#1 Let's Play Civ 6 Hungary - Matthias Corvinus - Civilization VI Gathering Storm
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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Hello there Mr McWhiskey. Just wanted to say, I have been binging your Let's Plays during Chemo and it has made the whole process SO much easier. Keep making great content and we will keep watching my friend.
nZed Good luck! 🍀
I hope you recover quickly
Good luck and I hope you have a quick recovery!
I know it’s late but goodluck
Best of luck to you
I cannot explain my emotion when I heard you complaining about that start. I would kill for a spot with 5 tiles eligible for Pearl of the Danube and a Geothermal Fissure within 3 tiles. And a natural wonder.
Tbh, I think you're playing Hungary too much like a normal civ. I have already won 3 games as Hungary on deity and their strength is that they can conquer the world WITHOUT focusing on military. The play is to use the extra production towards districts across rivers to sim city really quickly towards campuses and commercial hubs and then just levy city states. Rush for iron at the beginning to make sure you can get early swordsmen. I was able to win a conquest deity game only building 3 of my own units and I was suzerain of all city states by the midgame. Even in the case that there is no good target for your levied units you still get the extra envoys and you can use their units extra movement to rapidly explore the map and clear barb camps for gold. IMO Hungary are OP after my three games with them.
Jeremy Dont need to rush iron as upgrading troops from city states cost nothing, 0 Gold, 0 Iron.
@@madmartigan1498 sorry I mean the tech not the resource
Jeremy I see, makes sense now. You need the technology to upgrade the troops. Good strategy
Yeah, I've tried this multiple times and ever single time something goes terribly wrong, like the CS being stolen from me leaving me with no army, or every civ in the game declaring war on me.
Its save all your pennies, dont spend anything you dont have to, beeline to swordsman tech, do city-state quests for envoys while hunting barb camps for cash, get Amani as your first governor, and when youre nearly at swordsman tech put Amani in the citystate you have the most envoys in that has not been in a war that her effect will make you suzerain of, levy their troops for a further 2 envoy advantage, upgrade, and curbstomp the everliving crap out of the nearest civ with 6 swordsman while theyre still going "wait, what?" If you can get 2 city states then even better.
Was anybody else screaming: IRON...IRON.... like a lunatic?
Potato, sometimes nerfing your enemies is better than strengthening yourself. You let Shaka get God of the Forge, this could be dangerous.
You deserve a lot more views, great content as always. THANK YOU!
This is pretty informative, just watching you try and talk through how some plays are more optimal than others. Definitely helps me learn
Might have been worth it to cross the river to get 3 +50% to production districts rather than just the 1.
I concur, it's a bonus they have and should've been utilised honestly
Or just one tile down
this, he'll probably be fine tho since Hungary is straight up broken with free swordsmen and free musketmen.
Since he's playing wide, he might not build many districts per city.
Though I'd agree that having 3 boosted district is better than one or two better tile yields.
I'm of the opinion that the +50% production towards districts is not entirely worth changing how you settle your cities, since its only applies to a small amount of the total production your cities will genetate across and entire game. So I'd rather have objectively more optimal cities than play around a small bonus.
Alpine training comes from the Matterhorn natural wonder, not Mount Everest. :)
Yup
During the bit with Everest near the start all I could do was scream "Read damn you!"... "Religious units who move next to Mount Everest ignore Hills for the rest of the game." It only affects Missionaries, Apostles, and Inquisitors
I know right. I am having second thoughts about watching the playthrough. I cant stand watching a lets play where the player doesnt read what is written in black and white on the screen. Also, the city placement... its like he just didnt bother to read what pearl of the danube does.
Your videos almost always cause me to laugh a good deal, and they've been quite informative in helping me get into the game a bit better. Cheers
i can tell everyone whats going to happen. his domination game will quickly become science culture
I'm honestly surprised that you didn't know that "mountain" natural wonders don't actually count as mountains for most things. I think it only affects appeal, tile passability, and maybe Terrace Farms. Doesn't do anything for districts though, which blows. Great video so far!
I think Nat wonders add bonuses to holy sites and theater squares, or at least they do in rise and fall. No campuses though, Potato!
I'm surprised they don't. I never really have mountain natural wonders in my games.
Plus they count as mountains for a lot of other things.
I love disasters. They can create crazy cities. For example in a Maori game I had a 23 pop 200 production desert city.
Crazy..
Did you have Petra in that city?
@@abeke5523 yeah but petra only grants 2food 2production and 2gold which does not account for the 10 food 10 production tiles which were scattered throughout the city
Def a mistake not to Take God of the Forge if you want to do military. Really surprised at that.
I'm not planning on building an early military.
I just realized I learn a lot more by watching others than playing myself.
Bring on the giant death robots!!!!
Hey Potato! Great episode. It's incredibly annoying when I have to double check natural wonders that are "mountains" only to be disappointed that they do not affect campus adjacency bonuses or that they're not aqueduct compatible
Dude, I definitely think you undervalue your start. With Hungary's abilities, you can get tons of super cheap productive districts up and while you do have to deal with a ton of barbs, you are practically isolated from the other civs with mountains, which gives you lots of time to grow before they become aggressive.
I've noticed when I play that barbarian scouts won't take your builder or settler inside your borders if their camp is still alive.
1:50 That is the Matterhorn you are thinking of
Hungary is really good for early military expansion. Bee line on Swordman, then pick amani from 1st goverment, levy military and upgrade all of their warrior into swordman and strike other civilization.
for 1 more hammer you lost 3 district slots for the pearl of danube. but more broadly as hungary the easiest way to win this game is to find 1-2 city states, get the +2 envoys for first envoy and amani and then save gold. Research should aim to get iron. Once you have iron just raise two CS worth of free super swordsmen and conquer your nearest neighbor. after that basically anything is possible. probably the second easiest civ after maori.
I've tried that multiple times with hungary and something always goes catastrophically wrong so I'm averse to the strategy now.
@@PotatoMcWhiskey that would have been fun to watch! the reddit is full of "Hungary OP" posts, and you failing to pull it off would have been an interesting rebuke to them
@@PotatoMcWhiskey Prolly just shit luck, I've seen Marbs video on Hungary, he wasn't on Deity (I think) but he wiped out I think an Immortal AI with a miltiary of just 2 city-states upgraded into swordsmen as well as a single archer unit, the strategy depends on how the AI reacts but it's possible, definetely possible
This just dosen't work reliable on deity. This makes hungary op till emperor or sth like that. I don't understand it anyways, try Ottomans for real absurd warfare.
@@flup350 I only play on Deity, it works like a charm in situations like this where there are at least two CSs right next to the nearest Ai.
I have 800 hours in CIV6 and i picked up 2 things I just never thought of.
[1] I've never used pins before. Going to start using those.
[2] I've never tried to befriend someone that fast. Going to try that next.
As a side ... I've also never tried to spam settlers this early. I tend to go for blocking actions until I get my city center + ancestral hall up. Then spam settlers. Those free workers make it all worth it.
I love this guy, seems like one of my mates.
The very start of the video kind of turns me off. I really enjoy your videos, but a common trope I hear from you (especially in Emporer or Immortal games) is "Oh, in Deity I would've done this" and then proceed to play loosely. I'm all for playing this game to have fun, but from the very start, it seems like you didn't read the most powerful ability this Civ offers. Placing your cities to be maximally effective as a stand-alone city is completely fine if you have 3 cross river tiles to build Campus, Commercial Hub X District on and start powering out infrastructure. That leads you to the mid-game in a position to kill everyone with Black Army and levied units, or just start taking over all city-states with massive gold income. I wouldn't sleep on the power of half off districts and district buildings. This Civ is a powerhouse with that in mind. You are a REALLY GOOD player and your content is great and could be that much better with just a little bit more time taken to make decisions :)
It may be worth it to consider taking time on live stream to pause and reassess the map, state of the game, and strategy every once and a while to make sure you don't lose focus, then for RUclips, you can just cut the fluff and get right back to the gameplay. Well informed decisions with comprehensive gameplay :) Keep going after it, man!
I had the same problem than you with barbarian. There are now two type of games: one where you don't found a single barbarian, and the other where you are dealing with every barbarian ever. I think they messed up the spawn system and they all appear at one place on the map.
Jeremy is right, the challenge is to keep all of the city-states alive and free of occupation around you until you can collect 500 gold or so, and then levy and steamroll your nearest 1 or 2 neighbors. There is literally nothing they can do against your 10-12 buffed kamikaze swordsmen you upgraded for ZERO gold and iron.
you are thinking of the Matterhorn that gives alpine training to regular units
You did it potato you are doing hungry despite most odds. I thought you would play ottomans or england but you pulled threw for the hungry fans. Thank you potato and keep up the good work and i love your chanel. Ps( im the guy that suggested the rome tsl)
zerpderp man sorry to be the spelling police but Hungary*
Just put your campus between two hotspots. :)
Hi! I'm hungarian and i love waching your videos.
Alig várom hogy mindegyes akalommal probál majd kiejteni szavakat Pécs,Győr,Szeged fájni fog.
You started in a great place for Hungary and said it was a bad spot and settles with only 1 tile across a river when you could’ve gotten 6...
I love you potato! I like these quick moves without much debating :3
Missionaries, Inquisitors, and Apostles who move next to Mount Everest ignore Hills for the rest of the game. Matterhorn is the all unit one
That industiral zone at Miskolc tho
Potatoe, will you start making strategy guides for Gathering Storm?
that was a perfect starting position for hungary. 2 places with 3 across-river tiles, 2 lux, 1 mine, 1 farm. focus on gold, make amani jump every 5 turns levying armies, pillage everything with 100% policy, rush to both envoy-bonuses policies as well, obliterate the world congress, win. I bet one could win with one city on deity with some luck. edit: tobacco = highest chance for earth goddess
Played a recent game where there was 13 barb encampments spawned near me. Constant scouts and couldn't move builders and settlers at all.
"It's such a great campus spot! +3!"... Dude, you're sitting next to a +4 site that will not chug out your faith!
He innerly thought of +5, I guess (+2 by geothermal fissure; +1 by standard mountain; +2 by "Everest Mountain tiles" - but it appears like that these don´t count for some reason).
Hey Potato, you used to show the game setup screen and talk about the choices you made to a particular series, is there a reason you've stopped doing that?
I had some major issues recording this episode. So I just started from gameplay
As a Hungarian, I was really excited to play as Hungary. I love the themes in the music and I did manage to win a deity game too. However, based on the first couple games (I played them on Emperor and Immortal too) the Hungarian spawn bias seems to be: "Terrible with some thermal fissures." which makes the early game and especially the first few turns just painful. Maybe I just got really unucky all times I tried, but I rarely got a decent hills or forests spawn. :/
That said, if you can get going, and get one or two city states, you can absolutely slaughter your neighbours, as early as swordsmen.
Discovers barb camp at about 1:14 with a Warrior.....procceds to either not notice or notices and ignores it..... *faceplam*
I'm pretty sure the flat land is to do with most of Hungary being flat, the same way the game puts you next to the Danube every time
So, how about a certain Hungary game that supposedly never happened and definitely didn't involve you getting smashed from 4 sides?
Alpine training: you got the wrong mountain for that. It's the Matterhorn (a mountain in the Swiss Alps) that gives alpine training, not the Mount Everest (Tibet, not in the Alps)
Isn't alpine training awarded by the Matterhorn wonder?
yup, just a brain fart.
Lovely channel mate. X
Oh thank god you picked Hungary next.
Oh lawdie, the levy spam begins.
I stumbled upon your channel I loved the video you earned a sub
Good vid keep it up man love it
Matthias Christmas
if you want a war based one pick patron goddess and get out fast encampments. i usually pick it if earthgoddess is gone
The Matterhorn gives you the bonus you thought of
Hungarian GDR march soon
Győr rhymes with "fur", otherwise the pronounciation was perfect!
regarding the starting position: its exactly the same for me. i get positions where there is literally nothing. out of 5 games i get 3 games which are like that + the change to strategic resources like iron dont help at all
haha, the biggest mountain in the world does not count as a mountain.
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I don't see why you don't like that start location, it has a lot going for it...floodplains and two volcanoes will skyrocket base tile yields, at the cost of destruction, so get liang with reinforced materials in there and profit. Tobacco gives you your pantheon without slotting god king, or faster if you do. Later on, you can get housing and amenities from a dam, and a hydroelectric dam plus a geothermal plant on the geothermal fissure will give the city all the renewable energy it will ever need. I can see a tile in range that can have as many as 5 mines around it for industrial zone adjacency ( 2 of those would need to be in another city however). That single desert tile on its own between the volcanoes is a potential pyramids spot, so you've got the option for that wonder. Theres also a +4 campus spot in range. Overall that start seems pretty decent, ive certainly had far far worse
I am pretty sure that the Warrior isn't a Religious Unit. Just a hunch.
Why not go for god of the forge pantheon, would it not be the best for domination, at least significantly better than the border expansion you went for?
Wait - Everst isn´t counted as a mountain providing adjacency bonusses for a campus? 19:55 Edit: 24:34 there we go XD
if you plan on going domination later, maybe picking oligarchy first for the legacy bonus would've been an idea?
We love you potadaddy!
Religious settlements for pantheon? Lady of the reeds and marshes would have been much better with 20 or so flood plains tiles, +20 production.
If there would be training from the everest it would hymalasian training...? :p
E: I don't understand why we don't see more two cities into ancestral hall since pingala gives us earlier political philosphy now.
Who is the best naval civ? I assume it's Victoria with all the free units, but I was unsure if the Dutch frigates or Ottomans/Vikings land units make them more effective. I know naval powers are weak overall but I like it anyway
Better Nate than lever! Arrgh!
Everyone is complaining about the jersy system, yet i just confused scotish city for my own as teddy
Me being white on blue, Scotland being Blue on White
Lol alpine training for Himalayan mountain
You revealed iron 2 tiles from your capital at turn 40 (11th minute of video) and then complained about a lack of access to iron at turn 62 (21:05). You finally mined the iron at turn 78. Not sure how optimal that was if you intended to go for a domination victory with this domination oriented civ.
Ok.
I saw that iron the entire time.
The complaint was the lack of USEABLE access to iron, that iron is really far out, requiring me to purchase tiles with money I don't have.
Hello thxnfor the video ^^ but damn!! you should definitively built a trader in your so call"builder city" even before the first builder ^^
You got this.
Your capital placement wasn't very good for Hungary's district bonus. This might have been the rare time where you step off the hill to get better district construction.
What difficulty?
99.9% of the time its Deity.
@@PotatoMcWhiskey I figured it's just that the last video I watched of yours you said it was on a lower difficulty cuz the update just came out
@@PotatoMcWhiskey wow what a god!
Why didnt u go for the +4 campus in Gyor, between the two fissures liek u can get at least 2 campuses with plus +4 just with the fissures. Not to mention it's by the river so U get bonus production as well.
He thought Everest is considered a mountain, and thus that place could have been a +5, but it's not. The tile between the 2 fissures doesn't get production boosted, only tiles next to the city that are on the opposite side of a river do. That's why he should have settled the cap one tile west and Győr one tile north, where it would have 5 river tiles around it utilizing the district production bonus.
What a dumb idea to settle on place. You want to use yours boost to production of districts across the river. But you only have one spot instead of 3
What mods do you use so you can have those nice pin icons, showcase yields being worked by passing the mouse over the city?
How long did it take you before you realized it was the Matterhorn that grants Alpine Training?
Eleanor the Annoying! Ha!
Is it just me, or is he ignoring the potential for having a group of ~7 swordsman units with no maintenance cost and 4 squares of movement? Just right there, ripe for the taking?
I tried that before and got shitstomped, keep watching and you'll see why I'm reticent.
I consistently have the AI simply steal the CS away from me when I try stuff like that. So I'm going for a more consistent push.
Whats the map size in this? because when im playing i always get lots of civs near me and no way i can expand this much
Imho, a rather poor play, some bad choices, e.g.:
1. Not crossing the river.
2. Not attacking the barb scout with the slinger but walking around it.
3. Not settling the 2nd city in the river fork which would give 5 bonus district tiles vs. just 2.
I am sure there are many more if I kept watching...
I checked the Maori videos too - similar mistakes.
Watching this might be interesting to noobs, not so much for anyone who knows how to play Civ.
Yes, I love Potato and his vids, but this game (or at least this episode), he made some non optimal plays. I know he doesn't value the unique +50% production ability, but I don't see why. It's not like he would have to give up anything to utilize it. Oh yes, not settling on a hill, but 1 production vs 3 disctricts and buildings boosted by 50% doesn't seem the right move to me. When I played as Hungary I did go for these boosted positions and went for a lot of commercial hubs + markets. With those building faster, my income was crazy early on and it was so easy to levy CS units and roll over enemies with them upgraded.
Do you have the seed of this map and the map setting? I really like it!
What kind of map type are you playing on? Continents>
religious units ignore hills not melee units
Game setup ??? Map type? Diff?
what is the reason for building a builder and reseach animal husbandery with no tiles to improve, u start improving a plain from 1-1 to 2-1 and picking that tiles over ur newly accuried salt which yield 2-1-1 .
u could have build a scout and been looking for more CS and then straigth into a settler
u just spendt 9 turns producing a builder and u gained nothing besides missing out on CS and tribal huts
I dont get it
Simply because my tiles were dogshit. I needed to improve them.
play austria
oh wait
Is it worthb the money
Deity?
nice
Your mouse is kinda weird, looks slow and a bit out of sync. Also, why not settle your capital across the river? It has a lower yield, but you'd be able to build 3 districts faster.
edit: the audio also seems a bit out of sync
I dont have the sync problem..
@@valentin4743 Which one? The sound seems off throughout the video, and the mouse only in some parts(ex.: When potato chooses another government)
Everything seems normal for me..
Mate. You need to read and understand what pearl of the danube does. Your first two cities are placed terribly to use it.
I talked about it.
Pearl of the Danube basically doesn't matter as a bonus for me if I'm going for a domination game since I only need minimal infrastructure.
What mod gives you the decent map pins?
It´s in steam workshop called "Map Tacks" by bszonye
@@schumaster8437 Thanks, I'll look for it.
Stupid start!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Is this diety?