Well. California is full of dumb, unscientific people who can't define simple scientific facts. TBH them reclassifying bees as fish isn't the dumbest thing ever in California.
I'm a Carnitarian (someone who doesn't eat Fish or other similar Aquatic Creatures) and now knowing Bees are Fish and Honey is equivalent to Caviar it's looking like I'll need to give up eating 🍯
As a beekeeper in California (not a big one I only have a small apiary) it is hilarious to see MatPat discovering some of the ins and outs of beekeeping and the funny laws we’ve got! And of course by beekeeper I mean fishkeeper. Of course. Anyway. Respect your native bees! We really need bumble bees and the rest of them! If you’ve got a hive in an inconvenient spot, call a local beekeeper who promises not to exterminate! And if the bees are in a place they’re not bothering anyone, leave them be(e)! They won’t bother you unless you bother them!
Here in Europe (well at least in my country) its actually illegal to destroy bee or bumblebee nests, not even when you are endangered (like having allergy and they making hive on your frontyard) - when that happens you call specialists who put them to sleep and remove. Wasps and hornets are fair game thou and you can nuke them on your property if you are capable, but you are not supposed to without professional help. If you get hurt by hornets or wasps when destroying the hive on your own, your insurance doesnt apply, because you "brought this on yourself"
@@Rencol666 to be fair, yes, if I decide i want to fight a wasp hive by myself instead of paying a professional I'd argue I brought their wrath upon myself
@@LaxJack well i worked for insurance company for few years. so yes this truly applies :D i had a call about guy getting attacked by hornets and i asked him if he tried to remove the hive. He paused and said veeeery carefuly "no, i was harvesting fruit near them". Every call is recorded, guy was smart and that line saved him money.
Okay here's a fun technicality for you with your annual christmas tree eating... there's a weird branch of conifers known as the Gnetales, of which the genus Gentum is of particular interest here. The leaves are eaten as a vegetable, and the nuts can be eaten various ways too. Instead of chomping down some pine needles, you could have a genuinely tasty meal and still *technically* have a traditional christmas tree, since an evergreen conifer sounds plenty christmasy to me! Quick edit with a little bit of extra info since this seems to be mildly popular: I'd recommend going for Gnetum gnemon, as it is one of two species of tree in the genus Gnetum, the other being Gnetum costatum. All other Gnetum are lianas (woody vines; technically you could grow these like a tree with a lot of pruning and patience... but why would you?), and all save for G. gnemon are ridiculously obscure (good luck finding so much as a scrap of information about them, let along some actual seeds or plants to grow). Even G gnemon doesn't seem to be particularly easy to come by... but definitely available with some quick searching online. Also, turns out there's more than just the leaves and seeds that are edible, pfaf has some good info on this. The genus even produces extrafloral nectaries, so if you really wanted to experiment I'm sure the nectar is edible.
7:59 bee farm inspections are stricter than fish farms, because an infection in a bee farm screws every farm in a massive radius, while an infection in a fish farm is generally contained
The bee rental companies don't just transport hives of honey bees from farm to farm. Some of them have collections of bee species that don't make hives. A number of these species are also very specific in regards to what kinds of plants they will pollinate. For example, a bee rental company may bring bees that focus on blueberry plants to a blueberry grower.
@@godless1014 It is not only not funny, but it also threatens how democracy/ a republic is supposed to work, in making laws and the limitation on government power.
5:45 It gets even funnier if you consider that, phyllogenetically, everything with a boney spinal chord is a fish So both vertebrates and inverebrates are fish. Everything is fish
Didn't Scishow literally do a "Are we fish?" video last month talking about how tetrapods are in the middle between 2 groups we call fish and thus are fish
yeah but technically you aren't real, you just a bunch of atoms conveniently placed to make multiple functioning organs including your brain which is just electric neurons - whatever, one word: solipsism. it doesn't matter if you are real or not or if anyone- sorry, you not being serious are you... XD nvm sorry.
10:53 fun fact: bees are one of the animals we can consider consenting to us taking their products, since bees can and will leave a beekeeper doing a bad job
@@michawhite7613i am a vegan and i consider beekeeping and other uses of animals that are harmless to them totally acceptable , bees are also helping in agriculture.
"people have been debating whether a hot dog is a sandwich since mankind first placed a floppy tube of meat between two buns" that last part could be taken out of context for something much less family friendly.
I'm a certified Naturalist for the state of CA and literally happy screeched when I read the topic of this video! Thanks Mat and the Theorists team for using your platform to teach people about this! Our native bees are in critical danger and that is something that should concern everyone in and out of the state! The Save the Bees campaign does not include Honey Bees because they are not endangered and NOT native to most countries. They basically are like cattle to agriculture businesses and we're forcing them to do an immense amount of work that a fraction of native bees like the bumblebee can do! There are some fruits and vegetables that cannot be pollinated by any other bee than that of the Bombus family. Tomatoes for example. Why doesn't AG just use native bees then? One of the many reasons, is that native bees are mostly solitary; you can't give them a hive and expect to be able to breed and ship them as easily as you can with the European Honey Bee. They need habitat, a lot of it, specifically THEY NEED NATIVE PLANTS. Because, unlike the Honeybee, our native bees are specialist pollinators, meaning they evolved along side native plants for thousands of years, so they are equipped to get the pollen from these plants in ways others cannot, and some plants act as the only host for nesting. But, these plants are being effectively destroyed by AG, human development, and the use of exotic invasive plants that people love to plant in their yards. It's an extraordinary topic I can talk all day about! But again, thank you and your team for presenting it in a concise and interesting way. I hope it will prompt people to learn more and inspire them to do what they can to restore native plants to their own yards so that our native fish (🐝)s might have a fighting chance! Consider converting your lawn into a Native Plant pollinator garden and create waystations for these little guys! You can technically tell your friends you've got an outdoor aquarium 🤣 If you're in California and want more information on what plants are native to your neighborhood (and links to nurseries that stock them!) I recommend using calscape.org/ and visiting the California Native Plant Society's website for more information on the topic of restoration and how you can get involved! www.cnps.org/ For all out of CA search, for your local native plant nursery or native plant societies!
Thank god one of you was on here to say something. If I have another person screaming at me to save honey bees, or we're running out of honey bees... Well Nick Cage gives me some ideas.
There's actually been a lot weirder fish classification arguments for Lent purposes throughout the centuries, at one point some monks wanted to get baby bunnies classified as fish for the same reason, I think they got denied though
@@agsilverradio2225 maybe a little gross but I assume it's because they're in liquid in the womb? Also I checked and this particular rabbit story does seem to be mostly apocryphal, though apparently ducks were actually decreed to be fish for Lent purposes, which makes a little more sense
I am quite familiar with having bees shipped to our home. My father is a farmer, and I remember every year we would buy bee boxes. I always hated them because right when the trees started flowering I wouldn't go in them because there were so many bees, but it helped with pollination, so that's good, I guess.
The biggest problem is the almond groves are monocultures: no pollinators can actually survive there year-round because the only plants allowed to bloom are the almond trees themselves. That's also why the beehives are rented and trucked in from out of state: for the 11 months of the year when the almonds aren't flowering there's nothing there for the bees to eat.
Im sorry, bumblebee what now 😃 Edit: i have no idea what bumblebee tuna is so my first thought was, "do they grind up bees and put them in cans of tuna?!" I am so sleep deprived
The reason bumble bees are not generally used for commercial pollination is because their hives tend to only number in the dozens whereas honey bees can number in the 1000s to 10,000s, they also produce honey as they do it which can help to offset their cost of transportation and upkeep.
I actually have a little experience in this situation, and it's sad what most corporations are doing. I grew up on a smaller scale orchard. We had community honey bees, rent a bees, AND a bumblebee community thanks to our provincial help. They installed special hives to encourage native bees to start residing. It was a win win situation, since the later was an no cost to us. The biggest issue with the big time almond orchard among others would be the pesticides they use ... But that's a whole story of itself.
Here's a fun fact. The drone brood, (young male bees) are actually harvested for food in some cultures Another note: I think the main reason honeybees are preferred for pollinating almonds is the sheer number of bees in a hive. I mean a queen honeybee can lay over a thousand eggs a day given the resources.
Also, the honey bees can subsist entirely off of just domesticated food crops, whereas different kinds of bees are specialized & may need other plants in their diet too, so you need to devote land to just feeding native bees instead of making money & cross contaminating with too many different kinds of bees after the same food sources increases the risk of disease in hives.
2024: Breaking News, due to the overpopulation of bees, the state of California now classify bees as pigs. All lawsuits with contingencies that mention "when pigs fly" are now enforced. Haha
Addtl info, bees are considered fish, but honey is not considered a fishery product, bcuz fishery requires it be marine fish... Bcuz ofc they had alrdy know theyd have to exclude the land fish from fishery xD This means, bee sushi yes; honey sushi no.
Honestly it would be really good to spread this info because I can imagine that many republicans will use fraze like "bees are fish in california" as a way to ridicule/attack democrats (or "left" in general). Similarly how many right wing people (especially far right) was ridiculing EU when they decided that legally snails are "inland fish" so farmers who farm snails could receive subsidies.
The one thing that MatPat conveniently forgot to mention is that Honey Bees are naturally aggressive and drive Bumblebees away from their home because they're territorial as well.
And, ya know, that they're an invasive species that we're just kinda tactically using without considering the consequences to ecosystems that are more than just food and materials for humans.
Where'd you get that information from? I'm reading differently that Honey Bees aren't any more aggressive than other types of bees. That they are defensive and protect their home.
Humans couldn't be able to breath under a surface of a body of water because they don't posses any natural mutations such as gills or inner laser machines splitting the O2 from the hydrogen.
Thank you for covering this! I understand it was a theory with MatPat written all over it but issues like these are all over the place and any sort of publicity is positive in bringing awareness! Thank you!!
My sister, who loves bees, once tried to feed bees and ended up putting out a bowl of water. One bee went in the water and my sister just held it on her finger until its wings dried off.
Theres allot of bees at the house i grew up, but theres also a pool. Id always try to rescue any bees that fell in, watch em dry themselves off. Then theyd fly around me for a bit before flying off. Maybe im just attaching human traits to em, but i do like to think theyre thankful for it.
2 horrible facts about rent a bees is that bees appear to react badly to having their hives moved a lot like regularly brokered bees which contributes to colony collapse disorder. And second it is more cost effective in many cases to buy a hive outright at the end of the season and then not winterize it allowing the whole colony to starve and or freeze to death.
11:52 “Encourage honey bees to work harder” is so hilarious though like “Oh beethany look! Bumble bees are working here too, come on work harder we don’t want a bad reputation with them!”
Zefrank1 has a video you might be interested in, "Teddy has an operation". Tells you everything you ever needed to know about the insides of stuffed animals.
At my school we had a kind of hackathon called a "makeathon", in which we tried finding and making solutions for problems in a specific field. The first theme was agriculture, and one of the problems was pollinating almond trees. Apparently bees don't like the taste of almond nectar because it's (this maybe has to do with the cyanide in almonds). Well we couldn't find a solution for that😅.
No. Ketchup is a sauce using vinegar to preserve and enhance the flavour of someone else. For years, mushroom ketchup was the standard form of ketchup. Even more mind altering. Mustard is ketchup.
@@drewe2331 "Fruit preserves are preparations of fruits whose main preserving agent is sugar and sometimes acid, often stored in glass jars and used as a condiment or spread." Ketchup, in USA, is mainly preserved using sugar and vinegar (an acid) and is often stored in glass jars and is used as a condiment. Ketchup, as we commonly know ketchup to be, is a tomato preserve
@@drewe2331 Also, more on older ketchups... mushroom ketchup wasnt even the first ketchup either but was europeans attempts at mimickin a fermented fish ketchup from China. And that fermented fish ketchup, tho likelt independently created, was quite sinilar, with only a few local changes, to garum, an ancient roman fish sauce that they prty much used as we use ketchup today. and even beyond rome and china, and before them even, ketchup, or somethin akin to it, was aten by many folk and still is to those day in many other variations elsewhere. Most of which trace back eventually to fermented fish sauces. Which if anythin means we shud just make worcestershire sauce a little thicker and call it ketchup so its easier to say :P
I remember talking about this case in my Environmental Legislation class. A lot of the environmental laws we see today and are able to be so strict (comparably to the rest of the world excluding the EU) are due to these loopholes. If the US Constitution is any way "vague" environmental lawyers will fight tooth and nail to take advantage and get more laws in place for the environment. Its very interesting and sometimes amusing to see what these lawyers or the lobbyist counterpart are willing to do to achieve their goal. Nice video Matpat!
The thing about companies working alongside the protected bee species is that the problem lies in how the policy works. If the protected bees move into the area and begin pollinating, the companies lose the ability to use the fields. As Matpat said, California law states that you cannot use the land the threatened species is using. If they could work with the bees, it would be great, but the specific execution of the law means that the companies have to choose between making huge expenses on renting bees or not being able to produce almonds at all.
So the reasonable solution is to make a seperate law for insects, but I'm guessing people rarely want compromise. Ironically, it's probably not the big companies fault. Well those ones at least. Edit: I'm also sure the almond companies are innocent, but this doesn't seem to directly be their fault.
I was about to mention this. I live in California and this law can be extremely harmful for a lot of people in and out of state. It's not only companies but also small farmers or land owners. If the protected bees move into any farm that produces something for the rest of the country, the rest of the country won't be getting it or will have to pay so much more for it. With smaller farmers or landowners, they lose everything. I wish their was a better solution but the government, big companies, and environmentalists refuse to compromise. We need the food from the farmers but we also need these bees so if they can make a compromise it can give us both. Sorry my thoughts are scattered so this replay is a bit scattered.
I worked for a small produce company that planted watermelons. After we would plant the watermelon and they were so much far along, we would have to carry bees to the middle of the fields so they could pollinate. Luckily the boxes weren't too heavy but I was always scared they would attack me after opening their box 😂😂
Them owning the rent a bee service is part of the point, if bees start being treated as endangered and actually get protects then they will repopulate and then farmers would no longer need the bee services, they also want control of that resource
I consider fish to be meat because they have muscle on bone. It isn't legally classified as meat because it lives in the water. Cows have meat because they are on land. Edit: Speaking of bees, a lot of people where I am from are allergic to bees, and the bees usually were squashed when spotted indoors. As many, many years have passed, the bees are a lot smaller in size. It is amazing how natural selection works.
To be fair, it's possible that there is simply not enough of the endangered bumblebee species to pollinate all the almond fields, but bringing in the honeybees might drastically reduce the honey supply for those bumblebees which could be restricted due to CESA
Fun little story about almond joys, they were one of the few candies I liked that didn't contain wheat so they were kind of my go to when I was first diagnosed with celiac's. I don't eat as many sweets now, but they'll have a place in my heart just for that. You'd be surprised how many candy brands contains wheat.
I actually know the reason why the almond bee relationship is the way it is. Almond flower nectar and pollen has very low nutritional value and the honey bees have actually starved out while pollinating before because they didn't have enough stored in their hives to make up the deficit. Most likely they were worried they'd be ordered to replace a portion of their almonds with something else that is more nutritious to the nectar eaters.
Lawyer here. You're correct that this shows that bees can be classified as fish because they did not indicate in the enumeration in the definition of "fish" that such enumeration applies the ejusdem generis rule. However, this does not necessarily mean that laws on fish and fishery will apply to bees. There is also a rule of statutory/legal construction that generic laws (e.g. laws that apply generally to all fish) shall yield to specific laws (e.g. laws that apply to a specific type of fish).
"hey Barry, help me out here, a school of fish made its way into my house" "this is a bee removal company, and you live 120 km from the ocean" "yeah, ik, a swarm of fish are making honey in my floorboards"
I have learnd more from mp then i ever did at school, probs because this is fun so im not gonna sepress the memory im so glad the mp and the theorists team exsist so that i will qctually learn something
I already know what the origin of this video is, but I have reason to expect that Mat Pat will present it in an entertaining way while probably saying stuff I didn't yet know about it.
I’m still sitting here confused on how it went from people arguing about a fish being a bee and then it just switched to different types of bees pollinating better or worse than other bees
4:22 Matpat saying almond prices will rise brings me not fear, but joy as someone allergic to almonds, I don’t have this weakness, let the corporations burn!
I love that every time the law gets involved in a RUclips video outside of LegalEagle or Lockpicking Lawyer, everyone starts bringing out the Ace Attorney references. I hope that never changes.
9:30 you can also lease bee hives on someone else's land so they can receive property tax cuts because having bees on your property counts as agriculture.
Imagine being a lawyer and going to the court to convince the judge that bees are fish
@@hereisthefullclip7666 nice video thanks
And then winning the case.
@@skittybug6937 fr 🤡
Well. California is full of dumb, unscientific people who can't define simple scientific facts.
TBH them reclassifying bees as fish isn't the dumbest thing ever in California.
@@hereisthefullclip7666 shut up nerd 🤓
At this point, MatPat can probably convince me everyone is secretly a bowl of cereal. He's doing more to change minds than most politicians.
Dont give him ideas to make this an actual video
I am a bowl of cereal
The bowl is the skin and skeleton, the actual bits of cereal are all of your little organs and junk.
Lol soon humans are literally gonna be considered bowls of cereal 🥣 (wait my insides do feel as warm as milk
Ikk
it's almost time for matpat to eat a Christmas tree. what a great tradition. good luck this year.
Omg I almost forgot about that one 😭 Can't wait for it tho ngl
I wonder if he can make that pine soda going around on tiktok from a Christmas tree
Happy Christmas tree eating season!
Is a tree seafood? I mean... They come from seeds which are from flowers that have been pollinated by bees 😬
Did he do that last year?
This brings flying fish to a whole other level
Underrated comment truly lol
Could you imagine if they pollinated stuff lol
Until I see a bee that lives in water for most of its life than I'm not buying it
@@thegamerohathen go under the sea without going up it's definitely a good idea
*rimshot*.
For a college research paper I wrote specifically about this issue. As someone who is a bee keeper, it is good to see attention brought to this issue!
I'm a Carnitarian (someone who doesn't eat Fish or other similar Aquatic Creatures) and now knowing Bees are Fish and Honey is equivalent to Caviar it's looking like I'll need to give up eating 🍯
@@Werewolf914 🤦♂️ only legally. Not scientifically. Please tell me that was a joke/sarcasm...
Biological gender is now subjective and bees are called fish. How many fish mate with the same gender and make children?
@@Werewolf914 I know it’s not serious but not really lol
Bee keeper? I think you'll find you are an aquarist my friend...
I am surprised that matpat could go through the entire video without giving a bad bee pun. Good job matpat :)
The US Bee meme would like to speak with you
It is hard to beelieve, but sadly it's just buzz, beecause, and I'm sorry to have to tell you honey, there were bad bee puns in the video.
2:04 You should probably bee more observant. 🤓🐝
good bee matpat :)
It would BEE so awesome if he did make the bee puns, it kinda BUZZED me when he didn't do it when i finished the video
As a beekeeper in California (not a big one I only have a small apiary) it is hilarious to see MatPat discovering some of the ins and outs of beekeeping and the funny laws we’ve got! And of course by beekeeper I mean fishkeeper. Of course. Anyway. Respect your native bees! We really need bumble bees and the rest of them! If you’ve got a hive in an inconvenient spot, call a local beekeeper who promises not to exterminate! And if the bees are in a place they’re not bothering anyone, leave them be(e)! They won’t bother you unless you bother them!
Here in Europe (well at least in my country) its actually illegal to destroy bee or bumblebee nests, not even when you are endangered (like having allergy and they making hive on your frontyard) - when that happens you call specialists who put them to sleep and remove. Wasps and hornets are fair game thou and you can nuke them on your property if you are capable, but you are not supposed to without professional help. If you get hurt by hornets or wasps when destroying the hive on your own, your insurance doesnt apply, because you "brought this on yourself"
@@Rencol666 to be fair, yes, if I decide i want to fight a wasp hive by myself instead of paying a professional I'd argue I brought their wrath upon myself
@@LaxJack well i worked for insurance company for few years. so yes this truly applies :D i had a call about guy getting attacked by hornets and i asked him if he tried to remove the hive. He paused and said veeeery carefuly "no, i was harvesting fruit near them". Every call is recorded, guy was smart and that line saved him money.
As an eyewitness then, are the bees up to any... fishy business?
I was about to like the comment when you made that pun.
Imagine going to an aquarium and it's just a room with a buncha bees flyin around.
I dated a girl for 2 months only to discover "she" had the wrong organs.
Okay here's a fun technicality for you with your annual christmas tree eating... there's a weird branch of conifers known as the Gnetales, of which the genus Gentum is of particular interest here. The leaves are eaten as a vegetable, and the nuts can be eaten various ways too. Instead of chomping down some pine needles, you could have a genuinely tasty meal and still *technically* have a traditional christmas tree, since an evergreen conifer sounds plenty christmasy to me!
Quick edit with a little bit of extra info since this seems to be mildly popular:
I'd recommend going for Gnetum gnemon, as it is one of two species of tree in the genus Gnetum, the other being Gnetum costatum. All other Gnetum are lianas (woody vines; technically you could grow these like a tree with a lot of pruning and patience... but why would you?), and all save for G. gnemon are ridiculously obscure (good luck finding so much as a scrap of information about them, let along some actual seeds or plants to grow). Even G gnemon doesn't seem to be particularly easy to come by... but definitely available with some quick searching online. Also, turns out there's more than just the leaves and seeds that are edible, pfaf has some good info on this. The genus even produces extrafloral nectaries, so if you really wanted to experiment I'm sure the nectar is edible.
We all care too much about seeing this man eat trees.
There's a type of trees called Genitals?
@@eugeneimnotgonnatellyoumyl5513 If you don't know how to read yet then yes, but otherwise no.
odd... but how is this related to the video?
p.s. is there a recepie for this?
Cool story bro
7:59 bee farm inspections are stricter than fish farms, because an infection in a bee farm screws every farm in a massive radius, while an infection in a fish farm is generally contained
The bee rental companies don't just transport hives of honey bees from farm to farm. Some of them have collections of bee species that don't make hives. A number of these species are also very specific in regards to what kinds of plants they will pollinate. For example, a bee rental company may bring bees that focus on blueberry plants to a blueberry grower.
Thanks, I did not know that.
@@peterjf7723 My uncle spent many years working at a lab studying non-hiving bees. They discovered many species that specialized lije that.
@@Eleknor I know they exist, but did not know they were used commercially as pollinators. One place I lived we had many leaf cutter bees.
Wow that’s really cool
If I ever somehow get into some futuristic accident, where I lose my spine, but still are living, I’m gonna say to myself, “Now I am fish”
Technically you are a fish already. We all are
as a law student, I love episodes like these. The little law technicalities are so funny and interesting to me
This isn't funny. It's embarrassing. We are a silly people.
@@godless1014 It is not only not funny, but it also threatens how democracy/ a republic is supposed to work, in making laws and the limitation on government power.
If it includes fishery products in this, does that mean beeswax, and by extension candles, are under the supervision of the FDA?
@@gingerinajacket8519 I think it should
Petition for Mat to make a biology channel just dedicated to crazy theories about real life animals.
*signs*
He could probably save some work by folding Food Theory into it, since biological organisms all need to eat.
i would sign that
love how you specified real life lol
signs
signs
5:45 It gets even funnier if you consider that, phyllogenetically, everything with a boney spinal chord is a fish
So both vertebrates and inverebrates are fish.
Everything is fish
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Didn't Scishow literally do a "Are we fish?" video last month talking about how tetrapods are in the middle between 2 groups we call fish and thus are fish
@@clarehidalgo Minute Earth did one 3 years ago
Everything is either fish or crab
Everything in my life has been lie.
We just get even more and more worried about mat every week
Yep
@don't be surprised WOW YOU MET MATPAT WITH POTATO WEDGES?
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@@AlienVecna he did say to not be surprised tbf
Next he’ll make how calm and reasonable Kratos is
MatPat can singlehandedly convince me that I'm not real and I'd believe him. The power this man holds is seriously uncanny.
Here is the full Clip : when I met matpat
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He should do a video on the "we live in a simulation" theory, if he hasn't already.
Blame the state of California for that.
yeah but technically you aren't real, you just a bunch of atoms conveniently placed to make multiple functioning organs including your brain which is just electric neurons - whatever, one word: solipsism. it doesn't matter if you are real or not or if anyone- sorry, you not being serious are you... XD nvm sorry.
@@Skelterbane69 That would probably be a Film Theory based around Truman Show.
From now on, I'm going to call honey "bee caviar".
Its not bee eggs tho...
Just call it bee pee, not accurate but definitely rolls off the tongue.
@@iAnonymous877 bee vomit isn't appetizing, you're right lol 😂
it's more like "bee milk" than anything else
I'm a beekeeper so I knew all of the facts that you presented in this video but I found your journey in learning them very amusing
10:53 fun fact: bees are one of the animals we can consider consenting to us taking their products, since bees can and will leave a beekeeper doing a bad job
Yep. Bees don't seem to suffer much, so many people actually consider honey to be vegan.
Tell that to Barry B. Benson
@@michawhite7613i am a vegan and i consider beekeeping and other uses of animals that are harmless to them totally acceptable , bees are also helping in agriculture.
yoooo i never realized, thats so cool
That’s a really cool fact ö
My mom's a law consultant at a company. I told her about this and she absolutely loved the technicalities
The reason that almond alliance don’t want bumblebees protected is because if they were and on their land, the legally couldn’t harvest their almonds
Almond Alliance 🤣🤣
@@glitchguypr0411 almond Alliance has the justice league shaking in their boots
Good point👍
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"people have been debating whether a hot dog is a sandwich since mankind first placed a floppy tube of meat between two buns" that last part could be taken out of context for something much less family friendly.
My brain is slowly going insane with all these weird food laws, and I don't know how to feel about that
At this point I am becoming more cynical and pessimistic on the law and bureaucracy bullsht to appeal the lobbyists
You have to appreciate how this man can upload on three separate channels constantly him and his team is insane
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I'm a certified Naturalist for the state of CA and literally happy screeched when I read the topic of this video!
Thanks Mat and the Theorists team for using your platform to teach people about this!
Our native bees are in critical danger and that is something that should concern everyone in and out of the state! The Save the Bees campaign does not include Honey Bees because they are not endangered and NOT native to most countries. They basically are like cattle to agriculture businesses and we're forcing them to do an immense amount of work that a fraction of native bees like the bumblebee can do!
There are some fruits and vegetables that cannot be pollinated by any other bee than that of the Bombus family. Tomatoes for example.
Why doesn't AG just use native bees then? One of the many reasons, is that native bees are mostly solitary; you can't give them a hive and expect to be able to breed and ship them as easily as you can with the European Honey Bee. They need habitat, a lot of it, specifically THEY NEED NATIVE PLANTS. Because, unlike the Honeybee, our native bees are specialist pollinators, meaning they evolved along side native plants for thousands of years, so they are equipped to get the pollen from these plants in ways others cannot, and some plants act as the only host for nesting. But, these plants are being effectively destroyed by AG, human development, and the use of exotic invasive plants that people love to plant in their yards.
It's an extraordinary topic I can talk all day about! But again, thank you and your team for presenting it in a concise and interesting way. I hope it will prompt people to learn more and inspire them to do what they can to restore native plants to their own yards so that our native fish (🐝)s might have a fighting chance!
Consider converting your lawn into a Native Plant pollinator garden and create waystations for these little guys! You can technically tell your friends you've got an outdoor aquarium 🤣
If you're in California and want more information on what plants are native to your neighborhood (and links to nurseries that stock them!) I recommend using calscape.org/ and visiting the California Native Plant Society's website for more information on the topic of restoration and how you can get involved! www.cnps.org/
For all out of CA search, for your local native plant nursery or native plant societies!
If I believe I can help Bumble Bees, then I would be glad to help them, but I don't want to name bees fish.
Lol. Love this comment a lot! Thanks for shareing!
Thank god one of you was on here to say something. If I have another person screaming at me to save honey bees, or we're running out of honey bees...
Well Nick Cage gives me some ideas.
shut up
Free fish!
I also like to point out that honey isn't just seafood.
Per the FDA or is classified as a raw meat.
That makes honey sushi
There's actually been a lot weirder fish classification arguments for Lent purposes throughout the centuries, at one point some monks wanted to get baby bunnies classified as fish for the same reason, I think they got denied though
Why specificly *baby* bunnys?
@@agsilverradio2225 maybe a little gross but I assume it's because they're in liquid in the womb?
Also I checked and this particular rabbit story does seem to be mostly apocryphal, though apparently ducks were actually decreed to be fish for Lent purposes, which makes a little more sense
Yeah. According to them ducks are fish.
Beavers as well iirc.
Edit: Get halfway through the video and Matpat beats me to it. Always watch to the end before commenting.
@@MissCaraMint I mean technically all tetrapods are "fish" including us Humans, Ducks, Cows etc on a scientific level
This gives a whole new meaning to "bumblebee tuna"
Ok. You win.
Yes! It makes total sense now.
whats bumblebee tuna
@@placeholder3863 It's a brand of tuna.
@@wr6676 yes but now we know that it is a brand of “tuna” made from bumblebees 😉
Me, allergic to both bees and fish: Ah yes, that explains so much.
I am quite familiar with having bees shipped to our home. My father is a farmer, and I remember every year we would buy bee boxes. I always hated them because right when the trees started flowering I wouldn't go in them because there were so many bees, but it helped with pollination, so that's good, I guess.
The biggest problem is the almond groves are monocultures: no pollinators can actually survive there year-round because the only plants allowed to bloom are the almond trees themselves. That's also why the beehives are rented and trucked in from out of state: for the 11 months of the year when the almonds aren't flowering there's nothing there for the bees to eat.
This adds a whole new meaning to “Bumblebee Tuna”
Ace was on to something!
BUMBLEBEE TUNA HE KNEW
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Im sorry, bumblebee what now 😃
Edit: i have no idea what bumblebee tuna is so my first thought was, "do they grind up bees and put them in cans of tuna?!" I am so sleep deprived
@@zerotheinsomniac3272 Bumblebee Tuna
The reason bumble bees are not generally used for commercial pollination is because their hives tend to only number in the dozens whereas honey bees can number in the 1000s to 10,000s, they also produce honey as they do it which can help to offset their cost of transportation and upkeep.
I don't think I can live without bumblebee butts. They're too cute and play a crucial part in the ecosystem. They need to be protected at all costs.
I actually have a little experience in this situation, and it's sad what most corporations are doing. I grew up on a smaller scale orchard. We had community honey bees, rent a bees, AND a bumblebee community thanks to our provincial help. They installed special hives to encourage native bees to start residing. It was a win win situation, since the later was an no cost to us. The biggest issue with the big time almond orchard among others would be the pesticides they use ... But that's a whole story of itself.
Here's a fun fact. The drone brood, (young male bees) are actually harvested for food in some cultures
Another note: I think the main reason honeybees are preferred for pollinating almonds is the sheer number of bees in a hive. I mean a queen honeybee can lay over a thousand eggs a day given the resources.
Also, the honey bees can subsist entirely off of just domesticated food crops, whereas different kinds of bees are specialized & may need other plants in their diet too, so you need to devote land to just feeding native bees instead of making money & cross contaminating with too many different kinds of bees after the same food sources increases the risk of disease in hives.
@whaaa t oh cool can he make a collab theory?
Id *love* to see what content a bot like you could make.
@@aDumbBoiAndHisCats don't talk to them, lest they infect you too
@@webberinternetpolice6431 Lest they insect you too*
Sorry, it was meant to bee
If MatPat becomes a lawyer we’re all screwed
2024: Breaking News, due to the overpopulation of bees, the state of California now classify bees as pigs. All lawsuits with contingencies that mention "when pigs fly" are now enforced. Haha
Law Theory when?
Honestly the laws kind of stupid to where you can classify a bee as a fish
I’m concerned this was on FOOD theory. You been eating bees MatPat?
You could probably convince me that goldfish crackers were secretly apples at this point 💀
"Well technically some flavors have 000000.1% apple juice there for technically making it part apple!" - Mattpat some day
dont give him ideas
Oh they hearted your comment…
@@moonlightatonzfam6707 oh no 😀
As a California resident, this is a hilarious piece of trivia that I’m definitely gonna tell people about 🤣
Addtl info, bees are considered fish, but honey is not considered a fishery product, bcuz fishery requires it be marine fish... Bcuz ofc they had alrdy know theyd have to exclude the land fish from fishery xD
This means, bee sushi yes; honey sushi no.
Well while you’re at it let them know women can’t become men and Vice versa
Honestly it would be really good to spread this info because I can imagine that many republicans will use fraze like "bees are fish in california" as a way to ridicule/attack democrats (or "left" in general). Similarly how many right wing people (especially far right) was ridiculing EU when they decided that legally snails are "inland fish" so farmers who farm snails could receive subsidies.
@@nieznajomy4398 the left has killed 200m people and should be outlawed.
@@UnknownName5050 literally no one asked. Can you think about other things than "left" or it lives rent free in your head?
The one thing that MatPat conveniently forgot to mention is that Honey Bees are naturally aggressive and drive Bumblebees away from their home because they're territorial as well.
yeah agreed i can’t recall any bee species used in mass production that can be cohabitated together
And, ya know, that they're an invasive species that we're just kinda tactically using without considering the consequences to ecosystems that are more than just food and materials for humans.
@@gogauze exactly wild bees still suffer in the end because territory is overtaken by a lot of farmed species
@@hereisthefullclip7666 I've spotted a bot!
Where'd you get that information from? I'm reading differently that Honey Bees aren't any more aggressive than other types of bees. That they are defensive and protect their home.
I start every one of matpat's videos by thinking: uhhhh matpat are you okay over there?
I end every video by thinking: huh that actually makes sense
At this point, you could convince me I can breathe underwater 💀
Well you can just not for very long
Well...since there is water in the air, and it is much better to inhale humid air than dry air, you technically are.
technically,
Alternatively you could accomplish breathing while submerged with the right tools.
Humans couldn't be able to breath under a surface of a body of water because they don't posses any natural mutations such as gills or inner laser machines splitting the O2 from the hydrogen.
Thank you for covering this! I understand it was a theory with MatPat written all over it but issues like these are all over the place and any sort of publicity is positive in bringing awareness! Thank you!!
I was reminded that it’s the holiday season and my immediate thought was “MatPat are you gonna try to eat your Christmas tree again?”
Hope he does, we're all too invested in this little tradition.
No this time I think he is going to try to work on the ornaments.
2:52 Editors got to the joke before us lmao.
My sister, who loves bees, once tried to feed bees and ended up putting out a bowl of water. One bee went in the water and my sister just held it on her finger until its wings dried off.
She was suffocating a fish
That is adorable.
So cute. Protect her at all costs.
@@annaplaysandsings and the sister.
Theres allot of bees at the house i grew up, but theres also a pool. Id always try to rescue any bees that fell in, watch em dry themselves off. Then theyd fly around me for a bit before flying off. Maybe im just attaching human traits to em, but i do like to think theyre thankful for it.
If my friend ever asks for fish I’m going to order some bees and watch her confusion deepen. 😂
Remember, it only counts if you're in California. I don't know if you are, but if you aren't keep that in mind.
better yet, if they ask for seafood just grab them the honey that seems to be a house-hold staple. far easier to accomplish and equally confusing
I mean, technically all tetrpods are fish so you could give them chicken or beef and "fish" would still be correct
2 horrible facts about rent a bees is that bees appear to react badly to having their hives moved a lot like regularly brokered bees which contributes to colony collapse disorder. And second it is more cost effective in many cases to buy a hive outright at the end of the season and then not winterize it allowing the whole colony to starve and or freeze to death.
11:52
“Encourage honey bees to work harder” is so hilarious though like
“Oh beethany look! Bumble bees are working here too, come on work harder we don’t want a bad reputation with them!”
MatPat: “BEES ARE NOW FISH”
The viewers: “welp, I don’t make the rules.”
Kinda true
We just follow them
*MapPat*
@@Blue_Boy_Official lol my b
i cant beileve a bee is a fish but a whale isn't.
You telling me im allergic to a fish?
*No pool or beach will see me in/on them again.*
This video gives me immense "Is mayonnaise an instrument?" Vibes
Welp now he's probably going to convince me that my stuffed animals actually have animals inside them
Cotton kinda counts
Cotton is actually a plant. However, wool would count, as would silk, technically
Zefrank1 has a video you might be interested in, "Teddy has an operation". Tells you everything you ever needed to know about the insides of stuffed animals.
@@taylorpack1120 I know that cotton is a plant
Game theory: “No, but your stuffed animals do have dead children inside of them”
11:30 You can claim bees are Fish and I won't bat an eyelash, but Dolphins aren't fish, they're mammals my friend.
At my school we had a kind of hackathon called a "makeathon", in which we tried finding and making solutions for problems in a specific field.
The first theme was agriculture, and one of the problems was pollinating almond trees.
Apparently bees don't like the taste of almond nectar because it's (this maybe has to do with the cyanide in almonds). Well we couldn't find a solution for that😅.
Splice a similar color orchard flower interspersed randomly so they will hunt both without realizing
Still waiting for the “Is Ketchup a Jam?” food theory
Ketchup preserves
No. Ketchup is a sauce using vinegar to preserve and enhance the flavour of someone else. For years, mushroom ketchup was the standard form of ketchup. Even more mind altering. Mustard is ketchup.
Ketchup is a smoothie
@@drewe2331 "Fruit preserves are preparations of fruits whose main preserving agent is sugar and sometimes acid, often stored in glass jars and used as a condiment or spread."
Ketchup, in USA, is mainly preserved using sugar and vinegar (an acid) and is often stored in glass jars and is used as a condiment.
Ketchup, as we commonly know ketchup to be, is a tomato preserve
@@drewe2331 Also, more on older ketchups... mushroom ketchup wasnt even the first ketchup either but was europeans attempts at mimickin a fermented fish ketchup from China. And that fermented fish ketchup, tho likelt independently created, was quite sinilar, with only a few local changes, to garum, an ancient roman fish sauce that they prty much used as we use ketchup today.
and even beyond rome and china, and before them even, ketchup, or somethin akin to it, was aten by many folk and still is to those day in many other variations elsewhere. Most of which trace back eventually to fermented fish sauces.
Which if anythin means we shud just make worcestershire sauce a little thicker and call it ketchup so its easier to say :P
1:22 the greatest defense ever displayed in a courtroom.
“Bees come in all different shapes, sizes, and flavors.”
-MatPat 2022
This and the water video has convinced me that mat is officially descending into insanity.
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I wanted to like the comment but it's at 123 likes and I don't want to mess that up :(
"A bee is a fish"
*Ah yes. A cat is a crocodile*
I remember talking about this case in my Environmental Legislation class. A lot of the environmental laws we see today and are able to be so strict (comparably to the rest of the world excluding the EU) are due to these loopholes. If the US Constitution is any way "vague" environmental lawyers will fight tooth and nail to take advantage and get more laws in place for the environment. Its very interesting and sometimes amusing to see what these lawyers or the lobbyist counterpart are willing to do to achieve their goal. Nice video Matpat!
“Since man first put a floppy tube of meat between two buns”
-MatPat
That first Bee-Roll sushi joke really flew over my head
This almost went over my head 😭
0:28 I see what you did there
Don’t you mean 0:30
@@nutsi3 oh lol thx, it's the exact line
@@AbdellatifMohamed no problem
The thing about companies working alongside the protected bee species is that the problem lies in how the policy works. If the protected bees move into the area and begin pollinating, the companies lose the ability to use the fields. As Matpat said, California law states that you cannot use the land the threatened species is using. If they could work with the bees, it would be great, but the specific execution of the law means that the companies have to choose between making huge expenses on renting bees or not being able to produce almonds at all.
So the reasonable solution is to make a seperate law for insects, but I'm guessing people rarely want compromise. Ironically, it's probably not the big companies fault. Well those ones at least.
Edit: I'm also sure the almond companies are innocent, but this doesn't seem to directly be their fault.
I was about to mention this. I live in California and this law can be extremely harmful for a lot of people in and out of state. It's not only companies but also small farmers or land owners. If the protected bees move into any farm that produces something for the rest of the country, the rest of the country won't be getting it or will have to pay so much more for it. With smaller farmers or landowners, they lose everything. I wish their was a better solution but the government, big companies, and environmentalists refuse to compromise. We need the food from the farmers but we also need these bees so if they can make a compromise it can give us both. Sorry my thoughts are scattered so this replay is a bit scattered.
food theory is my favourite theorist channel and has been for a while
I worked for a small produce company that planted watermelons. After we would plant the watermelon and they were so much far along, we would have to carry bees to the middle of the fields so they could pollinate. Luckily the boxes weren't too heavy but I was always scared they would attack me after opening their box 😂😂
I'd be way too scared to do that
As a fish keeper I knew of this phenomenon but it was very intriguing to hear Matpats well put together theory!
Them owning the rent a bee service is part of the point, if bees start being treated as endangered and actually get protects then they will repopulate and then farmers would no longer need the bee services, they also want control of that resource
I consider fish to be meat because they have muscle on bone. It isn't legally classified as meat because it lives in the water. Cows have meat because they are on land. Edit: Speaking of bees, a lot of people where I am from are allergic to bees, and the bees usually were squashed when spotted indoors. As many, many years have passed, the bees are a lot smaller in size. It is amazing how natural selection works.
I don't think that's natural selection from your squashing, that's selection from insect populations collapsing due to man made factors
To be fair, it's possible that there is simply not enough of the endangered bumblebee species to pollinate all the almond fields, but bringing in the honeybees might drastically reduce the honey supply for those bumblebees which could be restricted due to CESA
Fun little story about almond joys, they were one of the few candies I liked that didn't contain wheat so they were kind of my go to when I was first diagnosed with celiac's. I don't eat as many sweets now, but they'll have a place in my heart just for that. You'd be surprised how many candy brands contains wheat.
For anyone seeing this later, this is in reference to a small tidbit at around the 4 1/2 minute mark
I have celiac!! I can 100% agree with you almond joy is one of my favorite gluten-free candies :)
So your saying if I rip out someone’s backbone they become a fish
With a butterfly being considered a fish we are now 1 step closer to being able to experience Spongebob's favorite hobby, jellyfishing. W
I'm just thinking this theroy came to light because Mat had a bee swim in his soda at a cookout
I actually know the reason why the almond bee relationship is the way it is.
Almond flower nectar and pollen has very low nutritional value and the honey bees have actually starved out while pollinating before because they didn't have enough stored in their hives to make up the deficit.
Most likely they were worried they'd be ordered to replace a portion of their almonds with something else that is more nutritious to the nectar eaters.
oooo that is fascinating, I guess MatPat has gotten used to leaving out information against his ideas from the game theorist channel hehehe
Lawyer here. You're correct that this shows that bees can be classified as fish because they did not indicate in the enumeration in the definition of "fish" that such enumeration applies the ejusdem generis rule.
However, this does not necessarily mean that laws on fish and fishery will apply to bees. There is also a rule of statutory/legal construction that generic laws (e.g. laws that apply generally to all fish) shall yield to specific laws (e.g. laws that apply to a specific type of fish).
Gotta be honest, I always wanted a pet bumblebee. They look so cute
@@hereisthefullclip7666 They finally realised that nobody cares
6:06 Anything without a backbone? I can't believe politicians are fish
Noice
I was personally attacked by that almond joy joke
it is hilarious to see Mat Pat discovering some of the funny laws
0:58 Turn on subtitles for this part
Hehehhehe
"hey Barry, help me out here, a school of fish made its way into my house"
"this is a bee removal company, and you live 120 km from the ocean"
"yeah, ik, a swarm of fish are making honey in my floorboards"
Great video Mat, loved the part where you decided for sure whether bees are actually fish
Screw you reply bots, I’m here before you
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I have learnd more from mp then i ever did at school, probs because this is fun so im not gonna sepress the memory im so glad the mp and the theorists team exsist so that i will qctually learn something
I’m allergic to Almonds,
so down with the Almonds!
12:33 That’s actually a really cute image!
Skill issue, get better at handling almonds😎
At this point i’m expecting a theory on how every meal can be categorized into ravioli, soup, salad, and sandwich
Not sure if this counts as a food theory, but I would love to see your take on the true "right way" to load the dishwasher
I already know what the origin of this video is, but I have reason to expect that Mat Pat will present it in an entertaining way while probably saying stuff I didn't yet know about it.
8:50 You can call it Jellyfishing now.
This is un-bee-lievable
13:07 YOU COULD HAVE SAID NO FISHY BUSINESS
Lol
nobody gonna talk about the "a piece of floppy meat between 2 buns" part?
I’m still sitting here confused on how it went from people arguing about a fish being a bee and then it just switched to different types of bees pollinating better or worse than other bees
4:22
Matpat saying almond prices will rise brings me not fear, but joy as someone allergic to almonds, I don’t have this weakness, let the corporations burn!
I love that every time the law gets involved in a RUclips video outside of LegalEagle or Lockpicking Lawyer, everyone starts bringing out the Ace Attorney references. I hope that never changes.
9:30 you can also lease bee hives on someone else's land so they can receive property tax cuts because having bees on your property counts as agriculture.
This takes that brand Bumblebee tuna to another level.
Link to the Clip : - They finally released this
ruclips.net/video/2EXjRrTzTgQ/видео.html !!
Yep.