of God against sin, not reality of judgement or hellfire but sometimes, in my view, reformed preachers (of whom I am one) can neglect the balance that the Bible itself gives.
Apparent ole Tim doesn’t believe in the good news...if you listen to him, your life will be an undoing cycle of sin and guilt.
I have NO GOOD , APART FROM CHRIST, from The HOLY spirit of God, from father God, no good, no good in me-only good within me is the Simple knowledge I have of Christ and he was my sacrifice and changed my life saved my life and I am nothing but a vile filthy sinner saved by the mighty perfect grace of GOD and his redemptive plan to bring a people to himself my heart now finds ultimate rest and peace in GOD.
For Christ came down to raise me up, he died so I could live now eternity I shall forever praise your name and worship your GLORY
It does not make any sense. Give me just 1 human being without sin (except Jesus). Just one ! If God hates sinners, He hates to whole humanity.
God permits calamities in our life with the purpose to test us.
Remember Jobs, when Satan asked God to destroy him. All evil things are permitted by God to test us.
God permits sins to test us?
"Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God," for God cannot be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one.
" (James 1:13)
@@fikir-fikir1938 If you read the book of Job you will see that all temptations suffered by Job were permitted by God. In the first scenario Satan asked to God to destroy all material things in job´s life (family, properties...) (Job 1:6-12) and God permitted Satan to do that; then in the second scenario Satan asked God again to attack Job and God said, ok you can destroy his health but keep him alive (Job 2:1-6). In both situations Satan asked God to attack and God gave to him permission to do that. James is not lying when he said God "himself tempts no one", however Satan is day and night accusing humans and receiving God´s permission to tempt us. (revelation 12:10)
@@lucasmelo-zq4hs About Job, the temptations were permitted by God, not because God wanted to test Job. It was satan who asked permission to test Job. For satan said that Job will abandon God if he was to receive calamities (Job 1:9-10; 2:4-5). And God permitted satan to test Job to prove a point, that is, Job will persevere in his faith no matter what.
And, if we read the Book of Job carefully, what God permitted were not sins, but calamities. But you said "God permits *sins* in our life with the purpose to test us."
So, no, sins are not permitted for God to test us, an it's stated clearly in James 1:13.
@@fikir-fikir1938 You are correct. I expressed myself incorrectly. God permits calamities in our life, not sins. I also corrected the sentence above. I expressed myself in a wrong way.
I agree with you. It is clear in the Bible that God hates sin. We can see that in Noah, Sodom, Gomorrah ... I really would like to understand why God permits to have Satan in his presence, attacking us day and night. What is your opinion about this "close" relationship between two enemies (God and Satan)? What do you think is God´s purpose with this relationship?
@@lucasmelo-zq4hs Everything God does, is for His glory. As we read the Book of Job, in the end, Job's suffering glorifies God. How? It proves God words that Job will persevere. So, to answer your question, God permits satan to attack us because at the end, He will be glorified.
God is to be GREATLY feared
Why did god die for sinners? Because he loves them. If we find ourselves reading out of the Old Testament without understanding the New Testament we will not understand the Bible and sadly this guys is confused.
Let him be confused all he wants. It's all bull
@@thepanda1044 ruclips.net/video/SKHaHEIcHKY/видео.html
It's because it's a lie
@@thepanda1044 It's a lie stop believing this ⬇️
Rom. 8 Verses 38 to 39
[38] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [39] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@@justinetiberio8137 I'm aware of what the Bible says so no need to preach it to me. I don't believe in it. It's another book of mythology. And I have no reason to believe in it. And you'll never convince me to believe in it. So don't try to.
He says to cease from evil. Repent of sin we need to stop sinning
Why create man if God was just going to hate most of us?
You will not be satisfied with any answer until you know who God is. He is not a man and does not behave like a man.
I thought god made man in his own image?
He doesn't, this guys shooting off the mouth his wrong interpretation of scripture. Preacher who preaches bullshit, hes no man of God.
If you feel discouraged and defeated by this video, please read on...
A person dear to me who watched this, now believes he is eternally doomed to hell with no way out.
Earnestly seeking God, he heard this and is now left without hope.
Such tragedy when the nature and the ways of God is distorted.
The enemy's racket that only serves his agenda.
All praises be to God Almighty, please know that this is not the gospel message, instead it dangerously omits the powerful truth of Jesus' last exhortation to His disciples - teach ALL things.
Please know that there is HOPE, REDEMPTION, FORGIVENESS, and ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ!
Please note in the Old Testament:
Ezekiel 18 (NKJV)
21 “But if a WICKED man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
22 NONE of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live.
23 Do I have ANY pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God,
“and not that he should turn from his ways and live?
Our Creator God is NOT an angry monster seeking to destroy.
In fact, after the flood, He made covenant with HIMSELF through the rainbow as a reminder to Himself that He would never send a global flood again to destroy humanity.
The rainbow is not a sign for humans;
it is a sign for Himself as a reminder of His own covenant of LIFE and PEACE with us available through Jesus Christ.
PLEASE read Romans 8 - there is NO condemnation in Christ Jesus, and NOTHING can ever separate you from God's love through Jesus Christ.
He desires for everyone to repent, turn their hearts to Him and receive forgiveness and eternal life through His Son Jesus Christ.
Our Creator God is perfect LOVE - demonstrated by Him making the ultimate sacrifice in order for humanity to receive eternal life as a free, unearned GIFT through the death and resurrection of His Son.
God's desire is for ALL to join His family into all of eternity, adopted children of God.
And Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE exactly because He is the only key to the Father having paid in our stead the penalty of death (wrath of God satisfied) that we all deserve for our sins.
Matthew 28 (NKJV)
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
What did Jesus Christ teach?
Romans 3 (NKJV)
23 for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,
26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
Romans 6 (NKJV)
23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also,
30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith.
John 3 (NKJV)
16 For God so LOVED the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son,
that WHOEVER believes in Him should NOT perish but have everlasting life.
1 Thessalonians 5 (NKJV)
9 For God did NOT appoint us to wrath,
but to obtain SALVATION through our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.
Romans 5:8-9 (NKJV)
8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were STILL sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be SAVED from WRATH through Him.
Mercy triumphs over judgment. (James 2:13, NKJV)
SO much more to say...
But it would be best if the author of this video would have the Godly courage to either:
1. Preach the whole gospel and bring LIFE and HOPE to all those who are so deeply discouraged by this message, or
2. If in fact this was part of a longer message that contained the whole gospel giving HOPE through Jesus Christ, please remove this video.
I agree...but dude should've mentioned the importance of repentance, he makes it seem as though God just hates us.... period
This is an excerpt from the full sermon, "The Rarity of Christ's Love" in which far more is mentioned: ruclips.net/video/LDvGf-mCUpc/видео.html
Only a short video brother.
@@illbehonest funny you choose this clip tho isnt it?
If you feel discouraged and defeated by this video, please read on...
A person dear to me who watched this, now believes he is eternally doomed to hell with no way out.
Earnestly seeking God, he heard this and is now left without hope.
Such tragedy when the nature and the ways of God is distorted.
The enemy's racket that only serves his agenda.
All praises be to God Almighty, please know that this is not the gospel message, instead it dangerously omits the powerful truth of Jesus' last exhortation to His disciples - teach ALL things.
Please know that there is HOPE, REDEMPTION, FORGIVENESS, and ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ!
Please note in the Old Testament:
Ezekiel 18 (NKJV)
21 “But if a WICKED man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
22 NONE of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live.
23 Do I have ANY pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God,
“and not that he should turn from his ways and live?
Our Creator God is NOT an angry monster seeking to destroy.
In fact, after the flood, He made covenant with HIMSELF through the rainbow as a reminder to Himself that He would never send a global flood again to destroy humanity.
The rainbow is not a sign for humans;
it is a sign for Himself as a reminder of His own covenant of LIFE and PEACE with us available through Jesus Christ.
PLEASE read Romans 8 - there is NO condemnation in Christ Jesus, and NOTHING can ever separate you from God's love through Jesus Christ.
He desires for everyone to repent, turn their hearts to Him and receive forgiveness and eternal life through His Son Jesus Christ.
Our Creator God is perfect LOVE - demonstrated by Him making the ultimate sacrifice in order for humanity to receive eternal life as a free, unearned GIFT through the death and resurrection of His Son.
God's desire is for ALL to join His family into all of eternity, adopted children of God.
And Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE exactly because He is the only key to the Father having paid in our stead the penalty of death (wrath of God satisfied) that we all deserve for our sins.
Matthew 28 (NKJV)
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
What did Jesus Christ teach?
Romans 3 (NKJV)
23 for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,
26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
Romans 6 (NKJV)
23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also,
30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith.
John 3 (NKJV)
16 For God so LOVED the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son,
that WHOEVER believes in Him should NOT perish but have everlasting life.
1 Thessalonians 5 (NKJV)
9 For God did NOT appoint us to wrath,
but to obtain SALVATION through our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.
Romans 5:8-9 (NKJV)
8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were STILL sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be SAVED from WRATH through Him.
Mercy triumphs over judgment. (James 2:13, NKJV)
SO much more to say...
But it would be best if the author of this video would have the Godly courage to either:
1. Preach the whole gospel and bring LIFE and HOPE to all those who are so deeply discouraged by this message, or
2. If in fact this was part of a longer message that contained the whole gospel giving HOPE through Jesus Christ, please remove this video.
You're missing a key component: hate in the original Greek means to LOVE LESS. We are to HATE ourselves and our families according to Jesus... Hate isn't what the world says it is Barry's behind most hate, there is so much passion behind it, it had to stem from somewhere (usually love). I have felt so much pain from my mother, I have even hated her..... But i love her though.... We gotta "rightly divide the word of truth" (1 or 2 Timothy)
Love less, like cast into the lake of fire? I'd prefer to repent and be loved a little more than that
@Yena to clarify, are you saying God loves the wicked? Does that include man or satan also? Not being ridiculous here. Want to find your definition of God being love
@Yena I love the ezekiel 33 verse! Thanks. which greek word are you using? Also, which verse saying God hates are you referring to? Haven't watched this video for a while and don't recall. Miseo is a greek word for hate and it means hate and detest. I want to make sure we are in disagreement and not just misunderstanding
What word are you using in greek for "hate"? Miseo is the greek word used and it means "hate, detest". Here is the strongs μισέω miséō, mis-eh'-o; from a primary μῖσος mîsos (hatred); to detest (especially to persecute); by extension, to love less:-hate(-ful).
But God demonstrated His love in that while we were still His enemies, Christ died for us.
The human psyche is very complex. Capable of more than one emotion or self expression at the same time. How much more so God. It is possible for God to hate, yet still have some underlying love for someone. He still desires even the most wicked sinner to repent, indicating love. God still loves
But if anyone prays wrong, you god torments humans forever. Now that is LOVE.
@Glitzy 145 Just like all middle eastern religions, they choose what ever they want.
But that’s is NOT the tone of this video.
Psalm 11:5 The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.
Hosea 9:15 Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal; there I began to hate them. Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of my house. I will love them no more; all their princes are rebels.
Everyone who thinks that God loves everyone unconditionally and doesn't hate doesn't understand love or hate. Love is not a warm fuzzy feeling, it's actionable. It's patient, kind, longsuffering...
1 Corinthians 14: 4-8 It doesn't say love is a feeling, love is happiness. Love may cause those things, but those things are not love. So God can still show his love for us by sending Jesus down to suffer His wrath in our stead, without being wrong in hating wicked evil abominable people.
Consider the rich man who came to God, who had not made Jesus is Lord but was given over to money. In Mark 10:21 we read: "Jesus looked at him and LOVED HIM" Did this man ever make a commitment? We are not told. We are just told that Jesus loved him even in his idolatry.
Let us be clear - God's wrath, judgement and hell are all real. But any sermon needs to be balanced and the whole of Scripture must be taken into account. This clip does not do that.
@endtimesareuponus8930 so The Lord God hates those that don't believe in/reject Him... Well I dont blame Him we all are trash without Christ
A great example of God loving a sinner. And who knows maybe he did repent. Nicodemus did.
So if God has a perfect nature, why create sinful humans? Reason tells me he should just remain has he is and not create humans
God did not create sinful humans. He created humans who were perfect before they fell into the first sin. But because he loves us so much, he chose to die for us. Yes he hates sin and the sinner but he also loves his creation which is why he chose the cross. The cross was His wrath. He took the place of the sinner so that we dont have to endure his wrath which is what we all deserve. This is why the Cross and resurrection is so powerful
@@meganbunch8271 I respectfully disagree. If God is omnicent then he fore knew we gonna sin because though he gave humans free will. He knew they gonna sin. One my say am just human, but I think the better think would have to not provide the option of fruit at Eden. By so doing he did to sucrifice himself for himself because of something which he did
@@evanskip1 there is no way of knowing why God does certain things. He gave us free will to choose to obey Him or not which shows us love but we decided to go against that love by choosing to disobey.
@@evanskip1 the worst part about it. Is that he allowed satan to come in the garden. He gave the devil dominion over us. Isn’t that cruel
He didn't. He created a human with free will because a robot loving you is not very.... well, loving
We would only sin because we were born with the sin nature or flesh. We didn't ask to be born,we had no free will to be born into sin. We weren't born like Adam without sin,and made a choice. I understand you can't answer this question,but to make excuses and give ridiculos answers doesn't help anyone understand better. It says in the bible Ezekiel 18 1-19 that the son shouldn't be held accountable for the father's sin. But that is exactly what is happening
So if I’m not perfectly sinless God hates me? So there’s absolutely no hope for me?
To answer your first question, yes. And the second, there's hope in the sinless, blameless and perfect lamb of God. The Lord Jesus Christ. We can't save ourselves. But Jesus can
@@emiliobeltran5252 very contradicting when this ministry has pastors in two documentaries where they have mentioned that sinless perfection is heresy…
These guys are false teachers. Look up Tim Henderson
There is no hope if you listen to this teaching,yes it is true that God hate sin and sin separates from God but He loves us that why He send His one and only son for us to die on the cross and rose from the dead.
No. Only if you aren't repentant. Look at the story of the thieves on the cross
I studied religion when I was in the seminary and believe me the only thing that made me distrust God is the Bible itself once you start reading and start to make sense of the scriptures is when you realise that we have a cruel GOd
Why is that? Maybe you are reading things out of context
You were either asleep at seminary or you went to a crappy seminary. Try reading the Bible. You'll figure out giving His son for those that crucified Him was not cruel
Glory to GOD. Hallelujah.!
if it wasn't for Jesus, God would hate everyone. think about it.
Nope. Correction is needed. If it wasn't for Jesus, God couldn't justly show loving actions towards sinners. But he could certainly still pity and want them to be better. He could still want to save them. THAT LOVE IS WHY JESUS WAS SENT.
the word "hate" is used by Jesus in the bible at different times.
And? We are clearly comanded to love and do everythimg oit of it. Because love is good.
we are talking about totally different things. God doesn't want His children to be confrontational with each other. are we siblings in Christ or not?
Not just family in christ: "Love your enemies. Pray for those you persecute you." "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to You? Even Sinners do that."
Do you treat your own children that you brought into this world this way? Are they your children of wrath? Are you going to torment then, not if but when they make mistakes? Maybe I am crazy but, it seems like that would be a strang way to show love.
Man are bent against God. They rather disobey and rebel on their way to hell than to submit their life to Christ. They can’t draw near God and WILL not
Justice demands your own children, when knowingly doing wrong, must be accountable. Don't compare our sinful ways to God. How many would let their child off if they raped and murdered someone? God doesn't torment. He made a way to be with Him. It's repentance. If we choose to live in our sin, we choose to spend eternity apart from God. That isn't His fault
You don't understand repentance. Jesus taught one main message. Repent or perish
Proverbs 13:24 NKJV
[24] He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.