Oh a plot twist 😶 The way I fell in love with that spunky little betta and had it all crumble down within a ten minute video. RIP Barb. Great story telling! The sound effects were funny 😄
I'd fully blame the ammano shrimp. The exact same thing happened to my brother, a female betta just disappeared overnight, same deal, no carcass to be found anywhere. There was an ammano shrimp in that set to too and nothing else
What exactly are you blaming them for? Eating a piece of food they found in their tank? That's their job. They aren't predatory, so you can't really blame them for that
I had to put one of my bettas into solitary confinement because he's a shrimp killer. The shrimps celebrated afterwards by coming out of all their hidey holes!
I thought about adding java moss. But with my track record of plant maintenance, decided against it. When that stuff goes crazy it goes reeeeeaallly crazy! As I have experienced in other tanks. 😅
When you added the assassin snail I went “noooo” 😧 Ramshorns only over populate when overfed, since you never mentioned a population boom I figure you never over fed so it was easy for the assassin snail to pick them off since it was only a few of them. Also they don’t need to breed, they have babies on their own (a singular snail) that’s why they over populate so quickly when there is an abundance of food. Edit: I just remembered that assassin snails also eat shrimp. Usually the weak or old ones but I imagine any shrimp is easy pickings if it’s caught off guard Now with barb, unfortunately bettas REALLY like shrimp. Even the chill ones that seem to ignore their shrimp buddies tend to have a taste for them after tasting a little nibble. Some people have shrimp with their betta for over a year then all I’ve a sudden the shrimp get eaten. Sad for you but barb seemed to really enjoy herself lol (Rip Barb 🕊️) I really enjoyed this video and the visuals were great. Plus it was very calming. 10/10. I hope RUclips recommends another one of your videos in the future
Thank you! Really appreciate the comment. Yeah, I really regretted adding the assassins. Things are going much better now, the tank is thriving and has 7 different types of snails and LOTS of shrimp
Things not normally mentioned about Assassin snails. 1) Much more finicky and subject to peril than any other kind of snail. 2) Loves loves loves eating Ramshorn snails. 3) Kind of shy about eating bladder, pond, and malaysian trumpet snails. though they will chase elephant snails if you decide to get rid of the (plant eating) things. 4) Given enough time and stable enough conditions they will eventually be the only snail in our tank. That could be 2 weeks for a tank with Ramshorns, it could be 12 months for a tank with Malaysian Trumpet snails.
Yeah. Cool part about them though is once all the snails are gone they can still survive on detritus and scavenging food meant to the other creatures. I once saw a girl with a ramshorn infestation add assassin snails. then they became the infestation after eating to well and breeding. Now they just live in her tank happily even without fresh snails to eat
@TheSwiftCreek2 do they eat freshwater limpets too? I've got some with (probably) one of my wood decor, and they really bother me. I want to add a single assassin snail to get rid of them, then give the snail back to my friend. I don't like snails, and the eggs destroy the look of my aquascape, that's why I'm planning to only add one helena snail. I did a good job preventing other species to enter my aquarium by quaranteening the plants, but I didn't boil the wood and the stones before adding them, so somehow limpets found their way in. edit: I can't use pest killers, because I have amanos and neocaridina shrimps in my tank, so I don't want to take a risk
I actually enjoyed your video. I would have been so upset with Barb for eating all the baby shrimps. I once blamed a turtle for eating all my tetras when it was later discovered that it was the baby Manganese cichlid that grown faster than I thought.
Thank you. Yeah, it was annoying, but I can't really blame her for doing what comes natural lol. The babies obviously tasted too good, so she wanted to try the adults.
couldn't find what to watch during lunch and don't have a single regret clicking on this 😂 Rest in peace Barb, however long her life was it was so rich and interesting for her 💙 but yeah probably the shrimp ate her, I've seen a couple people post about nothing but their betta's skeleton being left over after just a few hours/overnight.
I keep finding fish bones in my 10 gallon but haven’t lost a single fish. 😂 I’ve been collecting them all in a pill bottle. I’m hoping one day I can put them all together and figure out what this mystery fish carcass is. Amazing video ❤
That's cool, but weird! Where are they coming from? 😅 Sound like an interesting project, can imagine it will be tough piecing them together though haha. And thank you!🦐💚
For a primary consumer in the tank, I recommend scuds: a micro crustacean that breeds readily, makes a little waste and is a good food source for future betta fish. 😉They’ll do exceptionally well in that guppy grass.
Thanks for the advice. That's the one I haven't tried! I've been putting in daphnia and other micro foods, but they are gone within a day, never around long enough to breed. Will check out scuds! I have different, smaller fish in there now.
@@creatinganecosystem when I had daphnia, they died overnight also, so I can’t tell you anything about them… but if you go with scuds, be sure to throw in some LONG DEAD leaves, and an abundance of the scuds, since there are already fish in there.
@@deathbyfishtanks yeah, it now has lots of decaying leaves at the bottom of the tank, which the shrimp and snails love. I'll definitely give them a go, thank you.
Nooooo haha. Here's what I'd recommend. You could add some moss in, providing you're not lazy like me and will trim it periodically before it goes absolutely crazy. Add some leaves from your garden or, if possible, from a local pond/river that is healthy. The leaves provide cover for the shrimp and also will bring in some micro organisms that the fish will eat. Good luck!
This is inspiring for me My dream is to have a 3-4ft planted aquarium (maybe even bigger) with lots of different small fish But that's gonna cost a lot I was planning on a 30cm cube low maintenance aquarium with realistic setup This is perfect I hope I will make one soon
Yeah, what's that all about?! Haha. Weirdly, even though it happened 18 months ago, I noticed what looks like a bone of sorts in the tank this morning, but possibly too big to be the fish. Strange it happening 1 day after uploading a video about what happened nearly 2 years ago!
Yeah, tell me about it! Super weird! I mean most likely she was shrimp food, but I checked the entire tank for bones and found nothing, unless they buried her!
would the shrimps and its babies have survived if there were lots of thick java moss, caves, nooks, and crannies in the tank? i have guppies in my shrimp tank but i haven't seen those little fishes eat any of the shrimps.
Possibly, but who knows. Might have gotten the occasional one survive. I've just added some java moss to it, so we'll see how many shrimp survive now. Different fish though.
Well my betta killed his 4 snail friends and 8 pygmy corydoras. He was head butting the little fish to death. I didn't realise it was the betta, until I saw him kill the last one! He was biting off the antennae and eyes of the snails. Again, I didn't realise until he finished off the last one. So I wouldn't be surprised if he killed your rams-horns, like mine did.
Jesus, that's brutal! Shrimp is one thing, but other fish, especially ones that keep to themselves at the bottom is next level. Sorry to hear your Betta was a savage also.
@@creatinganecosystem I know, it's pretty brutal what bettas can do. I mean, if they can kill an opposing male then really, a smaller corydora is really no challenge? I don't know why I didn't think of that. I suppose I was hoping if it wasn't a flaring male betta, my Boba Fett could tolerate the non-intrusive tenants. I think Barbara and Boba Fett were made for each other, lol. Bob has found a new owner who only wanted one fish. I want a clean up crew too! So no more Bettas for me. Got some new pygmy cory's and CPD's. Edited to add, he was originally called Timothy, until we discovered he was a secret assassin. So he was renamed, Boba Fett (aka: Bob). Which suited him much better. You call a timid fish, Timothy.
@@CK-solutions very good point! I was naive in thinking Barb would just ignore the shrimp and not see them as food, when I was giving her copepods and daphnia etc. but I guess a shrimp is basically just a bigger version in a fish's eyes Bob and Barb together... Can't imagine anything would survive in that tank! 😅 Agree on the name change too haha
Cheers! Lot's more shrimp! Plus different types of snails, some other inverts and a smaller species of fish that can't take down a fully grown shrimp haha
Hairgrass must be impossible to grow. I can't keep it alive either. Apparently it needs a LOT of nutrition to even kind of thrive. Also yeah, don't keep shrimp with bettas, they will eventually kill them.
@@Mr.Vhandle 6 hours shouldn't be a problem. If it's working, don't change anything. I've had success on a couple of my no filter tanks with the above schedule.
Your tank might've had a problem of some sort, because both your betta and shrimp died, and it could be that your betta just ate the bodies of the shrimp after they had died. Sometimes tap water contains nitrates/ammonia after the city flushes the pipes or whatever, and sometimes the shrimp and other inhabitants just die of old age. Whatever the cause might be, fast growing plants and feeding a low amount could help by reducing ammonia and other harmful nitrogen compounds, especially in a filterless tank. You might already know all of this, so I hope it helps someone who is new to the hobby.
I forgot to add it to the video. I checked for ammonia and nitrite after she went missing, in case that was the cause if she died, or if she was dead in the tank she could cause an ammonia spike. But both were at 0. Just one of those things I'll never know, I guess.
@@creatinganecosystemI mean, having no filter is a risk itself. It's not just for the cleaning, it also introduces oxygen to the water and creates surface agitation. Bettas and shrimp do well with gentle filtration. There may have been other parameters off besides the ammonia/nitrites/nitrates, and using a filter helps keep things stable. I know there is a lot of normalization of low tech or no tech for betta care, but just because they can survive in a tank without certain tools doesn't mean they're thriving. Bettas can live a few years in ideal conditions. Not trying to dunk on you, I really like seeing ecosystem content like this, but would like to gently push you to consider filtration even if you're trying to make an ecosystem tank, especially in a small tank. A lot of people get inspired into the hobby from content like this and might think they can get away without a filter etc and run into losses as well.
@@hissingwillows668 I agree with most of this. It's never going to hurt to add a filter, but at the same time, if you put enough plants in there and a deep enough substrate the filter is not needed. There are plenty of things I could have done better with this tank, but it's still going now, full of different snails, shrimp and new fish and I haven't lost a single one that I'm aware of since the Betta. I have just started a new tank with a deep sand substrate and an internal filter.
@@creatinganecosystem Plants can definitely help but they don't do everything a filter does (and vice versa). Frankly I just don't ever see a good reason to not have a filter at all that doesn't ultimately come down to just liking the vibe of low-tech as opposed to an actual welfare benefit, because even if you add factors that can help with stability and oxygen there's no benefit to actually removing the filter as opposed to just choosing the appropriate kind of filter for a given animal *and* having plants. Plants aren't going to be creating surface agitation or flow, and may or may not be introducing enough oxygen for the fish. Bettas tend to hang out exclusively near the surface like she was near the end when they can't get enough oxygen lower in the tank. They do tend to like the upper area of the tank more, but in good conditions will utilize their whole tank space. Again, not trying to beat you up, just coming at this from a place of seeing way too many people in beginner groups putting together bad situations for their fish based on seeing something where someone didn't have xyz basic equipment and assuming they can do the same (with or without also keeping it planted, deep substrate, etc). I'm glad to hear the tank is doing well now and hope it keeps doing well
@@hissingwillows668 I believe, in a heavily planted tank, or with floating plants and with a deep substrate, the plants do everything that is needed. Surface agitation is not necessary, the plants produce oxygen, the intake ammonia, nitrite etc. and the bacteria can colonise the substrate and other surface areas. I'd say it's more important for a filter in a bigger tank, just for distribution of nutrients, oxygen, carbon dioxide etc. but I don't think it's as important in something this small. I don't think oxygenation was ever the problem in this tank. It could have been improved, with sand as a substrate maybe, or maybe some other things like java moss for the any shrimp to survive, but again, not necessary, but it was perfectly fine for the fish. I get your point, but personally, I would much rather see more people trying the low tech method with lots of plants, than how most beginners start in the hobby with a colourful gravel in a SpongeBob fish tank.
You are not making the soil correctly. Try this. There is 1 - 2 cm of vermicompost at the bottom. A layer of lava for more bacteria. And fill 5 cm on top. stones 1 - 3 mm. There will be a lot of beneficial bacteria. You can add large pieces of lava for decoration. Also good for bacteria. You need this, you don't have a filter. The water needs to be changed once a week. Need Theodoxus snails 10 pieces
@@yaarufureddo I know, I made this like 3.5 years ago. I have since done other tanks with soil as the base with other ingredients and a deep soil layer on top. Seems to be working much better!
My betta hunted on adult guppies. I once saw him hunt and kill a huge spider that had fallen into the tank. Bettas are almost exclusive predators. What did you expect?
Honestly, I expected her to get the babies, keep the population in check, but not the full grown adults. If the occasional babe made it through, bonus. Especially when I was throwing in brine shrimp and daphnia all the time too. I've kept a Betta with shrimp before without any issues.
@@creatinganecosystem and in my tank 2 assassin snails very quickly killed every single snail besides nerite and mystery snails. Aquarium is a closed system, so predators very quickly kill everything they can. I actually used to feed my bettas with scuds, and they are essentially shrimp, around the same size as cherry shrimp.
@@dmitrimikrioukov5935 yeah, the assassins were savages! Took them no time at all to wipe out the snails, same for me the nerites were fine. I have had another comment about scuds, will be buying some soon. The tank is much better now, so many different creatures are surviving together.
She was only given flake food like 4 times ever. I haven't used traditional flake food in any of my tanks for a while now. Mostly live or frozen daphnia, copepods, bloodworms etc. I don't have a Betta at the moment, but I'll check that bug bites out.
I know, I had a lid on and checked everywhere for her body. Even checked water to see if there was an ammonia spike, but nothing! It's either the shrimp or aliens 🦐👽
I think barb is going to need a criminal netflix Reality series
Oh a plot twist 😶 The way I fell in love with that spunky little betta and had it all crumble down within a ten minute video. RIP Barb. Great story telling! The sound effects were funny 😄
I'd fully blame the ammano shrimp. The exact same thing happened to my brother, a female betta just disappeared overnight, same deal, no carcass to be found anywhere. There was an ammano shrimp in that set to too and nothing else
What exactly are you blaming them for? Eating a piece of food they found in their tank? That's their job. They aren't predatory, so you can't really blame them for that
@@dimitrijekrstic7567 I mean they probably still did it, casting blame on something isn't always bad you know. Its just pointing a finger.
For second there I thought you meant that some amano shrimp had eaten your brother😂
Full grown amano shrimp will definitely eat neocardina shrimplets. I've had them kill sleeping fish before 💀
The same thing happened to me, a female betta disappeared over a weekend when I was away, I had 2 ammano shrimp in with her and nothing else
As long as there's no body found, I would sleep with one eye open. Who knows what Barbara is up to! I bet the betta isn't dead. 😂
I haven't slept properly since! 😂
I love your videos so much, the little voice and jokes thrown in go so well with the bougie narration ❤🦐
Thank you! 💚🦐
I had to put one of my bettas into solitary confinement because he's a shrimp killer. The shrimps celebrated afterwards by coming out of all their hidey holes!
Haha, I can just imagine them all scooting out! Now the shrimp don't even care about the new fish I replaced her with.
should have added some java moss for the shrimp to hide in
I thought about adding java moss. But with my track record of plant maintenance, decided against it. When that stuff goes crazy it goes reeeeeaallly crazy! As I have experienced in other tanks. 😅
Bro he plays Fortnite for a living
I will watch it later
I am keeping it as a candy that I'll eat after dinner
i dont know why i am re-watching this , either the good editing or the good voice over... But def subscribed. Keep it up !
When you added the assassin snail I went “noooo” 😧 Ramshorns only over populate when overfed, since you never mentioned a population boom I figure you never over fed so it was easy for the assassin snail to pick them off since it was only a few of them. Also they don’t need to breed, they have babies on their own (a singular snail) that’s why they over populate so quickly when there is an abundance of food.
Edit: I just remembered that assassin snails also eat shrimp. Usually the weak or old ones but I imagine any shrimp is easy pickings if it’s caught off guard
Now with barb, unfortunately bettas REALLY like shrimp. Even the chill ones that seem to ignore their shrimp buddies tend to have a taste for them after tasting a little nibble. Some people have shrimp with their betta for over a year then all I’ve a sudden the shrimp get eaten. Sad for you but barb seemed to really enjoy herself lol (Rip Barb 🕊️)
I really enjoyed this video and the visuals were great. Plus it was very calming. 10/10. I hope RUclips recommends another one of your videos in the future
Thank you! Really appreciate the comment.
Yeah, I really regretted adding the assassins. Things are going much better now, the tank is thriving and has 7 different types of snails and LOTS of shrimp
@@creatinganecosystemIf you're looking for a few nano fish....
Get Scarlet badis. A cichlid that only gets to an inch in size!
rip barb & rip og shrimp.
this made me sad. i just lost my wild api betta.
Things not normally mentioned about Assassin snails. 1) Much more finicky and subject to peril than any other kind of snail. 2) Loves loves loves eating Ramshorn snails. 3) Kind of shy about eating bladder, pond, and malaysian trumpet snails. though they will chase elephant snails if you decide to get rid of the (plant eating) things. 4) Given enough time and stable enough conditions they will eventually be the only snail in our tank. That could be 2 weeks for a tank with Ramshorns, it could be 12 months for a tank with Malaysian Trumpet snails.
Yeah. Cool part about them though is once all the snails are gone they can still survive on detritus and scavenging food meant to the other creatures. I once saw a girl with a ramshorn infestation add assassin snails. then they became the infestation after eating to well and breeding. Now they just live in her tank happily even without fresh snails to eat
I wish I knew that before adding them haha. I didn't realise just how savage they were! Now I have no assassins and have added Ramshorns back in lol
@TheSwiftCreek2 do they eat freshwater limpets too? I've got some with (probably) one of my wood decor, and they really bother me. I want to add a single assassin snail to get rid of them, then give the snail back to my friend. I don't like snails, and the eggs destroy the look of my aquascape, that's why I'm planning to only add one helena snail. I did a good job preventing other species to enter my aquarium by quaranteening the plants, but I didn't boil the wood and the stones before adding them, so somehow limpets found their way in.
edit: I can't use pest killers, because I have amanos and neocaridina shrimps in my tank, so I don't want to take a risk
I actually enjoyed your video. I would have been so upset with Barb for eating all the baby shrimps. I once blamed a turtle for eating all my tetras when it was later discovered that it was the baby Manganese cichlid that grown faster than I thought.
Thank you.
Yeah, it was annoying, but I can't really blame her for doing what comes natural lol. The babies obviously tasted too good, so she wanted to try the adults.
Barb every 30 days, I GUESS SHRIMP IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS! :D
😂🦐🍽️
Nice video :) the shrimp and ramshorn snail noises were so funny 😂
awesome story telling and video editing. Nice video mate enjoyed it
Thanks a lot!
So cute when the snail eats
couldn't find what to watch during lunch and don't have a single regret clicking on this 😂
Rest in peace Barb, however long her life was it was so rich and interesting for her 💙 but yeah probably the shrimp ate her, I've seen a couple people post about nothing but their betta's skeleton being left over after just a few hours/overnight.
Yep, seems like that is most likely the case for my tank too 😕
Glad I successfully used up your lunch break!
Thanks for watching.
Ahh what a sweet video! It makes me want to have my desktop tank as well.. One day I will again have my peapuffers to stare at while working ^^
The tank is pretty good😊
Shrimp with the knives as hilarious
please make more videos, i know having a job and posting isnt easy but please upload becuase these videos are enjoyable :)
Haha, I'll try my best! I'll get another one out within the next week, then hopefully try every week - 2 weeks after that.
Thanks for the love 🦐💚
Came for the eco tank subscribed for the screaming goat. Also I looked up how many gallons a 30cm tank is and I got 46? I think I mathed wrong lol
Haha! The legendary screaming goat.
I think you did haha, 30cm cube is 27 litres which is around 7 us gallons.
I keep finding fish bones in my 10 gallon but haven’t lost a single fish. 😂
I’ve been collecting them all in a pill bottle. I’m hoping one day I can put them all together and figure out what this mystery fish carcass is.
Amazing video ❤
That's cool, but weird! Where are they coming from? 😅 Sound like an interesting project, can imagine it will be tough piecing them together though haha.
And thank you!🦐💚
great video man keep it up youll blow up ive been watching u since the start
Haha, thank you. Imagine it!
that was a amazing video 😃
Thank you!
Great video! I love the cute sound effects.
RIP Barb.
For a primary consumer in the tank, I recommend scuds: a micro crustacean that breeds readily, makes a little waste and is a good food source for future betta fish.
😉They’ll do exceptionally well in that guppy grass.
Thanks for the advice. That's the one I haven't tried! I've been putting in daphnia and other micro foods, but they are gone within a day, never around long enough to breed. Will check out scuds! I have different, smaller fish in there now.
@@creatinganecosystem when I had daphnia, they died overnight also, so I can’t tell you anything about them… but if you go with scuds, be sure to throw in some LONG DEAD leaves, and an abundance of the scuds, since there are already fish in there.
@@deathbyfishtanks yeah, it now has lots of decaying leaves at the bottom of the tank, which the shrimp and snails love. I'll definitely give them a go, thank you.
I'd like to imagine that shrimp really sound like pikmin in real life
What camera are you using? Nice close up shots
It's actually my phone camera with a clip on macro lense of Amazon haha. Probably a mix of Samsung Galaxy S21 and iPhone SE at the time.
Holy shit a content creator with great content AND responds to his viewers. You got yourself a new fan.
@@tokk3 thank you!
No thank you! 😅
Anyway. Your sound effects are spot on.
I'll await your next upload and binge watch everything else.😂
Oh god my tank is 5 months old and I'm on the same path with the same plants and nearly same animals.
Nooooo haha. Here's what I'd recommend. You could add some moss in, providing you're not lazy like me and will trim it periodically before it goes absolutely crazy.
Add some leaves from your garden or, if possible, from a local pond/river that is healthy. The leaves provide cover for the shrimp and also will bring in some micro organisms that the fish will eat.
Good luck!
This is inspiring for me
My dream is to have a 3-4ft planted aquarium (maybe even bigger) with lots of different small fish
But that's gonna cost a lot
I was planning on a 30cm cube low maintenance aquarium with realistic setup
This is perfect
I hope I will make one soon
I had a betta disappear into thin air once too, weird af. Had a lid and everything, never found a little body.
Yeah, what's that all about?! Haha.
Weirdly, even though it happened 18 months ago, I noticed what looks like a bone of sorts in the tank this morning, but possibly too big to be the fish.
Strange it happening 1 day after uploading a video about what happened nearly 2 years ago!
My beta was missing from my tank as well. Couldn’t find its remains…very strange. My tank only had shrimps & cories
I think these shrimp must be making light work of our fish 😅
You could try a blanket plant on the bottom and then maybe she wouldn't be able to find shrimp.
I was hoping the hairgrass would carpet, it started to spread, but just died out in the end. The tank is much better for shrimp now.
1st week very cool
so small cap for the soil, especially for gravel. IMHO
You're absolutely right. I learnt the hard way. I have a new tank that has a soil cap of around 2" of sand, hopefully it will do much better.
damn, my guy has been documenting chaos. But no evidence of the disappearance of Barbara 🤔🤔
Yeah, tell me about it! Super weird! I mean most likely she was shrimp food, but I checked the entire tank for bones and found nothing, unless they buried her!
would the shrimps and its babies have survived if there were lots of thick java moss, caves, nooks, and crannies in the tank? i have guppies in my shrimp tank but i haven't seen those little fishes eat any of the shrimps.
Possibly, but who knows. Might have gotten the occasional one survive. I've just added some java moss to it, so we'll see how many shrimp survive now. Different fish though.
Great!
Feeling so nice while watching..☺🥰......Best wishes From INDIA🇮🇳❤
That's awesome! Glad you enjoyed 🦐
Cool!
Well my betta killed his 4 snail friends and 8 pygmy corydoras. He was head butting the little fish to death. I didn't realise it was the betta, until I saw him kill the last one! He was biting off the antennae and eyes of the snails. Again, I didn't realise until he finished off the last one. So I wouldn't be surprised if he killed your rams-horns, like mine did.
Jesus, that's brutal! Shrimp is one thing, but other fish, especially ones that keep to themselves at the bottom is next level. Sorry to hear your Betta was a savage also.
@@creatinganecosystem I know, it's pretty brutal what bettas can do. I mean, if they can kill an opposing male then really, a smaller corydora is really no challenge? I don't know why I didn't think of that. I suppose I was hoping if it wasn't a flaring male betta, my Boba Fett could tolerate the non-intrusive tenants.
I think Barbara and Boba Fett were made for each other, lol. Bob has found a new owner who only wanted one fish. I want a clean up crew too! So no more Bettas for me. Got some new pygmy cory's and CPD's.
Edited to add, he was originally called Timothy, until we discovered he was a secret assassin. So he was renamed, Boba Fett (aka: Bob). Which suited him much better. You call a timid fish, Timothy.
@@CK-solutions very good point! I was naive in thinking Barb would just ignore the shrimp and not see them as food, when I was giving her copepods and daphnia etc. but I guess a shrimp is basically just a bigger version in a fish's eyes
Bob and Barb together... Can't imagine anything would survive in that tank! 😅
Agree on the name change too haha
@@creatinganecosystem I doubt they would survive each other either. 🤣
Cheers from my fish room channel in Chicago! with Barb's passing I'm guessing you're going to have a go with more shrimp?
Cheers! Lot's more shrimp! Plus different types of snails, some other inverts and a smaller species of fish that can't take down a fully grown shrimp haha
Hairgrass must be impossible to grow. I can't keep it alive either. Apparently it needs a LOT of nutrition to even kind of thrive.
Also yeah, don't keep shrimp with bettas, they will eventually kill them.
Same, tried it a few times in different set ups. Never tried with CO2 though
Can you tell me what kind of stem plants you used in the background i have a plant similar but i forgot the name
Sorry, I missed this comment. The ones on the right side are rotala rotundifolia, the ones at the back left are, I think, Ludwigia repens.
Pretty fish
Please make more videos!
I'm working on it 😅 I have another 18 months of footage of this tank haha
She was a lovely looking Beta. Has she been replaced yet?
Thank you. She was a beauty. And yes, she has been replaced now, the tank has quite a few new additions.
how long did you keep the light on during the day ?
10 hours with a 4 hour gap in the middle.
7:00am ON
12:00pm OFF
16:00pm ON
21:00pm OFF
@@creatinganecosystem thank you! I am starting off with 6 hours and was thinking im overdoing it 🙏
@@Mr.Vhandle 6 hours shouldn't be a problem. If it's working, don't change anything. I've had success on a couple of my no filter tanks with the above schedule.
Roderick nooooooo Barbara nooooooo
how did you do this how do you put oxygen in the tank
Put lots of plants in. They add oxygen to the water and don't overstock the tank with fish.
thats so sad, did you ever find out what happened to her or find her body?
I didn't 🙁 not sure if I saw a bone in the tank a few days ago, but I'm not sure.
Oh no 😅 the shrimpys
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kebdrak2009 stop spoiling bro damn
😂
Barb going to jail
Put chili rasbora in it
Hmmm... A possibility, will have to research compatibility with what's in there now. I haven't kept them before.
Your tank might've had a problem of some sort, because both your betta and shrimp died, and it could be that your betta just ate the bodies of the shrimp after they had died. Sometimes tap water contains nitrates/ammonia after the city flushes the pipes or whatever, and sometimes the shrimp and other inhabitants just die of old age. Whatever the cause might be, fast growing plants and feeding a low amount could help by reducing ammonia and other harmful nitrogen compounds, especially in a filterless tank. You might already know all of this, so I hope it helps someone who is new to the hobby.
I forgot to add it to the video. I checked for ammonia and nitrite after she went missing, in case that was the cause if she died, or if she was dead in the tank she could cause an ammonia spike. But both were at 0.
Just one of those things I'll never know, I guess.
@@creatinganecosystemI mean, having no filter is a risk itself. It's not just for the cleaning, it also introduces oxygen to the water and creates surface agitation. Bettas and shrimp do well with gentle filtration. There may have been other parameters off besides the ammonia/nitrites/nitrates, and using a filter helps keep things stable. I know there is a lot of normalization of low tech or no tech for betta care, but just because they can survive in a tank without certain tools doesn't mean they're thriving. Bettas can live a few years in ideal conditions.
Not trying to dunk on you, I really like seeing ecosystem content like this, but would like to gently push you to consider filtration even if you're trying to make an ecosystem tank, especially in a small tank. A lot of people get inspired into the hobby from content like this and might think they can get away without a filter etc and run into losses as well.
@@hissingwillows668 I agree with most of this. It's never going to hurt to add a filter, but at the same time, if you put enough plants in there and a deep enough substrate the filter is not needed. There are plenty of things I could have done better with this tank, but it's still going now, full of different snails, shrimp and new fish and I haven't lost a single one that I'm aware of since the Betta.
I have just started a new tank with a deep sand substrate and an internal filter.
@@creatinganecosystem Plants can definitely help but they don't do everything a filter does (and vice versa). Frankly I just don't ever see a good reason to not have a filter at all that doesn't ultimately come down to just liking the vibe of low-tech as opposed to an actual welfare benefit, because even if you add factors that can help with stability and oxygen there's no benefit to actually removing the filter as opposed to just choosing the appropriate kind of filter for a given animal *and* having plants. Plants aren't going to be creating surface agitation or flow, and may or may not be introducing enough oxygen for the fish. Bettas tend to hang out exclusively near the surface like she was near the end when they can't get enough oxygen lower in the tank. They do tend to like the upper area of the tank more, but in good conditions will utilize their whole tank space. Again, not trying to beat you up, just coming at this from a place of seeing way too many people in beginner groups putting together bad situations for their fish based on seeing something where someone didn't have xyz basic equipment and assuming they can do the same (with or without also keeping it planted, deep substrate, etc). I'm glad to hear the tank is doing well now and hope it keeps doing well
@@hissingwillows668 I believe, in a heavily planted tank, or with floating plants and with a deep substrate, the plants do everything that is needed. Surface agitation is not necessary, the plants produce oxygen, the intake ammonia, nitrite etc. and the bacteria can colonise the substrate and other surface areas. I'd say it's more important for a filter in a bigger tank, just for distribution of nutrients, oxygen, carbon dioxide etc. but I don't think it's as important in something this small.
I don't think oxygenation was ever the problem in this tank. It could have been improved, with sand as a substrate maybe, or maybe some other things like java moss for the any shrimp to survive, but again, not necessary, but it was perfectly fine for the fish.
I get your point, but personally, I would much rather see more people trying the low tech method with lots of plants, than how most beginners start in the hobby with a colourful gravel in a SpongeBob fish tank.
so interesting shuldve added java moss
Thank you. I thought about it, but I knew it'd get too wild and I'd just let the tank go to crap (worse than I did with the guppy grass 😅)
i thought you would have maybe 50k subs you deserve my sub@@creatinganecosystem
You are not making the soil correctly. Try this. There is 1 - 2 cm of vermicompost at the bottom. A layer of lava for more bacteria. And fill 5 cm on top. stones 1 - 3 mm. There will be a lot of beneficial bacteria. You can add large pieces of lava for decoration. Also good for bacteria. You need this, you don't have a filter. The water needs to be changed once a week. Need Theodoxus snails 10 pieces
@@yaarufureddo I know, I made this like 3.5 years ago. I have since done other tanks with soil as the base with other ingredients and a deep soil layer on top. Seems to be working much better!
My betta hunted on adult guppies. I once saw him hunt and kill a huge spider that had fallen into the tank. Bettas are almost exclusive predators. What did you expect?
Honestly, I expected her to get the babies, keep the population in check, but not the full grown adults. If the occasional babe made it through, bonus. Especially when I was throwing in brine shrimp and daphnia all the time too.
I've kept a Betta with shrimp before without any issues.
@@creatinganecosystem and in my tank 2 assassin snails very quickly killed every single snail besides nerite and mystery snails. Aquarium is a closed system, so predators very quickly kill everything they can. I actually used to feed my bettas with scuds, and they are essentially shrimp, around the same size as cherry shrimp.
@@dmitrimikrioukov5935 yeah, the assassins were savages! Took them no time at all to wipe out the snails, same for me the nerites were fine. I have had another comment about scuds, will be buying some soon.
The tank is much better now, so many different creatures are surviving together.
Bug bites betta food is alot more healthier then flake food and maybe the food was expired thats why she ended up dying
She was only given flake food like 4 times ever. I haven't used traditional flake food in any of my tanks for a while now. Mostly live or frozen daphnia, copepods, bloodworms etc. I don't have a Betta at the moment, but I'll check that bug bites out.
More drama that my GF.
Sometimes beta will escape tank
I know, I had a lid on and checked everywhere for her body. Even checked water to see if there was an ammonia spike, but nothing! It's either the shrimp or aliens 🦐👽
@@creatinganecosystem damn
you didnt feed barb enough thats y she ate the shrimps
Nah, I don't think that's the case. She just an angry greedy fish
look up father fish method man and stop overfeeding :)
You're 2 years too late... 😝
I only fed her flake food like 3 times in a year